BSG Season 2

[sachmo71]

The premier is July 15th of Battlestar Galactica season 2 on sci-fi.
If anyone has seen the trailer for this, let me know how it was!

[sachmo71]

Dola:

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/

[Fonzie]

I'll be tuning in.

Not that any of you heartless bastards care. :(

[Kodos]

Looking forward to season 2. Somehow I keep missing the early episodes from season 1. :(

[Pumpy Tudors]

Admittedly, I don't watch a lot of television, but they're making trailers for TV series now?

[Draft Dodger]

oh, bummer - I'm going to be washing my hair that night

[Fonzie]

oh, bummer - I'm going to be washing my hair that night
Which one?

[larrymcg421]

That was a heck of a finale last season. I'll definitely be there.

[Draft Dodger]

Which one?

my back hair

[SFL Cat]

Don't care for it. I like the original series better.

[KWhit]

I really like the show. I'll be there fo sho.

[TazFTW]

bump

Season 2 starts tonight!

[ice4277]

Anybody know when the first season will be out on DVD?

[TazFTW]

7/26

[G-Man]

I was amazed at how wonderful and exciting this show has become. I missed the mini series 2 years ago, though I purchased it this year. The season finale' was incredible! I am very excited for tonight's season 2 premier!

Last week The SciFi channel ran marathons for BG, SG1 and SG-Atlantis. I taped all of the BG shows and watched SG-Atlantis (most of them) on Friday. I watched the Stargate movie but only caught a couple of the shows. However with the end of ST-Enterprise I began watching SG-Atlantis and then SG-1. I really enjoy all three Friday Night SciFi shows with BG being the best!

I also watched the original Battlestar Galactica and I did enjoy it, though not as much as Star Trek. However the new BG is miles better than the old one (and the newer Trek shows like Enterprise)!

Enjoy!! :D

[TazFTW]

I like both Stargate series also. Although I believe SG-1 went down when they first killed Daniel Jackson and replaced him with Parker Lewis. Now they're replacing Jack O'neill and he was my favorite character (although they have been slowly phasing him out).

Not sure if I'll continue to watch it without Richard Dean Anderson but maybe Ben Browder can be an effective replacement.

[ice4277]

7/26
thanks

[TazFTW]

thanks
Just to add a little more info. The version being released on 7/26 is a Best Buy exclusive and it is the UK version (the UK version has a different opening theme, the eps are still the same). I don't believe there has been any word on the US version being released.

[RendeR]

Don't care for it. I like the original series better.


{Insert hysterical laughter here}


Please remind me of this statement ANY time that opinions on entertainment are being posted by you in the future ;)

[ice4277]

Just to add a little more info. The version being released on 7/26 is a Best Buy exclusive and it is the UK version (the UK version has a different opening theme, the eps are still the same). I don't believe there has been any word on the US version being released.
Ah, that may explain why I have had no luck looking for a release date online. I'll still probably pick that version up as long as the eps are the same.

[kcchief19]

Just to add a little more info. The version being released on 7/26 is a Best Buy exclusive and it is the UK version (the UK version has a different opening theme, the eps are still the same). I don't believe there has been any word on the US version being released. Not official, but a few places list Sept. 20 as the official release date. The Best Buy exclusive is a new deal -- they are starting to make deals to get exclusive rights for a few weeks before distribution is everywhere. I think it's risky -- the Best Buy exclusive may discourage some other retailers from giving the DVD much promotion and shelf space.

The conjecture is that the Best Buy release will be identical to the later U.S. release. The Best Buy DVDs are indeed based on the UK aired-version, which are slightly longer and have a different opening. The DVD is the same as the UK version, although it is formatted for Region 1.

[kcchief19]

I'm very optimistic for the second season. The plot arc of the first season culminated in the season finale very well. You had to wait long and hard for some payoffs in plot, and when they delivered they delivered.

Basedon what I've seen and read, it sounds like the unraveling of the incidences from the finale will take a few episodes.

Kudos to Ron Moore et al. for creating a show that is so different from the original while still paying homage to the original that it's like a different show. I'm not usually big on TV shows that try to be highfalutin in regards to imagery and symbolism, but this show has done such a nice job of turning conventional wisdom upside down that it makes it more entertaining than normal, IMHO.

[amdaily]

I like both Stargate series also. Although I believe SG-1 went down when they first killed Daniel Jackson and replaced him with Parker Lewis. Now they're replacing Jack O'neill and he was my favorite character (although they have been slowly phasing him out).

Not sure if I'll continue to watch it without Richard Dean Anderson but maybe Ben Browder can be an effective replacement.
It is well past time Anderson leave. Since he began talking about it 3 or 4 years ago, his acting has gone downhill tremendously (and it wasn't helped by the awful writing for his character). I'm no fan of Browder, but I'll take my chances at this point.

[TazFTW]

SG-1 was meh. Atlantis was pretty good and Battlestar Galactica was great.

[G-Man]

Tonight's episodes were:

(1) SG1 was funny and semi interesting, yet enjoyable
(2) SG-Atlantis was well done, exciting with a good ending
(3) BSG was outstanding!! This show just get's better and better with each episode!!!

So if I had to rate them on a 5 star basis:
BSG - 4.5 stars
SG Atlantis 3.5 stars
SG1 - 2.75 stars

A very enjoyable SciFi Friday night after a lovely dinner out with my wife:)

[PraetorianX]

SG-1 premier seemed to be more about introducing the new characters and such, from the spoilers I've read it looks to get much better as the year goes on. I sort of expect the first episode or two to not be super great because of the new characters.

Atlantis looked good, the Daedelus looked quite nice, and it's always great to have an Asgard around. I'll be looking forward to meeting this Ronon Dex character, he looked interesting from the Inside SciFi Friday sneak peak.

And Galactica was, once again, awesome. The season ahead looks like it may even be better than last year, which is really something.

[RendeR]

I have to say, The folks who put BSG together have gone above and beyond, if they can keep this level of writing up they will have the single best sci-fi TV series ever produced.


This is definitely one I will own one day from start to finish.

[Coffee Warlord]

It is well past time Anderson leave. Since he began talking about it 3 or 4 years ago, his acting has gone downhill tremendously (and it wasn't helped by the awful writing for his character). I'm no fan of Browder, but I'll take my chances at this point.

Browder really came into his own in later seasons of Farscape, in my mind. This first episode wasn't much to talk about, but I think he'll mesh very well.

[Fonzie]

Count me amongst the hordes of FOFCers who loved the season premiere of BSG. Damned impressive show.

[sachmo71]

I have to say, The folks who put BSG together have gone above and beyond, if they can keep this level of writing up they will have the single best sci-fi TV series ever produced.


This is definitely one I will own one day from start to finish.


And the best part is that it will END. :)

I really enjoyed the premier, but I'm interested to see how Kobol plays out.

[Bonegavel]

I've was hooked on the new BSG from the first hour of the original airing of the mini-series. I believe that all the nay-sayers have been proven wrong, especially in areas such as Starbuck being a female.

This show almost makes up for Firefly being canceled (which you will all get a chance to watch soon if you don't have the DVDs).

Everything about the new BSG is top-notch. Also, unlike SG1, the well-established characters don't bring their baggage to the show. IE, to this day everytime I see R.D. Anderson, I immediately think MacGyver (sp?) and I've been watching since the show switched to sci-fi.

Eddie "miami vice" Olmos and Stands with Fist don't seem to do that for me. Maybe its just that MacGyver was so horrible, but who knows.

