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Flasch186
11-03-2005, 01:13 PM
Most of the blame could be pointed that way IMO



'Can I quit now?' FEMA chief wrote as Katrina raged
E-mails give insight into Brown's leadership, attitude

Thursday, November 3, 2005; Posted: 12:39 p.m. EST (17:39 GMT)



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Louisiana congressman says e-mails written by the government's emergency response chief as Hurricane Katrina raged show a lack of concern for the unfolding tragedy and a failure in leadership.

Rep. Charlie Melancon, whose district south of New Orleans was devastated by the hurricane, posted a sampling of e-mails written by Federal Emergency Management chief Michael Brown on his Web site on Wednesday.

The lawmaker cited several e-mails that he said show Brown's failures. In one, as employees looked for direction and support on the ravaged Gulf Coast, Brown offered to "tweak" the federal response.

Two days after Katrina hit, Marty Bahamonde, one of the only FEMA employees in New Orleans, wrote to Brown that "the situation is past critical" and listed problems including many people near death and food and water running out at the Superdome.

Brown's entire response was: "Thanks for the update. Anything specific I need to do or tweak?" (Copies of e-mails -- PDFexternal link)

On September 12 Brown resigned, 10 days after President Bush told him, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."

Brown took over FEMA in 2003 with little experience in emergency management. He joined the agency in 2001 as legal counsel to his college friend, then-FEMA director Joe Allbaugh, who was Bush's 2000 campaign manager. When Allbaugh left FEMA in 2003 Brown assumed the top job.

Before joining the Bush administration, Brown spent a decade as the stewards and judges commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association.

The e-mails Melancon posted, a sampling of more than 1,000 provided to the House committee now assessing responses to Katrina by all levels of government, also show Brown making flippant remarks about his responsibilities.

"Can I quit now? Can I come home?" Brown wrote to Cindy Taylor, FEMA's deputy director of public affairs, the morning of the hurricane.

A few days later, Brown wrote to an acquaintance, "I'm trapped now, please rescue me."

"In the midst of the overwhelming damage caused by the hurricane and enormous problems faced by FEMA, Mr. Brown found time to exchange e-mails about superfluous topics," including "problems finding a dog-sitter," Melancon said.

Melancon said that on August 26, just days before Katrina made landfall, Brown e-mailed his press secretary, Sharon Worthy, about his attire, asking: "Tie or not for tonight? Button-down blue shirt?"

A few days later, Worthy advised Brown: "Please roll up the sleeves of your shirt, all shirts. Even the president rolled his sleeves to just below the elbow. In this [crisis] and on TV you just need to look more hard-working."

On August 29, the day of the storm, Brown exchanged e-mails about his attire with Taylor, Melancon said. She told him, "You look fabulous," and Brown replied, "I got it at Nordstroms. ... Are you proud of me?"

An hour later, Brown added: "If you'll look at my lovely FEMA attire, you'll really vomit. I am a fashion god," according to the congressman.

The e-mails came from Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff, who oversees FEMA, following a request by Melancon and Rep. Tom Davis, R-Virginia, chairman of a House committee appointed to investigate what went wrong during Katrina, Melancon said.

Brown resigned amid accusations that FEMA acted too slowly after Katrina hammered Louisiana and Mississippi, killing more than 1,200 people. He defended the government's response and blamed leaders in Louisiana for failing to act quickly as the hurricane approached.

He acknowledged he made some mistakes as FEMA's director, but he stressed that the agency "is not a first responder," insisting that role belonged to state and local officials.

Brown could not be reached for comment Wednesday night on the e-mails and Melancon's charges.

Although Chertoff has not turned over all the documents requested by the committee, Melancon charged that the material received so far contradicts testimony by Brown before the committee in which he described himself as an effective leader. (Melancon's analysis of e-mails -- PDFexternal link)

Melancon used an e-mail sent September 2, four days after the hurricane hit, to illustrate his point. On that day, Brown received a message with the subject "medical help." At the time, thousands of patients were being transported to the New Orleans airport, which had been converted to a makeshift hospital. Because of a lack of ventilators, medical personnel had to ventilate patients by hand for as long as 35 hours, according to Melancon.

The text of the e-mail reads: "Mike, Mickey and other medical equipment people have a 42-foot trailer full of beds, wheelchairs, oxygen concentrators, etc. They are wanting to take them where they can be used but need direction.

