NFL Draft 2006

[st.cronin]

Maroney???? would have preferred Williams

[Sublime 2]

Hmmm Maroney over DeAngelo?? Hope Pioli and BB got it right!

[Joe]

Maroney is awesome. maybe I'm a NE fan now. the vikings suck balls anyway.

[TazFTW]

Did Carpenter fail Home Ec. too?

He couldn't meet the pre-reqs. :(

[Logan]

Great 1st round for the Niners. :)

[molson]

Hmmm Maroney over DeAngelo?? Hope Pioli and BB got it right!

Surprising - maybe it's an "upside" kind of a pick, since Dillon probably has a year or two left if he stays healthy. But, I figure Pioli and Bill have watched approximately 10,000 X as footage of them as I have, so I'll trust them.

[Vince]

I am absolutely LOVING the Niners draft so far.

[AlexB]

WHAT?! WTF? WTF?

Right on Saban.. I knew just by looking at Allen, that he is Sabans type of player.. Great pick..

Ok - slightly different reactions ! As someone who has never heard of the bloke, is he any good? The NFL paper over here had at least three CBs ahead of him - what gives?

[cthomer5000]

Hmmm Maroney over DeAngelo?? Hope Pioli and BB got it right!

Different kind of guys I think. There's a pretty even split of opinion over who the #2 back in the draft is.

[DaddyTorgo]

got home just in time for NE's pick. Maroney hmm? Maroney? Oh well...welcome to NE dude.

[EagleFan]

If they get him, I'll be much happier with their 1st round pick.


I'll have to semi-disagree with my namesake. I loved that first round pick and was actually intently waiting on their pick for the first time ever in a draft just hoping to see the teams ahead of them not take him (or to hear a trade announced that made sure the Eagles got him).

I think he will help that defense out big time.

I don't want to see another high 1st round receiver, Freddie was enough for one lifetime.... :D

[Terps]

Davin Joseph?

[33sherman]

Santonio Holmes is in free-fall right now. I had him going top ten, I think.

[Terps]

I think Cincy takes DeMeco Ryans.

[Sublime 2]

I would think Jackson is falling worse than Holmes though.

[kingfc22]

Jimmy Williams in a free fall as well.

[Cuckoo]

Davin Joseph?

Obviously as an OU fan, I think it's a good pick. Joseph is a hard worker with quite a bit of talent, and it looks as if Tampa didn't want to worry about the character issues of Justice.

[Terps]

G-Men on the clock... Does EA take Jimmy Williams, Jackson/Holmes, or Justice despite his off-field problems?

[kingfc22]

These poor WR's have nobody that wants them. They should call up DET to see when they pick next.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'll have to semi-disagree with my namesake. I loved that first round pick and was actually intently waiting on their pick for the first time ever in a draft just hoping to see the teams ahead of them not take him (or to hear a trade announced that made sure the Eagles got him).

I think he will help that defense out big time.

I don't want to see another high 1st round receiver, Freddie was enough for one lifetime.... :D

Freddie was 25th I believe, but I understand the viewpoint. I just think Chad is going to be a very good or even great receiver. We need more than Stinkston and the rest of the #3 receivers we have to compliment Reggie.

[Dutch]

Obviously as an OU fan, I think it's a good pick. Joseph is a hard worker with quite a bit of talent, and it looks as if Tampa didn't want to worry about the character issues of Justice.

It's a good thing Tampa doesn't pass the ball. Seriously, I hope Tampa did their homework on this guy. I am glad they got OL help despite having all 5 starters return. If nothing else, he should be a big help to Cadilac Williams.

[stevew]

Woot!

[Terps]

Traded w/ Pittsburgh.

[stevew]

Man, this is awesome.

[Terps]

Giants get a 3rd and 4th from Pitt.

[wbatl1]

that flashback was pretty funny

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Uh, oh... Let's see what third round talent Buffalo traded up to get!

[wbatl1]

HAHA...this is twice this draft that Buffalo has drafted a player was too high

[AlexB]

HAHA...this is twice this draft that Buffalo has drafted a player was too high

Couldn't happen to a better team ;)

[Greyroofoo]

Bah, I was hoping Williams fell to the Colts

[Deattribution]

Great pick by Carolina.

[Sublime 2]

I like Leftwich quite a bit but don't know much about Jax, they got any receivers? I'd like to see Jackson go there.


edit: n/m about the WR's....

[Coffee Warlord]

And the Bears botch yet another draft.

Some great WR's on the board at their pick, traded down. Now they just lost out on the best choice of remaining TE's.

Sigh.

[cthomer5000]

Very happy with the Jets again. Keep on going O-line, baby. Keep it up.

[wbatl1]

good replacement for james I think...good reciever as well, although there was some hope he would fall to Atlanta at 47...obviously that was wrong

[Terps]

I think they should have taken LenDale White.

[cthomer5000]

I think they should have taken LenDale White.

Not really the right fit for Indy.

[GrantDawg]

And the Bears botch yet another draft.

Some great WR's on the board at their pick, traded down. Now they just lost out on the best choice of remaining TE's.

Sigh.

Pope is still on the board, and will be a better TE than Lewis.

[Greyroofoo]

Colts tend to avoid people with perceived "attitude" problems

[wbatl1]

I think they should have taken LenDale White.

I think Addai is much better all around, and thats what they want. White is obviously a much better runner but his work ethic and all-aroundness are questioned. I think Addai is a little "safer"

[Greyroofoo]

Lendale White is ugly

[Cuckoo]

It's a good thing Tampa doesn't pass the ball. Seriously, I hope Tampa did their homework on this guy. I am glad they got OL help despite having all 5 starters return. If nothing else, he should be a big help to Cadilac Williams.

Joseph's a better pass blocker than given credit for, I think. OU had problems in pass protection, but Joseph wasn't one of the bigger culprits. And he was playing left tackle for much of the season. As a guard, I think he'll be better than adequate in pass protection.

[Deattribution]

White is the most 'rounded' RB in the draft, infact, he's so round he could have ate Reggie Bush for dinner.

[Terps]

Giants made a good trade with Pittsburgh if they can still grab Chad Jackson at #32.

[wbatl1]

Joseph's a better pass blocker than given credit for, I think. OU had problems in pass protection, but Joseph wasn't one of the bigger culprits. And he was playing left tackle for much of the season. As a guard, I think he'll be better than adequate in pass protection.

Unless they want him as a possible tackle.

[cthomer5000]

Lendale White is ugly

I agree... this might have kept the Colts away.

[Swaggs]

It will be interesting if the Jets can get Justice with their early 2nd rounder. They will have virtually rebuilt their entire line.