The premiere of SG1 and Atlantis seemed, to me, like they were "phoning it in." Ben Browder is one of my favorite actors (he, alone, turned Farscape into one of my favorite shows of all time) but it all seemed so forced.

Atlantis is so disappointing to me because it is only the begining of the second season and it is in a rut already. How many god-damned times are they going to work on getting the Zed PM's to power the shields? How many shitting times must they fight of Hive ships. How many times must Sheppard run suicide missions? Don't get me wrong, I think Sheppard is a great character, I just think they are missing the mark somehow.

Oh, and check out the next episode "Intruder" --- a virus infects the Daedalus' computers. Wow! This hasn't been done before!

I think they would've done themselves a favor by using the entire first season building up the wraith threat by not showing them to us. Just as in JAWS, it was more freigtening to just see the dorsal fin of the shark than to actually see the shark.

I think the Stargate franchise has unlimited possibilities, but they keep rehashing the same stuff over and over. If I see another replicator episode I will break my t.v.

Anywho, I'm glad that BSG is so good because the SG's have been so disappointing lately.

[TazFTW]

Just to add a little more info. The version being released on 7/26 is a Best Buy exclusive and it is the UK version (the UK version has a different opening theme, the eps are still the same). I don't believe there has been any word on the US version being released.
New word on the US version.

Next, we finally have official word from Universal on the DVD release of Battlestar Galactica: Season One. As many of you know, the 4-disc U.K. DVD release of the complete first season (all 13 episodes) has been reformatted for NTSC and will be available exclusively at Best Buy stores next Tuesday (7/26 - SRP $49.99). Video is anamorphic widescreen with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, and extras on the U.K./Best Buy release include 50 minutes of deleted scenes.

BUT... if you can wait a couple of months... the OFFICIAL U.S. release of Battlestar Galactica: Season One will be widely available from Universal on 9/20 (SRP $59.98) and the 5-disc set promises to be well worth the wait. Not only will you get all 13 hour-long episodes in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, and the 50 minutes of deleted scenes, you'll get a lot more as well. Disc One will include the complete 4-hour TV miniseries with the previously released audio commentary with director Michael Rymer and executive producers David Eick and Ron Moore. Discs 2-5 will feature many additional episodes with optional audio commentary (by various combinations of Rymer, Eick and Moore) including the Pilot, Bastille Day, Act of Contrition, You Can't Go Home Again, Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down, The Hand of God, Colonial Day, Kobol's Last Gleaming: Part 1 and Kobol's Last Gleaming: Part 2 (we believe these include all of the podcast commentaries that have been available on SciFi.com (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/)). Disc 5 will also include a behind-the-scenes featurette, the aforementioned deleted scenes, a gallery of production sketches and artwork, a Battlestar Galactica Series Lowdown featurette and 1 of 3 collectible trading cards. The cover artwork will be different that the U.K./Best Buy art (which we've shown previously here (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa106.html#xf3)) - you'll find the new art below. So now at least we know why there's been a delay. The U.S. release will feature MUCH more bonus material than the U.K./Best Buy edition.

[ice4277]

Taz,

Thanks for the new info. Looks like I will wait for September.

[sachmo71]

Wow, including the mini-series. Well worth the wait and the extra $10.

[kcchief19]

More complete info from TVShowsOnDVD.com...
We've reported (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=3632) about the Battlestar Galactica (2004) DVD situation, and how next Tuesday there will be a Best Buy exclusive release (http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=30991737&siteid=41479969&bfpid=7286778&bfmtype=1&CategoryID=cat02550&id=1458393&skuId=7286778&type=product) of the "U.K. version" of the show (mainly featuring a different sequence for the opening credits). Best Buy's 4-disc exclusive set (currently selling at $48.95) runs through September, and then Universal will bring the show out on DVD for other retailers.

http://www.mcnally95.com/graphics/news8/BStarGal04_S1_thumb.jpgUniversal has announced their "all retailers" release this morning, and as you can see on the left, the cover is noticably different than the box which Best Buy has been depicting. The release is set for September 20th, and the SRP is $59.98 (which means you'll be able to purchase it anywhere from $40 to $55, after retail discounts are applied). The running time is 757 minutes for a 5-DVD package (one more than the Best Buy set), including the 2003 mini-series on the first disc, and there are many extras. Here's a list of them, copied from Universal's release information:




Commentary Tracks:

Feature Commentary on "The Mini-Series" with Director Michael Rymer and Executive Producers David Eick and Ron Moore
"Pilot" Commentary with Director Michael Rymer and Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore
"Bastille Day" Episode Commentary with Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore
"Act of Contrition" Episode Commentary with Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore
"You Can't Go Home Again" Episode Commentary with Executive Producers David Eick and Ronald D. Moore
"Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore
"The Hand of God" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore
"Colonial Day" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore
"Kobol's Last Gleaming: Part 1" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore
"Kobol's Last Gleaming: Part 2" Episode Commentary with Executive Producer Ronald D. Moore

Behind the Scenes
Deleted Scenes
Battlestar Galactica Series Lowdown
Sketches and Art

An added bonus item listed is "1 of 3 Collectible DVD Exclusive Trading Cards"; we're not sure yet what these are trading cards of, or how someone would obtain the other two cards in the set. We'll look into it, and let you know what we find out. Video is shown as " Anamorphic Widescreen (1.78:1)", and sound is shown to be "English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround". English and Spanish subtitles are on board as well. Here are 4 shots of the menus for the set:



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http://www.mcnally95.com/graphics/news8/BSG_Menu3.jpg

http://www.mcnally95.com/graphics/news8/BSG_Menu4.jpg

</center> This makes the Best Buy set look like a complete ripoff. More bonus materials, an extra disc and the miniseries -- plus the Best Buy set will end up being more expensive. The Best Buy set will sell at $49, while the later release will MSRP at $60, which will be discounted below the Best Buy set at most retailers.

I'm somewhat disappointed it's including the miniseries since I already have the miniseries on DVD. But BSG DVDs now have a tradition of hosing fans in small ways. The original series DVD set featured the TV version of the pilot, but you had to buy the theatrical longer version with the alternate ending separately.

[Bad-example]

These people are supposedly 3000+ years removed from us here on earth, yet things from our world appear all too often. An automobile with a standard steering wheel and rectangular license plates...soldiers with dog tags...civilians wearing silk ties and clothes that look like they were bought at Macy's. Things like that just make it difficult to maintain my suspension of disbelief.

Still, I am watching and enjoying the show. I would be happier if they improved the look of the show and reduced the mystic/religious bullshit elements in the story.

[Eaglesfan27]

I've been avoiding this thread until i caught up with my TIVO of this. I forgot to watch last season, but caught most of season 1 during this summer. I can't wait to get the DVD of season 1 at the end of the summer. I have watched all but 1 of the season 1 episodes, and the first 2 episodes of season two now (just finished watching the 2nd episode from last night.) This could become my favorite show on TV right now. I'm amazed at how good some of the episodes have been :)

[Wolfpack]

I can understand to some extent why they chose to represent the humans in the series as they do. The creator is basically making an assumption that human civilizations, regardless of where, develop in generally similar fashion. Where this civilization differs from our own is in spacefaring abilities. However, I do admit that Hummer annoyed me. Even if the bugger is somehow a classic Hummer, the chances that a different civilization would conceive of the exact same vehicle as we have have got to be off-the-charts remote, especially as this civilization has such advanced spacefaring (and thus, people moving) technology. Clothes I can buy. Unless you're going for total space-y apperances (which was in the original series), there isn't a whole lot you can do to clothes to make them "more advanced" than they already are. But, the Hummer was a bit much.

