OT: Survivor - Guatamala

[Swaggs]

It's about that time again. :)

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor11/

Who's got the early predictions based on looks and bios?

[Swaggs]

I think I'm liking Margaret with her favorite sports teams: Pittsburgh Steelers, WVU Mountaineers.

Danni has some big collagenated lips, but is a sports talk show host in Kansas.

Lots of young hotties.

[TazFTW]

Go Hogeboom! I'm also rooting for Judd.


Brian needs to go.

[Jesse_Ewiak]

Can I make the horrible 'how 'bout we dump' em in NO and then it'll be a real Survivor' joke?

[Joe]

Lots of young hotties.


So its like every other season of survivor? I can't wait. :D

[Scarecrow]

Going to be a homer and root for Danni and Brandon.

[Raiders Army]

Magician's Assistant/Waitress = Unemployed

[Swaggs]

Is Danni well known in the area, Scarecrow?

[Scarecrow]

Is Danni well known in the area, Scarecrow?
I haven't heard of her. But a) I don't listen to 610 sports (I prefer 810) and b) I don't listen to the radio at 10am-12pm on Sundays.

Here's the info on her show: http://www.610sports.com/showdj.asp?DJID=26594

[Lathum]

Magician's Assistant/Waitress = Unemployed
why would you consider a waitress unemployed?

[Pacersfan46]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

I'm in love with Brianna ..... this is straight from her CBS page profile ...

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FAVORITES:

Actresses: Britney Spears, Carmen Electra, any hot chick

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Wo0T w0oT!!

[FrogMan]

anybody know who this Gary guy is and for which team he played in the NFL?

FM

[TazFTW]

Cardinals, Cowboys, and Colts.

[Lathum]

Amy looks annoying
Brian will be a whiney bitch
Brianna will complain alot
Brook will be the hot tomboy
Cindy-see Amy
Danni-OMG
Gary will piss tribe mates off
Jamie will piss viewers off
Jim token old man filled with cliches
Lydia, what the fuck is a fishmonger?
Margret-see Gary, add a she mullet
Morgan will manipulate Blake whie Judd makes off color comments

Winner- Jim

[Raven]

Just saw a commercial that said they will be bringing back two of our favorite former Survivors to join the cast. One guy and one girl.


Speculations?


I hope the female is Elizabeth. I loved her.

[Swaggs]

Interesting twist, Raven.

I think Elizabeth just had a baby, so she might not be too likely.

Tough to guess without knowing whether or not they would bring back any "all stars."

[Maple Leafs]

The wife says she heard who's coming back. She told me who it was... if she's right, it's good, but nothing to get too worked up over.

[Swaggs]

The wife says she heard who's coming back. She told me who it was... if she's right, it's good, but nothing to get too worked up over.

Well?

[Barkeep49]

Rumor I heard was it was Stephanie and Bobby Jon.

I started watching last season, after having only watched half of season 1, season 2, and all star, a couple of shows in and was glad I did so. I think I might take the wait and see approach again as I have no real interest in bad Survivor.

[Raven]

If it's Steph and Bobbi Jon, I think that would be cool. I was a fan of both.

[dervack]

If it's Steph and Bobbi Jon, I think that would be cool. I was a fan of both.
Yep, back to keep losing.

[Swaggs]

Steph was one of those rare Survivors that looked worse after she left the show and got made up and dressed up.

[dervack]

Steph was one of those rare Survivors that looked worse after she left the show and got made up and dressed up.
Yeah. I thought the same thing. Dying of hunger, hot. Made for TV, not.

[Pacersfan46]

Damn, if she's there I hope she wins it all. She deserved to win it when her team couldn't win crap, but stuck in there longer than I think anyone else would have.
All the while she was doing everything to pull that team on her shoulders.

I can't imagine one player in any Survivor who I think could have lasted longer than she did in that situation.

[Barkeep49]

I don't think any previous survivor stands a chance. I think they'll be targets just like all the winners were during Survivor All Star.

[Bouton56]

As with every other Survivor season that has been on. Don't care.

[Lathum]

As with every other Survivor season that has been on. Don't care.
Then don't post and don't open the thread you stupid troll.

[atatange1]

I don't like this at all. Weren't Bobby Jon and Steph technically two of the biggest losers in Survivior history? I don't think anyone should come back, except for Boston Rob of course

[Joe]

I don't like this at all. Weren't Bobby Jon and Steph technically two of the biggest losers in Survivior history? I don't think anyone should come back, except for Boston Rob of course

technically. but it was the other losers fault in their tribe. :D

[Joe]

also, I doubt much of anyone would've had a chance against RoboSurvivor Tom.

[Maple Leafs]

Yes, Steph and Bobby Jon was what my wife heard as well. Just thought I'd try to avoid the spoilers...

Anyways, count me among those who liked Stephenie as a character but never understood the respect she got. She lost more often than anyone in Survivor history, yet somehow got the reputation of a dominant player. I don't get it.

[Lathum]

I guess the producers felt bad for them

[mauchow]

Morgan, Brooke, Brianna, Danni.. In that order.

[saldana]

a good friend of mine who is gay and i are playing "pick the homosexual" from amongst the men..he is going with rafe, but i am betting on blake

and on the hot chick front...did you all hear that Jeff Probst is dating Julie Berry from 2 seasons ago.

[Joe]

and on the hot chick front...did you all hear that Jeff Probst is dating Julie Berry from 2 seasons ago.

yeah thats been going on for a while now. they are still together I take it?

[Raven]

Julie was smokin'.

If anybody missed it, she was in Maxim or FHM...one of those mags.

[Raven]

Yes, Steph and Bobby Jon was what my wife heard as well. Just thought I'd try to avoid the spoilers...

Anyways, count me among those who liked Stephenie as a character but never understood the respect she got. She lost more often than anyone in Survivor history, yet somehow got the reputation of a dominant player. I don't get it.

In my opinion, she was like a Hall of Famer on a sub .500 team.

[Swaggs]

West Coast sucks! You guys have to wait... ;)

[Lorena]

I didn't read any of the bios but Jamie caught my eye, so I'm goin' with him.

[Joe]

show me sweet stephanie already!!

[Antmeister]

Damn it, I was hoping to see more minorities this year who are "hot", but I guess I will have to wait until next season. Why? I think there just might be just one this year.

[Lorena]

Yeah, where's the token minority?

I enjoyed Steph but I doubt she'll stick around; I'm sure no one on the show would want to see a previos Survivor win it all.

[FBPro]

Go Steph, glad to see her back again.

[TazFTW]

Go Hogeboom!

The team that lost the immunity challenge is doomed. I've already had enough of Steph.

Steph - "Finally I'm on a team that has as much heart as I do."
WTF?!? Steph meet TO, TO meet Steph.

[Raven]

I watched the preview show, and thought the first person I wanted to see go was that Female police captain. Then I watched the show and don't remember seeing her once.

[Subby]

Steph is a fucking goddess.

[rkmsuf]

she looks smelly

[Subby]

you look smelly

[Swaggs]

I was kind of surprised that it wasn't Bobby Jon that was voted off. They seemed to show him a lot during the show and that is usually a good indicator.

I'm going to root for Margaret this season. She went to WVU. And Danni looked a lot better than she did in those pictures. Too bad there is no beach (ie: swimsuits).

[FrogMan]

Burnett and his team always edit the show to give you a twist, so showing Bobby Jon a lot was almost an indicator that he wasn't gonna be voted off... I wasn't surprised they voted off the old dude though. You have to choose between keeping any young dude who's suffered cramps, or threw up in the treck to the camp, or the old man who just snapped his bicep (or whatever gave way in his arm)...

