ABA vs NBA:The Rivalry Begins

[SelzShoes]

"The ABA had a red, white and blue ball because I said it would have one. It was that simple. We wanted our own identity, and the ball is the symbol of basketball, isn't it? To this day, you ABA and people talk about the ball.

I admit that I had a personal beef about the brown ball. I remember sitting up in the balcony at some NBA games and I just couldn't see the darn thing that well. The arenas were darker then than they are now, and the ball just sort of blended into the background. When you watched a basketball game on television, that dirty brown ball didn't show up very well.

Okay, so I wanted a different color for our new league. Then I said, "What's the name of the league"

The American Basketball Association.

What's America's colors?

Red, white and blue.

So why not a red, white and blue ball?"

George Mikan, quoted in "Loose Balls: The Short, Wild Life of the American Basketball Association" by Terry Pluto, 1990.

[SelzShoes]

Since the All-American Football Conference is going to play a tangential part of the CIE world I thought it would be nice to sim the AAFC and NFL season. The QPFootball (the same one used by Wolfpack in his college football dynasty) game at tabletop-sports.com suited my needs for the gridiron, both pro and college. But I didn’t want just a QP game for basketball.

I’ve been aching to play a basketball game for years and the BAA and NBL seemed to be the way to satisfy my desire. Settling on Statis Pro Basketball (which I did play about 15 years ago) I started looking for stats so I could start making player cards. Then two things hit me:

One, I can’t hold up CIE for a basketball season. I go slow; it’s a fact. It would be 2009 before I start the 1947 baseball season.

Two, pre-shot clock basketball is boring.

Well, one thing the ABA years weren’t was boring—it was an easy pick. I’m not going to try to do a story for this thread; Terry Pluto’s Loose Balls is better than any fiction I can come up with. This is going to be more of a GM/Coach perspective on the Association.

A couple notes on how players were created. Instead of using “as played” stats; I decided to use a 3-year average for each player. The 1967-1968 player card is based on the 66-67, 67-68, and 68-69 seasons. I also made cards for players drafted in 1966 and 1967 who did not debut until after the 68-69 season (Mike Silliman was, for example, the Knicks 1966 8th round pick, but did not make the NBA until 1970 with the Braves). For statistics like blocks, turnovers, steals and 3-point shots career totals are prorated to the player card. I could be completely wrong in how I did some of this so this could just fall apart after a couple weeks.

I also have an aging/salary system set up which may or may not work.

So this may go nowhere, or I might be merging the NBA and ABA in a decade. We’ll have to see how far it goes.

[SelzShoes]

Rosters will be set at 11 for both Associations during the regular season. Players not in the 1967 drafts are assigned by the first team they appeared with in the 1967-1968 season.


Baltimore Bullets
Coach Gene Shue
Name Height Pos Age
Johnny Egan 5.11 G 28
Leroy Ellis 6.10 C-F 26
Bob Ferry 6.08 C-F 29
Gus Johnson 6.06 F-C 31
Kevin Loughery 6.03 G 26
Jack Marin 6.07 F-G 22
Stan McKenzie 6.05 F-G 22
Don Ohl 6.03 G 30
Ray Scott 6.09 F-C 28

Boston Celtics
Coach Bill Russell
Name Height Pos Age
Wayne Embry 6.08 C-F 29
John Havlicek 6.05 F-G 26
Johnny Jones 6.07 F 23
Don Nelson 6.06 F 26
Bailey Howell 6.07 F 30
Sam Jones 6.04 G-F 33
Bill Russell 6.09 C 32
Larry Siegfried 6.03 F 27
Thomas Sanders 6.06 F 28
Tom Thacker 6.02 G-F 27

Cincinnati Royals
Coach Ed Jucker
Name Height Pos Age
Len Chappell 6.08 F-C 26
Connie Dierking 6.09 C-F 30
Bill Dinwiddie 6.07 F 23
Jim Fox 6.10 C-F 23
Happy Hairston 6.07 F 24
Al Jackson 6.01 G 23
Bob Love 6.08 F 24
Jerry Lucas 6.08 F-C 26
Oscar Robertson 6.05 G-F 28
Flynn Robinson 6.01 G 25
Adrian Smith 6.01 G 30
Walt Wesley 6.11 C 22

