PDA

View Full Version : ESPN Reporting That Mora Is Fired.


Ben E Lou
01-01-2007, 12:14 PM
Press Conference scheduled at Flowery Branch, with Blank and McKay speaking...


http://atlantafalcons.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/ALJOJANEENMO/main_moracoach.jpg (javascript:otherLinkPopUp('http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/falcons/live/falconspress.rm&proto=rtsp '))

http://atlantafalcons.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/ALJOJANEENMO/title_pressertoday.gif The Falcons have called an afternoon press conference at their Flowery Branch team headquarters. Expected to speak are Owner Arthur Blank and GM Rich McKay.

Joe
01-01-2007, 12:16 PM
Welcome to Alabama, Mr. Mora

Ben E Lou
01-01-2007, 12:17 PM
They just updated AtlantaFalcons.com

http://atlantafalcons.com/images/common/new-tm-topstory-on.gifhttp://atlantafalcons.com/images/common/blogsTab_off.gif (javascript:setHmTab(2);)http://atlantafalcons.com/images/common/new-tm-fans-off.gif (javascript:setHmTab(3);)http://atlantafalcons.com/images/common/new-tm-tab-end.gif http://atlantafalcons.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/ALJOJANEENMO/main_moracoach.jpg (javascript:otherLinkPopUp('http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/falcons/live/falconspress.rm&proto=rtsp '))

http://atlantafalcons.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/ALJOJANEENMO/title_nomora.gif The Atlanta Falcons have released Head Coach Jim Mora from his contract (http://atlantafalcons.com/team/article.jsp?id=17665), effective immediately, the club announced Monday.http://atlantafalcons.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/PNDCPNLPCFCK/gd_video.gif Watch Jim Mora's LIVE press conference NOWn (http://play.rbn.com/?url=nfl/nfl/open/falcons/live/falconspress.rm&proto=rtsp) | Fan Reaction to Mora's release (http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/index.php?showforum=2)

duckman
01-01-2007, 12:20 PM
At least he can campaign for the Washington Huskies head coach position.

Raiders Army
01-01-2007, 12:21 PM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/ATL/9901769

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. (Jan. 1, 2007) -- Atlanta fired coach Jim Mora on Monday, just two years after he led the Falcons to the NFC championship game.

The decision to dump the fiery coach followed two straight disappointing seasons. The Falcons lost six of their final eight games in 2005 to miss the playoffs, and they finished 7-9 this season by losing seven of the last nine contests.

Owner Arthur Blank made the announcement at the team's suburban training complex.

Everybody gets what they want! It's like Christmas a week later!

JonInMiddleGA
01-01-2007, 12:22 PM
Now Blank will make another brilliant decision & hire Denny Green.

duckman
01-01-2007, 12:23 PM
Now Blank will make another brilliant decision & hire Denny Green.
Denny would be a perfect fit for the Falcons!

*ducks*

miami_fan
01-01-2007, 12:24 PM
Now Blank will make another brilliant decision & hire Denny Green.

Funny since they were saying that Blank wanted to make a big splash and was making sure he had a good chance at Mora's replacement before he fired Mora.

biological warrior
01-01-2007, 12:28 PM
Now, what are the grounds for firing Mora?

Ben E Lou
01-01-2007, 12:39 PM
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/ATL/9901769



Everybody gets what they want! It's like Christmas a week later!Blank gave us this for late Christmas. Now, if McKay will give us Calvin Johnson for late Easter, I'll be a happy, happy man.

cougarfreak
01-01-2007, 01:56 PM
Now, what are the grounds for firing Mora?

He's not real smart. And his QB sucks. He's been called a coach killer. :D

GrantDawg
01-01-2007, 03:24 PM
He's not real smart. And his QB sucks. He's been called a coach killer. :D


Mora's "coach killer" was his mouth. If he hadn't made the comments about the Washington job, I think he might still be employed. That "joke" was the final staw.

Dutch
01-01-2007, 03:32 PM
Mora's "coach killer" was his mouth. If he hadn't made the comments about the Washington job, I think he might still be employed. That "joke" was the final staw.