FM

[Raiders Army]

Go Hogeboom!

The team that lost the immunity challenge is doomed. I've already had enough of Steph.

Steph - "Finally I'm on a team that has as much heart as I do."
WTF?!? Steph meet TO, TO meet Steph.
That's great. I picked up on that as well and thought of a huge ego. I didn't connect her with TO though. Great, great, great.

[BrianD]

That's great. I picked up on that as well and thought of a huge ego. I didn't connect her with TO though. Great, great, great.

She isn't quite TO until she starts referring to herself in the third person. I think she is starting to buy into her own hype.

[kingfc22]

Very interesting beginning to this sruvivor. Glad to see Steph back. She is the best female competitor physically I can remember on the show.

That 11-mile hike just kicked the guys asses. Crazy seeing Bobby Jon almost black out.

And I'd go with Rafe for the token gay guy role in this one.

[korme]

It was very mindblowing to see Bobby Jon's eyes roll back into his head. wow

[Swaggs]

I think Gary may be one of my all-time favorite Survivors after the episode. :)

[Maple Leafs]

The Gary thing played out perfectly... they set it up beautifully in the last episode.

P.S. The only way it could be better is if Gary didn't speak and act exactly like Super Dave Osborne.

[TazFTW]

Go Hogeboom!

Can't believe Danni outed Gary. I mean I would think he was already retired and nigh forgotten when she was a teen. He's been going under a different last name on the show, so the only thing I could of is that she did a "where are they now?" on her show. Could be trouble if they're both around when the merge happens.

I think Judd has a pretty good gripe about Blake.

[Raiders Army]

Danni is freakin ripped. You see her abs?

[rkmsuf]

WTF is wrong with that Blake guy. He's at death's door everytime you see him and suddenly is like superman at the challenges.

Drama queen.

[FrogMan]

drama queen or as Judd said, rest all day, be nurtured all day and then you'll be able to give your 110% for the challenges...

FM

[sachmo71]

The Gary thing played out perfectly... they set it up beautifully in the last episode.

P.S. The only way it could be better is if Gary didn't speak and act exactly like Super Dave Osborne.


:D :D :D

[Swaggs]

The Gary thing played out perfectly... they set it up beautifully in the last episode.

P.S. The only way it could be better is if Gary didn't speak and act exactly like Super Dave Osborne.

I had been thinking Bill Walton, but I like Super Dave a lot better. Good call.

I love that the question was properly worded, so that he actually had to lie. If they would have said something like, "I thought you said you were a landscaper?" or "Are you an NFL quarterback?" he could have wiggled his way out. I'm not sure if he has actually lied about his last name, but I hope he has to at some point. In any case, the "Who? Me?" is a classic Survivor moment.

[Lorena]

Danni is freakin ripped. You see her abs?

Ahem... did ya read that Ant? Yes RA, she's freaking ripped! I'd kill for abs like that!

I love Danni calling Hogeboom out, "You're a linebacker Judd!"... that threw Hogeboom off his game.. absolutely CLASSIC!!

[Scarecrow]

Wow!

Danni can play BBall

[mauchow]

That was silly.

[General Mike]

Danni is hot

[SegRat]

Danni is hot
Oh hell yes

[Swaggs]

I really like the players this year. Danni is smoking hot...much better looking than her "glamour" shots. I really enjoy Gary, too.

[Raiders Army]

I don't know if anyone remembers, but Stephanie was freakin stooooooopid last season. She may be a physical machine, but she's as dense as a rock.

[CraigSca]

Kicking Brianna off last night was probably the most justified pick ever. She just stood there like a lump during the game.

[wade moore]

Kicking Brianna off last night was probably the most justified pick ever. She just stood there like a lump during the game.
Not beating her ass during the challenge was the stupidest move ever...

I just kept sitting there thinking "I'd be screaming my head off at her if I was there"...

[FrogMan]

Not beating her ass during the challenge was the stupidest move ever...

I just kept sitting there thinking "I'd be screaming my head off at her if I was there"...
Same here, I would have gone ballistic. To see her be with the other girl keeping a hand on her and she'd just stand there, I would have ripped her head off...

FM

[FrogMan]

I don't know if anyone remembers, but Stephanie was freakin stooooooopid last season. She may be a physical machine, but she's as dense as a rock.
that is very true. Give her a fight against a man before you give her a puzzle to solve... :D

FM

[TazFTW]

They brought back the wrong survivor. If Tom was in Guatamala, his team would have croc boots, crocodile meat, and that monkey would never make a sound again...

Steph is cursed. Boot the Jonah!

[ntndeacon]

They should bring back Ole fire face. Micheal from Austrailia

[FrogMan]

They should bring back Ole fire face. Micheal from Austrailia
yeah, that would have been cool. He was a player who saw his game shortened with an unfortunate accident. Who knows how far he could have gone...

FM

[ntndeacon]

Besides they would have pork now. KILL the PIG!!!

[FrogMan]

well technically, they probably would have killed a monkey more than a pig ;)

FM

[kingfc22]

That game looked like it would be fun to play and I would have probably pegged Brianna with the ball after the game. Can't believe she just stood in one spot and then there is Lydia who runs with the ball after they clearly stated in the rules that you could not do that. *shakes head in disgust*

[gstelmack]

He was a player who saw his game shortened with a stupid accident.
Fixed that for ya. He was busy being a moron, leaning over a fire while trying to stoke it to life...

[FrogMan]

good point. I stand corrected :)

FM

[TazFTW]

Where did Brooke come from? I swear this is the first episode you've seen her in.
Finally Jeff calls out the 'Jonah'. 4 for 27 (I think it was 27) in challenges? Bring in the backup QB!

This show is sooooo rigged against Gary. How the heck did Danni know he played QB at Central Michigan? She wasn't even born yet.

[kingfc22]

I was just waiting for Gary to step up in that challenge and hit the far target in one shot.

[TazFTW]

Yeah, I was expecting that too and then a cut to Danni looking at her tribemates with an "I told you so" look.

Gary kept his cover. Well played Gary. Well played.

[FBPro]

Nice mixing the tribes tonight, wasn't expecting it. Go Steph!!

[kingfc22]

Go Steph!!
I love Steph, but she just can't get on a team that wins. Not to mention, that her new team is at a severe physical disadvantage to the new blue team tribe (name escapes me right now).

I wonder what will happen if Steph and Bobby Jon are still around at the merge. That should create a nice dynamic.

[Raiders Army]

Where did Brooke come from? I swear this is the first episode you've seen her in.
Actually she was the one who directed her tribe during the blindfold reward challenge last week.

Steph is getting on my nerves.

Also, if I were Judd, I'd be pissed at Jeff for his comment at the end of tribal council last night. "Every time you switch allegiances, the harder it is for people to trust you" (or something to that effect). Thanks for pointing it out, Mr. Obvious.

[Fouts]

Actually she was the one who directed her tribe during the blindfold reward challenge last week.

Steph is getting on my nerves.

Also, if I were Judd, I'd be pissed at Jeff for his comment at the end of tribal council last night. "Every time you switch allegiances, the harder it is for people to trust you" (or something to that effect). Thanks for pointing it out, Mr. Obvious.

Sounded to me like he was refering to the tribes swapping players making it hard to trust anyone, rather than directed straight at Judd. I think they'll be swapping again before the merger, unless I got the hint wrong from Jeff.

[wade moore]

Sounded to me like he was refering to the tribes swapping players making it hard to trust anyone, rather than directed straight at Judd. I think they'll be swapping again before the merger, unless I got the hint wrong from Jeff.
Nono, that comment was clearly directed right at Judd... Jeff does this kind of stuff often, and many times I'm a fan, but this time it was very "prof. obvious"...