[Dutch]

Joseph's a better pass blocker than given credit for, I think. OU had problems in pass protection, but Joseph wasn't one of the bigger culprits. And he was playing left tackle for much of the season. As a guard, I think he'll be better than adequate in pass protection.

I'm glad to hear that from somebody who's seen him play. Thanks for the info.

[Terps]

It will be interesting if the Jets can get Justice with their early 2nd rounder. They will have virtually rebuilt their entire line.

Maybe the Texans would take him?

[cthomer5000]

It will be interesting if the Jets can get Justice with their early 2nd rounder. They will have virtually rebuilt their entire line.

I would snap him up in a minute if he was there.

[Terps]

Kiwanuka! What?

[Logan]

Kiwanuka! What?

Reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaach.

[Terps]

Especially when they have Osi and Strahan.

[cthomer5000]

Reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaach.

Not by much, really.

[wbatl1]

ESPN isn't handling these picks very well...they were delaying the first round and now they can't seem to decide whether they want to show the picks live or not

[henry296]

And then Houston passed on Justice when they had one of the worst OL in football to take another defensive player.

[RedKingGold]

The Saints will take Justice...mark it down

[Dr. Sak]

I think they should have taken LenDale White.

http://www.dailynews.com/usc/ci_3765848

[wbatl1]

And then Houston passed on Justice when they had one of the worst OL in football to take another defensive player.

You gotta love this if your David Carr:rolleyes:

[RedKingGold]

The Saints will take Justice...mark it down

Unless they trade...then they won't

[AlexB]

You gotta love this if your David Carr:rolleyes:

Hey, if they started giving him protection, it would be like starting over with him - he's learning by trying to avoid the rush. If there was no rush, he'd be a rookie again. They've got too much invested in him for Carr to be akin to a rookie again... ;)

[wbatl1]

What were the deals of the trade?

[General Mike]

Kiwanuka was the worst possible pick there.

[Logan]

Not by much, really.

DE is one of the only areas they don't need help. He doesn't project to be an OLB. What was the point?

[RedKingGold]

What were the deals of the trade?

They haven't announced it yet...

[RedKingGold]

Have I mentioned that I love the 49er's draft so far...

Like I said, I have faith in Nolan and the new guys with the 9'ers

[cthomer5000]

DE is one of the only areas they don't need help. He doesn't project to be an OLB. What was the point?

Then call it a bad pick. Reach would be taking a guy who was expected to go much lower.

[Logan]

Then call it a bad pick. Reach would be taking a guy who was expected to go much lower.

Sorry.

It was a bad pick, and a reach. Happy?

EDIT: Plus they traded down 7 slots to get him, while adding the last picks in the 3rd and 4th rounds. I think it's safe to say they were considering him at 25. That's a major reach.

[Swaggs]

Good pick for the Browns. I've seen Jackson play quite a bit and I think he'll be a good NFL player.

[wbatl1]

Have I mentioned that I love the 49er's draft so far...

Like I said, I have faith in Nolan and the new guys with the 9'ers

Yeah, they are having a really good draft, and got a little help with players falling maybe one or two spots more than some projected.

[wbatl1]

Another trade and the Jets don't take Justice? A little surprising but I'll wait for the terms.

[henry296]

Jets trade was swap 2nds, 6th round plus 2nd rounder next year.

[Cuckoo]

I'm glad to hear that from somebody who's seen him play. Thanks for the info.

You bet. I actually wasn't surprised by the pick as there has been speculation the Bucs have liked him since just after last year's draft. Originally, they liked him for his versatility as a guard or tackle. But personally, I don't think he's a tackle. He's quick enough and has long arms, but his body is a bit thicker and shorter than you'd generally want at tackle probably.

I think he ideally fits as a guard. He's pretty powerful and should do well pulling out on running plays. Against teams with quicker defensive tackles, he may need help early on with pass blocking as he seems to struggle when he's on an island at times. But that's not generally near the problem at guard as it can be at tackle. His upside is good, though, and with how hard he works, he may be able to improve that part of his game significantly in the next couple of years.

That's probably more than you wanted to know, but hey... :)

[Terps]

Packers might make out here with Jimmy Williams, Winston Justice, LenDale White, and Chad Jackson still left.

[Eaglesfan27]

Redskins gave up too much to move up 18 spots I think.

[RedKingGold]

I can't believe Justice has fallen this far...

Wasn't he projected to be a top 10 pick at one point?

[Deattribution]

Redskins gave up too much to move up 18 spots I think.

What's new?

[wbatl1]

Redskins gave up too much to move up 18 spots I think.

I'd have to agree. A starter in the league is worth way more than 18 spots.

[Deattribution]

I can't believe Justice has fallen this far...

Wasn't he projected to be a top 10 pick at one point?

Yeah he was projected to goto Arizona at 10, he's probably loading his cap gun for a fake drive-by of Lienart's house as we speak.

[RedKingGold]

Jackson is now a Patriot.

Everyone thought there would be a lot of trades in the top 10 of this draft. They just guessed the wrong round.

[Terps]

Edit - Too slow.

[Sublime 2]

I was hoping the Pats would take him at 21...so I'm certainly happy w/ trading up to grab him!

[DaddyTorgo]

wow. that's a nice snag by the Pats.

[Deattribution]

I wonder why the Packers moved down...

[wbatl1]

What did they give up to move up? Anyone know?

[sabotai]

Especially when they have Osi and Strahan.

Strahan is going into his 13th season. How many years do you think he has left?

Not saying I love the pick, but it's not bad. It's wise of them to think a few years ahead and take a solid DE to groom for when Strahan retires a few years from now.

[gottimd]

Redskins gave up too much to move up 18 spots I think.

Yeah, that seems like a lot. Using that Draft Value chart, does it equate at all or did they just "stick it to themselves" on that trade?

[Terps]

They have Justin Tuck.

[DaddyTorgo]

pats give up #52+#75 for #36

[mckerney]

What did they give up to move up? Anyone know?

52 and 75

[DaddyTorgo]

52 and 75

too slow. gotta work out those fingers man

[Terps]

Javon Walker to Denver for the 37th overall.

[Doug5984]

Saints got Jeff Faine in the trade with the Browns- I love this trade for the Saints. We got a starting Center to slide down 7 spots? Still a chance to get Winston Justice- Could really solidify the O-line.

[Doug5984]

Javon Walker to Denver for the 37th overall.


good deal for both teams.

[RedKingGold]

Javon Walker to Denver for the 37th overall.

Now the Packers moving down makes sense....but who did they take.

ESPN Coverage sucks....is NFL Network's any better???

[Terps]

That's what I'm watching. ESPN is annoying.

[RedKingGold]

And then that pick is dealt to the FALCONS!

