49er's acquire 22nd overall pick fron Broncos

[RedKingGold]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2413928



ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The San Francisco 49ers now have two first-round picks in this month's NFL draft.

The Niners acquired the 22nd overall selection in the draft from the Denver Broncos on Wednesday for picks in the second round and third round.

The Broncos will receive the 37th and 68th overall picks in the deal.

The Niners own the sixth overall pick in the draft as well as No. 22 in the first round.

The New York Jets are the only other team with two first-round picks in the April 29 draft.

The Broncos now own seven picks in the first four rounds. They have the 15th overall selection after moving up from 29th in a deal with Atlanta.

Denver had acquired the 22nd overall pick from Washington in a trade last April.

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Wow! This is surprising because I thought the Niner's were stockpiling draft picks. A trade this early usually signals an attempt to trade up.

[st.cronin]

/wonders what the Broncs are up to

[ISiddiqui]

They got a 2nd and 3rd from the 22nd?! How did the Falcons only get a 3rd and 4th for their 15th! :mad:

Should have dealt with the Niners.

[RedKingGold]

So...the Niner's move up 15 spots...for what?

Could this mean a movement away from Vernon Davis, taking a defensive player with the 6th pick and a wide receiver with the 22nd?

Could this mean an attempt to trade up to get.....A.J. Hawk, D'Brickashaw, or maybe even.....Reggie Bush!?!

[Bad-example]

Trading a high third rounder to move up 15 spots doesn't seem like great value for a team with as many needs as the Niners have. But Nolan and company did a great job with last year's draft, so maybe it will work out.

[Lathum]

I think that with the state the 49rs are in they need as many picks as possible unless they have some other deal in the works to move up to the second or third overall pick.

[Mustang]

There goes my theory that the Broncos were trying to get Walker and the Packers 1st for their 2 1sts and some other lower pick

[Lathum]

dola-
In which case they need Ferguson to protect Smith.

[stevew]

Niners also have 3(22) IIRC, so this is a pretty good move, if they have a plan with #22.

[Samdari]

They got a 2nd and 3rd from the 22nd?! How did the Falcons only get a 3rd and 4th for their 15th! :mad:

Should have dealt with the Niners.

Umm, and John Abraham.

[Schmidty]

/wonders what the Broncs are up to

They've been talking to Joey Harrington for the past week, and an article came out today that their interest is growing. The Lions are asking for at least a 3rd round pick, so this kind of trade makes sense.

[st.cronin]

They've been talking to Joey Harrington for the past week, and an article came out today that their interest is growing. The Lions are asking for at least a 3rd round pick, so this kind of trade makes sense.

That still leaves them with a lot of picks, so they have to be thinking about trading up. Not sure who they'd be looking at, though. Maybe one of the qbs?

[Honolulu_Blue]

They've been talking to Joey Harrington for the past week, and an article came out today that their interest is growing. The Lions are asking for at least a 3rd round pick, so this kind of trade makes sense.

If the Lions get a 3rd round pick for Harrington, the Millen should get the GM of the year award, regardless of how many WRs he takes in the draft.

[Samdari]

There was always a lot of noise when the niners were in contention for the #1 about their interest in Bush. I wonder if they are planning on packaging the 6 and 15 and XXX to move up and get Reggie.

As for the Broncos, the scuttlebut was that they were going to try to springboard from 15 into the top 6, and failing that, they would try to trade back and get more picks. I guess they did not have enough to get to Vernon Davis land.

[WSUCougar]

By the way, that trade was an exact match (780 points) on the Draft Pick Value Chart.

[bulletsponge]

There was always a lot of noise when the niners were in contention for the #1 about their interest in Bush. I wonder if they are planning on packaging the 6 and 15 and XXX to move up and get Reggie.

oohh intersesting. then maybe, just maybe Vince Young will be available for the Texans at #6


PS where do i find the smileys for this board?

[Mr. Sparkle]

So...the Niner's move up 15 spots...for what?

Could this mean a movement away from Vernon Davis, taking a defensive player with the 6th pick and a wide receiver with the 22nd?

Could this mean an attempt to trade up to get.....A.J. Hawk, D'Brickashaw, or maybe even.....Reggie Bush!?!


I don't think the Niners would trade up from the 6th spot. What I think will happen is Vernon Davis at 6, then probably Manny Lawson if he's available at 22. If he's gone, probably their highest rated LB or CB. Should be interesting.

[Lathum]

There was always a lot of noise when the niners were in contention for the #1 about their interest in Bush. I wonder if they are planning on packaging the 6 and 15 and XXX to move up and get Reggie.

