Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens! - rules and signup thread

[hoopsguy]

The format for this game is going to be a little bit different than a traditional werewolf game. So I figured I would go ahead and post the rules ahead of time so people can determine if this is something that would be interesting. I've bolded the sections that are significant deviations from standard play (about half the rules).

(Edit) I'll start taking sign-ups now but will hold a couple of spots in reserve for a couple of WW old-timers I'm trying to coax back into the mix. I'll be looking for 25 players for this game, with the intention of starting Wednesday if the game fills up quickly or Thursday regardless of numbers. From a balance perspective, I think 25 is the right number to play with.

Please post any questions in this thread. Tyrith will be helping me with some of the moderation duties (if there are 25 unique roles, there are going to be a bunch of calculations and unique PMs to manage) so either of us should be able to help explain anything that is unclear.


Moderator Source Note #1 - There have been a pair of superhero games on BoardGameGeek, one involving Thanos and another that was an X-Men based game, that got me looking at comics as source material.

The Werewolf Gauntlet: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/112679

X-Man: The Cure: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/117348/page/1

Moderator Source Note #2 - this game will be based very loosely upon the X-Men story "The Twelve". This was a story that was hinted at for a decade before a clumsy cross-over event was launched sometime in the mid-90's. For me, it was a case of expectations far exceeding the delivery. Hopefully this game does not parallel the comic in that respect ...
Here is a summary of the original story in the comics. Note that I will be quite liberal with my adaptation to werewolf and that events are likely to deviate substantially from the comic version.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse:_The_Twelve#The_Twelve

Background:
"The Twelve" were first mentioned by X-Men foe Master Mold and later referenced in the diaries of noted precognative Destiny. The names of the twelve are unknown, but they are closely tied to a future where Apocalypse rules the earth with an iron fist.

Each of the heroes finds themselves in the deserts of Egypt after an encounter with the minions of Apocalypse, the Dark Riders. You have battled your way into the inner sanctum of Apocalypse to face the world's oldest mutant once and for all.

Players: 25
Evil/Werewolves: Apocalypse and his four horsemen
Good/Villagers: Everyone else

During sign-ups, each player selects a Marvel comics hero or villain that they would like to play during this game. The moderator has the right to refuse a selection (Apocalypse can not be selected) but will try to accomodate any reasonable selection. Once twenty five players have signed up and selected their characters the moderator will assign roles/powers.

The game begins with randomly assigning the role of Apocalypse. The player who is assigned Apocalypse will retain the guise of his selected character, but will gain the extra abilities associated with this role. Apocalypse can then choose his four horsemen, with the knowledge of the players and their hero/villain, but not knowledge of their roles/powers. The game then proceeds with 20 good guys and 5 villains.

Win Conditions:
Evil: eliminate "The Twelve" from the game. Evil knows the identities of the Twelve (out of 20 heroes). When all of these characters are removed from the active roster Evil wins the game
Good: defeat Apocalypse and his four horsemen.

Characters:
Each character will be assigned a set of powers, as well as ratings for Health and Energy.
Health - how much damage a character can sustain before they are killed
Energy - the currency for taking actions. All powers cost at least one point of energy
Powers - these will differ from character to character. As you would expect with a comic book theme, some characters will be inherently more powerful than others
All characters recover 3 energy and 1 health per day unless otherwise noted. Health cannot exceed the starting value, but there is no cap on energy levels. If a character does not launch an attack during the Day cycle they will only recover 2 energy. This is in place to encourage participation and to remove any incentives to skipping an action during the day.

Day Cycle:
Each character declares their attack and their target in the thread - use caps and bold at the bottom of your post to declare this. A post in the thread assumes that one point of damage will be delivered. However, characters have the option of delivering additional damage. PM the moderator if you want to deliver extra damage.

Once an attack is issued it cannot be revoked. Additional attacks may be initiated, assuming there is energy remaining to execute the attack.
At the end of the Day cycle, the character who receives the most effective damage (some damage may be negated by use of active or inherent powers) is eligible for lynch. If the effective damage is greater than their remaining health, that character is removed from the game.
Additionally, a second character who sustain a level of effective damage greater than or equal to twice their health rating (ex: Health of 6, if reduced to -6 or less they would fall under this rule) will suffer the same fate. So it is possible for there to be no "lynch" or for their to be two "lynches" in a given day. The tie-breaker for 2nd kill, if it comes to that, is 1.) furthest value from zero 2.) most damage sustained in current day.

Since the amount of total damage sustained is not published (until day results are tabulated), the order of attacks and the player executing the "kill shot" will be noted in the end of day summary. The characters faction will be revealed upon death, but it will not be revealed publicly if the character was a member of the "Twelve".

Night Cycle:
Many characters will have powers that can be used during the Night Cycle. Additionally, the forces of Apocalypse will be able to initiate a night kill that is not related to expending health/energy (standard wolf kill). Heroes may be able to impact the night kill through use of powers. Below is the order for night actions. In cases where multiple actions fall in the same sub-category and order does matter (two attacks on same target, for example) a random number generator will be used to process the order.
Order of Night Actions:
1. Defense actions
2. Research actions
3. Attack actions - heroes first, then villains
4. Energy/health regeneration

Powers:
There are four classes of damage: physical, energy, psionic, and magical. Characters may have resistances to some or all of these damage types.
Characters may have active or passive powers. Active powers must be declared - in the thread or via PM, as specified by the character description. Passive powers are always active.

Example:
Active Power:
Laser Beam (1) - does one point of damage for each point of energy used
Passive Power:
Tough Skin (0) - subtract one point of damage from all physical attacks against the character

Expect that there will be some duplicate powers, depending on character selection (Iron Man and Doctor Doom, for example) but a ton of unique powers as well. Powers should be a reflection of the comic book character, but likely will not be an exact representation. This is done for both game balance and to introduce some elements of unpredictability in the game.

Teams:
Heroes may form "teams" by mutual declaration. When a team is formed, they have the opportunity to deliver additional damage by acting in unison (+0.5 additional damage for every member of the team) . However, if there is a villain participating in the team they have the opportunity to sabotage the effectiveness of a team's actions (-2 cumulative damage). Teams can be formed and broken up at any time. The declaration of a team must be agreed upon in the thread. The team should be announced in bold, with the name of the team and all member of the team. Additional benefits may become available for teams who remain together for a sustained period of time.

Additional Notes:
1. If you try to use a power and do not have enough power to use it the power will not activate
2. If you try to use a power and use more energy than you currently have, the moderator will assign all remaining energy to the power
3. No editing posts
4. Actions are processed in the order posted. So if someone issues an order such as "protect Solecismic with a Force Field" that will impact future attacks but have no bearing on attacks already launched
5. Character powers will take precedence over any rules posted in this thread. The rules here are meant to apply to the majority, but in some cases may not apply to a small minority
6. This is a comic book setting. Expect some new mechanics for this game that pay homage to a comic book universe.
7. Playing in character is highly encouraged. The moderator reserves the right to reward players for especially good role play, either publicly or privately.
8. All PMs to the moderator should be addressed to both hoopsguy and Tyrith to make sure the action/question/concern is properly processed.



Sign-ups:
1. Schmidty (Hulk)
2. Path12 (Silver Surfer)
3. Barkeep49 (Magneto)
4. Blade6119 (Moon Knight)
5. DaddyTorgo (Professor X)
6. AlanT (Warpath)
7. Swaggs (Storm)
8. Anxiety (Hawkeye)
9. Chief Rum (Gambit)
10. Ardent Enthusiast (Daredevil)
11. Thomkal (Cannonball)
12. WVUFAN (Dr. Doom)
13. Spleen1015 (Mystique)
14. LoneStarGirl (Captain Marvel)
15. Bonegavel (Wolverine)
16. Jonathan Ezarik (Spiderman)
17. gi (Captain Britain)
18. Raiders Army (Deadpool)
19. ntndeadcon (Mandarin)
20. Mr Wednesday (Mathemanic)
21. SackAttack (Captain America)
22. GoldenEagle (Juggernaut)
23. Grammaticus (Venom)
24. Eaglesfan27 (Iron Man)
25. Talgian (Mr. Sinister)

Alternate #1: Dodgerchick
Alternate #2: Lathum
Alternate #3:

[Schmidty]

I'm in, and I'd like to be the Hulk.


