View Full Version : It Came From the Eightees...
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:10 PM
Which one do you still enjoy the most today?
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:13 PM
Kodos likes polls!:) I promise this is the last one of the day!;)
scooper
01-31-2003, 04:13 PM
Back then it was Motley Crue. However, now it's GNR by a long shot.
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:17 PM
Damn it! I spelled "eighties" wrong...:(
Fonzie
01-31-2003, 04:27 PM
Def Leppard's early 80's music is tops for me (of those on this list, that is). I still listen to "Pyromania" every once in a while.
Van Halen would be a close second. Oh how I long for the days when Eddie was constantly drunk! :)
cthomer5000
01-31-2003, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
Damn it! I spelled "eighties" wrong...:(
and since we can't edit the actual thread title, you'll be considered a moron forever. It's a particularly lousy day to do it on, since we've got grammar police out in full force. :p
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:29 PM
Sub-poll. Sammy or Dave?
My answer: Sammy.
Marmel
01-31-2003, 04:30 PM
Woohoo! us eardrum poker outers are leading the way.
In the day, the music was good, but since you added the word NOW...... *sigh*
Fritz
01-31-2003, 04:31 PM
in the day the music listed in the poll was crap (with the exception of the pre sammy van halen)
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:31 PM
I knew the eardrums option was the clear favorite to win. Lotsa haters out there!
I unabashedly love some of these groups to this day, including their newer albums.
Marmel
01-31-2003, 04:32 PM
Fritz, could you please provide a cite for the fact that all that music was crap? thanks. :)
cthomer5000
01-31-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
Sub-poll. Sammy or Dave?
My answer: Sammy.
I really hope you're joking with that answer.
Jump vs. How Do I Know When It's Love?
not even close.
Marmel
01-31-2003, 04:37 PM
Yeah, really Kodos. Its one thing to still like 80's music (2 decades old), it is another thing all-together to think Sammy was better. Poor, poor Kodos.
Ben E Lou
01-31-2003, 04:38 PM
All I can say to this thread is....
Rise up gather 'round. Rock this place to the ground.
Burn it up. Let's go for broke. Watch the night go up in smoke.
Rock on. Rock on.
Drive me crazier. No serenade. No fire brigade.
Just-a pyromania
Come on.
What do you want?
What do you want?
I want rock 'n' roll.
Alright
Long live rock 'n' roll...
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:39 PM
Perhaps we should judge them on solo careers. Sammy clearly has been more successful than Dave. And Sammy can actually sing.
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:40 PM
You bet'cha!
Long live Rock 'n' Roll!
cthomer5000
01-31-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
Perhaps we should judge them on solo careers. Sammy clearly has been more successful than Dave. And Sammy can actually sing.
I Can't Drive 55 vs. Just a Gigilo/I ain't got nobody?
again, you're cleary going insane!
HornedFrog Purple
01-31-2003, 04:43 PM
I felt bad for Poison so I voted for them.
Fonzie
01-31-2003, 04:44 PM
At the time I preferred the Sammy version, but in retrospect I'd have to go with the Diamond Dave era. Partly because they were a better "party" band, but largely because Eddie changed his guitar sound after Sammy joined. For me, Eddie kind of lost his edge at that point.
BTW, have any of you David Lee Roth lately? He looks absolutely hideous ! Time to give in to the hairline, Dave. :rolleyes:
Marmel
01-31-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by cthomer5000
I Can't Drive 55 vs. Just a Gigilo/I ain't got nobody?
again, you're cleary going insane!
Listen to the man...he knows what he is talking about.
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:44 PM
Do NOT under any circumstances buy Poison's last album, "Hollyweird". It's even worse than a Nirvana album.
Marmel
01-31-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
Do NOT under any circumstances by Poison's last album, "Hollyweird". It's even worse than a Nirvana album.
Uhmmm, OK. I won't. ;) :D
cthomer5000
01-31-2003, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
It's even worse than a Nirvana album.
I rest my case. what the hell is he thinking?