Detroit Pistons
Coach Donnis Butcher
Name Height Pos Age
Dave DeBusschere 6.06 F-G 26
Dave Bing 6.03 G 23
Terry Dischinger 6.07 F-G 26
Eddie Miles 6.04 G-F 26
George Patterson 6.08 C-F 27
Joe Strawder 6.10 C 26
John Tresvant 6.07 F-C 27
Tom Van Arsdale 6.05 F-G 23

New York Knickerbockers
Coach Dick McGuire
Name Height Pos Age
Dick Barnett 6.04 G-F 30
Walt Bellamy 6.11 C 27
Nate Bowman 6.10 C 23
Bill W. Bradley 6.05 F-G 23
Emmette Bryant 6.01 G 28
Jim Caldwell 6.10 C 24
Fred Crawford 6.04 G-F 25
Neil Johnson 6.07 F-C 23
Howard Komives 6.01 G 25
Willis Reed 6.09 C-F 24
Cazzie Russell 6.05 F-G 22
Dick Van Arsdale 6.05 G-F 23

Philadelphia 76ers--1966-1967 NBA Champions
Coach Alex Hannum
Name Height Pos Age
Wilt Chamberlain 7.01 C 30
Larry Costello 6.01 G 35
Billy Cunningham 6.06 F-C 23
Hal Greer 6.02 G-F 30
Matt Guokas 6.05 G-F 22
Lucious Jackson 6.09 F-C 25
Wali Jones 6.02 G 24
Bill Melchionni 6.01 G 22
Jim Reid 6.06 F 21
Chet Walker 6.06 F-G 26

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Chicago Bulls
Coach Red Kerr
Name Height Pos Age
Bob Boozer 6.08 F 29
Barry Clemens 6.06 F 23
Keith Erickson 6.05 F-G 22
Reggie Harding 7.00 C 24
McCoy McLemore 6.07 F-C 24
Erwin Mueller 6.08 C-F 22
Guy Rodgers 6.00 G 31
Dave Schellhase 6.03 G 22
Jerry Sloan 6.05 G-F 24
Craig Spitzer 7.00 C 21
Jim Washington 6.06 F-C 23
Ken Wilburn 6.06 F 22

Los Angeles Lakers
Coach Bill Van Breda Kolff
Name Height Pos Age
Jim Barnes 6.08 C-F 25
Elgin Baylor 6.05 F 32
Archie Clark 6.02 G 25
Mel Counts 7.00 C-F 25
Gail Goodrich 6.01 G 23
Dennis Hamilton 6.08 F 22
Tom Hawkins 6.05 F 30
Darrall Imhoff 6.10 C 28
Jerry West 6.02 G-F 28
John Wetzel 6.05 G-F 22

Saint Louis Hawks
Coach Richie Guerin
Name Height Pos Age
Zelmo Beaty 6.09 C 27
Bill Bridges 6.06 F-C 27
Joe Caldwell 6.05 F-G 25
Jim Davis 6.09 C-F 25
Richie Guerin 6.04 G 34
Lou Hudson 6.05 F-G 22
George Lehmann 6.00 G 24
Jay Miller 6.05 F 23
Paul Silas 6.07 F-C 23
Dick Snyder 6.05 G-F 23
Gene Tormohlen 6.08 C-F 29
Lenny Wilkens 6.01 G 29

San Diego Rockets
Coach Jack McMahon
Name Height Pos Age
Charles Acton 6.06 F 25
Jim Barnett 6.04 G-F 22
John Barnhill 6.01 G 28
John Block 6.09 F-C 22
Tyrone Britt 6.04 G 22
Hank Finkel 7.00 C 24
Dave Gambee 6.06 F 29
Johnny Green 6.05 F-C 33
Toby Kimball 6.06 F-C 24
Jon McGlocklin 6.05 G-F 23
Jim Ware 6.07 F 22
Arthur Williams 6.01 G 27

