NFL: Divisional Playoff Round

[Logan]

I think that with this week over someone should get a start on a new divisional playoffs thread. The wildcard is done.

Proceed.

[Logan]

Dola...

Might as well kick it off with my picks:

Washington + 9.5@ Seattle (under 41.5)

New England @ Denver - 3.5 (over 43.5)

Pittsburgh +9.5 @ Indianapolis (over 48)

Carolina + 3 @ Chicago (over 31)

[Desnudo]

31 o/u. I wonder if that's a record playoff low.

[wade moore]

They give Washington 9.5? That seems high to me, but I guess it is a #1 seed against a #6...

[st.cronin]

Seattle 24, Washington 10
Chicago 23, Carolina 6
New England 28, Denver 21
Indianapolis 31, Pittsburgh 20

[PackerFanatic]

Seattle, Carolina, New England, Indy

That will be a good pair of championship games.

[PilotMan]

I hope that the result on Sunday looks like this, but I am not holding my breath....

2005 Pittsburgh Steelers at 2005 Indianapolis Colts
The RCA Dome
<TABLE class=scoreboard><TBODY><TR><TD class=header>Final - 1/12/2006</TD><TD class=header>1st</TD><TD class=header>2nd</TD><TD class=header>3rd</TD><TD class=header>4th</TD><TD class=header align=right>Total</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>2005 Pittsburgh Steelers</TD><TD class=score>10</TD><TD class=score>3</TD><TD class=score>14</TD><TD class=score>9</TD><TD class=score>36</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>2005 Indianapolis Colts</TD><TD class=score>0</TD><TD class=score>0</TD><TD class=score>0</TD><TD class=score>0</TD><TD class=score>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Play by Play: [ 1st Quarter ] [ 2nd Quarter ] [ 3rd Quarter ] [ 4th Quarter ]


<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 align=center border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=300><TABLE class=primary id=scoresummary><TBODY><TR><TD class=header colSpan=5>Scoring Summary</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=quarter colSpan=5>1st Quarter</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>5:09</TD><TD class=scoretype>FG</TD><TD class=desc>Jeff Reed 38 yds. </TD><TD class=score>3-0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>0:14</TD><TD class=scoretype>TD</TD><TD class=desc>Hines Ward 16 yd. pass from Roethlisberger (Reed kick)</TD><TD class=score>10-0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=quarter colSpan=5>2nd Quarter</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>0:01</TD><TD class=scoretype>FG</TD><TD class=desc>Jeff Reed 40 yds. </TD><TD class=score>13-0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=quarter colSpan=5>3rd Quarter</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>11:13</TD><TD class=scoretype>TD</TD><TD class=desc>Cedrick Wilson 2 yd. pass from Roethlisberger (Reed kick)</TD><TD class=score>20-0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>9:29</TD><TD class=scoretype>TD</TD><TD class=desc>Quincy Morgan 20 yd. pass from Roethlisberger (Reed kick)</TD><TD class=score>27-0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=quarter colSpan=5>4th Quarter</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>12:11</TD><TD class=scoretype>FG</TD><TD class=desc>Jeff Reed 34 yds. </TD><TD class=score>30-0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>5:43</TD><TD class=scoretype>FG</TD><TD class=desc>Jeff Reed 26 yds. </TD><TD class=score>33-0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=white><TD class=abbr>PIT</TD><TD class=time>1:12</TD><TD class=scoretype>FG</TD><TD class=desc>Jeff Reed 27 yds. </TD><TD class=score>36-0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top width=300><!-- TEAM STATS --><TABLE class=secondary id=gamestats><TBODY><TR><TD class=header colSpan=3>Team Statistics</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>2005 Pittsburgh Steelers</TD><TD class=sub>2005 Indianapolis Colts</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>First Downs</TD><TD class=stats>26</TD><TD class=stats>10</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>- Rushing</TD><TD class=stats>4</TD><TD class=stats>4</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>- Passing</TD><TD class=stats>22</TD><TD class=stats>6</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>- Penalty</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>3rd Down Eff</TD><TD class=stats>10/17</TD><TD class=stats>4/13</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>4th Down Eff</TD><TD class=stats>0/0</TD><TD class=stats>0/2</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Rushes-Yards</TD><TD class=stats>34-102</TD><TD class=stats>29-78</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Avg Rush</TD><TD class=stats>3.0</TD><TD class=stats>2.7</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Comp-Att-Int</TD><TD class=stats>25-45-1</TD><TD class=stats>13-25-2</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Passing Yards</TD><TD class=stats>363</TD><TD class=stats>164</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Sacks-Yards</TD><TD class=stats>2-9</TD><TD class=stats>2-8</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Fumbles-Lost</TD><TD class=stats>0-0</TD><TD class=stats>1-1</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Punts-Avg</TD><TD class=stats>2-42.0</TD><TD class=stats>7-41.6</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>KR-Avg</TD><TD class=stats>1-18.0</TD><TD class=stats>9-14.4</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>PR-Avg</TD><TD class=stats>7-15.7</TD><TD class=stats>2-9.0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Penalties-Yard</TD><TD class=stats>3-20</TD><TD class=stats>6-34</TD></TR><TR><TD class=title>Time of Possession</TD><TD class=stats>37:14</TD><TD class=stats>22:46</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=603 align=center><TBODY><TR><TH width=300>2005 Pittsburgh Steelers Individual Stats</TH><TD width=3></TD><TH width=300>2005 Indianapolis Colts Individual Stats</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=6>Rushing</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Att</TD><TD class=sub>Yds</TD><TD class=sub>20+</TD><TD class=sub>L</TD><TD class=sub>TD</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Willie Parker</TD><TD class=stats>18</TD><TD class=stats>70</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>13</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Jerome Bettis</TD><TD class=stats>12</TD><TD class=stats>36</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>16</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Ben Roethlisberger</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>-2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Verron Haynes</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>-2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>-2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=6>Rushing</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Att</TD><TD class=sub>Yds</TD><TD class=sub>20+</TD><TD class=sub>L</TD><TD class=sub>TD</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Edgerrin James</TD><TD class=stats>19</TD><TD class=stats>35</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>25</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Dominic Rhodes</TD><TD class=stats>6</TD><TD class=stats>30</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>18</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Peyton Manning</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>12</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>12</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 James Mungro</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Ran Carthon</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=7>Receiving</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Rec</TD><TD class=sub>Yds</TD><TD class=sub>20+</TD><TD class=sub>40+</TD><TD class=sub>L</TD><TD class=sub>TD</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Hines Ward</TD><TD class=stats>7</TD><TD class=stats>119</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>23</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Heath Miller</TD><TD class=stats>5</TD><TD class=stats>88</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>31</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Antwaan Randle El</TD><TD class=stats>4</TD><TD class=stats>55</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>19</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Cedrick Wilson</TD><TD class=stats>4</TD><TD class=stats>46</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>22</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Quincy Morgan</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>37</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>20</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Willie Parker</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>27</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>15</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=7>Receiving</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Rec</TD><TD class=sub>Yds</TD><TD class=sub>20+</TD><TD class=sub>40+</TD><TD class=sub>L</TD><TD class=sub>TD</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Reggie Wayne</TD><TD class=stats>5</TD><TD class=stats>73</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>38</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Marvin Harrison</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>39</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>16</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Dallas Clark</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>29</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>29</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Brandon Stokley</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>16</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>16</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Edgerrin James</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>15</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>7</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=6>Passing</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Comp.</TD><TD class=sub>Att.</TD><TD class=sub>Yards</TD><TD class=sub>TD</TD><TD class=sub>INT</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Ben Roethlisberger</TD><TD class=stats>25</TD><TD class=stats>45</TD><TD class=stats>372</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=6>Passing</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Comp.</TD><TD class=sub>Att.</TD><TD class=sub>Yards</TD><TD class=sub>TD</TD><TD class=sub>INT</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Peyton Manning</TD><TD class=stats>13</TD><TD class=stats>25</TD><TD class=stats>172</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=4>Defensive</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Tackles</TD><TD class=sub>Sacks</TD><TD class=sub>INT</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Larry Foote</TD><TD class=stats>7</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Chris Hope</TD><TD class=stats>6</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Aaron Smith</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Ike Taylor</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Joey Porter</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Troy Polamalu</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Brett Keisel</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Kimo von Oelhoffen</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Rian Wallace</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Deshea Townsend</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Ricardo Colclough</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Clint Kriewaldt</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 James Farrior</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Mike Logan</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 James Harrison</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Casey Hampton</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Andre Frazier</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=4>Defensive</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Tackles</TD><TD class=sub>Sacks</TD><TD class=sub>INT</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Bob Sanders</TD><TD class=stats>8</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Dwight Freeney</TD><TD class=stats>5</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Jason David</TD><TD class=stats>4</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 David Thornton</TD><TD class=stats>4</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Mike Doss</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Nick Harper</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Gary Brackett</TD><TD class=stats>3</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Montae Reagor</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Marlin Jackson</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Kelvin Hayden</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Corey Simon</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Larry Tripplett</TD><TD class=stats>2</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Gerome Sapp</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Gilbert Gardner</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Josh Thomas</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Robert Mathis</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Raheem Brock</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Cato June</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR><TR><TD class=name>'05 Von Hutchins</TD><TD class=stats>1</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD><TD class=stats>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top><TABLE class="primary indstats"><THEAD><TR><TD class=header colSpan=3>Field Goals</TD></TR><TR><TD class=sub></TD><TD class=sub>Made</TD><TD class=sub>Missed</TD></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR><TD class=name>'05 Jeff Reed</TD><TD class=stats>38,40,34,26,27</TD><TD class=stats>49</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=3></TD><TD vAlign=top></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<CENTER>Player of the Game:

'05 Ben Roethlisberger (2005 Pittsburgh Steelers)

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[Butter]

Hoping for NE @ Indy in the AFC title game... and for the Colts to win it something like 57-3.

[flere-imsaho]

Chicago 23, Carolina 6


Three defensive touchdowns and a safety. Sounds about right.

[jeff061]

Pats haters are more prolific than Pats supporters. Quite ironic, considering the common complaints of said haters.

[Butter]

Pats haters are more prolific than Pats supporters.

Doubtful.

[rkmsuf]

I don't see what's to hate about NE to begin with other than just not liking the team that's winning a lot.

[jeff061]

Well, it's my understanding it's all those apparently whiny and annoying Pats fans. Which is the ironic part.

[rkmsuf]

Well, it's my understanding it's all those apparently whiny and annoying Pats fans. Which is the ironic part.

bah, 3 superbowls after 30 years of misery calls for a little whiny and annoyingness.

[Butter]

I don't see what's to hate about NE to begin with other than just not liking the team that's winning a lot.

Belichick. That's what it is for me. But it gets even more annoying when the team with all the success asks you to come up with reasons why you dislike them. I don't really need any sound rational reasoning, now do I? I can just hate them just because I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. Or because I hate whoever ESPN likes. Or because it's sunny and 50 here today. Just because.

[st.cronin]

Belichick. That's what it is for me. But it gets even more annoying when the team with all the success asks you to come up with reasons why you dislike them. I don't really need any sound rational reasoning, now do I? I can just hate them just because I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. Or because I hate whoever ESPN likes. Or because it's sunny and 50 here today. Just because.

Tom Brady will take your virginity. And if you think you're not a virgin, you're wrong.

[jeff061]

Oh. Jealousy. Should of said so in the first place.

[rkmsuf]

Belichick. That's what it is for me. But it gets even more annoying when the team with all the success asks you to come up with reasons why you dislike them. I don't really need any sound rational reasoning, now do I? I can just hate them just because I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. Or because I hate whoever ESPN likes. Or because it's sunny and 50 here today. Just because.


I guess that was my point...that it was just because. That's fine.

[Radii]

Under 31 chicago/carolina looks like a good bet to me. Those teams aren't going to be doing that much scoring. If Delhomme doesn't turn the ball over it's going to be 6-3.

[WebEwbank]

The Pats will beat Denver. Jake will check his driver's license and revert to form. Brady simply doesn't make mental errors. Look for Colvin to get a sack or two and Watson to catch about six passes. Watch Richard Seymour plug ALL the holes. Hate us if you wish. On to Indy !!!

[Coffee Warlord]

Bears 62 Carolina 3.

We lose 21 points 'cause we don't got Ditka.

[bronconick]

bah, 3 superbowls after 30 years of misery calls for a little whiny and annoyingness.
Boy, if the Lions ever win anything, the whininess and arrogance of Detroit fans will dwarf the Pats fans current level. http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[Butter]

Boy, if the Lions ever win anything, the whininess and arrogance of Detroit fans will dwarf the Pats fans current level.