What are team's doing??

[SunDevil]

Falcon's now have the 37th

[Terps]

And Jimmy Williams is the pick.

[VPI97]

Woot!

Another VT player for the Atlanta Hokies!!

[SunDevil]

Man, the ESPN coverage is horrible this year. Much worse than last year.

[Crapshoot]

Jimmy Williams is a nice pickup - this guy was considered a top 10 talent earlier. Green Bay is going to pick up a lineman or two in this round - don't they have 2 2nd round picks ?

[Terps]

Woot!

Another VT player for the Atlanta Hokies!!

They may as well take Marcus Vick too.

[cthomer5000]

Woot!

Another VT player for the Atlanta Hokies!!

I didn't think you'd be disappointed.

[DeToxRox]

I wonder if the Lions, who want character players, will take Justice now?

They should, we have a glaring whole at RT, and if the Titans dont take him we'd have to.

[VPI97]

I didn't think you'd be disappointed.
Now I'm hoping Darryl Tapp falls to the third round so Atlanta can get him. :)

[miami_fan]

Ok - slightly different reactions ! As someone who has never heard of the bloke, is he any good? The NFL paper over here had at least three CBs ahead of him - what gives?

My number one concern is his injury history. He had a significant injury last year, a dislocated hip I believe. I get worried when you pick a guy in the 1st round especially a DB that has that sort of injury.

[Eaglesfan27]

Woo hoo! Eagles get Winston Justice. I love this pick :)

[Terps]

Eagles get Winston Justice.

[MikeVic]

Well, Steelers got what they needed in the 1st round I think. A return man and a #2 WR. Although I read on nfl.com that their selection is fumble-prone and doesn't make the best decisions on returns... so...... I don't know. :)

[gstelmack]

Go Pats! Tom Brady has to be a happy camper right now...

[DeToxRox]

Youboty to the Lions seems plausable now if we don't deal out of it.

[DeToxRox]

Lions take Bullocks. Solid. We needed some safety help

[SunDevil]

WTF was Merrill Hoge wearing? Ugh, I really need to order the NFL network.

[GrantDawg]

Wow. The Falcons at one time was considering Williams in the first round. That is a great move.

[VPI97]

Wow. The Falcons at one time was considering Williams in the first round. That is a great move.
I agree. I wasn't the biggest fan of Jimmy while he was at VT (I thought he gambled far too much),but I had similar feelings about D-Lo when he came out. If Atlanta can do for JW what they did for Hall, we should be good to go in the secondary for a long time.

[RedKingGold]

If the Eagles can land Maurice Stovall...this draft could not have gotten better for them

Does LenDale White fall to the 3rd round?

[RedKingGold]

Dola, does anyone find the 2nd and 3rd rounds to be the most entertaining of the draft?

They move quicker than the first, and there is a lot more excitement

[Joe]

Does LenDale White fall to the 3rd round?

I don't think so. The Vikings will take White so he can do drugs with Onterrio Smith and learn the ways of the original whizzinator.

[Coffee Warlord]

What. The. Fuck.

[RedKingGold]

Poor Bears fans......

[LloydLungs]

Dola, does anyone find the 2nd and 3rd rounds to be the most entertaining of the draft?

They move quicker than the first, and there is a lot more excitement

The 2nd and 3rd rounds would be much more enjoyable if ESPN's coverage paid an ounce of attention to them. They're usually off on unrelated features while the picks roll by uncommented on.

[Terps]

G-Men trading up to get Sinorice Moss?

Edit - Yes they did. Not bad.

[henry296]

What was the Giants-Ravens trade.

[Logan]

G-Men trading up to get Sinorice Moss?

Edit - Yes they did. Not bad.

Good move. He should mix in well with all the size the Giants have to throw to.

[Terps]

What was the Giants-Ravens trade.

Ravens got the Giants 3rd rounder.

[Terps]

LenDale to Tenn.

[miami_fan]

Unusual fact: At this point, Abilene Christian has had more players picked than the entire Big East conference combined!

[Coffee Warlord]

Who the FUCK picks a sleeper Div-II player that early.

[Terps]

I think he ran a 4.55 at the combine, and was projected to go mid 4th.

[Coffee Warlord]

Don't mind me. Heading up to Soldier Field to burn it down. Back later.

[Darkiller]

Couldn't be happier about the Niners' first round.
Drafting TE Vernon Davis at #6 and OLB Manny Lawson at #22.

Fantastick picks.

[miami_fan]

Who the FUCK picks a sleeper Div-II player that early.

Isn't this Angelo's MO? I remember him picking someone from Tuskegee a couple of years ago. Am I wrong?

[henry296]

Ravens got the Giants 3rd rounder.

Thanks. Was it the 3rd Rounder from the Steelers or the Giants Original?

[Logan]

Who the FUCK picks a sleeper Div-II player that early.

So extremely typical. Manning was EVERY "expert's" sleeper. So what happens? Early 2nd round. :)

[Raiders Army]

Thomas Howard to the Raiders! Become a part of the Raider Nation, Jeebs!

The NFL Network rocks. I watched the draft through the 7th pick on the NFL Network. ESPN sux.

[digamma]

Don't mind me. Heading up to Soldier Field to burn it down. Back later.

Aren't you supposed to be partying?

[Coffee Warlord]

Isn't this Angelo's MO? I remember him picking someone from Tuskegee a couple of years ago. Am I wrong?

Roosevelt something or other. 2nd round pick, cut after a couple seasons & out of the league.

[Coffee Warlord]

Aren't you supposed to be partying?

Had to cancel it due to some bullshit RL stuff that occupied most of my day.

[miami_fan]

I want to take the opportunity to thank all the NFL teams for feeding us all the BS since January about these players. It is that BS that make the draft so exciting.

[Terps]

Thanks. Was it the 3rd Rounder from the Steelers or the Giants Original?

Actually it was both. The 56th and 87th.

[Young Drachma]

Got robbed?

[Young Drachma]

I think Boomer is going senile.

[DeToxRox]

RE: Got Robbed

Chauncey Billups was on his shirt. It was about the NBA MVP vote I assume.

LenDale is Chaunceys cousin.

[Pyser]

Actually it was both. The 56th and 87th.

that would be their 2nd and 3rd. original 3rd. still have pitts

[miami_fan]

I have stopped watching ESPN. My wife is watching the TV that has the NFL Network so I am listening to ESPN Radio's coverage. They are absolutely RIPPING Buffalo's draft so far.

[Terps]

that would be their 2nd and 3rd. original 3rd. still have pitts

Yeah, I got confused... I was thinking it was the 3rd round already.