San Francisco Warriors
Coach Bill Sharman
Name Height Pos Age
Alvin Attles 6.00 G 30
Joe Ellis 6.06 F-G 22
Fred Hetzel 6.08 F-C 24
Jim King 6.02 G 25
Rudy LaRusso 6.07 F-C 29
Clyde Lee 6.10 F-C 22
George Lee 6.04 F-G 30
Jeff Mullins 6.04 G-F 24
Nate Thurmond 6.11 C-F 25
Bob Warlick 6.05 G-F 25

Seattle SuperSonics
Coach Al Bianchi
Name Height Pos Age
Henry Akin 6.10 C-F 22
Walt Hazzard 6.02 G 24
Tom Kron 6.05 G 23
Tom Meschery 6.06 F 28
Dorie Murrey 6.08 F-C 23
Enoch Olsen 6.08 F-C 26
Rod Thorn 6.04 G 25
Bob Weiss 6.02 G 24
George Wilson 6.08 C 24

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For purposes of this dynasty, Rick Barry won his case against the reserve clause. No player will have to sit out a season if they jump leagues.


Indiana Pacers
Coach Larry Staverman
Name Height Pos Age
Ron Bonham 6.05 F 24
Roger A. Brown 6.05 F-G 24
Oliver Darden 6.07 F-C 22
Bobby Edmonds 6.06 F 25
Jerry Harkness 6.02 G 26
Freddie Lewis 6.00 G 23
George Peeples 6.07 C-F 23
Jim Rayl 6.02 G 25

Kentucky Colonels
Coach John Givens
Name Height Pos Age
Howard Bayne 6.06 F 24
Orbie Bowling 6.10 C 27
Bill Bradley 5.11 G 25
Darel Carrier 6.03 G 26
Larry Conley 6.03 G 23
David Gaines 6.01 G 24
Stew Johnson 6.08 F-C 22
Goose Ligon 6.07 F-C 22
Charles Nash 6.05 F 24
Bobby Rascoe 6.04 G-F 26
Kendall Rhine 6.10 C 23
Joe Roberts 6.06 F 30
George Sutor 6.08 C 23
Tommy Woods 6.07 F 23

Minnesota Muskies
Coach Jim Pollard
Name Height Pos Age
Dick Clark 6.04 G 23
Donnie Freeman 6.03 G 22
Les Hunter 6.07 F-C 24
Terry Kunze 6.04 G-F 23
Skip Thoren 6.10 C 23

New Jersey Americans
Coach Max Zaslofsky
Name Height Pos Age
Dan W. Anderson 6.10 C 23
John Austin 6.00 G 22
Al Beard 6.09 C 24
Art Heyman 6.05 F-G 25
Tony Jackson 6.04 F-G 24
John Mathis 6.06 F 23
Bob McIntyre 6.06 F 23
Mel Nowell 6.02 G 27
Walt Simon 6.06 F-G 27
Bruce Spraggins 6.05 F 26
Levern Tart 6.02 G-F 24
Hank Whitney 6.07 F-C 27

Pittsburgh Pipers
Coach Vince Cazzetta
Name Height Pos Age
Cal Graham 6.02 G 22
Connie Hawkins 6.08 F-C 24
Bob Hogsett 6.07 F 26
Jim Jarvis 6.01 G 23
Tom Kerwin 6.07 F 22
Bill Meyer 6.03 G 23
Rich Parks 6.07 F 23
John Postley 6.05 F 26
Steve Vacendak 6.01 G 22
Charles Vaughn 6.02 G 26
Charlie Williams 6.00 G 23
Leroy Wright 6.09 F 28

