FOFC Mock NFL Draft (1.30: Colts are on the clock)

[WSUCougar]

We've done this sort of thing in prior years, and given the possibilities of the2006 draft being a wild one, I thought it'd be fun to try it again.

Basic rules:

1. Claim a team only if you will be online enough to participate.
2. Once all team's are claimed, we will lock the draft order and proceed.
3. Draft picks should be made as promptly as possible. When you make a pick, PM the next person on the clock. We'll start with no clock but I will institute a timer if/when we bog down.
4. Trades are allowed, but must be approved. Once a trade is proposed, I will kick it to a neutral party for a ruling on fairness. You may trade lower picks and players, but all trades will be judged from the perspective of what best helps your team.

Claims are awarded on a first post, first served. I am claiming the Vikes. :D

Here's the current draft order (please post any corrections).

1. Houston (bulletsponge): RB Reggie Bush, USC
2. New Orleans (rewissick): OT D‘Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
3. Tennessee (duckman): QB Matt Leinart, USC
4. New York Jets (cthomer5000): QB Vince Young, Texas
5. Green Bay (Mustang): DE Mario Williams, NC State
6. San Francisco (RedKingGold): LB AJ Hawk, Ohio State
7. Oakland (DeToxRoxDVHStyle): S Michael Huff, Texas
8. Minnesota (WSUCougar): QB Jay Cutler, Vandy
9. St. Louis (primelord): TE Vernon Davis, Maryland
10. Arizona (Deattribution): OT Winston Justice, USC
11. Detroit (Schmidty): DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon
12. Cleveland (CleBrownsfan): DE Kamerion Wimbley, Florida St
13. Baltimore (Karlifornia): DB Jimmy Williams, Virginia Tech
14. Philadelphia (Eaglesfan27): WR Chad Jackson, Florida
15. Denver (soapy): WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State
16. Miami (GreenMonster): DT Brodrick Bunkley, Florida State
17. Buffalo (BuffaloHuskey): C Nick Mangold, Ohio State
18. Dallas (TazFTW): DE Manny Lawson, North Carolina State
19. San Diego (dangarion): CB Tye Hill, Clemson
20. Detroit (Schmidty): LB Chad Greenway, Iowa
21. New England (Sublime2): LB Ernie Sims, Florida State
22. San Francisco (RedKingGold): CB Antonio Cromartie, Florida State
23. Tampa Bay (BC Bob): G Davin Joseph, Oklahoma
24. Cincinnati (JPhillips): CB Jonathan Joseph, South Carolina
25. New York Giants (Fighter of Foo): LB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State
26. Pittsburgh (Swaggs): RB LenDale White, USC
27. Carolina (Dark Cloud): S Jason Allen, Tennessee
28. Jacksonville (Samdari): RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis
29. San Francisco (RedKingGold): WR Siniorce Moss, Miami

30. Indianapolis (Noble Platypus)
31. Seattle (Travis)
32. Chicago (Coffee Warlord)

[JPhillips]

I'd love Cincy

[Mustang]

Green Bay please...

[JPhillips]

I should add that I'm more than willing to take all advice from the Ciny fan contingent on the board.

[RedKingGold]

San Francisco 49ers please

[cthomer5000]

Jets

[primelord]

St. Louis

[WSUCougar]

In a shocking development...St. Louis

[bulletsponge]

Houston! Since you took my Vikes ill take my home team

[BuffaloHuskey]

Buffalo please

[Schmidty]

Lions please.

[Swaggs]

Steelers!!!

[Sublime 2]

Patriots bitte

[Samdari]

Redskins!

Oh wait.

[CleBrownsfan]

I'll take the Browns please!

[GreenMonster]

I will take the Dolphins.. only a few picks in this draft after all the trades..

[rewissick]

When do you plan on kicking this off? I won't be around much over the weekend, but if you think we'll start up early next week, I'd like to claim the Saints. (and let everyone know that pick is VERY available...)

[primelord]

In a shocking development...

Yes, I am quite unpredictable. ;)

[Schmidty]

Does anyone know where I can find that draft pick value chart for trades?

[WSUCougar]

Just a reminder - this thread will only cover the first round of the draft.

Rewissick, I put you in for the Saints. Things will move a lot slower on the weekend so no worries.

Those of you already on board, feel free to talk trade!

[WSUCougar]

Does anyone know where I can find that draft pick value chart for trades?
Here's one:

Draft pick value chart (http://www.thehuddlereport.com/NickelPackage/tradevaluechart.htm)

[Schmidty]

Here's one:

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/NickelPackage/tradevaluechart.htm (Draft pick value chart)

Thanks.

[WSUCougar]

I fixed the goofy link.

[Eaglesfan27]

Eagles please ;)

[WSUCougar]

Eagles please ;)
Another shocker!

[bulletsponge]

Here's one:

Draft pick value chart

that will come in handy since i got the first pick ;) (hint hint)

[DeToxRox]

Raiders

[scooper]

I'd love Cincy

Go defense or I'm hunting you down. :D

[JPhillips]

Scooper: I'm going to take TSN's advice and pick Nick Mangold!

[scooper]

Scooper: I'm going to take TSN's advice and pick Nick Mangold!

Maryland huh? I haven't been to the east coast in awhile. :mad:

[DanGarion]

So when are we planning on starting?

I'll take the San Diego Chargers.

[JPhillips]

Scooper: Come on, with Braham, Ghiacuc, Wilkerson and Mangold we'd have the best and deepest collection of centers in the game. We could play one each down and they'd never get tired.

[WSUCougar]

So when are we planning on starting?
As soon as possible, but I'd like to give the top picks a little time to consider trade offers. Monday will probably be the first real active day.

[scooper]

Scooper: Come on, with Braham, Ghiacuc, Wilkerson and Mangold we'd have the best and deepest collection of centers in the game. We could play one each down and they'd never get tired.

:D :D :D

They'll never suspect the center sneak.

[Travis]

I'll take Seattle if I'm not missing where somebody else took them already.

[DanGarion]

FYI, I (THE CHARGERS) are shopping ILB Donnie Edwards and Special Teams Pro Bowler Hanik Milligan, to move up.

[kcchief19]

If nobody else has stepped up to take care of the Chiefs, I'll do it.

[WSUCougar]

Team list updated (in the first post)

[TazFTW]

Cowboys please.

[bulletsponge]

Just a reminder - this thread will only cover the first round of the draft.

Rewissick, I put you in for the Saints. Things will move a lot slower on the weekend so no worries.

Those of you already on board, feel free to talk trade!

Im already fielding offers for the 1st pick. and in the name of Fun i am listening to the offers. So grow some Balls and make me an offer!

[duckman]

I'll take Tennessee.

[Deattribution]

I'll take Arizona.

[Mustang]

Packers only have a few picks this year so, looking to trade down and also guage any interest in J. Walker.

[WSUCougar]

The Ravens, Broncos, Bucs, Bears, Panthers, Jags, & Colts are still available.

