FOFD

[Franklinnoble]

Rather than continually crying about the moderation and lamenting another undeserved banning, I've decided to do something about it. Whether or not anything comes of it is up to the rest of you.

Front Office Football Discussion awaits you.

http://p098.ezboard.com/bfofd

[WSUCougar]

Damn. I thought Jim had blindsided us and this was an announcement for Front Office Fire Department.

[Young Drachma]

Front Office Fire Department. You won't actually see the fires, though.

LOL

[WSUCougar]

Jumbo Sal-avea

Ladders: 61/68
Hoses: 27/41
Firetruck driving: 38/77
CPR: 7/11
Rescuing cats in trees: 0

[AlexB]

Rules will be evaluated as necessary. I intend to be as up front as
possible with everyone. If you've broken a rule that I haven't published, you'll
get a warning before there's any suspension

That's a can of worms right there - it reads as if you can change the rules and then retrospectively punish people for previously breaking a new rule -kinda like the NFL banning/suspending a player at the start of this season for a horse collar tackle committed 5 years ago..

[aran]

Damn. I thought Jim had blindsided us and this was an announcement for Front Office Fire Department.


*falls off chair*

[aran]

dola -

Ezboard? Screw that.

[Eaglesfan27]

Rules will be evaluated as necessary. I intend to be as up front as
possible with everyone. If you've broken a rule that I haven't published, you'll
get a warning before there's any suspension

That's a can of worms right there - it reads as if you can change the rules and then retrospectively punish people for previously breaking a new rule -kinda like the NFL banning/suspending a player at the start of this season for a horse collar tackle committed 5 years ago..
Exactly. While I disagree with several of Ben's recent decisions (and his use of slurs), based on your past posts in the last year, I still think Ben is more likely to be consistent.


Edited only to clarify the use of your as referring to FranklinNoble.

[cartman]

Damn. I thought Jim had blindsided us and this was an announcement for Front Office Fire Department.

I'll guess my fire house rules will have to wait yet again.

[AlexB]

I should add fair play to you though for doing something positive about something you don't like - rather than bitch and whine, you've started up something that you will be happier with: kudos to you.

[Swaggs]

http://www.improvresourcecenter.com/mb/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

[Eaglesfan27]

Jumbo Sal-avea

Ladders: 61/68
Hoses: 27/41
Firetruck driving: 38/77
CPR: 7/11
Rescuing cats in trees: 0
I'm very disappointed with his lack of ability to rescue cats and will be releasing him ASAP.

[SackAttack]

What did treed cats do before firemen? I mean, really.

[MalcPow]

I'm very disappointed with his lack of ability to rescue cats and will be releasing him ASAP.

If you bring in a mentor and give him some at bats in a Thursday night softball league you'll see a real jump in that number.

[Franklinnoble]

Rules will be evaluated as necessary. I intend to be as up front as
possible with everyone. If you've broken a rule that I haven't published, you'll
get a warning before there's any suspension

That's a can of worms right there - it reads as if you can change the rules and then retrospectively punish people for previously breaking a new rule -kinda like the NFL banning/suspending a player at the start of this season for a horse collar tackle committed 5 years ago..
I have no intent to enforce the rules retroactively. I'm not sure why that's the impression.

That particular statement is to cover anything I left out - say, for example, I didn't remember to post a rule about posting FOF license keys on the board.

Now, in my opinion, that should be pretty obvious, and I don't feel like brainstorming for every imaginable infraction. But if someone does post license keys, then, based on the above statement, I'd warn them in writing, write the rule, and then enforce against future infractions only.

[SirFozzie]

Odds on this thread lasting 48 Hours: 10/1

[kcchief19]

1. No personal attacks. Disagree, argue, call names, but keep it reasonably civil - i.e., no racial slurs, that sort of thing. Check
2. No repeated baiting or harassing. This is basically my definition of trolling. If it appears that you are constantly trying to rile or annoy a particular person (or the board in general), you will be warned. Repeat offenders get suspended.
Check
3. I don't intend to permanently ban anyone. Breaking the rules will get you a public and PM warning. After that, it's a suspension. Note that ezboard only allows me to "ban" users. I have to remember to un-ban manually - so, if I forget, don't take offense, just send me a note and I'll clear it up.
Check

4. No crying. If you don't like what someone has to say, ignore them. We all have different opinions. You can read them, debate them, or ignore them, but I don't intend to silence them.Check
5. Keep it work-safe. No direct links to questionable sites, no NSFW photos, etc. Use common sense.
Check

6. Rules will be evaluated as necessary. I intend to be as up front as possible with everyone. If you've broken a rule that I haven't published, you'll get a warning before there's any suspension, so that there is time to publish the rule, and there is no doubt whether or not the behavior warrented action.
Check

Correct me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but did Franklin just come up with these rules based on things he did that got him boxed here? Pot calling kettle, come in kettle.

