Where in Hell's Butthole is the New Game from Jim?

[Blackadar]

(rant on)

The NFL season is already going into week 7. The same with College Football. Halloween is almost upon us. The NBA is in preseason. Hell, even hockey has started again. Yet, no announcements.

I can hope that Jim's into his final push.

But with EHM already out and FM 2006 and Civ 4 due to come out soon, I'd like to know where to allocate my gaming dollars. This is in addition to me getting hooked on the rental of Jade Empire. That's also starting to look like a purchase.

(rant off)

No, I know Jim doesn't owe me (or us) a damn thing. Still, it would be nice to know what the heck is going on. Of course, FOF2004 was released on 11/14/05, so it's not uncommon for Jim to be well into football season before he releases something. Still, I do budget for such purchases and I'd like to know when and what to budget for money AND my time.

[GrantDawg]

When did Jim say he was going to release a new game?

[Schmidty]

What good does a thread like this do other than to make one look like an impatient little kid?

[JeeberD]

Blackie was one of the last people I expected to see that post from...

[moriarty]

(rant on)

The NFL season is already going into week 7. The same with College Football. Halloween is almost upon us. The NBA is in preseason. Hell, even hockey has started again. Yet, no announcements.

I can hope that Jim's into his final push.

But with EHM already out and FM 2006 and Civ 4 due to come out soon, I'd like to know where to allocate my gaming dollars. This is in addition to me getting hooked on the rental of Jade Empire. That's also starting to look like a purchase.

(rant off)

No, I know Jim doesn't owe me (or us) a damn thing. Still, it would be nice to know what the heck is going on. Of course, FOF2004 was released on 11/14/05, so it's not uncommon for Jim to be well into football season before he releases something. Still, I do budget for such purchases and I'd like to know when and what to budget for money AND my time.

I hear ya man. It's not even about gaming dollars for me ... I just know if i get into FM2006 and Civ4 like expected I won't have any time (or honestly any interest) to get into another game for like the next six months. Had it been released 2 months ago, when I was desparate for a 'hot' title I would have bought it in a second (having successfully avoided the Space Rangers temptation).

[Hurst2112]

next we will get a sticky about NOT posting threads like this. Probably something about being warned and then suspended or something. That would be funny.

[Klinglerware]

I do find it interesting that TCY hasn't been patched with the current season's schedules and conference alignments yet. That usually happens in September.

Very interesting, but could be meaningless...

[rkmsuf]

WAAAAAAAA where's my game. WAAAAAAAAAA



actually where is the game?

[Hurst2112]

I do find it interesting that TCY hasn't been patched with the current season's schedules and conference alignments yet. That usually happens in September.

Very interesting, but could be meaningless...

It's like a band that puts out a great album, then is fearful of the 'sophomore slump'. Toss out a few EPs(patches) and hope the public will salivate enough when the next release comes out...no matter how bad it is.

[Kevin]

Didn't you see Jim get all emotional about clutch hitting in a religion thread this week?

So if we combine God and baseball.....

Front Office Bud Selig to be released on the first day of spring training.

[Anthony]

i'll keep my comments to myself, i think people know where i stand on this.

[Schmidty]

i'll keep my comments to myself, i think people know where i stand on this.

Nope I don't. Should I?

[Anthony]

Nope I don't. Should I?

long story short - i don't agree with jim's philosophy on announcing games a week or two before they're due, just so he doesn't have to feel pressured to meet a deadline.

i'm just gonna read this thread, i don't want to get back into it. it's his company, it's my money. he's free to run his company howver he wants, i'm free to spend my money wherever i wish. it's a good arrangement. :)

[cthomer5000]

When did Jim say he was going to release a new game?There is a blurb on his website about how we should expect an annoucement in late 2005... so we've got that going for us.


What's next for Solecismic Software?
At this time, we're not ready to release information about our next project. Look for news releases on this web site later in 2005.

[sovereignstar]

Press F1.

Wait.. nevermind

[Bee]

While it doesn't really bother me, I can understand someone with limited gaming dollars not being thrilled by Jim's approach. With all the quality titles that come out this time of year, some people have to plan what games to buy and not knowing what (or if) Jim is releasing could put a kink in their plans. Jim has every right to run things the way he wants, but I think his customers have every right to rant about it as well...