[BC Bob]

I'll take Tampa Bay.

[WSUCougar]

I'll take Tampa Bay.
You got 'em. Welcome to the board, by the way.

[Karlifornia]

I'll take Baltimore

[soapy]

ill have the Broncos

[Fighter of Foo]

I will take the Giants and try not to make a ridiculously retarded pick. :)

[Greyroofoo]

I wanted Detroit.

Somebody has to make sure they draft a receiver

[Coffee Warlord]

Why not. I'll take Da Bears.

[WSUCougar]

The Panthers, Jags, & Colts are still available.

Okay, let's get this puppy moving.

The Houston Texans are on the clock!

[bulletsponge]

Eeeek! im on the clock! ok ill get the ball rolling

[bulletsponge]

Ok without futhar addo!

With the first pick in the draft, the Houston Texans select RB from USC Reggie Bush



rumors around the league suggest a trade might be in the works

[WSUCougar]

The New Orleans Saints are on the clock.

[rewissick]

After trying to move the pick with no luck, the NO Saints select...

D‘Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia

[albionmoonlight]

After trying to move the pick with no luck, the NO Saints select...

D‘Brickashaw Ferguson, OT Virginia

Just like what will happen in the real draft.

[rewissick]

Just like what will happen in the real draft.

Not to threadjack here, but I think the Saints might get some interest in that pick, especially from the teams in the 6-12 range that might want to move up and grab one of those QBs around. SanFran picked up that extra 1st rounder, and I think they might use it in such a move (just not for a QB...)
Of course, if I knew what I was talking about I'd be a GM of a team, and not messing around on a msg board. ;)

[Samdari]

The Panthers, Jags, & Colts are still available.

Okay, let's get this puppy moving.

The Houston Texans are on the clock!


I'll take the Jags.

[albionmoonlight]

Not to threadjack here, but I think the Saints might get some interest in that pick, especially from the teams in the 6-12 range that might want to move up and grab one of those QBs around. SanFran picked up that extra 1st rounder, and I think they might use it in such a move (just not for a QB...)
Of course, if I knew what I was talking about I'd be a GM of a team, and not messing around on a msg board. ;)

As a Saints fan, I would hope that we could trade down. We have a ton of holes and only two first day picks.

But there seems to be a bit of "bunching" going on both with the top picks and the top quarterbacks. After Bush goes #1, you have Ferguson, Williams, Davis, and Hawk--all who seem to be interchangable as "the studs" in this draft.

And then you have Leinart, Young, and (to a lesser extent) Cutler all bunched as the "stud QBs."

I know that if I were drafting in the top 6-8 or so, I would not feel a need to trade up. I'd be happy letting one of the studs fall to me and not worry so much about which one it is.

Of course, if I knew what I was talking about I'd be a GM of a team, and not messing around on a msg board. ;)

[cthomer5000]

Jets are willing to trade down.. PM me if interested.

[Fighter of Foo]

Giants looking to move into the 10-15 range. Offering this year's 1st, 2nd and a future 3rd or 4th. PM as well

[WSUCougar]

This Titans pick seems like a no-brainer to me...

[duckman]

With the third pick, the Tennessee Titans select...........Matt Leinart, quarterback, Southern California.

[Samdari]

Best player in the draft available at 4....

[RedKingGold]

Best player in the draft available at 4....

LenDale White????

[WSUCougar]

Jets are willing to trade down.. PM me if interested.
Jets are on the clock

[cthomer5000]

QB Vince Young, Texas

1-2-3 basically broke the worst possible way for us. DE isn't a need, and i've been unable to trade down.

[rewissick]

QB Vince Young, Texas

1-2-3 basically broke the worst possible way for us. DE isn't a need, and i've been unable to trade down.


I TOLD you to trade those two first rounders to me for #2OA. ;)

Oh, and if anyone would like to deal for Brick, PM me an offer. Wouldn't mind moving down into the middle of the round for a few extra picks.

[scooper]

QB Vince Young, Texas

1-2-3 basically broke the worst possible way for us. DE isn't a need, and i've been unable to trade down.

You don't think DE is a need with Abraham moving on? Will the Jets be running a 3-4? I've heard they could switch but haven't heard for sure. With his size and athleticism, Williams could make an excellent 3-4 end.

[RedKingGold]

Should Williams fall to my pick, 1.6 is available for trade...

[cthomer5000]

You don't think DE is a need with Abraham moving on? Will the Jets be running a 3-4? I've heard they could switch but haven't heard for sure. With his size and athleticism, Williams could make an excellent 3-4 end.
Bryan Thomas can play DE just fine if they run a 4-3. He'lls probbaly move to OLB in a 3-4... Ellis is fine on the other side.

EDIT: Everything is a need for the Jets, but i think if you have a chance to choose a "franchise QB," you do it. Time will tell whether Young can be that guy or not. I think with Young, Ramsey, and Pennington on board, you can find an eventual QB solution in there somewhere. Also, Young wouldn't be pressured to play this year.

[scooper]

Bryan Thomas can play DE just fine if they run a 4-3. He'lls probbaly move to OLB in a 3-4... Ellis is fine on the other side.

Just fine is OK, but you're staring down the best DE prospect since Peppers and one with some size at that. Just fine isn't great.

And isn't Ramsey a "just fine" QB?

I don't dislike your pick. I just like to play devil's advocate. Plus, I really like Mario Williams.

[cthomer5000]

Just fine is OK, but you're staring down the best DE prospect since Peppers and one with some size at that. Just fine isn't great.

And isn't Ramsey a "just fine" QB?

I don't dislike your pick. I just like to play devil's advocate. Plus, I really like Mario Williams.

I think I explained myself pretty clearly. A shot at a potentially oustanding QB is more valuable than a shot at a potentially outstanding DE. If things go like this in real life, I think the Jets likely trade down there.

[scooper]

Everything is a need for the Jets, but i think if you have a chance to choose a "franchise QB," you do it.

I can buy that. I actually like your pick, as I said. It's the kind of pick that would shake up the top 6 and make it intersting from a draft fan's perspective.

[Mustang]

Packers are up with the #5 pick overall.

With the #5 Pick overall, the Packers select - DE Mario Williams, NC State





Having said that, I don't think this will happen Saturday, my belief is that the top 4 will go - Bush/Williams/Young/Ferguson.. Leinhart will be there so, Packers will get some interest and consider him but, in the end Oakland will make a small trade up.. 49ers take Davis and the Packers take Hawk. I fully expect to see Hawk in a Packers uniform and I don't think the Packers will draft in the #5 spot unless Williams is there.

By the way, not saying that 1-4 will go to the current teams drafting in those slots. I could see the Jets moving down a few spots and taking Cutler too...

[RedKingGold]

With the 6th pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the San Francisco 49er's select......OLB A.J. Hawk from Ohio State.

It is a very tough decision over Davis, but if Hawk should fall to number six, I believe Nolan would take him in a heartbeat. Hawk could be Nolan's Ray Lewis in the Bay. Hawk is a very smart player who would have an instant impact on the 49ers.

