College Football Week 9 thread (spoilers inside)

[TazFTW]

Clemson - Virginia Tech getting under way on ESPN.

[TazFTW]

Clemson has used all of thier timeouts with 7:55 to go in the first quarter.

[heardie]

The Virgina Tech punter is a unit

[ISiddiqui]

This is quite the surprise, eh?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Downright shocking.

[Toddzilla]

Does this game expose Clemson (and the whole ACC) as being completely overrated, or are the lot of teams at the top of the ACC standings - Clemson, Georgia Tech, Boston College, and now VPI - actually pretty good teams?

[Wolfpack]

I think both. Clemson is always a trendy choice for best in the ACC since the coach has the last name of Bowden, but usually at some point in the season, they'll slip on a banana peel (or two or three, depending on how things are going). As for the ACC as a whole, there are a number of good teams, but we don't have a monster team like Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, USC, WVU, or L'Ville. You'll hear the ACC is down because we don't have that great team, but you'll never hear how the other leagues are "top-heavy", especially, say, the Big Ten, Pac-10, or Big 12. The ACC just has a bunch of teams that are capable of beating each other depending on where and when the game is played. This is not to say that the ACC is great in 2006, but it's awful hard to look good when everyone's got a loss already at the halfway mark of the conference season and the majority have two or more losses. The current state of play in the league seems to indicate that there will be a lot of tiebreaking done to determine who's playing in Jacksonville. I've never seen the ACC so scrambled in the standings as I have this year.

[timmynausea]

Here's something I've been wondering about: Who is the best QB in the ACC? I'd probably have to go with Ryan at BC, which is scary. Even scarier is that he is pretty much head and shoulders above anyone else. This has to be the weakest group of starting quarterbacks in the history of the ACC.

[Swaggs]

I was trying to think of OOC games that the ACC has played in. Do they have many marquee OOC wins this year or did the teams schedule light, thinking they would get beat up in conference?

I know Clemson-South Carolina, Florida-FSU, and Georgia-GT will be later in the season, but the only significant OOC games I can recall are the close GT-Notre Dame game and the Miami-Louisville game.

And the reason I ask, is that it is really too soon to tell how good or bad the ACC is because they have really only beat up on each other. I think if they win some of those rivalry games and their fair share of bowl games, people can say the ACC has parity and beats itself up. If they lose most of their bowl games and OOC rivalry games, you would have to say that they lost a lot of talent in the draft and had a bad year.

[cartman]

The game between Texas-Texas Tech tomorrow night has me a bit worried. Texas usually doesn't play well in Lubbock. Texas Tech has been hot and cold this year, scoring only 3 points and giving Colorado their first win of the year, to scoring 42 the next game in their victory over Iowa State. They view Texas as their main rival, but the 'Horns don't see it that way, with OU and A&M much higher on the rival scale. Mike Leach is going to have his team fired up and ready. That, combined with the poor play and injuries in UT's secondary, make for an interesting game.

[Celeval]

I was trying to think of OOC games that the ACC has played in. Do they have many marquee OOC wins this year or did the teams schedule light, thinking they would get beat up in conference?

The ACC is 27-11 in OOC games, but not many marquee matchups - you hit the highlights. Upcoming games against bigger teams are are GT-UGA, UNC (haha)-ND, Clemson-USC, FSU-UF.

[General Mike]

Tulsa's mascot is the weirdest thing I have ever seen.

[cartman]

Tulsa's mascot is the weirdest thing I have ever seen.

Even weirder than the Stanford Tree?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/StanfordTree.jpg/200px-StanfordTree.jpg

[General Mike]

Even weirder than the Stanford Tree?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8e/StanfordTree.jpg/200px-StanfordTree.jpg

Yeah.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/tuls/non-sport/trads/Captain_Cane-150.jpg

[cartman]

I went with one of my buddies and his son (7 yrs. old) to a hockey tournament in San Jose. For some reason, the Stanford tree was there. My friend's boy wasn't paying attention where he was going and bumped into the tree. He looked up, saw the tree, and immediately started crying his eyes out and screaming in fear.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I guess I was dozing when this was announced & just missed it, but I didn't realize that the newly named "VS" network (formerly OLN) was carrying college football games. Just saw a promo for BYU vs Air Force tomorrow.

[cartman]

Jeebs isn't going to be happy. UTEP was once leading 20-6. They are now trailing Tulsa 30-20 with 8 minutes to go.

[cartman]

And Tulsa moves to 7-1 with a 30-20 win. Before watching the game, I had no idea Tulsa's coach was such a hot coaching commodity.