I'm getting very annoyed at how "strength-driven" survivor challenges have become... even when there's some "logic" challenge, it is preceded by a physical element.. there are rarely pure-thinking immunity challenges anymore... and that has driven it so that voting strategies are so obvious...

[rkmsuf]

the swapping is kind of stoopid game wise. you spend 10 days building your rep with your team and poof, no more team.

[Maple Leafs]

I'm fascinated by Stephenie's ongoing transformation into Terrell Owens. I say she's referring to herself in third-person by episode seven.

[Subby]

TO will never have a stomach like that.

Yum.

[gstelmack]

This show is sooooo rigged against Gary. How the heck did Danni know he played QB at Central Michigan? She wasn't even born yet.
She is a sports reporter (for a radio station, I think?).

[mauchow]

Yeah, she said she knew him because she's a fan of KC(or whoever he played for..)

[TazFTW]

She's a co-host of a sports radio program in Kansas. She's a fan of the Chiefs. Gary last played for the Cowboys in 1985, she was around 10 years old then. His last season in the NFL was 1989 for the Phoenix Cardinals, she would have been 14 years old (this based on her survivor profile saying she's 30).

Are you telling me she could identify a QB who hasn't played in 16 years?

Could you tell it was him when all he's said is his name is Gary Hawkins, landscaper from Michigan?

With this pic?

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/3830000_36_1.jpg


There's no way she can tell that Gary Hawkins was Gary Hogeboom.

[wade moore]

The only thing I'm thinking is she could have met/seen him in events since he played... whether it be charity events, tv interviews, whatever...

It could be rigged also, but...

[rkmsuf]

It had to be leaked. Someone else had said something about how he could be a linebacker or something.

It would be amazing that girl could come up with the fact he was a QB. Somebody said something. It's all too convienient that she is a sportscaster and that it can be explained she knows because of that.

[chinaski]

its Guatemala!

;)

[gstelmack]

It had to be leaked. Someone else had said something about how he could be a linebacker or something.
That was her who said that.

It would be amazing that girl could come up with the fact he was a QB. Somebody said something. It's all too convienient that she is a sportscaster and that it can be explained she knows because of that.
She's a sports geek and works with the press. I could see her knowing about him. It could be a plant, but I just don't see this as that far out there.

[chinaski]

That was her who said that.


She's a sports geek and works with the press. I could see her knowing about him. It could be a plant, but I just don't see this as that far out there.
Isnt she a Sports Radio Talk Show Host? I thought thats what flashed under her name last night... just checked the site, she is a Sports Show Host, she obviously knows who he is, hes so screwed. She even recognized him from his college qb days, ouch.

[KevinNU7]

That was teh best part "Weren't you the QB at Central Michigan?" "No. I went to Central Michigan but I didn't play"

Man, atleast say you went to a different college

[wade moore]

That was teh best part "Weren't you the QB at Central Michigan?" "No. I went to Central Michigan but I didn't play"

Man, atleast say you went to a different college
I had the same thought... much easier to defend if you didn't go there at all..

[chinaski]

That was teh best part "Weren't you the QB at Central Michigan?" "No. I went to Central Michigan but I didn't play"

Man, atleast say you went to a different college
lol, thats what i was thinking too. What 6'6 dude built like that goes to college and is not on a sports scholarship?

[Swaggs]

I think he actually played up until 1990, so she could conceivably remember him from her teenage years through interviews and such, if she is a massive sports fan.

Either way, this is one of the most enjoyable storylines that I can remember. I like both Gary and Danni, so it makes it even better.

[jbmagic]

it will benefit her to take the qb to the final 2 and then tell the whole jury about his days as a qb in the nfl.

[Ironhead]

Just a little insight to the Hogeboom getting spotted by Danni. I have read on another board from people who have actually heard Danni on the radio that her father was a huge Cowboys fan growing up. Also, most of the times these guys catch sight of each other before they ever end up going to shoot the show. She could have done a little research on him before getting to the island.

Or she might just be that good.

Or the producers might have given her the information.

Either way she needs to eat something. I think she is ridiculously thin.

[Mota]

I think that this swap really removes the integrity from the game. Not that Survivor ever really has any... I view it a lot more as an entertainment program than a true game. They just make and change rules anytime they want to make it exciting on TV.

That would be like an NBA game where the referee suddenly announces that it's full contact, and then 5 minutes later it's 4 on 4.

And onto the Gary thing, I think that he should have admitted he was in the NFL 15 years ago. I mean, how much money did they make back then? Certainly nothing like it is these days...

[wishbone]

If Gary says "I got my butt kicked, made fun of in the press and death threats to my family for 10 years because I wasn't that good and in my best year made 120,000 before the owner took his half to pay for the hotels and plane rides", he's in the clear. It's a much more believable lie and may negate the "NFL QBs all make $100 million" idea

[Rockstar]

Any tv tapon rag show where the host (who acts like hot shit but in reality couldnt last one week under the contestants conditions) can mind $uck someone into quitting in order to keep the popular honey around really doesnt mean much to me.
From what I heard about this season, it sounds like none of the new contestants have learned anything from the previous seasons.
Backstab Mother%ucker!!! Backstab!!!!!! Its always worked in the past. Lie! Cheat! Steal!!

[Raiders Army]

I, too, am annoyed by Jeffy and how he thinks he's hot shit. The good news is that I heard that he will not renew his contract once it's up, so there are a finite number of seasons we have left with him. I guess it's because he wants to spend more time with the chick he hooked up with on the show.

[Dutch]

For all it's weaknesses, it's still got a lot of enterntainment value. It's the only show on TV that my wife, my kids, and I all sit down to watch. That in itself makes it the best show on TV in my mind.

Now, if I can get the family to watch football and shut up about it at the same time, I'd be set. :)

[TazFTW]

Yay, Steph can shut up about losing now.

Cool that Gary was able to convince his tribe to make a vote that would even out the members of old/new Yaxha. Of course, Blake helped vote himself out with the bragging.

In the preview for next week's ep, it looks like Bobby Jon and Jamie are going to have an alpha male-off.

[mauchow]

In the preview for next week's ep, it looks like Bobby Jon and Jamie are going to have an alpha male-off.
That is so no Bobby Jon. What an idiot. I cannot see him as that kinda guy. He is definitely not the guy that was an all-athlete in high school. He wasn't the guy you want on your team in terms of a leader. I can tell he got a lot of what he has by hard work as an adult. LOL @ him being all manly with Jamie.

[Raiders Army]

Decent episode this week. I can't help but notice how much Probst states the obvious. "It was all your fault Jamie your tribe lost the reward challenge." No duh.

[NoMyths]

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=43587

[KevinNU7]

I'm wondering if the tribes get switched again next week and Boby Jon and Jaime are actually celebrating togther. I mean the way the two were chest bumping it looked like the lamest confrontation ever.

[finketr]

I'm wondering if the tribes get switched again next week and Boby Jon and Jaime are actually celebrating togther. I mean the way the two were chest bumping it looked like the lamest confrontation ever.

actually strike another contestant and you're tossed from the show.

see: survivor: pearl islands .. when someone voted for Rupert.

[TazFTW]

Damnnnnnnnn Judd. Just Damn.

Interesting twist to the immunity with the vote happening before they knew who had immunity. Didn't effect the outcome though.

In the preview for next week it looks like Gary has to defend his cover story again. Wonder what will cause it to happen, they bring in Peyton Manning and he says "He guys. Hey Gary Hawkins. :wink:"?