"Mickey specializes in ventilator patients so can be very helpful with acute care patients. If you could have someone contact him and let him know if he can be of service, he would appreciate it. Know you are busy but they really want to help."

Melancon said Brown didn't respond for four days, when he forwarded the original e-mail to FEMA Deputy Chief of Staff Brooks Altshuler and Deputy Director of Response Michael Lowder.

The text of Brown's e-mail to them read: "Can we use these people?"

Melancon also charged that few of the e-mails from Brown show him assigning specific tasks to employees or responding to pressing problems.

On September 1, FEMA officials exchanged e-mails reporting severe shortages of ice and water in Mississippi. They were to receive 60 trucks of ice and 26 trucks of water the next day, even though they needed 450 trucks of each.

Robert Fenton, a FEMA regional response official, predicted "serious riots" if insufficient supplies arrive.

Brown was forwarded the series of e-mails about the problem, but no response from him is shown in the e-mails provided to the committee, Melancon said.

Katrina came ashore along the Louisiana-Mississippi state line, after being downgraded from a Category 5 to a Category 4 storm. It flooded 80 percent of New Orleans. It was followed about a month later by Hurricane Rita, which caused more damage and flooding.

Melancon and several other Democrats from districts directly affected by Katrina were invited to participate as a ex-officio members of the Katrina investigative committee, though they have no formal role. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi refused to appoint any Democrats to the panel after GOP leaders rebuffed Democratic demands for an independent probe.

This is the second time a congressional committee had dealt with e-mails relating to FEMA's Katrina response. A complete transcript of Brown's e-mail traffic during the Katrina crisis has not been released by the Department of Homeland Security.

rkmsuf
11-03-2005, 01:17 PM
Brown spent a decade as the stewards and judges commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association.

that's a post of enormous importance.

gstelmack
11-03-2005, 01:23 PM
All you can do from this is say "yes, FEMA blew its part and definitely deserves some blame". In no way does this absolve the state and local officials from their blundering.

JonInMiddleGA
11-03-2005, 01:31 PM
If you're looking for political points, there's probably some stuff to play with there.

But if you're looking for anything substantive about what did/didn't happen in N.O.:
{yawn}

Do you really want the head of an agency, any agency, micromanaging 1 truckload of supplies?

Do you really believe the head of any federal agency can overlook the role of "appearances", managing perceptions, etc.?

Given the media's attack dog mentality toward FEMA in the days following Katrina, do you really begrudge a little gallow's humor in an email?

Sorry Flasch, I really don't see anything here that's worth noting except as it concerns the politics of the situation.

Subby
11-03-2005, 01:32 PM
This will also be helpful when Brown's candidacy for International Douchebag Hall of Fame comes up in a few years.

Ksyrup
11-03-2005, 01:36 PM
I don't disagree that this guy was way unqualified for the job, but posting emails about his concern about attire or humor between work colleagues as some (or further) suggestion that he wasn't up to the challenge of this job, is beyond silly. We all make jokes, deal with personal issues even during times of crisis, etc. They don't need to point that kind of stuff out to show he was ineffective.

flere-imsaho
11-03-2005, 01:38 PM
Is there anyone here who doesn't think Brown was completely unsuited for his job, completely out of his depth, and that his lack of timely response to the news he was getting from his people on the ground had a demonstrated negative impact on the situation? No? Good.

The bigger issue is the appointment of unqualified people to important roles in government. It's done by Democrats & Republicans, from local to federal offices. Anyone want to disagree with that? No? Good.

If you want to attack Bush on this, then do it from this angle: this was supposed to be the "CEO President" and that's how the Republicans marketed him in 2000. Someone who would be accountability to government and "dignity back to the White House". As we know now, it's just business as usual with this Administration, so if there are any Republicans still on their high & mighty horses, I kindly request that they get down off of them at this point.

Flasch186
11-03-2005, 01:54 PM
If you're looking for political points, there's probably some stuff to play with there.

But if you're looking for anything substantive about what did/didn't happen in N.O.:
{yawn}

Do you really want the head of an agency, any agency, micromanaging 1 truckload of supplies?

Do you really believe the head of any federal agency can overlook the role of "appearances", managing perceptions, etc.?

Given the media's attack dog mentality toward FEMA in the days following Katrina, do you really begrudge a little gallow's humor in an email?