The Oakland Raiders are now on the clock...

[WSUCougar]

If it breaks down this way I think the Jets will have teams beating down the door to trade up to 1.4

[Samdari]

Bryan Thomas can play DE just fine if they run a 4-3. He'lls probbaly move to OLB in a 3-4... Ellis is fine on the other side.

EDIT: Everything is a need for the Jets, but i think if you have a chance to choose a "franchise QB," you do it. Time will tell whether Young can be that guy or not. I think with Young, Ramsey, and Pennington on board, you can find an eventual QB solution in there somewhere. Also, Young wouldn't be pressured to play this year.

I agree that Mario Williams is not a good fit for the Jets (apparently Mangini is committed to the 3-4). But, I hate the Vince Young pick. I agree with "if you have a chance to take a franchise QB, you do it." I just think Young has no chance to ever be that. The 1-2-3 here is indeed the nightmare scenario for the Jets. The good news is I think it has no chance of happening. Williams is easily the #2 player in this draft, and won't fall to 4.

[rewissick]

I agree that Mario Williams is not a good fit for the Jets (apparently Mangini is committed to the 3-4). But, I hate the Vince Young pick. I agree with "if you have a chance to take a franchise QB, you do it." I just think Young has no chance to ever be that. The 1-2-3 here is indeed the nightmare scenario for the Jets. The good news is I think it has no chance of happening. Williams is easily the #2 player in this draft, and won't fall to 4.


I don't know...picks 1 & 3 are pretty much sure to be Bush at 1 and a QB at 3. The Saints don't have the need for Williams, but they do have a pretty big hole at OT. I think if the Saints hold onto that pick then they'll be happy to take D'Brick. On the other hand, I think it would make sense from a player standpoint (and from a NY media standpoint) to see the Jets move into the #2 slot in exchange for those 2 first rounders. Who they'd take then is pure speculation, of course.

[RedKingGold]

Packers are up with the #5 pick overall.

With the #5 Pick overall, the Packers select - DE Mario Williams, NC State





Having said that, I don't think this will happen Saturday, my belief is that the top 4 will go - Bush/Williams/Young/Ferguson.. Leinhart will be there so, Packers will get some interest and consider him but, in the end Oakland will make a small trade up.. 49ers take Davis and the Packers take Hawk. I fully expect to see Hawk in a Packers uniform and I don't think the Packers will draft in the #5 spot unless Williams is there.

By the way, not saying that 1-4 will go to the current teams drafting in those slots. I could see the Jets moving down a few spots and taking Cutler too...

If your saying that Hawk will be there at #7, you are incorrect my friend. Nolan would take Hawk over Davis in a heartbeat. There have even been rumors of the Niner's trading up to the 4 spot with the Jets to grab Hawk ahead of the Packers...

[BuffaloHuskey]

Looking to move down from #8 to between 13-18, if interested Ping me. I will evaluate the trade based on the Draft pick value chart.

[Vince]

I think with all the talk that's been going on about Williams' draft stock rising that the Saints will probably be able to trade down if they would like to. A swap with the Jets would make perfect sense, because you know that #3 is going to be a QB, and you can still get D'Brick at #4.

[cthomer5000]

I agree that Mario Williams is not a good fit for the Jets (apparently Mangini is committed to the 3-4). But, I hate the Vince Young pick. I agree with "if you have a chance to take a franchise QB, you do it." I just think Young has no chance to ever be that. The 1-2-3 here is indeed the nightmare scenario for the Jets. The good news is I think it has no chance of happening. Williams is easily the #2 player in this draft, and won't fall to 4.

Yeah, in real life i would be stunned if the Jets just sat at 4 and took Vince Young. I was just boxed in here.

[Schmidty]

Can we please bold the picks when they're made? It would just make things easier.

[WSUCougar]

Can we please bold the picks when they're made? It would just make things easier.
FYI, I'm trying to keep the 1st post of the thread updated.

[Schmidty]

FYI, I'm trying to keep the 1st post of the thread updated.

Ok, but I still think it would help if you aren't around. Also, it might make it slightly easier for you to sort through things.

I'm just anal about that stuff.

[WSUCougar]

:D

[DeToxRox]

With the 7th pick in the 2006 NFL Draft ...

The Oakland Raiders select S/DB from Texas, Michael Huff



I really hope this doesn't happen IRL as I am a Lions fan and would love Huff, but the Raiders D is a mess and with the loss of Woodson, they could use a playmaker in the secondary.

[Raiders Army]

I endorse that pick.

[WSUCougar]

Buffalo has traded down, receiving the 1.17, 2.16, and a 2007 4th round pick from Minnesota for the 1.8

[DeToxRox]

I endorse that pick.

Lets hope you're not endorsing that pick Saturday. :)

[WSUCougar]

Vikings are working the phones, but will get their pick in on time...

[RedKingGold]

Ping: Schmidty and Deattribution

you have pm's kind sirs...

[WSUCougar]

Really had my eyes on Vernon Davis, but can't pass up on Cutler.

With the 1.8, Minnesota selects QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt

[Huckleberry]

Interesting.

[Abe Sargent]

Having said that, I don't think this will happen Saturday, my belief is that the top 4 will go - Bush/Williams/Young/Ferguson..


If you think the Titans will go with Young over Leinart, you're crazy. Norm Chow, the guy who made Leinart and other USC QBs in the Titans OC. If they go QB at 3, they are absolutely taking Leinart.


-Anxiety

[Honolulu_Blue]

Don't blow this one, Sparty!

[Deattribution]

Don't blow this one, Sparty!

Now now, calm down, there are several perfectly acceptable receivers for everyone. ;)

[ISiddiqui]

I'm thinking a WR will come in handy right about now ;).

[Coffee Warlord]

Nah. I think it's high time they get themselves a punter.

[Huckleberry]

If you think the Titans will go with Young over Leinart, you're crazy. Norm Chow, the guy who made Leinart and other USC QBs in the Titans OC. If they go QB at 3, they are absolutely taking Leinart.


-Anxiety

It's more complicated than you're making it sound. Fisher and Chow are leaning toward Leinart. Reese and Adams lean toward Young.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Now now, calm down, there are several perfectly acceptable receivers for everyone. ;)

I'm thinking a WR will come in handy right about now ;).

Wheeee!!!

Well, T-minus 6 days and counting...

The end of the "Lions will draft another WR" jokes is a side benefit of draft day I haven't really thought of until now. Assuming, of course, (this is a BIG assumption) that the Lions actually do not draft a WR.

[flere-imsaho]

The end of the "Lions will draft another WR" jokes is a side benefit of draft day I haven't really thought of until now. Assuming, of course, (this is a BIG assumption) that the Lions actually do not draft a WR.

On draft day, the Lions will trade down. And why will they trade down? So they can draft more receivers, of course! :)

[scooper]

It's more complicated than you're making it sound. Fisher and Chow are leaning toward Leinart. Reese and Adams lean toward Young.