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:46 PM
Have you ever listed to A Little Ain't Enough or Your Filthy Little Mouth. Or caught his quickly cancelled Las Vegas show? YEEEEEEEEESH! :eek:
Marmel
01-31-2003, 04:47 PM
He had Steve Vai playing guitar for him!
Kodos
01-31-2003, 04:49 PM
I think Kurt Cobain hurt music more than any other person in my lifetime. Just awful! He single-handedly made feeling sorry for yourself fashionable for an entire generation. Ugh.
HornedFrog Purple
01-31-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
I think Kurt Cobain hurt music more than any other person in my lifetime. Just awful! He single-handedly made feeling sorry for yourself fashionable for an entire generation. Ugh.
Oh dear, I must say aliens are gluttons for punishment.
Ksyrup
01-31-2003, 05:21 PM
I always thought that as musicians, Tesla was a cut above the rest of the 80's hair bands. I mean, look at those guys. An 80's hair band that ugly HAD to be good to make it!
Qwikshot
01-31-2003, 05:24 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah...hair bands were just bad (save Van Halen)...I mean record companies were signing guys up just because of their hair, seriously...all had their heyday...I think Nirvana made a lot of people, the not so pretty people, the regular people, identify with music instead of the hedonistic ritual that was rock and roll...but what do I know, Cobain blew his brains out and as I far as I know all of these bands members are alive (save Def and Warrant), go figure...
Eighties music to me was Talking Heads, Cars, Billy Idol, Michael Jackson...
sabotai
01-31-2003, 05:26 PM
I'm not so sure that I'd include GNR as a pop metal band...
Also, Kodos, since the eardrum pokers are way in the lead, it seems Cobain did a lot of good too. If it weren't for Nirvana, Poison and the rest of those freaks might have gone a few more years.
If I had to go through junior high school without Nirvana and Alice in Chains, I might have made school shootings an early nineties thing / late eighties thing.
Kodos
01-31-2003, 05:28 PM
Poking eardrums is only beating the pop metal groups individually. Overall, pop metal is getting more positive votes than negative. So there!
andy m
01-31-2003, 05:28 PM
this thread should have been called: "here is a list of really bad bands, just vote for one of them or something"
korme
01-31-2003, 05:29 PM
<-- commences poking eardrums
Fritz
01-31-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Marmel
Fritz, could you please provide a cite for the fact that all that music was crap? thanks. :)
Sure
Book of Dweezel 12:21
The men dressed like cheap women and made a ruckus with their instruments and wailed. For 10 years they ruckused and wailed. And after ten years of ruckusing and wailing God sent Vanilla Ice to wreak vengeance upon those who would ruckus and wail and dress as cheap women. Vanilla Ice sampled and condemned the ruckusers and wailers to play only in the titty bars and he banished their works to K-Tel, and God was pleased.
Fritz
01-31-2003, 05:47 PM
dola
I wonder if Darkiller thinks Steve Young should be in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...
Anrhydeddu
01-31-2003, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
I think Kurt Cobain hurt music more than any other person in my lifetime. Just awful! He single-handedly made feeling sorry for yourself fashionable for an entire generation. Ugh.
Gotta side with the alien on this one.
With most of the between 22 and 33, it doesn't surprise that there is a dichotomy between 80s music and 90s music. It seems that the bias is whatever the music was during your teen years. That's why for me, it's the music of the 70s (pre-disco).
In all, there's nothing wrong with 80s bands listed, you had to be there and judge them in their own time.
As far as how they age, any band that was playing before 1993 are certainly better than any that started since then. :p
sterlingice
01-31-2003, 06:05 PM
Eighties music to me was Talking Heads, Cars, Billy Idol, Michael Jackson...
You sound like my girlfriend. :p
Well, I definately can't deny, for instance, that Michael Jackson and Madonna were music GODS the likes of which we don't have now.
I think Kurt Cobain hurt music more than any other person in my lifetime. Just awful! He single-handedly made feeling sorry for yourself fashionable for an entire generation. Ugh.