[miami_fan]

I hate to admit it, but the Jets are having a very good draft

[Logan]

Good work by the Jets.

[Joe]

nice pick by minnesota

WHO THE FUCK IS THAT GUY

[Joe]

oh I see, scouts inc. had him as a 5th round rounder. and then there's this little nugget: "He is not as quick-footed as he needs to be to compete for a starting spot. His lack of athletic ability makes him overrated. He’s a late pick only."

Awesome pick Vikings, just awesome.

[st.cronin]

Yeah, Ryan Cook is not an NFL prospect imo. Gabe Fulbright and Hank Baskett are the Lobos teams should be looking at.

[Logan]

oh I see, scouts inc. had him as a 5th round rounder. and then there's this little nugget: "He is not as quick-footed as he needs to be to compete for a starting spot. His lack of athletic ability makes him overrated. He’s a late pick only."

Awesome pick Vikings, just awesome.

If it makes you feel better, nfldraftscout.com (through USA Today) had him as a 6th rounder.


I guess that wouldn't make you feel better.

[-Mojo Jojo-]

The NFL.com scouting report is awfully hot on Greg Jennings.. Maybe Ted Thompson isn't a complete idiot...

[Joe]

If it makes you feel better, nfldraftscout.com (through USA Today) had him as a 6th rounder.


I guess that wouldn't make you feel better.


Yeah... it doesnt.

[Julio Riddols]

PLEASE PICK POPE!!!!!

[Eaglesfan27]

After reading more and more about Bunkley and watching his reaction to becoming an Eagle, I'm actually happy about that pick now. I still think we need to take a WR soon, but Bunkley should be an asset to the club.

[Vince]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who's surprised that Pope is still out there. What about Youboty and Marshall? I would love to see the Niners land either of them, but why are they still out there? Same with Ko Simpson and Darnell Bing?

[Julio Riddols]

What the fuck happened to getting a tight end, Cinci?

I bet their next pick is Whitehurst.. damn.

[Julio Riddols]

Cinci is definitely not re-signing Willie Anderson.. Theres your big FA tackle next season.

[bulletsponge]

so my Vikes take a center they could have gotten in the 5th or 6th round, meanwhile a QB they might groom into a starter they pass on twice. now i know why i look back on minnechokeas drafts i dont see any of them still playing

[larrymcg421]

Has there been any explanation from the Vikings as to why they made this pick?

[RedKingGold]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who's surprised that Pope is still out there. What about Youboty and Marshall? I would love to see the Niners land either of them, but why are they still out there? Same with Ko Simpson and Darnell Bing?

I think I would shit my pants in excitement if Bing should fall to the 49ers

[sterlingice]

PLEASE PICK POPE!!!!!

The late John Paul II or Benedict XVI?

SI

[Julio Riddols]

The late John Paul II or Benedict XVI?

SI


Definitely Benedict XVI, man.. John Paul is a bit injury prone, and they say he has a problem giving consistent effort..

[miami_fan]

I think I would shit my pants in excitement if Bing should fall to the 49ers

Ummm I get your point but.....EWWWWWWW!

[Dutch]

Yes! Jeremy Trueblood!

(never heard of him)

I hope he's good, I really like the fact that the Bucs are adressing their offensive line. Guard and Tackle. Looks promising. But how much do we really know about lineman to know if they are any good or not without watching them play a lot?

[miami_fan]

What a fall for Eric Winston. At the beginning of his junioir year there was talk of him coming out early and being the #1 tackle in the draft. 2 years later, he may not be in the 2nd round.

[DaddyTorgo]

Yes! Jeremy Trueblood!

(never heard of him)

I hope he's good, I really like the fact that the Bucs are adressing their offensive line. Guard and Tackle. Looks promising. But how much do we really know about lineman to know if they are any good or not without watching them play a lot?

Trueblood is a BC product. And if there's one type of football player BC has excelled at producing it's O-Linemen. And (just off the top of my head, no stats to back it up or anything) Trueblood was much better thought of by the Boston / BC covering media than either Dan Koppen or Damien Woody or any other BC player while they were at BC. The guy should be the real deal and a quite solid pro. He's HUGE.

[stevew]

Looks like the steelers got 2 3rds for their second? That's pretty good value.

[RedKingGold]

And the Texans finally get their offensive lineman from the ACC.

Not Ferguson, not justice, but Winston

[Surtt]

Is it Sunday?
It appears the Vikings think it is day 2 of the draft.

[stevew]

If the Steelers can get either Ko Simpson or Darnell Bing in the 3rd, along with Holmes, I'll be a very very happy man.

[miami_fan]

Is Marv Levy going to hire the Ohio State DB coach also?

[-Mojo Jojo-]

C Jason Spitz

http://images.nfl.com/images/draft/2006/mugs/spitz_jason.jpg


Great.. so we just drafted someone who apparently rides the short bus..

[Blade6119]

Does St. Louis know this is an NFL draft? I swear they are actively trying to pick players who will suck...damn

[miami_fan]

The Cards are looking pretty good so far Leinart, Lutui, and now Leonard Pope. Add those guys to those receivers, and Edge. Not too bad

[IwasHere]

This is just bad TV on ESPN2 right now.

They are not talking at all about what is going on in front of them. You would think they could at least stay with the draft and talk about the players and trades going on. It would make for better TV as a lot of the people watching do not know these players being selected in the third round.

Is NFL network doing any better?

[miami_fan]

There is the WR for the Dolphins. Hagan looked good when I saw Andrew Walter was throwing to him.

[stevew]

Espn coverage became useless in the early 2nd when they spent more time talking then they did actually showing the picks, etc. NFL network coverage wasn't much better. The first round is history, I want to know about the guys going here in the 3rd.

[cthomer5000]

Espn coverage became useless in the early 2nd when they spent more time talking then they did actually showing the picks, etc. NFL network coverage wasn't much better. The first round is history, I want to know about the guys going here in the 3rd.

It really is frustrating. This is when I actually need the coverage most.

[IwasHere]

Do they know that there is a draft going on?

I had to do some serious internet searching trying to find out why the Steelers 2nd round pick just vanished. The anouncers had no idea the Steelers traded. And, this was only the 2nd round!!!

This is just bad TV. Why can't they just anounce the draft?

[Suburban Rhythm]

If the Steelers can get either Ko Simpson or Darnell Bing in the 3rd, along with Holmes, I'll be a very very happy man.

Was pulling for Simpson too...but looks like that is out the window with Smith being selected at #83. But, at least they addresses the top 2 needs, WR and S.

They got great value moving #64 for two 3rd rounders.

Curious where they go with #95...OLB type like McClover? Don't see them taking the QB/WR/PR/??? guy in the 3rd now after getting Holmes.