[duckman]

I bet Jeebs has a gash from banging his head into the steering wheel. :D

[Dr. Sak]

Wisconsin down 21-3 to Illinois in the first half

[cthomer5000]

Navy is trying to make a game of it. 17-14, Notre Dame leads, 2:43 to go in the 1st half.

[Celeval]

I love watching a Paul Johnson team on offense.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Oklahoma up 16-3 over Missouri in Q2.
Meanwhile, Wisconsin cuts Illinois lead to 21-10.

[General Mike]

Notre Dame's defense is a joke.

[Celeval]

Only punt of the first half in ND-Navy comes with about :30 left... ND leads 24-14 at the half. Navy has punted and missed a FG, ND has 3 TDs and a FG. The option is working well for the Mids, racking up 212 yards rushing in the first half.. but Quinn is 11-15 for 196, 2-0.

[cartman]

nice acting job by the OU punter to draw a 15 yard penalty. He was barely touched.

[General Mike]

John L. Smith is done.

Down 30-7 at Indiana.

[mauchow]

Wisconsin finally playing well.. down only 24-20 with the ball. Yay. We need to win by 17+ so we don't drop in the polls this week, although that would be difficult to do with a win since Clemson now drops below 'em.

It sucks PJ Hill got hurt.

[Dr. Sak]

What happened to PJ Hill?

[st.cronin]

What happened to PJ Hill?

Haven't actually heard, but it looked like a possible concussion. He was able to walk off, but he was on the ground for a bit.

[mauchow]

He's gotten hit hard today.... the two hardest hits he got knocked out both times, one was a neck injury, the second I do believe like st cronin said was a concussion.

[st.cronin]

John Stocco is the Lindsey Lohan of college QBs. Sometimes he looks like a solid NFL prospect, other times you can't believe he was ever recruited by a football team.

[cartman]

It appears that Ron Zook spent a little too much time with John L. Smith at the Big 10 coach's convention.

[st.cronin]

It appears that Ron Zook spent a little too much time with John L. Smith at the Big 10 coach's convention.

True freshman at QB, lots of other freshmen getting playing time. Zook in the Big 10 still gets an INC imo.

[cartman]

True freshman at QB, lots of other freshmen getting playing time. Zook in the Big 10 still gets an INC imo.

I mean it more in how Illinois played in the 2nd half vs. the 1st half. They looked like two different teams.

[cartman]

Interesting pattern on the turf in Florida. They did a herringbone pattern between the 40s. If it weren't in HD, I would have figured it just was bad reception. :)

[VPI97]

It's coming close to being game over in Atlanta with just five minutes gone. Can't say I'm too upset about that.

[Cuckoo]

nice acting job by the OU punter to draw a 15 yard penalty. He was barely touched.

So I guess the legging bending to the side was acting, huh? Come on... Bad angle by the Mizzou player and it was indeed a penalty - maybe not a roughing, but definitely a penalty.

Good win for the Sooners, but they did some things poorly that were covered up by all the Mizzou mistakes. Daniel's going to be a good one, but the OU defense looked fairly solid today, coming up with some big plays. And the running game for OU was nice as well.

I think Mizzou's a good team, and they're going to be much better in the coming years. If they can put some talent, maybe a running game, around Daniel, they're going to be a force in the North.

[Easy Mac]

Wow, it only took Reggie Ball 25 seconds to lose the game, thats a record, even for him.

Is anyone else having weird problems with the audio for the HD games? I can't hear the announcers at all in the FLA-GA game, but the crowd noise comes in perfectly over all speakers. A similar problem with GT-MIA, but I can kind of hear the announcers. Every now and again I can hear the announcers perfectly, but most of the time its next to nothing.

[Easy Mac]

Beavers on top of the Trojans early

[cartman]

So I guess the legging bending to the side was acting, huh? Come on... Bad angle by the Mizzou player and it was indeed a penalty - maybe not a roughing, but definitely a penalty.

I felt is was defintely a 5 yard running into, but no way it was a 15 yarder. That's why I put '15 yard' in my quote. The side camera angle showed the punter landing with two feet on the ground then falling over.

[cartman]

Beavers on top of the Trojans early

In any other thread, that could be a bannable quote...

:D

[Cuckoo]

I felt is was defintely a 5 yard running into, but no way it was a 15 yarder. That's why I put '15 yard' in my quote. The side camera angle showed the punter landing with two feet on the ground then falling over.

Yeah, I agree that it was only a 5 yarder - it wasn't brutal enough to be roughing. The Mizzou player missed him with his body, but his legs swiped through and nailed that back leg of Cohen. I don't think his falling down was "acting." His leg looked to have been hit pretty hard.