That is the speculation at the time. And Norm Chow doesn't sign the checks.

[CleBrownsfan]

I'm leaving now (I have the Browns 12th pick) for a x2 header I have to umpire. I probably wont be able to pick until tomorrow morning.

[albionmoonlight]

Wheeee!!!

Well, T-minus 6 days and counting...

The end of the "Lions will draft another WR" jokes is a side benefit of draft day I haven't really thought of until now. Assuming, of course, (this is a BIG assumption) that the Lions actually do not draft a WR.

I'm just hoping beyond hope that Santonio Holmes shows up to the draft in Lions gear. And that he starts up to the podium with a big smile on his face when the Lions' pick is announced. And then looks shocked and confused when it isn't him.

That would be the best Lions/WR joke ever.

[Schmidty]

I'm here guys. Just trying to sort through the trade offers I've had.

[Schmidty]

primelord, I'm trying to send you a PM, but your PM box is full.

[kingfc22]

Just pick a WR and get it over with.

[Schmidty]

Assuming that the trade is still ok with primelord, here it is:

Detroit Lions trade 1.9 to St. Louis. In return they will recieve the Rams 1.11, 3.13, and 5.11

[primelord]

Assuming that the trade is still ok with primelord, here it is:

Detroit Lions trade 1.9 to St. Louis. In return they will recieve the Rams 1.11, 3.13, and 5.11

Yeah sorry about that. It's clean now, but the pick is still ok with me.

[Schmidty]

Yeah sorry about that. It's clean now, but the pick is still ok with me.

Ok, then I guess you're up. :)

[primelord]

With the 1.9 St. Louis selects TE Vernon Davis, Maryland

We gave up a little too much per the value chart, but I think Davis is going to be an absolute monster and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity.

[Schmidty]

With the 1.9 St. Louis selects TE Vernon Davis, Maryland

We gave up a little too much per the value chart, but I think Davis is going to be an absolute monster and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity.

I really wanted to take him, but he's close enough to a WR, that I couldn't risk further ridicule. :)

[Deattribution]

You both suck :)

[Deattribution]

I really wanted to take him, but he's close enough to a WR, that I couldn't risk further ridicule. :)

Yeah, that was my line of thinking that he was going to fall to 10th.

[Schmidty]

By the way, if anyone else is looking to move up, let me know ASAP.

[Deattribution]

With the 10th overall pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the Arizona Cardinals select - OT Winston Justice, USC

[Travis]

Well, Davis stays in the division though I really thought it would have been SF taking him. Can't say I'd be happy having any team in the NFC West though I hope Boulware would be a decent matchup against him.

[Eaglesfan27]

I really wanted to take him, but he's close enough to a WR, that I couldn't risk further ridicule. :)


:D

[Schmidty]

With the 10th overall pick in the 2006 NFL draft, the Arizona Cardinals select - OT Winston Justice, USC

:(

[Schmidty]

Last chance for people who that want to move up (though I don't want to move down more than 4-5 spots).

[RedKingGold]

And once again...the Lions are SHOT DOWN!

:)

[bulletsponge]

damn im having buyers remorse, i wish i picked Young #1, it would have shooken the draft up completly

[cthomer5000]

You can still nab the top WR.

[Schmidty]

You can still nab the top WR.

That skit on Family Guy where Stewie goes off on that little girl who says "You are the weakest link, goodbye!", comes to mind right now.

[Schmidty]

1.11 DT - Haloti Ngata

With Big Daddy Wilkerson most likely retiring, the Lions will need to fill a huge hole in the D-line next to Shaun Rogers. Ngata is supposedly most suited for the 3-4, but from what I read, not only is he huge and strong, he's also quite quick and agile. That sounds a lot like Shaun Rogers coming out of college. I also think he's the best value left on the board.

[Eaglesfan27]

Nice pick, Schmidty.

[Schmidty]

Nice pick, Schmidty.

Thanks. Hopefully my fellow Lions fans won't be too disappointed in the trade and pick. :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

1.11 DT - Haloti Ngata

With Big Daddy Wilkerson most likely retiring, the Lions will need to fill a huge hole in the D-line next to Shaun Rogers. Ngata is supposedly most suited for the 3-4, but from what I read, not only is he huge and strong, he's also quite quick and agile. That sounds a lot like Shaun Rogers coming out of college. I also think he's the best value left on the board.

Not bad. There is certainly a void left with the likely departure of Wilkerson. Based on what I've read, it appears as if Bunckley (sp?), the DT from Florida State, is allegedly, a better fit in Marinelli's defensive scheme, since he's more of an upfield, agressive, and quick DT - than Ngata. Personally, I have no idea. I don't recall seeing either guy play.

[Schmidty]

Not bad. There is certainly a void left with the likely departure of Wilkerson. Based on what I've read, it appears as if Bunckley (sp?), the DT from Florida State, is allegedly, a better fit in Marinelli's defensive scheme, since he's more of an upfield, agressive, and quick DT - than Ngata. Personally, I have no idea. I don't recall seeing either guy play.

I was seriously considering Bunckley, but there are questions about his work ethic and motor, so that definitely won't work with Marinelli and Henderson in charge.

[Schmidty]

Dola.

There is another guy I really considered as well, but I won't say who it is until he's picked.

[Young Drachma]

If Carolina is still open, then..I'll have them.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Dola.

There is another guy I really considered as well, but I won't say who it is until he's picked.

The only other guy I think I would have given serious consideration too at that spot would have been Ernie Sims.

[Schmidty]

The only other guy I think I would have given serious consideration too at that spot would have been Ernie Sims.

We should probably be talking about it via PM, just in case we unfairly influence the draft.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Agreed.

[Sublime 2]

New England is looking to move up into the 15-17 region. So if any of Denver, Miami, or Buffalo want to move down let me know.

[Karlifornia]

I have to leave for work in about an hour.....I'll be gone for about 5-6 hours, but I will log back in tonight before I go to bed.

[bulletsponge]

Really had my eyes on Vernon Davis, but can't pass up on Cutler.

With the 1.8, Minnesota selects QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt

Ok im a Vikes fan, can i ask why this kid is this high? why do scouts like him, considering he never did much in college

[Schmidty]

Ok im a Vikes fan, can i ask why this kid is this high? why do scouts like him, considering he never did much in college

He's one of those "combine wonders". They're crapshoots, and not worth taking, imho.

[ISiddiqui]

He's one of those "combine wonders". They're crapshoots, and not worth taking, imho.

Not entirely... he was a pretty good QB for Vandy, and even before the combine he was getting praise for his skills.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Schmidty
He's one of those "combine wonders". They're crapshoots, and not worth taking, imho.


Not entirely... he was a pretty good QB for Vandy, and even before the combine he was getting praise for his skills

well i hope the Vikes can get a QB this draft, but one from Texas ;)

[primelord]

He's one of those "combine wonders". They're crapshoots, and not worth taking, imho.

