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Anthony
11-01-2006, 11:25 PM
i'm just sickened at once again the horrible acts of cruelty we as humans will do to our young or defenseless. i'm running out of things to say re: these attrocities. my hope for a better tomorrow diminishes with each passing year.

Dad gets 10 years in first female circumcision trial in U.S. (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/11/01/female.circumcision.ap/index.html)

LAWRENCEVILLE, Georgia (AP) -- An Ethiopian immigrant was convicted Wednesday of the genital mutilation of his 2-year-old daughter and was sentenced to 10 years in prison in what was believed to be the first such criminal case in the United States.

Khalid Adem, 30, was found guilty of aggravated battery and cruelty to children. Prosecutors said he used scissors to remove his daughter's clitoris in his family's Atlanta-area apartment in 2001. The child's mother, Fortunate Adem, said she did not discover it until more than a year later.

Adem, who had no criminal record, could have been sentenced to up to 40 years in prison. He held his face in his hands and wept loudly after the jury's verdict was read.

During her father's trial, the girl, now 7, clutched a teddy bear as she testified on videotape that her father "cut me on my private part."

Federal law specifically bans the practice of genital mutilation, but many states do not have a law addressing it. Georgia lawmakers, with the support of the girl's mother, passed an anti-mutilation law last year. But Adem was not tried under that law since it did not exist when his daughter was cut.

During the trial, Adem testified he never circumcised his daughter or asked anyone else to do so. He said he grew up in Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia, and considers the practice more prevalent in rural areas.

Adem's attorney acknowledged that the girl had been cut, but implied that the family of the girl's mother, who immigrated from South Africa, may have been responsible.

The Adems divorced three years ago, and attorney Mark Hill suggested that the couple's daughter was coached to testify against her father by her mother, who has full custody of the child.

Adem, who cried throughout the trial and during his testimony, was asked what he thought of someone who believes in the practice. He replied: "The word I can say is 'mind in the gutter.' He is a moron."

The practice crosses ethnic and cultural lines and is not tied to a particular religion. Activists say it is intended to deny women sexual pleasure. In its most extreme form, the clitoris and parts of the labia are removed and the labia that remain are stitched together.

Since 2001, the State Department estimates that up to 130 million women worldwide have undergone circumcision.

Knives, razors or even sharp stones are usually used, according to a 2001 department report. The tools are frequently not sterilized, and often, many girls are circumcised at the same ceremony, leading to infection.

It is unknown how many girls have died from the procedure, either during the cutting or from infections, or years later in childbirth. Nightmares, depression, shock and feelings of betrayal are common psychological side effects, according to a 2001 federal report.

SackAttack
11-01-2006, 11:29 PM
ow ow ow.

SCISSORS?

OW.

bulletsponge
11-02-2006, 06:55 AM
wtf is wrong with him? for his punishment he should have his johnson cut off with scissors. real rusty and dull scissors so its more of a hacking cutting motion than a slicing motion

JediKooter
11-02-2006, 10:47 AM
Not trying to make my post political, but, this is what happens (in my opinion) when immigrants come to America and do not assimilate and learn the language and try to adjust to American society. They come over here and think it's status quo and do something like this and then wonder why they are getting pounded in the tail pipe because he is now someones bitch.

Crim
11-02-2006, 07:54 PM
Sickening. Not just this guy, but the fact that it is so prevalent in the world. Baffling and infuriating.

Klinglerware
11-02-2006, 08:23 PM
Yes, the practice of clitoridectomy is abhorrent in our culture, but something doesn't seem quite right in this case:


LAWRENCEVILLE, Georgia (AP) -- An Ethiopian immigrant was convicted Wednesday of the genital mutilation of his 2-year-old daughter and was sentenced to 10 years in prison in what was believed to be the first such criminal case in the United States.

Khalid Adem, 30, was found guilty of aggravated battery and cruelty to children. Prosecutors said he used scissors to remove his daughter's clitoris in his family's Atlanta-area apartment in 2001. The child's mother, Fortunate Adem, said she did not discover it until more than a year later.

Adem, who had no criminal record, could have been sentenced to up to 40 years in prison. He held his face in his hands and wept loudly after the jury's verdict was read.

During her father's trial, the girl, now 7, clutched a teddy bear as she testified on videotape that her father "cut me on my private part."

Federal law specifically bans the practice of genital mutilation, but many states do not have a law addressing it. Georgia lawmakers, with the support of the girl's mother, passed an anti-mutilation law last year. But Adem was not tried under that law since it did not exist when his daughter was cut.

During the trial, Adem testified he never circumcised his daughter or asked anyone else to do so. He said he grew up in Addis Ababa, the capital of Ethiopia, and considers the practice more prevalent in rural areas.

Adem's attorney acknowledged that the girl had been cut, but implied that the family of the girl's mother, who immigrated from South Africa, may have been responsible.

The Adems divorced three years ago, and attorney Mark Hill suggested that the couple's daughter was coached to testify against her father by her mother, who has full custody of the child.

Adem, who cried throughout the trial and during his testimony, was asked what he thought of someone who believes in the practice. He replied: "The word I can say is 'mind in the gutter.' He is a moron."

The practice crosses ethnic and cultural lines and is not tied to a particular religion. Activists say it is intended to deny women sexual pleasure. In its most extreme form, the clitoris and parts of the labia are removed and the labia that remain are stitched together.

Since 2001, the State Department estimates that up to 130 million women worldwide have undergone circumcision.

Knives, razors or even sharp stones are usually used, according to a 2001 department report. The tools are frequently not sterilized, and often, many girls are circumcised at the same ceremony, leading to infection.

It is unknown how many girls have died from the procedure, either during the cutting or from infections, or years later in childbirth. Nightmares, depression, shock and feelings of betrayal are common psychological side effects, according to a 2001 federal report.

ISiddiqui
11-02-2006, 08:34 PM
I was thinking that as well when I first read the story. And the guy seems SOOOO adament against clitoral circumcision (and not just simply to avoid jail time) that some seems strange here. Almost like a 'get back' at the husband ploy.

Anthony
11-02-2006, 08:52 PM
my disgust lies not so much w/ whether her father allegedly did it or not, moreso that it was done to a 2 year old girl. i thought these things, as dispicable as they may be, were done to girls somewhere near their early puberty years. not that it makes it any better.

i don't know why i get so angered at these things, normally i have an out of sight - out of mind approach to the world. i guess these types of acts are my weak spot.

MizzouRah
11-02-2006, 10:16 PM
wtf is wrong with him? for his punishment he should have his johnson cut off with scissors. real rusty and dull scissors so its more of a hacking cutting motion than a slicing motion

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Joe Canadian
11-02-2006, 10:54 PM
wtf is wrong with him? for his punishment he should have his johnson cut off with scissors. real rusty and dull scissors so its more of a hacking cutting motion than a slicing motion

Yes, because this solves everything... :rolleyes:

seminc
11-03-2006, 01:10 AM
My question is how can a 7 year old girl remember what happened when she was two. I understand the horror of this tragedy but something is not right here....