[TazFTW]

I hate the jump shot celebration.

[st.cronin]

I like the Beaver cheerleaders.

[larrymcg421]

Does anyone here know Paul Maguire? If so, could you please tell him to shut up?

[cartman]

And Temple stuns Bowling Green 28-14 to end their 20 game losing streak.

[bulletsponge]

I like the Beaver cheerleaders.


insert pun

[Noop]

I hate the jump shot celebration.

BALLIN

[larrymcg421]

Nice move Coker. Javarris James has 6 carries for 60 yards, but let's give it to Tyrone Moss, who has played like crap all year, in a clutch situation.

[cartman]

Beautiful pass there by Reggie Ball for the TD

[larrymcg421]

Can Baraka Atkins play OL, too? They might want to consider that.

[st.cronin]

I'm smelling a loss for USC today.

[cartman]

USC can't hold on to the ball today. Oregon State should have this game well in hand, but they are making some questionable play calls around the goal line, and settling for FGs and not TDs.

[RPI-Fan]

What channel is the GT/MIA game on??? On ESPN I have "College Football Overdrive"???

[cartman]

What channel is the GT/MIA game on??? On ESPN I have "College Football Overdrive"???

It's an ABC regional broadcast.

[henry296]

GT/MIA is on ABC as one of the regional 3:30 games. Do you have OSU on ABC?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Florida 14-0 over UGA, starting Q3.

Stafford just 4/13 for 54 yds and 1 INT.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Oops. Make that 21-0 Florida, Georgia bobbles a handoff and Florida runs it back for a short 20'ish yd TD.

[cartman]

That's not how UGa wanted to start the 2nd half. Fumble recovered by Florida for a TD. 21-0.

[Easy Mac]

That's classy.

Watching my Paladins against App St. (we're getting waxed... visit firebobbylamb.com shortly).

Anyway, to get the crowd hyped, the chancellor of App State was standing on a board being carried by the cheerleaders. As he was going by the fans, he was giving the throat slash motion... thats classy.

[Easy Mac]

dola, everytime i've turned on the game, TD app State, block FG for a TD for App State, INT for App State, and now a FG for App State.

[cartman]

Oregon St. stops USC on their opening drive of the 2nd half, then scores a TD on the ensuing drive. 23-10 Beavers.

[k0ruptr]

wow. So if Oregon St. holds on to beat USC , then I wonder if people will change their view on Boise St. The smurfs destroyed the beavers 42-14

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm definitely concerned. USC isn't playing to their potential, but they are still in the game if they can score on this drive. However, this is a critical drive.

[k0ruptr]

3 and out.

[cartman]

Punt return for TD for Oregon State!

[Eaglesfan27]

Shit. That punt return seals it I think. :(


If USC does come back, this would be an amazing come back.

[st.cronin]

And USC is officially falling apart.

[Eaglesfan27]

You aren't kidding. What a horrible fumble :(


This is so sad to see.

[Joe]

USC is just falling apart. nice fumble.

[Swaggs]

Wow... all of USC's good luck from this season is flying away at once.

[st.cronin]

Wow... this is turning into an EPIC disaster for the Trojans.

[Joe]

inside the 10 now

[k0ruptr]

I am loving this!

[cartman]

It's been a LONG time since USC has looked this bad. They are making Oregon State look like last year's Trojans.

[Swaggs]

When is the last time USC lost a regular season game?

[cthomer5000]

Looking at the polls and BCS rankings, am I correct in saying that a USC loss should give West Virginia and Louisville control of their own national title hopes?

[Swaggs]

Anyone watching Nebraska-Okla. State? I see the score, but am surprised that Nebraska isn't winning.

[Swaggs]

Looking at the polls and BCS rankings, am I correct in saying that a USC loss should give West Virginia and Louisville control of their own national title hopes?

Shhhhh! ;)

[Joe]

When is the last time USC lost a regular season game?

I think the triple-OT loss to Cal in 2003?

[Joe]

oh man turnover on downs

[cartman]

Oregon State can ice the game with a 7 or 8 minute scoring drive.

[Eaglesfan27]

I think the triple-OT loss to Cal in 2003?


Yep. It will be interesting to see how the team bounces back in future weeks..

Before the season started, I thought they would be a 1 or 2 loss team that finished somewhere around the top 10. I think I told Troy that when we were playing NCAA on the 360 at one point. I was hoping for more, but I'm not truly surprised that they are losing. I am surprised it is Oregon State that they are losing to..

[Swaggs]

I think the triple-OT loss to Cal in 2003?

Sept. 27, 2003 -- You are right.

That is a hell of a run.