[stevew]

I think they will take a DE conversion prospect like Haralson.

[stevew]

I can't believe some of the guys still on the board, I thought some of these guys were locks for the top 50.

[st.cronin]

I can't believe some of the guys still on the board, I thought some of these guys were locks for the top 50.

such as?

[stevew]

such as?

Well, mainly some defensive backs that the Steelers had targeted. Also some WR, like Demetrius Williams, who some projected to be an early 2nd rounder.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Anyone else think Frostee Rucker has a great deal in his future with Wendy's??

[Suburban Rhythm]

Guess I was wrong about not taking a PR/KR guy...

I guess the Steelers aren't as high on Nate Washington and/or Walter Young as they've led us to believe?

[stevew]

Looks like the Steelers just drafted another WR.....Lee Mays might be hitting you up for a job at Olive Garden, Jeeber.

[Bearcat729]

Anyone else think Frostee Rucker has a great deal in his future with Wendy's??

He's coming to Ohio so there is a very good chance of it happening

[stevew]

Guess I was wrong about not taking a PR/KR guy...

I guess the Steelers aren't as high on Nate Washington and/or Walter Young as they've led us to believe?

I think this WR will push Morgan and Washington for a spot, perhaps also push Morey for one as well on ST. I'm a bit perplexed, as I would have thought they would have taken another defensive player, and then tried to get a return type or slash guy, maybe a Jeremy Bloom/Reggie McNeal in the 4th

[cthomer5000]

I have to say, I'm impressed with Corey Chavous on NFL Network... I mean, damn was he just rattling through players like a beast just now in their Day 1 wrap-up.

[bulletsponge]

I have to say, I'm impressed with Corey Chavous on NFL Network... I mean, damn was he just rattling through players like a beast just now in their Day 1 wrap-up.


Did he rip the Vikings for some of thier 2nd round selections?

[JeeberD]

Thomas Howard to the Raiders! Become a part of the Raider Nation, Jeebs!


Sorry, man, but it's never gonna happen. ;)


So why exactly did the Cowboys pick a TE in the second when we have Witten? I know we lost Dan Campbell, but damn I think we have more pressing needs than #2 TE...

[stevew]

I have to say, I'm impressed with Corey Chavous on NFL Network... I mean, damn was he just rattling through players like a beast just now in their Day 1 wrap-up.

Yep, that dude is top notch.

[cthomer5000]

Yep, that dude is top notch.

He sounded every bit as natural as Mel Kiper while discussing a few prospects in incredibly depth. He's definitely got a skill for this.

[miami_fan]

Chavous has been a draft guru for years. This is a guy who breaks down college football game for the fun of it. It is really a passion for him.

[GrantDawg]

I remember watching him in college. He was another Vandy player that stood out on some bad teams.

[GrantDawg]

dola: He used to be a regular on the sports radio in Nashville even after he was drafted. He's got a real future in broadcasting.

[Bearcat729]

Any of the Sooner fans out there care to tell me about Travis Wilson? I'm not sure why the Browns went reciever in the third round, but is the kid any good?

[Cuckoo]

Any of the Sooner fans out there care to tell me about Travis Wilson? I'm not sure why the Browns went reciever in the third round, but is the kid any good?

Yeah, he's solid - probably good value for a 3rd rounder. He has nice size and good hands. It looked as if he'd be a big playmaker for Oklahoma when he was opposite Mark Clayton, but injuries and inconsistency marked this past year for him.

Personally I don't think he'll ever be a guy that'll be a star or anything, but he should be a solid NFL WR. He's strong, so he won't be pushed around, and he doesn't drop a lot. Cleveland should be happy with him in the long run.

[Eaglesfan27]

I have to say, I'm impressed with Corey Chavous on NFL Network... I mean, damn was he just rattling through players like a beast just now in their Day 1 wrap-up.

Yeah, he was very impressive and none of their guys annoyed me. I watched ESPN's coverage for the first hour. Then, I remembered I had NFL Network and they were covering the draft. I never missed ESPN.

[Cuckoo]

So why exactly did the Cowboys pick a TE in the second when we have Witten? I know we lost Dan Campbell, but damn I think we have more pressing needs than #2 TE...

My question exactly. Plus, they signed a guy (Hannam) who was supposed to be the blocker to replace Campbell.

The word on Fasano is he's a good, balanced TE. Maybe Parcells was looking for more of a double threat catching the ball in the two tight sets.

I also think Witten's a free agent after this year, so maybe this is protection in case he wants more money than Jones is willing to pay. Personally, I think not tying Witten up long term would be a mistake.

[Ksyrup]

Anyone else think Frostee Rucker has a great deal in his future with Wendy's??

I told my wife she should meet his brother, Tastee Freeze. Made her laugh and bought me another 10 minutes of coverage before she came to her senses and made me turn something else on.

[ISiddiqui]

While I think the Texans messed up in the 1st round. I REALLY like their 3rd round. OT Charles Spenser and OT Eric Winston in back to back picks early in the 3rd.

While I like the Williams pick by Atlanta, I hoped they would have taken Justice. *sigh* The Falcons better get an OT in free agency.

[stevew]

I told my wife she should meet his brother, Tastee Freeze. Made her laugh and bought me another 10 minutes of coverage before she came to her senses and made me turn something else on.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who got fussed at for watching too much draft today.

[Swaggs]

I'm not real crazy about the Steelers' draft. I am overall happy that we added Santonio Holmes, but I think we gave up quite a bit to get him, considering that Jackson and Moss slid into the 2nd round. Overall, I'm glad that he'll be a Steeler, though.

The two picks in the third round are puzzling to me. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them gets cut and does not make the team.

I guess I anticipated a better overall group of first day players, but we added someone much more high end than I anticipated, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Abe Sargent]

The only ESPN thing I liked all day was William Henderson and his realtive frankness and intelligence. I only wish I had NFL Network.


-Anxiety

[TazFTW]

Still don't like the Carpenter pick.

Carpenter was a very frustrating linebacker to evaluate, because he no doubt has the size, strength, playing speed and athleticism to be a productive all-around linebacker, but he is not one now, and he is unlikely to ever become one. While he tests out like a warrior, his lack of instincts hinder his ability to play up to his off-field workouts -- he is often a beat late moving at the snap and lacks the explosiveness to catch up once he loses a step. When he is aggressive with his hands, he does a good job jolting blockers, gets arm extension and can shed and get free to make plays against runs directed at him -- he has shown the ability to do a good job of maintaining force responsibility. Overall, Carpenter is going to test out big time and will be drafted higher than rated because of it, but he will struggle to become the big-play impact linebacker that is expected of such high draft picks. He will develop into a good starting linebacker, who like many current NFL starters, makes a lot of tackles chasing down plays in pursuit, but does not make big plays to impact games. Carpenter broke an ankle against Michigan, so the ankle will need to pass tests before he is completely cleared.