[kingfc22]

Damnnnnnnnn Judd. Just Damn.
No way he lasts with his mouth. He can't keep it shut.

[Fouts]

For all it's weaknesses, it's still got a lot of enterntainment value. It's the only show on TV that my wife, my kids, and I all sit down to watch. That in itself makes it the best show on TV in my mind.

Now, if I can get the family to watch football and shut up about it at the same time, I'd be set. :)

Same here, we all sit and watch it together. Good family show, as long as they keep the drunks (Judd) under control.

[Raiders Army]

Very entertaining. Judd just couldn't shut up in the council. I think that Margaret tried her best, but just baiting him wasn't good enough.

Interesting that Brian was voted off. They didn't devote too much time to that. And on the immunity challenge, it was pretty obvious Judd wanted Rafe to get immunity instead of Margaret and he played it off pretty poorly: "Damn, I can't believe I told you the answer." :rolleyes:

[wade moore]

Let me say first off that I still love Survivor and think it provides as much entertainment overall now as it did in the first season for me..

but this is the second season where they have done this stupid "Vote Off From Both Teams" crap... I think it is ridiculous that in this game you have to vote someone off even though you don't lose... I don't think it adds something good to the game and actually harms things overall..

Just my $.02..

But, beyond that, I agree that Judd is looking for trouble... of course his saving grace is that he and jamie are the only strong ones on that team... so, he'll probably last longer than he normally would...

[Raiders Army]

Let me say first off that I still love Survivor and think it provides as much entertainment overall now as it did in the first season for me..

but this is the second season where they have done this stupid "Vote Off From Both Teams" crap... I think it is ridiculous that in this game you have to vote someone off even though you don't lose... I don't think it adds something good to the game and actually harms things overall..

Just my $.02..

But, beyond that, I agree that Judd is looking for trouble... of course his saving grace is that he and jamie are the only strong ones on that team... so, he'll probably last longer than he normally would...
Agree with you completely for the Vote Off two people thing.

[KevinNU7]

I think the show would rock if they had a 16 person tribe and just started right off the bat with individual immunity challenges.

[TazFTW]

w00t! Gary made it to the merge.

[Raiders Army]

They should've voted off Bobby Jon. He's obviously a physical threat and the merge was coming up so they should've voted him off.

[wade moore]

w00t! Gary made it to the merge.
Could be a fun reunion show when they all realize he really was an NFL QB...

[Donnie Baker]

I would like to see them start out as one big tribe and then randomly draw teams for each immunity challenge. That would keep them on the edge as far as making alliances because they would never know just who they need an alliance with from one immunity to the next.

[TazFTW]

Gary made it to the jury!

The former Yaxha tribe is doomed. I hate the editing that the producers do. It actually looked like they would have ganged up on Jamie but noooo. Oh well, if Nakum's order stays the same then Bobby Jon is going next. I'm kinda hoping that Bobby Jon would just slug Jamie, maybe right after Jeff says he's the next survivor that has been eliminated.

I wonder why Gary was last on their hitlist, is Dani a bigger threat?

The hidden immunity is interesting. I wonder if the producers will show someone finding it or keep it a secret until the person reveals it at tribal.

Looks like Bobby Jon is next, unless the '6' decide to vote out a bad apple (Jamie/Judd) because they will still have a 5 on 3 advantage.

[Raiders Army]

Rafe was being very wishy-washy. It's a freaking game! Also, Jamie is probably the most annoying guy, but he's playing the game well. Combine being extremely annoying and telling the truth he could win it all. Being annoying could get him into the final 2. Telling the truth could win it. He's also pretty physical so he has a good shot of winning immunity every time.

[Dutch]

Jamie has a serious edge on the mind-fuck aspect of the game. He basically intimidates people into not voting against his tribe.

He's got them all wrapped around his sinister finger. He could go all the way, unfortunately.

[jbmagic]

its looks like stephanie and bobby john are in a secret alliance. they are pretending they dont like each other at all.

[KevinNU7]

If Jamie gets in the Final 2 he is going to be fucked.

Bobby Jon won't vote for him. If he gets to the final with Either of the Jersey people they will vote for the other jersey person. If neither of the Jersey people make it they will vote against Jamie because he must have broken his alliance at some point.

So I already see him having 2 maybe 3 votes against him

[Subby]

Jamie has zero chance of winning the million.

If I am Steph, I am keeping Jamie and Judd close to me, because those two present the best chance for her to win the money.

If I am Rafe or Zookeeperwithfakeboobs, then I am going to seriously re-examine where I stand in the alliance of 6 and look to either flip the game next week or at the very least vote off a physical challenge threat within the alliance like Jamie or Judd or Steph.

[Raiders Army]

I disagree with you guys. If Jamie makes it to the final 2, he's almost a lock to win...especially if he's with Judd, Steph, Bobby Jon, or Lydia. Why? Let's take a look at it.

1. Against Judd, he's an honest fella. He never flip flopped and while he may be a poor sport, he's always been a straight shooter about his alliance.

2. Steph and Bobby Jon. I don't think anyone would vote for them to have a second chance.

3. Lydia. There's no way she wins this. Even against Jamie.

That leaves Danni, Zookeeper, QB, and Rafe. I still think the QB will be outed.

[KevinNU7]

3. Lydia. There's no way she wins this. Even against Jamie.
That's some in depth analysis

[Raiders Army]

That's some in depth analysis
Thanx man. :D

[gstelmack]

3. Lydia. There's no way she wins this. Even against Jamie.
I have one word for you: Vecepia

[Raiders Army]

True, but I don't see her making the final 2. She's flying low right now, but eventually she'll leave. I'm guessing she'll probably make it to final 4 but not any further.

[wishbone]

My wife started making a case for Lydia to make it to the final 3 last night and I can see a situation where she does not get voted out as a threat, gets lucky at a fish throwing challenge and gets to the final 5 with Rafe, Judd, Steph and Jamie. If Judd, Steph or Jamie swings into an alliance with Lydia and Rafe thinking that she/he can win the challenge and take his/her pick into the final 2 they still have to get votes from a person that seems to have been very nice to everyone.

What probably happens is Rafe and Lydia try to flip something and get caught, then get voted out. Or Rafe flips back and forth so much he gets whiplash and is voted out in a fit of mercy by everyone.

[TazFTW]

Gary is the man! Too bad he didn't butt in when Judd was talking about not lieing (about the idol being on the ground). I still think Gary and Danni are dead in the water because it doesn't look like anyone in the 6 are going to switch. I also don't think either of them will be able to go on an immunity winning streak.

[Swaggs]

I was hoping Gary would play the liar card on Judd and save Bobby John. I'm guessing he is going to keep it quiet, but lobby to Rafe, Lydia, and Cindy that they should join up with Danny and him, so they could get rid of Judd, Jamie, and Stephenie, who are the three biggest physical threats.

[Maple Leafs]

My guess is that Gary plays the liar card next episode. Judd's "I never lie" speech seemed sort of out of place at council, which usually means the producers are dropping in something that will become important in a future episode.

[Raiders Army]

Uhhhh....why didn't anyone steal the immunity idol clue out of Judd's pocket while he was drunk?

[Kodos]

Uhhhh... Do you want to fish around in Judd's pocket?

[Raiders Army]

For immunity, sure.

[Raven]

Every Survivor season, there is a group that says they are going to stick together, and at some point, that falls apart. Was it two seasons ago that the all girls alliance got cracked before the final 4?

I think Rafe is the wild-card here. I think he'll get tired of Jamie and Judd's initimidating ways and save Danni and Gary next week. If they get rid of Jamie, they'll still have the numbers over Danni and Gary.