[TazFTW]

w00t! Adama's back!

I just knew that there was going to be a Jack Ruby in that crowd.

[Glengoyne]

I'm enjoying the BSG season. I keep forgetting to tune into SG-1 to see Browder.

As for the BSG stuff being the best ever, especially writing. Well I won't go anywhere near that far. Most of the main characters are paper thin, and really aren't getting much deeper. If you think this writing is great, you should go plunk down $40 on the single season of Firefly. Now there is a series with some, imo, writing acclaim.

[amdaily]

If you think this writing is great, you should go plunk down $40 on the single season of Firefly. Now there is a series with some, imo, writing acclaim.
I don't see why people like that show at all. Been watching it since Sci-Fi has been replaying it, and after 3 episodes it is quite horrible. Bad casting, bad writing, worse plot. And the trailer for the movie looks to be the worst of it all.

[Kodos]

Why is the season already almost over? Do they only do a half season at a time?

[sachmo71]

Why is the season already almost over? Do they only do a half season at a time?


I guess it's been about 12 episodes...perhaps 8. not sure why.

[TazFTW]

It's half a season. Same for SG-1 and Stargate: Atlantis. All 3 will return in January.

[Wolfpack]

I'm guessing they're protecting the properties a little by not having them go up against new programming on the major networks during the fall season.

[amdaily]

Is there any doubt this is the best show on TV http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif Can't wait till January.

[RendeR]

I'm enjoying the BSG season. I keep forgetting to tune into SG-1 to see Browder.

As for the BSG stuff being the best ever, especially writing. Well I won't go anywhere near that far. Most of the main characters are paper thin, and really aren't getting much deeper. If you think this writing is great, you should go plunk down $40 on the single season of Firefly. Now there is a series with some, imo, writing acclaim.


See now this is something I don't get, the acting, writing and most of all the overall editing of firefly simply sucks. its awful. Comparing it to BSG is like trying to say the original star trek is more well done that the new BSG and its simply not so.

The new BSG isn't your everyday run o the mill sci fi soap opera. This show opens up every controversial subject we face and puts it out there naked on a platter and makes you think about it from differeing views.

Firefly? Oi. no Thank you. It actually reminds me of the 80's buck Rogers show, simplistic at best and downright campy at worst.

[RendeR]

I don't see why people like that show at all. Been watching it since Sci-Fi has been replaying it, and after 3 episodes it is quite horrible. Bad casting, bad writing, worse plot. And the trailer for the movie looks to be the worst of it all.


Heh, the only redeeming quality I've found in Firefly is that they inject some decent comedy into the show, unfortunately they still try to take themselves seriously even in doing that and its not a formula that works.

Its either a comedy or a drama, making it both works for TV sitcoms, not science fiction movies.

[TazFTW]

Hmmm, Commander Adama vs Ensign Ro...


Several interesting scenes in this ep.

[sachmo71]

Is there any doubt this is the best show on TV http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif Can't wait till January.


It's just not fair to end the season this way. Not fair at all. :(

[Coffee Warlord]

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

Adama is the MAN.

[sachmo71]

Season 2 picks up again on 1/6.

Salivate.

[Fonzie]

Hmmm, Commander Adama vs Ensign Ro...


Several interesting scenes in this ep.I completely missed this post the first time around - I thought there was something familiar about that actress!

[TazFTW]

She was also in the 2nd season of 24 to use a more current show.

[TazFTW]

Business is about to pick up



Loved the preview for next week's ep.

"Frak you"

[Raven Hawk]

Great episode, can't wait til next week.

[RendeR]

Am I incorrect or is this actually season 3? not just an extension of season 2?


SUPERIOR television show, god I love this series. best Science Fiction TV Series Ever.

[Raven Hawk]

I believe that it is season three because there was a commercial on during the show indicating that Season 2 was now on DVD.

[Eaglesfan27]

Season 2 is now on DVD? Excellent. Katrina screwed with my taping and watching of this show, and I haven't been watching because I want to watch it all in order.

[Raven Hawk]

The official word is that last nights episode was the beginning of the "Second Half of Season Two." However, the first half of Season Two is out on DVD, billed as Season 2.0.

[Galaril]

The korean actress Grace Park playing Boomer is fucking hot!

[Bonegavel]

they are doing what Stargate seems to have adopted... each season is broken into 2 parts.

Makes a bit of sense if you think of DVD sales. When the second half opens, you have the first half out for sale at a very reasonable price as opposed to the full season DVD price.

[sachmo71]

I wasn't all that impressed with the opener. Seems like everyone got serious dumb during the break.

[RendeR]

I wasn't all that impressed with the opener. Seems like everyone got serious dumb during the break.
try watching last season's ENDER right before the new seasons opener...I think the break in watching such a high tension episode kind of hurt the opener. You have to get that hair raising tension back to really get the opener well.

[kcchief19]

try watching last season's ENDER right before the new seasons opener...I think the break in watching such a high tension episode kind of hurt the opener. You have to get that hair raising tension back to really get the opener well.Could be that or just personal taste. I thought it was a terrific episode. I love the fact that they are making this characters so flawed. Adama's character has come so full circle. You see in Forbes what he could have become had he left the civilian fleet behind at the beginning like he wanted to until Roslyn convinced him not to.

I thought some parts were slow and contrived. The way information about what Cain did was a revealed bit awkwardly, but if fit with the first half season finale. I got the 2.0 set for Christmas and it really helped to setup this episode. This is easily one of my five favorite shows on TV.

The official word is that last nights episode was the beginning of the "Second Half of Season Two." However, the first half of Season Two is out on DVD, billed as Season 2.0. This is correct. To a certain degree, it really doesn't matter anymore the way they break up seasons. The drawback is that when they put out the DVDs, they get pricey -- a little over 30 bucks for 10 episodes if you shop around.

[G-Man]

Battlestar Galactica blows it away!!!

I have enjoyed this show since the miniseries in 2003! The writing is incredible and the acting almost matches it.
Amazing whatthey have done with the story started in the original series in the 70-80's era. I watched that show too and enjoyed it though it was nowhere near as good as Trek and not in the same Galaxy as this incarnation of BSG!

I enjoyed this weeks episode though I was surprised at Roslyn's attitude about killing Forbes character (Cain)! Not that she is wrong but when did she get so brutal and fatalistic? Could it be the cancer? I am really looking forward to next week's ep!!

I do hope that this show has a long run, 5-7 years would be nice... :D

Here are my top 5 shows on TV as of today:
1-24
2-BSG
3-Lost
4-ER
5-Tie between Commander and Chief and Stargate Atlantis :eek:

[sachmo71]

I left 24 behind a few seasons ago.

[G-Man]

I left 24 behind a few seasons ago.


Day 5 which starts this Sunday (2 hours) looks awesome. I am expecting great things form this season!! :D

[G-Man]

Another excellent episode tonight! This show just gets better and better each episode!!

Thoughts? Comments?

[TazFTW]

"Frak you"
"You're not my type"

Looks like Starbuck is pretty pissed at Admiral Adama, even though he didn't give her the order to kill Cain.

I was kinda hoping Apollo would have died. He really hasn't added anything to the series. They could replace him with muffet. :D


Not sure how next week's abortion/stem cell episode is going to pan out though.

[sachmo71]

I really enjoyed last night's episode...strong comeback.
I like Lee and would hate to see him die.