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Anahiem Amigos
Coach Al Brightman
Name Height Pos Age
Bill Allen 6.08 C-F 21
Bob Bedell 6.07 F 22
Steve Chubin 6.02 G 22
Jeff Congdon 6.01 G 23
Bill Crow 6.01 G 26
Warren Davis 6.06 F-C 23
Harry Dinnel 6.04 F-G 25
John Fairchild 6.08 F 23
Bill Garner 6.10 C 26
Steve Kramer 6.05 G-F 22
Larry Moore 6.07 F 22
Paul Scranton 6.05 F 22
Les Selvage 6.01 G 23
Bob Sims 6.05 G-F 28
Randy Stoll 6.07 C 21
Willis Thomas 6.02 G 29
Herschel Turner 6.02 G 28
Ben Warley 6.05 F-G 30

Dallas Chaparrals
Coach Cliff Hagan
Name Height Pos Age
John Beasley 6.09 F-C 22
Mike Dabich 7.00 C 24
Cliff Hagan 6.04 F-G 35
Carroll Hooser 6.07 F 22
Riney Lochmann 6.06 F 22
Elton McGriff 6.09 C 24
Maurice McHartley 6.03 G-F 24
Richard Peek 6.11 C 23
Cincy Powell 6.07 F-C 24
Gene Wiley 6.10 C 29
Bob Wilson 6.08 F 22

Denver Rockets
Coach Bob Bass
Name Height Pos Age
Tom Bowens 6.08 F-C 26
Chuck Gardner 6.08 F 22
Julian Hammond 6.05 F 23
Wayne Hightower 6.08 F-C 27
Tom Hoover 6.09 C 26
Ron Horn 6.07 F 28
Larry Jones 6.02 G-F 24
R. B. Lynam 6.01 G 22
Willie Murrell 6.06 F 25
Grant Simmons 6.03 G 23
Lonnie Wright 6.02 G 23

Houston Mavericks
Coach Slater Martin
Name Height Pos Age
Art Becker 6.07 F 25
Wilbert Frazier 6.07 C-F 24
Joe Hamood 6.00 G 23
Leary Lentz 6.06 F 21
Dewitt Menyard 6.10 C 22
Wayne Molis 6.08 F 23
Roger Schurig 6.03 G 24
Willie Somerset 5.08 G 25
Gary Turner 6.07 F 21

New Orleans Buccaneers
Coach Babe McCarthy
Name Height Pos Age
Jesse Branson 6.07 F 25
Larry Brown 5.09 G 26
John Comeaux 6.05 F 23
Gerald Govan 6.10 F-C 25
Leland Mitchell 6.04 G 25
Doug Moe 6.05 F-G 28
Jackie Moreland 6.07 F-G 28
Austin Robbins 6.08 F-C 22
Red Stroud 6.00 G 25

Oakland Oaks
Coach Bruce Hale
Name Height Pos Age
Rick Barry 6.07 F 22
Gary Bradds 6.08 F 24
Jim Hadnot 6.10 C-F 27
Ira Harge 6.09 C 25
Steve Jones 6.05 G-F 24
Dave Lee 6.07 F 24
Mel Peterson 6.04 G-F 28
Willie Porter 6.07 F 24

Draft results are next

[SelzShoes]

1967 NBA Draft

Notes: This is the only draft in the dynasty I plan on using actual results. Only players who made the NBA/ABA are listed