(If this counts as the sign-up thread....)

[hoopsguy]

I'm in, and I'd like to be the Hulk.


(If this counts as the sign-up thread....)

I wasn't originally intending for it to be the sign-up thread, as I didn't want to disrupt Cronin's game. But I also wanted to be able to get started fairly soon after his game is done and I'm going to be out of town from Friday - Monday, so with a different game type I wanted to give people a chance to see if it looked interesting so sign-ups could proceed quickly on Monday night.

That said, I can see where that would be confusing. So lets make it easy. I'll take sign-ups here as well.

[Lorena]

Uhh... this sounds really, really awesome... but I get confused enough as it is, this game might be a bit much for me.

Is it possible to learn as we go along? I'm pretty interested but am afraid of making a major, major mistake in confusion.

[Tyrith]

Learning as you go is encouraged :) Hoops and I are always available for questions.

[Lorena]

Screw it, I love me some Jean Grey... in pls.

[hoopsguy]

Uhh... this sounds really, really awesome... but I get confused enough as it is, this game might be a bit much for me.

Is it possible to learn as we go along? I'm pretty interested but am afraid of making a major, major mistake in confusion.

I would expect everyone will be learning as they go along in this one. The last game that was as fundamentally different as this one was Barkeep's Treasure Hunters game, and Day 1 was pretty chaotic for a lot of people - especially the bad guys :)

By all means, ask questions ahead of time to try and establish a comfort level. Usually people get the hang of a new rule set like this one by Day 3, due to the collective conversation.

[Lorena]

I'm in, and I'd like to be the Hulk.


(If this counts as the sign-up thread....)

:D

This is so you! "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!"

ROOOOAAAARRRRR!!!

Few minutes pass by and you're back to normal.

[Schmidty]

:D

This is so you! "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!"

ROOOOAAAARRRRR!!!

Few minutes pass by and you're back to normal.


Hell yeah!!! :D

[Barkeep49]

I'll be Magneto thank you.

[Blade6119]

ill be my moonknight(i think that was his name)!

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm so the hell in. i guess i hafta pick who i want to be though hmm.

well since barkeep is being magneto...i'll take charles xavier plz

[Alan T]

I'm in! I will pick Wolverine.

[Barkeep49]

i'm so the hell in. i guess i hafta pick who i want to be though hmm.

well since barkeep is being magneto...i'll take charles xavier plz
So good of you to join me Charles. So good indeed.

[DaddyTorgo]

So good of you to join me Charles. So good indeed.

Perhaps we can see eye to eye this time Erik? Set aside our differences and work together for the good of mutant-kind?

[Schmidty]

Perhaps we can see eye to eye this time Erik? Set aside our differences and work together for the good of mutant-kind?

NO TALK!!!!!!! SMASH!!!!!!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

NO TALK!!!!!!! SMASH!!!!!!!!

lol

[Barkeep49]

Perhaps we can see eye to eye this time Erik? Set aside our differences and work together for the good of mutant-kind?
Charles I always want to work for the good of mutant-kind. Always.

[DaddyTorgo]

Charles I always want to work for the good of mutant-kind. Always.

how about human-kind? i realize they aren't so much a factor here, but can you square yourself with saving all of those who you hate so much in the process?

[hoopsguy]

AlanT will now be playing the role of Warpath.

Wolverine is once again available if anyone wants him.

[Antmeister]

I shall be Nightcrawler.

[Barkeep49]

I shall be Nightcrawler.
Welcome mutant to our little conclave. Nice to have a first timer like you around.

[Antmeister]

By the way, I don't know what the hell is going on. Dodgerchick thought I should join this random game of chance and luck.

[Barkeep49]

how about human-kind? i realize they aren't so much a factor

Thank you for summing up my feelings so well.

[Antmeister]

Welcome mutant to our little conclave. Nice to have a first timer like you around.

Thanks, now I shall see how brual this is. :D

[Barkeep49]

By the way, I don't know what the hell is going on. Dodgerchick thought I should join this random game of chance and luck.
The community has put together a primer at: http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=53377

I'd take a look there and there are many of us who can help answer your questions going from there.

[Barkeep49]

Thanks, now I shall see how brual this is. :D
It need only be brutal to those who stand in our way.

[DaddyTorgo]

Erik Erik Erik...I was praying you had changed and we could work together once again. Together we would be nearly unstoppable!

[Lorena]

By the way, if anyone is opposed to Ant and I playing together, I will gladly step away to have him play.

[Schmidty]

I shall be Nightcrawler.

That was my second choice.

I'm happy that you finally broke down and joined the WW craze. :D

[Mr. Wednesday]

By the way, if anyone is opposed to Ant and I playing together, I will gladly step away to have him play.

You just (both of you) need to be able to deal with the possibility of ending up on opposite teams. OOG friendship has been known to be leveraged by the devious. :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

Suggestion for hoops, you might want to post the characters that were previously indicated as desired in the other thread, so anybody who didn't already pick one doesn't accidentally step on toes.

[hoopsguy]

MrW, I'm fine with people going ahead and picking new characters - creating the ones earlier basically made it so I would not have to create 25 from scratch between the sign-up and start of the game. Here is that link:
http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=53059

I haven't posed any limitations that the people requested in the other thread are locked in for the person who suggested them (many people suggested multiple characters) although I would hate for someone to be discouraged from playing because someone beat them to their favorite character.

On a somewhat related note, if anyone is thinking about playing this game but doesn't know anything about Marvel comics I would encourage them to post what kind of hero they would like to play and I (or anyone else who knows a bit about the Marvel universe) can provide some suggestions.

[Abe Sargent]

Just spank my ass and call me Hawkeye!!!


-Anxiety

[Lorena]

Just spank my ass...


-Anxiety

Ask and you shall recieve

http://forums.contractoruk.com/images/smilies/extras/spank.gif

[Chief Rum]

I don't know the Marvel universe for squat, but I would like to play. I don't really care who I am, so I wouldn't mind if someone who did know what they were talking about picked me out a cool character who is available. Once I have a name, I can go wikipedia and find out what I have gotten myself in for.

Oh, and please really pick me a cool character (I don't care if good or bad), because it would suck for someone to pick me a crappy character for a joke.

Or I will just take a character at random.

Thanks!

[path12]

I don't know much about the Marvel characters either, but in looking through wiki I think I'd like to be Silver Surfer.

If someone had their heart set on that already, I'd be happy to switch to a random choice.

[Schmidty]

I don't know much about the Marvel characters either, but in looking through wiki I think I'd like to be Silver Surfer.

If someone had their heart set on that already, I'd be happy to switch to a random choice.

You're omnipotent. We might as well crown you the winner.

[Lorena]

After much deliberation, I'm gonna pull out of this one. I wouldn't feel comfortable with Antmeister and myself both playing at the same time.

Besides, it'd be a lot funnier to watch him fall flat on his face from the outside :D

[Poli]

I'm assuming I'm accepting a reserved slot. :)

[hoopsguy]

I'm assuming I'm accepting a reserved slot. :)

Well, there is the little matter of choosing your hero/villain to play ...

[Thomkal]

Well I suck at werewolf, but the theme and Hoops asking me to play is enough to make me sign up. :) Undecided on what character I want to play.

