College Football Week 11 thread (spoilers inside)

[Swaggs]

Stafford looked pretty solid on that last drive.

[Ben E Lou]

DAWG BLESS YOU, TRA BATTLE!!!!!!




Ditto!!!! Three picks in the first half now, one returned for a TD, and another returned to the war chicken 20. In a season where we suck, there's NOBODY I'd rather beat than Auburn. I cannot tell you how much I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate them.

[st.cronin]

Anybody know the active leaders in qb wins? #1 is sorta obvious, #2 not so much.

[kingfc22]

Go Georgia. Cal will inch even closer to the #2 spot in the BCS.

[Swaggs]

Anybody know the active leaders in qb wins? #1 is sorta obvious, #2 not so much.

I don't know who #1 is even... so it isn't that obvious. :)

I just heard that Stocco had started 35 straight before this game, so he could be one. Maybe JaMarcus Russell is the other?

[st.cronin]

I don't know who #1 is even... so it isn't that obvious. :)

I just heard that Stocco had started 35 straight before this game, so he could be one. Maybe JaMarcus Russell is the other?

#1 is Jared Zabransky
#2 is John Stocco, yes

edit - what's really amazing about this is that, as many Badger fans suspected, he has been at best the second best qb on the roster.

Tyler Donovan, through three quarters, in his first start: 14/18 202 yards, 9 rushes for 54 yards. He has looked GREAT.

[VPI97]

I'm a wac fan, and CLEARLY Louisville, Rutgers, WV, Cinci, South Florida are better then most the ACC. this is sad.
I'm pretty sure this quote qualifies you as being a moron. Whether deserved or now, the ACC has had eight teams ranked in the top 25 at some point this season. Is it my fault that people on this board fail to acknowledge that fact? Everyone just wants to look at the padded rankings of the Big East's top three and declare them a real conference due to the fact that none of those three played any top 25 teams prior to November. Half the ACC would have been undefeated with WVU's schedule.

[st.cronin]

I'm pretty sure this quote qualifies you as being a moron. Whether deserved or now, the ACC has had eight teams ranked in the top 25 at some point this season. Is it my fault that people on this board fail to acknowledge that fact? Everyone just wants to look at the padded rankings of the Big East's top three and declare them a real conference due to the fact that none of those three played any top 25 teams prior to November. Half the ACC would have been undefeated with WVU's schedule.

Which half of the ACC has beaten Maryland? The only morons in this thread are the ones touting the ACC's greatness, like YOU. Face it, the ACC sucks this year.

[Swaggs]

I'm pretty sure this quote qualifies you as being a moron. Whether deserved or now, the ACC has had eight teams ranked in the top 25 at some point this season. Is it my fault that people on this board fail to acknowledge that fact? Everyone just wants to look at the padded rankings of the Big East's top three and declare them a real conference due to the fact that none of those three played any top 25 teams prior to November. Half the ACC would have been undefeated with WVU's schedule.

WVU beat Maryland by 28 points. Maryland has already beaten Virginia, NC State, Florida State, and Clemson. They don't play UNC or Duke but even you must admit that those teams are very bad this year, so there are half of your ACC teams right there that would not have gotten through WVU's OOC schedule.

You are a jaded ACC and VT fan. VT is better off in the long run in the ACC, but you seriously need to get over the Big East slamming. In most years, the ACC will be better than the Big East, but with Miami and Florida State having terrible seasons, this is not one of them.

[VPI97]

Which half of the ACC has beaten Maryland? The only morons in this thread are the ones touting the ACC's greatness, like YOU. Face it, the ACC sucks this year.
You're using Maryland as a basis for your argument? Hah. Try that at the end of the year when they've lost their last three of the season to better conference teams. They'll lose to both BC and Wake and I would be surprised if they can beat Miami today. Using the Terps as a foundation for your insults is pitiful and it shows your lack of knowledge.

[st.cronin]

You're using Maryland as a basis for your argument? Hah. Try that at the end of the year when they've lost their last three of the season to better conference teams. They'll lose to both BC and Wake and I would be surprised if they can beat Miami today. Using the Terps as a foundation for your insults is pitiful and it shows your lack of knowledge.

Considering your long history of incredibly stupid college football commentary on this board, I'm delighted to be called ignorant by you. I take it as a compliment!

[VPI97]

You are a jaded ACC and VT fan. VT is better off in the long run in the ACC, but you seriously need to get over the Big East slamming. In most years, the ACC will be better than the Big East, but with Miami and Florida State having terrible seasons, this is not one of them.
heh...the Big East 'slamming' is only a result of moronic people (not you) who have either claimed that the Big East is the best conference in the country or state the the top five teams in that conference would be ACC champions. What is humorous to me is that this is the second season of Louisville and WVU becoming consistant top 25 teams...and the first year Rutgers can say that. You'd think that the guys espousing their dominance would hold off on such statements until the conference can put together 3-4 years of something better than the mediocrity the Big East is known for before trying to put themselves into the top echelon of college football. Big East fans are like kids who just got a shiny new toy for Christmas and can't stop bragging about it to all their schoolmates. Never mind the fact that it took 10 straight bowl games for VT to get mentioned in pre-season top 10 discussions, you've got your new toy and everyone's got to know about it.

Considering your long history of incredibly stupid college football commentary on this board, I'm delighted to be called ignorant by you. I take it as a compliment!
Sweet!

[Swaggs]

Looks like WVU shook off the Louisville hangover. They lead Cincy, 42-10, going into the fourth.

Slaton and White are done for the day.