[Ben E Lou]

While it doesn't really bother me, I can understand someone with limited gaming dollars not being thrilled by Jim's approach. With all the quality titles that come out this time of year, some people have to plan what games to buy and not knowing what (or if) Jim is releasing could put a kink in their plans. Jim has every right to run things the way he wants, but I think his customers have every right to rant about it as well...Jim made it pretty clear that steady sales drive his company, not week-of-release ones. If people have a limited gaming budget and/or limited time, they can always wait to buy FOF6/TCY2/FOB/whatever at a time that works for them, can't they?

[cartman]

I do find it interesting that TCY hasn't been patched with the current season's schedules and conference alignments yet. That usually happens in September.

Very interesting, but could be meaningless...

On this point he has already said in another post that it was a lot more programming to do this than it appears, and if it was a simple thing it would have already been done.

[Johnny93g]

i enjoy these threads.....even though i dont care about jim's next game, i want BBCF to be released soon.....ARLIE!!!!!!

[MizzouRah]

Now that I'm deep into my Arizona Cardinals franchise with Yabanci's roster update, I'm sure Jim will come out with FOF 2005 soon enough.

[gottimd]

Deep in the anal cavity, lodged in the colon.

[moriarty]

Jim made it pretty clear that steady sales drive his company, not week-of-release ones. If people have a limited gaming budget and/or limited time, they can always wait to buy FOF6/TCY2/FOB/whatever at a time that works for them, can't they?

Jim has a way of doing things that are best for him and his company, I don't have an issue with that. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's best for the customer or even for some of his loyal followers.

If someone has enough money to buy one college game and Bowl Bound or whatever comes out (with no word from Jim on whether there will be a TCY2) or not, he/she will probably buy Bowl Bound. Even if Jim comes out with TCY2 a few months later, the person already has a college game (and lacks the funds to buy every game that comes out). Next fall he/she is in the same position ... do you buy an old game like TCY (which may or may not get updated) or something new which you know is coming out.

Again, not begruding Jim but surely you can see where his policy may not be best for all consumers.

[flere-imsaho]

FOF2004 was released on 11/14/05

No it wasn't. :p

[Blackadar]

next we will get a sticky about NOT posting threads like this. Probably something about being warned and then suspended or something. That would be funny.

Why? I didn't post anything about a fake release or anything like that.

Everyone's allowed a rant now and then.

[GrantDawg]

There is a blurb on his website about how we should expect an annoucement in late 2005... so we've got that going for us.
You believe everything you read on the internet? :D

Look, just reading what Jim has written recently suggests that he has no plans to release anything, anytime soon. Go ahead and buy the games you want. If he releases something before you can afford it, at least you'll have the ability to wait for the first couple of patches to buy.

[Ben E Lou]

Jim has a way of doing things that are best for him and his company, I don't have an issue with that. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's best for the customer or even for some of his loyal followers.

If someone has enough money to buy one college game and Bowl Bound or whatever comes out (with no word from Jim on whether there will be a TCY2) or not, he/she will probably buy Bowl Bound. Even if Jim comes out with TCY2 a few months later, the person already has a college game (and lacks the funds to buy every game that comes out). Next fall he/she is in the same position ... do you buy an old game like TCY (which may or may not get updated) or something new which you know is coming out.

Again, not begruding Jim but surely you can see where his policy may not be best for all consumers.But aren't the vast majority of his customers not folks who would limit themselves to one college game? Heck, I'm in youth ministry. I'd venture a guess that I'm in the bottom 10% of the income bracket of his customers, and money has never been a concern when determing whether or not to buy a text sim. My available free time and perceived quality of the product make that decision for me.

[Bee]

Jim has a way of doing things that are best for him and his company, I don't have an issue with that. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's best for the customer or even for some of his loyal followers.

If someone has enough money to buy one college game and Bowl Bound or whatever comes out (with no word from Jim on whether there will be a TCY2) or not, he/she will probably buy Bowl Bound. Even if Jim comes out with TCY2 a few months later, the person already has a college game (and lacks the funds to buy every game that comes out). Next fall he/she is in the same position ... do you buy an old game like TCY (which may or may not get updated) or something new which you know is coming out.

Again, not begruding Jim but surely you can see where his policy may not be best for all consumers.