Hey, Kodos- even if everyone else is turning on ya- I'm with you. And I even agree with you on the Nirvana point. Then again, I have every Halen album made (even that piece of crap coaster with Gary Cherone or whatever the hell his name was) because that was when music was fun.
Don't get me wrong- I have some Nirvana in my collection as well as some of the other big groups from the early 90s (Pearl Jam, STP, Soundgarden, Alice in Chain, etc) but the music just isn't as fun as 80's music. Also, I still hate the fact that the 90's were the decade of the giant flushing sound from Metallica's music.
Ultimately, Kurt Cobain's death and subsequent immortalization by many music fans lead to the splintering of rock music, knocking it from the place of dominance and allowed for the 90s to be a decade where rap, a resurgence of country, rap-rock, and now manufactured groups (britney, backstreet, et al) claim a larger following than they otherwise would have. Many consider this a good thing, but I prefer that hard rock style of music, and the pickings have been quite slim lately for fans.
SI
mckerney
01-31-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
I knew the eardrums option was the clear favorite to win. Lotsa haters out there!
I unabashedly love some of these groups to this day, including their newer albums.
I'll stick to Christopher Ender Carrabba, thank you.
Qwikshot
01-31-2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
You sound like my girlfriend. :p
Well, I definately can't deny, for instance, that Michael Jackson and Madonna were music GODS the likes of which we don't have now.
Hey, Kodos- even if everyone else is turning on ya- I'm with you. And I even agree with you on the Nirvana point. Then again, I have every Halen album made (even that piece of crap coaster with Gary Cherone or whatever the hell his name was) because that was when music was fun.
Don't get me wrong- I have some Nirvana in my collection as well as some of the other big groups from the early 90s (Pearl Jam, STP, Soundgarden, Alice in Chain, etc) but the music just isn't as fun as 80's music. Also, I still hate the fact that the 90's were the decade of the giant flushing sound from Metallica's music.
Ultimately, Kurt Cobain's death and subsequent immortalization by many music fans lead to the splintering of rock music, knocking it from the place of dominance and allowed for the 90s to be a decade where rap, a resurgence of country, rap-rock, and now manufactured groups (britney, backstreet, et al) claim a larger following than they otherwise would have. Many consider this a good thing, but I prefer that hard rock style of music, and the pickings have been quite slim lately for fans.
SI
With all due respect there was dark music in the 80's as well, Joy Division, The Smiths, the Cure which added a murky undersurface to the joyful rock sounds from the West. Even the Talking Heads, Wire, Blondie, Rolling Stones, the Ramones, the Police, Queen had darker undertones, that's pretty much what I listened too...my friends listened to Warrant, Stryper, Evil Toys, Extreme, and all the like...I'm not saying it was bad, it just wasn't my thing...
Actually I remember vividly when I was like 11 or 12 wandering the music section and a group of goth chicks that were like 14 or 15 were hunting for the latest Cannibal Corpse...the one screamed at me in anger/anguish, the cute one apologized to me underneath her neon hair...
I grew up to MTV, I had Thriller when I was in grade school. For the longest time I had to absorb my father's love of the Rolling Stones and the classic rock albums, my mom was an 70's easy rock sounds like Gerry Rafferty, Stealers Wheel, etc...plus she loved Barry Manilow...and I was stuck listening to Mr. Mister, Cameo, Michael Jackson, Billy Idol, Cyndy Lauper, etc...
Now I have over 700 CD's you'll find anything to AC/DC to Warren Zevon there...
Honolulu Blue
01-31-2003, 07:22 PM
I voted for Def Leppard, though I slightly prefer the sweet sounds of RATT (not a choice, for shame).
Van Halen is all right; little use for any of the other bands listed.
I understand what she's telling me
It's so clear even I can see
You wanna play, you've gotta pay! - RATT, "She Wants Money"
cthomer5000
01-31-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Fritz
dola
I wonder if Darkiller thinks Steve Young should be in Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...
come on, lets be serious. That honor is only reserved for the imaginary Brock Sherriff. ;)
McSweeny
01-31-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Qwikshot
Eighties music to me was Talking Heads, Cars, Billy Idol, Michael Jackson...
toss in the clash, the ramones, the dead kennedys, and the police and i agree with ya
Qwikshot
01-31-2003, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by McSweeny
toss in the clash, the ramones, the dead kennedys, and the police and i agree with ya
I added all but the DK's and the Clash, I loved Rock the Casbah but I was a little too young to understand the significance...the Dead Kennedy's I only know from their covers that and Jello Biafra, but I've only read about them...not heard their stuff.