[WVUFAN]

heh...the Big East 'slamming' is only a result of moronic people (not you) who have either claimed that the Big East is the best conference in the country or state the the top five teams in that conference would be ACC champions. What is humorous to me is that this is the second season of Louisville and WVU becoming consistant top 25 teams...and the first year Rutgers can say that. You'd think that the guys espousing their dominance would hold off on such statements until the conference can put together 3-4 years of something better than the mediocrity the Big East is known for before trying to put themselves into the top echelon of college football. Big East fans are like kids who just got a shiny new toy for Christmas and can't stop bragging about it to all their schoolmates. Never mind the fact that it took 10 straight bowl games for VT to get mentioned in pre-season top 10 discussions, you've got your new toy and everyone's got to know about it.


You're a moron. Really. It doesn't matter what kind of facts are presented to you, you're so full of venom for WVU (who has been a perennial Top 25 team since ... oh, 1980) and for the Big East it's making you look foolish.

Oh, and by the way, WVU, Louisville or Rutgers WOULD be the ACC Champions. Easily.

[Julio Riddols]

My tally, as if it will make a dent in this seemingly impenetrable wall-

ACC: 8 or 9 good teams, the rest are bad.

Big East: 2 elite teams, 1 very good team, 1 good team, and the rest are bad.

I'd say on an everage, looking at the per capita strength of each conference, they are equal. Considering the potential of either conference to produce a serious BCS contender, the Big East has a much greater potential for that this season, so I say the Big East is fairly obviously the more successful (and better) conference this season.

I can't really get a feel for what you could possibly say to back up your claim as at least being reasonable, VPI. Why are you so dead set on proving this when your argument doesn't even seem close to an unbiased observer who couldn't give two shits about the Big East or the ACC?

[st.cronin]

I feel quite confident claiming that PITTSBURGH would likely go undefeated in the ACC this year.

[Joe]

lol

[ntndeacon]

In most years, the ACC will be better than the Big East, but with Miami and Florida State having terrible seasons, this is not one of them.

There was more to the above post than this, but iwant to address this. This has been something Ihave heard for a while now. (not just in here but elsewhere) A part of the "badness" of the ACC in football this year is directly tied to these two programs. The ACC doesn't really have a rallying point ... a top 10 school . I think the main reason for us not having a "top team" is that people are slow to see the changes in power in a conference. (Rutgers is a good example too an undefeated 15th ranked team)

[VPI97]

I can't really get a feel for what you could possibly say to back up your claim as at least being reasonable, VPI. Why are you so dead set on proving this when your argument doesn't even seem close to an unbiased observer who couldn't give two shits about the Big East or the ACC?
...and what exactly do you think I'm claiming? I'm basically saying the same thing you are. The only difference is that while you list two teams as being elite in the big East, I would put them in the very good category by virtue of their records against top 25 competition...WVU is 1-1, L'ville is 1-1 and Rutgers is 1-0 against teams that have seen the top 25. Those aren't exactly eye-popping numbers, are they? On the flip side you have teams in the ACC who have multiple losses, but all of those are against top 25 competition. The only differnce I see between the teams at the top of both conferences is that the ACC teams have played more games against top 25 teams. That's why you see ACC teams with 2 losses and Big East teams with just one loss.

[ntndeacon]

Looks like WVU shook off the Louisville hangover. They lead Cincy, 42-10, going into the fourth.

Slaton and White are done for the day.

I have a feeling that Louisville's next opponent will have a hangover like Cincy.

[ntndeacon]

I feel quite confident claiming that PITTSBURGH would likely go undefeated in the ACC this year.

Ok. This is just ridiculous. Undefeated? I doubt this very much. If I had to give a range for Pittsburgh it would be 6-2 to 3-5. 6-2 would happen if they had a favorable schedule and have a few breaks. those breaks could easily go the other way.

[st.cronin]

Huge 3rd and 10 for Iowa here ...

[st.cronin]

Ok. This is just ridiculous. Undefeated? I doubt this very much. If I had to give a range for Pittsburgh it would be 6-2 to 3-5. 6-2 would happen if they had a favorable schedule and have a few breaks. those breaks could easily go the other way.

Yeah, you're right. That was probably hyperbole. I think they would be one of the better teams in the ACC.

[WVUFAN]

That's why you see ACC teams with 2 losses and Big East teams with just one loss.

No, it's because the Big East teams this year are much, MUCH BETTER than the ACC teams.

I honestly don't understand how someone can sit there and say that any of the ACC teams are better than WVU, Louisville or Rutgers.

Is it because people across the nation, as proven by the recent ratings of the last two Thursday night games, care and enjoy Big East games, whereas no one gives a damn if Virginia Tech wins or loses this year.

Again, jealousy is the key to most of VPI's postings.

[k0ruptr]

Georgia Tech just escaped against UNC by a score of 7-0

[st.cronin]

Huge 3rd and 10 for Iowa here ...

And now a huge 4th and 7, basically for the ball game.

[Neuqua]

Illinois has put together what I may say is the worst half of play I have ever seen. Purdue is completely rolling over them now.

[Ben E Lou]

Years from now, the football world will look back upon November 11th, 2006 as the day that Matthew Stafford arrived. Write it down.

[k0ruptr]

Word.

[Swaggs]

There was more to the above post than this, but iwant to address this. This has been something Ihave heard for a while now. (not just in here but elsewhere) A part of the "badness" of the ACC in football this year is directly tied to these two programs. The ACC doesn't really have a rallying point ... a top 10 school . I think the main reason for us not having a "top team" is that people are slow to see the changes in power in a conference. (Rutgers is a good example too an undefeated 15th ranked team)

I agree with you, to a point. Name recognition and, related to that, initial rankings in the polls, are huge in the national rankings. Think about this: If any of those five ranked ACC teams were undefeated, which would be in the hunt for the national title ahead of the many one-loss teams?

Based on their prestige and OOC records, I would guess only Virginia Tech and, maybe, Georgia Tech (and only GT because they would have a win over a "name" team in Notre Dame) would rank ahead of one-loss Texas, Florida, USC, Notre Dame, or Michigan/Ohio State.