Round 1
Pick Team Player College
1. Detroit Pistons Jimmy Walker Providence College
2. Baltimore Bullets Earl Monroe Winston-Salem State University
3. Chicago Bulls Clem Haskins Western Kentucky University
4. Detroit Pistons Lloyd Dove St. John's University
5. New York Knickerbockers Walt Frazier Southern Illinois University
6. Seattle Supersonics Al Tucker Oklahoma Baptist University
7. San Diego Rockets Pat Riley University of Kentucky
8. St. Louis Hawks Tom Workman Seattle University
9. Cincinnati Royals Mel Daniels University of New Mexico
10. San Francisco Warriors Dave Lattin University of Texas at El Paso
11. Boston Celtics Mal Graham New York University
12. Philadelphia 76ers Craig Raymond Brigham Young University
Round 2
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Jimmy Jones Grambling State University
2. Detroit Pistons
3. Chicago Bulls Byron Beck University of Denver
4. Los Angeles Lakers Randolph Mahaffey Clemson University
5. New York Knickerbockers Phil Jackson University of North Dakota
6. San Diego Rockets Bob Netolicky Drake University
7. Seattle Supersonics Bob Rule Colorado State University
Round 3
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Detroit Pistons Darrell Hardy Baylor University
3. Chicago Bulls J ohn Dickson Arkansas State University
4. Los Angeles Lakers
5. New York Knickerbockers Gary Gregor University of South Carolina
6. St. Louis Hawks Bob Verga Duke University
7. Cincinnati Royals Gary Gray Oklahoma City University
8. San Francisco Warriors Bill Turner University of Akron
9. Cincinnati Royals Sam Smith Kentucky Wesleyan College
10. San Diego Rockets Richard Moore Hiram Scott College
11. Seattle Supersonics
12. San Diego Rockets Nick Jones University of Oregon
Round 4
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Al Salvadori University of South Carolina
2. Detroit Pistons Ronald Franz University of Kansas
3. Chicago Bulls Jim Burns Northwestern University
4. Los Angeles Lakers Cliff Anderson Saint Joseph's University
5. New York Knickerbockers Keith Swagerty University of the Pacific
6. St. Louis Hawks Wes Bialosuknia University of Connecticut
7. Cincinnati Royals Louie Dampier University of Kentucky
8. San Francisco Warriors Bobby Lewis University of North Carolina
9. Boston Celtics
10. San Diego Rockets Ronald Kozlicki Northwestern University
11. San Diego Rockets Craig Dill University of Michigan
12. Seattle Supersonics Larry Bunce Utah State University
Round 5
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Dexter Westbrook Providence College
2. Detroit Pistons Paul Long Wake Forest University
3. Chicago Bulls
4. Los Angeles Lakers
5. New York Knickerbockers Barry Leibowitz Long Island University
6. St. Louis Hawks
7. Cincinnati Royals Trooper Washington Cheyney University of Pennsylvania
8. San Francisco Warriors Mike Lynn University of California, Los Angeles
9. Boston Celtics
10. Philadelphia 76ers
11. Seattle Supersonics Plummer Lott Seattle University
12. San Diego Rockets
Round 6
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Bob Reidy Duke University
2. Detroit Pistons
3. Chicago Bulls Marlbert Pradd Dillard University
4. Los Angeles Lakers Gary Keller University of Florida
5. New York Knickerbockers
6. St. Louis Hawks John Morrison Canisius College
7. Cincinnati Royals
8. San Francisco Warriors Dale Schlueter Colorado State University
9. Boston Celtics
10. Philadelphia 76ers
11. San Diego Rockets
12. Seattle Supersonics
Round 7
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Ron Perry Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
2. Detroit Pistons Bobby Lloyd Rutgers University
3. Chicago Bulls
4. Los Angeles Lakers
5. New York Knickerbockers
6. St. Louis Hawks Carl Fuller Bethune-Cookman College
7. Cincinnati Royals Charles Beasley Southern Methodist University
8. San Francisco Warriors
9. Boston Celtics Edgar Lacy University of California, Los Angeles
10. Philadelphia 76ers Frank Card South Carolina State University
11. Seattle Supersonics
12. San Diego Rockets
Round 8
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Ed Manning Jackson State University
2. Detroit Pistons George Carter St. Bonaventure University
3. Chicago Bulls
4. Los Angeles Lakers Don Carlos Otterbein College
5. New York Knickerbockers
6. St. Louis Hawks Arvesta Kelly Lincoln University of Missouri
7. Cincinnati Royals
8. San Francisco Warriors
9. Boston Celtics Andrew Anderson Canisius College
10. Philadelphia 76ers
11. San Diego Rockets
12. Seattle Supersonics
Round 9
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Chicago Bulls
3. Los Angeles Lakers
4. New York Knickerbockers
5. St. Louis Hawks Ed Biedenbach North Carolina State University
6. Cincinnati Royals
7. San Francisco Warriors
8. Boston Celtics
9. Philadelphia 76ers Ron Filipek Tennessee Technological University
10. Seattle Supersonics Roderick McDonald Whitworth
11. San Diego Rockets
Round 10
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Chicago Bulls
3. Los Angeles Lakers
4. New York Knickerbockers
5. St. Louis Hawks
6. Cincinnati Royals Willie Davis North Texas State University
7. San Francisco Warriors
8. Boston Celtics Rick Weitzman Northeastern University
9. Philadelphia 76ers
10. San Diego Rockets
11. Seattle Supersonics
Round 11
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Chicago Bulls
3. Los Angeles Lakers
4. New York Knickerbockers
5. Cincinnati Royals
6. San Francisco Warriors
7. Boston Celtics
8. Philadelphia 76ers
9. Seattle Supersonics
10. San Diego Rockets
Round 12
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Detroit Pistons
3. Chicago Bulls Ron Widby University of Tennessee
4. Los Angeles Lakers
5. New York Knickerbockers Mike Riordan Providence College
6. Cincinnati Royals
7. San Francisco Warriors
8. Philadelphia 76ers
9. San Diego Rockets
10. Seattle Supersonics Rubin Russell North Texas State University
Round 13
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Detroit Pistons Matthew Aitch Michigan State University
3. Chicago Bulls
4. Los Angeles Lakers
5. Cincinnati Royals
6. Philadelphia 76ers
7. Seattle Supersonics
8. San Diego Rockets
Round 14
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Chicago Bulls
3. Cincinnati Royals Jerry Pettway Northwood Institute
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. San Diego Rockets
6. Seattle Supersonics
Round 15
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Rich Peek Louisiana Tech University
2. Chicago Bulls
3. Cincinnati Royals
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Seattle Supersonics
Round 16
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Chicago Bulls Jimmy Dawson University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
3. Cincinnati Royals
4. Philadelphia 76ers Wayne Chapman Western Kentucky University
Round 17
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
2. Cincinnati Royals
3. Philadelphia 76ers
Round 18
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
Round 19
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets
Round 20
Pick Team Player College
1. Baltimore Bullets Roland West University of Cincinnati