Yep, that's pretty much what I was talking about. Also, there are some who only play football games during football season. With all the other stuff coming out, they might not want to pick up a TCY2 or FOF5 after the football season when they can afford it again.

[Ben E Lou]

There is a blurb on his website about how we should expect an annoucement in late 2005... FWIW, that's not what that announcement says.

[cthomer5000]

FWIW, that's not what that announcement says.Could you be more clear? I'm not following you. I posted the actual statement in my post, so I'm not sure what I'm misrepresenting. :confused:

[Ben E Lou]

Could you be more clear? I'm not following you. I posted the actual statement in my post, so I'm not sure what I'm misrepresenting. :confused:Considering when that was posted, I'm not sure "late 2005" is an accurate representation of what he meant by that announcement. It said "later in 2005," which I'd interpret (at least when it was posted) as "some time this year."

[Ksyrup]

It says there will be news releases in late 2005. Nothing says that those news releases will have anything to do with the announcement of the next game.

[moriarty]

But aren't the vast majority of his customers not folks who would limit themselves to one college game? Heck, I'm in youth ministry. I'd venture a guess that I'm in the bottom 10% of the income bracket of his customers, and money has never been a concern when determing whether or not to buy a text sim. My available free time and perceived quality of the product make that decision for me.

I'm probably not the one to make a counter agrument on price, as I can afford to buy several titles (not like I'm loaded or anything). But if say 3 games are perceived to be of equal quality and I only have time to play 2 ... I'll probably buy the 2 that are out and play them rather than wait for a game that may/may not come out. And like Bee said, once football season is over I'm less likely to buy a college game ... rather I'll wait it out until next season.

Now if I knew TCY2 as coming out first week of November, I probably wouldn't invest time or money becoming deeply involved in Civ4 as I would know I would only have to wait a few weeks to see how TCY2 came out.

[cthomer5000]

Considering when that was posted, I'm not sure "late 2005" is an accurate representation of what he meant by that announcement. It said "later in 2005," which I'd interpret (at least when it was posted) as "some time this year."
Ok, so I techinically got it wrong. Since we're now in late 2005 though, I'm not sure my error matters much. Also, we have no guarantee that the "news releases" will be about game(s), although i have no idea what else they would be about. :shrug:

[WSUCougar]

Considering when that was posted, I'm not sure "late 2005" is an accurate representation of what he meant by that announcement. It said "later in 2005," which I'd interpret (at least when it was posted) as "some time this year."
...all of which strikes me as irrelevant, since it's now both "later in 2005" and "late 2005."

[Ben E Lou]

I'm probably not the one to make a counter agrument on price, as I can afford to buy several titles (not like I'm loaded or anything). But if say 3 games are perceived to be of equal quality and I only have time to play 2 ... I'll probably buy the 2 that are out and play them rather than wait for a game that may/may not come out. And like Bee said, once football season is over I'm less likely to buy a college game ... rather I'll wait it out until next season.

Now if I knew TCY2 as coming out first week of November, I probably wouldn't invest time or money becoming deeply involved in Civ4 as I would know I would only have to wait a few weeks to see how TCY2 came out.I guess what I'm saying is this: in all my history of text simming, there's only one game that I've never burned out on: FOF2K4, and even with that, I gave TPF a re-try after a bunch of patches. Gaming history, even with the good ones like FBCB and TCY, would suggest that at some point, even if BBCF is rock solid, that a time will come in March or April next year that I'm bored with BBCF, don't have any new games, and would buy TCY2 or Random New College Football Text Game to give 'em a shot.

[Ben E Lou]

...all of which strikes me as irrelevant, since it's now both "later in 2005" and "late 2005."..not if he just didn't update the web site. Also posted over there, you can find this...

THE FUTURE
As we enter 2004, the future remains uncertain. As I've reached six years "unemployed", I hope to continue to make Solecismic Software my career. Angela and I had a baby boy, Gregory, in March of 2003, and we're fortunate that the company has been successful enough to allow her to spend all of her time raising him.

[Ksyrup]

Read that blurb like we read the baseball union's press release on the timing of the release of Palmeiro's steroid test results. Both sentences, alone, are (or may be) factually correct, but together, they imply more than they literally say. He's not ready to release info on the new game yet. And there will be news releases later in 2005. There's nothing connecting them, though. The news release could be a December 2005 posting that simply says info on the new game will be provided in 2006, if the game is ready. He hasn't committed to a release in 2005, or even an announcement of a release in 2005.

