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QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:04 AM
Okay, not really a puzzle -- but I need some help.
I met an NBA player a day or two ago, and didn't actually catch his name. Really nice guy, we chatted a bit -- there just wasn't an easy chance for me to just pop in with "dude, what's you name?" So, I came away with a few clues... and though I'd be able to figure out who he is. However, I did a little searching, and came up empty.
So, here are the clues that I gathered while playing cards with this guy:
-When asked, he said that he played for the LA Clippers, but followed up by saying that he was currently a free agent
-He's not particularly tall -- I'd guess maybe 6 feet even, give or take an inch or two. I reckon that means he'd list at 6'6" in the NBA?
-He looked fairly young to me, but at one point I asked him jokingly if we'd be reading about him signing a new "Michael Redd contract" and he chuckled and said two things: "Naw, I'm too old for that" and "I'm a one year kind of guy." So I assume he's more or less a journeyman roster filler type.
-He's an African-american with very well-groomer short black hair and a small dark moustache, at least as he appeared lately.
-For what it's worth, I have the sense that this is a rather smart guy (I can testify he's a pretty good poker player) -- so I have been thinking point guard, but there's nothing more to that hunch other than apparent size and smarts.
I looked at the Clippers roster on nba.com and looked at all the pictures -- nobody seemed like a good match. Visually, he looked a bit like Corey Maggette (he has what I might call a somewhat "roundish" head), but his answer to the contract question seemed to rule that out.
Anyone care to take a stab? If you can post a pic, I can probably confirm or deny...
Suicane75
07-11-2005, 12:06 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/heat/dooling_140_041027.jpg
Kenyon Dooling?
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:08 AM
Yeah, Bobby Simmons isn't old at all. Turkey punk.
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:11 AM
Shit, my sarcasm needs a little work.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:11 AM
That picture looks a lot more like the guy I met than the other picture of Bobby Simmons I previously found. That's probably him.
(When I look at the other pic, I can't see much resemblance... and I guess it's at least possible that I mis-heard him talking about being "old")
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:12 AM
Bobby Simmons just signed a pretty hefty contract.
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:13 AM
5 years, 47 million. Honestly, how can you not recognize a guy from a photo?
Suicane75
07-11-2005, 12:13 AM
Bobby Simmons just signed a pretty hefty contract. With who?
And.....I WON!!!
Does this mean I have to start the next puzzle?
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:14 AM
With who?
And.....I WON!!!
Yeah, the clues seemed to have made perfect sense with this one.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:15 AM
Unless he signed the contyract within the last 36 hours, that's not the guy. The guy I met seemed fairly circumspect about his contract situation... didn't sound like a big money guy to me.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:16 AM
I'm seeing Bobby Ssimmons's height listed from 6-6 to 6-8... and the guy I met coouldn't possibly be any taller than about 6-2. Even for NBA standards, I think that's a miss.
Suicane75
07-11-2005, 12:17 AM
I'm seeing Bobby Ssimmons's height listed from 6-6 to 6-8... and the guy I met coouldn't possibly be any taller than about 6-2. Even for NBA standards, I think that's a miss.
You motherfucker.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:19 AM
Well, the fact that they list his weight at 265 lbs is another clue -- the guy I met couldn't possibly be over 200, though I'm not a great judge of such things, I'm pretty confident in that.
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:20 AM
Probably Kenny Anderson.
cthomer5000
07-11-2005, 12:20 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/kerry_kittles.jpg
Kerry Kittles?
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:20 AM
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/nba/2002/0510/photo/a_kenny_vt.jpg
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:21 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/kerry_kittles.jpg
Kerry Kittles?
Seriously, you guys.
panerd
07-11-2005, 12:22 AM
Sounds a lot like Keyon Dooling. (What am I saying, a lot? I should say he matches all your clues) Didn't play for LA last year, but did for every other year so he may consider himself a Clipper. I also know a few guys that were good friends with him at Mizzou and he was a big poker guy and not really a big partier.
http://www.nba.com/media/heat/dooling_140_041027.jpg
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:24 AM
Let's see. Keyon is 25 and not a free agent.