Not possible.

Witness:

Oh. Jealousy. Should of said so in the first place.

[aran]

Bears 62 Carolina 3.

We lose 21 points 'cause we don't got Ditka.


pish. I'll bet that the score is Chicago 1, Carolina 2. Horton will throw a touchdown pass so ugly that they'll just give 'em credit for the extra point.

[rkmsuf]

pish. I'll bet that the score is Chicago 1, Carolina 2. Horton will throw a touchdown pass so ugly that they'll just give 'em credit for the extra point.


Horton?

Dr. Suess?

[st.cronin]

Horton?

[st.cronin]

Maybe because he's always laying eggs?

[miami_fan]

I don't see what's to hate about NE to begin with other than just not liking the team that's winning a lot.

Well the Pats are a division rival. I am supposed to hate them! :cool:

[Desnudo]

Steelers' Porter doing a little trash talking before the game that the Colts offense is less than manly. My prediction now: Colt 80 - Steeler 3

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs05/news/story?id=2289603

[General Mike]

Go Gary Brackett.

[Travis]

Seattle 31 - Washington 20

Balanced offence gives Seattle their first playoff win since '84.

New England 20 - Denver 17

Vinatieri kicks a last minute field goal following a Plummer interception.

Indianapolis 27 - Pittsburgh 20

Tied at the half, the Colts settle down after an erratic first half for the win.

Chicago 17 - Carolina 16

Bears special teams touchdown and the holding Carolina to field goals wins the day.

[Daimyo]

Tom Brady will take your virginity. And if you think you're not a virgin, you're wrong.
This reminded me of the recent espn page 2 article about the Pats lack of respect...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/060109

4. Shave clean every day. It is disrespectful of you to think you can pull off the sexy stubble look as well as Tom Brady.

5. After lovemaking, apologize to your partner for not being Tom Brady.

[MIJB#19]

Seattle gets a scare against Washington. The 'skins offense actually shows up and plays a close game until they score less points in the second quarter. In a shootout score, the Seahawks dare to allow a last minute touchdown, but stop the two-point conversiob to win by a small 37-32 margin.

New England warms up for threepeat in Denver. The Broncos' running game is amazingly shutdown and the forced passing game struggles. The Patriots eventually look warned for their next hurdle, despite a late defensive score boosting the score to 30-16.

Indianapolis comes back from a four week break and has trouble against hot Pittsburgh. The Steelers manage to play it close, but in the fourth quarter the Colts are all warmed up and turn a half time deficit of 9-10 into a nice looking 33-23 win.

Carolina struggles early, but bounces back and upset Chiacgo on the road. The Panthers need a late field goal to come back from 15-3 behind to win 16-15.

[st.cronin]

This reminded me of the recent espn page 2 article about the Pats lack of respect...

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/060109

Good stuff!

[cthomer5000]

As much as I think they won't be able to pull it off, i'm really rooting for the Skins today.

[TroyF]

So let me get this straight. . . the Pats fans actions start and end on this board? I do know some snotty Pats fans. I think it's natural. You win a lot, people want to see you lose. Part of it that's always bothered me is the fact you don't have to hate NE to get thrown on the hate list.

Just say one negative thing about the team and wham, you hate their guts. "NE has had some fortunate breaks during their run. . ." YOU HATE THE PATRIOTS, YOU NEVER GIVE THEM ANY CREDIT, IT ISN'T LUCK, IT'S. . . The first statement never said anything about the team sucking, or Brady sucking or anything of the sort. It just said they've had some breaks.

The other annoying thing to me is many Pats fans fascination with proving Tom Brady is a living God and Peyton Manning sucks ass. Sorry. Peyton is a great QB who never had the defenses Brady had. Brady is a freakin unbelievable QB, one of the all time greats, a sure fire first ballot hall of famer and a guy we'd all love to have as our starting QB. But Manning isn't crap, he's not a horrible QB, and he will win a Super Bowl at some point.

Anyway, tonight shapes up to be a classic, classic football game. One for the ages. I think Denver finds a way to end the run, but it's not going to be easy and if Jake reverts to form the Broncos are screwed. The one interesting thing I'm finding while looking at previews of this game is the "weak" Denver pass defense.

It's not weak. It may get torched by Tom Brady tonight (because, well, he's Tom Brady), but the pass defense of the Denver Broncos is only ranked 29th because of yards allowed. Lets look at other ratings:

QB rating against: 72.2 (fourth in the NFL)
Yards per pass attempt against: 6.25 (fourth in the NFL)
Completion Percentage Against: 56.1 (3rd in the NFL)

Denver is only ranked 29th because teams have thrown more passes against them than any other team in the league by a wide margain. They've been thrown on 613 times, the next nearest team had been thrown on 580.

NE could easily win this game tonight. But if they do, it's more likely Dillon and Faulk gash the Denver defense for some early runs freeing up Brady to do damage down the field than it is Denver will just get torched by the Pats passing attack.

Going to be a fun game. Good luck to all of the Patriots fans, even the jerkwad ones.

[astrosfan64]

Dola...

Might as well kick it off with my picks:

Washington + 9.5@ Seattle (under 41.5)

New England @ Denver - 3.5 (over 43.5)

Pittsburgh +9.5 @ Indianapolis (over 48)

Carolina + 3 @ Chicago (over 31)


Washington +9.5

New England +3.5

Pittsburgh +9.5

Carolina +3


I don't believe the away team has covered every game ever in a playoffs. So, I'm destined to be wrong on probably two of them :).

[cthomer5000]

That was a nice MVP caliber play, Shaun. Seahawks will choke like dogs.

[st.cronin]

The other annoying thing to me is many Pats fans fascination with proving Tom Brady is a living God and Peyton Manning sucks ass. Sorry. Peyton is a great QB who never had the defenses Brady had. Brady is a freakin unbelievable QB, one of the all time greats, a sure fire first ballot hall of famer and a guy we'd all love to have as our starting QB. But Manning isn't crap, he's not a horrible QB, and he will win a Super Bowl at some point.

Peyton Manning blows, blasphemer. You will be smited. :D

[st.cronin]

dola

I didn't think the Seahawks would have any trouble with thie Skins, but the line was about 3-4 points higher than I thought it would be. Potential upset brewing here.

