NFL Week 17

[miami_fan]

Last week of the regular season. Watching the Jags-Chiefs, I am not so sure that David Garrard has sewn up the job the way many people thought earlier this season. Lefwich may not be going anywhere just yet.

[Booj]

I have the same opinion. I don't particularly like the Jags or Chiefs, but watching Gerrard and I can't imagine the Jaguars coming back, unless the Chiefs can't stop the run.

[kcchief19]

Chiefs winning, Bengals losing, Titans losing ... I'm beginning to believe in miracles. If this keeps up and San Francisco doesn't go all out to beat the Broncos, the entire team will be hunted by Chiefs fans until they are all rounded up and flogged.

[RedKingGold]

I can't believe how bad its gotten for the Cowboys and Giants. Yes, I know that the Giants won last night, but take Tiki Barber away from that team, and they are 4-12 or 3-13. The Cowboys are even more surprising as I felt they had more talent then how they are playing.

[kcchief19]

Ty Law just picked off a bubble screen pass that was quite impressive. That's supposed to be a fairly safe type of pass. I think it was borderline on whether it was a forward pass or a lateral. He takes it down to the goal line and LJ pounds it in.

Looks like the Chiefs are going to give LJ the carries to break Jamal Anderson's record.

And the Jaguars are getting ready to replace Garrard. Don't know if this is bad or good.

[Booj]

Quinn Gray is looking pretty good so far...

I'm impressed.

[kcchief19]

And the Jaguars are getting ready to replace Garrard. Don't know if this is bad or good.
Answer: Bad, because Gray comes in and rolls the Jags down to a quick TD. Ugh.

[Lathum]

The Bengals offense looks horrible right now.

[Booj]

What a bold move by Del Rio either way... with the playoffs on the line. I think that Leftwich is the QB for them either way, but I think Gerrard's tag as "best backup QB" took a hit with his performance today...

[Julio Riddols]

The Bengals won't even have to worry about the results of the other games. They will not win this one. I've never seen a team play so... lethargically, when the end of their season is on the line.

You have your biggest rivals at home, and can't even LOOK like youre TRYING to win?

What I wouldn't give to talk to the team right now and tell them how weak they are.

[Deattribution]

I can't get the TN/NE game here, but wow, the Patriots just gave up 45 yards in penalties on one drive according to the PBP?

[k0ruptr]

wow, Quinn Gray is a baller.

[kcchief19]

Sweet fancy Moses ... Gus Johnson and Steve Tasker are getting ready to put Quinn Gray on Mount Rushmore. Granted, all he's done in (part) of the third quarter is go 7 of 9 for 100 yards and run twice for 26 yards and 2 TDs.

Trent Green got knocked out, Huard came in engineered a TD drive. Green is now back in.

35-24, four TDs in the third quarter. What a game.

[kcchief19]

Crap. That Chiefs take two torpedos almost simultaneously ... Green throws a pick and Carson Palmer throws a long TD pass after the Steelers fumbled inside the Bengals 10 yard line.

[Julio Riddols]

Its a bad day to be a fan of one of these bubble teams.

[k0ruptr]

yea it sucks. Carolina beating the saints for nothing, since they were eliminated yesterday cuz the stupid fucking giants.

[kcchief19]

LJ is now at 402 carries.

[kcchief19]

And the Steelers are at the Cincinnati 4! Go Steelers!

[Julio Riddols]

Also, I have my doubts as to whether the Lions will need to draft a WR with Mike Furrey sucking up anything within ten yards of the line of scrimmage. He gets about as many receptions as a runningback gets carries.

Ah, who am I kidding. Calvin Johnson does need a home.

[kcchief19]

TD Steelers!

[Julio Riddols]

kc, you got any heavy objects around in case one of us needs to be put to sleep after today?

[kcchief19]

Crap. That Chiefs take two torpedos almost simultaneously ... Green throws a pick and Carson Palmer throws a long TD pass after the Steelers fumbled inside the Bengals 10 yard line.
Part II: Trent Green fumbles and turns it over just asthe Bengals take a 3-point lead. Double ugh.

[TazFTW]

Whoa, TO caught a deep ball.

[bhlloy]

For those not stuck in the UK without any TV coverage, did Dallas really just march 80 yards in 2 great plays or are the Lions tanking to avoid losing the first overall pick?

EDIT - never mind then :) Interesting what a Detroit win does to the draft - at number 2 the best value is almost certainly going to be Calvin Johnson

[Eaglesfan27]

LJ is now at 402 carries.