[Warhammer]

Didn't you see Jim get all emotional about clutch hitting in a religion thread this week?


"Are you saying that Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball?"

[Solecismic]

I had a long reponse to this explaining my methodology about two or three iterations of this item before. Someone could cut and paste that response here. I'm sure it still applies. It would be easier if Weiner had just bumped the old item instead of posting a new one. That way my response would be front and center. But to each his own. Meanwhile, Ben has a good precis to that discussion.

[stevew]

I guess what I'm saying is this: in all my history of text simming, there's only one game that I've never burned out on: FOF2K4, and even with that, I gave TPF a re-try after a bunch of patches. Gaming history, even with the good ones like FBCB and TCY, would suggest that at some point, even if BBCF is rock solid, that a time will come in March or April next year that I'm bored with BBCF, don't have any new games, and would buy TCY2 or Random New College Football Text Game to give 'em a shot.
Me too, I'll still fire up 2k4 all the time, and it does never get boring. Especially if you approach a new career with new personal goals, etc.

[WSUCougar]

I had a long reponse to this explaining my methodology about two or three iterations of this item before. Someone could cut and paste that response here. I'm sure it still applies. It would be easier if Weiner had just bumped the old item instead of posting a new one. That way my response would be front and center. But to each his own. Meanwhile, Ben has a good precis to that discussion.
You're bluffing, you vomitous mass.

[Schmidty]

You're bluffing, you vomitous mass.

It's possible, Pig, I might be bluffing. It's conceivable, you miserable, vomitous mass......

[SackAttack]

It's possible, Pig, I might be bluffing. It's conceivable, you miserable, vomitous mass......

I'm only lying here because I lack the strength to stand.

[WSUCougar]

That's it, Schmidty...to the pain!

[Raiders Army]

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[gottimd]

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[WSUCougar]

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Even at my best I could not defeat that many.

[Bee]

I had a long reponse to this explaining my methodology about two or three iterations of this item before. Someone could cut and paste that response here. I'm sure it still applies. It would be easier if Weiner had just bumped the old item instead of posting a new one. That way my response would be front and center. But to each his own. Meanwhile, Ben has a good precis to that discussion.

I think there's a difference between the two threads.

The previous one was one discussing the opinion that your methodology hurts your business (which I happen to disagree with). This one seems to be more about the opinion that your methodology makes it difficult for some of your customers (whatever percentage that might be who have limited finances or limited time). I really don't think your response in the other thread addresses those issues. While the two issues are related, I don't see them as identical.

Edit:
Just to clarify...I don't think your methodology is a bad decision from your side. It's probably actually a good decision in the long run. But I can see how that methodology can have a negative effect on some of your customers (albeit probably a relatively small percentage as Ben suggests) and why some people will get annoyed.

[Ben E Lou]

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[QuikSand]

At least with the movie quotes this thread has become more productive.

[WSUCougar]

At least with the movie quotes this thread has become more productive.
...so clearly Jim cannot make his text sim in front of you.

[Raiders Army]

I find it humorous that recently someone (too lazy to look who) said that Blackie said waaaay back (about 5 years ago) that he had a big announcement to make and teased us then with a FOF-related release. Now, he's almost doing the same thing bitching about it.

[WSUCougar]

I find it humorous that recently someone (too lazy to look who) said that Blackie said waaaay back (about 5 years ago) that he had a big announcement to make and teased us then with a FOF-related release. Now, he's almost doing the same thing bitching about it.
...so clearly Jim cannot make his text sim in front of me.

[Hurst2112]

Why? I didn't post anything about a fake release or anything like that.

Everyone's allowed a rant now and then.

I wasn't gettin on you...I was poking fun at the aristocracy here. ;)

My birthday is coming up. Jim's games have a history of projected release dates around that time. (Nov. 1)

[Bee]

I wasn't gettin on you...I was poking fun at the aristocracy here. ;)

My birthday is coming up. Jim's games have a history of projected release dates around that time. (Nov. 1)

...so clearly, Jim can't make his text sim in front of you.

edit: Sorry Cougar, couldn't resist. ;)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

My dyslexia acted up and I read: Where is Hell's Butthole in the New Game from Jim?

I actually got excited that a new game was out.