[tucker rocky]

Sea/Wash is beginning to look like a borefest.

[tucker rocky]

Nice TD catch by Jackson.

[tucker rocky]

I see how many people are interested in this game. :D

[cthomer5000]

boring, boring, boring game.

[st.cronin]

It beats figure-skating.

[Desnudo]

So let me get this straight. . . the Pats fans actions start and end on this board?

Eh, what are you on about?

[TroyF]

Eh, what are you on about?


ummm,ok.
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Seahawks aren't going to lose this game. It is boring as hell to watch though.

[Desnudo]

ummm, care to explain that statement?

[tucker rocky]

Hasn't been one interesting PO game yet.

All have been either borefests or cakewalks.

[st.cronin]

Jake Plummer looks stoned.

[vtbub]

Explain again why the NFL is the most popular sport?

[cthomer5000]

Jake Plummer looks stoned.
I have a cardinal rule of sports betting. Always bet against the guy with a hobo beard. Plummer absolutely qualifies. He's one bad outfit from being mistaken for a bum.

[st.cronin]

I have a cardinal rule of sports betting. Always bet against the guy with a hobo beard. Plummer absolutely qualifies. He's one bad outfit from being mistaken for a bum.

I'm surprised security even lets him into the stadium looking like that.

[Karlifornia]

Anybody see that little highlight reel of the first half set to music? You can tell it was supposed be longer, but what were they gonna show? An incomplete pass?

[Karlifornia]

Dola-

In that raincoat, Tony Siragusa looks like a huge baby.

[st.cronin]

The Seahawks are just a couple of injuries away from a run-time error.

[TroyF]

I have a cardinal rule of sports betting. Always bet against the guy with a hobo beard. Plummer absolutely qualifies. He's one bad outfit from being mistaken for a bum.


Last year he actually looked normal most of the year and sucked. If him looking like a drunk makes him not throw like one, I'm a happy camper.

As for your rule, you'd have lost 11 of your 16 Broncos bets this year, won 4 and tied once. :)

[miami_fan]

Last year he actually looked normal most of the year and sucked. If him looking like a drunk makes him not throw like one, I'm a happy camper.

As for your rule, you'd have lost 11 of your 16 Broncos bets this year, won 4 and tied once. :)

Is he still growing that "thing" in memory of Pat Tillman?

[TroyF]

Is he still growing that "thing" in memory of Pat Tillman?


No, I think he's growing it because he's an idiot. But again, as long as the idiot plays well, nobody in Denver will care. OK, so long as he doesn't suck horrificly and lose us the game nobody will care.

[st.cronin]

That has to have been the luckiest touchdown ever.

[Karlifornia]

Uh-oh.

I was kind of hoping for a Jax/Sea Super Bowl, so Josh Scobee could kick it to Josh Scobey.

[Vince]

Wow...I can't believe Hall missed that.

[Radii]

wide left! Comeon Redskins.

[cthomer5000]

John hall has always sucked balls. I was so happy when he left New York.

[Rizon]

I think the Redskins had only 4 men on the field during that big run.

[st.cronin]

A very exciting game for gamblers.

[Vince]

Jesus, Santana Moss is fast off the line. On the West Coast, I don't get to see the 'skins play much -- that last replay just blew me away with how quickly he was at top speed.

[Desnudo]

Did Jimmy Johnson run out of hairspray? His hair is looking very casual.

[astrosfan64]

A very exciting game for gamblers.

:(

[Desnudo]

Dillon still doesn't seem to be there. No push in his legs, he seems indifferent.

[TroyF]

Has only had the push in limited spurts this year. I'm much more worried about Faulk tonight. Not that Dillon can't hurt Denver, but Faulk is the guy who hits the hole quicker and harder right now.

Defenses win first round for each team, with penalties being a factor.

[TroyF]

OK, Brady crying to the refs is already getting old, there was nothing dirty about that hit in the least.

[st.cronin]

Big 4th and 1 here.

[st.cronin]

oof ... ballsy playcall

[vtbub]

Wonderful Call, not.

[Desnudo]

Ugh

[Desnudo]

Wonderful Call, not.

The play was there, Brady didn't hit it.

[TroyF]

Denver just battering Brady, hitting him everytime he passes.

He's going to kill them with some huge plays later, but I think they have to keep going after him. It's almost like the old Nebraska option play when Crouch was the QB. If you kept hitting him, you'd eventually get killed with a pitch to the RB, but if you didn't hit him, he'd just tear you apart.

Keep hitting him and take your chances boys. Hopefully you'll make enough big plays to offset the times he's going to catch you. Big possession for Denver here. They can't go three and out again.

[Desnudo]

The Pats might want to note that Lynch is running in free every time they blitz

[TroyF]

Simms is an idiot. The first 15 plays are scripted. This was a gameplan decision, not a first series one.

Nice throw Jake. . . God, wide open, perfect protection. Plays like that kill you against this team.

[Pumpy Tudors]

DAAAAAAYNE. I WANT DAAAAAAAAAAAYNE.

[Desnudo]

Brady needs to stop being mini-Payton and go with the base call.

[st.cronin]

Either one of these teams would whip Seattle.

[Desnudo]

I think the Broncos, Pats, or Colts would all win the Superbowl. And the Steelers probably would.

[st.cronin]

Pop quiz hotshot - 4th and 1 at the 4 yard line, at home against the 2-time super bowl champs - WHAT DO YOU DO?

[TroyF]

Pop quiz hotshot - 4th and 1 at the 4 yard line, at home against the 2-time super bowl champs - WHAT DO YOU DO?


Easy call. You go for it.

You HAVE to go for it.

But you run a rollout play with Plummer or you run it, you don't throw a play that hasn't worked all year.

[Desnudo]

Yes, run, run, run.

[GrantDawg]

Easy call. You go for it.

You HAVE to go for it.

But you run a rollout play with Plummer or you run it, you don't throw a play that hasn't worked all year.

Agreed. Bad play call.

[Desnudo]

Brady really needs to stop changing it up so much. It's killing them on penalties.

[DaddyTorgo]

shitty patriots. really shitty

[DaddyTorgo]

that's a huge break if it's ruled an INT (as it looks it should be). Pats have not played well AT ALL so far.

[Desnudo]

How do you call that out to start? Man.