Suicane75
07-11-2005, 12:24 AM
This thread is closed, i am teh werewolf!
panerd
07-11-2005, 12:26 AM
Let's see. Keyon is 25 and not a free agent.
I am pretty sure he is a free agent, he only signed a one year deal to back-up Wade. A really big Miami fan is free to come in and correct me, but I try to really keep a close eye on Mizzou guys. So I would think he would consider himself a free agent.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:27 AM
Keyon Dooling is a much better fit. He didn't drink at the poker table, either... and if he's a confirmed poker player, that makes plenty of sense. Your pic (above) is a pretty good match, a bit better than the one at nba.com -- but I think that must be the guy.
cthomer5000
07-11-2005, 12:29 AM
Keyon Dooling opted out of a $807,546 final year in Miami and was flattered by the attention the Nets showed.
-- New York Post
So sov isn't entirely wrong (or the mistake is at least understandable). He did sign a two year deal last year, but just opted out of year two.
edit: and this all appears to have happened a matter of days ago... like probably early last week.
double edit: and the fact that he only played one year with Miami would probably help build the self-described "one year guy" image
Rick Brunson? He's listed as 6-4.
http://www.nba.com/media/playerfile/rick_brunson.jpg
http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/brunson_140_041026.jpg
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:31 AM
Dooling is waiting for his option to be picked up currently. He signed a 1-year deal with the Heat last year with a player option. He would consider himself a member of the Heat. Seriously, how could you not recognize a guy you spoke face-to-face with?
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:32 AM
Keyon Dooling opted out of a $807,546 final year in Miami and was flattered by the attention the Nets showed.
-- New York Post
So sov isn't entirely wrong (or the mistake is at least understandable). He did sign a two year deal last year, but just opted out of year two.
edit: and this all appears to have happened a matter of days ago... like probably early last week.
double edit: and the fact that he only played one year with Miami would probably help build the self-described "one year guy" image
Bah, I quit. I don't see how you wouldn't recognize a guy.
panerd
07-11-2005, 12:33 AM
Keyon Dooling is a much better fit. He didn't drink at the poker table, either... and if he's a confirmed poker player, that makes plenty of sense. Your pic (above) is a pretty good match, a bit better than the one at nba.com -- but I think that must be the guy.
Yeah, I mean I don't know that he is that a big poker player as much he stayed under the radar and away from the big parties and other things that most college athletes seem to have a lot of trouble with at Missouri. As far as student-athletes go he is one that you were kind of glad went to your school.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:33 AM
Seriously, how could you not recognize a guy you spoke face-to-face with?
I'm not trying to be difficult... none of these pictures looks exactly like the guy I played with. The pic of Dooling is awfully close, and very well could be him, but when I saw it I did not say "oh, absolutely!" I am sorry that this upsets you so much. I really didn't mean to cause any harm with this exercise.
cthomer5000
07-11-2005, 12:33 AM
Bah, I quit. I don't see how you wouldn't recognize a guy.
Well, I can see where Quik might be coming from. I'm terrible with faces, names, everything. I'm a self-centered bastard at heart.
Suicane75
07-11-2005, 12:35 AM
I get it, "they" all look alike to you.
That was a joke, please dont let me be banned.
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:36 AM
I get it, "they" all look alike to you.
That was a joke, please dont let me be banned.
Fuck, I was about ready to say the same thing.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:39 AM
FWIW, there are certain things that I do remember about the guy I met. He had very slightly enlarged front teeth -- nothing ridiculous or laughable, but just prominent. If I saw a picture where he was smiling or laughing, that might be distinctive. He also had a particularly neatly-trimmer moustache -- and if I saw it in a pic the same way, I might reocgnize that. However, it isn't the same moustache shape -- which doesn't rule him out, but also makes it a bit tougher to match him up.
The pictures I have found of Dooling look generally like the guy I met (eyes look similar, and the shape pof his head seems right) so I'm inclined to think that the superficial changes (like momentary grooming differences) are the only thing keeping me from being certain.
Again, sorry.
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:39 AM
I get it, "they" all look alike to you.
I can't believe it took you that long.
Thanks.