[SelzShoes]

Generally speaking, the ABA did not list the round a player was picked in; instead they released a complete list of draftees.

Team Name College/HS/Country
ANA Darrell Hardy Baylor
ANA Bob Lewis North Carolina
ANA Mike Lynn UCLA
ANA Tom Workman Seattle
ANA Denny Holman Southern Methodist
ANA Edgar Lacy UCLA
DEN Walt Frazier Southern Illinois
DEN Bob Rule Colorado State University
DEN Gary Keller Florida
DEN Byron Beck Denver
DEN Dave Lattin Texas Western
DEN John Morrison Canisius
DEN Bill Turner Akron
DAL Matt Aitch Michigan State
DAL Jim Burns Northwestern
DAL Gary Gray Oklahoma City
DAL Pat Riley Kentucky
HOU Bob Riedy Duke
HOU Keith Swagerty Pacific
HOU Don Carlos Otterbein
HOU Hal Hale Utah State
HOU Guy Manning Prairie View
HOU Jerry Pettway Northwood Institute
HOU Dale Schlueter Colorado State
IND Charles Beasley Southern Methodist
IND Jim Dawson Illinois
IND Craig Dill Michigan
IND Bob Netolicky Drake
IND Jim Walker Providence
IND Ron Kozlicki Northwestern
KEN Louie Dampier Kentucky
KEN Clem Haskins Western Kentucky
KEN Bob Verga Duke
KEN Randy Mahaffey Clemson
MIN Mel Daniels New Mexico
MIN Phil Jackson North Dakota
MIN Bob Lloyd Rutgers
MIN Sam Smith Kentucky Western
MIN Gary Gregor South Carolina
MIN Erv Inniger Indiana
MIN Rich Jones Illinois
MIN Errol Palmer DePaul
MIN Ron Perry Virginia Poly Institute
NJA Lloyd Dove St. John's
NJA Mal Graham New York University
NJA George Stone Marshall
NJA Harry Laurie St. Peters (NJ)
NOB John Dickson Arkansas State
NOB James Jones Grambling
NOB Paul Long Wake Forest
NOB Ron Widby Tennessee.
NOB George Carter St. Bonaventure
NOB Dexter Westbrook Providence
OAK Wes Bialosuknia Connecticut
OAK Richie Moore Hiram Scott
OAK Al Salvadori South Carolina
OAK Al Tucker Oklahoma Baptist
OAK Mike Davis Virginia Union
OAK Ron Franz Kansas
OAK Marlbert Pradd Dillard
PIT Cliff Anderson St. Joseph's (PA)
PIT Barry Liebowitz Long Island
PIT Earl Monroe Winston-Salem
PII Craig Raymond Brigham Young
PIT Tom Washington Cheyney State
PIT Frank Card North Carolina A&T
PIT Mike Riordan Providence