[Easy Mac]

Nice to see champ bailey returning to form.

[st.cronin]

No, no, no. In the NFL, in the 1st Quarter, you ALWAYS take the figgy. The percentages just aren't there. At the high school or college level, or if your kicker is Jose Cortez, you go for it.

[Easy Mac]

i think the beard is getting in Plummer's eyes.

[GrantDawg]

Plummer looks bad.

[Desnudo]

Dwight fair catching on the 6?

[Karlifornia]

Wow he waited forever to throw the PI flag

[Craptacular]

That was a bad call.

[DaddyTorgo]

oh that's a BULLSHIT call. fucking A!

[Desnudo]

Bullshit. Should have been called on Lelie.

[SirFozzie]

Wow. what a horrid call.

[st.cronin]

The Patriots are not allowed to cover recievers. That's been an NFL rule for a couple of years now.

[Karlifornia]

Jesus the cheerleaders didn't get a break in the uniforms department. BRRR!

[Desnudo]

How does the ref standing right there not overrule that call?

[TroyF]

That was a bad call.

A very bad call. Watching it in realtime, I thought it was PI. I thought he cut off the route.

On replay, it was clear, it was no penalty. Horrible call. Simply horrible.

Denver got away with one there. Bigtime.

A side note: Where the hell was that play on 3rd and 4th and 1 earlier in the game?

[st.cronin]

Game on, baby. Now it begins.

[DaddyTorgo]

How does the ref standing right there not overrule that call?cuz he has no sac

[Craptacular]

Wow, nice play by the kicker.

[Eaglesfan27]

Now, NE starts to implode?

I agree that PI was a bad call. Like Troy, I did think it was PI in real time, but on the replay it clearly wasn't.

[SirFozzie]

Goddamn.

Normally this happens to other teams, not the Pats.

[Desnudo]

Losing the fumble to a punter, sweet.

[Karlifornia]

The punter just disrespected the Patriots

[st.cronin]

No way are Dillon and Hobbs on the team next year.

[Desnudo]

A very bad call. Watching it in realtime, I thought it was PI. I thought he cut off the route.

On replay, it was clear, it was no penalty. Horrible call. Simply horrible.

Denver got away with one there. Bigtime.

A side note: Where the hell was that play on 3rd and 4th and 1 earlier in the game?

You know, I'm fine if the guy on the line calls it, but the guy in the back of the end zone with no angle calls it.

[Desnudo]

TBF, it's the Patriots fault Denver had these chances in the first place.

[Craptacular]

Huge FG there.

[Desnudo]

NE D has played great. It's their offense that needs sorting out.

[Glengoyne]

You know, I'm fine if the guy on the line calls it, but the guy in the back of the end zone with no angle calls it.This is how I felt about it too.

Same as Troy, I thought it was a penalty on the live feed. In fact I was surprised the ref on the sideline didn't call it. The replay was clear, and I thought for a second the ref on the sideline was going to over rule that call when they conferenced. Didn't happen.

[jeff061]

I don't ever ever ever want to hear from anyone that the Pats get special treatment. With the false start on the FG, the refs have spotted the Broncos 10 points.

[Desnudo]

Yes, that was embarassing for both of them. If that umpire or whatever his title is refs again in the playoffs I'd be surprised. I always thought the rule was, if you aren't sure, keep the flag in your pocket.

[Raiders Army]

Jesus, jesus, jesus. The refs suck. At the most that should've been holding against Samuel instead of pass interference. And on the replay, it wasn't a foul at all!

[DaddyTorgo]

I don't ever ever ever want to hear from anyone that the Pats get special treatment. With the false start on the FG, the refs have spotted the Broncos 10 points.very true

[TroyF]

The call was horrible. I hate bad calls and I hate it when my team ends up winning off of them. (and NO, I'm not saying Denver has won a damned thing yet, not even close)

The only thing I can take some sort of solice in is that Denver was the better team for that half. Watch the game and not pay attention to the score, and I think Denver was the better team.

The defense has Brady 100% off his game. He's not comfortable at all in the pocket or at the LOS. It's causing his passes to be off and he's getting battered. For ANY defense to confuse Brady for a half, it's a monumental task. The fact NE knew this was coming makes it even more amazing.

The downside is Denver had plenty of chances to make this a two or three score game and they may end up paying for that. I have a feeling the second half is going to be incredibly exciting. I'm just hoping this ends in a Denver win, not a Brady comeback. :)

[Desnudo]

nice that the glide right over that call in the highlights.

[Raiders Army]

Is it just me, or does the Patriots' center keep moving his head down and then back up right before he snaps the ball?

[Desnudo]

The call was horrible. I hate bad calls and I hate it when my team ends up winning off of them. (and NO, I'm not saying Denver has won a damned thing yet, not even close)

The only thing I can take some sort of solice in is that Denver was the better team for that half. Watch the game and not pay attention to the score, and I think Denver was the better team.

The defense has Brady 100% off his game. He's not comfortable at all in the pocket or at the LOS. It's causing his passes to be off and he's getting battered. For ANY defense to confuse Brady for a half, it's a monumental task. The fact NE knew this was coming makes it even more amazing.

The downside is Denver had plenty of chances to make this a two or three score game and they may end up paying for that. I have a feeling the second half is going to be incredibly exciting. I'm just hoping this ends in a Denver win, not a Brady comeback. :)

I thought Denver was by far the better team in the first quarter, I thought the Patriots were much better than Denver in the 2nd quarter until the Faulk fumble and PI call.

[st.cronin]

The call was horrible. I hate bad calls and I hate it when my team ends up winning off of them. (and NO, I'm not saying Denver has won a damned thing yet, not even close)

The only thing I can take some sort of solice in is that Denver was the better team for that half. Watch the game and not pay attention to the score, and I think Denver was the better team.

The defense has Brady 100% off his game. He's not comfortable at all in the pocket or at the LOS. It's causing his passes to be off and he's getting battered. For ANY defense to confuse Brady for a half, it's a monumental task. The fact NE knew this was coming makes it even more amazing.

The downside is Denver had plenty of chances to make this a two or three score game and they may end up paying for that. I have a feeling the second half is going to be incredibly exciting. I'm just hoping this ends in a Denver win, not a Brady comeback. :)

I thought it was pretty even. Both QBs look a little off, and neither team can really run the ball .

