The Oscars Thread

[cthomer5000]

I'm a big movie fan so i'll be watching as much as i can tonight, and i imagine a lot of others will be too.

I've seen all the major nominated films (yes, even The Devil Wears Prada), so here are my thoughts:

should win = my pick
will win = my actual prediction of what the academy will do

Best Picture
should win: The Departed
will win: The Departed

Best Director
should win: Scorcese
will win: Clint Eastwood

Best Original Screenplay
should win: Letters From Iwo Jima
will win: Letters From Iwo Jima

Best Adapted Screenplay
should win: The Departed
will win: The Departed

Best Actor
should win: Forest Whitaker*
will win: Forest Whitaker

* I would pick Leo for The Departed, but he was nominated for the wrong f'ing movie.

Best Actress
should win: Judi Dench
will win: Helen Mirren

Best Supporting Actor
should win: Djimon Honsou
will win: Eddie Murphy

Best Supporting Actress
should win: Cate Blanchett
will win: Jennifer Hudson

[Lathum]

the intro is kind of drawn out

[Lathum]

dola- since I have no idea who half these people are

[cthomer5000]

dola- since I have no idea who half these people are

I have no problem with actually making this night about movies, rather than celebrity masterbation.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Just enjoying the HD.

[cthomer5000]

Hmm, they historically had opened with one of the supporting actor/tress categories (something the average joe would view as a "real" category)... interesting that they changed that up this time around.

[Schmidty]

I hate opinions.

[cthomer5000]

Glad to see some love for Pan's Labyrinth, since it's likely to get shutdown in all major categories. Very good movie.

[Lathum]

That was friggin awesome!!

[MJ4H]

quit acting like you've seen all these damn movies

;)

[Easy Mac]

Good god, Del Toro has freaking magnifying glasses on his eyes.? Wait, which one did Pan's Labrynth?

[Easy Mac]

I think that guy just said fuck

[cthomer5000]

glad to see she corrected the Penelope Cruz = mexican comment.. i cringed at the time she said it, thinking it was pretty unbelievable they'd make a mistake like that in the opening, and in reference to a major nominee.

[Easy Mac]

i see jessica beal's areolas

[Easy Mac]

that was relatively unexpected. Norbit did Eddie in.

[Young Drachma]

Norbit indeed. Maybe he'll learn from that...but I doubt it.

[cartman]

that was relatively unexpected. Norbit did Eddie in.

That might portend an run of awards for 'Little Miss Sunshine'

[cthomer5000]

Eddie's last decade of movies did him in.

[Young Drachma]

That might portend an run of awards for 'Little Miss Sunshine'

I was thinking that. There sure was a lot of love for that movie and Hollywood loves to make itself feel like it's progressive. Though Jennifer Hudson winning for Best Supporting Actress will likely be the most predictable moment of the night.

[MJ4H]

If that Melissa Ethridge song wins best song there will be carnage in my neighborhood.

[Easy Mac]

Did anyone else think that Melissa Etheridge looked like Hillary Clinton... I mean I know they're both lesbians, but she could find a better looking lesbian to look like.

Gore has gotten huge.

And I hope LMS doesn't keep winning awards. Of all the quirky indie movies, it was easily the least intriguing of them.

[Young Drachma]

Did anyone else think that Melissa Etheridge looked like Hillary Clinton... I mean I know they're both lesbians, but she could find a better looking lesbian to look like.

Gore has gotten huge.

And I hope LMS doesn't keep winning awards. Of all the quirky indie movies, it was easily the least intriguing of them.

Yeah, but once Hollywood has a darling, she don't let go.

[cthomer5000]

I think that win more likely represents the "throwing an old actor a bone" syndrome that you see in the Oscars. They love to basically hand out a lifetime achievement award when they get the chance. That's why I think Scorcese actually has a strong chance in Director for a change... though something tells me Departed and Iwo Jima will spilt the 2 big categories.