[Joe]

is this where the game turns

[cartman]

Big break for USC on the brainfart of Oregon State's punter

[Eaglesfan27]

Huge break with the bad handling of the punt snap and missed kick. Can USC get any momentum going? This would be an unbelievable come back..

[Swaggs]

Do the Trojans go for two if they score here?

[Eaglesfan27]

TD Fred Davis. I think they go for 1 here and 2 later.

[WVUFAN]

TD USC.

C'Mon, Oregon State, don't blow this ...

[cthomer5000]

Do the Trojans go for two if they score here?

You wait as long as you can, in my opinion, so you just kick the XP after the first TD>

[st.cronin]

Do the Trojans go for two if they score here?

Apparently not, which raises the question of why not kick the figgie before?

[cartman]

TD saving tackle by USC on that kickoff return

[Swaggs]

Miami and GT are tied up at 16.

[Swaggs]

Apparently not, which raises the question of why not kick the figgie before?

That's what I was thinking.

[cartman]

The other OSU in action, Oklahoma State, is about to put Nebraska away. They just scored a TD to go up by 11, pending PAT.

[Swaggs]

Weak call, in my opinion.

[cartman]

Yep, that was not PI.

[Eaglesfan27]

Touchdown USC!!!! Steve Smith!

[Eaglesfan27]

2 point conversion is good! Momentum is on USC's side!

[st.cronin]

Disregard the last 15 posts or so.

[Vegas Vic]

The Big XII North sucks. It looks like all six teams from the South could end up bowl eligible this year. :eek:

[cartman]

The Bix XII North sucks. It looks like all six teams from the South could end up bowl eligible this year. :eek:

What was all that talk back when the Big 12 was formed that the SWC needed it more than the Big 8? ;) Throw in TCU and Houston, and the former SWC teams aren't looking bad at all this season.

[k0ruptr]

damn beavers.

[larrymcg421]

I still don't understand why USC didn't go for two earlier. You need three scores and will have to go for two points twice. Why not go for it on the first two instead of the last two? This is really one of the most baffling things about modern football strategy.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sack and FUMBLE ... GT has the ball & a 7 pt lead with under 5 minutes left.

[cartman]

Ga. Tech takes the lead over Miami 23-16.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Meanwhile, Tebow fumbles & UGA has the ball inside the FLA 20 with 9:30 left.
Still 21-7 Florida but Georgia threatening to get back in it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tashard Choice right up the middle, it's 30-16 GT with 3:49 left.

[Swaggs]

Gut check time for OSU and USC.

[Eaglesfan27]

The FG is no good!!! And that announcer must have a really bad viewpoint. It never looked good.

[Swaggs]

Georgia scores. UF still leads 21-14.

[Eaglesfan27]

I still don't understand why USC didn't go for two earlier. You need three scores and will have to go for two points twice. Why not go for it on the first two instead of the last two? This is really one of the most baffling things about modern football strategy.


It's psychology. The team is finally starting to get momentum going and if you miss the 2 there it kills the team's spirit.

You need 2 2's anyway. Why not wait until you've scored another TD and have things going your way.

[JonInMiddleGA]

And Miami is right back in the hunt, it's 30-23 with 2:37 left after that big TE just shed two tacklers & went the distance for a score.

[Swaggs]

Win or lose, Oregon State's DBs have played a really nice game against some excellent WRs.

[Eaglesfan27]

Man. The defense has to step up again..

[Swaggs]

I don't like Oregon State not running on first down here. They need the clock to be moving.

[Eaglesfan27]

Darn. That run on 3rd and 8 for a first is a heart breaker.

[cartman]

Huge 1st down for the Beavers.

[Vegas Vic]

Tashard Choice right up the middle, it's 30-16 GT with 3:49 left.

I'm glad to see he's doing well. He was the 4th team RB at Oklahoma before he transferred to Ga. Tech, and now he has a chance to show his talent.

[Noop]

Bye Larry. I already knew you were gone away but now I am sure your replacement will be Coach Shannon until the season is over.

[cartman]

And that's the ballgame for Nebraska. On 3rd and 10, their QB fumbles the ball, it rolls right to an Oklahoma State player who returns it for a TD. 41-23 Cowboys.

[Joe]

Looking at the polls and BCS rankings, am I correct in saying that a USC loss should give West Virginia and Louisville control of their own national title hopes?

A 1 loss OSU would probably still be ahead of those teams.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Miami just fumbled a massive punt by GT, Jackets ball with :19 left.

Second huge punt of the day by Durant Brooks, who really might just be the player of the game for GT. (Had a career long 63 yd punt from his own end zone earlier when the game was still tied).