Cindy is this seasons token coat-tails rider.

voted off next week...Jamie

[Thomkal]

Gary's reveal of the immunity idol and the look on Judd's face afterwards just might be my all-time favorite Survivor moment. :)

[Dutch]

The one nice thing about Survivor has always been that fool-proof alliances, once they get to disproportioned (6 vs 3 or 5 vs 2) usually result in the weaker members of the big alliance realizing that they are next once the small group is history, and we've seen enough times that the weaker members of the "A" group split and join with the weaker alliance to pull the big voting surprise at immunity.

Hopefully the weak members of this tribe will pull their heads out of their asses before it's too late. I don't mind Judd, but Jamie creeps me out. That dude's got to go.

[Easy Mac]

What the hell is Surivor?

[Rockstar]

One thing that would make Survivor better is if they took a page from the show Lost and had a season where two seperate competitions went on at the same time. Meaning there were four tribes in seperate areas. The tribes competed two vs two until there were eight people left in each game. Then the twist was revealed to the Survivors: Your game is only half over. You now "merge" with the two other tribes for a 16 person free for all for $5 million dollars.
That and at least on episode of naked cheerleaders.

[Swaggs]

What the hell is Surivor?

No idea what you are talking about.

[TazFTW]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

Gary survives another day and it looks like we get a Judd explosion next week.

[FBPro]

Glad to see whacko-Jamie finally gone.

[kingfc22]

Glad to see whacko-Jamie finally gone.
He is the first person that I can recall that seemingly has lost it mentally.

[Raiders Army]

He was pretty funny at the end. "You blindsided me!"

Wasn't he asking for it? LOL

[Joe]

wow, an alliance breaking down? even if they eliminate judd, they still have the numbers. its just the weaker members of the alliance realizing they would've been next to go. if theyre smart theyll eliminate gary, judd, and danni next. but its survivor, so that won't happen.

[gstelmack]

I think that:

A) He was really starting to annoy the members of his alliance.

B) They didn't really need him to get to the end.

C) Stephanie made a power play to put herself squarely in control of the alliance.

Rafe is clearly in Steph's camp, Lydia seems to be tagging along with Rafe, Danni / Gary seem to have been backed into a corner and paired up, Judd just lost his biggest ally, and we have no clue where Cindy's allegiance lays.

So what do Judd and Cindy do next week? I say Judd joins with Gary and Danni, Steph pulls in Cindy, and we have a 3 v 4 going. I could see Steph trying to dump Judd next, then go after Gary, as Gary is just not winning immunity challenges right now.

[Raiders Army]

I agree with your assessment. Obviously, the alliance has been broken.

[Glengoyne]

I agree with your assessment. Obviously, the alliance has been broken.
I hope that is the case, but I'm not positive. I love it when it isn't just a straight voting process based on Tribal lines. Anytime the power alliance is broken makes for better TV.

[Subby]

I think this stays along tribal lines. Steph and Rafe are in control and probably saw their biggest threat in Jamie. They've done a good job making the numbers work for them so this was the perfect time to get rid of one of their own and start making their alliance more manageable.

I don't see Judd breaking away from Steph. She'll give him the assurances he needs that Jamie was a necessary sacrifice.

The problem with these dominant alliances though is that the people on the fringe (outside the central core) start wondering where they fit in the final four. That's when things start getting flip floppy. If Cindy or Lydia or Judd goes free agent, then things could shift.

And for the love of god, please show more challenges where dannie and steph slink through the mud. ;)

[kingfc22]

And for the love of god, please show more challenges where dannie and steph slink through the mud. ;)
Yes, now that was great TV. I wonder what Jamie was thinking when the teams were drawn because as soon as I saw Danni and Steph together I knew it was over. No way in hell that Lydia and Cyndi beat those two.

[Raiders Army]

I would've been pissed that Lydia was still around to make it such an uneven battle. Not only that, but her laughing and smiling while she took the blame for the loss would've pissed me off.

[FrogMan]

I would've been pissed that Lydia was still around to make it such an uneven battle. Not only that, but her laughing and smiling while she took the blame for the loss would've pissed me off.
outside of his mental unstability, why do you think Jamie wanted the two girl to finish the dang challenge??? I would have forced to walk that muddy path a couple more times...

FM

[Raiders Army]

outside of his mental unstability, why do you think Jamie wanted the two girl to finish the dang challenge??? I would have forced to walk that muddy path a couple more times...

FM
Yeah, that was pretty crazy. I'm guessing it's a gamesmanship thing or whatever. FWIW, he seemed pretty honorable but also pretty classless.

I wonder how he and Bobby Jon will get along hanging out waiting for the next person on the jury. Heh heh.

[Maple Leafs]

Based on how last night went, we're really now looking at three alliances. Danni/Gary, Judd/Cyndi and Steph/Rafe/Lydia. The orignal alliance has to be considered broken since Judd/Cyndi were left out of the loop on Jamie.

On the surface it makes sense for Judd/Cyndi to reform their alliance with the other three and just move on. But they should be careful about that -- it's pretty obvious that if that's the final five, Judd and Cyndi will be the next two to go. The same holds true for Gary/Danni if they join the group of three.

The power move here would be for Judd/Cyndi to team up with Gary/Danni. They have the numbers to pick off the other three. They don't owe them any loyalty anymore. And they could wind up in a final four that was evenly split into two groups, giving everyone a shot at victory.

Of course, the easier path would be to just lean on Lydia and get her to jump back to her original alliance. My guess is that's the way it goes, assuming Judd can keep it together long enough to not get himself kicked off the show.

[TazFTW]

The orignal alliance has to be considered broken since Judd/Cyndi were left out of the loop on Jamie.I don't think Cindy was left out of the loop since she voted for Jamie.

[TazFTW]

He is the first person that I can recall that seemingly has lost it mentally.
Janu

[Rockstar]

Janu was forced to quit by the host. This show needs a new host really, really bad. I have to laugh though when Jeff shows up for challenges dressed like he is on a big hunt when in reality he just stepped out of an air conditioned RV.

[Raiders Army]

The only way I see this show going really bad is if Lydia makes final 3 and then wins the stamina immunity challenge.

[Ironhead]

Matthew from the Amazon (guy who was constantly sharpening the machete with a crazed look on his face) really freaked out his tribemates. He said at the reunion that he was "just acting" though.

[Lorena]

A) He was really starting to annoy the members of his alliance.

Exactly, if someone asked me the same annoying question 7 times, I'd vote his ass out too.

I'm sure it was a sigh of relief to get him outta here.

[Joe]

Lydia being so worthless in the challenges just makes this part of her profile even better:


Morales works out regularly, including swimming three times per week. She describes herself as spontaneous, energetic and friendly, with a good sense of humor. She believes her personality and physicality gives her what it takes to be the Sole Survivor

[Dutch]

I was relieved when Jamie was voted out. I have to admit, I always end up rooting for the underdogs on Survivor. I'm pulling for Gary or Danni to win the whole thing. From the big alliance, I'm pulling for Steph.

Also, does anybody else think that Judd is really Hell Atlantic? Or is that just me? :)

[Glengoyne]

Janu was forced to quit by the host. This show needs a new host really, really bad.....
I think forced to quit is a bit much. Jeff was a bit aggressive with the questioning, and was pushing the "Stephanie will be a fan favorite" agenda, but really Janu wanted to go home. Jeff didn't force her, but he did open the door for her and invite to leave. I like Jeff.

[Raiders Army]

Also, does anybody else think that Judd is really Hell Atlantic? Or is that just me? :)
LOL. Didn't make the connection, but now I do. Yeah, I agree!