[Schmidty]

That might portend an run of awards for 'Little Miss Sunshine'

That would be a shame, although "Little Miss Sunshine" was the best movie I saw last week.

[cartman]

Borat was robbed! It's obvious that these awards are fixed!!!

(I hope your sarcasm meter is working :) )

[Vinatieri for Prez]

i see jessica beal's areolas

She was quite amazing in HD. The best so far.

[NoMyths]

If that Melissa Ethridge song wins best song there will be carnage in my neighborhood.

Melissa Etheridge is from my neighborhood (Leavenworth, KS), so I'm pretty sure there'll be the opposite of carnage there if she were to win.

[Young Drachma]

Ok, all of this recognizing the other people in Hollywood is cute. But I don't really care. Let's get down to business and give out the awards that the people at home really care about.

[vtbub]

what longer, oscars or nba playoffs?

[Easy Mac]

Give that man a couch!

[st.cronin]

Melissa Etheridge is from my neighborhood (Leavenworth, KS), so I'm pretty sure there'll be the opposite of carnage there if she were to win.

A giant lesbian orgy?

[Easy Mac]

mmmmm giant lesbians...

[Young Drachma]

what longer, oscars or nba playoffs?

Push.

[Young Drachma]

Wow, how much work has this lady had done?

[Easy Mac]

There is something wrong if CoM doesn't win cinematography

[Senator]

Go to bed and see who wins in the morning.

[Izulde]

Is there a place online where they're showing the nominees and winners as they come in?

I really don't want to have to sit through the Oscars program itself

[cartman]

Is there a place online where they're showing the nominees and winners as they come in?

I really don't want to have to sit through the Oscars program itself

CNN.com seems to be updating the list of winners regularly.

hxxp://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2007/academy.awards/print.ballot.html

[Easy Mac]

American Idol represent... though Guarini and Clarkson was robbed.

[Rizon]

I'm so out of touch with movies these days, I've never heard of most of these actors/actresses and movies. :(

[Izulde]

I really hope Meryl Streep wins Leading Actress. She freaking made The Devil Wears Prada.

Other than that I'm cheering for Babel to win as many awards as possible and for "Love You I Do" to win Best Original song.

[cthomer5000]

"Love You I Do" to win Best Original song.

I didn't like the movie overall, but that was definitely a solid song.

[Joe Canadian]

I'm a big movie fan so i'll be watching as much as i can tonight, and i imagine a lot of others will be too.

I've seen all the major nominated films (yes, even The Devil Wears Prada), so here are my thoughts:

should win = my pick
will win = my actual prediction of what the academy will do

Best Picture
should win: The Departed
will win: The Departed

As much as I like Marty's movies, this wasn't his best and it wasn't even the best nominated.


Best Director
should win: Scorcese
will win: Clint Eastwood


Sure you don't have them backwards? Eastwood deserves to win this year, Marty will probably win in a sort of lifetime achievement award. He's been owed an Oscar for 16 years now...

[Joe Canadian]

I really hope Meryl Streep wins Leading Actress. She freaking made The Devil Wears Prada.

So? Just because she made that movie doesn't mean she was the best actress this year... Dench & Mirren were much better.

[Izulde]

So? Just because she made that movie doesn't mean she was the best actress this year... Dench & Mirren were much better.

This is in your opinion.

I have mine.

Not everyone will agree. :)

[Easy Mac]

bah, that was the worst documentary I saw all year. jesus camp, the heart of the game and so much so fast were far better.

[Easy Mac]

Don't give it to Gore, he'll put it in his lockbox.

[cthomer5000]

So? Just because she made that movie doesn't mean she was the best actress this year... Dench & Mirren were much better.

agreed completely. VERY strong year in the best Actress category.

[Joe Canadian]

This is in your opinion.

I have mine.

Not everyone will agree. :)

Yeah I know :)... I'm just saying that "making a movie" isn't really a reason to name someone best actress.

