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Chief Rum

11-09-2006, 12:01 AM

Fouts

11-09-2006, 02:37 AM

Hey Lakers fans,

Here's some salt for that wound.

It's been a nice fantasy week for you guys, thinking Bynum has arrived and that Odom was going to keep averaging 25 ppg-plus when Kobe came back, but isn't about time to recognize you're still the second best team in the arena?

:D

This is funny. I like the Clippers, but until they do something in the post-season, its hard to take them seriously. They will be the red headed stepchild for a long time.

SackAttack

11-09-2006, 02:45 AM

Nearly making the NBA Finals wasn't good enough last year to qualify as 'doing something'?

Fouts

11-09-2006, 02:46 AM

Nearly making the NBA Finals wasn't good enough last year to qualify as 'doing something'?

Nope.

SackAttack

11-09-2006, 02:49 AM

Good luck winning 50 with that gimpy knee, Fouts.

But let me guess, the fact that the Lakers have managed to do less than the Clippers since Shaq left is irrelevant, right?

Fouts

11-09-2006, 02:52 AM

Los Angeles Lakers (NBA, 1961-2006) - 9 Championships and 42 Playoff Appearances

Los Angeles Clippers (NBA, 1985-2006) - 4 Playoff Appearances

The Clippers have a long road ahead. Lets refresh this thread in 10+ years.

Chief Rum

11-09-2006, 08:05 AM

The Clippers have a long road ahead. Lets refresh this thread in 10+ years.

Y'all can try and push it off all you want. Fact is, three years running now, we're the better team. So nyah-nyah. And, P.S., get used to it. ;)

We have done more in the playoffs more recently than the purple & gold.

Followers of fallen franchises with nothing else to go on speak of their history and tradition. Winners speak of the here and now. Welcome to a what have you done for me lately world.

stevew

11-09-2006, 08:10 AM

The clippers have a good squad, and if Livingston reaches a high level, i see no reason why they can't contend for the title for the next 3-5 years, before Brand gets too old. Other than the fact that they are the clippers, of course.

Fouts

11-09-2006, 08:12 AM

Y'all can try and push it off all you want. Fact is, three years running now, we're the better team. So nyah-nyah. And, P.S., get used to it. ;)

We have done more in the playoffs more recently than the purple & gold.

Followers of fallen franchises with nothing else to go on speak of their history and tradition. Winners speak of the here and now. Welcome to a what have you done for me lately world.

You don't get it. Making the NBA finals is what its all about. Otherwise, its a losing season. By those standards, the clippers have always been losers.

Are you thinking the clippers are going to the NBA finals this year? Or even in the next 10 years?

jbmagic

11-09-2006, 08:33 AM

The Lakers will end with the better record than the Clippers this season.

Last season, Clippers only manange to be two games better than us in the standing.

heybrad

11-09-2006, 10:08 AM

Followers of fallen franchises with nothing else to go on speak of their history and tradition. Winners speak of the here and now. Welcome to a what have you done for me lately world.
Losers pound their chest over their few moments of glory even though they are clearly few and far between.

The Clippers got eliminated in the 2nd round last year. YEA, GO TEAM! WE RULE!

What's more likely to happen? The Clippers win a title with Donald Sterling as their owner or he somehow fucks up his current roster as he always seems to do.

The Lakers stay down for an extended period of time or they are contending for a title in a few years like they always seem to do.

albionmoonlight

11-09-2006, 10:19 AM

You don't get it. Making the NBA finals is what its all about.

I have no dog in this fight.

However, to me this seems like a very strange place to draw the line at "what its all about."

I can see saying that winning the NBA title is what it is all about. And I can see saying that making the playoffs is what it is all about.

I can't see why making (but not winning) the finals is some sort of special place.

John Galt

11-09-2006, 10:30 AM

The Lakers will end with the better record than the Clippers this season.

Last season, Clippers only manange to be two games better than us in the standing.