[KWhit]

My dyslexia acted up and I read: Where is Hell's Butthole in the New Game from Jim?

I actually got excited that a new game was out.
And it didn't bother you that Hell's Butthole was left out of the game?

[dervack]

Hell's butthole? That's somewhere North of Milwaukee.

[gottimd]

My dyslexia acted up and I read: Where in Jim's Butthole is the New Game?
At least you didn't misread it like that.

[Hurst2112]

Hell's butthole? That's somewhere North of Milwaukee.


Yeah, NORTH Milwaukee

[WSUCougar]

You've heard of EA Sports? Sega?

Morons.

[sabotai]

Even at my best I could not defeat that many.
You seem like a decent fellow. I'd hate to kill you.

[John Galt]

You seem like a decent fellow. I'd hate to kill you.

You never said anything about killing anyone.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

And it didn't bother you that Hell's Butthole was left out of the game?
Quite to the contrary. He can leave East Lansing out and it will have no bearing on my purchase whatsoever!

[WSUCougar]

Anybody got a peanut?

[Hurst2112]

Quite to the contrary. He can leave East Lansing out and it will have no bearing on my purchase whatsoever!


OH!!!! 'SNAP!'

[sabotai]

Hell's butthole? That's somewhere North of Milwaukee.
Imagine you're in the middle of Milwaukee. And no matter which direction you drive, you're always in the middle of Milwaukee. No matter how far you drive, you're always in the middle of Milwaukee.

[John Galt]

Anybody got a peanut?

No more rhymes now. I mean it!

[Hurst2112]

Imagine you're in the middle of Milwaukee. And no matter which direction you drive, you're always in the middle of Milwaukee. No matter how far you drive, you're always in the middle of Milwaukee.

Imagine you're in the middle of Wisconsin . And no matter which direction you drive, you're always in the middle of Wisconsin . No matter how far you drive, you're always in the middle of Wisconsin .

don't, youre scaring us

[sabotai]

Am I going mad, or did the word "think" escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic land mass.

[Sidhe]

You all know he's working on it because he has to put food on his family. Isn't that enough?

Meanwhile I've played FOF2004 ever since I got it. Like Skydog, I keep returning to it..

I don't know if I really need a new one. Unless it has all that FM2006 stuff in it like player/coach interaction and little moving guys on the field..

[John Galt]

And remember this, never forget this: when I found you, you were so slobbering drunk, you couldn't buy Brandy!

[sabotai]

He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using.

[WSUCougar]

You are the brute squad.

[Solecismic]

You all know he's working on it because he has to put food on his family. Isn't that enough?


Kinda kinky, but I might try that some day. Well, I'll wait until the kid's asleep.

[John Galt]

I do not envy you the headache you will have when you awake. But for now, rest well and dream of large women.

[Ben E Lou]

Kinda kinky, but I might try that some day. Well, I'll wait until the kid's asleep.Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! :eek:

[John Galt]

Kinda kinky, but I might try that some day. Well, I'll wait until the kid's asleep.

Ah, it's kissing again. You don't want to hear that.

[sabotai]

I could do that. I have some rope up here, but I do not think you would accept my help, since I am only waiting around to kill you.

[WSUCougar]

Do you always begin conversations this way?

[John Galt]

Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning.

[sabotai]

You mean you wish to surrender to me? Very well, I accept.

[WSUCougar]

There's no more nobler cause than true love. But he didn't say that! He said "To blaaaaaaave..."

[sabotai]

The King's stinking son fired me, and thank you so much for bringing up such a painful subject. While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it?

[John Galt]

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

[mrsimperless]

I am sitting here staring open mouthed at the computer screen. I don't think I belong here as part of this community.

[WSUCougar]

Why didn't you list that among our assets?!?

[John Galt]

My way's not very sportsmanlike.

[Ben E Lou]

I am sitting here staring open mouthed at the computer screen. I don't think I belong here as part of this community.http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

[WSUCougar]

True.

[John Galt]

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif

I think he had a bad experience watching The Princess Bride.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I am sitting here staring open mouthed at the computer screen. I don't think I belong here as part of this community.
This only proves you belong more than any of us. Covered in chunky Jif.

Remember, choosy brothers choose Jif!

[WSUCougar]

Remember, this is for posterity, so be honest.

[John Galt]

I'm not left-handed either.

