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DeToxRox
12-11-2005, 02:14 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2255420


Ron Artest stunned the Indiana Pacers on Saturday by requesting to be traded, telling the Indianapolis Star that he believes the team would be better off without him.

Artest, who has missed the Pacers' last two games because of a wrist injury, told the Star that he doesn't like playing for coach Rick Carlisle and would prefer to be dealt to the New York Knicks.

"I think I cause a lot of problems here," Artest told the Star in a one-on-one interview Saturday; the story first appeared on the newspaper's Web site. "If the trade rumors, if there is any truth -- maybe it won't be a bad thing. They probably could win more games without me."

Artest said he wants to play in an offense where he's allowed to shoot more, adding, "If it was a perfect world, I would be going to New York."

Pacers chief executive Donnie Walsh was taken aback by Artest's request, saying the former All-Star and defensive player of the year had never raised such concerns with team officials.

"I've never heard him say anything before," Walsh told the Star. "He hasn't talked to me, and I see him every day.

"He can always come up and talk to me or [team president] Larry Bird," Walsh said. "From here on out, I expect Ronnie to be a professional. ... [This] isn't the best way to get a trade done."

"You never want to lose someone like that," Carlisle told the newspaper, calling Artest "one of the elite talents in the league."

One of the NBA's best defenders as well as one of the league's most combustible players, Artest set off last season's Pistons-Pacers brawl at the Palace of Auburn Hills by charging into the stands after a fan who threw a drink. Artest was suspended for the balance of the season -- 73 games.

"I still think my past haunts me here," Artest told the Star. "I think somewhere else I'm starting fresh. I'm coming in with baggage but people already know about it and how I'm going to be. Either they're going to be for me or they're not going to trade for me. Here I think my past haunts me.

"I think [Indiana] will be a better team without me."

Artest said Carlisle is a good coach, but criticized the Pacers' structured offense as too restricted for him.

"I'm so demanding of the ball. It's not my fault," Artest told the Star. "Every time somebody is on me it's a mismatch. It messes up the offense. I like Coach [Carlisle] as a person, but I don't like playing for Coach. I like my team, though."

"Don't get it twisted. He's a very good coach. He knows what he's doing. I personally don't like playing for him. I would not want to see him get fired for me after all the immaturity I've been through with this organization."

Artest, whose contract expires in 2008 and includes an $8.5 million player option for 2008-09, makes $6.5 million this season.

Crapshoot
12-11-2005, 02:15 AM
Seems as reasonable a trade request as can be...

Grammaticus
12-11-2005, 03:11 AM
Seems as reasonable a trade request as can be...
How about they just give him to the Indiana State Penal system?

cody8200
12-11-2005, 09:49 AM
Ugh...

terpkristin
12-11-2005, 10:19 AM
Is Drew Rosenhaus his agent? ;) :D


Oh wait, he didn't ask for more money, he just doesn't like Indiana. :D ;) :D

/tk

duckman
12-11-2005, 10:25 AM
Seems as reasonable a trade request as can be...
It would be more reasonable if he had actually made the request to the right people.

Tekneek
12-11-2005, 10:34 AM
It would be more reasonable if he had actually made the request to the right people.

It's not reasonable to go to the press first. That's a good way to make it impossible for Indiana to get a good trade.

miami_fan
12-11-2005, 10:46 AM
Since they have been trying to trade him since last year, I find it slightly disingenuous of the Pacers to say that he should have gone to them about a trade request. Yes, trade rumors are a part of the game and the league, but to say you were “shocked” by the request is a reach. Secondly, he is not the first player to have issues with Carlisle. I actually agree with most of his points. He is an offensive mismatch for most 2s and 3s in the league. Carlisle’s offense is very structured and leaves little or no room for improvisation (not necessarily a bad thing). The Pacers would not be a better team with out him though.

duckman
12-11-2005, 10:56 AM
It's not reasonable to go to the press first. That's a good way to make it impossible for Indiana to get a good trade.
Unfortunately, the salary cap restrictions that the NBA imposed on their team make it nearly impossible for teams not to get a "good" trade.

It'll be interesting to see how this transpire now that Artest has gone public.

PraetorianX
12-11-2005, 11:58 AM
What annoys me about this, is that he said he wants to go to the East Coast (Specifically New York)...and even said if he was traded out west, he'd just leave after his contract expires. (Note: That bit was in the Indianapolis Star)

It was already going to be impossible to get equal value in return, and now it's going to be even more difficult.

Anyway, the Pacers showed more loyalty and patients with Ron than he ever deserved.

Oh well, if we can get something decent in return, I think we'll be alright. Granger has had a couple good games recently, so hopefully he could continue to develope into a very very good starting #3 for us.

We actually might be able to get something pretty decent with Bender's contract and either Pollard or Cro, one of 'ems contract expires this summer. Though Cro is actually playing well this year, finally.

Though, if we were only to get Peja (as some rumours suggest) then I'd be very unhappy.

Anthony
12-11-2005, 12:42 PM
don't worry, w/ Isaiah Thomas running the Knicks he'll ensure that the Pacers make out big time in this trade.

Noop
12-11-2005, 12:49 PM
Is he serious? He is a buffon.

vex
12-15-2005, 08:44 PM
No Artest here



Hornets coach Byron Scott said he doesn’t want the team to deal for for Indiana Pacers guard Ron Artest, who has requested a trade and was suspended most of last season. “I always thought I could coach anybody. I don’t know about Ron, though,” Scott said. “Unbelievable talent, nobody’s denying that. I don’t want to mess up our chemistry. Ron Artest, as great a player as he is, he scares me ... He could mess up your whole team.”

miami_fan
12-15-2005, 08:55 PM
Something else that is new from the latest CBA. New being I had not heard about it before this.

http://www.nba.com/news/artest_051215.html

NEW YORK, Dec. 15 – Ron Artest of the Indiana Pacers has been fined $10,000 for making public statements detrimental to the NBA. The statements were made in an interview published in the Indianapolis Star on Dec. 11, and concerned Artest's desire to be traded to a team other than the Pacers.
"Public trade demands by players was a subject discussed at length during collective bargaining negotiations this summer," said Rick Buchanan, NBA Senior Vice President and General Counsel. "The damage caused by these kinds of statements was commonly understood, as was the NBA's intention to hold players accountable for such statements going forward."

This continues a trend of the league, not teams, disciplining players. In contrast, during the TO saga when Tags was asked what the NFL's response was, he stated that it was a team issue not a league issue.

Pumpy Tudors
12-16-2005, 12:01 AM
My only comment after reading this thread is that I had no idea that Byron Scott was still coaching the Hornets.

MikeVic
12-16-2005, 12:05 AM
My only comment after reading this thread is that I had no idea that Byron Scott was still coaching the Hornets.

I was trying to think who the Hornets would offer to make it worth the Pacers time?

Pumpy Tudors
12-16-2005, 12:09 AM
I was trying to think who the Hornets would offer to make it worth the Pacers time?
Well, there's always Baron Da-- wait, no... Jamaal Mag-- no... perhaps George Lyn-- uh. Bostjan Nachbar?

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