[TroyF]

I don't ever ever ever want to hear from anyone that the Pats get special treatment. With the false start on the FG, the refs have spotted the Broncos 10 points.

Some bizzare false starts in this game. Remember on the third down six for the Pats earlier in the game? Five Denver defenders stand up and point and the play is ran without a call. No replay there, but I find it hard to believe all five Denver players were wrong there.

The false start on the kick was also a bad call. In real time, I thought it was PI and I didn't see the false start, in hindsite, they were simply horrible calls. Beyond horrible.

[jeff061]

I think Denver's win on field position is really what has them looking better than anything. Their running game is off, Jake was good for a series but he's cooling off now, the Pats have been awful inside their own 10. Which is probably the toughest place to play in the league.

Turning out to be the type of game I expected. Other than the refs, it's a good game.

[Desnudo]

Clinton's hat = :D

[Desnudo]

Some bizzare false starts in this game. Remember on the third down six for the Pats earlier in the game? Five Denver defenders stand up and point and the play is ran without a call. No replay there, but I find it hard to believe all five Denver players were wrong there.

The false start on the kick was also a bad call. In real time, I thought it was PI and I didn't see the false start, in hindsite, they were simply horrible calls. Beyond horrible.

I think this ref crew is poor, not talking about bias, just about quality.

[Desnudo]

MGD over 30 commercials most baffling of the year?

[st.cronin]

I think this ref crew is poor, not talking about bias, just about quality.

Agreed. They don't seem to know what the heck is going on.

[Desnudo]

Here's to a good second half anyway. I think the first half was looking like a defensive classic until the end and this game still has the chance to be one.

[Swaggs]

I thought the Sunbelt Conference gave its refs the rest of the season off?

[Ksyrup]

Corey Dillon is looking a lot like Eddie George. And he has all year.

[st.cronin]

I'm a little bit worried about the Pats lack of a running game.

[SirFozzie]

We so need a RB in the draft. Faulk's a good 3rd down back.. Dillon.. has lost the "explode" that he had

[Pumpy Tudors]

As far as the pass interference call is concerned, they made the call by watching it in real time. Of course it was a bad call, but lots of people probably thought it was interference in real time, just like the official did. What are the refs supposed to do? Look at the replay and change their minds?

[Eaglesfan27]

We so need a RB in the draft. Faulk's a good 3rd down back.. Dillon.. has lost the "explode" that he had
I wish he had lost it a year earlier..

[SirFozzie]

I wish he had lost it a year earlier..

I think the proper response to that is.. NEENER. :P

[st.cronin]

I think this is definitely the most exciting game of the playoffs yet. I think Indy-Pittsburgh will be pretty good too.

[Desnudo]

As far as the pass interference call is concerned, they made the call by watching it in real time. Of course it was a bad call, but lots of people probably thought it was interference in real time, just like the official did. What are the refs supposed to do? Look at the replay and change their minds?

The ref on the sideline about 10 feet from the play didn't make the call, the guy in the back of the end zone, about 30-40 feet away, did. And it wasn't a bad call, it was a horrible call, it should have been offensive PI for pushing off.

[Ksyrup]

It should have been no call. the ball was nearly out of the back of the end zone as they crossed the goal line together. I thought it was defensive PI in real-time because it lookd like he rode Lelie out of bounds. Clearly, that wasn't the case on the replay.

[SirFozzie]

We are getting NO rush on Jake "Liquid" Plummer :)

[Ksyrup]

The running game is so bad, I'm about ready for Ron Dayne to get a chance. :eek:

[st.cronin]

We are getting NO rush on Jake "Liquid" Plummer :)

Heh, way to fake em out big guy!

[SirFozzie]

Ok.. The Pats have not gotten a ton of points in a row..

[Desnudo]

A TD would be nice.

[SirFozzie]

HAHAH! Best Commercial ever.. they need to do a Nebraska-Michigan version of that, with the state of Nebraska on the field ;)

[Pumpy Tudors]

The ref on the sideline about 10 feet from the play didn't make the call, the guy in the back of the end zone, about 30-40 feet away, did. And it wasn't a bad call, it was a horrible call, it should have been offensive PI for pushing off.
I understand that, but that's not my point. My point is that it looked like pass interference to people watching in real time on television. It's feasible that it could have looked like pass interference in real time to someone on the field who was 30-40 feet away.

I'm not really trying to say anything more than this. I don't think that people should stop complaining about the call or anything. I guess I'm just asking what could have possibly been done. If it looked like interference to that official, he has to throw the flag. Yes, it was a horrible call, but unlike some other horrible calls I've seen, at least I can understand where the official is coming from on this one.

[DaddyTorgo]

we havn't scored nearly any points

[SirFozzie]

We... have.. TRICKERY... :D

[DaddyTorgo]

oh, the shit is ON now denver. we bringin it!

[Desnudo]

There's the old Dillon

[Swaggs]

I used to run that play in Super Tecmo Bowl!

[Desnudo]

I understand that, but that's not my point. My point is that it looked like pass interference to people watching in real time on television. It's feasible that it could have looked like pass interference in real time to someone on the field who was 30-40 feet away.

I'm not really trying to say anything more than this. I don't think that people should stop complaining about the call or anything. I guess I'm just asking what could have possibly been done. If it looked like interference to that official, he has to throw the flag. Yes, it was a horrible call, but unlike some other horrible calls I've seen, at least I can understand where the official is coming from on this one.

Yeah, but the guy 10 feet away has no excuse. It was clear that he should have overruled. They are a lot close than the tv camera.

Edit: and also, given how long it took him to throw it was obvious he wasn't sure. If you aren't sure, don't throw the flag.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Yeah, but the guy 10 feet away has no excuse. It was clear that he should have overruled. They are a lot close than the tv camera.OK, I'll give you that. I can see where you're coming from, too. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Yes!!! Champ Bailey!

[henry296]

What a great play by Watson... I think it might have been a touchback.

[ScottVib]

Bailey slowed up and screwed himself out of a TD.

Edit - If that's a fumble this is a touchback.

[st.cronin]

HOLY SMOKES

[Craptacular]

Wow

[Craptacular]

That could be a TB.

[SirFozzie]

TOUCHBACK!

[Calis]

He got rocked there.

Be an interesting challenge if it happens.

[Ksyrup]

That's NE's ball.