Expanding on what Isiddiqui said... He was considered the 3rd best QB and likely 1st round pick before the post season bowls even started. His Senior Bowl performance has probably done mroe for him than the combine did. The combination of the two though di bring him up from the late first round to possibly the early first.

[Noble_Platypus]

if nobody still has the Colts I will take then

[Schmidty]

So, what's the point where we give up on the guy who's supposed to be picking?

[The Destroyer]

Panthers still open? I'll draft for them!

[Deattribution]

So, what's the point where we give up on the guy who's supposed to be picking?


I'm leaving now (I have the Browns 12th pick) for a x2 header I have to umpire. I probably wont be able to pick until tomorrow morning.

He did announce it ahead of time...

[Schmidty]

He did announce it ahead of time...

Cool. :)

[21C]

Remaining players from Scouts Inc. 1st round:
9. Brodrick Bunkley Sr. DT Florida St.
11. Kamerion Wimbley Sr. DE Florida St.
13. Ernie Sims Jr. OLB Florida St.
15. Chad Jackson Jr. WR Florida
16. Santonio Holmes Jr. WR Ohio St.
17. DeAngelo Williams Sr. RB Memphis
18. Chad Greenway Sr. OLB Iowa
19. Jonathan Joseph Jr. CB S. Carolina
20. Donte Whitner Jr. S Ohio St.
21. Jimmy Williams Sr. DB Virginia Tech
22. Manny Lawson Sr. DE NC State
23. Tye Hill Sr. CB Clemson
24. Laurence Maroney Jr. RB Minnesota
25. Antonio Cromartie Jr. CB Florida St.
26. LenDale White Jr. RB USC
27. Ashton Youboty Jr. CB Ohio St.
28. Mathias Kiwanuka Sr. DE B. College
29. Sinorice Moss Sr. WR Miami-Fla.
30. Nick Mangold Sr. OC Ohio St.
31. Bobby Carpenter Sr. OLB Ohio St.
32. Mercedes Lewis Sr. TE UCLA

I'm seriously interested to see who the Bucs pick up with the 23rd pick. I'm really hoping for a OL but I can't see a Winston Justice type of player falling this far. I'm guessing that someone like Auburn OT Marcus McNeill might land here.

[WSUCougar]

FYI, all teams are booked.

[CleBrownsfan]

12.1 Browns select Kamerion Wimbley Sr. DE Florida St

Ideal fit as a rush-linebacker in the Browns' 3-4 alignment

[Ryche]

Really had my eyes on Vernon Davis, but can't pass up on Cutler.

With the 1.8, Minnesota selects QB Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt

Would love to see Cutler a Viking, but I have a feeling he may slip to them without trading up. Definitely don't want to give up more than a 3rd to get him. (although a trade like yours would not surprise me in the least)

[JPhillips]

1.11 WR - Haloti Ngata

A 330 lb. WR reciever will be a nightmare matchup. Good pick.

[WSUCougar]

Would love to see Cutler a Viking, but I have a feeling he may slip to them without trading up. Definitely don't want to give up more than a 3rd to get him. (although a trade like yours would not surprise me in the least)
Well, I think there's too many QB-hungry teams in front of them for them to expect him to drop to 1.17. But I hear you.

[WSUCougar]

TICK-tick-tick-tick-TICK-tick-tick!

[Eaglesfan27]

The Eagles are anxiously waiting to make their pick :)

[Karlifornia]

The Baltimore Ravens select DB Jimmy Williams, Virginia Tech

[Eaglesfan27]

Excellent! I was a bit afraid that the Ravens might take the guy we really wanted. I'll post the whole analysis of all of the guys I considered later since I don't want to taint the draft.

However, I feel we have one big need, WR. Reggie Brown looks like a potential #1 receiver or at least a VERY good #2 receiver. He has good size, speed, and hands. He made some big plays for us last year. After that, I believe we have a lot of #3 receivers (at best.)

Therefore, I select WR Chad Jackson from Florida. He has size (6'1 213), speed (4.32 in a recent workout), and runs very well after the catch breaking tackles. Explosive burst off the line. He had 88 catches last year, and he has more upside I believe than the other top WR's. He has the potential to be a very good to excellent #1 receiver and give us an excellent pair of young wideouts along with good depth from the other guys on the roster.

(The only thing that worries me is that Florida WR's haven't really done too well in recent years in the NFL.)

[WSUCougar]

That worked out well for the Eagles.

[DanGarion]

I'd love to trade up right now if someone wants Donnie Edwards.

[johnnyshaka]

However, I feel we have one big need, WR. Reggie Brown looks like a potential #1 receiver or at least a VERY good #2 receiver. He has good size, speed, and hands. He made some big plays for us last year. After that, I believe we have a lot of #3 receivers (at best.)

Therefore, I select WR Chad Jackson from Florida. He has size (6'1 213), speed (4.32 in a recent workout), and runs very well after the catch breaking tackles. Explosive burst off the line. He had 88 catches last year, and he has more upside I believe than the other top WR's. He has the potential to be a very good to excellent #1 receiver and give us an excellent pair of young wideouts along with good depth from the other guys on the roster.

I understand where you are coming from with this pick but I'd rather see the defense upgraded here with more help on the D-Line or in the linebacker department. So, if I were picking, I'd be looking at DT Bunkley, OLB Sims, and OLB Greenway...but, that's just me.

[Eaglesfan27]

I definitely was considering OLB. At DT, I would have preferred Ngata. I think the Eagles could still get a good DT in a later round.

Edited to add: I'll discuss my thoughts more after the mock draft is over or we can chat via PM if you want.

[johnnyshaka]

I definitely was considering OLB. At DT, I would have preferred Ngata. I think the Eagles could still get a good DT in a later round.

Edited to add: I'll discuss my thoughts more after the mock draft is over or we can chat via PM if you want.

No worries...I can wait to hear your thoughts along with the rest of the world.

[RedKingGold]

Snore.....................................

[Young Drachma]

lol...maybe it's time for a clock? Just in general, not aimed at a specific person. Otherwise, we'll be drafting when they do the real thing.

[Fighter of Foo]

We are going as fast as the real thing.

[stevew]

Denver GM hasn't even logged into this site since Sunday. I would think it would be a good time to replace him perhaps.

[soapy]

Sorry, didnt expect things to move so fast -

With selection 15, The Denver Broncos select - Santonio Holmes - WR, Ohio State -

Would have liked Cutler or Chad Jackson to fall here, but Holmes strengthens our weakest position. Thinking the Broncos may look at Croyle in the second round.

[MrBigglesworth]

I understand where you are coming from with this pick but I'd rather see the defense upgraded here with more help on the D-Line or in the linebacker department. So, if I were picking, I'd be looking at DT Bunkley, OLB Sims, and OLB Greenway...but, that's just me.
Going by their formula, I think they'll try and move up to get Ngata. Otherwise Jackson is the best available option, then Greenway. I hope they don't get Sims, he sounds to me like another Simoneauaieua.