McSweeny
01-31-2003, 07:41 PM
you should really pick up some of the early clash, and 'london calling' is a must have.
McSweeny
01-31-2003, 07:44 PM
oh and the misfits, how could i forget to mention the misfits?
Qwikshot
01-31-2003, 08:14 PM
The you have to get into the really underground bands like
Black Flag
Minor Threat
Bad Brains
Replacements
Minutemen
Butthole Surfers
Sonic Youth
the Germs
Husker Du
Fugazi
the really subversive stuff that didn't get airtime...
Tasan
02-01-2003, 12:26 AM
What, no skid row??? oh yeah, only two albums....nevermind...um, lemme decide now....
Braggadocioussss
02-01-2003, 08:20 AM
Gn'F'nR
Nuff said.
sabotai
02-01-2003, 11:10 AM
Tasan, I'm with you. How could you leave out Skid Row? They were the best hair band, no question about it.
"Don't get me wrong- I have some Nirvana in my collection as well as some of the other big groups from the early 90s (Pearl Jam, STP, Soundgarden, Alice in Chain, etc) but the music just isn't as fun as 80's music. Also, I still hate the fact that the 90's were the decade of the giant flushing sound from Metallica's music."
Ugh, don't remind me. Part of the 80's for me was Metallica. I still get a sick feeling over what they've become.
But all in all, the 80's were, imo, the worst musical decade ever. I like 70's music. I like 60's music. I like 50's. (Chuck Berry pwns you all). I even go back a lot longer ago. I love classical music.
But I hate 80's music. It wasn't fun. It was annoying. Yeah, there are songs here and there that I liked (When a problem comes along, you must whip it!), but most were just...ugh.
Go-Buckeyes
02-01-2003, 11:40 AM
Wait a minute??
Where's The Cure? DePeche Mode?? or dare I say it? The Pet Shop Boys?? or Culture Club??
Kodos
02-01-2003, 02:30 PM
It's a pop metal poll. Those groups weren't pop metal.
Lathum
02-01-2003, 02:34 PM
Whew, that was a tough one because they are all great bands that bring back memories.
I had to go with Tesla because you don't often hear about them so when they come on the radio ( something other than signs) it is a real treat.
lynchjm24
02-01-2003, 03:02 PM
Armageddon it? Oh yeah i'm a gettin it.
dawgfan
02-02-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
As far as how they age, any band that was playing before 1993 are certainly better than any that started since then. :p
I have to disagree with you here - I think there are always good bands making good music in any era. The difference is in how easy is it to find this music and what types of music are being promoted the most at the time.
I know as I get older I've spent less time hunting down music - my music buying has slowed considerably in my 30's, but I still make an effort to try and expose myself (no, not in that way) to new music to broaden my horizons.
May I be so bold as to give you some musical suggestions? Based on what I recall of your musical preferences, here are a few albums I think you might enjoy (if you haven't listened to them already):
Coldplay: Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head - links to AMG reviews here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:45:38|PM&sql=A5luh6j5171t0) and here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:45:38|PM&sql=Aqqjc7i53g72r)
Coldplay have much of the same earnestness and honesty of early U2, with a gift for catchy songs and well-produced arrangements. This is a band worth watching.
Travis: The Invisible Band - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:47:11|PM&sql=Aspdjyl63xpzb)
Another band that recalls elements of U2. Great songwriting, combining simple, beautiful melodies with subtly complex and interesting arrangements.
David Gray: White Ladder - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:51:21|PM&sql=Aehu06j8171w0)
Very passionate singer, on this album his musical arrangements really come together.