Which means the only difference between this new spiffy EZBoard -- there are two things wrong with that title by the way -- and FOFC is that one is moderated by a power-hungry egocentric bent on making everyone bend to his viewpoint on life and society, and one is moderated by SkyDog.

[Anthony]

i don't have a prob w/ FN, but if i were mod of this place, given all the mod bashing FN has done i'd delete this thread, ya know, just to fuck with him.

LOL.

[Kodos]

Coming soon: Front Office Kodos Central -- All polls, all the time!

[MJ4H]

hahaha no tx

[Desnudo]

Should FN's title be changed to Che Guevara? I also smell a business opportunity here. Take FOFC into the digital era with a variety of themed message boards.

[panerd]

Is there a section where we can discuss your wife's e-mails?

[Franklinnoble]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Sandy, but did Franklin just come up with these rules based on things he did that got him boxed here? Pot calling kettle, come in kettle.

Which means the only difference between this new spiffy EZBoard -- there are two things wrong with that title by the way -- and FOFC is that one is moderated by a power-hungry egocentric bent on making everyone bend to his viewpoint on life and society, and one is moderated by SkyDog.
I've noticed an unhealthy level of disdain coming from your direction every time I post. What, exactly, did I ever do to piss you off? Just wondering... I don't recall going out of my way to offend you at any point, so is it something specific, or do you just generally not like me? Or are you THAT in love with SkyDog?



i don't have a prob w/ FN, but if i were mod of this place, given all the mod bashing FN has done i'd delete this thread, ya know, just to fuck with him.

LOL


Would it be better to keep on mod-bashing, or maybe put a little time and money where my mouth is?

I think things could be a little better around here. But they're not going to change. So, I'm offering an alternative.

Yes, it's a crappy little ezBoard right now. I'm not going to invest hundreds of dollars in this effort if there's no interest. But if there is, then I'll entertain the notion of better hosting and better board software.

Right now, I'm offering an ad-free experience, and a fresh moderating perspective, because I think that might be of interest to some folks around here, and some who aren't welcome here anymore.

[Blade6119]

Rules will be evaluated as necessary. I intend to be as up front as
possible with everyone. If you've broken a rule that I haven't published, you'll
get a warning before there's any suspension

That's a can of worms right there - it reads as if you can change the rules and then retrospectively punish people for previously breaking a new rule -kinda like the NFL banning/suspending a player at the start of this season for a horse collar tackle committed 5 years ago..
Didnt baseball do this? Suspend a player for a drug test he failed in 02 due to new rules in 05/06? Im quite certain they did

[Raiders Army]

FN, I applaud you for trying to do something positive instead of crying. That being said, I don't think FOFD will last long.

[Young Drachma]

Should FN's title be changed to Che Guevara? I also smell a business opportunity here. Take FOFC into the digital era with a variety of themed message boards.

LOL

[Karlifornia]

I am a member of FOFD! I don't know if I will stay long, though. There aren't any antmeister parodies....

[st.cronin]

FN, have you posted a link to FOFADD in the MaxiFoot forum? I think you could pull some traffic from that board.

[SackAttack]

Didnt baseball do this? Suspend a player for a drug test he failed in 02 due to new rules in 05/06? Im quite certain they did

Not entirely.

What it boils down to is that there wasn't any crossover between minor league drug tests and major league drug tests.

A kid in the Seattle system got hit with a suspension in the minors for testing positive for steroids, did his time, rejoined the team.

Got called up, and the steroids hadn't vacated his system yet.

He tested positive at the major league level for the same usage, and was hit with a second suspension.

It isn't that he was penalized ex post facto, it's that he was hit with double jeopardy for the same rules violation because of the timing of the test.