[Alan T]

Well I suck at werewolf, but the theme and Hoops asking me to play is enough to make me sign up. :) Undecided on what character I want to play.

I hope people don't stay away from playing WW because they feel they aren't good at it. I personally like having you or other folks who don't play as regularly in at times just because it changes things up and makes things less predictable at times. All that should matter is if you enjoy playing or not. If you have fun who cares what others think of your abilities :)

I constantly have people every game talk about how harmful I am leading people wrong when I'm a villager. I don't let that keep me from playing :)

[hoopsguy]

So many ways to make fun of Alan here :)

But I'll stifle my snarky remarks to agree that people should play the game to have fun. I generally have more fun with a bigger, more diverse pool of players so I hope that moderators create immersive games for players and that players treat their fellow players well within the games, thus creating that fun experience people want to come back to when sign-ups are posted for the next game.

[Abe Sargent]

I don't know the Marvel universe for squat, but I would like to play. I don't really care who I am, so I wouldn't mind if someone who did know what they were talking about picked me out a cool character who is available. Once I have a name, I can go wikipedia and find out what I have gotten myself in for.

Oh, and please really pick me a cool character (I don't care if good or bad), because it would suck for someone to pick me a crappy character for a joke.

Or I will just take a character at random.

Thanks!


Here's my backup character in case I hadn't gotten Hawkeye - hoops created his rules:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_%28comics%29

He was Marvel's most popular character in the early seventies and the face of the Avengers during that time.

-ANxiety

[Thomkal]

I hope people don't stay away from playing WW because they feel they aren't good at it. I personally like having you or other folks who don't play as regularly in at times just because it changes things up and makes things less predictable at times. All that should matter is if you enjoy playing or not. If you have fun who cares what others think of your abilities :)

I constantly have people every game talk about how harmful I am leading people wrong when I'm a villager. I don't let that keep me from playing :)

Oh I have fun when I play WW Alan, but when evil or part of a team, my suckiness hurts the team. Blade spotted me pretty easily as an evil last game I played. So that I don't like too much. I'm not one who likes all out analysis of every last rule and scenario from the start of the game as many seem to like here, so that gets me in trouble. If people would just leave me alone it would be fine, lol.

[WVUFAN]

I'd love to play in this.

I'll be Iron Man.

[WVUFAN]

Here's my backup character in case I hadn't gotten Hawkeye - hoops created his rules:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_%28comics%29

He was Marvel's most popular character in the early seventies and the face of the Avengers during that time.

-ANxiety

The Vision rules!

[spleen1015]

I'm in!

Mystique for me please!

[spleen1015]

I think Chief Rum should be Forge. He's cool, right? I don't know how we would work his abilities into WW though.

[Schmidty]

I know that everyone wants to be clever and original (except for me ;) ), but someone has to be Spider-man.

[LoneStarGirl]

I want to be Storm :-)

She is the only woman character I knew off the top of my head. I think GE is going to play this one too, ill make him get on this afternoon and sign up as a birthday gift cuz i love playing with him ;)

[Bonegavel]

I'll take Wolverine. This is my first WW, so I will suck and suck badly.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

A werewolf game about comic book characters? Man, what a bunch of geeks.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Oh, who am I trying to kid?

I'm in. I really don't care who I am, but I'll take Spidey if no one else wants him (does this mean I get to make out with Kirsten Dunst?)

[hoopsguy]

I'll take Spidey if no one else wants him (does this mean I get to make out with Kirsten Dunst?)

I will try to put a fair amount of comic book flavor into the game. But no promises on Spidey getting the girl.

[gi]

Sign me up and if possible I'd like to be Captain Britain (Brian Braddock), also known as Britannic.

I'll be reading up on the rules tomorrow at work.

[Barkeep49]

Oh, who am I trying to kid?

I'm in. I really don't care who I am, but I'll take Spidey if no one else wants him (does this mean I get to make out with Kirsten Dunst?)
It would be far better if you embrace your unique talents Spiderman instead of merely worrying about humans. You could achieve so much, yet so many are holding you back.

[Raiders Army]

I'd like to be Longshot. Better lucky than good. ;)

[Raiders Army]

I'm also assuming from what people have picked so far (although they're not exclusively mutants) that this is from the Marvel Universe. It'd be sort of funny to see Superman, Batman, Spawn, or Groo the Wanderer. :)

[hoopsguy]

Yes, I'm restricting it to the Marvel Universe because I have a much better shot of knowing those characters and rewarding people for good role-playing. I think this genre is just begging for some level of playing in character. There won't be any penalties for not playing in character except potentially foregoing undeclared benefits.

For someone who is signing up that isn't familiar with their character (not a comics guy) I will try to provide information on the character personality as well as links to Wikipedia or some other references for research.

[Raiders Army]

Hmmmm...just reading through the thread and I saw SnDvls in another thread suggested Longshot. Don't want to take the character if he's going to be him.

I'll take another who's an interesting guy instead: Mimic.

[Schmidty]

It would be far better if you embrace your unique talents Spiderman instead of merely worrying about humans. You could achieve so much, yet so many are holding you back.

HULK SMASH FANCY-PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Thomkal]

Well I'm very tempted to take the most useless superhero ever (and one of my favorites too), the super-translator Cypher, but instead will go with the slightly more useful Cannonball as it seems (from the wiki) he has some connection to Apocalypse.

[WVUFAN]

HULK SMASH FANCY-PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!

(hic) ... you're green. HAHAHAHA!! ... (hic)

[Poli]

Could someone give me two names to choose (from PM or post)? No need to explain who they are, as I don't follow this stuff. I'd like to be random, so 2 or a few more names so I can choose one would be great.

[Poli]

Got em.

I will be Daredevil. He's the blind Ben Affleck dude, right?

[Raiders Army]

Got em.

I will be Daredevil. He's the blind Ben Affleck dude, right?

*shudders*

[hoopsguy]

AE, I already listed a few for Chief via PM earlier so I won't repeat those. But here are some characters I have pre-generated along with short descriptions.

1.) Longshot - agile pretty boy, who is exceptionally lucky.
2.) Hank Pym - smart guy who has had numerous super hero identities. Most involve either growing or shrinking
3.) Mathemanic - don't know much about him, frankly. But he is extremely smart and has mental attack powers
4.) Nick Fury - old-school good guy, head of SHIELD the world's premier spy network
5.) Hobgoblin - kind of a Green Goblin rip-off, SpiderMan opponent. Uses a variety of high tech weapons. If you have seen SpiderMan movie (1st one) you have a feel for what this guy does
6.) Mr. Fantastic - smartest guy on planet, elastic body, head of Fantastic Four.
7.) Whizzer - super-fast guy
8.) Cyclops - long-time X-Men, straight man, married to Jean Grey. Has optic blast that shreds
9.) Captain America - epitome of regular human being, carries an unbreakable shield and is regarded as premier leader in Marvel comics

[Poli]

So, should I choose from those or stick with my guy?

[hoopsguy]

AE, whatever works. I'm fine with Daredevil - usually takes me about 10 minutes to create a new character and I should have done Daredevil already, but got lazy around Christmas :)

[Bonegavel]

I win. Logan can't die :D

[ntndeacon]

I am in and I choose Mandarin.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'd like to play. I'm not so sure how good I am at role play, though... maybe type casting would be a good idea. :)

Mathemanic looks interesting, and somewhat according to type.

[SackAttack]

Sure, hoops. I'm in. Captain America if he's still available. Johnny Blaze (Human Torch) otherwise.

[Abe Sargent]

Sure, hoops. I'm in. Captain America if he's still available. Johnny Blaze (Human Torch) otherwise.

Johnny Blaze is Ghost Rider. You are probably thinking of Johnny Storm, the FF Human Torch, but not the original Marvel Human Torch. (That one first appeared in Marvel Comics #1 in 1939 and is one of three classic Marvel WWII era heroes (With Captain America and Sub-Mariner being the other two))

-Anxiety

[WVUFAN]

Someone should be Namor.