[Joe Canadian]

Now I wanna watch The Good, The Bad and The Ugly!

[cartman]

Yeah I know :)... I'm just saying that "making a movie" isn't really a reason to name someone best actress.

But, you have to admit that it is a key qualification...

:D

[Joe Canadian]

But, you have to admit that it is a key qualification...

:D

Well being an actress is as well... there's a big leap going from being qualified to actually being worthy of the award.

[Easy Mac]

i thought GM pulled the robot arm ad? ah, they changed it up.

[MJ4H]

Ennio Morriconne is such a badass. There are no more deserving film composers than him right now.

[st.cronin]

Ennio Morriconne is such a badass. There are no more deserving film composers than him right now.

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Gundown-Plays-Music-Morricone/dp/B00004W3KY/sr=8-4/qid=1172462730/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4/105-8268553-0774049?ie=UTF8&s=music

[Izulde]

Ennio Morriconne is such a badass. There are no more deserving film composers than him right now.

He's done a lot of good scores over the years.

He did the Adrian Lyne directed version of Lolita's soundtrack and there's some gorgeous tracks on there.

[Easy Mac]

So they just awarded best derivative screenplay, right?

[ISiddiqui]

I'm actually really liking Degeneras' hosting of these awards. And that human light show performance group is just utterly AMAZING.

[MJ4H]

I recently arranged and performed a piece by Morriconne at a wedding (they played it in his tribute: Gabrielle's Oboe from The Mission). I'm a huge fan. Major inspiration for me.

[Easy Mac]

I see J-Lo's areolas!

[Eaglesfan27]

Beyonce looks incredible.

[MJ4H]

That was horrendous.

[Logan]

LESBIAN KISS!!!

[MJ4H]

oh god no god no i have to go set fire to the neighborhood back later

[st.cronin]

LESBIAN KISS!!!

Who?

[kingfc22]

And the Oscar's are running just a tad long...

[Logan]

Is rule 7b in the Lesbian Handbook that you must wear suits like men? Are they banished back to heterosexuality for showing up in a dress?

Who?

Melissa Etheridge and whoever she's married to.

Ellen should've had her woman out there with her. Portia de Rossi is a fine piece.

[ISiddiqui]

Is rule 7b in the Lesbian Handbook that you must wear suits like men? Are they banished back to heterosexuality for showing up in a dress?

Etheridge's gf was wearing a dress... so no ;).

[jbmagic]

And the Oscar's are running just a tad long...


Whoever tivo this, is going to be upset when there taping cuts off.

[Joe Canadian]

Is rule 7b in the Lesbian Handbook that you must wear suits like men? Are they banished back to heterosexuality for showing up in a dress?

Or maybe those that do that don't like wearing dresses.

[Easy Mac]

Have they even gotten to the dead people?

[vtbub]

No.

[Easy Mac]

At least they're being subtle in their Anti-Republican stance. I think they just said, fuck it, there's no must see movie this year, lets just go for it and make it insanely long and alienate everyone who doesn't worship us.

[molson]

Have they even gotten to the dead people?

At this pace, they'll have to edit it to include the people who have died since the show began.

[Easy Mac]

So Peter O'Toole will win posthum, fuck, its too late to try and spell long words.

And I say again, if CoM doesn't win this, its a crock... the steadycam shot at the end was absolutely stunning.

[cthomer5000]

As much as I like Marty's movies, this wasn't his best and it wasn't even the best nominated.

Sure you don't have them backwards? Eastwood deserves to win this year, Marty will probably win in a sort of lifetime achievement award. He's been owed an Oscar for 16 years now...

I just have a gut feeling that Marty will get f'ed again. I think Iwo Jima and The Departed end up splitting the big 2.

[wade moore]

Seriously... how hard is it to make something run as long as scheduled? They do this EVERY year.

[Easy Mac]

Yes!!!!!!!!! Dead People!!!!!!!! Anna Nicole represent!!!!!!!!!!!