[Raven Hawk]

Lee Adama seems to be the physical representation of morality to the show. Think of him as the little angel on everybody's shoulder. True, he may be annoying, but he brings a lot to the table with his character. I think that BSG would lose a lot if they let Lee die.

I love the show and the questions of morality and humanity that they pose. Another excellent episode last night. I love the added dimension of having the Pegasus around and enjoyed the character of the Pegasus' XO. That character can add a lot to the show and I hope that he becomes a mainstay.

Excellent plot progression with Baltar. Can't wait til next week!

[TazFTW]

Interesting episode.

Rosalyn is now part cylon.

Rosalyn know Baltar was sleeping with a cylon.

Baltar knows Rosalyn doesn't trust him and so he gives the cylon sympathizers a nuke.

6 looks better with the pony tail and glasses.

[sachmo71]

I don't know if I like the way Rosalyn's fate was resolved. There's a hook there, for sure, but now what?

[Wolfpack]

Well, I guess it's a side effect of the show "surviving" as long as it has. It was just a mini-series. Then it became a series, now it's in year two. Obviously, they feel the Rosalyn character and McDonnell the actress needed to stay on and needed some way for her to survive. It does seem like one of those "miraculous" things to justify the continuance of a character, a la Bobby Ewing in the shower on Dallas.

At this point, the hook could be a re-introduction of awkwardness between Adama and Rosalyn because it was beginning to look like they were becoming an old couple in love when she was dying. Now that she's going to live, what will be the dynamic between them?

Do also remember that if the Colonial mythology is true, she still won't survive to see the fleet reach Earth. Which does bring another potential issue, that being is the prophecy true anymore? As long as she lives, the prophecy can't hold. Will there be a religious zealot who attempts to kill her to fulfill the prophecy?

[RendeR]

At this point, I love the factthat pegasus didn't just vanish as it did in the original series. I also like the ressurection of Roslyn, she is a major key in the flow of the series. The whole thing with #6 has me fearful though. They could really ruin the flow of the series with this whole "nuke" thing. Not a big fan of that plot twist.

I'm still wondering about Boomer's baby. They were right in this last episode, it poses an unmatched danger to the fleet. It has to be eliminated, but damn if the whole healing thing doesn't wrench that one....

Could they be aiming at some sort of melting pot solution at the end of the series?Humans/Cylons becoming one race and only then finally reaching earth?

Personally, I hope they never get there, it would ruin a perfectly good universe. :)

Best Sci-Fi TV show EVER.

[Fonzie]

At this point, I love the factthat pegasus didn't just vanish as it did in the original series. I also like the ressurection of Roslyn, she is a major key in the flow of the series. The whole thing with #6 has me fearful though. They could really ruin the flow of the series with this whole "nuke" thing. Not a big fan of that plot twist.

Add that all together and I think the writers have telegraphed how Pegasus goes bye-bye.

[Kodos]

One of the best series on TV. Probably in my top 3, along with Survivor and Lost.

[kcchief19]

I'm with Sachmo ... I'm not sure I like what they've done, but let's see where it goes. I was more annoyed that they gave away this "twist" in the previews -- you knew this was going to happen before the episode even started. The only real twist in this whole episode really revolved around the nuke and Roslyn's relationship with Baltar.

[Raven Hawk]

. . . and enjoyed the character of the Pegasus' XO. That character can add a lot to the show and I hope that he becomes a mainstay.

Excellent plot progression with Baltar. Can't wait til next week!
Heheh.

Another really well written episode. This episode brought some depth to Lee Adama's character.

Does anybody else have to stifle their laughter any time Lee Adama and Tom Zerek have a scene together? Or is it just me?

[Kodos]

I really enjoyed the Scar episode. I love the Viper battle scenes -- they are so cool. The being able to stop on a dime thing used to annoy me, but now I've accepted it and it is kinda cool. **Possible spoiler: It was interesting to learn the the Cylon fighter ships are like animals and that they get resurrected like the other Cylons.**

I do wish they'd stop doing episodes where they show the end first and then show you what lead to it. This is like 3 weeks in a row. Only trot that out once in a while, guys.

[Raven Hawk]

I do wish they'd stop doing episodes where they show the end first and then show you what lead to it. This is like 3 weeks in a row. Only trot that out once in a while, guys.
Agreed. That gets highly annoying when used successively. It looks like the last two episodes were more "character builder" episodes for Apollo and Starbuck than real plot progressions. I hope that this week we get back to some of the real plot progression.

[Fonzie]

It looks like the last two episodes were more "character builder" episodes for Apollo and Starbuck than real plot progressions. I hope that this week we get back to some of the real plot progression.

My thoughts exactly. Two character episodes in a row is enough - now get back to the main plot arc, please.

[Bee]

Agreed. I didn't care much for either of the last two episodes. I felt they were a drop off from the rest of the series and am hoping to see the main plot move forward again.

[sachmo71]

I would give Starbuck a good frack. I mean, since she's asking.

[kcchief19]

I can't believe what they just did.

[TazFTW]

Adama must mean gets shot in the chest.

Poor Billy.

[Raven Hawk]

Horrible plot twist.

[kcchief19]

I still can't beleive it. This has to be leading somewhere. Just the way the whole thing went down is painful.

I hope this episode has some sort of hidden meaning and there were clues I didn't pick up on. It just seemed horribly convenient that group of people was on board that ship at that particular moment, like it was a setup. Or just bad writing.

I still can't believe they did that. It makes me really dislike Duallaright now, and makes you dislike Lee just when you're starting to like him a bit. There has to be more to this, but I hate to speculate.

As much as I love this show, I do hate their level of medical care. Two characters have recovered within hours or days at the most from major gun shot wounds to the chest, despite knocking on heaven's door. Both the Adama's were at the end, then Doc Cottle shows up and everybody's dancing a jig. Starbuck apparently suffered a major knee injury, but was back up two episodes later like nothing had happened. I could live with the idea of their medical technology being on par with Star Trek if there wasn't such an amazing difference in the medical care available from everyone except Doc Cottle. And why couldn't they save Billy if they can save the Adamas?

[Wolfpack]

I still can't beleive it. This has to be leading somewhere. Just the way the whole thing went down is painful.

I hope this episode has some sort of hidden meaning and there were clues I didn't pick up on. It just seemed horribly convenient that group of people was on board that ship at that particular moment, like it was a setup. Or just bad writing.

I still can't believe they did that. It makes me really dislike Duallaright now, and makes you dislike Lee just when you're starting to like him a bit. There has to be more to this, but I hate to speculate.

As much as I love this show, I do hate their level of medical care. Two characters have recovered within hours or days at the most from major gun shot wounds to the chest, despite knocking on heaven's door. Both the Adama's were at the end, then Doc Cottle shows up and everybody's dancing a jig. Starbuck apparently suffered a major knee injury, but was back up two episodes later like nothing had happened. I could live with the idea of their medical technology being on par with Star Trek if there wasn't such an amazing difference in the medical care available from everyone except Doc Cottle. And why couldn't they save Billy if they can save the Adamas?

I'm guessing Billy died instantly when he was shot and there was no chance at revival (round through the heart, maybe). And yes, it was a bit of a shock to simply kill off a fairly major bit player in the story. Wonder how that went over in the script reading.

[Bee]

Probably went over fine since he'll be back when they discover he's a cylon. :D

[SFL Cat]

Probably went over fine since he'll be back when they discover he's a cylon. :D

Kinda my thought.

[SFL Cat]

dola -- episode also set up possibility of a Dualla-Starbuck catfight over Adama at some point in the future. Ordinarily, I'd say Starbuck wins hands-down, but Dualla's been working out a lot lately.