Sorry Flasch, I really don't see anything here that's worth noting except as it concerns the politics of the situation.


just pointing out to those who wanted to absolve the Fed. and pput most or all of the blame on locals that they are wrong and FEMA deserved a big heaping of blame to go along with that fries and coke.

JonInMiddleGA
11-03-2005, 02:02 PM
... and FEMA deserved a big heaping of blame to go along with that fries and coke.

You could try to prove that, I'll even acknowledge there's a possibility that such a thing could be proven ... but I see nothing in this attempted "email-Gate" that accomplishes that.

You're gonna have to do better than a handful of anecdotal emails.

The situation remains just as it has always been -- this is primarily the responsibility of the local & state government, which failed miserably & is now looking to shift that burden elsewhere (with no shortage of help from their friends in the media).

Flasch186
11-03-2005, 02:04 PM
You could try to prove that, I'll even acknowledge there's a possibility that such a thing could be proven ... but I see nothing in this attempted "email-Gate" that accomplishes that.

You're gonna have to do better than a handful of anecdotal emails.

The situation remains just as it has always been -- this is primarily the responsibility of the local & state government, which failed miserably & is now looking to shift that burden elsewhere (with no shortage of help from their friends in the media).

i dont need to prove it, id say everyolne except the most staunch can see what is evident that the Homeland Security dept. was unprepared and could not help when called upon by those who failed before them. I would hope that the Federal Government, the last bastion of hope, could come through....but alas.

sterlingice
11-03-2005, 02:17 PM
I don't disagree that this guy was way unqualified for the job, but posting emails about his concern about attire or humor between work colleagues as some (or further) suggestion that he wasn't up to the challenge of this job, is beyond silly. We all make jokes, deal with personal issues even during times of crisis, etc. They don't need to point that kind of stuff out to show he was ineffective.
I agree with this quite a bit. Brown was exceptionally inept and thankfully he's gone but a lot of this is just piling on. Yes, the guy needs to worry about what he wears to press conferences and shooting off an email that took all of a minute to write isn't awful. Also, if I were in that situation- ok, so it's been shown that he's a giant horses arse- but if I, or someone who wasn't a complete arse, were in his position, we'd need something to distract us a little bit of the time, otherwise we'd go mad. You can't be running on full in a high stress situation like that for an entire week- it would literally drive you insane, at least for a short time. Now, you could argue that it wasn't high stress to him becuase, as Subby so eloquently put it, he's a good candidate for the International Douchebag Hall of Fame, and he didn't care nearly as much as he should. But that's another argument altogether.

SI

Swaggs
11-03-2005, 02:20 PM
The democrats should embrace the word "accountability" and say it over and over again while running for office in the 2006 and 2008 elections. I'm sure they won't, because they like to flow from topic to topic while campaigning, so they can be everything to everyone, but I think if they focus in on a few items and pound them into voters' heads, they could make a big dent in the republican majority. Taking ownership of a "the buck stops here" mindset seems like it would be a smart strategy at this point.

Ksyrup
11-03-2005, 02:27 PM
I agree with this quite a bit. Brown was exceptionally inept and thankfully he's gone but a lot of this is just piling on. Yes, the guy needs to worry about what he wears to press conferences and shooting off an email that took all of a minute to write isn't awful. Also, if I were in that situation- ok, so it's been shown that he's a giant horses arse- but if I, or someone who wasn't a complete arse, were in his position, we'd need something to distract us a little bit of the time, otherwise we'd go mad. You can't be running on full in a high stress situation like that for an entire week- it would literally drive you insane, at least for a short time. Now, you could argue that it wasn't high stress to him becuase, as Subby so eloquently put it, he's a good candidate for the International Douchebag Hall of Fame, and he didn't care nearly as much as he should. But that's another argument altogether.

SI
This would be the equivalent of me having a big deadline to write a brief, and pointing to the fact that I responded to an email from my wife and asked what's for dinner, or commenting that I wish she'd shoot me in the head rather than me having to finish the brief, as evidence that I wasn't qualified to write the brief. That should be determined by the quality of the brief. And in this guy's case, it's pretty clear he couldn't write at a 3rd grade level (taking the analogy one step too far).

MrBigglesworth
11-03-2005, 02:48 PM
Do you really want the head of an agency, any agency, micromanaging 1 truckload of supplies?