[Easy Mac]

wait, no Anna Nicole Smith? Classless fucks.

[cthomer5000]

Seriously... how hard is it to make something run as long as scheduled? They do this EVERY year.

I don't know why anyone cares about it running late. It's not like the superbowl where we can say "these games take just over 3 hours every week, why does this one take 5?"

It's a once-a-year event, it's not like we have movie awards every week leading up to it. It should be long as hell. It's the network's stupidity for simply not starting it earlier.

[kcchief19]

Classless fucks.
I think that was her problem.

[Easy Mac]

I don't know why anyone cares about it running late. It's not like the superbowl where we can say "these games take just over 3 hours every week, why does this one take 5?"

It's a once-a-year event, it's not like we have movie awards every week leading up to it. It should be long as hell. It's the network's stupidity for simply not starting it earlier.

Well to be fair, there's like the Spirit Awards, the Golden Globes, the SAG awards, the......

[kcchief19]

Haven't see any of these films, but I'd love to see Kate Winslet get her due.

[Easy Mac]

I think that was her problem.


Don't go blaming Howard K.

[wade moore]

I don't know why anyone cares about it running late. It's not like the superbowl where we can say "these games take just over 3 hours every week, why does this one take 5?"

It's a once-a-year event, it's not like we have movie awards every week leading up to it. It should be long as hell. It's the network's stupidity for simply not starting it earlier.

It's not the length that bothers me, it's the keeping to a schedule that bothers me. There is very little in these shows that is not schduled/scripted.. there's really no reason to run 30-60 minutes late.

It's more a "what a bunch of baffoons" thing for not being able to properly schedule an event than any concern with the actual lenght.




Side note - hoffman is a mess...

[cthomer5000]

Well to be fair, there's like the Spirit Awards, the Golden Globes, the SAG awards, the......

yeah, but they aren't put on by the academy. it's like saying "well, there are high school games, pop-warner games, college games..."

[cthomer5000]

Haven't see any of these films, but I'd love to see Kate Winslet get her due.

She's the best actress of her generation, and my personal favorite, but it pains me to say i'd place her 5th on that list of specific performances.

[Easy Mac]

She's the best actress of her generation, and my personal favorite, but it pains me to say i'd place her 5th on that list of specific performances.

but she got nude... that's oscar gold. I say she just keeps trying.

[Swaggs]

wait, no Anna Nicole Smith? Classless fucks.

She died in 2007, so she would probably be in next year's set, if they put her in.

I only know this because I was pissed that they left Don Knotts off last year (he died in Feb. 2006) when he died right before and he was in this year's set.

[kcchief19]

I just have a gut feeling that Marty will get f'ed again. I think Iwo Jima and The Departed end up splitting the big 2.
I don't know ... I think it's shaping up for Scorsese to win Director without a doubt. O'Toole will also get his due finally. Then Oscar will show that it hasn't forgotten its favorites and give it to Iowa Jima just when everybody is primed for The Departed to be the big winner.

[Young Drachma]

Hmm..can he win? We shall see...

[Vinatieri for Prez]

She's the best actress of her generation, and my personal favorite, but it pains me to say i'd place her 5th on that list of specific performances.

Well, Winslett's gone 0-5 now. By the way, at the age of 31, she is the youngest actor/actress of all-time to be nominated for 5 acting awards at the Oscars (done in only 19 movies). She also was the youngest nominated for 3 and 4 acting awards.

[kcchief19]

Wow.

[Young Drachma]

Nice.

[Easy Mac]

so how long will they let Marty talk?

[ISiddiqui]

I thought this was a no brainer, as said before. Scorcese gets his lifetime award.