If you're feeling a little more adventurous with a taste for more experimental and progressive music, try the following:
Radiohead: OK Computer - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:53:48|PM&sql=A1l65mpzf9ffo)
Radiohead is the most fascinating band working today IMO. You'll find many of the same experimental traits of classic Floyd here, updated for the '90's. This is the transition album for them between the more overtly U2 influenced The Bends and the more experimental records Kid A and Amnesiac.
The Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:53:48|PM&sql=Atf7uak2k0m3l)
The Lips tread similar musical territory to Radiohead, but with a much more whimsical lyrical bent. There are a number of laugh-out-load moments from the lyrics here, along with fascinating music.
If you're looking for something harder-edged but still with a progressive bent, may I suggest:
Tool: Lateralus - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:53:28|PM&sql=Azr6m96bojep2)
If you had any interest in King Crimson, this is the modern, heavier version of that classic group. Tool expertly combines crunching power with progressive atmosphere - along with Radiohead one of the most important bands of the moment.
Just my $0.02, hope you enjoy...
Anrhydeddu
02-02-2003, 07:55 PM
dawgfan: Thank you for taking the time to suggest. I will look into these.
I choose 1993 because that was when the local alternative music radio station died (in favor of urban music, ugh). I still recall the sounds of Toad the Wet Sprocket, Da-Da and others I can't think of (not Spin Doctor, I hated Spin Doctor).
Qwikshot
02-02-2003, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by dawgfan
I have to disagree with you here - I think there are always good bands making good music in any era. The difference is in how easy is it to find this music and what types of music are being promoted the most at the time.
I know as I get older I've spent less time hunting down music - my music buying has slowed considerably in my 30's, but I still make an effort to try and expose myself (no, not in that way) to new music to broaden my horizons.
May I be so bold as to give you some musical suggestions? Based on what I recall of your musical preferences, here are a few albums I think you might enjoy (if you haven't listened to them already):
Coldplay: Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head - links to AMG reviews here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:45:38|PM&sql=A5luh6j5171t0) and here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:45:38|PM&sql=Aqqjc7i53g72r)
Coldplay have much of the same earnestness and honesty of early U2, with a gift for catchy songs and well-produced arrangements. This is a band worth watching.
Travis: The Invisible Band - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:47:11|PM&sql=Aspdjyl63xpzb)
Another band that recalls elements of U2. Great songwriting, combining simple, beautiful melodies with subtly complex and interesting arrangements.
David Gray: White Ladder - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:51:21|PM&sql=Aehu06j8171w0)
Very passionate singer, on this album his musical arrangements really come together.
If you're feeling a little more adventurous with a taste for more experimental and progressive music, try the following:
Radiohead: OK Computer - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:53:48|PM&sql=A1l65mpzf9ffo)
Radiohead is the most fascinating band working today IMO. You'll find many of the same experimental traits of classic Floyd here, updated for the '90's. This is the transition album for them between the more overtly U2 influenced The Bends and the more experimental records Kid A and Amnesiac.
The Flaming Lips: Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:53:48|PM&sql=Atf7uak2k0m3l)
The Lips tread similar musical territory to Radiohead, but with a much more whimsical lyrical bent. There are a number of laugh-out-load moments from the lyrics here, along with fascinating music.
If you're looking for something harder-edged but still with a progressive bent, may I suggest:
Tool: Lateralus - link to AMG review here (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=6:53:28|PM&sql=Azr6m96bojep2)
If you had any interest in King Crimson, this is the modern, heavier version of that classic group. Tool expertly combines crunching power with progressive atmosphere - along with Radiohead one of the most important bands of the moment.
Just my $0.02, hope you enjoy...
Travis is okay, but their music drags a little too much...I would recommend in the same style as Coldplay...Doves, Elbow and Starsailor...also try out Interpol.
Go-Buckeyes
02-03-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Kodos
It's a pop metal poll. Those groups weren't pop metal.
I know, I know....
Just trying to toss in a bit of humor...besides, I was more of a new-waver than a metal type...but I did listen to all that stuff at one point and time. I voted for poking eardrums, but I do like some, well, most actually, of Van Halens stuff...
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