A big part of the advantage that the ACC has over the Big East is in perception, in that, regardless of their current teams, Miami, Florida State, and nowadays VT, based on their past performance, will usually get the benefit of the doubt on how good they are until they prove they are not very good. The Big East "elite" and teams like Wake Forest, Boston College, and Maryland have to prove they are good. Hopefully (at least for me), if the Big East continues to do well, West Virginia and others will be granted a little bit of leeway that they are legitimately good.

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ROFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Swaggs]

Years from now, the football world will look back upon November 11th, 2006 as the day that Matthew Stafford arrived. Write it down.

He is looking like Brett Favre (the peak years) today.

[Craptacular]

Well, even though they didn't beat any really good teams, the Badgers shocked me by going 7-1 in conference. I predicted 4-4, plus one OOC loss for a 7-5 record. Now they'll tie for second in conference and likely play in the Cap 1 Bowl again.

[st.cronin]

Well, even though they didn't beat any really good teams, the Badgers shocked me by going 7-1 in conference. I predicted 4-4, plus one OOC loss for a 7-5 record. Now they'll tie for second in conference and likely play in the Cap 1 Bowl again.

They had a great year, and look very well set up for a good run next year, with Donovan and Hill in the backfield.

[Craptacular]

The best news is that if Auburn loses, there won't be a UW - Auburn rematch. I'd like to see the Badgers play Florida, LSU, Arkansas or Tennessee.

[Swaggs]

The best news is that if Auburn loses, there won't be a UW - Auburn rematch. I'd like to see the Badgers play Florida, LSU, Arkansas or Tennessee.

I think that is more of a matter of when, not if... :)

[Ben E Lou]

I think that is more of a matter of when, not if... :)War Damn Chikken!

[Ben E Lou]

The War Chikken maintenance staff is now getting the hoses ready. :D

[Swaggs]

So, how far does Auburn drop? Are they still in BCS at-large range?

[timmynausea]

Stafford did look awesome today.

[Swaggs]

timmy, did you hear what the status is on Schmitt? They cut the game on ESPN2 to go to the UNC-GT game here. :(

I heard he left the game, but I'm out of radio range.

[Ben E Lou]

I haven't been this happy over a football win since....since...well, since Tucker beat Marist earlier this year in another huge upset. :D

But still, this was SO much fun. I hate Auburn WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more than I hate Marist. The fact that we suck this year only makes this one that much sweeter. If we went 1-11, I'd want the one win to be over those punks. Dawg how I hate Auburn.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAWGS!!! SIC 'EM!!! WOOF WOOF WOOF!

[vtbub]

So, how far does Auburn drop? Are they still in BCS at-large range?


Only if Arkansas collapses.

[cartman]

Auburn didn't do Texas any favors today. I'm a big fan of the Ole' Ball Coach, at least for the next few hours. :)

[timmynausea]

timmy, did you hear what the status is on Schmitt? They cut the game on ESPN2 to go to the UNC-GT game here. :(

I heard he left the game, but I'm out of radio range.

They cut away for us, too, and I'm in Michigan so no radio for me, either. Was he out there in the third quarter? I did notice he was limping a little bit after he pulled that Leonard leap in the first half.

[-Mojo Jojo-]

#1 is Jared Zabransky
#2 is John Stocco, yes

edit - what's really amazing about this is that, as many Badger fans suspected, he has been at best the second best qb on the roster.

Tyler Donovan, through three quarters, in his first start: 14/18 202 yards, 9 rushes for 54 yards. He has looked GREAT.

I didn't realize there was still so much hostility towards Stocco. He's done a bang-up job this year. I'd probably only rate him behind Bollinger among Badger QB's in the Alvarez-and-after era. I have to say today's game has made me feel a lot better about next year after Donovan's disastrous appearance in the Western Michigan game. We'll have 9 offensive starters back. If Donovan plays anything like he did today, they'll do some damage.

[Craptacular]

So, how far does Auburn drop? Are they still in BCS at-large range?

I think they'd still be in the range, but the bigger problem for them is the limit of two teams from one conference in the BCS. Obviously, there are a lot of games to be played, but Florida, Arkansas, Tennessee, and LSU are all still in the BCS running as well. The BCS bowls can take anyone in the top 14, which Auburn certainly will be in if they beat Alabama. However, if LSU or Tennessee run the table, or if Florida and Arkansas run the table until the SEC title game, would one of those bowls choose Auburn over LSU, Tenn or the SEC loser?

[st.cronin]

I didn't realize there was still so much hostility towards Stocco. He's done a bang-up job this year. I'd probably only rate him behind Bollinger among Badger QB's in the Alvarez-and-after era. I have to say today's game has made me feel a lot better about next year after Donovan's disastrous appearance in the Western Michigan game. We'll have 9 offensive starters back. If Donovan plays anything like he did today, they'll do some damage.

I don't remember the Western Michigan game, but every time I've seen Donovan play he's looked really quick, in terms of his feet, release, and making decisions.

I like Stocco, and his development has certainly been surprising and enjoyable, but you have to admit he's pretty maddening to watch when he's not at his best.

edit - I put Stocco 1st in the Alvarez era, but that's not really saying much.

[larrymcg421]

Is it possible to fire Larry Coker in the middle of the game?

[cartman]

After (another on the season) Florida FG miss, South Carolina marches down the field to take a 7-0 lead.

[kingfc22]

You're using Maryland as a basis for your argument? Hah. Try that at the end of the year when they've lost their last three of the season to better conference teams. They'll lose to both BC and Wake and I would be surprised if they can beat Miami today. Using the Terps as a foundation for your insults is pitiful and it shows your lack of knowledge.


Tell that to Miami.

[kingfc22]

Come on South Carolina.