[MizzouRah]

With the 1.9 St. Louis selects TE Vernon Davis, Maryland

We gave up a little too much per the value chart, but I think Davis is going to be an absolute monster and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity.

I was really scared to open this thread, but you did St. Louis proud Primelord!!

I would take Davis in a heartbeat.

In fact, I don't expect him to last this long. :(

[RedKingGold]

With the 49er's coming up in 6 picks, I have four guys who I hope one of them will fall to me.

If they are not there, I would like to trade down to the bottom of the 1st round.

[Fighter of Foo]

Giants looking to slide up a few picks, not that anyone cares :)

[WSUCougar]

The Dolphins (GreenMonster) are on the clock, but I forgot to put his name on the draft pick list until just now. I have PMed him.

[johnnyshaka]

Going by their formula, I think they'll try and move up to get Ngata. Otherwise Jackson is the best available option, then Greenway. I hope they don't get Sims, he sounds to me like another Simoneauaieua.

I hope they do move up to get Ngata, especially since they've got an abundance of picks and losing a couple of them really wouldn't hurt at all.

[Samdari]

Going by their formula, I think they'll try and move up to get Ngata. Otherwise Jackson is the best available option, then Greenway. I hope they don't get Sims, he sounds to me like another Simoneauaieua.

Sims has elite speed, Simoneauaieua's was average at best.

[GreenMonster]

1.16 Dolphins - DT Brodrick Bunkley, FSU

Keith Traylor and Jeff Zgonina are at the ends of there ropes. Manuel Wright was selected last year, but he isn't ready to play full-time yet, and continues to cry about it.. Bunkley will give us another beast in the trenches to free up Zack Thomas for a year or 2 more..

[revrew]

Sorry, didnt expect things to move so fast -

With selection 15, The Denver Broncos select - Santonio Holmes - WR, Ohio State -

Would have liked Cutler or Chad Jackson to fall here, but Holmes strengthens our weakest position. Thinking the Broncos may look at Croyle in the second round.

As a Broncos fan, I was hoping Philly would let Jackson fall, too. I have serious questions about Holmes (who would just replace Lelie, leaving us little better than we are now--an old guy and a speed guy), while Jackson looks like he could be groomed to replace Rod Smith in a few. I think the "let's go out and get a midget; I mean, look what Steve Smith can do" mindset is a bad bandwagon to get on. Steve Smith is an unusual talent, and Santana Moss is only one year away from being called a bust. Give me that 6'+ 200 lb wideout with speed over the mighty mouse any day.

[Schmidty]

Give me that 6'+ 200 lb wideout with speed over the mighty mouse any day.

Yeah, that strategy has worked out great for the Lions.

[BuffaloHuskey]

With the 18th pick the Buffalo Bills select C Nick Mangold - Ohio State.

Best lineman available and we are weak on the line. Ultimately if I had more time (on vacation so can't check the CPU mich), I would have traded down again to get more picks as all four of the guys I wanted (Bunkley, Justice. Ngata, and Jimmy Williams were taken). I thought for sure one of the DT's would have been there. We need depth so another trade down would have been worth it, especially since Mangold would have been available later.

[DanGarion]

With the 18th pick the Buffalo Bills select C Nick Mangold - Ohio State.


You mean 17th? :)

[TazFTW]

With the (real) 18th pick, the Dallas Cowboys select DE Manny Lawson, North Carolina State.

Lawson played DE at NC State but he projects to be an 3-4 OLB in the NFL. He will be an upgrade over Al Singleton as he will provide speed off the edge and hopefully will keep opposing blocking schemes honest and not key in on Ware's side.

The Cowboys have other needs but the WR class is weak. The safety class is pretty solid and there should be talent available in the 2nd or 3rd round. OLine depth can also be found in the later rounds.

[WSUCougar]

Via PM, the San Diego Chargers (dangarion) select Clemson CB Tye Hill with the 1.19 pick.

The Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock.

[DanGarion]

With the (real) 18th pick, the Dallas Cowboys select DE Manny Lawson, North Carolina State.


damn you! :)

[WSUCougar]

Whoops, you're online after all. :D Is that still the pick you wanted?

[JeeberD]

With the (real) 18th pick, the Dallas Cowboys select DE Manny Lawson, North Carolina State.

Lawson played DE at NC State but he projects to be an 3-4 OLB in the NFL. He will be an upgrade over Al Singleton as he will provide speed off the edge and hopefully will keep opposing blocking schemes honest and not key in on Ware's side.

The Cowboys have other needs but the WR class is weak. The safety class is pretty solid and there should be talent available in the 2nd or 3rd round. OLine depth can also be found in the later rounds.

Shoulda gone with Thomas Howard if you were looking for an OLB... ;)

[Eaglesfan27]

I hope they do move up to get Ngata, especially since they've got an abundance of picks and losing a couple of them really wouldn't hurt at all.

I would have taken Ngata if he was still on the board, but I hope they don't give up much to move up. He did have a serious knee injury a few years ago.

[DanGarion]

Whoops, you're online after all. :D Is that still the pick you wanted?
Yeah I'm good, I just thought Lawson was dropping to the Chargers.
Considering we only have two CB in San Diego I think getting Hill who from what I have read should go higher is a steal.

[kcchief19]

Sorry for the delay ... we've been in trade negotiations and I've been away this evening since the last few picks were made.

The Chiefs have agreed to a deal with the Detroit Lions and are awaiting league approval. The trade:

Chiefs receive:
2006 2nd round pick
2006 3th round pick (from St. Louis)
2007 3nd round pick

Lions receive:
2006 1st round pick

Explanation: My No. 1 need on the board is corner back. The cornerback pool is pretty deep this year, and I'm willing to take a gamble that a top corner back will still be available when we draft No. 11 in the second round with the Lions' pick. This trade also provides Kansas City with an additional third round pick, which is valuable to the team since we don't have a fourth-round pick this year. And frankly, given the Chiefs success in the middle and later rounds in drafting and lack of success in the first round, I have no problem stockpiling picks in those rounds. I think this deal gives us the opportunity to get a top CB in the second round along with a pass rusher in the second round, then give us two picks in the third where we maybe be able to pick up a quarterback.

Based on the draft pick value chart, I think it's very reasonable and even a great deal for Kansas City. If the Lions' 2007 draft position is No. 23, this trade will be a point-value break even. If the Lions' draft position is earlier than No. 23, the Chiefs will gain. I'm willing to bet that the Lions' will be drafting well before No. 23 next year.

[Schmidty]

I'm willing to bet that the Lions' will be drafting well before No. 23 next year.

I disagree with this. The NFC North is going to suck this season, and I feel that the Lions will be around 8-8, #16-20.

[Schmidty]

1.20 - Detroit Lions select - Chad Greenway

I feel good about this pick since I feel that Greenway is only a very slight step down from AJ Hawk in talent, and is actually quite similar. The Lions have had a rash of injury troubles at LB the past two seasons, despite having guys like Boss Bailey and Teddy Lehman at the position. I think this pick will solidify the LB postiion for years to come.