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:41 AM
Daddy?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/images/basketball/nba/players/3409.jpg
cthomer5000
07-11-2005, 12:44 AM
http://www.celebritysportstalk.com/cstimages/cstimages/jpegimages/keyondoolingjaoff.jpghttp://www.celebritysportstalk.com/cstimages/cstimages/jpegimages/doolingfamilyjacenter.jpg
?
Suicane75
07-11-2005, 12:44 AM
Was it this guy?
http://www.coffeehouse-at-end-of-days.com/pics/potatohead.jpg
Or perhaps this dude?
http://www.showtimeattractions.com.au/mr-potato-head-web.jpg
Or it might have been this gent,
http://www.exchangesjournal.org/classroom/1108_Figure_3a2.jpg
It may have been this guy, but i think he just signed an offer sheet with Utah,
http://www.ultimatekeychains.com/ProductImages/basicfun/364.gif
sovereignstar
07-11-2005, 12:45 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/clippers/graphic_drking_headshot_040.jpg
Suicane75
07-11-2005, 12:50 AM
http://www.gospelexchange.com/Travel_Services/black%20family%202.jpg
Dude 2nd from the right?
panerd
07-11-2005, 12:51 AM
I think it has to be Dooling. You are from the DC area, right? I would assume he would be the type of player that Washington would look for to try and help fill the hole caused by the loss of Hughes. So maybe he was in town interviewing or whatever NBA players do.
Forget what people are saying about the pictures too. It's not like you can't identify a black guy, you can't identify a black athlete basketball player. It would be like meeting a white guy with a gottee at a party that is a major league pitcher. You could find 25 guys that look exactly the same.
I also can't believe how much time I am spending trying to confirm it's Dooling, like he is some good friend of mine or something. :)
QuikSand
07-11-2005, 12:56 AM
FWIW, this happened in Las Vegas. I'm guessing that Dooling still lives in LA after playing several years with the Clippers.
sterlingice
07-11-2005, 12:56 AM
Well, I can see where Quik might be coming from. I'm terrible with faces, names, everything. I'm a self-centered bastard at heart.
What really makes it tough for me is seeing it out of context. After Royals games, you can always hang around near the player's parking lot for autographs. And there are guys that I've seen lots of times up at bat or in the field- who I can identify in an instant if I see them on tv. But in street clothes, away from their expected surrounding and look, it becomes much more difficult.
SI
Raven
07-11-2005, 12:57 AM
QS, this (http://www.basketballreference.com/teams/teampage.htm?tm=lac&lg=n) might help your search.
Keyon Dooling is listed as 6'3 - 196. Drafted by the Clippers in 2000 1st round, career average is just under 6 PPG, which fits the "1 year kind of guy" comment.
But he was born in 1980, so that doesn't fit the "i'm too old for that" comment.
I'm not an NBA fan, so I don't know who you are looking for. From your comments though, I'd imagine he would average around 6 PPG, but probably be 27 or so.
stevew
07-11-2005, 02:48 AM
Rick Brunson?
korme
07-11-2005, 04:17 AM
http://www.nba.com/media/heat/dooling_140_041027.jpg
Kenyon Dooling?
Idiot, you didn't win shit. Anyone who remotely follows the NBA knows that is KEYON Dooling.
The only other FA canidates are Marko Jaric (not black), and Bobby Simmons (not short).
korme
07-11-2005, 04:24 AM
From reading the thread, I bet it is Rick Brunson. Knick-Bull-Clipper teh last 3 years, fitting the "1 year player" type, unlike Dooling who has only been a Clipper and Heat player.
korme
07-11-2005, 04:27 AM
Wrong, the Blazers and Raptos have been stints in between the years I mentioned. This makes it even more sensible, Brunson was born in 72 making him 33. Old ass NBA player even though to me it feels like he is young.