[cartman]

It appears that the last week of practices for Ohio State and Michigan were not pleasant experiences, and they are taking it out on Northwestern and Indiana.

[robbgmaier3]

I never thought I would be routing for steve spurrier.....things that make you go....bleghhh

[robbgmaier3]

damn that sucked

[robbgmaier3]

might not even have been a good call....damnit

[-Mojo Jojo-]

I don't remember the Western Michigan game, but every time I've seen Donovan play he's looked really quick, in terms of his feet, release, and making decisions.

It went something like this (don't recall the exact order of plays):

Sack
Interception returned for a TD
Incompletion
Sack
Incompletion


edit - I put Stocco 1st in the Alvarez era, but that's not really saying much.

True enough. I'm just saying, he's no Mike Samuels :p

[timmynausea]

Va. Tech hangs half a dozen on Kent State in the first half.

[GrantDawg]

Ditto!!!! Three picks in the first half now, one returned for a TD, and another returned to the war chicken 20. In a season where we suck, there's NOBODY I'd rather beat than Auburn. I cannot tell you how much I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate them.


I always find this funny, because of all the rivals the Dawgs have the one I respect, even like, the most is Auburn. Doesn't make this win less sweet. Nice win for the boys. I just hope this set them up to put a hurting on them Jackets. I think Vandy and Kentucky will be forgotten if UGA wins out.

[Celeval]

If Miami were in the Big East this year, I think they'd finish about 5th. The top 3 teams in the Big East are better than any team in the ACC, I think this is unquestionable.

Um.. you realize Miami is 8th in the ACC right now. So if they'd finish 5th in the Big East, that actually means the ACC is tougher. Just sayin'.

[Ben E Lou]

I always find this funny, because of all the rivals the Dawgs have the one I respect, even like, the most is Auburn.If you had grown up in Columbus, you'd understand. Trust me. Those people are EVERYWHERE in Columbus, and unfathomably obnoxious.

[ntndeacon]

If you had grown up in Columbus, you'd understand. Trust me. Those people are EVERYWHERE in Columbus, and unfathomably obnoxious.

Columbus does seem to have it share of Auburn fans. When ihad to visit there as a child, I did not have to see that seemier side of Columbus :D

[larrymcg421]

Very bad injury for Maryland player.

[Ben E Lou]

Columbus does seem to have it share of Auburn fans. When ihad to visit there as a child, I did not have to see that seemier side of Columbus :DColumbus is the closest decent-sized city to Auburn, a little closer than Montgomery (which, I've heard, is a hell-hole if you're not from there), and quite a bit closer than Birmingham. Combine that with AFLAC and Synovus/CB&T being headquartered there, and you get a buttload of 'em moving there after graduation.

EDIT: It's close enough that a fair number of their undergrads live in Auburn during the summer, and work in Columbus.

[General Mike]

Come on South Carolina.

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[General Mike]

Huge drop by Arizona's TE against Cal just now. Would have been 6 if he had caught it.

[GrantDawg]

If you had grown up in Columbus, you'd understand. Trust me. Those people are EVERYWHERE in Columbus, and unfathomably obnoxious.


Yeah, I get the reasons you have. It is just my experience with Auburn fans (in laws, including one on the board there), they just don't even come close to the pain in the butt the average Florida, Tennessee, or South Carolina fan are. I would add Techies, but they are so few of them they are just a minor nuisance. Like gnats.

[Craptacular]

Arizona INT return for a TD to put them up 24-17.

[General Mike]

TD South Carolina, but the XP is blocked.

[Craptacular]

Wow, Cal has a wide open receiver who catches it but stumbles and falls at the 1. Arizona goal line stand holds them to a FG.

[k0ruptr]

Don't look now but Stanford is about to get there first win of the season against Washington.

[k0ruptr]

7-0 San Jose St. over Boise St. early in the 2nd quarter

[robbgmaier3]

uh....let's go ol' ball coach (vomits)

[Balldog]

Could at least 4 one loss teams lose this weekend?

[robbgmaier3]

please tell me someone solved the FG block problem

[cartman]

Here comes the ball game in Florida...

[robbgmaier3]

might be 7pm before the FG, what with the commercials

[Craptacular]

Florida survives the ol' ball coach.

[k0ruptr]

wow. Cal just got a huge clutch TD

[cartman]

FG Blocked. Florida escapes with the victory.

[robbgmaier3]

sigh....jesus somebody hire a damn special teams coach down there

[k0ruptr]

lucky asses florida.

[bronconick]

Bah.

[Craptacular]

Same dude blocked both the XP and FG.

[robbgmaier3]

ha, CONN just took a touchdown lead against Pitt in OT

[cartman]

Just flipped over to see Nebraska score with 20 seconds left to take the lead 28-27 in College Station.

[Mike1409]

OH MY!!!!!!!!!! GATORS HOLD ON!!!!

[Craptacular]

wow. Cal just got a huge clutch TD

Review ... OOB at 41. Cal still losing but with the ball.

[Balldog]

wow. Cal just got a huge clutch TD

He stepped Out of Bounds!

[k0ruptr]

ahh sweet. thx for the update.

[robbgmaier3]

good night cal

[robbgmaier3]

now on to....PUCK FITT!!!!

[k0ruptr]

INT

[ISiddiqui]

Wow... Cal is going to go down. Auburn went down. Florida barely beat South Carolina. Most of the 1 loss teams are having difficult weeks.

[cartman]

Texas needs to take K-State out behind the woodshed tonight to make a statement.

[k0ruptr]

Today is shaping up to be a great college football day.

[WVUFAN]

That's 3 Top 10 teams falling this week.

I think Rutgers benefits from this. They should step up in the polls fairly dramatically.

[cartman]

That's 3 Top 10 teams falling this week.