[Kodos]

I never saw Starbuck put the gun in the repairman's toolbox. Did I just miss it? Also, I thought she was just supposed to see what the situation inside was, and not to go commando on everyone. If she didn't have the gun, there wouldn't have been a shootout. She's a loose cannon!

[kcchief19]

Probably went over fine since he'll be back when they discover he's a cylon. :DThat was a plot line I didn't even want to consider. For some reason I liked Billy -- he was the one character you could always count on doing what was best for everyone and not necessarily himself. He wouldn't go off on with Rosalyn when she tried to head to Kobol and he pretty much blew any chance with Dulla by putting his professional committment way ahead of her. Everybody else has had vanity moments, but not Billy.

Then there is the cynic in me who hates to think that they offed Billy to let the rest of the cast know that no matter how good the ratings are, nobody is getting a raise.

[larrymcg421]

So this last episode was like Die Hard, except if John McClane was a moron.

[Bad-example]

Three stinky episodes in a row. They are really hammering us with the "Humans are flawed" message.

I think it is funny that they have almost killed off Apollo twice now. It is almost like they are teasing the folks that wish they would dump the little wuss. I think it would be funny if they made it a running bit where Lee nearly dies almost every episode, only to disappoint by surviving every time.

[Raven Hawk]

So this last episode was like Die Hard, except if John McClane was a moron.
Well played. :D

To Kodos' point, they have pretty much defined Starbuck as a loose cannon, so her going postal wasn't surprising. In fact I was expecting it. They don't show her putting the guns in the toolbox, but they don't show her changing into the maintenance uniform, either.

As for Lee Adama . . . he played his part pretty dumb. As a trained soldier, he should have known to neutralize the gunman that he took down. He had a count on the gunmen, why not reduce their strength by 25%?

It was kind of convenient for the terrorists to have one person that each of the Admiral, President and XO each cared about. Too convenient if you ask me. Tigh's wife was a useless addition to the scene. Sorry to see Billy go.

[Kodos]

So does everyone think that Tigh's wife is a cylon?

[larrymcg421]

So does everyone think that Tigh's wife is a cylon?

I don't. I think she's just a clueless ditz. However, I do think Gaeta is a cylon.

[Bee]

So does everyone think that Tigh's wife is a cylon?

I think that's a red herring. They've been foreshadowing that, but I'm not falling for it. :D


Of course, I'm probably completely wrong (like I might be about Billy).

[Bee]

I don't. I think she's just a clueless ditz. However, I do think Gaeta is a cylon.

Is Gaeta the young officer who's always on the bridge? If so, I agree.

[sachmo71]

Is Gaeta the young officer who's always on the bridge? If so, I agree.


The one whom I saw in this episode and thought, "Hey, didn't they used to feature Gaeta more on this show?"

[Fonzie]

Finally caught this episode on Tivo - and yes, the death of Billy came out of left field for me too. I do not see the point in eliminating his character, as there are plenty of other less sympathetic characters who offered less to the show (i.e., Gaeta, the "Chief," Tigh's wife, or even Dualla). Just weird.

And with regard to Starbuck's commando escapades, I recall that the terrorists were going to reinspect her toolbox after one of them caught Tigh's wife recognizing Starbuck. At that point her cover was blown, so she went to Plan B.

[Galaril]

I got a question? Wasn't that News Reporter back earlier in the year that was going to drop some big news story on the military a cylon?

[Raven Hawk]

I got a question? Wasn't that News Reporter back earlier in the year that was going to drop some big news story on the military a cylon?
Yes, Xena - Warrior Princess, is a cylon. There goes the galaxy.

So we have the following models defined:

1. Boomer Model
2. Hot Blonde Model
3. Kevin Spacey-esque Model
4. Funky Hair/Prisoner/Got the shit beat out of him by Starbuck Model
5. Xena Warrior Princess Model

Which leaves only two models left to discover.

They can't tip their hats too quickly, otherwise they lose the mystique of "so and so is probably a cylon."

[John Travolta]

I hope my agent gets me a spot on the Galactica. I could play one bad-ass Cylon.

[larrymcg421]

I hope my agent gets me a spot on the Galactica. I could play one bad-ass Cylon.

Sorry, but there are no fat Cylons.

[John Travolta]

All part of the disguise!

[larrymcg421]

Getting back to my earlier post, the reason I think Gaeta is a Cylon is because of the odd camerawork used right before Boomer shot Adama at the end of season 1. The camera clearly seemed to suggest Gaeta gave her something, possibly the gun in question.

[Fonzie]

Getting back to my earlier post, the reason I think Gaeta is a Cylon is because of the odd camerawork used right before Boomer shot Adama at the end of season 1. The camera clearly seemed to suggest Gaeta gave her something, possibly the gun in question.

But hasn't it been established that pilots in full flight gear carry a sidearm? I remember that Gaeta/Sharon shot as seeming weird as well, but I'm not so sure that they'd have needed to risk being seen handing off a weapon in that instance. She probably had one on her and nobody questioned it because she was still in her flight gear.

[larrymcg421]

But hasn't it been established that pilots in full flight gear carry a sidearm? I remember that Gaeta/Sharon shot as seeming weird as well, but I'm not so sure that they'd have needed to risk being seen handing off a weapon in that instance. She probably had one on her and nobody questioned it because she was still in her flight gear.

That's a good point, but maybe he did something to nudge her along. The fact that Gaeta has been in the background all season leads me to believe the producers might be keeping his profile low in order to spring a big surprise on us.

[Kodos]

I think they do wear a gun with their flight gear, so that's why nobody questioned why she had one.

[Wolfpack]

Yes, Xena - Warrior Princess, is a cylon. There goes the galaxy.

So we have the following models defined:

1. Boomer Model
2. Hot Blonde Model
3. Kevin Spacey-esque Model
4. Funky Hair/Prisoner/Got the shit beat out of him by Starbuck Model
5. Xena Warrior Princess Model

Which leaves only two models left to discover.

They can't tip their hats too quickly, otherwise they lose the mystique of "so and so is probably a cylon."

Actually, there's seven left. There's supposed to be 12 models.

[Raven Hawk]

Actually, there's seven left. There's supposed to be 12 models.
Damn! They're on to me! How can I keep my cylon identity secret now? Wolfpack must be silenced! :D

[TazFTW]

Poor Apollo. :( Considering what has happened to the previous three Pegasus commanders, he be fucked.

It'll be interesting to see how the election goes. I would think Rosalyn would use her knowledge of Baltar and 6 to try to convince some to her side.

[Fonzie]

I really thought that the Pegasus was going to go bye-bye last night. Apollo and Starbuck would be rescued by a Raptor and jump back to Galactica, or something along those lines.

Two promotions for Apollo in a month? Nepotism at its best, baby!

Oh, and the more I think about what happened to Billy, the more I wonder if it wasn't a case of the writers trying to write an unhappy actor out of the show (ala Denise Crosby's Tasha Yar in STNG). I don't know anything about the actors on the show, but Billy hadn't been getting much screen time this season. Everything about the abrupt elimination of him makes me say "huh?" from a storyline perspective, so I wonder if something more real-world was at play.

[Bad-example]

The guy that plays Apollo is a better actor than I gave him credit for. He actually looked like he was enjoying spending time with a naked woman in the opening scene!

[kcchief19]

Why does such a good show tempt fate with such stupid decisions. When I saw John Heard show up, I thought, "Cool -- John Heard's joining the cast." Should have known that after they killed off Michelle Forbes in such a hurry that he was just a one-shot guest too. They love to kill off people on this show.

