FOF2K4 Tiebreakers down the line...

[Ben E Lou]

I've never paid any attention to them, but after what happened last season, I'd like a better understanding. Here are the details:

Carolina: 7-9, 6-6 conf, 4-2 div
Atlanta: 7-9, 6-6 conf, 4-2 div
Tampa Bay: 7-9, 6-6 conf, 2-4 div


In head-to-head play, everyone was 1-1 against each another. The Bucs managed to lose twice to the hapless Aints.

What is the next tiebreaker? Some sort of point differential?

[cthomer5000]

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION

If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.


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So Tampa gets dropped and it becomes a head-to-head with Carolina Atlanta. It will go to Strength of Victory.

[Ben E Lou]

Thanks!

[CraigSca]

Are we sure this policy is followed to the letter in FOF?

[cthomer5000]

Are we sure this policy is followed to the letter in FOF? pretty damn sure. The tiebreakers have always shaken out correct in IHOF, i think one going as far as strength of schedule last year.

I just double-checked, the IHOF Southeast went to the 6th tiebreaker last year, strength of schedule (With Conyers beating out Orlando). Here was the detailed analysis before Week 17:

http://www.fof-ihof.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5635&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40


I'm still confused on the draft tiebreakers, but from everything I've ever seen with the playoffs, they're perfect.

[sovereignstar]

I found this in a post at the HFL Board:

I looked at your forum, and I agree that Baltimore should have won the wild
card. FOF does use the NFL's rules, but this sounds like it could be a bug -
I'd guess that the game triggered the HtH tie-breaker because Baltimore
played the three other teams it was tied with, which is very unusual in
cases like this.

I'll put this in the bug list - sorry I can't fix the saved game, or send a
case of champagne to the Baltimore owner.

So the game does mimic NFL tiebreakers, but there's also a bug out there.

[CraigSca]

Interesting. I suppose the next "feature" to add-on to the game would be playoff scenarios at the end of the year. Something like, "Baltimore makes it with a victory in either of their last two weeks or a Pittsburgh loss." That would be pretty cool :)