I think Rutgers benefits from this. They should step up in the polls fairly dramatically.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them sitting at #6 or #7 tomorrow.

edit: Maybe even higher if Texas, USC, or Arkansas stumbles tonight

[Arles]

I tell you what. Arizona's had a top 20 recruiting class for the past two seasons and is setting up for another big one this year. They could be a team to recon with in the Pac 10 next season. At any rate, this was a huge win.

[WVUFAN]

I wouldn't be surprised to see them sitting at #6 or #7 tomorrow.

edit: Maybe even higher if Texas, USC, or Arkansas stumbles tonight

Agreed. Especially given the computers seems to like them more than the other two BE teams.

Assuming USC, Texas and Arkansas wins, Rutgers will probably be at #6, with Louisville at #7 and WVU at #8 or #9. That would be three Big East teams in the Top 10.

[k0ruptr]

Boise St. losing at the half! 7-6 San Jose St.

[robbgmaier3]

WOO HOO PUCK FITT!!!!

[k0ruptr]

WOW UCONN went for 2 and got it. haha

[st.cronin]

You're using Maryland as a basis for your argument? Hah. Try that at the end of the year when they've lost their last three of the season to better conference teams. They'll lose to both BC and Wake and I would be surprised if they can beat Miami today. Using the Terps as a foundation for your insults is pitiful and it shows your lack of knowledge.

14-13 and you're officially an idiot.

:D

[k0ruptr]

ROFL

[Swaggs]

They cut away for us, too, and I'm in Michigan so no radio for me, either. Was he out there in the third quarter? I did notice he was limping a little bit after he pulled that Leonard leap in the first half.

I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I was kind of following along on the messageboards. It sounded like we pulled the starters and then the 2nd teamers started playing like crap (fumbling, making bad decisions, etc), so Coach put White and Owen back in to run the clock down and he got hurt somehow. Everyone was bitching about the decision to put him back in.

I haven't seen anything on the scout.com board since then, so hopefully he'll be ready to go on Thursday.

[Swaggs]

It could get interesting for the Big East if Boise State loses tonight, as we could manage to get two teams into the BCS.

A not too unlikely scenario if Cal beats Southern Cal and then Southern Cal beats Notre Dame. If that were to happen, and perhaps it would take another upset or two, the winner of Rutgers-WVU and Louisivlle could both get BCS bids.

[ISiddiqui]

Arkansas looking impressive against Tennessee so far.

[cartman]

Dick Tomey has done a heckuva job getting San Jose State bowl eligible. For a long time they could be counted on for 3 or fewer wins per season. If he can pull off the upset of the Smurfturfers, that'll be a huge win for the program.

[k0ruptr]

Dick Tomey has done a heckuva job getting San Jose State bowl eligible. For a long time they could be counted on for 3 or fewer wins per season. If he can pull off the upset of the Smurfturfers, that'll be a huge win for the program.

And also setting up a HUGE matchup next week when Tomey (former Hawaii coach) comes to visit the Warriors in Aloha stadium.

[Craptacular]

Arkansas is looking REALLY good, especially on offense. 28-7 late in the first half.

[cartman]

Texas has an efficient march down the field, but run into some problems on 1st and goal at the 2. They get it in on 4th down, but apparently Colt McCoy got a neck stinger on the sneak. We'll have to see if he can shake it off.

[Craptacular]

After Boise St took the lead, SJS scored a TD, then picked off Zabransky and quickly scored again. 20-12 SJS early in the 4th.

[st.cronin]

Arkansas is looking REALLY good, especially on offense. 28-7 late in the first half.

They are kicking ass.

[cartman]

There haven't been any updates on Colt McCoy, but he hasn't been on the field for the last two drives. Jevan Snead doesn't look comfortable at all throwing the ball.

[TazFTW]

Boise gets a TD plus the 2 pt conversion to tie the game with 5:22 left.

[Craptacular]

Boise St scores and gets the TPC to tie the game at 20.

edit: whoops ...too late

[Craptacular]

Nice fake KSU.

[cartman]

Kansas State goes for a fake punt. Texas is all over it and causes the punter to fumble. First and goal at the 3.

[cartman]

TD Texas, 14-7

Colt McCoy doesn't look like he'll be back this game. :(

[TazFTW]

Big punt return for Boise and they start their drive at San Jose's 37.

[Craptacular]

BSU at the 18 with 30 seconds left, so they should at least have a crack at a game-winning FG.

[TazFTW]

Boise gets a GW FG as time expires to stay undefeated.

[st.cronin]

Colt McCoy doesn't look like he'll be back this game. :(

What happened to him?

[TazFTW]

Kansas State takes the lead.

[cartman]

What happened to him?

He evidently got a neck stinger on a QB sneak

[TazFTW]

What happened to him?

He got injured doing the QB sneak.

[cartman]

Jevan Snead won't be able to lead a comeback. He hasn't looked good passing at all tonight.

[mauchow]

If Texas loses they'll probably stay ahead of the Badgers.. which would be so sad. They'll use the excuse of "Colt was injured, so we'll give them a break." The Badgers didn't play with Stocco and they still won.

*shrug*

I hate preseason rankings.

[Young Drachma]

Wow, what a weekend. It's like bracketbusters in basketball.

[larrymcg421]

What channel is the Texas-KSU game on?

[Young Drachma]

It's on ABC

[cartman]

What channel is the Texas-KSU game on?

ABC regional

[larrymcg421]

ABC regional

Lovely, so I can watch FSU shit all over my TV instead.

[mauchow]

Why does ESPN have UPSET WATCH: #18 Wake Forest vs Florida State? Its 20-0 WF.

[larrymcg421]

Why does ESPN have UPSET WATCH: #18 Wake Forest vs Florida State? Its 20-0 WF.

Because it's a non-name school beating a name school, I guess.