The Lakers did look much better in the preseason.

Oilers9911

11-09-2006, 12:53 PM

The Lakers will end with the better record than the Clippers this season.

Last season, Clippers only manange to be two games better than us in the standing.

jbmagic says lakers will good this year. lakers will now be in shitter. win 25 games.

rkmsuf

11-09-2006, 12:54 PM

predicition:

kobe bryant is sacked at least 4 times next game

Eaglesfan27

11-09-2006, 12:55 PM

The Lakers did look much better in the preseason.

:D

Karlifornia

11-09-2006, 12:55 PM

I like how Clippers fans in this thread are saying things like "Fans of fallen franchises can only talk trash about the past, while winners can talk here and now."

When the Lakers were dominant in the 80's and early 2000's, did they even care about the Clippers? They didn't talk trash about the Clippers, because NOBODY CARED ABOUT THE CLIPPERS BESIDES BILLY CRYSTAL.

Oh, and by the way....it's an 82 game season. The Clippers have played 5 games. A lot can happen in 77 games. ACL's can tear, team chemistry can fall apart.....Let's wait a minute before planning the Clippers' championship parade.

SunDevil

11-09-2006, 12:57 PM

I have always wondered what it looks like from the outside looking in when us Red Sox fans are talking shit to Yankee fans. Besides the missing accents and give or take 200 million in payroll, I think I caught a glimpse.

::Grabs popcorn::

You may proceed. :D

Ksyrup

11-09-2006, 01:01 PM

I have no dog in this fight.

However, to me this seems like a very strange place to draw the line at "what its all about."

I can see saying that winning the NBA title is what it is all about. And I can see saying that making the playoffs is what it is all about.

I can't see why making (but not winning) the finals is some sort of special place.

In the context of this thread, I agree with this post.

However, I have to ask...what the hell does past history have to do with how good a team is or is not this year? For that matter, what do the teams' relative records a week into the season have to do with how good they may or may not be during this season?

At least the initial post had a :D . Fouts seems to be completely serious about his Yankee-like line of defense/reasoning.

Ksyrup

11-09-2006, 01:02 PM

heybrad

11-09-2006, 01:13 PM

At least the initial post had a :D . Fouts seems to be completely serious about his Yankee-like line of defense/reasoning.
:p

I'm going to add this in so that from this point forward, my posts should be taken in a happy context.

jbmagic

11-09-2006, 01:14 PM

I see the Lakers winning at least 50 games this season bearing no major injury to Kobe.

We have a young nucleus of players thats getting better. Also we have a deeper bench this year.

k0ruptr

11-09-2006, 01:57 PM

QB bryant looking good.

Pumpy Tudors

11-09-2006, 02:03 PM

The Celtics have 15 championships. We might as well crown their ass right now. Not even the Lakers can touch that. We'll see who's talking when Bill Russell wins the MVP again this season.

rkmsuf

11-09-2006, 02:08 PM

lamar odom no cause problems

stevew

11-09-2006, 02:16 PM

I see the Lakers winning at least 50 games this season bearing no major injury to Kobe.

We have a young nucleus of players thats getting better. Also we have a deeper bench this year.

This thread will go to epic proportions because of this post.

Personally I see the lakers as more of a 42-40 type of team.

jbmagic

11-09-2006, 02:18 PM

This thread will go to epic proportions because of this post.

Personally I see the lakers as more of a 42-40 type of team.

I Guess you don't really follow the Lakers much. They are deeper and much improve from last season and almost took the Suns down in the playoffs.

They won 47 games last year, no way they going to only win 40-42 games this season.

Ksyrup

11-09-2006, 02:20 PM

He follow Lakerss like you follow Raidr.

SunDevil

11-09-2006, 02:21 PM

I like it so much more when people do not quote Jbmagic's posts. That way the ignore feature on this forum actually works....

stevew

11-09-2006, 02:23 PM

I Guess you don't really follow the Lakers much. They are deeper and much improve from last season and almost took the Suns down in the playoffs.