Given the show's earlier penchant for having storylines taking part in separate locations and the generally faithful homages to the original plotline, I see the Pegasus going off its own for a few episodes. Just when Apollo and Adama appear to be on the same page, Apollo goes off on his own and does something stupid. His little speech to Starbuck seems to be establishing that his character is done with that, but I just have a feeling it will happen again. If not, then clearly the Pegasus is ripe for a mutiny, since nobody on that ship trusts Galactica.

But the abortion subplot was atrocious. Great -- the election is shaping up as a battle with Baltar and Roslyn over a women's right to choose. Excellent. Are they trying to replace The West Wing? I realize they will drop the abortion subplot and paint the race as Roslyn curtailing freedom and Baltar being the champion of freedom, but I just hated the way they did that.

[kcchief19]

Yes, Xena - Warrior Princess, is a cylon. There goes the galaxy.

So we have the following models defined:

1. Boomer Model
2. Hot Blonde Model
3. Kevin Spacey-esque Model
4. Funky Hair/Prisoner/Got the shit beat out of him by Starbuck Model
5. Xena Warrior Princess Model

Which leaves only two models left to discover.

They can't tip their hats too quickly, otherwise they lose the mystique of "so and so is probably a cylon."OK, now you've got me going.

We also know a sixth model -- the self-proclaimed smuggler who Roslin ordered thrown out the airlock who claimed Adama was a Cylon -- unless that's who you are describing with No. 4. I initially assumed you were reference the Simon model on Caprica who was the "doctor" that Starbuck killed. Either way, there are six models left to be identified.

One of the Boomer models told Baltar that there are eight Cylons in the fleet. She told him this before Pegasus showed up, so I don't think we can count the No. 6 model (Gina) that was a prisoner on Pegasus that Baltar helped escape.

I am assuming that Boomer is including herself. The Shelley version of No. 6 that showed up on Galactica just disappeared, didn't she? So she's still there. We also know about the Xena model. In theory, there are three Cylons we know about in the fleet plus Gina which leaves five unknown Cylons in the fleet.

Therefore, there are six unknown Cylon models and five unknown agents in the fleet. We don't know about Pegasus. There could be additional unknown agents on Pegasus.

I think Tigh's wife is everyone's favorite choices for a Cylon. Gaeta is attracting attention. I'm sure Billy is a suspect now too. I don't know if we can completely dismiss Baltar as a human dupe or a sleeper agent like the Galactica Boomer, who didn't really know she was a Cylon.

In the miniseries, it was established that the human cylons were two years old -- that could in theory clear Ellen Tigh (married to Saul for longer than that) and Gaeta (served on Galactica for longer than that. I think they said Gaeta had been on Galactica for three years, so that's borderline.

Oh, I have wasted my life.

[Raven Hawk]

We also know a sixth model -- the self-proclaimed smuggler who Roslin ordered thrown out the airlock who claimed Adama was a Cylon -- unless that's who you are describing with No. 4. I initially assumed you were reference the Simon model on Caprica who was the "doctor" that Starbuck killed. Either way, there are six models left to be identified.

I forgot about the doctor model on Caprica. The Simon model was what I was referring to in #4.

[Kodos]

I've still never seen the miniseries or early episodes from season 1. I have the DVDs, just haven't had time to watch them yet. Maybe I should do that soon. ;)

[Bee]

My guess is the suitcase nuke ends up taking out Pegasus with a season ending cliffhanger with Cmdr Adama's survival in question.

[Wolfpack]

I've been rolling around a marble in my mind that now that the young Adama is a commander, we may be looking at a torch-passing from the older Adama. I have no idea how much longer Olmos or McDonnell may stay on. They are rather big fish for the SciFi pond to keep and the series has lasted a lot longer than anyone expected. So, I'm beginning to think now that there is a new Commander Adama, just like the old series, that both Olmos and McDonnell may be exiting soon (in a series of unfortunate events, if you will). Baltar ascending to the presidency and Apollo moving up to fleet command (maybe after Tigh tries again or because Tigh failed last time) would create some ticklish things because it would mean the military would have to keep the civilian leadership in check from doing something stupid, but risk alienation of the civilian populace who would perceive a threatening of a military dictatorship.

Like I said, it's just a marble rolling around. I'd be startled if I guessed right, really. I'm more often wrong than right in my prognostications.

[sachmo71]

Not sure if I would say that Olmos and McDonnell are too big for Sci-Fi. It's a hit show, for now. As long as they get paid, I doubt they are looking to jump ship.

[RendeR]

They've both been quoted in interviews espousing how much they really love the show and their respective roles. I don't think they'll leave anytime soon.

[kcchief19]

I think the key to landing and keeping Olmos and McDonnell is three-fold:

1) The material is good -- both are getting up there in years and will not likely get big, juicy roles like this again. It's certainly possible for each to land another drama series, but I think they are at a point in their careers where as long as the material is good, they will stick with it.

2) They are surrounded by virtual unknowns. I think I had seen Grace Park in something, but everyone else in the cast was plucked from obscurity. That meant cheap. I seem to recall that the producers locked most of the other cast up long-term, which should keep a lid somewhat on salaries/costs.

3) And perhaps most importantly, Battlestar Galactica is a premiere show for two networks -- it's also a ratings grabber on SkyOne in the UK. The first season in fact aired months earlier on SkyOne before debuting on Sci-Fi because it launched I believe in October and Sci-Fi wanted to wait until January to launch it with the rest of their Friday lineup. I think the air dates are much closer now, but this is akin to a British cable channgel and NBC sharing costs for "Friends" and airing it on both networks. It's a unique situation, and probably allows both networks to afford a show otherwise out of its price range. I don't think there is any doubt that BG looks and feels better than any show on Sci-Fi, and maybe on cable outside HBO. It's a network-style show, even if it's airings on NBC flopped. So did Monk's on ABC.

[Galaril]

This show is becoming the Star Trek(original) or even more so "the Twilight Zone" of our generation.

[Raven Hawk]

One might even say it was the "Battlestar Galactica" of our generation . . . only better.

[TazFTW]

Imaginary Baltar scares me. So does this mean Baltar is a cylon? I think it'll be cooler if he was human and the resurrected 6 is hallucinating. Of course, they're now going to have a reunion of resurrected 6 and Baltar. Is the Xena cylon still alive in the fleet?

[kcchief19]

I thought "Download" was a tremendous episode. What a fascinating look at the Cylons. I also think it was intriguing the way Sharon's pregnancy was handled.

The bit with Baltar and the resurrected 6 hallucinating was a twist I did't see coming. It also poses a slew of questions -- how did Baltar survive the explosion if Six did not? Is Baltar a Cylon? Have the Cylons now acquired mental instability? I'm not sure of any of these answers. But it's interesting that the Six and Sharon models are becoming "pro-human."

[Bee]

I don't think Baltar's one of the 12 models. Six kept saying she had fallen in love with a human, referring to Baltar. If he were a cylon, that whole thing doesn't make sense. I guess it's possible he could be some unique cylon model that none of the rest know about, or something similar.

Also, during the episode, I noticed someone on Caprica walking down the street that didn't look like any known model. It was a young guy with short blonde hair (he looked like an older teenager). His head just flashed on the screen for a second and was gone. It didn't look like the Kevin Spacey model to me, but it was such a brief shot I could be wrong. (edit) I think this is the kind of thing they'd throw in as a hint based on what I've heard and read about the producers. :D

[RendeR]

I thought "Download" was a tremendous episode. What a fascinating look at the Cylons. I also think it was intriguing the way Sharon's pregnancy was handled.