[Thomkal]

Need a Dr. Strange too. So you can say stuff like "By the Eye of Agamattoo!"

[Raiders Army]

I win. Logan can't die :D

You'd better hope that Maggy doesn't suck the adamantium out of you again.

[Raiders Army]

AE, I already listed a few for Chief via PM earlier so I won't repeat those. But here are some characters I have pre-generated along with short descriptions.

1.) Longshot - agile pretty boy, who is exceptionally lucky.
2.) Hank Pym - smart guy who has had numerous super hero identities. Most involve either growing or shrinking
3.) Mathemanic - don't know much about him, frankly. But he is extremely smart and has mental attack powers
4.) Nick Fury - old-school good guy, head of SHIELD the world's premier spy network
5.) Hobgoblin - kind of a Green Goblin rip-off, SpiderMan opponent. Uses a variety of high tech weapons. If you have seen SpiderMan movie (1st one) you have a feel for what this guy does
6.) Mr. Fantastic - smartest guy on planet, elastic body, head of Fantastic Four.
7.) Whizzer - super-fast guy
8.) Cyclops - long-time X-Men, straight man, married to Jean Grey. Has optic blast that shreds
9.) Captain America - epitome of regular human being, carries an unbreakable shield and is regarded as premier leader in Marvel comics

I'm surprised that no one has taken Cable.

[hoopsguy]

Raiders, during the initial suggestions list there were a ton of people I was surprised to see as well as a few I was surprised were not suggested.

Personally, I would probably have gone with someone fairly obscure if the moderator was game - my choice probably would have been Spiral.

[Alan T]

Well speaking for myself, but it sounds like I am not alone.. I don't honestly know who any of these guys you are talking about are :) I know the people from the movies, and older cartoons (like Captain America, Spider man, Wolverine, etc). I never read comic books or anything. So 95% of the people you all talk about mean nothing to me :)

I honestly picked my char out of wikipedia after I moved chars to let someone who is a first timer or doesn't play as much be my original choice. Doesn't really matter what char I am to me :)

[LoneStarGirl]

I am so excited bout this game! ant and ardent and Bonegavel and Gi and sack attack and Thomkal and WVU! This could be interesting.

[gi]

I am so excited bout this game! ant and ardent and Bonegavel and Gi and sack attack and Thomkal and WVU! This could be interesting.

It bloody well better be! ;)

[GoldenEagle]

I will jump in if there is still room.

[hoopsguy]

Sure thing - just let me know what character you are looking to play.

[SnDvls]

Put me in..I just have to think of who I want to be since Longshot is taken.

[Tyrith]

Put me in..I just have to think of who I want to be since Longshot is taken.

Longshot actually isn't taken, according to the chart, so you could have him if you like.

EDIT: It was RA that took him and then gave him up so you could have him.

[LoneStarGirl]

Who are the two reserved spots for Hoops? And why are we waiting to begin on the 16th?

[Alan T]

Hoops won't be around at the end of this week for a few days, so his planned start date all along was next week. Its all good though, since Lathum's game is a good fill-in stop gap between Cronin's and hoops schedule wise :)

[Tyrith]

Who are the two reserved spots for Hoops? And why are we waiting to begin on the 16th?

Further, the roles (characters) for this game are more detailed than in any other game I've seen, in terms of each player having multiple things they can do. We're going to spend a couple of days creating the characters that weren't requested previously, finalizing the designs and balance, and working things out in general.

[hoopsguy]

LSG, I will keep the reserved spots close to the vest for now - they are for people who have played in previous games that haven't been around in awhile and are considering the timing of this game and (to some extent) their interest in getting back in the WW mix.

We aren't going to be starting until next week because I'm going to be in Las Vegas from the 12th to 15th. I'll get in on the 15th and promptly sleep like crazy. I'll then look to send roles out on the 16th (Tuesday) with the intent for Day 1 deadline to be Wednesday evening.

Although Tyrith is helping me with moderating this game, there is going to be a ton of work initially sending out 25 unique PMs with more data than the average PM, as well as more player/mod PMs than most games. Finally, there is more stuff to track in terms of use of powers, health, and energy for each of the characters. The whole idea of bringing a co-moderator in was to make sure we were properly tracking everything in a game that had more moving parts than most. Given that notion, I don't think it would be fair to dump the start of the game on him and pick it back up on Day 4 or wherever it would be when I get back in town.

[spleen1015]

I'm cool with waiting until next week since Nerds will be kicking off tonight.

[Alan T]

LSG, I will keep the reserved spots close to the vest for now - they are for people who have played in previous games that haven't been around in awhile and are considering the timing of this game and (to some extent) their interest in getting back in the WW mix.

We aren't going to be starting until next week because I'm going to be in Las Vegas from the 12th to 15th. I'll get in on the 15th and promptly sleep like crazy. I'll then look to send roles out on the 16th (Tuesday) with the intent for Day 1 deadline to be Wednesday evening.

Although Tyrith is helping me with moderating this game, there is going to be a ton of work initially sending out 25 unique PMs with more data than the average PM, as well as more player/mod PMs than most games. Finally, there is more stuff to track in terms of use of powers, health, and energy for each of the characters. The whole idea of bringing a co-moderator in was to make sure we were properly tracking everything in a game that had more moving parts than most. Given that notion, I don't think it would be fair to dump the start of the game on him and pick it back up on Day 4 or wherever it would be when I get back in town.


Sounds like the perfect thing to do. Make him do the tough work, and you swoop in to take all the praise and credit at the end!

Get to work Tyrith!

[Tyrith]

I don't have hoops comic book knowledge and such to finish off the character designs or do the PMs anyway. My role is mostly working on rules, balancing, and then keeping track of all the numbers that are going to come up. I think the way hoops has made the game is going to make it fairly intuitive to the players, because it uses a lot of standard concepts, but there are going to be a LOT of moving parts, so hoops and I need to both be ready. Trust me, it'll be worth the wait :)

[hoopsguy]

In terms of comic book knowledge, mine is a bit dated at this point - probably about ten years back. I've spent time researching the requested characters on Wikipedia to make sure I'm at least a little bit knowledgeable on recent events.

For the people who are well-versed on their requested character, I'm very willing to listen to your input during the game on what kind of writing I should do pertaining to those heroes. And I will do my best to faithfully represent the Marvel universe, but it will not necessarily match current events (Civil War, House of M, etc). So consider this to be yet another parallel universe if that makes it easier to grasp - one that probably rewards the comic book fan knowledge, but will punish them if they rely on it as an absolute. After all, deep down this is a werewolf game :)

[SnDvls]

Longshot actually isn't taken, according to the chart, so you could have him if you like.

EDIT: It was RA that took him and then gave him up so you could have him.

ahh hadn't seen that
thanks RA and Tyrith for pointing it out

I'll be Longshot then

also - if our "names" are known then ultimitally our powers are known as well so wouldn't one think that someone like Prof. X being able to read minds ect. might be a prime person for the 4 horsemen to pick off.
hoops I hope you have something in place for this ;)

[hoopsguy]

SnDvls - I understand that people are going to have expectations for what powers people have based on the comics. I can assure you that I do not have everyone with powers that most-closely match the "first thought comes to mind" with people.

For example, what if people had requested Professor X, Jean Grey, Cable, Psylocke, Rachel Summers, and Shadow Master? Would I really be putting six seers in the game?

Similarly, I need to keep the powers somewhat balanced and in a format that will work for a game of werewolf.

So, the end result of this is that people will know your character and will probably make assumptions about your powers. In many, many cases, those assumptions would be off-base.