They won 47 games last year, no way they going to only win 40-42 games this season.

Lets see, they added Radmanovic and a rookie PG? They are decent enough I suppose. Surely you don't expect Walton to average 15ppg the whole season? Kobe has knee problems, and that is enough for me to slightly downgrade the team. He may be fine, but no matter what, you won't win 50 games if he misses any serious stretch of games.

stevew

11-09-2006, 02:24 PM

I like it so much more when people do not quote Jbmagic's posts. That way the ignore feature on this forum actually works....

Sorry good point.

Then you miss out on the good ones though.

Pumpy Tudors

11-09-2006, 02:32 PM

smush parker have time to do his thing

50 wins easy

Ksyrup

11-09-2006, 02:43 PM

I like it so much more when people do not quote Jbmagic's posts. That way the ignore feature on this forum actually works....

Judging the contents of a post without reading it is like...oh, I don't know...judging a game's AI without playing the game. :p

SunDevil

11-09-2006, 02:46 PM

Judging the contents of a post without reading it is like...oh, I don't know...judging a game's AI without playing the game. :p

Touche. Point taken. But Jbmagic has worked so hard to get on my ignore list, that it would be shame to let him down now. :D

jbmagic

11-09-2006, 03:44 PM

Lets see, they added Radmanovic and a rookie PG? They are decent enough I suppose. Surely you don't expect Walton to average 15ppg the whole season? Kobe has knee problems, and that is enough for me to slightly downgrade the team. He may be fine, but no matter what, you won't win 50 games if he misses any serious stretch of games.

Bynum, Walton, Brown, Odom, Farmar, Cook, Radmanovic, Turiaf are all young players improving.

Radmanovic is getting over a hand injury. Kawame Brown improve near the end and I see him getting better when he comes back from injury too.

Like I said above If Kobe doesn't have a serious injury, I see the Lakers easy winning 50 games this season and improving on 47 wins from last year.

Kobe has a great young supporting cast this season.

rexallllsc

11-09-2006, 05:52 PM

What's more likely to happen? The Clippers win a title with Donald Sterling as their owner or he somehow fucks up his current roster as he always seems to do.

The Lakers stay down for an extended period of time or they are contending for a title in a few years like they always seem to do.

Well, they did give Kaman that 10.5 mil/year contract. OUCH.

MrBug708

11-09-2006, 06:10 PM

JB. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Fouts

11-09-2006, 06:35 PM

In the context of this thread, I agree with this post.

However, I have to ask...what the hell does past history have to do with how good a team is or is not this year? For that matter, what do the teams' relative records a week into the season have to do with how good they may or may not be during this season?

At least the initial post had a :D . Fouts seems to be completely serious about his Yankee-like line of defense/reasoning.

Just debating the topic, and not tearing down the people involved. You should try it out.

Fouts

11-09-2006, 06:49 PM

Chief Rum

11-09-2006, 09:50 PM

Stayed up too late last night, and it looks like I was making a case for best franchise.

As far as best team between the lakers and clippers, its too early to tell for this year. The last 2 years they were pretty even.

If by "pretty" you mean "worse than the Clippers", then yes, I agree. :D

Seriously, I bait because I love. The only fans more fun to bait around SoCal are loser Raiders fans who don't realize the team skedaddled 12 years ago.

Actually, the Lakers are my second favorite team in the NBA--a distant second, but still. Nothing would please me more than to see both squads do really well this year, and start to get a real rivalry going.

So keep that all in mind when I say this...

LAAAAAAKKKKKEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRSSSS SUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!! :p

MrBug708

11-09-2006, 10:01 PM

stevew

11-09-2006, 10:07 PM

Bynum, Walton, Brown, Odom, Farmar, Cook, Radmanovic, Turiaf are all young players improving.