This pick, combined with the Ngata pick, should improve the defense markedly, even this season. I project an OL pick in the 3rd, or perhaps a DB.

[Eaglesfan27]

1.20 - Detroit Lions select - Chad Greenway

I feel good about this pick since I feel that Greenway is only a very slight step down from AJ Hawk in talent, and is actually quite similar. The Lions have had a rash of injury troubles at LB the past two seasons, despite having guys like Boss Bailey and Teddy Lehman at the position. I think this pick will solidify the LB postiion for years to come.

This pick, combined with the Ngata pick, should improve the defense markedly, even this season. I project an OL pick in the 3rd, or perhaps a DB.

Another nice pick. Greenway was the other guy besides Ngata that I think would really help the Eagles' defense.

[Schmidty]

Another nice pick. Greenway was the other guy besides Ngata that I think would really help the Eagles' defense.

Thanks.

I was actually debating whether I should take him at #11.

[Sublime 2]

1.21 New England Patriots select: OLB Ernie Sims, Florida State


I really thought Greenway would fall here but I also thought Sims would go a bit higher than Chad, so I'm pretty happy with picking Sims up. Aside from LB, the Pats certainly need DB help as well, but I think Sims' coverage skills can also help the pass defense.

After Greenway was taken and killed my pick, I had a hard time choosing between three guys. I'm interested to see where the other two go though.

[RedKingGold]

1.22- San Francisco 49er's Select CB Antonio Cromartie, Florida State

Even with his ACL injury and not playing for a whole year, he is climbing on top of some draft charts as the best CB in the draft. He definitely has the most potential.

In either case, Cromartie has the size (6'2'' and change), physicalness and speed to be the next Champ Bailey. He is a perfect fit for the 49er's defense and now two of eleven spots on the 49er's defense are locked up for the next five or six years.

[BC Bob]

Huff fits a need for the team as the future replacement for Ronde Barber. He is not a pure corner, but neither is Barber as anyone who watches the Bucs scheme -- particularly on 3rd downs -- knows. If the Bucs were to extend the contracts of both Barber and Brian Kelly, Huff also could be moved to SS where he likely could displace Jermaine Phillips who is adequate at best.

IMHO, Huff is the DB most ready to play now in the NFL (so he should get a fair amount of playing time this year), and only Antonio Cromartie has more potential among the DBs. (I had decided to pass on Cromartie's potential, if he had remained available, simply because I don't like taking risks with a first round pick when there is an area of need, but he is certainly a great pick if you are willing to accept the risk.)

When the draft began, I did not even have Huff as a possibility as I never thought he would drop this far and instead might even be a Top 10 pick. I was targeting Ernie Sims (excellent pick by New England at #21) and one other player who, as the draft progressed, I decided I would select unless Huff remained available. Given that the draft is ongoing and that player is still on the board, I won't identify who that is except to say its an offensive lineman (no shock there given the Bucs obvious need at several OL positions).

[TazFTW]

Huff was drafted #7.

[duckman]

:D

[BC Bob]

Oops -- how could I have missed that Huff was selected! I should have realized that was too good to be true.

Joseph also fits a need, although a small reach as he might have been available a few picks later. Would replace Mahan almost immediately at one guard position, with Mahan sliding to center to replace Wade.

[JPhillips]

Anybody want to move up for the last OLB left before the Giants grab him? The Bengals pick is for sale. I'll wait a bit before selecting to field offers.

[JPhillips]

Seeing how I got no trade offers..

With the 24th pick the Cincinnati Bengals select:

1-24 Johnathan Joseph CB South Carolina

The Bengals get a corner that is ranked number one on many boards. He's got limited experience, but decent size and great speed. He'll probably be the nickel corner this year and take over for Tory James next year. He'll be given the opportunity to start this year if he can out perform James.

[Fighter of Foo]

Waiting on a trade response from Schmidty. He sent it yesterday (10 picks or so ago) so I don't want to assume anything.

I have a pick ready if needed.

[flere-imsaho]

I disagree with this. The NFC North is going to suck this season, and I feel that the Lions will be around 8-8, #16-20.

I think you underestimate the potential suckage any one NFC North team can accomplish in a season. ;)

[RedKingGold]

Fighter of Foo.....you have a PM

[RedKingGold]

Looking to trade up to the bottom of the 1st round. If interested, please PM me

[WSUCougar]

Waiting on a trade response from Schmidty. He sent it yesterday (10 picks or so ago) so I don't want to assume anything.

I have a pick ready if needed.
In case you missed it, Schmidty's Lions already traded up with the Chiefs.

[Fighter of Foo]

That's why I don't want to assume anything :)

[Schmidty]

Yeah man, I just sent you a PM. I actually think I'm going to remove that offer, since it was made before I traded with Kansas City.

Sorry about that dude.

[Fighter of Foo]

Fine.

Had a trade lined up for Ngata in case anyone was wondering.

LB Bobby Carpenter Ohio State

[Cuckoo]

With the (real) 18th pick, the Dallas Cowboys select DE Manny Lawson, North Carolina State.

Lawson played DE at NC State but he projects to be an 3-4 OLB in the NFL. He will be an upgrade over Al Singleton as he will provide speed off the edge and hopefully will keep opposing blocking schemes honest and not key in on Ware's side.

The Cowboys have other needs but the WR class is weak. The safety class is pretty solid and there should be talent available in the 2nd or 3rd round. OLine depth can also be found in the later rounds.

Late for my commentary on this one, but...

Solid pick, Taz. I think Lawson will be a good player, and the Cowboys will consider him. If I had to guess, though, I suspect they'll trade down. They've done the DE to LB transition with Ware and would probably like more of a pure LB on the other side. I predict they trade down a few spots and take Carpenter.

[WSUCougar]

We have a trade:

Steelers receive:
1(26)
6(186)

Bears receive:
1(32)
3(96)

[cthomer5000]

FYI, Jets would be willing to move our late round pick if we receive a solid offer. With another pick very high in the 2nd round, I would be fine with not landing a guy here.

[Swaggs]

With 26th pick in the first round, the Pittsburgh Steelers select RB LenDale White, USC.

Explanation forthcoming.

[Swaggs]

With ten picks in this draft (thanks to free agent compensation) and very few open roster spots, we were looking at this pick to target a player that can specifically help us now, as well as in the future.

With Carolina, Jacksonville, New York Jets, and Indianapolis coming up, we feared there might be a string of RBs taken. Even though Maroney, Williams, and Addai were also available, we wanted to trade up, ahead of those teams, to get the back that we felt was both the best fit into our offense and the most talented player left on the board.

[WSUCougar]

Good move, Swaggs, although it'll be interesting to see how White pans out. (I mean more interesting than just a typical 1st rounder)

[cthomer5000]

Good move, Swaggs, although it'll be interesting to see how White pans out. (I mean more interesting than just a typical 1st rounder)

In real life I'm praying he makes it to the Jets 2nd round pick. Unlikely, but a man can dream.