[Raiders Army]

I think forced to quit is a bit much. Jeff was a bit aggressive with the questioning, and was pushing the "Stephanie will be a fan favorite" agenda, but really Janu wanted to go home. Jeff didn't force her, but he did open the door for her and invite to leave. I like Jeff.
You're right, he didn't force her to leave. It was her choice; however, Jeff has a huge ego and some of his comments are wholly unnecessary.

On the flipside, I'll miss his voice during challenges.

[FrogMan]

I think forced to quit is a bit much. Jeff was a bit aggressive with the questioning, and was pushing the "Stephanie will be a fan favorite" agenda, but really Janu wanted to go home. Jeff didn't force her, but he did open the door for her and invite to leave. I like Jeff.
count me in the "I like Jeff" camp too. Yeah, he's getting to a point where he's so comfortable in his role that he pushes his questioning at time, but overall, I like what he's doing.

Regarding Janu, I was also under the impression that she really wanted to go home and that editing might have a bit to do with how it looked on screen...

FM

[Dutch]

LOL. Didn't make the connection, but now I do. Yeah, I agree!

:)

[new york accent]"Just shut up already, you're driving me insane with that crap. Jeez, man, just get out of my face with that. You just don't know when to shut up, man."[/new york accent]

[wade moore]

count me in the "I like Jeff" camp too. Yeah, he's getting to a point where he's so comfortable in his role that he pushes his questioning at time, but overall, I like what he's doing.

Regarding Janu, I was also under the impression that she really wanted to go home and that editing might have a bit to do with how it looked on screen...

FM
Agreed. I think the show will really lose a good dimension with him gone.

[Swaggs]

Assuming Jeff leaves after this season (or next), who do you guys think will replace him?

I would bet they will try to get by using someone like Colby (from season 2), or maybe a tandem of former Survivors.

[Raiders Army]

I thought I read somewhere that it was going to be a female host when Jeff leaves...and I seem to remember Tina Wesson's name (Survivor Outback) being thrown around.

[rkmsuf]

I thought I read somewhere that it was going to be a female host when Jeff leaves...and I seem to remember Tina Wesson's name (Survivor Outback) being thrown around.

If she gets it shut the whole thing down.

[wishbone]

Maybe they could change the direction of the show just slightly and get Ted Nugent to host.

[Raiders Army]

It'd be funny if Starr Jones was the host. Maybe she would lose some weight.

[BrianD]

count me in the "I like Jeff" camp too. Yeah, he's getting to a point where he's so comfortable in his role that he pushes his questioning at time, but overall, I like what he's doing.

Regarding Janu, I was also under the impression that she really wanted to go home and that editing might have a bit to do with how it looked on screen...

FM

According to the story I heard (might have been in an interview with Probst), the whole conversation lasted over 1 hour. Janu wanted out, but she wanted to stay on the jury. When she was finally convinced that she could vote herself out and remain on the jury, she did so.

[FBPro]

Mrs FBPro told me today that Judd was scheduled to be on some talk show this morning but showed up drunk so they canned him for today.

[wade moore]

If she gets it shut the whole thing down.
Shut 'R Down

[Joe]

Mrs FBPro told me today that Judd was scheduled to be on some talk show this morning but showed up drunk so they canned him for today.


How could he be on a talk show already? I thought they weren't allowed to do interviews until after they are shown to be eliminated on the show?

[TazFTW]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did like Gary finally outing Judd's idol lie and his comment about the other castaways wanting Steph's autograph. Not sure who to root for now, since I've been on the Hogeboom bandwagon from the start. I won't be Steph as she has gotten more and more annoying. Not Judd because man, he has been such an ass man. Not Cindy because who the hell is Cindy? Lydia has coasted but if she is able to turn the game then I'll give her props. Rafe and Danni are the only ones that have been strong and don't annoy me, so I wouldn't be upset if they make the final 2.

[gkb]

I hated to see Gary go as well. He lasted a couple of weeks longer than it looked like he would.

I don't want to see Steph or Judd win (man). I wouldn't mind Rafe, Cindy, or Danni...although my first choice would probably be Danni.

[korme]

Gary waited too long to pin Judd on the Idol lie. It's not like the survivors had time to rethink or restrategize, knowing Judd lied. Too bad, I was rooting for Gary. I guess I'll root for Danni now. Stephenie def. went from one of my top faves to bottom after her episode tonight.

gkb, that's a funny post, the part about Judd (man). haha.

[Joe]

its about time Gary got the boot

[Raiders Army]

I, too, am rooting for Danni. While I didn't particularly like Steph's attitude last night, I disagree with Lydia's "I deserve to eat" thing. She doesn't deserve shit and she's lucky to be there. It's her fault that Rafe, Cindy, and Jamie didn't eat in the mud challenge.

[CraigSca]

Lydia's self-righteous eating of the lentil soup when the other's got back from the waterfall was nauseating. Suck it up, Lydia. If you constantly bitch, people will get sick of you and vote you off because, believe it or not, you have little value in Survivor.

Stephanie really came across as the mother lion/hyena last night (especially her looking down from the ruins - it looked like the queen looking down at the peasants). I know their final four is going to make it - my only hope is that ANYONE other than Stephanie in that group of 4 takes the crown.

Oh - and Judd is just nuts - was GREAT to see him called out on a lie at the tribal council. To call out Gary on his background dealings was just shocking - it's how you play the game - it's freakin' Survivor, for crying out loud.

[Maple Leafs]

Tough to see Gary go, but more than made up for by him getting in the instant classic "You can all get her autograph after the show" line (and accompanying guffaws from the jury), essentially burying Steph's chances of winning this thing. Brilliant!

Count me as officially on the Rafe bandwagon. He just seems like a genuinely good guy.

[gkb]

gkb, that's a funny post, the part about Judd (man). haha.

Thanks, although credit where credit is due, I thought this:


Not Judd because man, he has been such an ass man.

Was pretty funny as well and that's really why I threw the (man) in there. :D

[saldana]

i just started reading this thread today because i have been a week behind until last night (TIVO), and i dont feel like going back over 200 posts...why are we talking about Jeff leaving the show?

[TazFTW]

His contract runs out after this season.

[Rockstar]

I hear Nick Lachey is looking for work.

[TazFTW]

"It's like eating 25 White Castle cheeseburgers, man" http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif

There goes the comedy from the show. I think it was a bad move by Steph as I would think she lost Judd's vote if she makes it to the final.

Cindy has a twin sister, eh? http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/naughty.gif

Danni did great at the auction. First the giant cheesesteak sandwich and then help with the immunity.

[dervack]

It's funny, because if Judd got voted off 2nd from last, Steph probably still would have lost his vote because he thinks it was her idea to vote off Jamie, when it was actually Rafe. And I kinda felt bad for Lydia that Judd didn't pick her to spend time with her brother, whom she hadn't seen in 2 years.

[Swaggs]

Danni is in a pretty good position of power here. She hasn't really lied to anyone yet and should be able to hold Lydia and Rafe together to get to the final three. She probably already has Gary and Bobby Jon's vote and the alliance of four will probably be pissed and not vote for Rafe if he makes it without them and it looks pretty clear that the remaining players do not think Lydia is deserving to be there.

Go Danni.

[Joe]

scumbags

[FBPro]

Still pulling for Steph..........

[Raiders Army]

"It's like eating 25 White Castle cheeseburgers, man" http://images.dvdtalk.com/images/smilies/lol.gif
I thought that was the funniest line of the show last night.

Did Danni make out at the auction or what? She had two items to eat, and got immunity. I told my wife that if it were me, I'd go for the food instead of seeing her for about 24 hours. #1: I'm playing a game for $1 million and it's down to the final six, so I need my strength. #2: I'll see her in about 10 days anyhow.

scumbags
LOL. I also thought it was funny at the end of the show when Judd said he never lied to them.