[hoopsguy]

Related thought - that people know who you are and might be picked to be bad because of perceived abilities:

Yep, and that should make for interesting Day 1 conversations :)

[SackAttack]

Johnny Blaze is Ghost Rider. You are probably thinking of Johnny Storm, the FF Human Torch, but not the original Marvel Human Torch. (That one first appeared in Marvel Comics #1 in 1939 and is one of three classic Marvel WWII era heroes (With Captain America and Sub-Mariner being the other two))

-Anxiety

You're right. I meant Storm, but the whole fire thing made me think 'Blaze.'

[Schmidty]

SnDvls - I understand that people are going to have expectations for what powers people have based on the comics. I can assure you that I do not have everyone with powers that most-closely match the "first thought comes to mind" with people.

For example, what if people had requested Professor X, Jean Grey, Cable, Psylocke, Rachel Summers, and Shadow Master? Would I really be putting six seers in the game?

Similarly, I need to keep the powers somewhat balanced and in a format that will work for a game of werewolf.

So, the end result of this is that people will know your character and will probably make assumptions about your powers. In many, many cases, those assumptions would be off-base.


Do I get to at least be strong and angry? :)

[hoopsguy]

Schmidty, I can't let the cat out of the bad quite yet :) But it would be pretty bizarre to make you wimpy and placid.

I'll go as far as to say that after creating 30+ characters before the game and since requests started going up that there are some that I think are very cool and others that I'm less enthusiastic about how they translate. But I don't think there is any that are inherently useless, and most of them offer multiple paths on how to carry out their day/night actions.

Tyrith and I have privately been rooting for one of the characters to get taken because we both like him so much :) But so far, no luck.

[LoneStarGirl]

What do you think about my character Hoops? I am not in love with it and can change if you want me to

[hoopsguy]

LSG, honestly that is not one of the ones I have made up yet. There are about four left that I'm looking to complete between now and Friday morning.

I'm not trying to encourage anyone to switch characters at all with my comments. Just trying to give a little insight into the process since there was a question raised about how knowing powers would impact the game.

Plus, I'll probably re-use concepts from some of the guys I pre-generated that are not in the game. I don't think I'll let any clever ideas rot on my computer instead of finding some way to cram them into the game.

[Eaglesfan27]

I really like the idea of a role playing game and am very hopeful that this game will have a strong role playing element. I'm also a major sucker for the Marvel Universe. Since, I just finished the project that I had to have done for work (which I thought I might be working on still next week) and am fairly sure that I'll have enough time to dedicate (although I will have somewhat limited availability on Monday night once I leave work, and from 8:00 to 4:30 PM Central Time on Tuesday and Weds due to limited computer access on those days at work) to be an active participant, I'll join this game. Sunfire might be very fun to roleplay, but he is something of a loner due to his arrogance. Therefore, I'll go with a more team oriented guy - Iceman.

[WVUFAN]

Sunfire might be very fun to roleplay, but he is something of a loner due to his arrogance.

Oddly enough, in the comics, Sunfire is one of the new Horsemen -- Pestillance, along with Polaris and Gambit.

[Alan T]

I really like the idea of a role playing game and am very hopeful that this game will have a strong role playing element. I'm also a major sucker for the Marvel Universe. Since, I just finished the project that I had to have done for work (which I thought I might be working on still next week) and am fairly sure that I'll have enough time to dedicate (although I will have somewhat limited availability on Monday night once I leave work, and from 8:00 to 4:30 PM Central Time on Tuesday and Weds due to limited computer access on those days at work) to be an active participant, I'll join this game. Sunfire might be very fun to roleplay, but he is something of a loner due to his arrogance. Therefore, I'll go with a more team oriented guy - Iceman.

I don't think I've played a game with you since the one where we were brothers and you got night killed on night 1 which ended up getting me killed too :)

Glad to have you in again!

[Raiders Army]

What do you think about my character Hoops? I am not in love with it and can change if you want me to

To me, Storm is a very boring character; moreso because of Halle Berry and the neutering she gave the character in the X-Men movies. Shadowcat is a much more interesting character and has a great defensive power.

[LoneStarGirl]

I will take suggestions from anybody.. I am not set on Storm. and Raiders Army is right about Halle Berry. although I did only see Xmen 1

[WVUFAN]

I will take suggestions from anybody.. I am not set on Storm. and Raiders Army is right about Halle Berry. although I did only see Xmen 1

My favorite female Marvel character has always been Psylocke. That's just me, though.

For what it's worth -- Marvel has it's own Wiki, with pictures of most of the major (and minor) characters in the Marvel universe. Here's the link for all the entries for women in the wiki:

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Category:Women

[Abe Sargent]

If someone is Scarlet Witch can they retcon the entire game?

:)


-Anxiety

[WVUFAN]

If someone is Scarlet Witch can they retcon the entire game?

:)


-Anxiety

"No ... More ... WEREWOLVES!!"

[hoopsguy]

If someone is Scarlet Witch can they retcon the entire game?

:)


-Anxiety

Not on my watch :cool:

[Anthony]

i would be in this bad game but i don't know how Longshot's power would translate into a role playing game, and i don't have availability on the internet from 9-5:20pm M-F. otherwise if someone wanted to to clue me in on how Longshot could fit in this i would do it.

[LoneStarGirl]

I think somebody already got Longshot and most people can't get on during their work hours so that isn't a problem

[hoopsguy]

i would be in this bad game but i don't know how Longshot's power would translate into a role playing game, and i don't have availability on the internet from 9-5:20pm M-F. otherwise if someone wanted to to clue me in on how Longshot could fit in this i would do it.

Longshot's powers, like many of the characters in the comics, do not exactly translate from the comics to this format ... there are obviously some limits when moving from an environment (comics) with almost unlimited boundaries to an online game with a necessary amount of structure. Obviously there are some "lucky" elements associated with them ...

The evening deadline is likely going to be 9PM CST, so that should leave plenty of time for you to take in the action (assuming that we don't have 500+ posts per day) and react accordingly. The morning deadline will be 6AM CST.

[Barkeep49]

I like it when games are on Central time. I don't know, having said that, what it means that I always put my games on Eastern time.

[Lathum]

I'll be an alternate. And I am very glad to see some new blood as well as a couple of guys who have played a couple of games.

[Chief Rum]

I would like to take Gambit.

[Eaglesfan27]

I don't think I've played a game with you since the one where we were brothers and you got night killed on night 1 which ended up getting me killed too :)

Glad to have you in again!


Yeah, that was unfortunate. Warpath is a very interesting character and I'll be interested in seeing how you play him. Should be fun :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Oddly enough, in the comics, Sunfire is one of the new Horsemen -- Pestillance, along with Polaris and Gambit.


I know. Didn't want anyone killing me early because of that association ;)

[hoopsguy]

Oddly enough, in the comics, Sunfire is one of the new Horsemen -- Pestillance, along with Polaris and Gambit.

I know. Didn't want anyone killing me early because of that association ;)

I would like to take Gambit.


Hmmm ....

[Thomkal]

I will take suggestions from anybody.. I am not set on Storm. and Raiders Army is right about Halle Berry. although I did only see Xmen 1

I personally like Storm LSG, but she can be a bit bland on the personality side. Other fun female characters to play that come to mind are Shadowcat, Rogue, Emma Frost (if you want to be b*tchy and get away with it), She-Hulk, and Invisible Woman. Or you could go for the obscure and go with my fav Marvel character, Photon :)

[Raiders Army]

Or you could go for the obscure and go with my fav Marvel character, Photon :)

Captain Marvel right? Monica Rambaneu or something? Ugh. She was an interesting character that was mishandled. She was easily the most powerful Avenger, but the writers didn't take advantage of her powers.

[hoopsguy]

I seem to recall Anxiety being a fan of Captain Marvel as well.