The bit with Baltar and the resurrected 6 hallucinating was a twist I did't see coming. It also poses a slew of questions -- how did Baltar survive the explosion if Six did not? Is Baltar a Cylon? Have the Cylons now acquired mental instability? I'm not sure of any of these answers. But it's interesting that the Six and Sharon models are becoming "pro-human."
See I thought the explosion should have killed Baltar, its not like 6's body was going to protect him from a nuclear shockwave.

So 6 fell in love with a human: Baltar, who was consequently killed in the attack and created as a new cylon to take a high position in the fleet, because 6's reports would have shown the cylons in charge that baltar was a highly respected person and would be in a high position at some point later on in the surviving human society.

I think the psychotic fixation they have with one another is another way the command-cylons(whoever they might be) are tweaking their own people and keeping track of who does what and when.

There might be 12 models, but you notice that the 6 or 7 we know about only ever see those same models? I think Baltarand perhaps 3 others in the fleet are special models that we just haven't been given a glimpse into their real programming as yet.




Have I meantioned that I LOVE this show. best Sci-Fi series EVER. Period.

[Bad-example]

...psychotic fixation...Have I meantioned that I LOVE this show. best Sci-Fi series EVER. Period.


:)

[ISiddiqui]

Btw, BSG Xena >>> Xena Xena.

Those Cylons know how to make 'em ;).

[kcchief19]

See I thought the explosion should have killed Baltar, its not like 6's body was going to protect him from a nuclear shockwave.

So 6 fell in love with a human: Baltar, who was consequently killed in the attack and created as a new cylon to take a high position in the fleet, because 6's reports would have shown the cylons in charge that baltar was a highly respected person and would be in a high position at some point later on in the surviving human society.Geek Alert: This doesn't come from the show, but rather from the show's producers through their podcasts and such. Two key factors that would affect this: (1) no Cylon is based on an existing human; they are all original creations; and (2) the technology has only existed for two years, so no humanoid Cylon has a history beyond two years.

I think there are a lot of clues pointing toward Baltar being a Cylon to throw us off. I'm not sure if Baltar has a history that would preclude him from being a Cylon, but something tells me he is not.

Another interesting factoid from the producers: there are 12 Cylon models because the Cylons looked at humanity and decided there are essentially 12 humans, and each Cylon represents one of those "profiles." To me, that leads to the inevitability that once the Cylons achieved the ability to love that would allow them to procreate, they would develop other human traits as well that maybe they don't want, such as emotion and psychosis. If you look at Cylons other than 6 and Sharon, they are all cold, calculating, machines.

ot sure what all this means, but food for thought.

[Bad-example]

How long before they spin off a second show? Battlestar Pegasus?

I enjoy this show well enough. I just wish I could ignore the inconsistent art direction. I think they have done a nice job of getting away from the mystic bullshit that was so prevalent in season one. The writing is still rather spotty but I still look forward to BSG every week.

[Wolfpack]

But it's interesting that the Six and Sharon models are becoming "pro-human."

I finally got around to watching the show from last Friday on DVR. The ironic twist to all this is that the Baltar plaguing Six on Caprica is making her pro-human, while the Six plaguing Baltar on Galactica is making him pro-Cylon.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave....

[Fonzie]

I finally got around to watching the show from last Friday on DVR. The ironic twist to all this is that the Baltar plaguing Six on Caprica is making her pro-human, while the Six plaguing Baltar on Galactica is making him pro-Cylon.

Oh, what a tangled web we weave....

That certainly does set up a potentially interesting reunion, doesn't it?

[TazFTW]

Series finale = Pro human 6 meeting Pro Cylon Baltar and they kill each other.

[Fonzie]

Well damn. That was a trip.

[Wolfpack]

Series finale = Pro human 6 meeting Pro Cylon Baltar and they kill each other.

Must...resist...fritzing this one....

[sachmo71]

Well damn. That was a trip.


A most excellent way to end the season. Very nice. Damn, that was good!

[TazFTW]

What the Frak?

Does this mean that the Battlestars are going to be the 'Helo on Caprica' subplot while New Caprica takes over as the main storyline? They couldn't find a planet that had trees to build a log cabin? Or any materials whatsoever to build some sort of structure? If there are no materials, why the heck is there a union?

Where was One Year Later Zarek? Or Boomer and the two Dean Stockwells?

Speaking of Dean Stockwell, I like having him as a cylon. Maybe Dr. Sam Beckett can finally return home...

I didn't like the "choice" discussion between Adama and Rosalyn, it felt like at any moment they could go back to that choice and Rosalyn wins the election. Welcome back, Bobby Ewing...

[Flame Eater]

Great episode. I kept waiting for somebody to wake-up. Great episode! Very good show. Well done!

[Bad-example]

That was surprising when Baltar put his head down and suddenly it was the future. I also kept expecting him to wake up and change his mind about settling on New Caprica. Any chance we will find out next seaon that it really was a dream?

Filtered cigarettes. Bleh.

[TazFTW]

I don't listen to the podcasts but someone who does told me that they said it is not a dream. Of course, why would you give it away when the next season doesn't air until October?

[RendeR]

Just frakking WOW..... I'm....I'm......SO pissed they're waiting till OCT-FUCKING-TOBER!!!!

[Fonzie]

I don't listen to the podcasts but someone who does told me that they said it is not a dream. Of course, why would you give it away when the next season doesn't air until October?

I'd be shocked it if wound up all being a dream. They'd alienate their entire fan base by yanking them around so.

But Admiral Adama's 'stache is certainly the kind of thing nightmares are made of. That has to go ASAP.

[Galaril]

Maybe like in the original Baltar becomes the pseudo leader of the Cylons? And one question: how many personnel were on the battlestars when they jumped out of the planets orbit at the end? Will they be able to regroup? If all the humans are on new Caprica where will they get numbers tp replenish there ranks to fight?

[bosshogg23]

I really enjoyed the episode. Every 5 minutes something major was happening. The wife asked me to recap the episode for her this morning, I told her it wasnt possible, too much happened. Just wish Stargate/Stargate Atlantis could have similiar episodes.

[kcchief19]

I went back and watched the last half hour again today just to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. When I saw it last night, I too kept waiting for the revelation to come that it was a dream. My opinion last night was basically WTF.

Today, I'm a bit more optimistic. For some reason, I always feel a bit cheated when they resolve a plot point so quickly and that blow everything to hell again. We have a whole slew of backstories to figure out, such as what the cylons have been doing since they said their attack on the colonies and humanity was a mistake. Why are they back and what is their intention?

I'll admit, the writers do a great job of keeping you guessing and anticipating what will happen next -- they don't let you get complacent.

[kcchief19]

FYI

Season 3 Set to Premiere on SCI FI in October
New York, NY - March 8, 2006 - As SCI FI's hit original series Battlestar Galactica gears up for its biggest episode ever - this Friday's 90-minute season 2 finale - the Channel begins preparations for the October 2006 premiere of the show's eagerly anticipated third season. Production on season 3 begins in Vancouver in April.
Returning to its Friday night slot with a complete 20-episode order, season 3 of Battlestar Galactica promises even more of the drama, intrigue and action that viewers have come to expect from the series. One of television's most critically-acclaimed dramas, Battlestar Galactica has captured the minds of a new generation of fans, distinguishing itself with the intensity and present day relevance of its stories and the command performances of its ensemble cast.
The entire Battlestar Galactica ensemble will return, including Edward James Olmos, Mary McDonnell, Katee Sackhoff, Jamie Bamber, James Callis, Tricia Helfer and Grace Park. As previously announced, Lucy Lawless will also join the cast for a 10-episode arc, reprising her role as D'Anna Biers, a Cylon.
Executive produced by Ronald D. Moore and David Eick, Battlestar Galactica is from NBC Universal Television Studio.
SCI FI's ever-popular Stargate series, SG-1 and Atlantis, will return with their new seasons in July 2006.