I'll bet McKay is hoping Tony Dungy leaves Indy this year.

hoosierdude
01-01-2007, 04:03 PM
I'll bet McKay is hoping Tony Dungy leaves Indy this year.

Well if they want an underachieving defense, and a coach that is unwilling to make changes when it is plainly obvious that what is being used isn't working now, Atlanta is free to take him.

Watch Dungy lead the Colts to the Super Bowl now that I said that. :)

Greyroofoo
01-01-2007, 04:46 PM
Well if they want an underachieving defense, and a coach that is unwilling to make changes when it is plainly obvious that what is being used isn't working now, Atlanta is free to take him.

Watch Dungy lead the Colts to the Super Bowl now that I said that. :)

The Colts are the winningest team in the last 5 years,

DAMN YOU DUNGY!

Easy Mac
01-01-2007, 04:50 PM
The Colts are the winningest team in the last 5 years,

DAMN YOU DUNGY!

You silly fool... 16 games a year isn't big enough to get a sample size of a team and coaches ability. All that matters is the larger sample size of 1 playoff game. Its the same thing in baseball. 162 games doesn't matter, only 7 (see the Braves).

Logan
01-01-2007, 05:16 PM
Now, what are the grounds for firing Mora?

Probably because he's white.

Tekneek
01-01-2007, 07:19 PM
More of the same from the Falcons, if you look at the history of the franchise. Nothing has changed under Arthur Blank compared to the past. Not saying they needed to keep Mora for sure, but firing the guy without knowing you've got a definite improvement about to be signed is typical of a franchise that never really goes anywhere. I hope they do prove me wrong and surprise everyone with a great choice of a proven/established/successful coach.

JonInMiddleGA
01-01-2007, 07:23 PM
... but firing the guy without knowing you've got a definite improvement about to be signed ...

Then again, I see zero reason to hope for any improvement if you don't make this move. A new coach is certainly no guarantee of success or even improvement, but keeping this one was a virtual guarantee of continued mediocrity.

Atocep
01-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Now, what are the grounds for firing Mora?

Highest payroll in the NFL this year and 2nd highest in NFL history got them a 7-9 record.

Deattribution
01-01-2007, 11:43 PM
I'd like you Falcon's fans to know that the states of Washington, South Dakota and Montana do not endorse this firing according to Sportsnation, I bet you're having second thoughts now! ha! Jokes on you!

QuikSand
01-02-2007, 12:07 AM
Highest payroll in the NFL

Spare me, the NFL is not about payroll.


And I tend to think PECOTA is kinda backwards myself. *shurg*

Atocep
01-02-2007, 12:51 AM
Spare me, the NFL is not about payroll.



No, its not about payroll in the sense that baseball is, but they put themselves in a position cap-wise where they need to win now or they'll be back to rebuilding. However, they aren't winning now and Arthur Blank's $111 million ended with a losing record. I'm sure he'd like a better return on his investment. So I'm sorry, but their payroll did play a role in his firing.

Tekneek
01-02-2007, 06:34 AM
Then again, I see zero reason to hope for any improvement if you don't make this move. A new coach is certainly no guarantee of success or even improvement, but keeping this one was a virtual guarantee of continued mediocrity.

I'm sure that was the theory behind the firing of all the other coaches who were tossed in the history of the franchise as well. What did we get out of that? More of the same. I will continue to be skeptical until the results show up. How about two winning seasons in a row for the first time in franchise history. Let's see if he can bring in somebody that will deliver that franchise first before we get too celebratory.

WSUCougar
01-02-2007, 06:43 AM
What did we get out of that? More of the same.
I might have gone with "Mora the same" there myself. :D

QuikSand
01-02-2007, 07:43 AM
No, its not about payroll in the sense that baseball is, but they put themselves in a position cap-wise where they need to win now or they'll be back to rebuilding. However, they aren't winning now and Arthur Blank's $111 million ended with a losing record. I'm sure he'd like a better return on his investment. So I'm sorry, but their payroll did play a role in his firing.