As for the Broncos, the scuttlebut was that they were going to try to springboard from 15 into the top 6, and failing that, they would try to trade back and get more picks. I guess they did not have enough to get to Vernon Davis land.
I don't think there is any way possible the Texans are gonna trade this pick

[Butter]

But Nolan and company did a great job with last year's draft, so maybe it will work out.

You're talking about the same team that took Alex Smith, right?

Just checkin'.

[kcchief19]

That still leaves them with a lot of picks, so they have to be thinking about trading up. Not sure who they'd be looking at, though. Maybe one of the qbs?
Stockpiling middle round picks won't help the Broncos move up to get a high first round pick though.

I'm not sure what this means. Conventional wisdom would suggest that the Niners have something in mind, because it doesn't make any sense right now to move up to the 22nd pick -- that's a draft-day trade based on getting the guy you want. It makes more sense to theorize that they are attempting to stockpile another first-round pick for moving up in the first round.

Then again, you never know what the Broncos are up to. Are they trying to trade for Harrington and want some more middle round picks to get it done? Are they looking at a restricted free agent and need some picks? Has the NFL finally caught on to their salary cap shennanigans and penalizing them a a third-round pick? :)

It seems more likely the Niners are trying to move up. I don't see a real reason to move up for a quarterback. Is there something cooking for them to move up to take Bush? I can certainly see Houston trading out of the No. 1 spot so they are forced into the Bush or Young quandry. They could trade out of No. 1 with the Niners and hope Young falls to No. 6, if they really want Young.

[Swaggs]

I wonder what the benefit is, for the Broncos, in doing this now, rather than later?

I would want to see if someone I really valued might slide to me at 22 (it is realistic to suggest that someone they consider at 15 may slide down to 22). You might end up with two of the top 15 or 18 players on your draft board.

[Samdari]

I don't think there is any way possible the Texans are gonna trade this pick

Interesting, most reports have them calling everyone, desperate to trade it.

EDIT: Oh yeah, one report on the radio just said they needed an early 2 to trade for Javon Walker.

[bulletsponge]

It seems more likely the Niners are trying to move up. I don't see a real reason to move up for a quarterback. Is there something cooking for them to move up to take Bush? I can certainly see Houston trading out of the No. 1 spot so they are forced into the Bush or Young quandry. They could trade out of No. 1 with the Niners and hope Young falls to No. 6, if they really want Young.

If there is a trade between the Texans and 49ers, dont be suprised if it doesnt happen until the 6th pick, the Texans will take Bush, and then if Young is still available at 6 then they might trade bush to the 9ers

[Lathum]

why would the Texans pick up the option on Carr and draft Young?

[Mr. Sparkle]

Also, the Niners are interested in Javon Walker. They reportedly offered a 2007 2nd rounder for him, but the Packers wanted a 2006 pick. Maybe, and I don't know how realistic an offer like this would be, but maybe they trade the 22nd pick for Walker and the Packer's 2nd, or something similar to that. I don't know how that would work value-wise, but I am really surprised by this deal so who knows.

[Honolulu_Blue]

why would the Texans pick up the option on Carr and draft Young?

You can never have too many players at one position, espcially first rounders. See, e.g., Detroit Lions, wide receivers.

[Vince]

You can never have too many players at one position, espcially first rounders. See, e.g., Detroit Lions, wide receivers.

Or perhaps they want Young, but want to develop him a little before giving him the starter's job.

[saldana]

it doesnt matter, the niners will still suck...this is all academic..they have no O-Line, no Wide receivers, and their best defensive player in the last 10 years signed with seattle.

i am getting ready for another 4-12 season of drinking alot.

[RedKingGold]

If the 49er's are trying to trade up, it seems it would be for one of three players: A.J. Hawk, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, or Reggie Bush.

I think a more likely scenario is that the 49er's have fallen in love with A.J. Hawk and are trying to move ahead of the Packer's to take him.

The Jets would then move down and take whichever of the QB's are left standing.

But trading the 22nd and 6th to move up to spots seems a bit too pricey.

[Samdari]

I don't think the Texans have any interest in Young, but need lots of help at lots of positions. If they go to 6, they'll either get Vernon Davis or AJ Hawk. Plus the 15th pick (getting WRs Jackson or Holmes, or OT Winston Justice). That looks like a pretty good draft to me if I am the Texans, plus I probably get a #2 next year as well.

[RedKingGold]

it doesnt matter, the niners will still suck...this is all academic..they have no O-Line, no Wide receivers, and their best defensive player in the last 10 years signed with seattle.

i am getting ready for another 4-12 season of drinking alot.