The NFL better issue a patch soon.

[Abe Sargent]

hello my Jags!

[KevinNU7]

Well the NFC is locked up

[KevinNU7]

TN/NE still has 11 minutes left!

[kcchief19]

The NFL better issue a patch soon.
I was refraining from making any jokes. ;)

LJ just tied ... and now breaks the record.

[kcchief19]

Frack ... Chris Henry just beat the Steelers secondary and they have the ball in field goal range.

[DeToxRox]

The NFL better issue a patch soon.

Mike Williams catches a TD pass. I agree.

[Greyroofoo]

Nice little scuffle in the KC/Jax game

[kcchief19]

Bengals lining up for a game-winning field goal.

[kcchief19]

He pushed it right! Graham misses! OT! Woo-hoo!

[kcchief19]

The Steelers win the toss. Come on Willie Parker and Big Ben!

[Julio Riddols]

This shit is just ridiculous :)

[Greyroofoo]

Wow, brilliant trick by KC to win the game

[Julio Riddols]

good luck chiefs!

[kcchief19]

I can't imagine the Patriots blowing a 10-point lead with 4 minutes to play, so I'm putting my faith in the hands of Alex Smith and Frank Gore. Come on Niners!

[RendeR]

*sigh*

[SirFozzie]

Vinny throws a Touchdown pass for the 20th straight season. Good for him

[Greyroofoo]

Bah, the Lions blew their chance for the first overall pick.

So congrat raiders?

[Senator]

Suicide Sunday.

[KevinNU7]

Vinny throws a Touchdown pass for the 20th straight season. Good for him
Now we can say he earned his silly paycheck :)

[Raiders Army]

Bah, the Lions blew their chance for the first overall pick.

So congrat raiders?

#1 baby!

[Julio Riddols]

S.F. going for it on 4th down this early when neither team has moved the ball? Bad sign for K.C.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm very happy that the Eagles have clinched the NFC East, but I'm sad that they are removing starters so early in the game when I have a few Eagles on 2 different Fantasy Football Teams that are playing in Championship Games. One of them is a money league where I stand to win a substantial amount of money if my team wins.

[KevinNU7]

I'm very happy that the Eagles have clinched the NFC East, but I'm sad that they are removing starters so early in the game when I have a few Eagles on 2 different Fantasy Football Teams that are playing in Championship Games. One of them is a money league where I stand to win a substantial amount of money if my team wins.
Any league that has championship game in week 17 are questionable IMO

[Ragone]

Gus Johnson must have had some kinda manlove for quinn gray.. I had to mute it after he got done blowing him after the 2nd series

[Eaglesfan27]

Any league that has championship game in week 17 are questionable IMO


I'm not a fan of it, but both leagues are with solid guys. I've argued against it in the money league strongly, but have gotten drowned out each time. That being said, it is a league with colleagues only, and I know more about football than most of them it seems, or I'm very lucky. I've won 1st or 2nd place money each of the last 4 years and have only lost money 1 year. So, I can't complain too much.

[Senator]

I'm very happy that the Eagles have clinched the NFC East, but I'm sad that they are removing starters so early in the game when I have a few Eagles on 2 different Fantasy Football Teams that are playing in Championship Games. One of them is a money league where I stand to win a substantial amount of money if my team wins.


Maybe the fantasy league needs to issue a patch.

[RedKingGold]

I bet the person at NBC who decided to put the Packers vs. Bears on Sunday NIght Football is contemplating a jump off of a tall building. Hopefully he'll take Bryant Gumbel with him

[KevinNU7]

I bet the person at NBC who decided to put the Packers vs. Bears on Sunday NIght Football is contemplating a jump off of a tall building. Hopefully he'll take Bryant Gumbel with him
It will do well just because it is Favre's last game (every though he'll be back next year). He'll through for tons of yards against the Bears B Team and the announcers will drool all over themselves

[Pumpy Tudors]

Denver is not making me happy right now. San Francisco is playing a decent ball game so far, and the Broncos aren't doing anything. If a Denver loss meant that Tennessee or Cincinnati would get into the playoffs, I'd be more content. As a good Broncos fan, though, I hate Kansas City and can't stand to see the Chiefs take that final playoff spot.

Ooh, just as I'm about to finish this post, Mike Bell breaks off a HUGE run. Of course, the last time Denver had first down near the goal line, they got stuffed on three straight plays. I'm not hopeful about this time either.