[Joe]

If I hear steph say "Oh my GAWD" again I just may lose it. I think she says that way more than Judd says Man

[Flame Eater]

Four words, boys. Just four words.

Cindy, Mindy, Playboy pictorial.

Thank-you for your time. Please carry-on.

[Maple Leafs]

I've officially moved from "annoyed by Steph" to "actively rooting against her".

The look on her face when Danni switched spots with her at the challenge, even though it was an obvious move... I mean, does she honestly feel like she's the only person allowed to try to win? Is everyone else just supposed to be actively helping her? I feel bad for her boyfriend, she seems like she has that pleasantly female combination of egomaia and paranoia.

P.S. Rafe may be playing one of the best games of Survivor I've ever seen. The guy is running the show in terms of strategy and winning all sorts of challenges, yet you get the feeling that nobody views him as a threat. This guy is going to sail to the $1 million if he keeps this up.

[Kodos]

I'm definitely in the camp that is rooting against Steph. She was so whiny last season about always being on the losing team (not to mention she always place the blame on someone else), and now that she is in a good position, she talks down to anyone who opposes her. Screw her. I want anyone but her to win.

I was rooting for Gary all along, but now I'm hoping for Rafe or Danni. Glad to see big idiot go last night. "I never lied!"

[Kodos]

Oh, and I love Jeff as the host. He kicks ass, even with his cheesy jetski entries on the final episodes.

[mauchow]

What about Jeff's entry on a helicopter when he's hanging off the side of it!

As for the episode... Danni almost played that move awfully. She should have just kept it until the final moment to make a switch, when she 100% knew that she would be out and one person had an extra move on her. Maybe she counted, but I doubt it. It was a good game nonetheless. Glad to see Judd gone, I felt kinda bad to see him go, but boy, he was a fool.

[Sublime 2]

I'm all for Rafe and Danni to win this, I think they've played the best games. Thank God Judd is gone, I rooted for him in the beginning but I'm happy to see him leave now.

[KevinNU7]

As for the episode... Danni almost played that move awfully. She should have just kept it until the final moment to make a switch, when she 100% knew that she would be out and one person had an extra move on her. Maybe she counted, but I doubt it. It was a good game nonetheless.
Word, and I would have tried to back someone into a corner while also backing yourself into a corner to screw both players and then made the switch

[gstelmack]

If Steph had just gone and talked to Judd, Lydia'd be at home right now. Judd could have said (without lying) "Look, Lydia was asking me about this stuff, and I wasn't just going to tell her she was going home. I was blowing smoke, that's it." But Steph is so paranoid she bought the bare facts without looking at the reasoning, and now she's lost her position of power. I think she's the next to go right now, as all it will take is Rafe, Lydia, and Danni, and now that Cindy has been blindsided by Steph it could easily be 4-1.

[Subby]

So - of the five left, who do you take with you to the final two? I have to think it would be Lydia. Maybe Steph because I see her having a hard time getting votes from the jury...

[Raiders Army]

So - of the five left, who do you take with you to the final two? I have to think it would be Lydia. Maybe Steph because I see her having a hard time getting votes from the jury...
Agreed.

Well, definitely not Rafe, Cindy, or Danni. They have been pretty honest and seem to be pretty likeable.

Lydia and Steph would probably be the best options.

[wade moore]

I think it has to be Lydia or Steph.. Of those two, I actually think I'd take Steph.

[Subby]

I have to be honest - I am already cringing, thinking about Judd's final two speech...

[wade moore]

I have to be honest - I am already cringing, thinking about Judd's final two speech...
And the final two won't have the guts to call him out. That's what will annoy me.

Mr. "I never lied".... what was that about "Lydia, I won't vote for you".. let alone all of the other lies...

[Raiders Army]

He said this morning that he didn't lie. From the survivorsucks ezboard:

Rene Syler: For the second time in as many weeks a member of Stephenie's once rock solid alliance was totally blindsided at Tribal Council. Last night it was hotel doorman Judd Sergeant who was shown the door.

<Tribal Council video clip>

Rene: Judd Sergeant, ewww, you were so bitter and so angry last night.

Judd: Totally!

Rene: How do you feel this morning?

Judd: Oh.

Rene: Still angry?

Judd: Still angry, of course. I mean, I'm not angry, I mean you gotta get over it, I mean, but, I was totally blindsided.



Rene: Who's responsible for you being here?

Judd: Umm, Stephenie. I mean, I was in a great, strong alliance with her. I thought she had my back and evidently she didn't.

Rene: Well, she likes you. She said just in that clip, "hey, I liked him and everything but he's not going to stand between me and a million bucks."

Judd: <shakes head> Well, that wasn't the case. I really thought that my alliance with her was tight as can be and evidently it wasn't.

Rene: I gotta ask you this because watching that clip, you said, "I never lied in the game", but you did Judd! You did lie! You told everybody that the immunity idol was where? You said it's on the ground. And where was it?

Judd: It was in the tree.

Rene: It was in the tree. That's a lie, Judd.

Judd: I can understand that but we're in competition.

Rene: But you said you didn't lie.

Judd: That's not really a lie, though. When you're in competition...I didn't take it as a lie. Everybody else looked on the ground, though. Except for Gary. Gary's the only one that looked up in the tree. So evidently it kinda worked.

Rene: I watched that last week at Tribal Council and you said, "Okay, I lied. I'm not a good liar." And everybody still went with their initial plan which was to vote Gary out. I thought for sure people would turn around and vote you out.

Judd: Good move by Gary but like I said, our alliance was strong. Me, Steph, Cindy and Rafe were tight. I mean, we were really strong. We played that card.

Rene: Did you know who Gary was.

Judd: I had no idea who Gary was.

Rene: And you're a football fan, right?

Judd: I'm a big football fan, a football player and I had no idea.

Rene: Didn't matter anyway, did it?

Judd: It got to a point where it was around camp that he is a quarterback and I just said to myself, 'well he's in my jungle right now, I don't care what he is.'

Rene: Lydia, last night, boy she was working you and working Rafe. She was all over that camp. You looked like you could barely stand her.

Judd: I...Lydia was working it. Lydia was supposed to go. She was the one that was supposed to get axed. I was saying anything to make her feel comfortable because our alliance had her going. I was basically saying anything to make her happy.

Rene: You won the Reward Challenge last night. You had an opportunity to bring your wife, who you hadn't seen in 28 days, out to camp.

Judd: 31 days.

Rene: You had the opportunity to bring some other Survivors' family members and loved ones out with you. You chose, Cindy and ahhh, who else...

Judd: Stephenie.

Rene: Stephenie's boyfriend. But your wife, she was al little bit spooked, wasn't she, from some of the sights and sounds at camp? In fact, that's our Survivor Secret Scene. Take a look at this:


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Secret Scene:

Judd: My wife, Stephenie's boyfriend and Cindy's sister, we were all just getting tucked in for the night. I wish a few howler monkeys would go absolutely berserk right now that way they can get a taste of what we've been sleeping in for 31 days. I'm waiting for that loud obnoxious noise to start freaking them out.

<everyone is sleeping, monkeys start howling, Judd's wife wakes up>

Kristen: I hear a monkey. I don't even know what I hear. I can't believe Judd can sleep through this. It's crazy.

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Rene: One episode in particular, in seemed like you lost a bunch of weight. How much weight did you lose?

Judd: I lost 45 pounds, total.

Rene: You look good.

Judd: I feel great. I mean, I feel great.