But if the payroll is the issue, then it's about guaranteed payroll, unusually-structured contracts, a contract-driven
window of opportunity," and that sort of thing. It's not that they are spending more money on their players then other teams, and demand results for the investment. Withint fairly modest shades of difference, NFL teams basically pay their players about the same amount.

I just don't think it makes any sense to talk about "high payroll" in the NFL as if it were a compelling factor like it is with, say, baseball. In baseball, teams make wildly different commitments to player payroll, and justifiably alter their expectations accordingly. In football, that simply isn't a serious issue.

21C
01-02-2007, 07:51 AM
I always thought that Mora got too much credit for his 11-5 debut season in 2004. Dan Reeves got fired in 2003 after Vick broke his leg in the preseason. The Falcons were considered to be contenders before the season but ended up 5-11 relying on Doug Johnson at QB for most of the year.

miami_fan
01-02-2007, 08:06 AM
Well Falcon fans where do they go from here? From what I have heard they want an proven head coach. A big name.

albionmoonlight
01-02-2007, 08:12 AM
No, its not about payroll in the sense that baseball is, but they put themselves in a position cap-wise where they need to win now or they'll be back to rebuilding. However, they aren't winning now and Arthur Blank's $111 million ended with a losing record. I'm sure he'd like a better return on his investment. So I'm sorry, but their payroll did play a role in his firing.
You don't sound sorry.

wbatl1
01-02-2007, 09:02 AM
More of the same from the Falcons, if you look at the history of the franchise. Nothing has changed under Arthur Blank compared to the past. Not saying they needed to keep Mora for sure, but firing the guy without knowing you've got a definite improvement about to be signed is typical of a franchise that never really goes anywhere. I hope they do prove me wrong and surprise everyone with a great choice of a proven/established/successful coach.

Like Denny Green? ;)

If we hire Denny Green, I will no longer support the Falcons. Period.

Tekneek
01-02-2007, 09:06 AM
Like Denny Green? ;)

If we hire Denny Green, I will no longer support the Falcons. Period.

Definitely not Denny. :)

The Falcons under Arthur Blank are just like the Falcons under Rankin Smith so far.

gstelmack
01-02-2007, 09:07 AM
The Colts are the winningest team in the last 5 years,

DAMN YOU DUNGY!

I'll take the Patriots' 3 Super Bowl Rings thank-you very much :D

Actually, the likelihood is more that Dungy leaves and the next coach wins a Super Bowl for them. See: Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

wbatl1
01-02-2007, 09:10 AM
Definitely not Denny. :)

They need to pull a rabbit out of a hat this time. The Falcons under Arthur Blank are just like the Falcons under Rankin Smith so far.

In a way. Arthur has at least is concerned with winning and has tried hard to bring good players to Atlanta and has paid all the bills plus some. His coaches and general manager have just wasted many of his efforts. The Smiths (at least in the later years) didn't put any effort into building the franchise in terms of courting free agents, upgrading facilities, ect.

Tekneek
01-02-2007, 10:47 AM
In a way. Arthur has at least is concerned with winning and has tried hard to bring good players to Atlanta and has paid all the bills plus some. His coaches and general manager have just wasted many of his efforts. The Smiths (at least in the later years) didn't put any effort into building the franchise in terms of courting free agents, upgrading facilities, ect.

It hasn't made much difference on the field in results up to this point. I was just frustrated. He has been more involved than Rankin Smith, who was an absentee owner...but it has not translated into a meaningful change in performance. They've got to get a coach that can stay here for a while and be successful. The revolving door policy is getting old.

Kodos
01-02-2007, 10:56 AM
It seems like Blank has his heart in the right place, but is becoming Dan Snyder, Jr.

wbatl1
01-02-2007, 11:01 AM
It hasn't made much difference on the field in results up to this point. I was just frustrated. He has been more involved than Rankin Smith, who was an absentee owner...but it has not translated into a meaningful change in performance. They've got to get a coach that can stay here for a while and be successful. The revolving door policy is getting old.

And I feel the exact same sentiments, which is why I said "In a way." Arthur is doing the right things, but it is not leading to the right results...

flere-imsaho
01-02-2007, 11:37 AM
This is going to sound like hindsight, but I originally thought, when Mora was hired, that it was an odd choice. Here you have the game's biggest conundrum of an offensive player (Vick), and you're bringing in a coach with no head coaching experience and what experience he does have is on the defensive side of the ball.