[Eaglesfan27]

What a huge stop by the defense.

[cthomer5000]

A 1 loss OSU would probably still be ahead of those teams.

Really? OSU losing their last game to Michigan would still keep them ahead of an undefeat Louisville or West Virginia? That'd be kinda whack, in my opinion.

[Swaggs]

I go for the kick here, I think.

[cartman]

I have a feeling Oregon State is gonna run a fake...

[Joe]

Really? OSU losing their last game to Michigan would still keep them ahead of an undefeat Louisville or West Virginia? That'd be kinda whack, in my opinion.

It would be whack

[larrymcg421]

Bye bye, Coker.

[Eaglesfan27]

Come on, block it!!!!

False Start will force a punt.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UGA gets the ball back at their own 42 after forcing a punt ... and promptly gets handed a 3-and-out. Punting it back to Florida with 3:50 to play, Gators still lead 21-14. Florida has missed a pair of 40ish yd FG's today to keep this one in doubt.

[larrymcg421]

Really? OSU losing their last game to Michigan would still keep them ahead of an undefeat Louisville or West Virginia? That'd be kinda whack, in my opinion.

Happened in 2001 when Nebraska got shredded by Colorado 62-36. Their very next game was the national championship.

[k0ruptr]

Happened in 2001 when Nebraska got shredded by Colorado 62-36. Their very next game was the national championship.

yea that was the year Oregon got screwed.

[Swaggs]

Outstanding catch!

[Eaglesfan27]

What a catch by Jarrett!

[Joe]

Happened in 2001 when Nebraska got shredded by Colorado 62-36. Their very next game was the national championship.

yeah. granted, the BCS formula has changed a few times since then, but I'm sure it could happen that way again.

[Joe]

oof bad time for a penalty

[Swaggs]

I think the arguments against the OSU/Mich loser playing in the title is that it is too late in the season for them to recover in the human polls from AND the human voters, outside of B10 country, would probably shy away from giving the loser the chance to make the season series a 1-1 tie, as then there would still be a question as to which is the better team.

[robbgmaier3]

that foot is out

[cartman]

here comes another Pac-10 replay call in the state of Oregon...

[Swaggs]

This could be a $15M call for USC.

[larrymcg421]

I think he's out there. It looks like his foot touched the edge of the white.

[cthomer5000]

nice USC payoff on that replay.

[robbgmaier3]

guy is a usc fan, and they are millimeters you moron

[larrymcg421]

Well if the replay officials are Oregon fans, then they certainly aren't going to give any calls to Oregon St.

[Eaglesfan27]

TD! STEVE SMITH!!!

[henry296]

If #4 for OSU doesn't fall for the play fake, he would've nailed Booty.

[robbgmaier3]

so when the guy in black pushes off, it's PI, and when the guy in white pushes off, it's not... i see....

[robbgmaier3]

I"VE GOT TWO WORDS FOR YOU!!!!

[Joe]

whoo

[Swaggs]

Wow...

[Eaglesfan27]

No. No. No. Terrible throw.

[robbgmaier3]

onside kick, 60 yd fg, usc wins....you wait it's coming :)

[Easy Mac]

The Beavers are all over the field!!!!!

And Fox Sports south just cut away for the beginning of hockey with 7 seconds left... love it

[Swaggs]

The Beavers are all over the field!!!!!

And Fox Sports south just cut away for the beginning of hockey with 7 seconds left... love it

Same here. WTF?

[cartman]

If you are Oregon State, call for the fair catch. They can't touch you, and the game is over.

[Easy Mac]

not on an onside kick if it bounces. not enough time for usc to get on the field though

[Joe]

I think the arguments against the OSU/Mich loser playing in the title is that it is too late in the season for them to recover in the human polls from AND the human voters, outside of B10 country, would probably shy away from giving the loser the chance to make the season series a 1-1 tie, as then there would still be a question as to which is the better team.

that is a good point. But I could see where the SOS of WVU hurts them.. although this will certainly improve as they are coming to the most difficult part of their season now. And I'm not sure if pollsters seem them as an elite team.

[cthomer5000]

game ova

[robbgmaier3]

hard to call for a fair catch when the ball is driven directly into the ground :)

[k0ruptr]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO

[biological warrior]

Beavers trim USC!

[biological warrior]

I wonder how far USC will go up in the standings after this one.

[cthomer5000]

that is a good point. But I could see where the SOS of WVU hurts them.. although this will certainly improve as they are coming to the most difficult part of their season now. And I'm not sure if pollsters seem them as an elite team.