[sovereignstar]

This thread is turning gayer than the Akward thread.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I don't think I belong here either.

[WSUCougar]

Rodents of Unusual Size? I don't think they exist.

[John Galt]

This thread is turning gayer than the Akward thread.

You can die slowly, cut into a thousand pieces.

[SackAttack]

"To the pain means the first thing you lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then your hands at the wrists. Next, your nose."

"And then my tongue, I suppose. I killed you too quickly the last time, a mistake I don't intend to duplicate tonight."

"I wasn't finished! The next thing you lose will be your left eye,followed by your right."

"And then my ears! I understand, let's get on with it!"

"Wrong! Your ears you keep, and I'll tell you why: So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out 'Dear God, what is that thing?' will echo in your perfect ears. That is what to the pain means. It means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever."

[Crapshoot]

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

[Antmeister]

(rant on)
...Of course, FOF2004 was released on 11/14/05, so it's not uncommon for Jim to be well into football season before he releases something...

That's odd, it not even November 14 2005 yet. Are you suggesting this is when Jim will release the next game. Do you have some insider information or something.
:D

[sovereignstar]

Look. If we're gonna sit around here in our skimpies and boast about Princess Bride quotes, let's just start a new fucking thread.

[WSUCougar]

Look. If we're gonna sit around here in our skimpies and boast about Princess Bride quotes, let's just start a new fucking thread.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

This thread is turning gayer than the Akward thread.
Well, it is national coming-out day...

[Pumpy Tudors]

Look. If we're gonna sit around here in our skimpies and boast about Princess Bride quotes, let's just start a new fucking thread.
Is THAT what's going on here?

[sabotai]

Look. If we're gonna sit around here in our skimpies and boast about Princess Bride quotes, let's just start a new fucking thread.
Do you hear that Fezzik? That is the sound of ultimate suffering.

[John Galt]

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Continue with the operation; you may fire when ready.

[WrongWay]

THE FUTURE
As we enter 2004, the future remains uncertain. As I've reached six years "unemployed", I hope to continue to make Solecismic Software my career. Angela and I had a baby boy, Gregory, in March of 2003, and we're fortunate that the company has been successful enough to allow her to spend all of her time raising him.


I am always amazed when I read this. And, I wonder if Jim was retiring when he left the "employed" world behind? Exactly how much money could an older FOF and an ancient TCY bring in this year in 2005?

Some time I am amzed how much people can live on. I also know that Jim recently bought some new property and that probably can't be from his 2005 game money.

Maybe he needs to start thinking about a College fund for the little one. :D

[sabotai]

Just you reconsider playing that message for him! No, I don't think he likes you at all. No, I don't like you either.

[vtbub]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

[sabotai]

Worst. Thread. Ever.
You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.

[sovereignstar]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

And it's not even Friday.

[John Galt]

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

[vtbub]

You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate your life.

You got hard signing that order?

[John Galt]

I think it is time we'd demonstrated the full power of this station.

[sabotai]

That's no moon. It's a space station.

[John Galt]

Your powers are weak, old man.

[sabotai]

Mos Eisley spaceport. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.

[Galaxy]

I am always amazed when I read this. And, I wonder if Jim was retiring when he left the "employed" world behind? Exactly how much money could an older FOF and an ancient TCY bring in this year in 2005?

Some time I am amzed how much people can live on. I also know that Jim recently bought some new property and that probably can't be from his 2005 game money.

Maybe he needs to start thinking about a College fund for the little one. :D

And the pictures he posed of the new property and the cost of building a new house looked like it wasn't cheap.

[John Galt]

If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

[WSUCougar]

Worst. Thread. Ever.
On second thought, let's not got to FOFC. 'Tis a silly place.

[John Galt]

This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who.

[Crapshoot]

Just you reconsider playing that message for him! No, I don't think he likes you at all. No, I don't like you either.

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

[Crapshoot]

Not a bad bit of rescuing, huh? You know, sometimes I amaze even myself.

[vtbub]

After reading Arlie get taken to task because Bowl Bound was delayed due to the birth of his child and making sure the game works right, I certainly can see where Jim's philosophy comes from.

What I'd like to see is something on the vague side such as:

I'm developing a product. Working on a x timescale and as policy will release details after it is in late beta.

-or-

While many things are in the pipeline, do not expect a release of anything this year.