[SirFozzie]

and if the Pats win, they get the ball at the 20 :)

[cthomer5000]

Bailey is a moron for slowing up on that. Looks like a touchback to me.

[Ksyrup]

Don Fucking Beebe.

[Eaglesfan27]

Darn, Bailey did screw the Broncos that play. Should have been a TD, but I don't think it will be conclusively a touchback.

[Craptacular]

However, can you tell from a replay, INDISPUTABLY, that it went OOB in the endzone.

[Radii]

wow.

[henry296]

That other angle gives me some doubt.

[ScottVib]

I'll tell you what Ben Watson is the poster boy for not giving up on a play. What an effort.

[Radii]

I don't think that gets overturned

[SirFozzie]

over the pylon is in, and therefore TB

[st.cronin]

I'll tell you what Ben Watson is the poster boy for not giving up on a play. What an effort.

No kidding. That's an unbelievable play on his part.

[Ksyrup]

I'm not sure the ball flew out from inside the pilon.

[Ksyrup]

I guess it was inconclusive.

[Desnudo]

Could see that coming. Wasn't conclusive though.

[SirFozzie]

Bullshit call..

but Brady's fault for throwing it in the first place

[Craptacular]

OK, what do all the Georgia folks think about that? :D

[Ksyrup]

If there's anything worse than reading The Sports Guy yammering on and on about the Pats, it's going to be reading about how they only lost because of the refs if this game continues along these lines.

[Marmel]

Inconclusive evidence, and that is the right way to do it in that case.

[Easy Mac]

time to hear people from new england to start crying about their teams again

[SirFozzie]

He will have a point KSyrup.. when 14 Points can sincerely be questioned, it's gotta be a factor.

[Desnudo]

Well, congrats to Denver. 15 minutes left, but this one is done. I really hope they beat the Colts.

[SirFozzie]

time to hear people from new england to start crying about their teams again

Time for the haters to come out of the woodwork

[SirFozzie]

Well, congrats to Denver. 15 minutes left, but this one is done. I really hope they beat the Colts.

I ain't givin up yet.. :)

[Desnudo]

time to hear people from new england to start crying about their teams again

Do you care one way or the other who wins, if not then f* off.

[DaddyTorgo]

oh we can't cry EasyMac. We have absolutely no grounds to cry compared to a lot of other franchises. So we won't three-peat...there are teams that havn't made the playoffs in twice that long. Big deal. And we have a solid foundation, even if we lose we'll be right back next year.

[Easy Mac]

i really don't think there are bigger bitches in the world than people who root for northeast teams

[Radii]

He will have a point KSyrup.. when 14 Points can sincerely be questioned, it's gotta be a factor.


I don't see how you can possibly say that you saw something on any of those replays where the ball conclusively went out of the end zone.

[DaddyTorgo]

dola


and no way denver beats indy if they end up playing.

[Buccaneer]

It seems like every time I go upstairs to catch the game, something bad happens to the Pats (I saw the KO fumble earlier and now the INT). It's too aggravating to watch so I won't. Go Pats.

[tucker rocky]

Inconclusive evidence, and that is the right way to do it in that case.

As you said.

[Swaggs]

Colts-Steelers winner, you mean?

[GrantDawg]

OK, what do all the Georgia folks think about that? :D

One Dawg just hit another Dawg really hard. :)

[cthomer5000]

dola


and no way denver beats indy if they end up playing.
I can't wait for the annual Indy-Denver blowout. My favorite time of the year.

[Pumpy Tudors]

OK, after watching this play over and over again, it really appears to me that the ball could not have gone out inside the pylon. Bailey was at the 2 yard line when the ball got knocked out, and I can't see how it went 2 yards forward before it went one yard sideways. Obviously, I'm no expert, but it just doesn't seem possible to me.

[Ksyrup]

He will have a point KSyrup.. when 14 Points can sincerely be questioned, it's gotta be a factor.
I understand. I just wish it wasn't happening this way. I'd rather switch this one with the regular season one so all he could say was...they beat us and beat us solidly.

[TroyF]

Bailey just got tired. He wasn't showboating.

I couldn't tell on the replay. That was as inconclusive as you can get. If NE does end up going out in this game, and again, I'm not saying they will go out in this game. . . it'd be an interesting way for it to happen. How many NE games over the last four years have went like this?

With one team controlling the game in the second half, ready to take the lead and having their hearts cut open by a questionable call or two and a turnover in the red zone?

Denver has a lot of work left. I imagine the Pats are livid now. I can't see Brady making another mistake tonight.

[VPI97]

OK, after watching this play over and over again, it really appears to me that the ball could not have gone out inside the pylon. Bailey was at the 2 yard line when the ball got knocked out, and I can't see how it went 2 yards forward before it went one yard sideways. Obviously, I'm no expert, but it just doesn't seem possible to me.I saw it the same way.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Bailey just got tired. He wasn't showboating.
I'd like to agree with you here. I really would. I really, really would.

[st.cronin]

Well, congrats to Denver. 15 minutes left, but this one is done. I really hope they beat the Colts.

Are you kidding? I still feel good about our chances.

[Desnudo]

i really don't think there are bigger bitches in the world than people who root for northeast teams

Seriously, are you just here to troll? I haven't seen one negative comment about Denver or NE until you rolled in with your random BS.

[Ksyrup]

Every time I hear people talk bout how Brady never makes mistakes, I think about that Monday night game against the Dolphins when he threw that no-look pic that even Aaron Brooks would have been ashamed of. The guy ain't perfect. And frankly, he's been off for at least half of this game. A lot of off-line passes we usually don't see from him.

[Raiders Army]

He was showboating his ass off and got lucky.

[Swaggs]

A full quarter and one Tom Brady is still a scary combination when you are holding a lead.

[SirFozzie]

I don't see how you can possibly say that you saw something on any of those replays where the ball conclusively went out of the end zone.


You heard simms say it himself. The ball went right over the pylon.

If it was an offensive player with the ball going over the pylon, it's IN.

But hopefully we can come back.

[Eaglesfan27]

OK, after watching this play over and over again, it really appears to me that the ball could not have gone out inside the pylon. Bailey was at the 2 yard line when the ball got knocked out, and I can't see how it went 2 yards forward before it went one yard sideways. Obviously, I'm no expert, but it just doesn't seem possible to me.
I agree, having watched it a few times on my TIVO. Also, there certainly wasn't conclusive evidence it was a TB. That was a good call IMO.