[Booj]

Ooh, just as I'm about to finish this post, Mike Bell breaks off a HUGE run. Of course, the last time Denver had first down near the goal line, they got stuffed on three straight plays. I'm not hopeful about this time either.

Good call.

6-0 denver

[Easy Mac]

It will do well just because it is Favre's last game (every though he'll be back next year). He'll through for tons of yards against the Bears B Team and the announcers will drool all over themselves

John Madden + Brett Favre's "last" game = multiple kleenex boxes.

[KevinNU7]

John Madden + Brett Favre's "last" game = multiple kleenex boxes.
And lotion :eek:

[Easy Mac]

And lotion :eek:

Al Michaels is silky smooth

[k0ruptr]

I wonder if he will compare Brett Favre to Brett Favre.

[Ragone]

Good news for chiefs fans.. jake plummer is in the game!

[kcchief19]

I'll forgive Frank Gore for giving Denver a TD on the botched reception if the Niners pull this game out. A TD here before halftime would be huge.

[kcchief19]

Denver is not making me happy right now. San Francisco is playing a decent ball game so far, and the Broncos aren't doing anything. If a Denver loss meant that Tennessee or Cincinnati would get into the playoffs, I'd be more content. As a good Broncos fan, though, I hate Kansas City and can't stand to see the Chiefs take that final playoff spot.
That's OK, the feeling is mutual. The Chiefs making the playoffs would be gravy. My second favorite choice to get the final wild card is "anyone but Denver." :D

[Galaril]

I can't imagine the Patriots blowing a 10-point lead with 4 minutes to play, so I'm putting my faith in the hands of Alex Smith and Frank Gore. Come on Niners!

Not that it matters now, but if the Titans won and the Broncos, Jags,Bengals lost the Titans not the chiefs would have made the playoffs;)

[Ragone]

uh.. wow

[Oilers9911]

You have got to be kidding on the review. How in the hell can they give SF the ball when the umpire is coming into spot the ball. If that costs Denver a playoff spot that is just ridiculous.

[MikeVic]

And now the next review calls that an imcompletion? Stupid refs lol...

[kcchief19]

Not that it matters now but if the titans won and the broncos lost the titans not the chiefs would have made the playoofs;)
I know, hence why I was rooting for the Patriots. ;)

[Oilers9911]

And now the next review calls that an imcompletion? Stupid refs lol...

This crew is brutal. I'm a Denver fan but that incomplete call was an obvious makeup call. It was most certainly a catch and down by contact. Horrible reffing.

[Oilers9911]

Ekuban you moron! Give them 3 points.

[kcchief19]

You have got to be kidding on the review. How in the hell can they give SF the ball when the umpire is coming into spot the ball. If that costs Denver a playoff spot that is just ridiculous.
That was hazy for sure. Clearly it was a fumble. The new rule is that if there is a fumble on a play ruled down by contact and the opposing team clearly recovers the fumble, it's a turnover. Granted, it happen real quick, but it did happen. I wouldn't be surprised if the rule is modified in the offseason to require that the opposing team recover the ball cleanly and "expeditiously."
And now the next review calls that an imcompletion? Stupid refs lol...
That was just a bizarre decision. I'm not sure how they can justify that one. On the bright side, if Denver loses the game their fans can't point to previous play and say they got screwed because they dodged a bullet on that one.

[kcchief19]

I realize I'm tempting fate by expressing this throught, but I'm somewhat surprised Shanahan is putting the game in the hands of a groggy Cutler instead of the average hands of Plummer. Granted, he's looking better on this drive, but earlier in this half he looked like he didn't know what zip code he was in.

Of course, I'd love to see the Niners try and play some pass defense instead of going into a soft zone. The corners are playing almost 10 yards off the receiver. They allowed Denver to move into the red zone without much of a challenge.

[Vince]

I know it's been mentioned before, but it needs to be repeated. These refs in the Niner-Bronco game have been atrocious.

[kcchief19]

Well, San Francisco played such soft defense that Denver left plenty of time on the clock. Of course, that doesn't really matter since there doesn't seem much of a chance that San Francisco can muster a two-minute drive to get into field goal range.

Exciting day for the bubble teams. I've had to sweat out one OT game already, looks like there might be another.

Niners, hold on to the ball! Don't give this game away!

[Vince]

I have to say...I'm rather excited that the Niners are right in a game AT Mile High against a Bronco team that needs a win to make the playoffs. Methinks we have a bright future ahead of us.