Radmanovic is getting over a hand injury. Kawame Brown improve near the end and I see him getting better when he comes back from injury too.

Like I said above If Kobe doesn't have a serious injury, I see the Lakers easy winning 50 games this season and improving on 47 wins from last year.

Kobe has a great young supporting cast this season.

oh, okay, lakers looking good in preseason then.

young players give sg Kobe time to do his thing,

Chief Rum

11-09-2006, 10:24 PM

Keep in mind Chief. The Angels won a WS title a few years ago and there was this sudden Angel Renassiance. But the Dodgers go and break there own attendance record....

It's still a Lakers town and always will be.

Angels are breaking their own attendance records every year, too, you know. And they're doing it in a smaller stadium further away from the population center of the LA metro area.

And, BTW, the Lakers can have the darn town. I could care less. CLIIIIIIPPEEEEEERRS RUUUUUUUULLLLLLLEEEE!!

Chief Rum

11-09-2006, 10:27 PM

oh, okay, lakers looking good in preseason then.

young players give sg Kobe time to do his thing,

steve, you should have heard the talk radio around here. Lakers this, Lakers that. Bynum isn't just going to be great, he already is, and we won't trade him straight up for KG. Odom is finally going to be a superstar. Walton is going to keep averaging 13-15 points. Etc. Etc.

Honestly, it's sick. Lakers fans don't have a clue how they sound when they're gushing about their team. It does sound a lot like Red Sox fans, as someone kinda referred to earlier.

But, like I said, I like the Lakers and Kobe is one of my favorite players, so I can't argue too much. It's just really funny.

Oilers9911

11-09-2006, 10:50 PM

I see the Lakers winning at least 50 games this season bearing no major injury to Kobe.

Barring no injury or sexual assaults by Kobe. Kobe is a very talented player but I can't stand the prick.

stevew

11-09-2006, 10:52 PM

Barring no injury or sexual assaults by Kobe.

He's still out trying to find the "real rapists" and bring them to justice.

Danny

11-09-2006, 11:26 PM

This is like the fat kid picking on the captain of the football team because he did his first pushup.

Chief Rum

11-10-2006, 12:24 AM

This is like the fat kid picking on the captain of the football team because he did his first pushup.

No, it's more like the younger, more athletic less experienced kid picking on the cracked up old former captain of the football team who last played like a star three years ago--while his millions of starry-eyed fans watch on in abject horror and disbelief.

Neuqua

11-10-2006, 12:32 AM

Did someone hack into Chief's account?

MrBug708

11-10-2006, 05:15 AM

Barring no injury or sexual assaults by Kobe. Kobe is a very talented player but I can't stand the prick.

Kobe didn't miss any games the first time around did he? I think he'd only get smarter about it..:)

MrBug708

11-22-2006, 01:12 PM

*ahem*

Chief Rum

11-22-2006, 02:10 PM

*ahem*

I knew if anyone would bump this, you would. If it weren't for Kobe's amazing performance last night, you guys wouldn't have come close. But that's why he is a superstar. My guess is we'll regain first in the next couple games, and then come talk to me again when the floor underneath is blue and red and not purple and gold.

rexallllsc

11-22-2006, 02:30 PM

I knew if anyone would bump this, you would. If it weren't for Kobe's amazing performance last night, you guys wouldn't have come close. But that's why he is a superstar. My guess is we'll regain first in the next couple games, and then come talk to me again when the floor underneath is blue and red and not purple and gold.

...and if the Celtics didn't have Bird...

rexallllsc

11-22-2006, 02:34 PM

No, it's more like the younger, more athletic less experienced kid picking on the cracked up old former captain of the football team who last played like a star three years ago--while his millions of starry-eyed fans watch on in abject horror and disbelief.

Wait wait - the Clips finished 2 games ahead of the Lakers last year - and advanced to the second round before being eliminated by the same team that took out the Lakers.