[Young Drachma]

Boise State should really stop kidding and join the Mountain West. It'd be good for them and it would help us out a ton, especially in football. This whole dominating the WAC thing is getting old.

[ISiddiqui]

Why does ESPN have UPSET WATCH: #18 Wake Forest vs Florida State? Its 20-0 WF.

As I believe they pointed out at the end of the 1st half, FSU was actually FAVORED in this game.

[larrymcg421]

Oklahoma WR Manuel Johnson is down and it looks very, very bad.

[st.cronin]

Why does ESPN have UPSET WATCH: #18 Wake Forest vs Florida State? Its 20-0 WF.

I think they're all "upset" that FSU is sucking this year.

[cartman]

Huge start for Texas in the 2nd half. Hold K State to a three and out, and then block the punt! First and goal!

TD Selvin Young on first down to tie the game.

[cartman]

Colt McCoy for sure won't be back. So it'll be up to Jevan Snead to manage the offense the rest of the game. At the beginning of the season, most people thought he'd be the starter by the Oklahoma game. Time for him to step up.

[robbgmaier3]

OK ABC, catch a clue please....time to switch games motherfuckers... :)

[mauchow]

Big fumble! KSU needs to do something with the ball this time; but I doubt they will.

[mauchow]

Nice, two big plays in a row for KSU including a what looked to be a WR Screen, but it was a pass for 30 yards instead. 1st and 10 inside the twenty..

THEN ANOTHER TRICK PLAY! TOUCHDOWN KSU! Wow!

[robbgmaier3]

halleujah, finally, ABC makes the switch, it must have been the MF that did it

[larrymcg421]

Someone please tell me when ABC switches. I'm afraid that FSU's offense will break my TV.

[larrymcg421]

Still on here for me.

[robbgmaier3]

texas looks like WVU tonight

[st.cronin]

FUM-BLE!!!!!!!

[mauchow]

ANOTHER FUMBLE, KSU recovers..

Although I'm going to call it, Texas will get it back as KSU never had it in possesion.

[cartman]

Jeebus. Texas must want K State to win this game.

[mauchow]

KSU Keeps it!

TOUCDOWN!!

FIRST PLAY!! Down with Texas!

[robbgmaier3]

Love.

It.

[cartman]

If Texas doesn't answer on this drive, no way that they'll have a chance to win.

[robbgmaier3]

best of all, musburger is on the other game :)

[Young Drachma]

Nice. work.

[st.cronin]

wooooo hooooooooooooo

[mauchow]

If Texas doesn't answer on this drive, no way that they'll have a chance to win.

I'd like to think this was true, but if Texas is down 14 with six minutes to go in the game, I'll still be nervous.

[larrymcg421]

Switch the fucking game. Now.

[mauchow]

BLOCKED! KSU BALL IN RED ZONE TERRITORY!

I have never been so pumped!

[robbgmaier3]

sweet......more more, i want more :)

[Young Drachma]

Game. over.

[cartman]

Now the A&M game turns into a must win for Texas.

[robbgmaier3]

BBOOOOOOOOOYYYYYAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[Young Drachma]

Awe-some

[st.cronin]

And another touchdown Kansas State. wtf happened to that Longhorn defense.

[mauchow]

What a catch! 21 point lead for KSU! Holy cow!

[Galaxy]

What a catch!

[Galaxy]

Or pass?

[TroyF]

What a wild, wild Saturday. Simply amazing so far.

I haven't read through any of this thread, but am I the only one that thinks the second best team in the country, right now, is Arkansas?

[Galaxy]

Oregon-USC are on now (FSN).

[mauchow]

All this talk about 'the best one loss team' really needs to be checked over again after tonight. Wow!

Cal - Check
Auburn - Check
Florida - Dang! They snuck out with a win.
Texas?
USC?

This has been a great weekend for College Football.

[robbgmaier3]

What a wild, wild Saturday. Simply amazing so far.

I haven't read through any of this thread, but am I the only one that thinks the second best team in the country, right now, is Arkansas?

yes :)

[Young Drachma]

What a wild, wild Saturday. Simply amazing so far.

I haven't read through any of this thread, but am I the only one that thinks the second best team in the country, right now, is Arkansas?

I was thinking that, actually.

[Galaxy]

What a wild, wild Saturday. Simply amazing so far.

I haven't read through any of this thread, but am I the only one that thinks the second best team in the country, right now, is Arkansas?

After today's fallout and the butt-kicking given to the Vols, I agree.

Could Rutgers have a real shot now if they win out, with these teams falling, and a little more help (a Florida loss, ND+USC)?

[mauchow]

Well, that was quick. Will KSU answer back?

42-28. High scoring game.

[cartman]

Texas isn't rolling over quite yet. 4 play drive for the TD. Now for the defense to step up like they started the half.

[st.cronin]

What a wild, wild Saturday. Simply amazing so far.

I haven't read through any of this thread, but am I the only one that thinks the second best team in the country, right now, is Arkansas?

3rd best

Please don't forget about Michigan.

[larrymcg421]

The bizaare scenario: ND, USC, and Florida all lose. The Ohio State-Michigan game is close. Possible rematch in the title game?

[mauchow]

I've always been curious why that isn't a safety when you muff it out of the endzone? Anyone care to explain?

[larrymcg421]

I'm still stuck with this bullshit Wake Forest-FSU game. It's 30-0 in the 4th quarter. I think Musberger has fallen asleep.

[cartman]

New QB for K-State. The guy that has been killing Texas is out with a hand injury.

[mauchow]

The bizaare scenario: ND, USC, and Florida all lose. The Ohio State-Michigan game is close. Possible rematch in the title game?

Even if all of that doesn't happen(which one of ND or USC has to lose anyways) there is a possibility that it does happen. But, who knows!