[kcchief19]

Broncos win the toss ... crap. If San Francisco comes out in that same candy-ass soft zone and let Denver drive into Elam field goal range in two plays, I'm going to be one pissed little camper.

[kcchief19]

I have to say...I'm rather excited that the Niners are right in a game AT Mile High against a Bronco team that needs a win to make the playoffs. Methinks we have a bright future ahead of us.
This has shaped up to be a nice season for the Niners. They need a defense, fill a couple of spots on offense and for Alex Smith to mature a bit, but there's reason to be optimistic.

[kcchief19]

OK, now I'm getting nervous because obviously the Broncos back into the playoffs with a tie.

[kcchief19]

Big drop by Marshall ... critical third and long here.

[kcchief19]

One more shot for the Niners!

[Vince]

That was awesome. Great block by Alex Smith.

[kcchief19]

Yeah, that was a great call well executed. Very nice move by Smith taking on Lynch.

The Niners need another 10 yards to give Nedney a realistic shot.

[Vince]

W00T!

[kcchief19]

YES! First down at the 25. Steady, Alex. Steady. This is your moment.

[Vince]

How about a play-action fake and go for the endzone?

[kcchief19]

This is killing me.

[kcchief19]

Kicking the field goal on third down.

[kcchief19]

GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vince]

Holy crap he almost missed that!

[MikeVic]

LOL.

"And he missed it! No wait."

[kcchief19]

I could make out with Joe Nedney right now.

[kcchief19]

LOL.

"And he missed it! No wait."
THAT was gold.

[MikeVic]

THAT was gold.

I was thinking what the other commentator said right after that, but the opposite role... I quickly thought "Did I miss the miss? That REALLY looked good to me."

[Scarecrow]

We going to the playoffs!!!!!

1. Beat Jacksonville - check
2. Have New England beat Tennessee (on the road) - check
3. Have Pittsburg beat Cincinatti (on the road) - check
4. Have San Francisco beat Denver (on the road) - check!

Lamar must have been calling in some favours up there.

[kcchief19]

Kansas City at Indianapolis

LJ versus the purous Indy run defense
Manning versus the porous KC pass defense

Make sure the scoreboard lights work next weekend.

[henry296]

Everything went right for the Steelers to come back from 5-7 to make the playoffs except for one thing.. beating Baltimore.

Congrats to the playoff teams. I think 7 teams finished 8-8.

[kcchief19]

We going to the playoffs!!!!!

1. Beat Jacksonville - check
2. Have New England beat Tennessee (on the road) - check
3. Have Pittsburg beat Cincinatti (on the road) - check
4. Have San Francisco beat Denver (on the road) - check!

Lamar must have been calling in some favours up there.
It was an improbably combination of things that had to happen.

I LOVE the alignmnent of fate for this team right now. We're going to Indianaopolis, who came into Arrowhead and knocked off a 13-3 Bono-led Chiefs in '95 with their 9-7 record and came into Arrowhead three years ago and beat us in the shootout. Combine that with the win one for Lamar attitude this team will have and I love the way things are clicking.

This team has NO expectations, which means they can have nowhere to go but up. We have had no success being the favorite in the playoffos -- let's try being Cinderella for a change.

[kcchief19]

I think the fact that it's the Broncos who get the shaft makes it more gratifying for me. :)

[Bad-example]

1. This has been the worst year ever for instant replay. Besides the two blown calls in today's Niner-Bronco game, it seems like there have been a ton of other calls that obviously went the wrong way after review.

2. The Niners have gone from 2-14 to 4-12 to 7-9. With $40M in cap room and ~11 draft picks, it is a foregone conclusion they will be a popular pick to make the playoffs next year. If Alex Smith can make another dramatic leap in development, they could be a very dangerous team. Remember when so many people were absolutely sure he was a complete bust?

3. Second year in a row the Niners win for pride at the end of the year but hurt their draft position. It cost them the chance to draft Reggie Bush last year.

[sabotai]

Remember when so many people were absolutely sure he was a complete bust?

No, I don't. :)

[Rizon]

Grossman is really, really, really bad. I'm beginning to think he will be homeless on the streets selling his ass for coke in just a couple of years.

[k0ruptr]

LOL great momentum for Grossman going into the playoffs
his stat line -
2/12 33 yards and 3 picks.

oh well at least he threw 2 touchdowns :D :D :D :D :D

[k0ruptr]

BOO u beat me to the weekly Grossman bashing post.