[Eaglesfan27]

I personally like Storm LSG, but she can be a bit bland on the personality side. Other fun female characters to play that come to mind are Shadowcat, Rogue, Emma Frost (if you want to be b*tchy and get away with it), She-Hulk, and Invisible Woman. Or you could go for the obscure and go with my fav Marvel character, Photon :)

Just don't try to take over my body if you are Emma Frost.

[Lorena]

...Emma Frost (if you want to be b*tchy and get away with it)...

Oh that sounds like fun, shouldn't be much of a stretch for LSG.

Here's my smilie so you know I'm joking, you know I luv ya ;)

[Raiders Army]

I hate to be mercurial, but can I change my guy? I know you've probably rolled him already, but I think I'd rather be Deadpool. Although his powers wouldn't necessarily be as fun, I think it'd be more fun to roleplay. If not, no biggie.

[Raiders Army]

Hey, also it might be a little more interesting if we all created new board names reflecting our character. Too bad I didn't come up with that sooner: we could've signed up, PMed our choice of character to hoops and Tyrith, gotten their approval, created our alter ego, and played from there. It would be interesting to see how we would act, not knowing who was who and playing entirely in character.

[Barkeep49]

Hey, also it might be a little more interesting if we all created new board names reflecting our character. Too bad I didn't come up with that sooner: we could've signed up, PMed our choice of character to hoops and Tyrith, gotten their approval, created our alter ego, and played from there. It would be interesting to see how we would act, not knowing who was who and playing entirely in character.
That's actually an interesting mechanic I've thought about using in a similar way in the past. One thing that has prevented me from really doing it was the idea that it would be a pain the ass for those people who do more on this board than simply play WW.

[Tyrith]

RA, I think that will be fine. 95% percent sure. If it isn't, I'll let you know later.

[Raiders Army]

Thanks.

[Abe Sargent]

I seem to recall Anxiety being a fan of Captain Marvel as well.


Hell yes, great character, she was Roger Stern's baby and he was fired from the Avengers because he didn't want to write a certain plotline involved her and Mark Gruenwald did.

She was the leader of the Avengers and had been with them for virtually all of Stern's run, which was years and years. She was a competant leader, and Gruenwald wanted to write her in a plotline as a bad writer and that would force Captain America to come back to the team and force out Monica Rambeau and take over the team again.

Of course, Gruenwald was writing Captain America at the time as well as editing, so he had a vested interest in bringing back Cap. Sales of his book were flagging a bit and he thought bringing Cap back to the Avengers would pick up sales. Stern refused to and Gruenwald replaced him in the middle of a plotline.

Interesting story that.

How you remembered that is amazing!

-Anxiety


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/27/Captain_Marvel_special_1.jpg/393px-Captain_Marvel_special_1.jpg

[LoneStarGirl]

Oh that sounds like fun, shouldn't be much of a stretch for LSG.

Here's my smilie so you know I'm joking, you know I luv ya ;)

Its okay DC, I was thinking the same thing :)

[LoneStarGirl]

Oh so is captain marvel a woman? I have always dreamed of being a captain of something. Tyrith can I be Captain Marvel? please please please please please :D

[Tyrith]

Hoops said the name, so he's obviously heard of it, so yes.

[Raiders Army]

What was goofy was that I think she took the moniker Captain from being a policewoman, IIRC. Not only that, but her costume was from a Mardi Gras something-or-other...later unstable molecules courtesy of Reed Richards. I believe her origin was Amazing Spider-Man Annual #16 or something. I remember I bought it and thought the best part was when Iron Man sucked out her power and shot it into the sky. I always wondered what happened to the blasts that came out of his gauntlets. I took a flashlight outside at night and pretended it was the same thing.






What a nerd.
















*shrug*

[Abe Sargent]

What was goofy was that I think she took the moniker Captain from being a policewoman, IIRC. Not only that, but her costume was from a Mardi Gras something-or-other...later unstable molecules courtesy of Reed Richards. I believe her origin was Amazing Spider-Man Annual #16 or something. I remember I bought it and thought the best part was when Iron Man sucked out her power and shot it into the sky. I always wondered what happened to the blasts that came out of his gauntlets. I took a flashlight outside at night and pretended it was the same thing.






What a nerd.
















*shrug*


Actually, the name came from the media which started calling her that in the press. She was in the Harbor Guard if I remember correctly. Later she'll actually be a ship captain and whatnot.

-Anxiety

[hoopsguy]

Updating the two character changes for Raiders and LSG. Both are fine. Will be putting some time in tomorrow morning on characters before heading out to Vegas.

[Raiders Army]

Have fun at the pron convention! ;)

[Bonegavel]

What I don't like about Marvel is that their name was ripped off of DC's Captain Marvel and then they trademarked the character even though it was already in use (which is why DC had to call their new Captain Marvel book Trials of Shazam). That's just shitty.

[Raiders Army]

What I don't like about Marvel is that their name was ripped off of DC's Captain Marvel and then they trademarked the character even though it was already in use (which is why DC had to call their new Captain Marvel book Trials of Shazam). That's just shitty.

Just ripping off the name isn't too bad. It's not like they were the same characters. Just off the top of my head, Deadpool was probably a worse ripoff of Deathblow (Wade Wilson vs. Slade Wilson). Squadron Sinister, later Supreme, was a ripoff of the JLA.

It's not like DC didn't ripoff Marvel either. Remember when Wolverine became Marvel's most popular character (about the time his miniseries came out). DC started making its characters grittier like Batman.

[Bonegavel]

Just ripping off the name isn't too bad. It's not like they were the same characters. Just off the top of my head, Deadpool was probably a worse ripoff of Deathblow (Wade Wilson vs. Slade Wilson). Squadron Sinister, later Supreme, was a ripoff of the JLA.

It's not like DC didn't ripoff Marvel either. Remember when Wolverine became Marvel's most popular character (about the time his miniseries came out). DC started making its characters grittier like Batman.

right, but DC didn't create a character called Wolverine or make a new comic studio called Wolverine.

DC can't use the title Captain Marvel because Marvel has the proper trademark and that to me is just shitty.

I know both studios have their issues and have swapped the "who can be dickier" title back and forth over the years, but I just think it was petty to do that with a character name. Sure, DC let the Captain Marvel name dwindle into obscurity, but it was still their name.

[Bonegavel]

dola, actually it was Fawcette that screwed up on the Captain Marvel lapse and later DC grabbed the rights to him but couldn't use the name.

[Thomkal]

Oh so is captain marvel a woman? I have always dreamed of being a captain of something. Tyrith can I be Captain Marvel? please please please please please :D

wow didn't think you'd go for it LSG. I guess I can't vote for you on Day 1 now. ;)

Yeah she's a very underused character since she left the Avengers, which is a shame given how powerful she is. Always hated that Captain Marvel moniker though, I'm not sure Photon is better though, lol. Was reading on the wiki about her and she might be changing her name to Pulsar because apparantly the "real" Captain Marvel or Marvel Boy is calling himself Photon now. I think Pulsar is an even worse choice for her.

[ntndeacon]

At least Photon is a beter name than Binary. At least Ithink that was Ms Marvels latest name. Carol Danvers has been through a lot of names as well.

[LoneStarGirl]

So I am Captain Marvel! Woohoo. Now somebody has to let me know what she does and how i can act like her

[Abe Sargent]

At least Photon is a beter name than Binary. At least Ithink that was Ms Marvels latest name. Carol Danvers has been through a lot of names as well.

Nah, Warbird is more recent that Binary and now she's back to Ms Marvel.


-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

So I am Captain Marvel! Woohoo. Now somebody has to let me know what she does and how i can act like her

She basically has three powers each revolving around the same power:


She can turn her body into any form of energy on the electromagnetic spectrum. She can turn into light, electricity, x-rays, heat, gamma rays, etc. As a consequence of this, she can also fire bursts of what she has turned into and she can absorb what she has turned into.