Well, it doesn't matter how the pollsters see them really. If WVU wins out, they are obviously #2. If Louisville beats West Virginia this week, i'm guessing they leapfrog Texas so winning out would do the same for them.

[robbgmaier3]

ah, the sweet smell of suckage.....let's GOOOOOOOOOO mountaineers....please don't get beat by louisville....please?

[Easy Mac]

So did the Trojans just have difficulty penetrating the Beavers? I didn't watch, I prefered to let it play out in my head.

[st.cronin]

ding dong, the witch is dead

[timmynausea]

Oregon State takes down USC in the Big East game of the week!

[robbgmaier3]

what are those goalposts still doing up? man these fans suck

[Joe]

Well, it doesn't matter how the pollsters see them really. If WVU wins out, they are obviously #2. If Louisville beats West Virginia this week, i'm guessing they leapfrog Texas so winning out would do the same for them.

hmm.. heres something else for thought. if both of those teams lose and OSU beats Michigan.. do you give Texas the nod ahead of Michigan?

[robbgmaier3]

Oregon State takes down USC in the Big East game of the week!

nice :D

[robbgmaier3]

hmm.. heres something else for thought. if both of those teams lose and OSU beats Michigan.. do you give Texas the nod ahead of Michigan?

a pox on you, a pox i say!

[Joe]

a pox on you, a pox i say!

Rutgers then?

[cthomer5000]

hmm.. heres something else for thought. if both of those teams lose and OSU beats Michigan.. do you give Texas the nod ahead of Michigan?

Dunno. My original point was that WVU and Louisville now appear to have their fate in their own hands, because one of them going undefeated will almost certainly finish #2. (WVU would definitely, Louisville very likely).

So my real point is that OSU, Michigan, WVU and Louisville are all in the driver's seat.

Now if Louisville beats WVU and Rutgers beats Louisville (lets dream), I think all hell breaks loose for the eventual #2 spot in the polls.

[WVUFAN]

West Virginia now controls their own destiny. They win out, they're heading to the NC.

[k0ruptr]

hmm.. heres something else for thought. if both of those teams lose and OSU beats Michigan.. do you give Texas the nod ahead of Michigan?

not after Texas loses to TTech tonite.

[Vegas Vic]

With the human polls and computer rankings, Louisville is going to have a very difficult time finishing #2 in the BCS rankings if they go undefeated.

[cthomer5000]

Michigan
Ball State
@ Indiana
@ Ohio State

Ohio State
@ Illinois
@ Northwestern
Michigan

West Virginia
@ Louisville
Cincinnati
@ Pittsburgh
South Florida
Rutgers

Louisville
West Virginia
@ Rutgers
South Florida
@ Pittsburgh
UConn

Clearly Michigan or OSU is the #1 heading into the national title game. And I will say that at this point, I'm surprised if Louisville or West Virginia isn't the #2 at that point.

[Easy Mac]

So what if Rutgers wins it all in the Big East.? Do they have the juice to jump everyone? They're markedly better in the computers than WVU and somewhat better than Louisville. Would wins over those two be enough to get Rutgers to #2 in the polls?

[cthomer5000]

With the human polls and computer rankings, Louisville is going to have a very difficult time finishing #2 in the BCS rankings if they go undefeated.

Well, lets say for sure that Louisville just jumped up to #5 (OSU, Michigan, WVU, Texasm, Louisville). I think the odds are decent that they can leapfrog Texas with a win over the #3 team in the country on Thursday night. At that point it's in their hands to finish #2 in the human polls.

Unless their computer numbers are horrible, I can't see what will stop them.

[Easy Mac]

dola, Rutgers is currently #6 in the computer average (possibly up to %5 depending on how USC lands). The only thing holding them down is no love in the polls. If you gave them WVU polls, they'd be #3 (after factoring USC's loss)

[cthomer5000]

So what if Rutgers wins it all in the Big East.? Do they have the juice to jump everyone? They're markedly better in the computers than WVU and somewhat better than Louisville. Would wins over those two be enough to get Rutgers to #2 in the polls?

I don't think they'd have a chance without a lot of teams ahead of them losing.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Would wins over those two be enough to get Rutgers to #2 in the polls?

If so, that might be what brought about the end of the BCS.

[k0ruptr]

FUMBLE by Texas! woooohaw

[Joe]

does the BCS formula still have the quality win component?

[Easy Mac]

I don't think they'd have a chance without a lot of teams ahead of them losing.

Would you amend that knowing they're decidedly higher than Louisville and WVU in the computers? Based on results, there's no logical reason to rank them lower than those two in the human polls, aside from the name.

[Easy Mac]

does the BCS formula still have the quality win component?


no, thats basically factored in by the various computer ratings.