Do you really believe the head of any federal agency can overlook the role of "appearances", managing perceptions, etc.?
If he has time to send multiple emails back and forth about his attire, he should have time to forward the email of the guy looking to make use of a truckload of supplies that could save lives. I'm not asking for that kind of dedicatin every day of a FEMA director's life, just one week out of his entire tenure.

CraigSca
11-03-2005, 06:05 PM
I personally blame Katrina for this. If it wasn't for this damn hurricane everything would be fine.

Flasch186
11-03-2005, 07:06 PM
The democrats should embrace the word "accountability" and say it over and over again while running for office in the 2006 and 2008 elections. I'm sure they won't, because they like to flow from topic to topic while campaigning, so they can be everything to everyone, but I think if they focus in on a few items and pound them into voters' heads, they could make a big dent in the republican majority. Taking ownership of a "the buck stops here" mindset seems like it would be a smart strategy at this point.

agreed

Buccaneer
11-03-2005, 07:56 PM
You put an incompetent dork like Brown in charge of FEMA, you get complete ineptness. You put the best guy in charge of FEMA and it would still be inept but not completely. FEMA's mission has always been and will be a coordinating agency of state, local and certain national resources. It's a bureacracy, people. I blame Chertoff (Brown's boss more), and Bush (for not taking more charge) and esp. that Congressman that sponsored and promoted Brown.

I have worked with FEMA for over 15 years now and currently a key team member on our local Emergency Operations Center. Among local officials and those who actually do emergency work, FEMA has been a running joke (esp. the way they manage FIRM maps). It's sad that people look to Washington DC for answers and high expectations when the solution is right in their backyard. Brown will go down as one of the most disastrous appts of all time - and deservedly so - but FEMA (and probably DHS) have and will be worthless in a real world sense.

Ksyrup
11-28-2005, 03:51 PM
I searched for a post about this, but didn't see one. Unbelievable!



Ex-FEMA Head Starts Disaster Planning Firm <!-- END HEADLINE -->
<!-- BEGIN STORY BODY -->Fri Nov 25, 9:31 AM ET



Former FEMA Director Michael Brown, heavily criticized for his agency's slow response to Hurricane Katrina, is starting a disaster preparedness consulting firm to help clients avoid the sort of errors that cost him his job.

"If I can help people focus on preparedness, how to be better prepared in their homes and better prepared in their businesses — because that goes straight to the bottom line — then I hope I can help the country in some way," Brown told the Rocky Mountain News for its Thursday editions.

Brown said officials need to "take inventory" of what's going on in a disaster to be able to answer questions to avoid appearing unaware of how serious a situation is.

In the aftermath of the hurricane, critics complained about Brown's lack of formal emergency management experience and e-mails that later surfaced showed him as out of touch with the extent of the devastation.

The lawyer admits that while he was head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency mistakes were made in the response to Katrina. He also said he had been planning to quit before the hurricane hit.

"Hurricane Katrina showed how bad disasters can be, and there's an incredible need for individuals and businesses to understand how important preparedness is," he said.

Brown said companies already have expressed interested in his consulting business, Michael D. Brown LLC. He plans to run it from the Boulder area, where he lived before joining the Bush administration in 2001.

"I'm doing a lot of good work with some great clients," Brown said. "My wife, children and my grandchild still love me. My parents are still proud of me."

QuikSand
11-28-2005, 03:52 PM
"There's no such thing as bad publicity."


Talk about putting an old saw to the test...

Raiders Army
11-28-2005, 03:54 PM
That takes balls.

MrBug708
11-28-2005, 03:56 PM
I'd say its safe to say now FEMA blew it

In other news

Washington elected President!
Columbus discovers America!
Germany invades Poland!

st.cronin
11-28-2005, 03:57 PM
Well, he *does* have some experience now.

Young Drachma
11-28-2005, 05:08 PM
The democrats should embrace the word "accountability" and say it over and over again while running for office in the 2006 and 2008 elections. I'm sure they won't, because they like to flow from topic to topic while campaigning, so they can be everything to everyone, but I think if they focus in on a few items and pound them into voters' heads, they could make a big dent in the republican majority. Taking ownership of a "the buck stops here" mindset seems like it would be a smart strategy at this point.

Yup.

But all that being said, I'm still uncomfortable with emails being released simply to not prove a point that had been made a long time ago.

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