Fasano is okay. Would have rather addressed a need (OL, WR, S) than a Witten clone (receiving TE who needs to improve on blocking). OTs Marcus McNeil and Eric Winston were available.

Not sure about Hatcher but at least the Cowboys got a 4th rounder for trading down.

Hatcher is a player that nothing was known about when grading started on Grambling, but based on his measureables, he warranted a close look and it only took him a few plays before he made a very big hit on the quarterback to grab attention. He is somewhat of a "tweener" in that he is 6-foot-6 and 280-plus pounds, which is excellent for a strong-side defensive end, but he lacks the explosiveness and burst to threaten the corner as a speed/edge rusher, which is why about half the teams are looking at him as a defensive end and half as a defensive tackle. His tendency to play upright and without leverage so often is what hinders his play at defensive tackle. Overall, Hatcher has the ability to become a good starting strong-side defensive end for a team that plays a 4-3 defense or a defensive end for a team that plays the 3-4 defense. He is a raw, developmental prospect that will need a season to improve his play with leverage and become more consistently aggressive with his hands vs. blocks in order to play up to his natural strength, but he should develop into this player if he goes to a team that is patient with him and gives him time to develop. He will most likely need to go to NFL Europe in 2007 to gain playing experience to become the good starting defensive lineman he will eventually be.

At 6'6" 280+, maybe he is Ferguson's backup?

[Sublime 2]

The only ESPN thing I liked all day was William Henderson and his realtive frankness and intelligence. I only wish I had NFL Network.


-Anxiety

I completely agree...

[Craptacular]

I only wish I had NFL Network.
-Anxiety

LOL ... I totally forgot I even have it now. If you figured there was actually a useful day to watch it up 'til now, today would have been the day.

[miami_fan]

From this link http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_DRAFT_TITANS_WHITE?SITE=TNMEM&SECTION=SPORTS

Coach Jeff Fisher said there were published reports about a positive drug test at the NFL Combine.

"That is not correct," he said. "We got the results from all the testing at the combine. The reports were false. We just feel considering the ability that he has and the production he has and the running style that he brings to this franchise, this was a player we could not pass up."

I don't see why Fisher would lie about the tests. It is not like he is the first coach to take a chance with the kid who had a positive drug test especially in the third round.

[RendeR]

Ok, someone with a clue want to help me understand the BENGALS DRAFT PICKS???

W.....T......F????

We needed a big play/target tight end...nope.
We needed another BIG body NT type.....Nope.
We signed a quality DB in FA to go with returneing starter Madieu williams, so...lets add another DB to the list..OH and while we're at it let's bring in a Left Tackle to replace...what? 2 pro bowlers?

I'm seriously not happy right now...Can someone clarify that I'm just not in tune with the world according to Marvin?

[Swaggs]

Ok, someone with a clue want to help me understand the BENGALS DRAFT PICKS???

W.....T......F????

We needed a big play/target tight end...nope.
We needed another BIG body NT type.....Nope.
We signed a quality DB in FA to go with returneing starter Madieu williams, so...lets add another DB to the list..OH and while we're at it let's bring in a Left Tackle to replace...what? 2 pro bowlers?

I'm seriously not happy right now...Can someone clarify that I'm just not in tune with the world according to Marvin?

Have you been a Bengals fan for like less than a year? ;)

[stevew]

Ok, someone with a clue want to help me understand the BENGALS DRAFT PICKS???

W.....T......F????

We needed a big play/target tight end...nope.
We needed another BIG body NT type.....Nope.
We signed a quality DB in FA to go with returneing starter Madieu williams, so...lets add another DB to the list..OH and while we're at it let's bring in a Left Tackle to replace...what? 2 pro bowlers?

I'm seriously not happy right now...Can someone clarify that I'm just not in tune with the world according to Marvin?
4/5 of the Bengals OL hit free agency this offseason.

[RendeR]

Actually the entire line WOULD have hit FA NEXT offseason, not this one. Theyll get deals done with Willie and Steinbach, no problem there, they already have a deal with Williams, so that leaves Center and Levi Jones to worry about. I don't see LEvi...Levi-ing the Bengals, he's not THAT good.

So again, someone got a random clue dropped by Marvin and his secret agent drafting board? None of these picks makes sense based on the teams needs. I have no doubt they are Marvin-style players, but damnit man, when you have guys like Pope and others out there WHY NOT GET ONE!

[RendeR]

Have you been a Bengals fan for like less than a year? ;)
Our drafts under marvin have, until now been superior to almost anyone elses. I haven't had any real issues with the guys they've taken. Ok Stacey Andrews was a HUGE reach, but if he ever pans out, he'll be a monster.

But this year the first three picks are....well to be honest, nobodies. No names, nothing to really talk about, and unfortunately, nothing that fills holes we have right now. I'm just bewildered after 3 seasons of stupendous Drafts.


Oh...and to answer your silly question, I've been a Bengals fan since the stripes first struck the Mighty Ohio River.

1981, the Year the Bengals became real Tigers.

Its been a long fucking haul let me tell you......but its been worth it =)

[stevew]

Actually the entire line WOULD have hit FA NEXT offseason, not this one. Theyll get deals done with Willie and Steinbach, no problem there, they already have a deal with Williams, so that leaves Center and Levi Jones to worry about. I don't see LEvi...Levi-ing the Bengals, he's not THAT good.


Yeah, that's what I meant, they hit the FA after next season, although I see now that I worded it poorly. Gotta draft for depth, you can't keep everyone.

[RendeR]

Yeah, that's what I meant, they hit the FA after next season, although I see now that I worded it poorly. Gotta draft for depth, you can't keep everyone.


Actually, the way the salary cap is going, they should have no real problem keeping the O-line in tact. I could possibly see them drafting the tackle if they felt Willie might retire soon, but he's not getting hurt a lot and he's still one of the best tackles in the league, so I dunno...

[stevew]

Actually, the way the salary cap is going, they should have no real problem keeping the O-line in tact. I could possibly see them drafting the tackle if they felt Willie might retire soon, but he's not getting hurt a lot and he's still one of the best tackles in the league, so I dunno...

In his final season, Whitworth did not allow a sack, he started 50 games at the college level, so he can probably play in year one if you get an injury. I think Marvin addressed areas where your team needed improvement and places where you needed depth. I didn't think the secondary was as good as it should be, yeah, they did get the turnovers, but you can't always count on them, you gotta get stops and play good coverage too. The games I watched of them, I thought there was room for improvement. This Joseph kid is very fast and a pretty good prospect at CB, he'll start in a year.