[st.cronin]

Please keep blitzing, Denver, please keep blitzing.

[GrantDawg]

I agree, having watched it a few times on my TIVO. Also, there certainly wasn't conclusive evidence it was a TB. That was a good call IMO.

Agreed. I have watched every replay several times. There is no way you can over turn it.

[Easy Mac]

Seriously, are you just here to troll? I haven't seen one negative comment about Denver or NE until you rolled in with your random BS.
you mean aside from kysup's comment, and people complaining about the referrering being slanted against their team. Whatever man. Continue overreacting to a football game. I completely respect what the Pats have done, but I'm just tired of people looking for an excuse as to why they're losing right nw. And my team is sitting at home right now, somehow blowing the reggie bush sweepstakes, so no, I don't have a horse in this race.

[Pumpy Tudors]

You heard simms say it himself.This sentence in itself blows apart your argument. :D

[Eaglesfan27]

You heard simms say it himself. The ball went right over the pylon.

If it was an offensive player with the ball going over the pylon, it's IN.

But hopefully we can come back.
Simms is never wrong.

[Glengoyne]

I'd like to agree with you here. I really would. I really, really would.I don't think he was showboating, but I wouldn't say he was "tired" either. I'd say he didn't run out the play. He slowed down cause he thought he was out of danger.

[Desnudo]

Are you kidding? I still feel good about our chances.

TBH, I still do too, but I'm trying to jinx the Broncos. Childish, but it might work.

[Radii]

You heard simms say it himself. The ball went right over the pylon.

If it was an offensive player with the ball going over the pylon, it's IN.

But hopefully we can come back.


Simms was also trying to give a lesson on geometry and was trying to draw a 2D line on a moving 3D replay to determine where the ball went out. He's a moron.

[cthomer5000]

I don't think he was showboating, but I wouldn't say he was "tired" either. I'd say he didn't run out the play. He slowed down cause he thought he was out of danger.
This is exactly what happened. I think he just assumed no one was still with him and quite obviously let up. He really, really, really lucked out.

[Glengoyne]

Oh and I agree with the inconclusive bit about the fumble.

That said, the refs should have declared it a touchback, cause they owed the Pats for that horrible call on the PI in the first half.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I don't think he was showboating, but I wouldn't say he was "tired" either. I'd say he didn't run out the play. He slowed down cause he thought he was out of danger.Yes, this is really more what I mean. I guess he wasn't really showboating. I'd say it exactly as you did.

[GrantDawg]

I don't think he was showboating, but I wouldn't say he was "tired" either. I'd say he didn't run out the play. He slowed down cause he thought he was out of danger.

Agreed. It looked like he slowed up when he thought he was safe. Then that big bad monster knocked him into next week.

[st.cronin]

I don't think he was showboating, but I wouldn't say he was "tired" either. I'd say he didn't run out the play. He slowed down cause he thought he was out of danger.


It's not just Bailey. He had two guys with him that should have been looking for somebody to block, and Watson ran right by them. Eh, it didn't matter.

[tarcone]

simms is an idiot
bailey ran out of gas and figured he could coast in.....ooops
GO BRONCOS

[tucker rocky]

One Dawg just hit another Dawg really hard. :)

Is that how Larry Munson would say it? :D

[SirFozzie]

Need the points here, still plenty of time

[tarcone]

Damn this is killing me .......im living and dying with the broncos in this one

[tarcone]

the best clutch kicker.....CHOKES......WOO HOO

[cthomer5000]

woot!

[Desnudo]

you mean aside from kysup's comment, and people complaining about the referrering being slanted against their team. Whatever man. Continue overreacting to a football game. I completely respect what the Pats have done, but I'm just tired of people looking for an excuse as to why they're losing right nw. And my team is sitting at home right now, somehow blowing the reggie bush sweepstakes, so no, I don't have a horse in this race.

The complaint is primarily about one call, which everyone on both sides acknowledges was a horrible call. I haven't seen any excuses being made in this thread. And who overreacts to football games, someone who randomly pops in and insults an entire fan base who is also watching their team play or someone who finally gets tired of seeing it and says something?

[st.cronin]

Vinatieri missing a field goal? Damn, now I'm officially nervous.

[Radii]

what a huge miss.

[Ksyrup]

First sign of the apocolypse.

[DaddyTorgo]

i think that might be just about all she wrote.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow, Mr. Clutch misses a FG kick.

[Easy Mac]

It's not just Bailey. He had two guys with him that should have been looking for somebody to block, and Watson ran right by them. Eh, it didn't matter.
One guy was trying to block someone, unfortunately he pcked a guy who had no shot to get him, so he slowed down to block him. The other guy I agree, he quit on the play, but Watson seemed to come at such an unexpected angle.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Oops, now Vinatieri knows what it's like to miss one when his team really needs him.

[Ksyrup]

The complaint is primarily about one call, which everyone on both sides acknowledges was a horrible call. I haven't seen any excuses being made in this thread. And who overreacts to football games, someone who randomly pops in and insults an entire fan base who is also watching their team play or someone who finally gets tired of seeing it and says something?
Yeah, if that call had gone against Denver, I'd be pissed about giving up a cheap TD. As it is, I just think that was the Football Gods' way of giving Shanahan a second chance at getting a goal line call right. The 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 calls were horrid.

[Swaggs]

Wow... Signs of the apocolypse:

1. Brady misses an open WR for a TD in the 4th quarter.
2. Vinatieri misses a FG in the playoffs.

[GrantDawg]

Wow, did NE leave all of their magic at home? First Brady and now Vinateri. They must have forgotten their super-hero uniforms.

[st.cronin]

Jake Plummer is still Jake Plummer. Patriots can still win.

[Galaril]

Wow Brady over throwing an open guy in the endzone and Viniteri missing an easy field goal and the penalties. Well, this may be it for the 3 peat stuff for this team.

[tarcone]

1st and 10 do it again

[Pumpy Tudors]

FLYIN HAWAIIAN

[DaddyTorgo]

it's POSSIBLE. but the chance of that happening is decreasing with every denver first down

[tucker rocky]

All streaks come to an end someday.
TB's PO win streak ends today.

[Ksyrup]

Jake Plummer is still Jake Plummer. Patriots can still win.
The beauty of it is that they don't really need Plummer to do anything at this point.