Therefore, she can turn into light and then move at that speed, making her by default the fastest character in the Marvel universe, btw. She can turn into various rays and move through walls and whatnot. She can melt metal, like people's guns. She can turn herself into a hologram so that bullets and whatnot go right through her, then solidfy as she throws a punch, then immediately go back to a hologram and the opponent won;t even know - just think their bullets went through her and she still punched him without any obvious change in appearance.

So, that's her. She's pretty powerful, and when she is written correctly, her powers are very, very staggering.

-Anxiety

[LoneStarGirl]

So, that's her. She's pretty powerful, and when she is written correctly, her powers are very, very staggering.

-Anxiety

Hoopsguy, you heard the man. Make me powerful!

[Thomkal]

LSG, here's her Wiki entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Rambeau

[WVUFAN]

The original Captain Marvel was a man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_%28Marvel_Comics%29

When I was a kid, I collected EVERYTHING related to Captain Marvel (the Marvel version, not Shazam). I loved the story, the art, everything. When I was 8 or 9, my parents went to a book store and found a thick Captain Marvel book, and not realizing what it really meant, they bought it for me as a stocking stuffer.

It was called "The Death of Captain Marvel", and in it he died of cancer. Again, I think I was 8, and I was horrified. Threw the book in the fire, if I remember right. :)

To this day, it's the only major Marvel character that has never been brought back to life.

[GoldenEagle]

What are my options in terms of a character?

[Raiders Army]

What are my options in terms of a character?

I believe either hero or villan. If you wanna go with power, I'd go with Franklin Richards, maybe the most powerful person in the Marvel multiverse; roleplaywise, he's a little kid. :)

Rick Jones is a pretty good character, but no powers (unless you count when he got powers from the Supreme Intelligence or the Leader).

[Raiders Army]

Also, for you four-color nerds out there here is a pretty good resource:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=134196

[WVUFAN]

I believe either hero or villan. If you wanna go with power, I'd go with Franklin Richards, maybe the most powerful person in the Marvel multiverse; roleplaywise, he's a little kid. :)

Rick Jones is a pretty good character, but no powers (unless you count when he got powers from the Supreme Intelligence or the Leader).

If he allows for dead characters, the Molecule Man was pretty powerful, especially after Secret Wars.

Yeah, I'm a geek... :)

[Talgian]

I'd like to sign up, although I'm not sure what hero to play.

-Talgian

[Raiders Army]

If he allows for dead characters, the Molecule Man was pretty powerful, especially after Secret Wars.

Yeah, I'm a geek... :)

Owen Reece was nothing compared to the Beyonder (before he got neutered that is). Bah, Wolverine almost took the Molecule Man out in Secret Wars and Captain Marvel got through his force shield. Not only that but he was pussy whipped by Volcana.

Now Death on the other hand...she had Thanos pussy whipped.

Oh, and I think Thanos was a blatant ripoff of Darkseid. ;)

[WVUFAN]

Owen Reece was nothing compared to the Beyonder (before he got neutered that is). Bah, Wolverine almost took the Molecule Man out in Secret Wars and Captain Marvel got through his force shield. Not only that but he was pussy whipped by Volcana.

Now Death on the other hand...she had Thanos pussy whipped.

Oh, and I think Thanos was a blatant ripoff of Darkseid. ;)

FULL Geek mode:

I might be fuzzy on the details, but near the end of Secret Wars, Owen Reece's power got "unlocked" and instead of just controlling molecules of nonliving things, he had control of pretty much ALL molecules .. ie, he could, if he wanted, just disperse Wolverine by unlinking his molecules ... or turn him into a flower if he wanted.

Now the character was a hugh wimp, so Wolvie could probably say "BOO!" and give the poor guy a heart attack, but his powers were nearly infinite. I think he was killed by the Beyonder in Secret Wars II.

I agree with you totally about Thanos. :)

[Tyrith]

Talgian, we're full on players at the moment, so we'll sign you up as an alternate.

Golden Eagle, you can choose pretty much not already used character from the Marvel Comics universe, although we maintain veto power in case of something crazy. From a list hoops used, here are some characters already available along with descriptions.

From hoopsguy:

Venom - bad guy, absolutely obsessed with SpiderMan. Many similar qualities, but is more powerful than him and over the top cruel/evil.

Dr. Doom - badass Fantastic Four villain. Ruler of a small country. Genius with a armored suit, like Iron Man. Total egomaniac. Totally power-hungry. Willing to take part of a team effort to further his own goals, but very much an individualist. Playing him in character as a good guy could be a lot of fun, I think.

Grim Reaper - Avengers enemy with funky costume and a scythe as his main weapon. Can project energy blasts through the scythe. Former mob character who has become involved with the occult later in his career.

Juggernaut - super strong and invulnerable, enemy of X-Man and half-brother of Professor X. Not the sharpest bulb, but how much does that matter when you can almost never be hurt?

Vision - android, has power of intangibility, allowing himself to be transparent or tough as a diamond. Pretty strong, has a laser attack as well. Another smart guy. In many instances in comics he is emotionless.

There is one guy on this list hoops and I really really want in the game, but I'm not saying who.

[WVUFAN]

Can I change my character from Iron Man to Doctor Doom? I figure the stats would be similar.

[Tyrith]

Sure WVU.

[Tyrith]

For GE, Iron Man is another ready made character we have available that is pretty cool.

[Eaglesfan27]

Agreed about Iron Man being cool. He would have been my pick if he hadn't already been taken.

[Tyrith]

Eagle, hoops hasn't actually made Iceman yet, so if you want to switch and take Iron Man that wouldn't be a problem at all.

[Raiders Army]

Jesus, we're going to have well over 5 pages before the game even starts!

[Barkeep49]

This might be another good game to start a seperate game play thread.

[Alan T]

But this way it looks like I'm playing under the radar :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Eagle, hoops hasn't actually made Iceman yet, so if you want to switch and take Iron Man that wouldn't be a problem at all.


Ok, in that case, I will switch. :)

Iron Man was my favorite when I was a kid.

[Lorena]

But this way it looks like I'm playing under the radar :)

ROFL

YOU?! Under the radar?!

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/chairfall.gif

[Tyrith]

A minor change in the roster :) Talgian has been given the last reserved slot, so we are now really truly full at 25.

[GoldenEagle]

Juggernaut is the character who interests me the most. I will take him if I can.

[Alan T]

A minor change in the roster :) Talgian has been given the last reserved slot, so we are now really truly full at 25.


Sweet, welcome back Second officer Talgian!

[Raiders Army]

Just so everyone knows, I will be out of the net until late Thursday night. I'm in LA from Tuesday through Thursday.

[Tyrith]

GE is now Juggernaut. Now waiting for a character from Talgian to set the final roster. Characters will probably be frozen tomorrow afternoon, so if you have had a last minute change of heart, let us know now.

[LoneStarGirl]

This game is going to be a lot to catch up on if you miss a day.... or even half a day. Will everything be sent out tomorrow and we start Tuesday?

[Swaggs]

I just got back in town and haven't read through all this yet, but I'm willing to give it a go if there is room.

[Tyrith]

Swaggs is now alternate 2.

No. PMs tomorrow night, then there will be a full day to ask questions, then roll on Wednesday. At least, I'm fairly certain that's the schedule hoops laid out for me before he left.

[Tyrith]

Before the game goes I also plan to have a post highlighting key rules & rules differences, because this is going to be fairly complex.

[Talgian]

Well, it took me a while to find a good fit (I'm mostly a DC guy), but Mister Sinister will be a most enjoyable character to play. Please form an orderly queue whilst I draw blood.

-Talgian

[ntndeacon]

cool! another villian.

[Bonegavel]

Just so everyone knows, I will be out of the net until late Thursday night. I'm in LA from Tuesday through Thursday.