I don't know that the big body DT type you want, would have actually been available when you pick. The guy the Bills took in the first was pretty much the last of the upper tier DT's, and he was graded as a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I think Pope could be a pretty good TE prospect, so if my team needed a TE I would be dissapointed he was passed up on. The fact, though, that he made it into the 3rd shows that other teams didnt have him that highly graded, either.

With the success that Marvins had, I would wait until the 2nd day is over until I questioned him.

Shit, you could have had the Bills or Vikes draft, I thought the bengals did pretty well.

[bulletsponge]

Shit, you could have had the Bills or Vikes draft, I thought the bengals did pretty well. ;( god its sad when the Bungles have better drafts than you

[johnnyshaka]

Absolutely love the Eagles' first two picks!! In a lot of mock drafts, both Bunkley and Justice don't make it to the Eagles and the Eagles manage to get both and didn't give up much to do it. Fan-frickin-tastic!!!!

Gocong is a little puzzling as I'm sure they could've got him in the 4th or 5th round but they may have been targeting him and then heard that somebody else was just as interested...who knows?? I would've liked to see a receiver picked here, somebody like Maurice Stovall or Derek Hagan, instead.

As for tomorrow, I think they'll grab a receiver, hopefully a big, sure handed guy like Martin Nance or Hank Baskett with one of their 4th round picks. It would've been nice to also grab a "big" runningback to compliment Westbrook, but free agency may be the best solution to fill that need. The offensive line is probably the other place they could improve, or at least look for some depth.

[Daimyo]

Ok, someone with a clue want to help me understand the BENGALS DRAFT PICKS???

W.....T......F????

We needed a big play/target tight end...nope.
We needed another BIG body NT type.....Nope.
We signed a quality DB in FA to go with returneing starter Madieu williams, so...lets add another DB to the list..OH and while we're at it let's bring in a Left Tackle to replace...what? 2 pro bowlers?

I'm seriously not happy right now...Can someone clarify that I'm just not in tune with the world according to Marvin?
Welcome to being a fan of a good team, it may take some getting used to not picking at the top of the draft every year.

[IwasHere]

From this link http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_DRAFT_TITANS_WHITE?SITE=TNMEM&SECTION=SPORTS

Coach Jeff Fisher said there were published reports about a positive drug test at the NFL Combine.
That is crazy.

Here is what NBC Sports reported tonight.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12547820/


NBCSports.com news services
Updated: 6:21 p.m. ET April 29, 2006

USC's White reportedly failed NFL drug test
Running back drops to 45th overall pick with Titans


Why would NBC report this unless they could seriously back it up. Unlike Fisher who may be using some Spin Controll, NBC could be held Liable for damaging Whites career and face serious litigation.

I think Fisher is Spininning the Fact that the Texan Franchise does not have any reports currently in their offices that have White testing positive for drugs. The NBC article states that the NFL has reports in their offices that White had a positive test. So, I guess legally they are both telling the truth?

[Vince]

The only failed drug test I read about was the DT Wroten.

[Vince]

Dola -- anyone know much about WR Brandon Williams out of Wisconsin? Seems like he's primarily a Punt Returner, and that is all the Niners apparently will use him for in the beginning...but man do our receivers suck -- I can't imagine this kid can't crack the rotation at all. We have what, Antonio Bryant and Arnaz Battle? Who's #3, P.J. Fleck?

I'm very excited that the 49ers might be able to pick up either S Darnell Bing or WR Demetrius Williams in the fourth round.

[JAG]

So why exactly did the Cowboys pick a TE in the second when we have Witten? I know we lost Dan Campbell, but damn I think we have more pressing needs than #2 TE...

Word from Jerry is Dallas' base formation will be a 2 TE set, so in that light getting another starter-quality all-around TE does make more sense. The DE they selected was pretty surprising to me, but considering they didn't leap to take an OT or a S when there were some decent prospects left (at least at S), I have to figure the scouts were pretty high on the guy they selected.

[JAG]

The only failed drug test I read about was the DT Wroten.

I heard word he was the only position player to fail a drug test, but there was word one other player had also tested positive.

[Julio Riddols]

Ok, someone with a clue want to help me understand the BENGALS DRAFT PICKS???

W.....T......F????

We needed a big play/target tight end...nope.
We needed another BIG body NT type.....Nope.
We signed a quality DB in FA to go with returneing starter Madieu williams, so...lets add another DB to the list..OH and while we're at it let's bring in a Left Tackle to replace...what? 2 pro bowlers?

I'm seriously not happy right now...Can someone clarify that I'm just not in tune with the world according to Marvin?


From one Bengals fan to another, here is an explanation of what I think Cinci's thought process was on the first three picks-

1- CB Johnathan Joseph - Brought in specifically to take over Tory James' job in a year or two, because James is getting old. I think he is 32 or 33 now.

He will most likely take Keiwan Ratliff's nickel snaps for a while and Keiwan might end up moving to Free Safety permanently as a backup to Madieu Williams in case he gets hurt again.

He also seems to be willing to play special teams, and with that kind of speed (Ran a 4.31) should be one of the first guys down the field most of the time. They lost Kevin Walter this offseason, and he was their Special teams ace.

2- T Andrew Whitworth - I guarantee you this is an insurance pick in case Willie doesn't re-sign. He (Willie) sounds like the one that has the most seperation between what he wants and what Cinci can afford to give, and I am guessing they keep Levi Jones and Steinbach before they keep Willie. There is always the chance Anderson re-signs next season, but if he wants to break the bank and Whitworth can step in, I would rather see that happen.

- it is worth noting that I definitely wanted Pope here, but I think theyre looking at Charles Davis, Tim Day, or Jeff King in round 4 or 5. Personally, I like Davis, he played basketball, and he is said to be a good blocker with size and work ethic and a high upside.

3- DE Frostee Rucker - I admit I think this was a stretch, but I think if Marvin sees something in someone, I trust him. He has done really well with the drafts he has been a part of. Rucker is likely someone who will push Robert Geathers on the outside, or maybe be a situational pass rusher. He looked good in the East-West shrine game as well, so maybe he'll be better than we think.

We'll see what they do today.. I'm thinking they go for a guy like Rodrique Wright or Orien Harris or Darnell Bing if they fall to them in round 4, then in 5-7 they get their tight end, possibly a QB, and some interior offensive line help, probably at guard. Maybe one of those 3 punters to challenge Larson a bit.

I'd like to see them pick up Steve Fifita in round 7 if they don't have another DT by then. I liked what I saw from him the couple times I watched him play last season.