In the other thread we talked about how it would be good/nice/whatever if the Falcons had someone either at HC or OC who was both willing and capable to devise and implement a novel offensive plan that took Vick's unique talents into account. We'll see what happens.

wade moore
01-02-2007, 11:39 AM
Do Falcons fans have a dream hire here? The only people I can think of that seem like big name great fits seem pretty much impossible to get (Weis comes to mind for instance).

wbatl1
01-02-2007, 11:43 AM
Do Falcons fans have a dream hire here? The only people I can think of that seem like big name great fits seem pretty much impossible to get (Weis comes to mind for instance).

No, I don't think so. I think everybody was just upset with the utter failures of the previous administration and wanted the coach, at least part of the problem, out. I think most folks would like to see an offensive coach, but I don't think there is anyone who the fans would kill for.

wade moore
01-02-2007, 11:45 AM
No, I don't think so. I think everybody was just upset with the utter failures of the previous administration and wanted the coach, at least part of the problem, out. I think most folks would like to see an offensive coach, but I don't think there is anyone who the fans would kill for.

The Boise St. coach would sure seem to be a trendy "innovative" coach..

Cringer
01-02-2007, 11:49 AM
In the other thread we talked about how it would be good/nice/whatever if the Falcons had someone either at HC or OC who was both willing and capable to devise and implement a novel offensive plan that took Vick's unique talents into account. We'll see what happens.

They should hire Mike Martz. :)

Butter
01-02-2007, 12:19 PM
Frank Beamer

st.cronin
01-02-2007, 12:22 PM
Frank Beamer

My first thought as well.

Pumpy Tudors
01-02-2007, 12:31 PM
I'm going to go out on a very, very distant limb and say that they'll bring back Art Shell.

Ksyrup
01-02-2007, 12:40 PM
I hear Jeff Bowden is looking for a job...

wbatl1
01-02-2007, 12:46 PM
No, I'd say that Rich McKay is watching the Pittsburgh situation very, very closely...

rkmsuf
01-02-2007, 12:47 PM
No, I'd say that Rich McKay is watching the Pittsburgh situation very, very closely...

so like the falcons are going with a player coach next year while cowher sits out?

stevew
01-02-2007, 12:59 PM
Whiz won't get the Pittsburgh HC job, so I think he will be an excellent choice for ATL.

rkmsuf
01-02-2007, 01:01 PM
Whiz won't get the Pittsburgh HC job, so I think he will be an excellent choice for ATL.

ah forgot about the whiz. nobody beats him.

Pumpy Tudors
01-02-2007, 01:09 PM
Whiz won't get the Pittsburgh HC job, so I think he will be an excellent choice for ATL.
How did Onterrio Smith get involved in this?

albionmoonlight
01-02-2007, 01:24 PM
Threads about Jim Mora getting fired turn Pumpy into the funniest guy on the board.

Ksyrup
01-02-2007, 01:34 PM
And unfortunately for us, that's only happened once.

Pumpy Tudors
01-02-2007, 02:35 PM
This board must have hit a serious downswing if I'm the funniest guy here. What's next? SkyDog will hand over moderator status to jbmagic?

Kodos
01-02-2007, 02:39 PM
this board must have hit serious downswing if I'm funniest guy here. What next. SkyDog hand over moderator status to jbmagic?



Edited by: JB magic

rkmsuf
01-02-2007, 02:41 PM
This board must have hit a serious downswing if I'm the funniest guy here. What's next? SkyDog will hand over moderator status to jbmagic?

LOOVVVVVVEEEEEEE IT!

GrantDawg
01-02-2007, 04:28 PM
Local radio is reporting that the Falcons have recieved permission from the Steelers to talk to both Whisenhunt and Grimm. They have also given the Cardinals permission to to talk to Whisenhunt.

Also, the biggest dream name that has come up so far...Lovie Smith's contract allows him to walk at the end of the season if someone offers him a "title" upgrade.