Year Ag Tm Lg G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
+---------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
1998 25 POR (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/1998.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1998.html) 38 16.4 1.3 3.7 0.6 1.6 1.1 1.6 0.4 1.1 1.5 2.6 0.7 0.1 1.4 1.4 4.3
1999 26 NYK (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/1999.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_1999.html) 17 5.6 0.4 1.2 0.0 0.3 0.3 1.1 0.2 0.4 0.6 1.1 0.5 0.0 0.7 0.5 1.0
2000 27 NYK (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2000.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2000.html) 37 7.8 0.8 1.9 0.1 0.4 0.3 0.5 0.1 0.6 0.7 1.3 0.2 0.0 0.8 0.9 1.9
2001 28 BOS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2001.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2001.html) 7 20.3 1.4 5.0 0.3 1.6 0.6 1.3 0.3 1.0 1.3 3.4 1.0 0.1 1.3 2.3 3.7
NYK (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2001.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2001.html) 15 4.4 0.5 1.3 0.0 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.2 0.6 0.8 0.5 0.1 0.0 0.5 0.3 1.3
TOT NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2001.html) 22 9.5 0.8 2.5 0.1 0.6 0.4 0.7 0.2 0.7 1.0 1.4 0.4 0.0 0.8 1.0 2.1
2002 29 POR (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2002.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2002.html) 59 8.8 0.8 1.9 0.1 0.2 0.5 0.7 0.4 0.8 1.2 1.9 0.4 0.0 0.8 0.9 2.1
2003 30 CHI (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/2003.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2003.html) 17 11.5 1.4 2.9 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.7 0.2 0.9 1.1 2.1 0.6 0.2 1.0 1.2 3.5
2004 31 TOR (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2004.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2004.html) 3 3.3 0.7 1.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1.3
CHI (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/2004.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2004.html) 37 10.9 1.0 2.7 0.3 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.2 0.8 1.0 2.2 0.7 0.1 0.9 1.2 3.1
TOT NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2004.html) 40 10.3 1.0 2.6 0.3 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.2 0.7 0.9 2.1 0.6 0.1 0.8 1.1 3.0
2005 32 LAC (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAC/2005.html) NBA (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2005.html) 80 24.3 2.1 5.5 0.6 1.6 0.7 0.9 0.3 2.1 2.3 5.1 1.0 0.1 1.6 1.3 5.5
+---------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+
8 Seasons 310 13.8 1.2 3.2 0.3 0.8 0.6 0.9 0.3 1.1 1.4 2.7 0.6 0.1 1.1 1.1 3.3
+---------------+----+----+----+----+---+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+</pre>
Neuqua
07-11-2005, 04:37 AM
If I had gotten into the thread earlier I would almost surely have said Rick Brunson but Quik seems to think Keyon looks a lot like the fellow he talked to and Keyon and Rick don't really look all that alike.
Passacaglia
07-12-2005, 10:01 AM
Dooling is waiting for his option to be picked up currently. He signed a 1-year deal with the Heat last year with a player option. He would consider himself a member of the Heat. Seriously, how could you not recognize a guy you spoke face-to-face with?
Quik probably just forgot to mention that he was wearing those stupid glasses that cover your eyes!
WSUCougar
07-12-2005, 10:12 AM
With some merciless editing, this thread could be a classic.
sovereignstar
07-12-2005, 10:16 AM
Quik probably just forgot to mention that he was wearing those stupid glasses that cover your eyes!
You trying to be funny only leads to faggotry and problems. I'd advise against it.
Pumpy Tudors
07-12-2005, 10:20 AM
This thread has a lot of anger in it. With that said, I think the person QuikSand saw is me.
Raven
07-12-2005, 12:48 PM
Was it this guy?
http://www.rwbl-ootp-online.com/images/Pumpy1.jpg
http://www.rwbl-ootp-online.com/images/Pumpy2.jpg
Swaggs
07-12-2005, 01:02 PM
How did I miss this thread?
It's an instant classic.
MikeVic
07-12-2005, 01:02 PM
The first picture looks like he's from NBA Jam.
MikeVic
07-12-2005, 01:05 PM
And yeah... QS said the guy had prominent front teeth... doesn't the first pic of Brunson show this clearly?
sterlingice
07-12-2005, 01:09 PM
The first picture looks like he's from NBA Jam.
He's on fire?