Ye of little faith...

I don't think the Texans have any interest in Young, but need lots of help at lots of positions. If they go to 6, they'll either get Vernon Davis or AJ Hawk. Plus the 15th pick (getting WRs Jackson or Holmes, or OT Winston Justice). That looks like a pretty good draft to me if I am the Texans, plus I probably get a #2 next year as well.

BTW, it was the 22nd pick they acquired NOT the 15th

[stevew]

The Niners have the 22nd pick, not the 15th.

[Surtt]

Denver traded their 22nd pick, not the 15th.
So San Fran has 6 & 22.

[Samdari]

Denver traded their 22nd pick, not the 15th.
So San Fran has 6 & 22.

Ah, that makes the trade for #1 harder to do.

[Bad-example]

I would say there is very little chance the Niners want to move up to the #1 spot. They already have a number one pick sucking up salary cap space. They have so many needs and RB is not one of them. They still might want to trade down from #6 on draft day, but trading up seems pretty unlikely. I could see them taking Vernon Davis at #6 and the best DE, LB or CB on their board at 22.

And I disagree about the Niner O-line. They have some quality building blocks in place and should expect improvement this year with the return of Jennings and Newberry.

[revrew]

I don't think the Broncos are looking at trading up at all. In fact, I think this was a good move to get more value players.

At #15, consensus is the Broncos will be looking for one of the top two WRs (Hopefully Florida's Chad Jackson, who looks like a young Rod Smith).

For their second pick, many think the Broncos want LenDale White. But his stock is dropping so fast right now, it's certainly possible he may be available at the 49ers second round pick. Even if he isn't, there will likely be a back that fits Bronco style available there.

The Broncos also need tight end, but Vernon Davis won't be around at #22, while grabbing another second gives them a chance at one of the #3 through #5 tight ends, all of whom are ranked pretty evenly.

Great trade for the Broncos considering where the depth and needs are this year. Hopefully, there will be a big run on cornerbacks, since the Broncos don't need that position and such a run will allow better players at other positions to fall.

[Galaxy]

I feel bad for the team that gets A.J. Hawk, and his girlfriend. :D

[MrBug708]

Boo!

[Swaggs]

I don't think the Broncos are looking at trading up at all. In fact, I think this was a good move to get more value players.

At #15, consensus is the Broncos will be looking for one of the top two WRs (Hopefully Florida's Chad Jackson, who looks like a young Rod Smith).

For their second pick, many think the Broncos want LenDale White. But his stock is dropping so fast right now, it's certainly possible he may be available at the 49ers second round pick. Even if he isn't, there will likely be a back that fits Bronco style available there.

The Broncos also need tight end, but Vernon Davis won't be around at #22, while grabbing another second gives them a chance at one of the #3 through #5 tight ends, all of whom are ranked pretty evenly.

Great trade for the Broncos considering where the depth and needs are this year. Hopefully, there will be a big run on cornerbacks, since the Broncos don't need that position and such a run will allow better players at other positions to fall.

I think there is a very, very good chance that the Steelers will take LenDale White if he is available at their spot. They apparently had a meeting with him today and things went very well.

[revrew]

I think there is a very, very good chance that the Steelers will take LenDale White if he is available at their spot. They apparently had a meeting with him today and things went very well.

Interesting. Nonetheless, the Broncos have flexibility. There are a half-dozen running backs the Broncos could use in their system, so I don't think they're too worried. If White, the kid from Memphis, and the kid from Minnesota are all gone at their top second round pick, they'll probably use that pick on their preferred tight end and wait to get a RB later.

It really is a tremendous advantage to have an O-line/running system that doesn't need an all-around talent to thrive (see Reuben Draughns, Mike Anderson), just a certain type, with specific skills. That means the Broncos never have to overpay for a back, and they can take a player other teams aren't as interested in.

[RedKingGold]

The more and more I think about it, the more I like this 49er's trade. At the 22nd spot, the team will be able to get the outside linebacker it needs (which would probably be gone by the second round).

Another alternative that has me really excited is if DeAngelo Williams somehow falls to that 22nd pick. There were rumors back at the Senior Bowl that Nolan really liked him, and with Turner has the OC, Williams might be his Emmitt Smith.

Imagine if Niner's somehow got both Vernon Davis and DeAngelo Williams...those would be some nice weapons for Smith

[Mr. Sparkle]

I will be extremely disappointed if the Niners take a running back on the first day, let alone the first round.

[clintl]

I will, too. They need receivers, OL, and pretty much everything on defense.

[Vince]

I will, too. They need receivers, OL, and pretty much everything on defense.

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