[mauchow]

KSU almost choked one up. Whew!

[larrymcg421]

I've always been curious why that isn't a safety when you muff it out of the endzone? Anyone care to explain?

I didn't see the play, but did he muff it from within the end zone or was he out of the end zone when he muffed it?

If he was in the end zone, then it makes sense, because there can't be a safety if the ball never crossed the goal line.

[st.cronin]

The bizaare scenario: ND, USC, and Florida all lose. The Ohio State-Michigan game is close. Possible rematch in the title game?

That would be the dumbest outcome ever.

[cartman]

He muffed it at the 3, and it rolled back into the end zone where he then fell on it.

[mauchow]

I didn't see the play, but did he muff it from within the end zone or was he out of the end zone when he muffed it?

If he was in the end zone, then it makes sense, because there can't be a safety if the ball never crossed the goal line.

He muffed it on the three yard line and it then rolled into the endzone.

[mauchow]

Reverse pass for TExas is WIDE open but the receiver drops it. Nicely done, too.

[cartman]

How the hell did Sweed drop that pass?

[Galaxy]

That would be the dumbest outcome ever.

Why's that?

[larrymcg421]

He muffed it at the 3, and it rolled back into the end zone where he then fell on it.

Yeah, in that case I don't like that rule, but I guess the idea is possession has to be established beyond the goal line before it can be a safety.

[mauchow]

Oregon picks one off deep in the redzone and runs it back to midfield. Wowza!

That was an impressive pick for a linebacker!

[cartman]

Snead is 5 of 15 for 66 yards. Not good.

[st.cronin]

Why's that?

Let's say Michigan wins 17-10. Then they meet in the championship game, and Ohio State wins 23-20. What, exactly, has been settled?

You get ONE chance to beat a team. Anything else makes no sense.

[ISiddiqui]

Let's say Michigan wins 17-10. Then they meet in the championship game, and Ohio State wins 23-20. What, exactly, has been settled?

You get ONE chance to beat a team. Anything else makes no sense.

Very good point. OSU wins in the "Championship Game", but are they really better than UM?

[Galaxy]

Let's say Michigan wins 17-10. Then they meet in the championship game, and Ohio State wins 23-20. What, exactly, has been settled?

You get ONE chance to beat a team. Anything else makes no sense.

Good point. But it's hard to argue against it as well if everyone else falls.

[larrymcg421]

While I agree that OSU v. Michigan rematch would suck, I think it's incorrect to assume that a title game is supposed to decide the "best" team. The title game is about determining a champion on the field. That is not necessarily the same as best team.

Example: I doubt many people would say that the 83 Hurricanes were better than the 83 Cornhuskers. But the Hurricanes won the title game on the field.

[mauchow]

INT, Texas ball in KSU territory. Yucky.

C'mon KSU don't give it away!

[mauchow]

And one play into the drive, touchdown from 33 yards out. Damn it. Seven point game just like that.

[cartman]

Texas cuts the lead to 42-35. They go downfield on the first play after an INT and get the TD.

[k0ruptr]

Just got back from a job interview, missed the last 3 hours of football. WOW great games today. Hawaii game starting in 5 minutes, Texas HOPEFULLY losing. And then hopefully Oregon Beats the shit out of Cal.


Oh yea, the Job interview went great :D

[st.cronin]

Good point. But it's hard to argue against it as well if everyone else falls.

Well, everyone else won't fail. There will be an Sec champ or a Big East champ or even Boise State. Or Wisconsin, who didn't get to play Ohio State during the regular season ... :D

[SirFozzie]

I'm about to drive to my local ABC station and force them to switch over to the Texas/KSU game at gunpoint.

[mauchow]

What is that idiot doing trying to catch that kickoff? Oh, well, it is tough to judge where you're at when you're looking up. :)

[larrymcg421]

I'm about to drive to my local ABC station and force them to switch over to the Texas/KSU game at gunpoint.

Don't leave without me!

[Swaggs]

Man, how many ranked teams have gone down today?

This was a crazy day for college football. And it looks like Texas and USC are going to have to work to win, as well.

[Swaggs]

Wow... missed the wide open receiver.

[larrymcg421]

"Texas, we are told, is losing."

Musberger is a fucking idiot.

[Craptacular]

Texas is real lucky they didn't get flagged for a late hit on that third-down pass.

[robbgmaier3]

i can't help but laugh at you poor schmucks that are still watching the florida state game.....maybe I'm going to hell, but damn that is funny

[ISiddiqui]

YAY!!

We get KState and Texas now!

[Swaggs]

The more football I watch this season, the more I appreciate how good Texas and USC were last season.

[larrymcg421]

i can't help but laugh at you poor schmucks that are still watching the florida state game.....maybe I'm going to hell, but damn that is funny

There was one exciting moment. Wake Forest was pinned deep, and it look like FSU stopped them for a safety, but the ref marked it at the 1. It was pretty funny watching FSU argue for the safety so they wouldn't get shut out.

Thankfully the game is over and they have finally switched.

[RedKingGold]

The more football I watch this season, the more I appreciate how good Texas and USC were last season.

I still think that this year's Ohio State would be able to play toe-to-toe with either of those teams.

[Swaggs]

I think they have to go for this.

[robbgmaier3]

SWWWWWEEEEEEEET

[larrymcg421]

What a clutch FG. That was HUGE.

[Swaggs]

Well... strike that.

That seemed like a hell of a call there.

[Craptacular]

Wow, that FG was perfect.

[mauchow]

Those three points are HUGE!

[cartman]

That pretty much should seal it for K-State

[cthomer5000]

wow. I thought the decision to kick a FG was insane, thinking going for it on 4th and 1 there was the OBVIOUS correct decision. Impressive kick, kid!

[ISiddiqui]

GOOOD!