Rene: Except that you would have liked to have your wallet a little fatter?

Judd: Absolutely. I wish I was still in Guatemala right now, but...

Rene: Are you gonna speak to Stephenie at the reunion?

Judd: Ummm, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Like I said, I thought me and her were tight, I thought we were pretty good friends. I took her on every reward there was so...she blindsided me, backstabbed me. So we'll have to see how that works out.

Rene: Can you honestly tell me that you wouldn't have done the same thing?

Judd: I wouldn't have done the same thing. I wouldn't have done the same thing. Me and here were pretty close. We had a pretty close alliance. She had promised my wife that she was taking me to the final two. And here I am.

Rene: You valued that friendship and here you are.

Judd: And here I am.

Rene: Judd, it's good to see you, though.

Judd: Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Subby]

Stephanie made a huge mistake getting rid of him. I don't think she is smart enough to win...

[Joe]

anyone else noticed that over the 2 seasons she's been on, Steph has yet to win a solo challenge? Why do people think she's such a threat anyway.

[sachmo71]

Judd's wife isn't miss america, but he is playing WAYY above his league.

[Joe]

Judd's wife isn't miss america, but he is playing WAYY above his league.

About to say the same thing. Also, anyone notice his twin on his family video last night? I almost thought that Judd was in his own video.

[LloydLungs]

Man, great episode, man. I love it when Mark Burnett makes no attempt to hide the eventual boot through tricky editing and just tells a good story, man. There was never a doubt from the confessionals and the music and the general feel of the episode that it was leading to a blindsided Judd ouster complete with temper tantrum, man. I don't think such an editing tactic has been used since Roger's boot in Survivor Amazon, man, but it really paid off last night, man.

[mauchow]

About to say the same thing. Also, anyone notice his twin on his family video last night? I almost thought that Judd was in his own video.
Yeah, that's funny. I really thought it was him, and am convinced it was unless there is something that says that's really his twin. The guy had the exact beard as Judd. :D

[KevinNU7]

Man, great episode, man. I love it when Mark Burnett makes no attempt to hide the eventual boot through tricky editing and just tells a good story, man. There was never a doubt from the confessionals and the music and the general feel of the episode that it was leading to a blindsided Judd ouster complete with temper tantrum, man. I don't think such an editing tactic has been used since Roger's boot in Survivor Amazon, man, but it really paid off last night, man.
There are often episodes where they do this and then the vote is complete different. I've seen episodes where a person like Lydia would get voted off even when the whole episode was about another person's overconfidence

[Joe]

there are actually 3 twins on this show. Cindy, Judd, and Jamie all have twins. I don't know Judd's brothers name, but it can't be as bad as Jamie and his brother Ramie.

[Raiders Army]

there are actually 3 twins on this show. Cindy, Judd, and Jamie all have twins. I don't know Judd's brothers name, but it can't be as bad as Jamie and his brother Ramie.
OMFG. That's horrible. The parents should be shot.

[Joe]

ok, I just found out that Judd's brother is named Timmy

[wade moore]

As a twin, I find it obnoxious when twins start with the same letter.. when they rhyme, good lord help those poor children...

[Joe]

As a twin, I find it obnoxious when twins start with the same letter.. when they rhyme, good lord help those poor children...

So in your family, it's not Wade & Jade?

[SegRat]

Question? How is Danni playing a good game? She made a good move last night, but up to this point she has done nothing. Rafe is playing the best game. Possibly the best Survivor has seen. And as much as you guys are rooting against Steph, her game has been rock solid. She plays her popurlarity well. And now for the second time when others wanted to switch the game up and vote someone in the alliance out, she didnt even blink.

[Joe]

Question? How is Danni playing a good game? She made a good move last night, but up to this point she has done nothing. Rafe is playing the best game. Possibly the best Survivor has seen. And as much as you guys are rooting against Steph, her game has been rock solid. She plays her popurlarity well. And now for the second time when others wanted to switch the game up and vote someone in the alliance out, she didnt even blink.

It's all about Danni's abs

[SegRat]

It's all about Danni's abs
Hell Yes!!!!!

[Raiders Army]

Danni would look a lot better with about 20 more pounds on her (watching last night).

[LloydLungs]

Question? How is Danni playing a good game? She made a good move last night, but up to this point she has done nothing. Rafe is playing the best game. Possibly the best Survivor has seen. And as much as you guys are rooting against Steph, her game has been rock solid. She plays her popurlarity well. And now for the second time when others wanted to switch the game up and vote someone in the alliance out, she didnt even blink.

Well, it's very difficult to establish much of a game when your tribe is getting pagonged. Best you can do is play a great social game and make people like you enough so that you're the last one standing from the minority tribe, then see if you can make a move at that point. Though one could theoretically blame her for playing a part in her old tribe's losing ways, she seems to be making the most of what she has to work with, winning immunity when she had to and then coming up with a great scheme to bust up the ruling alliance. If she manages to maneuver to the end she'll have done a good job getting there.

I'd agree Rafe is playing the strongest game though. Steph is owning the game, but Rafe is stealthily owning Steph.

[Joe]

rafe is playing a good game, but it wouldve been cool to see Tom from last season own him

[sachmo71]

It's all about Danni's abs


I guess I'm in the camp that is not sexually aroused by seeing the entire shape of a woman's lower pelvic bone structure.

[Joe]

I guess I'm in the camp that is not sexually aroused by seeing the entire shape of a woman's lower pelvic bone structure.

that's a little odd

[sachmo71]

that's a little odd

thank you

[Joe]

;) nothing is sexier than seeing bones. don't let me near a graveyard

[Flame Eater]

Did I mention Cindy and Mindy earlier?

[Kodos]

I agree with Sachmo. Danni needs to start ordering a regular Coke with her McSalad.

[TazFTW]

Cindy needs to learn when to shut up. I don't blame her for taking the car but she should not have been rubbing it in when she got back. I did think Rafe went overboard with how generous he would have been in that situation.

Why is Steph invited to every dinner?

I now think Bobby Jon, Jamie, Judd, and Cindy are in the vote for someone other than Steph camp.

Danni has done a very good job up to this point. She's now jumped ahead of Rafe in terms of who I'm rooting for.

[Swaggs]

I think Stephanie goes home next time if she doesn't win the immunity.Rafe and Danni look to be tight enough that Rafe put himself on the line for her in this week's episode, and Lydia is all about self-preservation, so she'll almost certainly pile on.

[kingfc22]

Yea, Steph and Cindy should have gotten Lydia to vote out Danni. I'm this doesn't cost Steph the game.

[dervack]

Cindy needs to learn when to shut up. I don't blame her for taking the car but she should not have been rubbing it in when she got back. I did think Rafe went overboard with how generous he would have been in that situation.

Why is Steph invited to every dinner?

I now think Bobby Jon, Jamie, Judd, and Cindy are in the vote for someone other than Steph camp.

Danni has done a very good job up to this point. She's now jumped ahead of Rafe in terms of who I'm rooting for.

I don't know if I would say for sure that Cindy will vote against Steph. We only got to see 3 votes, so Cindy could be of the mind that the 3 were Rafe, Danni, and Lydia. Hopefully she's smarter than that. I really don't see Steph winning at all. Even if she gets to the final 2, it would be very hard for me to believe she would get enough votes. That being said, doesn't 2nd place get like 250k? Not a bad second prize. Also, FWIW, the next Survivor is this Sunday, the 11th. 2-hour season finale, and then the reunion.

[Raiders Army]

I hope Stephanie gets voted out next. And then Rafe and Danni in the final two. But for me to want that, that's not how it will go. It will probably be Lydia and Steph in the final two.