[sterlingice]

Which means the only difference between this new spiffy EZBoard -- there are two things wrong with that title by the way -- and FOFC is that one is moderated by a power-hungry egocentric bent on making everyone bend to his viewpoint on life and society, and one is moderated by SkyDog.Ok, I gotta admit, that got a snicker out of me ;)

SI

[sterlingice]

FN, I applaud you for trying to do something positive instead of crying. That being said, I don't think FOFD will last long.FN, it's a great idea. While I don't have the huge problems with moderation here, I appreciate the attempt to, as RA said, "do something positive instead of crying". I do think it would be impossible to recreate the atmosphere over here at another board, but one never knows.

SI

[Franklinnoble]

The atmosphere here is one that took several years to build. I certainly have no delusions about being able to re-create it overnight.

I'd like to have more folks contribute to the overall design and moderation of the board. If you're interested, or you just want to point and laugh, you'll find the thread here: http://p098.ezboard.com/ffofdfrm2.showMessage?topicID=6.topic

[Anthony]

question - if you're forum/message board is more of a everything goes environment then did you really need to have the "Front Office" moniker in it? there's nothing Front Office about your forum, i doubt people outside of FOFC would know why it's called FOFD. at least FOFC has a reason, however outdated it might be, for being called Front Office Football Central. the sky was the limit for you FN. you could have called your forum "Back Office Football Forum", at least your short name would have been "BOFF". that woulda been awesome.

[Franklinnoble]

question - if you're forum/message board is more of a everything goes environment then did you really need to have the "Front Office" moniker in it? there's nothing Front Office about your forum, i doubt people outside of FOFC would know why it's called FOFD. at least FOFC has a reason, however outdated it might be, for being called Front Office Football Central. the sky was the limit for you FN. you could have called your forum "Back Office Football Forum", at least your short name would have been "BOFF". that woulda been awesome.
Yeah, I thought about that. But, realistically, the effort here is to attract the same type of people (football and gaming geeks) to a more open and consistently moderated forum. I figured the name "FOFD" was sort of an homage... like, the next generation of FOFC.

[Klinglerware]

I figured the name "FOFD" was sort of an homage... like, the next generation of FOFC.

Yeah, I thought that the FOFD as a play on FOFC was pretty clever...

[Deattribution]

you could have called your forum "Back Office Football Forum", at least your short name would have been "BOFF". that woulda been awesome.


Given his love for the ladies man's quotes, wouldn't 'Back Door Football Forum' been more approriate, or do you think thatda killed it before it got started? :)

[Butter]

Coming soon: Front Office Kodos Central -- All polls, all the time!

Where do I sign up?

[VPI97]

This should be in the reference thread.

[IwasHere]

Everyone posting in this thread is now Banned. :)

[saldana]

can we get a pool going about how fast someone can get banned at FOFD if they try?

[sachmo71]

Pretty funny. That forum has some real comedic potential.

[IwasHere]

Does anyone have any interest in starting up a XXX rated FOFE board?

One where pictures and adult links are encouraged?

For the over 18 FOF'er out there.

[sachmo71]

I can only guess that banning is a requirement to join that board? is that what you are going for, IwasHere?

[rkmsuf]

Does anyone have any interest in starting up a XXX rated FOFE board?

One where pictures and adult links are encouraged?

For the over 18 FOF'er out there.

No interest in seeing Franklin naked.

[kcchief19]

Does anyone have any interest in starting up a XXX rated FOFE board?

One where pictures and adult links are encouraged?

For the over 18 FOF'er out there.Ping: Sir Fozzie

[kcchief19]

Pretty funny. That forum has some real comedic potential.It's pretty tame thus far, but you think with FN, WrongWay and Druez together there is unexplored potential for comedy.

I do see that Franklin was kind enough to offer any multiplayer leagues free space on his EZBoard. It's a dream come true!

[astrosfan64]

It's pretty tame thus far, but you think with FN, WrongWay and Druez together there is unexplored potential for comedy.

I do see that Franklin was kind enough to offer any multiplayer leagues free space on his EZBoard. It's a dream come true!


Kind of like an FOFC Purgatory board. That would be pretty funny. Where the banned may go and dwell...

[Desnudo]

Kind of like an FOFC Purgatory board. That would be pretty funny. Where the banned may go and dwell...

Some good stuff already.

[astrosfan64]

Some good stuff already.

The question is.... will the banned be able to atone for their actions and come back to the promise land that is FOFC :D

[Desnudo]

From reading his post, I think Druez is just preparing to move to the next level of Hell.