As far as younger and less experienced: http://www.nba.com/news/survey_age_2006.html

Clippers: 10th Oldest
Lakers: 11th Youngest

Chief Rum

11-22-2006, 02:38 PM

Wait wait - the Clips finished 2 games ahead of the Lakers last year - and advanced to the second round before being eliminated by the same team that took out the Lakers.

As far as younger and less experienced: http://www.nba.com/news/survey_age_2006.html

Clippers: 10th Oldest
Lakers: 11th Youngest

Yeah, but our superstar is younger, and our future star Livingston is the same age as your future superstar Bynum (if you buy that either will be that). And besides, our numbers are skewed by Cassell.

Also, when you put it the way you have up there, it hides the fact you're only looking at about 8-9 spots difference on any team age ranking. As in Clippers 10th oldest, Lakers 18th oldest or something like that. Not exactly an old man versus a newborn, IMO.

rexallllsc

11-22-2006, 02:42 PM

Yeah, but our superstar is younger, and our future star Livingston is the same age as your future superstar Bynum (if you buy that either will be that). And besides, our numbers are skewed by Cassell.

Also, when you put it the way you have up there, it hides the fact you're only looking at about 8-9 spots difference on any team age ranking. As in Clippers 10th oldest, Lakers 18th oldest or something like that. Not exactly an old man versus a newborn, IMO.

I think you're referring to Brand & Bryant? Brand is 8 months younger, right? ;)

Livingston can be really good - I'm interested to see how he'll fit in. Bynum - I'm worried about his durability, but he has potential.

I understand that the #'s are skewed by Cassell, but it's not as if he's a schmuck on the end of the bench - the guy is a legit player - one that the Lakers certainly could use.

Not an old man vs. a newbown, but the Clippers aren't the young up and coming prize fighter - relatively speaking.

It's a good rivalry right now, that's for sure.

Chief Rum

11-22-2006, 02:44 PM

I think you're referring to Brand & Bryant? Brand is 8 months younger, right? ;)

Livingston can be really good - I'm interested to see how he'll fit in. Bynum - I'm worried about his durability, but he has potential.

I understand that the #'s are skewed by Cassell, but it's not as if he's a schmuck on the end of the bench - the guy is a legit player - one that the Lakers certainly could use.

Not an old man vs. a newbown, but the Clippers aren't the young up and coming prize fighter - relatively speaking.

It's a good rivalry right now, that's for sure.

Yup, that it is.

Just to put that previous quote (the you responded to) in context, it was more a comeback tied to a smackdown war in the previous posts. In other words, more points for poetry than accuracy. ;)

MrBug708

11-22-2006, 03:17 PM

WE'll trade you IRad for Cassell :)

Chief Rum

11-22-2006, 03:21 PM

WE'll trade you IRad for Cassell :)

lol...I'll bet.

Although it's a give and take with Sam. Last night is a perfect example. No one on the Lakers could really stop him. He was our answer to Kobe last night most of the game. But then you get to that stretch in the third where he stupidly got himself called for a T in the middle of a big Lakers run. And it wasn't a "new NBA rules" T--he was T'd for vehemently and continuously arguing--a Cassell special trait.

As a result, he is removed from the game and gets his head out of it a bit,a nd by the time Dunleavy feels he can put him back in, we have missed on more than a quarter of player from our best weapon last night (and also taking him out of his rhythm).

Kodos

11-22-2006, 03:24 PM

I support anything that upsets Lakers fans. Go JB! Work dat Magic!

Fouts

12-01-2006, 04:17 PM

Big game by Kobe last night. Looks like the Clippers plummeted to last place after this thread started.

rexallllsc

12-01-2006, 04:50 PM

Big game by Kobe last night. Looks like the Clippers plummeted to last place after this thread started.

Kobe put away the team with the best record in the NBA almost single-handedly. 9-9 shooting in the 3rd quarter. Good lawd.

Clippers are right at home down there in the cellar.