[TazFTW]

Here's some Season 3 stuff from Ron Moore.

http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3300/2/

He talks about some of the plotlines they're thinking of for Season 3.

[Kodos]

Awesome finale, but so depressing. And we have to wait until October? Guess I have plenty of time to watch the miniseries and early episodes that I never saw.

I wonder how the constantly bitching Lost fans would feel if it didn't return until October...

[sachmo71]

Here's some Season 3 stuff from Ron Moore.

http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/3300/2/

He talks about some of the plotlines they're thinking of for Season 3.


Great read. Thanks very much.

I'm very tempted to finally buy the season 1 compliation now. It's going to be quite a wait for season two.

[ISiddiqui]

Just saw it on DVR... HOLY CRAP! What an ending! Great risk there, willing to try something new and this, IMO, bodes well for the series. Sure risks may not always work, but how long can a 'cat & mouse' series go on for?

And it ain't a dream...

SPOILERS! You've been WARNED! (scroll down)













In an interview with Moore, he says the occupation story arc is going to be the big deal in the beginning of the season. Also a trip to the Cylon homeworld and a Cylon story arc is in the works for Season 3.

[Coop]

Just saw it on DVR... HOLY CRAP! What an ending! Great risk there, willing to try something new and this, IMO, bodes well for the series. Sure risks may not always work, but how long can a 'cat & mouse' series go on for?

And it ain't a dream...

SPOILERS! You've been WARNED! (scroll down)













In an interview with Moore, he says the occupation story arc is going to be the big deal in the beginning of the episode. Also a trip to the Cylon homeworld and a Cylon story arc is in the works for Season 3.

the occupation arc is going to be 4 episodes

[Bonegavel]

Finally finished up the end of season 2. Wow, what a weird final episode. But, this is part of why I like this show as they do things a bit differently. I love it that so many folks die.

[Bonegavel]

And one question: how many personnel were on the battlestars when they jumped out of the planets orbit at the end?

At one point, the number 39,xxxx something popped up on the screen when it was referring to New Caprica and I think there was around 46,000 on Roslyn's board. Not sure how many the nuke took with them but I'd say there are still a few thousand folks up in the sky.

[Bad-example]

Tonight they are airing the miniseries from 11pm-3am.

[TazFTW]

'Galactica' Prequel on Tap at Sci Fi
'Chariots of the Gods' miniseries also in development

The Sci Fi Channel will delve into the backstory of "Battlestar Galactica" with a new series that looks at the years leading up to humanity's devastation by the Cylons.

The prequel, called "Caprica," heads a list of development projects the cable network unveiled Wednesday. Also in the works are a miniseries based on the book "Chariots of the Gods" and series from Jesse Alexander ("Alias"), Christopher McQuarrie ("The Usual Suspects"), Eric McCormack and Freddie Prinze Jr.

Additionally, legendary B-movie director Roger Corman will produce two films for Sci Fi's Saturday movie franchise: "Cyclops," about the mythical beast wreaking havoc on ancient Rome, and "Supergator," which pretty much explains itself.

"Caprica" will be set more than 50 years prior to the events of "Battlestar Galactica" and focus on the lives of two families -- the Adamas (ancestors of future Galactica commander William) and the Graystones. Humankind's Twelve Colonies are at peace and on the verge of a technological breakthrough: the first Cylon.

As "Battlestar Galactica" is about a lot more than space battles, "Caprica" will be as much family drama as sci-fi tale. Remi Aubuchon ("The Lyon's Den," "24") is writing the pilot script; "Galactica" veterans Ronald D. Moore and David Eick will executive produce it.

"Chariots of the Gods," Erich von Daniken's book purporting to offer evidence that aliens visited Earth several thousand years ago, is being turned into a six-hour miniseries by writer John Whelpley ("Star Trek: The Next Generation," "Andromeda"). The miniseries will center on a soldier whose souvenir from his tour of duty may hold evidence of alien interference with human life since ancient times.


This cannot be good.
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[bosshogg23]

Well its interesting certainly, cant say I expected to see this.

"As "Battlestar Galactica" is about a lot more than space battles, "Caprica" will be as much family drama as sci-fi tale."

Thats my real problem, family drama.

Negative thoughts aside, I will still watch at least the first episode because I enjoy BSG so much.

[cthomer5000]

Just got entirely caught up on BSG... I think it's the best Sci-Fi show I've ever seen, although I'm a little wary of where they can go with it from here. I already thought there were a few filler episodes in season 2.



On Billy:

I was really surprised and sad to see them kill him off. He was probably the only true "everyman" character on that show. I guess Chief qualifies, but it was nice to have a civilian perspective on things. I wonder if some real-life stuff dictated that decision.


Looking forward to Season 3... kind of scared of the prequel series.

[cthomer5000]

dola...

great observation off the IMDB board:

Whatever happened to knowing your audience? You've got a planet full of hard-core sci-fi fans watching a shy, slight dorky dude romancing an hot little petty officer and you kill him off? You worked so hard (since the pilot movie) to set them up to fall in love, and then you replace him with a fighter jock?

:D

[larrymcg421]

Please. Apollo is the biggest dork on the show, no matter how much they try to make him look like a badass. (like in that awful noir episode, WTF was that?). Too bad Starbuck's aim was so bad.

[Kodos]

It's gonna be a long wait for new episodes...

[sachmo71]

It's gonna be a long wait for new episodes...


june, right?

[amdaily]

june, right?

October :(

The Stargates will return in June, then Battlestar gets to fly solo vs. the regular networks in the fall. Recipe for killing the show IMO.

[cthomer5000]

I just wanted to make one more comment to agree with whoever said that the "rewind" (96 hours ago, etc.) episodes got a little tired in season 2. They had a string of them right in a row, and they all kind of seemed like filler episodes.

Still, I think season 3 could be pretty strong due to the overall quality of writing and acting. It's a well put-together show.

[saldana]

October :(

The Stargates will return in June, then Battlestar gets to fly solo vs. the regular networks in the fall. Recipe for killing the show IMO.

i disagree...what else are people in general watching at 10 pm on a friday...there is no csi-esqe show to compete with, no reality show to fight against...then narrow down to the people that watch this show, and it is pretty much a dead solid lock to put do very well in that slot and allow sci-fi to lead into it with some new shows (sg-1 cant last forever)

[kcchief19]

October :(

The Stargates will return in June, then Battlestar gets to fly solo vs. the regular networks in the fall. Recipe for killing the show IMO.
You do see what the schedule on Friday nights don't you? Generally tax writeoffs. BSG and the other sci-series as well as Monk and USA have made quite a killing on Friday nights going for the niche audience when no one is watching the networks.

[Kodos]

I just wanted to make one more comment to agree with whoever said that the "rewind" (96 hours ago, etc.) episodes got a little tired in season 2. They had a string of them right in a row, and they all kind of seemed like filler episodes.

Still, I think season 3 could be pretty strong due to the overall quality of writing and acting. It's a well put-together show.

I agree with my comment as well. :)