You man-about-town you.

[Tyrith]

Antmeister is withdrawing from the game. Lathum will be taking his place. Lathum is free to make his own character choice.

[Lathum]

Antmeister is withdrawing from the game. Lathum will be taking his place. Lathum is free to make his own character choice.

someone help me out here

[path12]

I'm happy that Talgian is joining us again, and it cracks me up that he now has officially 0 posts.

[path12]

someone help me out here

Sorry, I don't know any of these guys either. My choice was just a stab in the dark.

[Tyrith]

For public information, the premades available:

Venom
Vision
Grim Reaper
Henry Pym
Nick Fury
Hobgoblin
Mr. Fantastic
Whizzer
Cyclops
Nightcrawler

[Raiders Army]

You man-about-town you.

If I get any pix with celebs, I'll post em in this thread. :)

[Raiders Army]

For public information, the premades available:

Venom
Vision
Grim Reaper
Henry Pym
Nick Fury
Hobgoblin
Mr. Fantastic
Whizzer
Cyclops
Nightcrawler

I believe J. Michael Stryzinski (sp?) said that he went with Blur instead of Whizzer because of...well, you know.

You could probably use the same template for Whizzer for Quicksilver as well.

[LoneStarGirl]

Awww what happened to Antmiester? And dodgerchick really wanted to play but didn't because he was in it.

[Lorena]

Awww what happened to Antmiester? And dodgerchick really wanted to play but didn't because he was in it.

Yeah I didn't hold my end of the bargain so he withdrew. It's alright, I'll catch the next game.

*sniffle sniffle*

[spleen1015]

Dodgerchick can have my spot if she wants.

[Grammaticus]

For some reason if a few openings come up or a few drop out, can you put me down as an alternate?

[Tyrith]

Gram is now alternate two.

[Blade6119]

Well I think DC held the spot first, then gave it up to antmeister. So really, isnt the spot still hers to some extent? Im not trying to keep lathum out of the game, just noting DC originally signed up then gave her spot up for ant.

I dont know how Hoops and tyrith want to handle it though

[Tyrith]

Well I think DC held the spot first, then gave it up to antmeister. So really, isnt the spot still hers to some extent? Im not trying to keep lathum out of the game, just noting DC originally signed up then gave her spot up for ant.

I dont know how Hoops and tyrith want to handle it though

Rightfully, I can't give it up to her because she wasn't on the alternate list. I have to play by the rules, even though you are probably right. That said, spleen offered his spot, so she can take that one if she likes.

[LoneStarGirl]

What was your part of the deal Dodgerchick? :eek:

[Lathum]

ARG. Give someone my spot please

[hoopsguy]

OK, sounds like there are a couple of roster updates to do here.

Flights back from Vegas got pushed way back because of weather, so I'm running a day behind here. Which means that roles will be sent out Wednesday night with Day 1 beginning that evening and a deadline Thursday at 10 PM EST.

[hoopsguy]

Also, I'll catch up with Dodgerchick and Grammaticus about the final spot tomorrow to get that nailed down, since Lathum is deferring.

Thanks to Tyrith for keeping things moving along on this while I was out. Vegas was good :)

[Lorena]

I should have signed up as an alternate, my bust. Put me on as the last alternate as it wouldn't be fair to either Lathum or Grammaticus, they signed up first.

I'm totally cool with it. Thanks Blade, that's why I luv ya ;)

[hoopsguy]

Err, DC and Swaggs, as Gramm was behind Swaggs in the list (thanks, Tyrith).

Also, if anyone does have any conflicts with timing please let me know ASAP as we do have alternates lined up. I defintely want all the original signees in if the altered schedule works for them.

[Raiders Army]

The altered schedule works for me quite well. Be advised, I will be flying back to El Paso at 10:30 PM EST so I will not be able to make the first vote. If that's okay, I'll stay in. If not, then I'll defer to an alternate.

There is the slim possibility that I can make the 12:30 PM flight if the conference is over early. In that case, I should be home by 7-8 PM EST.

[Lorena]

What was your part of the deal Dodgerchick? :eek:

lol, nothing like what you think. It's actually quite boring; I had to read one of his books, that's it.

[Tyrith]

Missing the first day should be okay as long as you're able to catch up, as it should be fairly interesting as people figure out what they're capable of.

[Raiders Army]

Missing the first day should be okay as long as you're able to catch up, as it should be fairly interesting as people figure out what they're capable of.

Roger. Thanks!

[SnDvls]

Hoops & Tyrith

I'm going to have to bow out
I won't have as much free time as I had
originally thought. Please give my spot
to someone else.

sorry and thanks.

[Tyrith]

Gramm is now in the game.

[hoopsguy]

I sent a PM to Gramm to make sure that he is able to play with the updated schedule and to ask him to select a character.

Also, Longshot is available - I believe there was another person or two potentially interested in playing him for this game.

On the topic of character selection, I would ask that any changes are finalized by today at 6PM EST. I'll be putting together the final balance for character roles, as well as sending a PM to Apocalypse (as determined by random.org) to make his selections for his four horsemen after that time.

[Blade6119]

If Gramm is taking sndvls' spot, who is taking spot #7?

[Alan T]

I would like to formally request that I be given spot #3 and Barkeep can have his choice of either Spot #6 or #7. 3 Has been my lucky number for as long as I can remember, and was the number I always wore playing baseball growing up. (As Dale Murphy was my favorite baseball player and he wore #3).

I hope you will consider this request as serious as it is and perform the proper due dilligence that this deserves.

Thanks in advance,

The Lawfirm of Jacobs, Turner, Goldman and Epstein

[Tyrith]

The spot Antmeister vacated should go to Swaggs.

[path12]

I would like to formally request that I be given spot #3 and Barkeep can have his choice of either Spot #6 or #7. 3 Has been my lucky number for as long as I can remember, and was the number I always wore playing baseball growing up. (As Dale Murphy was my favorite baseball player and he wore #3).

I hope you will consider this request as serious as it is and perform the proper due dilligence that this deserves.

Thanks in advance,

The Lawfirm of Jacobs, Turner, Goldman and Epstein

That explains all the day 3 deaths. ;)

[Lorena]

I would like to formally request that I be given spot #3 and Barkeep can have his choice of either Spot #6 or #7. 3 Has been my lucky number for as long as I can remember, and was the number I always wore playing baseball growing up. (As Dale Murphy was my favorite baseball player and he wore #3).

I hope you will consider this request as serious as it is and perform the proper due dilligence that this deserves.

Thanks in advance,

The Lawfirm of Jacobs, Turner, Goldman and Epstein

So when you see a new game thread do you wait until the 3rd spot is open?

[Swaggs]

I had to work late and didn't get your PM until just a bit ago, hoops. If my request is too difficult, from a balance standpoint, you can just give me one of the "stock" characters you have already been working on.

[hoopsguy]

Swaggs, Storm is fine.

I also got a PM from Gramm, who is taking Venom. So that fills up the list.

Dodgerchick and Lathum remain as alternates in the event that there are any late-breaking participation issues. PMs should go out tomorrow early evening and a new thread will be started for the game.

[Swaggs]

Hmmm... just read through the thread and feel a little less great about choosing Storm. :)

[LoneStarGirl]

I am ready to start!

[hoopsguy]

Just about there myself :)

I'm going to go through one final walkthrough of roles with Tyrith this afternoon and begin sending out PMs. So we may actually get started late afternoon instead of early evening, if scheduling works out nicely.

[spleen1015]

Apocalypse knows who he is at this point and he has selected his 4 horsemen, right?

[ntndeacon]

Let's get ready to Rumble! I have missed this over the Christmas break.

[hoopsguy]

Apocalypse knows who he is at this point and he has selected his 4 horsemen, right?

Maybe :confused::eek:;)