SI
stevew
09-07-2005, 11:04 AM
On the first day of free agency this summer, Rick Brunson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3240) called his agent, Leon Rose.
"I haven't heard anything," Rose said, proving that he is Brunson's friend as well as an advisor. Somebody else might've shouted: "You're Rick Brunson, for God's sake! I've got LeBron James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3704), Allen Iverson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3094), Eddie Jones (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=2633) and Rip Hamilton as clients! I've got to find jobs for Aaron McKie (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=2640), Dajuan Wagner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3604) and DeSagana Diop! You've been a free agent eight straight summers and no one's ever called! How did you get past my secretary, anyway?"
"I'm not calling about that," Brunson said. "I just wanted to see how you were doing."
Three hours later, Rose called him back. "You won't believe who called," he said.
<!---------------------PULL-QUOTE TABLE (BEGIN)---------------------><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD width=4><SPACER width="3" type="block" height="1"></TD><TD>“</TD><TD width=225>I've never been embarrassed about being cut and I never went into a situation thinking I was better than anybody ”</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD width=4><SPACER width="3" type="block" height="1"></TD><TD></TD><TD width=225>— Rick Brunson, NBA survivor</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!---------------------PULL-QUOTE TABLE (END)--------------------->And that's how Brunson's reign as the King of Non-Guaranteed Contracts ended. After eight offseasons of watching who signed where to decide which training-camp invitation he should pursue, Brunson made the transaction wire himself, signing a one-year, $1 million deal with the Sonics. Fully guaranteed.
"We knew we were the first," Sonics general manager Rick Sund said. "It was a selling point. We also wanted him to feel the belief we had in him."
Brunson going to Seattle amounted to a keypad beep amid the air horns of free-agent signings, but for anyone who has doggedly clung to a far-fetched dream -- in other words, most of us -- it was Gabriel channeling Miles Davis in Carnegie Hall. Translation: a loud, triumphant, miraculously blessed sound. Dorothy ain't the only one who took a circuitous route to the Emerald City. Brunson went undrafted out of Temple, played in Australia and the CBA his first two years as a pro, got cut by two different teams (Magic and Knicks) in the same preseason (1997) and has been waived six times in all. The Sonics are his eighth team in a nine-year career, putting him one year away from his personal goal of playing 10 years in the NBA. The list of lottery picks or vastly more talented players who haven't achieved that would reach the top of the Space Needle. Roy Tarpley. Lloyd Daniels. Todd Day. Carlos Rogers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=2634). Terry DeHere. Big Country Reeves, Shawn Respert, Ed O'Bannon and Mario Bennett, all drafted the year Brunson wasn't, didn't come close.
None of that, though, had Brunson throwing a celebratory barbecue at his Cherry Hill, N.J., home with Rose and his family the last weekend in July. The Sonics' offer arrived right after Brunson completed a 400-hour work-study program as a social worker with troubled teens in Philadelphia, thereby fulfilling the last major requirement for his bachelor's degree from Temple.
"I never really cared about celebrating my contract," Brunson said. "Playing basketball is easy. But going to school is not for everybody."
http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nba/2005/0902/photo/g_brunson_195.jpg
He is not likely to inspire as many people to go into social work as he has to chase an NBA career. Every playground semi-legend who has seen Brunson play has thought, "If that dude can play in the NBA, then I know I can." They are both right and dead wrong. Listed as 6-foot-4 and 205 pounds, he's not quick, has miniscule ups and has to have his feet set to make a 3. He has a decent handle, but he's not going to single-handedly break a press or collapse a defense. He's a defensive hound, but most guards can get a step on him at will. There are hundreds of guys playing pick-up games every day with greater physical gifts.
But they've got a better chance of being LeBron than Brunson. Because NBA teams aren't made of the 12 most talented players a GM can find. They're made of 12 players, ideally, who can work together for an entire 82-game season. Brunson is on the brink of reaching his goal because it didn't come with any caveats, like, "I want to play 10 years and average X points or X assists or make X dollars." He wanted to be in the NBA for 10 years, period.
So he developed an ego to fit every occasion. He became so adept at finding his way onto a team in October that four out of the last five years the editors of the official NBA Register included him and left the team name blank.