Hopefully it would give Jim the leeway to develop at his own pleasure and us stop asking every five seconds, "Is it out yet?"

Just my thoughts.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Not a bad bit of rescuing, huh? You know, sometimes I amaze even myself.
You need an analrapist.

[Schmidty]

Hey I love Princess Bride, but at least I'm not a Star Wars nerd.....

[Draft Dodger]

Hey I love Princess Bride, but at least I'm not a Star Wars nerd.....

neat. a gay guy who gets pussy.
interesting concept.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

neat. a gay guy who gets pussy.
interesting concept.
Who said he gets any trim?

[TargetPractice6]

This thread has gone from suck to blow.

[Draft Dodger]

Who said he gets any trim?

well, he's not a Star Wars nerd, so he's at least got a leg up on the rest of us.

[Dutch]

No... NO! That's not true! THATS IMPOSSIBLE!

[gstelmack]

This thread has gone from suck to blow.
Or maybe it both sucks AND blows?

[gottimd]

ahhajah gooja boooja gahabu tooomba mejaty chewbacca

[WSUCougar]

That doesn't sound too hard.

[duckman]

Yes, how selfish of me. Let's do all the things that YOU wanna do.

[Galaxy]

After reading Arlie get taken to task because Bowl Bound was delayed due to the birth of his child and making sure the game works right, I certainly can see where Jim's philosophy comes from.


Who are the idoits who took Arlie to task because of Farrah's and his baby being born? Some people need to be just shot.

[Dutch]

Who are the idoits who took Arlie to task because of Farrah's and his baby being born? Some people need to be just shot.

We live in the age of instant gratification....and rifles. :)

[Galaxy]

We live in the age of instant gratification....and rifles. :)


:D

[DaddyTorgo]

hell has a butthole? is it near the Atlantic? http://dynamic.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[JimboJ]

Back to the original topic for a second...

Someone needs to explain something to me. Here are two scenarios:

A) Jim doesn't release any information about what he's working on or when it will be released. People start a bunch of threads like this, wondering what Jim is working on and when it will be released, and complaining that he won't give up any information.

B) Jim comes here and posts what he's working on, and gives an approximate release date with the stipulation that it is only an estimate and subject to delay. The release date comes, the game is not ready, so he comes on here and posts that the game has been delayed and may not be ready for another month or two. Maybe two months later, it is still not ready, so he posts again that the game is still not ready, and may be delayed yet another month or two.

Ok, some people are never satisfied, and those people would complain about either of these scenarios. But from Jim's standpoint, how is either one of these worse than the other? If he choses scenario B, and the game is delayed, how does that hurt him? Sure he may lose sales from people who get tired of waiting, but he runs the same risk with scenario A. As has been pointed out, if people at least know the game is coming, they may postpone a purchase from of a competitor.

I think if he choses scenario B, and he at least comes here and gives a brief update every once in a while, I think that will keep at least 90% of us happy. If he choses A, it just leaves people in the dark, and that doesn't make anyone happy.

[Joe]

Back to the original topic for a second...

Someone needs to explain something to me. Here are two scenarios:

A) Jim doesn't release any information about what he's working on or when it will be released. People start a bunch of threads like this, wondering what Jim is working on and when it will be released, and complaining that he won't give up any information.

B) Jim comes here and posts what he's working on, and gives an approximate release date with the stipulation that it is only an estimate and subject to delay. The release date comes, the game is not ready, so he comes on here and posts that the game has been delayed and may not be ready for another month or two. Maybe two months later, it is still not ready, so he posts again that the game is still not ready, and may be delayed yet another month or two.

Ok, some people are never satisfied, and those people would complain about either of these scenarios. But from Jim's standpoint, how is either one of these worse than the other? If he choses scenario B, and the game is delayed, how does that hurt him? Sure he may lose sales from people who get tired of waiting, but he runs the same risk with scenario A. As has been pointed out, if people at least know the game is coming, they may postpone a purchase from of a competitor.

I think if he choses scenario B, and he at least comes here and gives a brief update every once in a while, I think that will keep at least 90% of us happy. If he choses A, it just leaves people in the dark, and that doesn't make anyone happy.

he probably doesnt want a project to keep getting delayed and delayed for 3 years like Frank and Nancy have done with Courtside

[JimboJ]

he probably doesnt want a project to keep getting delayed and delayed for 3 years like Frank and Nancy have done with Courtside

Yeah but if its delayed, its delayed. Isn't it better to know that its delayed than to not even know whether it is even being worked on?