[cthomer5000]

Would you amend that knowing they're decidedly higher than Louisville and WVU in the computers? Based on results, there's no logical reason to rank them lower than those two in the human polls, aside from the name.

I just dont think they can climb high enough in the human polls to make it matter. They would probably need losses by:

Texas, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, Notre Dame and maybe Arkansas

What are the odds of all of that happening?

edit: Not to mention that Rutgers simply isn't that good. I'll be the first to admit it. 10-2 is a possibility right now, with 11-1 being the absolute ceiling in my opinion.

[sooner333]

14-0 Texas Tech.

[k0ruptr]

Graham Harrell looking like Colt Brennan tonight! 14-0 Texas Tech.

[k0ruptr]

Dola , Tech already has scored more points than they did against TCU and Colorado combined... hehehe

[Easy Mac]

well, auburn/arkansas or tennessee/florida have to lose. Tennessee has LSU. Tennessee and Arkansas play each other. Arkansas plays LSU. Florida is @FSU. ND is @USC. Then the SEC title game. Its not out of the question that all those teams could lose (plus Texas is down by 14).

So:
Tenn L to LSU
Ark L to Tenn/LSU
Florida L to FSU
Auburn L to Florida in SEC Champ.
Notre Dame L to USC
Texas L to TT

I'd put the odds of some kind of permutation actually occurring at around 30% at least.

[robbgmaier3]

what the hell is a red raider? GO RED RAIDERS!!!

[sooner333]

no, thats basically factored in by the various computer ratings.

True, but you could argue that the BCS has also disincentiveized playing good teams out of conference. Computer polls are 1/3 and if the human polls agree the computers mean less as you get toward the top of the polls (where there's going to be the least difference usually). Taking out the SOS and QW components have hurt. I think taking out margin of victory out of the computer polls has been the worst though. The BCS is a good system, but has tried to appease the public too much and its quality has gone down.

[robbgmaier3]

should have been 21 nil

[Easy Mac]

True, but you could argue that the BCS has also disincentiveized playing good teams out of conference. Computer polls are 1/3 and if the human polls agree the computers mean less as you get toward the top of the polls (where there's going to be the least difference usually). Taking out the SOS and QW components have hurt. I think taking out margin of victory out of the computer polls has been the worst though. The BCS is a good system, but has tried to appease the public too much and its quality has gone down.

Its quality would be higher without human polls.

[k0ruptr]

should have been 21 nil

soon enough my friend, soon enough :D

[DeToxRox]

Pac 10 is apparently now consulting the Big 12 replay crews

[DeToxRox]

Anyone watching TT/UT - How the fuck was that incomplete? That was an absolute joke.

[k0ruptr]

Word.

[cthomer5000]

Anyone watching TT/UT - How the fuck was that incomplete? That was an absolute joke.

The review looked inconclusive to me, to the point where if the original call was incomplete I would have said it should have remained incomplete. I certainly didn't see the evidence to overturn the call, but more often than not college officials leave me scratching my head.

[cthomer5000]

wow, INT return for a TD Tech. 20-0, extra point coming.

[Easy Mac]

Now its 21-0

[DeToxRox]

REDEMPTION!

Texas Tech pick six!

[k0ruptr]

ROFL

[robbgmaier3]

there's my 21 nil....hell boise state will be in the mix before things are done

[k0ruptr]

there's my 21 nil....hell boise state will be in the mix before things are done

I hope so.

[DeToxRox]

The review looked inconclusive to me, to the point where if the original call was incomplete I would have said it should have remained incomplete. I certainly didn't see the evidence to overturn the call, but more often than not college officials leave me scratching my head.

The sideline reporter said the official even asked what they were reviewing.

Doesn't matter now but wow, what a joke.

[st.cronin]

I thought it was clearly incomplete. It didn't look to me like he ever had possesion.

[cthomer5000]

Even if Texas comes back to win this, this is exactly the type of showing that gives me confidence that Louisville would leap-frog them in the human polls with a win over West Virginia.

[DeToxRox]

I thought it was clearly incomplete. It didn't look to me like he ever had possesion.

He caught it, ran about two yards then hit the ground and it popped out. I didn't see once where it was bobbling.

[k0ruptr]

Texas' secondary has to show up to the field before they can even think of coming back.

[st.cronin]

He caught it, ran about two yards then hit the ground and it popped out. I didn't see once where it was bobbling.

*shrug* I'm pulling for TT, but I thought it was incomplete before I even saw a replay. At the very least, I think it was defensible.

[cartman]

It appears my apprehension was correct. Texas has to hope that Tech blew their wad in the first quarter to have a chance to comeback in this one.