[miami_fan]

That is crazy.

Here is what NBC Sports reported tonight.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12547820/


Why would NBC report this unless they could seriously back it up. Unlike Fisher who may be using some Spin Controll, NBC could be held Liable for damaging Whites career and face serious litigation.

I think Fisher is Spininning the Fact that the Texan Franchise does not have any reports currently in their offices that have White testing positive for drugs. The NBC article states that the NFL has reports in their offices that White had a positive test. So, I guess legally they are both telling the truth?

I am not debating whether it is true or not. None of us really know. It is not the first time such reports have happened around the draft and certainly won't be the last. My question is why go out of your way to spin a positive? The Titans don't really have any reason to spin this one or the another. Especially not for the #45 pick in the draft. It would make sense to spin the drug situation if you were taking him in the first round. If it is true, the Titans could say "We believe it is a one time thing and our background checks have us comfortable with that." No big deal. Going out of their way to deny the reports just makes no sense to me.

[Suburban Rhythm]

I think this WR will push Morgan and Washington for a spot, perhaps also push Morey for one as well on ST. I'm a bit perplexed, as I would have thought they would have taken another defensive player, and then tried to get a return type or slash guy, maybe a Jeremy Bloom/Reggie McNeal in the 4th

Agree...my wife said "So they've taken 2 WRs?". Exactly.

Day 2, they hopefully address LB depth-- probably an OLB type guy, that leaves them this guy outside, Wallce inside, and Harrison able to play both positions. Plus whoever they keep out of Arnold Harrison, Frazier, or whoever else, like Clint Freaking Kriewaldt. I've never understood his place on the team, and touted as a good ST guy, cause I've never once seen him in the first wave of guys downfield or make a ST tackle.

Other day 2 spots-- QB (Gradkowski?) and OL (someone like Rob Sims, OSU, who might be able to backup multiple positions?) since Faneca is over 30, Simmons done after next year (?) and no certainities with Kemoeatu, need depth at G. They'll take a TE with one of the late picks, to be the #3 this year, and probably #2 next year. The guy doesn't need to be able to catch, just block.

the last pick? Who know...they have a thing for BYU DE's (Keisel, Nua) and Polynesian DE's (Nua, Kimo)...so Manaia Brown from BYU looks like a great fit!

[Logan]

I can't believe Devin Hester went in the 2nd round.

[miami_fan]

I can't believe Devin Hester went in the 2nd round.

He has that.....POTENTIAL!

I can't believe it either;)

[Logan]

I question the Niners' pick of Michael Robinson, especially with a bunch of quality safeties there.

EDIT: And of course, Oakland takes Bing with the next pick.

[Bearcat729]

ESPN says that the Lions are thinking about trading Harrington to the Browns or Chiefs. Why would these teams want Harrington?

[miami_fan]

ESPN says that the Lions are thinking about trading Harrington to the Browns or Chiefs. Why would these teams want Harrington?

I could see the Chiefs. They only have Damon Huard backing up Trent Green. I don't see the Browns with Frye starting this year.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

What did the Lions get in the trade with New England?

[Easy Mac]

I could see the Chiefs. They only have Damon Huard backing up Trent Green. I don't see the Browns with Frye starting this year.

They just drafted Croyle though, so I wouldn't want Harrington in the same state.

[Bearcat729]

Hmm the Pats just drafted a kicker from Memphis

[miami_fan]

I am not that impressed with Croyle.

Where is dawgfan? I need some info on Joe Toledo.

[larrymcg421]

I still don't understand why Damon Huard has had to suffer as a clipboard holder. I really liked him and thought he had potential when he was with the Dolphins. He had a 5-1 career record as a starter, but apparently Wanny had some kind of gay love affair with Fielder.

[albionmoonlight]

Hmm the Pats just drafted a kicker from MemphisHe's a good kicker. I was hoping that the Saints would pick him.

[johnnyshaka]

Word from Jerry is Dallas' base formation will be a 2 TE set, so in that light getting another starter-quality all-around TE does make more sense. The DE they selected was pretty surprising to me, but considering they didn't leap to take an OT or a S when there were some decent prospects left (at least at S), I have to figure the scouts were pretty high on the guy they selected.

The Cowboys base formation will be a two tight end set?? What the hell for?? I can't imagine that would sit well with TO...good luck with that.

[Joe]

anyone know anything about Tavaris Jackson? I am thinking the Vikings picked another guy they could have waited much longer to get.

[Swaggs]

anyone know anything about Tavaris Jackson? I am thinking the Vikings picked another guy they could have waited much longer to get.

I don't know much about him, but the thinking there may be that they wanted to get him in the 2nd round, so that they could sign him for a little bit longer of a deal, so he has time to develop and have a manageable contract if he pans out.

[Daimyo]

The Cowboys base formation will be a two tight end set?? What the hell for?? I can't imagine that would sit well with TO...good luck with that.
Because the Colt's base two-TE formation always hindered Marvin Harrison so much...

[Cuckoo]

The Cowboys base formation will be a two tight end set?? What the hell for?? I can't imagine that would sit well with TO...good luck with that.

Daimyo's right. It shouldn't have any effect on TO at all. They'll play pretty much without a fullback and go to a 3 wide in some passing situations. The pick makes a bit more sense with that intention in mind.

Now, who knows much about Skylar Green from LSU? I remember him as kind of a small, quick guy. Can he punt/kick return? Good hands?

[stevew]

Agree...my wife said "So they've taken 2 WRs?". Exactly.

Day 2, they hopefully address LB depth-- probably an OLB type guy, that leaves them this guy outside, Wallce inside, and Harrison able to play both positions. Plus whoever they keep out of Arnold Harrison, Frazier, or whoever else, like Clint Freaking Kriewaldt. I've never understood his place on the team, and touted as a good ST guy, cause I've never once seen him in the first wave of guys downfield or make a ST tackle.

Other day 2 spots-- QB (Gradkowski?) and OL (someone like Rob Sims, OSU, who might be able to backup multiple positions?) since Faneca is over 30, Simmons done after next year (?) and no certainities with Kemoeatu, need depth at G. They'll take a TE with one of the late picks, to be the #3 this year, and probably #2 next year. The guy doesn't need to be able to catch, just block.

the last pick? Who know...they have a thing for BYU DE's (Keisel, Nua) and Polynesian DE's (Nua, Kimo)...so Manaia Brown from BYU looks like a great fit!'

If you get a chance, watch the Reid video clips on yahoo sports. Dude is a dynamic punt returner, I'm actually very happy with the pick.

[Logan]

I liked DT Orien Harris (Pitt's last pick) until about four seconds ago, when I saw that he's Kwame's brother.

Gross.