[astrosfan64]

From reading his post, I think Druez is just preparing to move to the next level of Hell.


I suppose if you are going to go one way or another, pick your path and go all the way....

[sachmo71]

From reading his post, I think Druez is just preparing to move to the next level of Hell.


Now that I read his post, I can easily picture him as that guy who cried about being banned. :(

[JeeberD]

Oh dear lord, a board on which I'm a mod.

Frightening...

[Franklinnoble]

Oh dear lord, a board on which I'm a mod.

Frightening...
Yeah... now in addition to thousands of your own posts, you can also edit everyone else's. :D

[Subby]

Did you ever notice the double standard that exists on FOFC. Not just by skydog, but by most of the rabble over there. Just about everyone of us has done or something that someone else has either got a box or banned for at one time or another.

Everyone's trolled in a post at one time or another, everyone of us has bitched and cried or posted in poor taste.

I know why I was banned, I @#%$ with the holy altar that is Front Office no style football. Yeah, I ripped the game on the boards and posted the 70 plus bug fixes that were made to the game.

You know what is funny, FOF and TCY both had major bugs with the game and needed patches and fixes. But half of you who suck on Jim's penis won't ever call him on it.

Yeah, Joe Stallings is a @#%$ @#%$ who desperately tried to get me to give poor reviews to competitors products. WHICH I NEVER DID.

I'm tired of all you fucktards ripping my review of Jim's game. I gave him a damn good review and told everyone to buy his fricking game. So you can @#%$ off about that @#%$ also.

Yeah, I like this new board.

BTW the first time, I got banned / boxed at FOFC was for challenging SKYDOG btw. But back then all you tards that are bitching were sucking him off.

Go check out the thread SKYDOG you are dictator sometimes thread.

Pathetic you are all now pay you must.'Sup Winner?

[Desnudo]

I suppose if you are going to go one way or another, pick your path and go all the way....

Go big or go home?

[Desnudo]

This does actually present an interesting opportunity. Instead of boxing people here, FNs' board could be like the FOFC prison where they get an opportunity to rehabilitate. Then a parole board would hear petitions and consider whether to let them back into FOFC.

[Deattribution]

This does actually present an interesting opportunity. Instead of boxing people here, FNs' board could be like the FOFC prison where they get an opportunity to rehabilitate. Then a parole board would hear petitions and consider whether to let them back into FOFC.

If they all go on rants like druez... it should be an easy decision :)

[SirFozzie]

Ping: Sir Fozzie

Cannon: kcchief19 :P *BOOM!*

[Desnudo]

If they all go on rants like druez... it should be an easy decision :)

I think Druez has a long way to go. Maybe put in solitary for a while so he can't influence the others.

[SirFozzie]

'Sup Winner?

Gold. Pure Gold.

We need a reality show where druez constantly finds new things to infiltrate, before being banned/tar and feathered/run out of town/lynched.

First episode: Druez becomes a Hell's Angel...

[illinifan999]

I was in this thread.

[st.cronin]

First episode: Druez becomes a Hell's Angel...

brilliant

[oliegirl]

This does actually present an interesting opportunity. Instead of boxing people here, FNs' board could be like the FOFC prison where they get an opportunity to rehabilitate. Then a parole board would hear petitions and consider whether to let them back into FOFC.


It'll be the Betty Ford Clinic of FOFC!!!! Where all the "it" people go to rehab... :D

[astrosfan64]

I just can't see how that forum is going to turn out well. We will see... at the very least it should be fun or it will simply fade away. The funny thing about this most is most of the people who are going over there really are whiney bitches who at one time or another did applaud Skydogs actions, only to change their mind when it was someone they liked or they were nailed for doing something wrong.

I think SD does a good job of modding this site.

[Glengoyne]

Damn. I thought Jim had blindsided us and this was an announcement for Front Office Fire Department.After the olympics I was hoping for Front Office Curling!

[st.cronin]

Anybody know who this is (I'm pretty sure it's not SkyDog): You can find my Christain site here. This is where I claim to love God, my family and show the world how much of a man I am. I spend my time with the youth and in the christian community but when they are not around I shed the snake skin and behold - it is me in the light of truth. Well, really my faith in God is actually a cloak. I'm really the type of person who exploits and once the back of a person is turned I drive deep the dagger of lies and deceit.