[kingfc22]

2. The Niners have gone from 2-14 to 4-12 to 7-9. With $40M in cap room and ~11 draft picks, it is a foregone conclusion they will be a popular pick to make the playoffs next year.

All those people who keep calling KNBR to bitch about Mike Nolan need to STFU and be thankful he is our coach. He has done an amazing job turning this team around and I am very excited to see what kind of season we will have next year.

[st.cronin]

What's the difference between Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton? I really can't tell.

[Buccaneer]

How come the QB for the Lions can go 28 for 42, 306 yds with 4 TDs and win on the road against the Cowboys but gets very little mention here or elsewhere while the QB for the Atlanta gets less than 300 yds total offense with 4 TDs and loses at home to the Cowboys yet gets trumpeted as having a career game? Shouldn't this be a bigger deal for Kitna?

[k0ruptr]

Kitna had a pretty good year with a crappy ass team.

[Galaril]

Living in Boston and being a Titans fan makes the loss to the Pats particularly painful. BTW I thought it was very classy of super coach Belicheck to run up the score on us at the end. The game went from 26-23 with 5 minutes left to 40-23. I hope somebody knocks those asses on there asses:eek:

[MikeVic]

Living in Boston and being a Titans fan makes the loss to the Pats particularly painful. BTW I thought it was very classy of super coach Belicheck to run up the score on us at the end. The game went from 26-23 with 5 minutes left to 40-23. I hope somebody knocks those asses on there asses:eek:

He put in Vinny T for a few plays and they still scored... not sure if that's running up. :D

[Galaril]

Yes true but still most teams would just run the damn clock out.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Living in Boston and being a Titans fan makes the loss to the Pats particularly painful. BTW I thought it was very classy of super coach Belicheck to run up the score on us at the end. The game went from 26-23 with 5 minutes left to 40-23. I hope somebody knocks those asses on there asses:eek:
I didn't see that game, but you make it sound like New England had the game wrapped up with a 3-point lead and five minutes on the clock. After what Tennessee has done the past few weeks, you need to keep scoring.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Yep. We're not talking up 24 points with 5 minutes left. As far as I'm concerned, until you are up by 3 scores in the 4th quarter, you keep the pedal to the metal. A quick TD and onside kick is always hanging out there.

[stevew]

Vince Young running down the field and clothesline tackling that Patriots DB was a pretty memorable play. Not something I'd want to see my 58 million dollar QB doing.

And Santonio Holmes put a nice exclamation point onto an otherwise frustrating season. I'm sure that Carson will need some more time with his therapist after the most recent ownage.

[flere-imsaho]

What's the difference between Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton? I really can't tell.

Grossman gets fired up and starts making mistakes.

Orton gets panicky and confused and starts making mistakes.

[Galaril]

Grossman gets fired up and starts making mistakes.

Orton gets panicky and confused and starts making mistakes.

Stick a fork int he PATS super bowl hopes. They have lost Rodney Harrison for at least the next two games.

[rkmsuf]

Stick a fork int he PATS super bowl hopes. They have lost Rodney Harrison for at least the next two games.

stop being a typical boston sports fan

[SirFozzie]

Stick a fork int he PATS super bowl hopes. They have lost Rodney Harrison for at least the next two games.

Thanks to a Titans cheap shot...

[stevew]

Irony.

[Pumpy Tudors]

What in the world are you guys talking about? The season ended when Joe Nedney made that field goal in overtime on Sunday. Shouldn't we be talking about the draft or something now?

[rkmsuf]

I think whether the Pats lose a playoff game will have little to do with Harrison out there or not. They are relatively fine without him in the lineup.

It's a minor factor at this point. Or at least one being way overblown.

[Galaril]

Actually,

Don't judge a book by it's cover or a person by his origin. You guys got it wrong .I am from Boston but hate the Pats and have been an Oilers/Titans fan for the last 30 years:). And I don't think it was that cheap. The guy is a rookie and Harrison had 40 pounds on the kid and some momentum. I read the play before harrison was raping the kid.

[Rizon]

NE isn't done. Look at how weak the AFC field is. Colts? Pfft. Chokers. Jets? Nothing to say there. Chargers? Worst postseason coach in NFL history. Ravens? No ground game + chump regular season schedule = early playoff exit.

And looking at all the chumps in the NFC bracket ... and my god are they weak ... NE should be the odds on favorite of winning it all, with or without HALF their roster. The only other team I see having a chance is the Saints and possibly the Eagles, the rest are cream puffs.