"I've never been embarrassed about being cut and I never went into a situation thinking I was better than anybody," he says. "I've seen too many guys who use the money as a crutch. If they have a bad day, it's 'The coach doesn't like me' or 'All I need is a good half of a season and I can get paid.' Every time I stepped on the court, I wasn't just playing for one team, I was performing for 29 other teams as well. Everyone has a role, but not everyone can play. I understood that. I knew I could play in the league, but I knew I had value as a practice player, too."
Everyone, though, itches to show what they can do, and prove they're better than advertised. Brunson's advice: Get your ya-yas out in the offseason pick-up runs. NBA reserves are best seen, on time and always in the right place, attempting to stick with the program. They aren't called on to win games as much as they're looked to not to lose them. They're expected to play all-out but under control. When Brunson was lucky enough to make a roster, he might have gone days or weeks with no burn but would have to stay physically and mentally in shape and then play mistake-free or efficiently in, say, a four-minute stint. Playing or not, he knew he'd be yelled at, so the coach could get his message across to his stars without risk of alienating them.
"I have a saying: Never exhale," Brunson said. "Once you get comfortable, you're on your way out."
His chance to be more than a practice player finally came last season, thanks to injuries to Clippers guards Marko Jaric (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3429) and No. 4 pick Shaun Livingston (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3821). Brunson made 80 appearances and 39 starts and proved he could play significant minutes and hold a team together. He passed, shot and defended as the game plan dictated without complaint or hesitation. There were plenty of times he didn't make a play, but rarely did he try to make the wrong one. Most coaches can live with that, especially from their third-string point guard. He averaged 5.1 assists and 1.6 turnovers and made enough 3s (36 percent) to keep teams honest.
"His assists per minutes played is one of the best in the league," Sund said. "What we like is that there is no unknown with him. You know what you're getting. He knows who he is."
None of that was enough for the Clippers. Rather than snap up the Sonics' offer, Brunson demonstrated his gratitude by giving the Clippers a chance to keep him. They didn't even try as part of an overhaul that has upgraded their talent at the expense of chemistry. Maybe coach Mike Dunleavy can find enough shots for Sam Cassell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=1295), Cuttino Mobley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3284), Corey Maggette (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3336) and Elton Brand (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3324) without derailing the development of Shaun Livingston and Chris Kaman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3709) -- and maybe Kofi Annan and George Dubya will bunk down in a timeshare on the French Riviera this winter. Peace prizes all around, if that happens.
"I wish I was there just to see how that's going to work," Brunson said, smiling.
The Clippers' snub was one more test of his philosophy of trying for the best and preparing for the worst, a mind-set he credits Temple coach John Chaney for cultivating. His mom, Nancy Linton, meanwhile, demonstrated what perseverance can do. Linton raised five kids on her own in the projects of Syracuse, N.Y. The family was eligible for welfare but she refused, choosing to work as an operator for BlueCross BlueShield, a job she still holds today.
"That stuck with me," Brunson said.
Hence, the degree, which always is a nice touch on a coaching resume, particularly if it was earned working with troubled teenagers. He believes he could stretch his playing career to a full dozen seasons, but he's already working toward his next job -- coaching the Owls.
"They know my intentions," he said.
For now, he can prepare for the season imagining Ray Allen (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3080) on one wing and Rashard Lewis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3275) on the other. He can look at the schedule and plan for his family -- wife Sandra, son Jalen (9) and daughter Erica (4) -- to come out to Seattle and know when he'll be on the East Coast to see them. What he can't do, he says, is think he's assured of anything other than a paycheck.
"My first thought was I have to work even harder to prove I haven't relaxed," Brunson said.
As Rose said upon hearing Brunson would get his just public due on Labor Day weekend: "Nothing could be more appropriate."
Ric Bucher covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine and collaborated with Rockets center Yao Ming on "Yao: A Life in Two Worlds."
gstelmack
09-07-2005, 11:18 AM
I gave this thread 5 stars just for the Mr. Potatohead post. It's posts like that (and flere's long-overdue MSPaint drawings) that keep me coming back here...
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