Sincerally,
Ben E. Louis

[WVUFAN]

I emailed FranklinNobel this, and posted it in the FOFD thing. Thought i'd put it here as well for some feedback. My suggestion would be for a forum IN ADDITION to this one, not an alternative, specifically for political discussions so Skydog can stop having to worry about them. Opinions would be appreciated.


I've read and agree with several of the points that, if done right, this concept could be a good forum to be used in addition to the FOFC. Hell, this could very well be a place one could go for those political discussions, and give SkyDog an easy way out of the political threads -- just direct them this way.

This sort of thing does not happen overnight, and everyone knows EZBoard may not the best way, although I really commend FranklinNoble for doing what many of us didn't do (including me), and that is try to find a solution rather than bitch and moan (which I did as much or more than anyone else). FranklinNobel asked me to post my suggestion here and get feedback.

I have a fully paid website, with dedicated bulletin board software ready to be used for this forum. It has no ads, and the color scheme can easily be changed. It's at least the equal (I think it's superior) to VBulletin, and it has 600 megs of space for an actual website as well, if someone has HTML knowledge. Basically I paid for it intending for it to be a BBCF league page, but that never panned out, so I paid for it for two years. It's just sitting there.

I'm more than happy to turn it over to the people here at FOFD. I'm not asking, nor would I expect to be a moderator. Just thought I'd offer it.

If someone would like to see the bulletin board, the webpage (and I can easily change the URL to something more appropriate) is www.ncaacfl.org/smf

Thanks for reading.

[Grammaticus]

Jumbo Sal-avea

Ladders: 61/68
Hoses: 27/41
Firetruck driving: 38/77
CPR: 7/11
Rescuing cats in trees: 0
Ouch, I hope Jumbo never has to pull CPR on me. A second grader got more skilz than that.

[Blade6119]

Anybody know who this is (I'm pretty sure it's not SkyDog):
Sky goes by Ben E Lou...not louis...i dont know who it is, but its not him...god, people on both side really let me down...

[SirFozzie]

There's only a couple guys in that group that are juvenile to think that's funny, and I know who MY money is on this situation... just further immaturity from one who pretty much defined it here and on other boards.

[astrosfan64]

That wasn't cool at all.

[Glengoyne]

No interest in seeing Franklin naked.Turns out that picture of SkyDog doing the splits on his porch.

Turns out it's really FN. I guess they do all look alike.http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/biggrin.gif Well at least when they wear those patriotic undies.


Edit:just to note that I'm not sure I should let this post stand. Pushing the envelope of my own limits I guess.

[Swaggs]

Edit:just to note that I'm not sure I should let this post stand. Pushing the envelope of my own limits I guess.


I'd kill it.

[IwasHere]

Is Impeachment an option?

Maybe the FOFC needs new leadership?

If enough people here feel that SkyDog is out of control and is no longer a good representative for the FOFC Community then maybe he should step down, or be forced to step down.

[Subby]

Is Impeachment an option?

Maybe the FOFC needs new leadership?

If enough people here feel that SkyDog is out of control and is no longer a good representative for the FOFC Community then maybe he should step down, or be forced to step down.Good luck with that...

[JeeberD]

I think SD does a good job of modding this site.

I'll agree with you there. But I'm also posting over there because I've considered Franky a friend for a number of years and I hope his board takes off. The more places to discuss sports and text sims, the better.

[JPhillips]

I think Franklin should add one rule, No Discussion of SkyDog.

Its a very unappealing place for me as it stands. I have no interest in watching bitch fests about other board's mods. I think Franklin would do himself a big favor if he eliminated that.

[WSUCougar]

I think Druez has a long way to go. Maybe put in solitary for a while so he can't influence the others.
Cooler.

[KWhit]

So do we know who that Sacred Swine guy is over there yet?

[JeeberD]

Someone from the OOTP board, apparently. I don't post over there so I don't recognize the posting style...

[astrosfan64]

I'll agree with you there. But I'm also posting over there because I've considered Franky a friend for a number of years and I hope his board takes off. The more places to discuss sports and text sims, the better.


Agreed, I'm lurking there.

[Franklinnoble]

Agreed, I'm lurking there.I'm trying to curb the SkyDog bashing... I really am... I figure those responsible are venting, and should have it out of their systems shortly.

In the meantime, I'm doing my best to encourage positive and unique discussion.