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Cliff Williams G 6.03 21
Doug Sims F 6.07 23
Richard Nemelka G 6.00 24
Mike Silliman F 6.06 22
John Clawson F 6.04 22
Jay Carty F 6.08 25
Bill McGill C-F 6.09 27
Lonnie Lynn F 6.07 23
Willis Bennett G 6.03 23
Paul Neumann G 6.01 29
Dave Stallworth F-C 6.07 25
Dave Deutsch G 6.01 21
Jerry Chambers F 6.05 23
Gerry Ward G 6.04 25
Ron Reed F 6.05 24
Ron Watts F 6.06 23

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[SelzShoes]

I'm planning on playing an "exhibition" season this weekend to refamilarize myself with Statis Pro and make some roster decisions.

I will be using the actual "as played" schedules for both league when I begin the regular season. I should get this started by next weekend.

[SFL Cat]

Loved the ABA. I remember my dad taking me to Kentucky Colonel games when I was a kid living in Louisville.

[SelzShoes]

Loved the ABA. I remember my dad taking me to Kentucky Colonel games when I was a kid living in Louisville.

If you haven't checked out SFL Cat's "Sports and History" thread--do it now.

I don't have any direct memories of the ABA (the only pro game I've ever been to was a KC Kings/Chicago Bulls exhibition game--and that was to see ex-Illini Eddie Johnson), but I do remember only wanting to watch basketball if Dr. J was involved. I also remember his great Converse Ads ("Are you wearing magic shoes?") and those really bad "Dr. Chapstick" ads.

I did run a couple exhibition games last night and I need to make a couple changes. I severely undervauled 3-point attempts and probably should have prorated steals, blocks and turnovers on a per-minute basis and not a pre-game average. I'm definately making the changes for the 3-point attempts, but might leave the other stats alone.

[SelzShoes]

The wife is going to LA this week for her job, so I should be able to get most of the exhibition schedule done while she is gone. I made the corrections to the 3-point attempts, steals and blocks and they at least look more accurate than the first batch I made.

For the exhibition season, it will be assumed all games are on neutral courts with Fast Break Offenses set to B and Fast Break Defenses set to C. Stamina (total of Fouls, Field Goal Attempts, and Rebounds) of players will be capped at 20. Also, any "ignore Stamina" for players at 20 or above will be ignored.

The ABA used a 30 second shot clock for all but its last season; for simplicity sake, both Associations will have a 24 second clock in my replay.

Exhibition Basketball tips-off when I get back from taking the wife to the airport.

[SelzShoes]

Best laid plans and what not. Setting up the stat sheets and some other 'bookkeeping' items were more involved than I thought they would be. But the games are getting played faster and faster as I move on. Scoring is lower in games since scrubs are getting a good hunk of PT.

BOS 81
CHI 79

BAL 56
SEA 87

CIN 87
LAL 100

DET 84
SLH 112

NYK 110
SDR 112 (Rookie Pat Riley hit the game winner as time expired)

PHI 94
SFW 77