[Young Drachma]

With the 27th pick in the first round, the Carolina Panthers select Jason Allen, S, Tennessee

[Coffee Warlord]

And Da Bears like this trade. There's a lot of ways we can still go with our lower pick, and we replace the 3rd rounder we just lost in signing Ricky Manning. Had a spare 6th rounder thanks to the Mike Green trade (also recent).

[Travis]

And Da Bears like this trade. There's a lot of ways we can still go with our lower pick, and we replace the 3rd rounder we just lost in signing Ricky Manning. Had a spare 6th rounder thanks to the Mike Green trade (also recent).

Not going for a threadjack here, but what are your thoughts on Green? I've been looking at that acquisition and wondering if the Seahawks need for a safety at this point are pretty much nil or not. Looks like the plan is to bring him in as a primary backup who may have to step in as a starter depending on Hamlin's progress. Just seems like the Seahawks are stocking a lot of DT's and safeties right now, and while a majority of them seem like long hots to make the team, I'm hoping Green is at least a solid backup that would allow them to use Babineaux as a corner.

[Raven Hawk]

That's just what Mike Green is. He's a great #3 safety. If you're looking to add depth to that position, he's a great add. If you're looking for a starter, not so much.

[Raven Hawk]

Dola,

Good move on the trade, CW. You have this Bears fan's seal of approval.

[Coffee Warlord]

Not going for a threadjack here, but what are your thoughts on Green? I've been looking at that acquisition and wondering if the Seahawks need for a safety at this point are pretty much nil or not. Looks like the plan is to bring him in as a primary backup who may have to step in as a starter depending on Hamlin's progress. Just seems like the Seahawks are stocking a lot of DT's and safeties right now, and while a majority of them seem like long hots to make the team, I'm hoping Green is at least a solid backup that would allow them to use Babineaux as a corner.

What RH said, basically. He won't kill you in a pinch, but he's not a starter.

[soapy]

are we going in to the 2nd with this mock draft?

[Eaglesfan27]

are we going in to the 2nd with this mock draft?

No, it was stated ahead of time that it was just the 1st round we are doing.

[IwasHere]

Sorry, didnt expect things to move so fast -

With selection 15, The Denver Broncos select - Santonio Holmes - WR, Ohio State -

Would have liked Cutler or Chad Jackson to fall here, but Holmes strengthens our weakest position. Thinking the Broncos may look at Croyle in the second round.
Bigger Bust Ashlie Lelie or Darius Watts?

Just seems like everyone has forgotten all about Darius Watts and are blaming Lelie for all the Broncos receiving problems.

[cthomer5000]

bumpo

[stevew]

I think the Jaguars would be Ecstatic to be sitting at #28 with a couple of these players still on the board.

[stevew]

And I like the fact that Swaggs took Lendale White, but I would prefer to not have to trade up for him.

[cthomer5000]

at what point can i jump ahead of them like in the real draft?

[cthomer5000]

argh... frustration level rising.

[ISiddiqui]

At 24 hours, why not just switch the original picker with someone else, who'll make a pick within an hour or so?

[Abe Sargent]

There is a person who fell here who has been falling all week long. This person fell on several other live drafts this week, including the Jaguars.com Live Draft, and if it happens, I think the Jags seriously consider taking him. Jags should take him here too.


-Anxiety

[stevew]

Aren't you a Jags fan? Take control of the draft room!

[Abe Sargent]

Aren't you a Jags fan? Take control of the draft room!


Not only am I a HUGE Jags fan, I'm also one of the 100 First Fans, a list of the first 100 Jags fans to order something from the Jags website, back when it was the first team website in the, so I have an offical title and my own special T-Shirt and everything!


-Anxiety

[ISiddiqui]

An Anxiety coup d'etat? Well that could be fun to watch.

[DanGarion]

Not only am I a HUGE Jags fan, I'm also one of the 100 First Fans, a list of the first 100 Jags fans to order something from the Jags website, back when it was the first team website in the, so I have an offical title and my own special T-Shirt and everything!


-Anxiety

Shit I think we have a board title in the making!

SKYDOG!!!!!!!!!!!

[Samdari]

Sorry guys, between painting rooms for Samette and removing a nasty browser hijacker, I could not make it here until now. Should have just let Anxiety pick.

[Samdari]

With the 28th pick in the FOFC, the Jacksonville Jaguars select:

DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis.

We cannot believe he is here, especially with Pittsburgh trading up to take a RB (which they did not need to do - we would have taken Williams anyway). We would have taken WIlliams with any pick, starting with around 12.

[Abe Sargent]

Would have taken teh same guy :)


-Anxiety

[stevew]

Yeah, I would have taken him also. Great value at that pick.

[Young Drachma]

The reason I didn't take Williams at that pick, was...I wanted someone who could help the team now. With all these guys that teams seem to uncover on the 2nd day, I can't believe that there are no other value players. I didn't see the smarts in paying a kid 1st round money when he might not start for us for at least 2-3 years.

[Samdari]

The reason I didn't take Williams at that pick, was...I wanted someone who could help the team now. With all these guys that teams seem to uncover on the 2nd day, I can't believe that there are no other value players. I didn't see the smarts in paying a kid 1st round money when he might not start for us for at least 2-3 years.

The Panthers need a running back NOW. If they draft Williams, White or Maroney, any of the three would lead the team in rushing next year. Counting on Foster for a whole season cannot seem like sound judgement at this point.

[cthomer5000]

FYI, I've got a trade worked out to move out of this spot, unless the other party has backed out. Hopefully we can wrap this selection up before i go to bed tonight.

[cthomer5000]

We have a trade.....

Jets Send
1.29

49ers Send
3.22
4.4
2007 2nd (SF)
2007 4th (SF)

This is gratification delayed, but I'm certain this ends up being an easy win for the Jets. That 49ers second round pick will end up being very high again. I think Jets have a ton of needs, so I was all about acquiring some more picks.

[cthomer5000]

Just doing the trade chart math on this, the 49ers would have to draft at #26 or lower next year for this to be a loss for me. Not happening. More likely we're looking at 2nd and 4th round picks in the top 10 of each round.

[Coffee Warlord]

Don't like it for the 49ers. They've got too many holes to be getting rid of picks.

[Travis]

I've got to leave in 10 minutes for my draft day / Oilers game party and I'm just wondering how I should handle this for my pick (1.31). Would people prefer if I just post a short list, pm it to somebody who is around right now (any volunteers?) or any other suggestions?

[cthomer5000]

I've got to leave in 10 minutes for my draft day / Oilers game party and I'm just wondering how I should handle this for my pick (1.31). Would people prefer if I just post a short list, pm it to somebody who is around right now (any volunteers?) or any other suggestions?

you can PM me your choices if you'd like. I'll be here all day watching/talking about the draft.

[WSUCougar]

Feel free to PM me or Corey (cthomer5000), Travis.

[cthomer5000]

Feel free to PM me or Corey (cthomer5000), Travis.

I've got the info and as I said, will be around all day.