[JPhillips]

He bought the game.

He knew the risks.

I say, let him wait!

[Schmidty]

This topic should become the new Threadkill.

[Izulde]

We would be living a lie. I can't do that!

[AZSpeechCoach]

I've got a bad feeling about this.

[Schmidty]

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Are you under a ladder?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

This thread has given me an idea.

How to find out information about Front Office Whatever: The Next Game:

1. We need a volunteer.

2. This volunteer must move to New Hampshire and assume a new identity.

3. His new identity will be a gay hairdresser. He will find a job at Mrs. Solecismic's hair salon.

4. He will then casually bump into her at the supermarket and strike up a conversation.

FOF Undercover: Ahhh! Girl, I didn't know you shopped here! When are you coming in again?

Mrs: Blah blah blah blah (woman speak, whatever they talk about.)

FOF: We should get together some day. You can come over to my house. Michael is never at home...

Mrs: My Jim is always at home.

FOF: He's not out of work, is he?

Mrs: No, he works at home.

FOF: What does he do?

Mrs: He is a game designer. Text based sims.

FOF: OH, I LOVE THE SIMS!!! I play it all the time.

Mrs: No, he designs sports games.

FOF: Oh. I'm not into sports. Any chance he's working on one for us girls?

Mrs: Not really. Right now he's working on _____________.

...and then, we will know the truth! At which point our secret agent will post the info on the board, and make the decision whether to return to his empty life, or continue his new, tastefully decorated life.

[DaddyTorgo]

This thread has given me an idea.

How to find out information about Front Office Whatever: The Next Game:

1. We need a volunteer.

2. This volunteer must move to New Hampshire and assume a new identity.

3. His new identity will be a gay hairdresser. He will find a job at Mrs. Solecismic's hair salon.

4. He will then casually bump into her at the supermarket and strike up a conversation.

FOF Undercover: Ahhh! Girl, I didn't know you shopped here! When are you coming in again?

Mrs: Blah blah blah blah (woman speak, whatever they talk about.)

FOF: We should get together some day. You can come over to my house. Michael is never at home...

Mrs: My Jim is always at home.

FOF: He's not out of work, is he?

Mrs: No, he works at home.

FOF: What does he do?

Mrs: He is a game designer. Text based sims.

FOF: OH, I LOVE THE SIMS!!! I play it all the time.

Mrs: No, he designs sports games.

FOF: Oh. I'm not into sports. Any chance he's working on one for us girls?

Mrs: Not really. Right now he's working on _____________.

...and then, we will know the truth! At which point our secret agent will post the info on the board, and make the decision whether to return to his empty life, or continue his new, tastefully decorated life.
priceless. had me in stitches laughing over here.

[Bee]

Now we just need someone that looks like a gay hairdresser...someone ping Cringer. ;)

[Airhog]

Back to the original topic for a second...

Someone needs to explain something to me. Here are two scenarios:

A) Jim doesn't release any information about what he's working on or when it will be released. People start a bunch of threads like this, wondering what Jim is working on and when it will be released, and complaining that he won't give up any information.

B) Jim comes here and posts what he's working on, and gives an approximate release date with the stipulation that it is only an estimate and subject to delay. The release date comes, the game is not ready, so he comes on here and posts that the game has been delayed and may not be ready for another month or two. Maybe two months later, it is still not ready, so he posts again that the game is still not ready, and may be delayed yet another month or two.

Ok, some people are never satisfied, and those people would complain about either of these scenarios. But from Jim's standpoint, how is either one of these worse than the other? If he choses scenario B, and the game is delayed, how does that hurt him? Sure he may lose sales from people who get tired of waiting, but he runs the same risk with scenario A. As has been pointed out, if people at least know the game is coming, they may postpone a purchase from of a competitor.

I think if he choses scenario B, and he at least comes here and gives a brief update every once in a while, I think that will keep at least 90% of us happy. If he choses A, it just leaves people in the dark, and that doesn't make anyone happy.


But what if Jim decideds to change projects mid stream? I remember him doing that once before I believe, Right before FOF4 came out if I remember correctly