[st.cronin]

I bet Colt McCoy doesn't even own a razor.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee 7-0 over South Carolina early after a nifty catch-hit- fumble/takeaway and return for 20+ yd TD for the Vols.

Meanwhile, the poultry are driving and sitting around the UT 20 looking to tie it up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nice 74 yd drive by SC, but a WR tip + a DB tip = another DB getting the end zone pick.

[MJ4H]

Might want to keep one eye on the Arkansas vs ULM game. ULM got a big play right out of the gate and jumped out to a 7-0 lead and then picked off Mustain on the next series. Arkansas has rebounded to take a 14-7 lead nearing halftime, but ULM has some spark and Arkansas is not play well at all.

[TazFTW]

Well, mo has switched to Texas' side.

[st.cronin]

TT-UT should be a wild second half.

[Celeval]

Beautiful pass there by Reggie Ball for the TD

Reggie Ball, first half: 3-16, 101 yards, TD, 1 fumble
Reggie Ball, second half: 8-11, 87 yards, TD

He's inconsistant as all hell, but Reggie came up huge in the second half and the fourth quarter in particular for this win. I'm sure our quarterback next year will be a better pure quarterback, but I have to say I'll miss Reggie's competitive fire.

[Easy Mac]

USC jr. back in it, 14-10. A couple of different bounces (literally) and USC jr. has the lead.

[Celeval]

TT-UT should be a wild second half.

Harrell is 24-30, 361 yards, 3 TDs... that's a good whole game's work for most quarterbacks.

[cthomer5000]

Great catch on the TD right near the end of the half for Texas Tech.

[cartman]

TT-UT should be a wild second half.

what he said.

Texas' first possesion will be key. They need a TD coming out of halftime.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Might want to keep one eye on the Arkansas vs ULM game.

Well, you jinxed ULM neatly ;)

Now 30-7 Hawgs with 10 mins left Q3.

[st.cronin]

what he said.

Texas' first possesion will be key. They need a TD coming out of halftime.

Actually, I think TT's first possesion is key. If Texas hasn't made some adjustment and figured out how to stop this offense, they're going down.

[miami_fan]

Bye bye, Coker.

Hopefully Paul Dee is on the same bus out of town.:mad:

[larrymcg421]

Hopefully Paul Dee is on the same bus out of town.:mad:

Hopefully they'll both pass Butch Davis going the other way.

[MJ4H]

Well, you jinxed ULM neatly ;)

Now 30-7 Hawgs with 10 mins left Q3.

Definitely the goal. 37-7.

[st.cronin]

Man, McCoy is nifty. He's not much worse a runner than VY.

[st.cronin]

Harrell now with over 400 yards passing vs. UT. Still in the 3rd Quarter.

[JonInMiddleGA]

South Carolina takes advantage of a fumbled punt return by Tennessee, second chance for their offense produces a quick TD. Gamecocks lead 17-14 with 4:30 left in Q3.

[cartman]

31-28 Texas Tech at the end of the 3rd quarter. Texas has the ball at midfield to start the 4th.

[cartman]

Texas takes a 35-31 lead with 13 minutes left in the 4th.

[MJ4H]

44-10 Arkansas wins over ULM. Not the greatest performance, especially in the first half, but a solid win against a pretty out-manned opponent, obviously.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee regains the lead, 21-17 early in Q4.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee extends the lead to 28-17 with 10:25 left to play.
A one play, 5 yard TD drive set up by a 60+ yard punt return by Jonathan Heffney.

[Swaggs]

Maryland and Florida State are going down to the wire.

Maryland leads, 27-24, w/ FSU driving and 2:11 left.

[cartman]

This spot better stand under review. (tx tech-tx)

[cartman]

YES!!! First down Texas. 35-31 Texas with 6 minutes to go.

[biological warrior]

FUMBLE!

[cartman]

Crap, fumble by Texas...

:(

[st.cronin]

hahahahaha GO RED RAIDERS

[larrymcg421]

Ha! I loved the Tech fans who shot the officials a bird after the spot.

[cartman]

WOOT!

[cthomer5000]

Texas Tech, you fools. ugh. really blowing many golden opportunieis here.

[Swaggs]

Florida State's 46-yard FG is blocked with about 45 seconds left and Maryland wins, 27-24. Florida State moves to a 4-4 record.

WVU's big win over Maryland earlier in the season is going to start looking better if the Terps keep winning. They are 6-2 w/ a loss to ranked WVU and a close loss to ranked GT (who is now looking like the class of the ACC). They could be ranked tomorrow.