From 51! KState up by 10! 3:19 left!

[robbgmaier3]

I think they have to go for this.

I would definitely agree with that, unless, you know, you can smack that field goal through....

wonder why they can kick one and not get it blocked, and ol ball coack can't?

[RedKingGold]

Assuming Texas loses and USC wins, I've got the top five as:

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Florida (I think they'll lose enough voters to slide down should SC win big)
5. ???

5 is where it gets interesting.

It's gotta be between Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Rutgers. I'm leaning towards Arkansas right now, because ND just hasn't done anything to really impress me so far this season (while Arkansas has). Also, I think the polls would never put Rutgers ahead of the sacred "Golden Domers" in my lifetime.

What do you think?

[Senator]

Stranger things have happened. C'mon Texas.

[larrymcg421]

KSU saw the Nebraska game. They knew that even if they converted the 4th down, they'd probably fumble it away.

[ISiddiqui]

Assuming Texas loses and USC wins, I've got the top five as:

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Florida (I think they'll lose enough voters to slide down should SC win big)
5. ???

5 is where it gets interesting.

It's gotta be between Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Rutgers. I'm leaning towards Arkansas right now, because ND just hasn't done anything to really impress me so far this season (while Arkansas has). Also, I think the polls would never put Rutgers ahead of the sacred "Golden Domers" in my lifetime.

What do you think?

I'd pick Arkansas, but I have a feeling Notre Dame gets that 5th position.

[cartman]

Today is kinda like conference championship day back in 2001, where all of the teams that if won would have been in the title game, lost.

[k0ruptr]

Assuming Texas loses and USC wins, I've got the top five as:

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Florida (I think they'll lose enough voters to slide down should SC win big)
5. ???

5 is where it gets interesting.

It's gotta be between Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Rutgers. I'm leaning towards Arkansas right now, because ND just hasn't done anything to really impress me so far this season (while Arkansas has). Also, I think the polls would never put Rutgers ahead of the sacred "Golden Domers" in my lifetime.

What do you think?


RUTGERS

[RedKingGold]

I'd pick Arkansas, but I have a feeling Notre Dame gets that 5th position.

For the record, I would put them in the order of Arkansas, Rutgers and Notre Dame. I'm not too sure it will matter though because I believe that USC is going to win out and will make it to the national title game against either OSU or Michigan.

I could live with that because I'd like to see Michigan-USC or Ohio State-USC.

[Swaggs]

Assuming Texas loses and USC wins, I've got the top five as:

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Florida (I think they'll lose enough voters to slide down should SC win big)
5. ???

5 is where it gets interesting.

It's gotta be between Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Rutgers. I'm leaning towards Arkansas right now, because ND just hasn't done anything to really impress me so far this season (while Arkansas has). Also, I think the polls would never put Rutgers ahead of the sacred "Golden Domers" in my lifetime.

What do you think?

I'd have a tough time putting a team that has lost by 36 points (Arkansas) and a team that lost by 26 points (Notre Dame) ahead of an undefeated Rutgers team that just knocked off the #3 team in the nation.

[mauchow]

Assuming Texas loses and USC wins, I've got the top five as:

1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. USC
4. Florida (I think they'll lose enough voters to slide down should SC win big)
5. ???

5 is where it gets interesting.

It's gotta be between Notre Dame, Arkansas, and Rutgers. I'm leaning towards Arkansas right now, because ND just hasn't done anything to really impress me so far this season (while Arkansas has). Also, I think the polls would never put Rutgers ahead of the sacred "Golden Domers" in my lifetime.

What do you think?

Rutgers will climb BIG time though.. I'm thinking 7 is pretty realistic for them, that'd be a 8 spot jump, if I recall? That is just crazy to see this late in the season. I'd like to see Wisconsin hop some of those two loss teams, but who knows what'll happen. I'm finally looking forward to see what happens in the rankings tomorrow.

[RedKingGold]

Rutgers will climb BIG time though.. I'm thinking 7 is pretty realistic for them, that'd be a 8 spot jump, if I recall? That is just crazy to see this late in the season. I'd like to see Wisconsin hop some of those two loss teams, but who knows what'll happen. I'm finally looking forward to see what happens in the rankings tomorrow.

Yep, Wisconsin and Wake Forest should definitely be in the top 15 come Monday. What's holding Wisconsin back is there schedule might be one of the worst I've seen in a long time. The only ranked opponent they've played all season was Michigan (whom they lost to by 13 points).

However, I watched Penn State get beat pretty bad by the Badgers, so count me in as a believer that they should be a top ten team.

[Craptacular]

Texas just won't die.

[Swaggs]

I'd have a tough time putting a team that has lost by 36 points (Arkansas) and a team that lost by 26 points (Notre Dame) ahead of an undefeated Rutgers team that just knocked off the #3 team in the nation.

Actually, thinking this over, I would guess that Rutgers will end up that high, or close to it, in the AP poll because the writers will analyze it thoroughly. I'm guessing the Coaches and Harris Poll voters will not.

[RedKingGold]

Come on KSU! Hang in out there!

[cthomer5000]

it really seems sometimes like teh clock NEVER runs in college football.

[Swaggs]

That was a dangerous pass.

[ISiddiqui]

Please K-State, don't blow it.

[robbgmaier3]

Texas just won't die.

yes, yes they will die

[cartman]

TD Texas!!!

Can we get the Pac-10 replay booth for the onside kick? ;)

[Swaggs]

What's the timeout situation?

[cartman]

What's the timeout situation?

Texas has 2 left.

[ISiddiqui]

KSTATE HAS THE ONSIDES KICK!!!

[Swaggs]

That didn't go 10-yards... Pretty risky play by the KSU player.

[Craptacular]

Texas should at least get a chance to block / return a punt.

[mauchow]

Ugh. Penalty will get this game to last a little longer..