MrBug708

12-02-2006, 12:23 PM

I dont think Livingston will ever be a superstar

stevew

12-03-2006, 03:35 PM

clippers looking good in preseason.

stevew

01-29-2007, 11:48 PM

Clippers still looking good in preseason.

stevew

02-27-2007, 10:42 PM

warning, this is probably one of the top 10 grossest sports injuries ever

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And there goes the season

MikeVic

02-27-2007, 10:48 PM

Eww...

Groundhog

02-27-2007, 11:00 PM

Wow, that is awful.

miami_fan

02-28-2007, 05:41 AM

tanglewood

02-28-2007, 06:09 AM

Easily the worst I've ever seen. David Busst in 1996.

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http://www.360soccer.com/images/bussted.jpg

He had to have 26 operations on it before retiring without ever playing again.

st.cronin

02-28-2007, 08:36 AM

I don't remember all the specifics of Daunte Culpepper's injury but this is scary. Tears in the ACL, PCL, MCL,and lateral meniscus. Plus he dislocated the patella and tibia-femoral. That, my friends, is what you call shredded.

I had the exact same injury on a ski slope a few years ago. Today, with rehab complete, I can't jog without pain.

Pumpy Tudors

02-28-2007, 09:18 AM

Ehhh, I really don't think that huge inline picture of the Busst injury is necessary.

MrBug708

04-23-2007, 10:29 AM

Chief, just wondering if you forgot about this thread? :)

I think this is Karma for your owner being so cheap. No playoff revenue for you!

Chief Rum

04-23-2007, 12:25 PM

Chief, just wondering if you forgot about this thread? :)

I think this is Karma for your owner being so cheap. No playoff revenue for you!

Bug, start paying attention to contemporary sports. This isn't 2003. Or didn't you notice the huge extension Kaman got? Or the big money Magette, Brand, Mobley, Thomas and Cassell are being paid. Or that the Clips are actually over the salary cap now. Or that they just broke ground on a state-of-the-art practice facililty in El Segundo. And they signed their coach to a huge extension.

Sterling's no spendthrift, but the wallets have opened up quite a but more. Cheap isn't what I would describe him as now. In fact, from what I can tell, it's your boy Buss who is being cheap. His antsiness with the luxury cap has thrown your team into semi-permanent mediocrity.

Enjoy your five game stay in the playoffs.

primelord

04-23-2007, 12:29 PM

Bug, start paying attention to contemporary sports. This isn't 2003. Or didn't you notice the huge extension Kaman got? Or the big money Magette, Brand, Mobley, Thomas and Cassell are being paid. Or that the Clips are actually over the salary cap now. Or that they just broke ground on a state-of-the-art practice facililty in El Segundo. And they signed their coach to a huge extension.

Sterling's no spendthrift, but the wallets have opened up quite a but more. Cheap isn't what I would describe him as now. In fact, from what I can tell, it's your boy Buss who is being cheap. His antsiness with the luxury cap has thrown your team into semi-permanent mediocrity.

Enjoy your five game stay in the playoffs.

So to be clear. Your point is they still suck despite the fact they have started spending money.

MrBug708

04-23-2007, 03:30 PM

Bug, start paying attention to contemporary sports. This isn't 2003. Or didn't you notice the huge extension Kaman got? Or the big money Magette, Brand, Mobley, Thomas and Cassell are being paid. Or that the Clips are actually over the salary cap now. Or that they just broke ground on a state-of-the-art practice facililty in El Segundo. And they signed their coach to a huge extension.

Sterling's no spendthrift, but the wallets have opened up quite a but more. Cheap isn't what I would describe him as now. In fact, from what I can tell, it's your boy Buss who is being cheap. His antsiness with the luxury cap has thrown your team into semi-permanent mediocrity.

Enjoy your five game stay in the playoffs.

I know CHief, Donald finally has a team more talented then the Lakers and how does Karma repay him?

By letting him sit at home like he used to :)