[Easy Mac]

Jack looks scary

[kcchief19]

Well, Winslett's gone 0-5 now. By the way, at the age of 31, she is the youngest actor/actress to be nominated for 5 acting awards (done in only 19 movies). She also was the youngest nominated for 2, 3, and 4 acting awards.
I think she's perpetually hurt by the fact that everybody knows she'll have plenty of opportunities down the road. She's also been hurt that aside from Titanic most of her roles have been very quirky. If she goes back to Jane Austen, she'll probably break through. But you get the sense that once she wins, she'll win a bunch.

[Joe Canadian]

16 years late...

[Easy Mac]

wow, that was unexpected.

[Eaglesfan27]

Cool. They got it right.

[Joe Canadian]

Wow... didn't deserve it.

[cthomer5000]

Very happy about The Departed taking both the big ones. Well deserved, IMHO.

[MJ4H]

Sadly, The Departed winning again means we have to be subjected to that awful excerpt from the musical score again.

[Logan]

WTF was with Diane Keaton?

[cthomer5000]

WTF was with Diane Keaton?

Seemed like 1/2 a couple glasses too many of champagne, 1/2 maybe Nicholson decided he didnt want to read any nominees at the last second.

[Izulde]

I'd have preferred Babel for Picture of the Year, but The Departed isn't a bad choice.

[cthomer5000]

I'd have preferred Babel for Picture of the Year, but The Departed isn't a bad choice.

Babel rang kind of hollow to me. Good acting, it looked good, but it felt like there was 0 heart to it. I felt that way about his prior movie too, 21 Grams.

I think The Departed has a much higher "people will still be watching this movie in 20 years factor." To me that's kind of important among Best Picture nominees.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I think she's perpetually hurt by the fact that everybody knows she'll have plenty of opportunities down the road. She's also been hurt that aside from Titanic most of her roles have been very quirky. If she does back to Jane Austen, she'll probably break through. But you get the sense that once she wins, she'll win a bunch.

Yeah, I have no doubt she will win. She also strikes me as someone who takes roles she likes (no matter the film) without regard to whether it will win her an Oscar.

In addition, regardless of what some people think of Leo, the guy can now say he has turned in some incredible work of late (including the Departed, Blood Diamond, the Aviator, Catch Me If You Can, Gangs of New York.

[cthomer5000]

In addition, regardless of what some people think of Leo, the guy can now say he has turned in some incredible work of late (including the Departed, Blood Diamond, the Aviator, Catch Me If You Can, Gangs of New York.

Agreed. He's always been a good actor but had that teenage heartthrob label attached to him. I think his work is finally getting to the point of undeniable greatness. He was nominated for Blood Diamond and it wasn't even his best performance this year.

[kcchief19]

16 years late...
16? More like 27.

[Izulde]

Babel rang kind of hollow to me. Good acting, it looked good, but it felt like there was 0 heart to it. I felt that way about his prior movie too, 21 Grams.

I think The Departed has a much higher "people will still be watching this movie in 20 years factor." To me that's kind of important among Best Picture nominees.

I can understand where you're coming from with that, sure.

[kcchief19]

Yeah, I have no doubt she will win. She also strikes me as someone who takes roles she likes (no matter the film) without regard to whether it will win her an Oscar.

In addition, regardless of what some people think of Leo, the guy can now say he has turned in some incredible work of late (including the Departed, Blood Diamond, the Aviator, Catch Me If You Can, Gangs of New York.
True. It's starting to be ironic that Leo and Winslet were the stars of the biggest growing movie every but can't win an award. I think Winslet is superior to DiCaprio, but Leo's building a solid body of work.

I definitely respect Winslet's choices, even if she ends up in films that aren't blockbusters. You almost get the sense that if she knew Titanic would make $600, she might not not have done it.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

In 20-30 years, Leo and Kate will be like the Meryl Streeps and Jack Nicholsons of today.

[ISiddiqui]

Seemed like 1/2 a couple glasses too many of champagne, 1/2 maybe Nicholson decided he didnt want to read any nominees at the last second.

It definately did seem like Nicholson and Keaton were supposed to trade off in reading the nominees, but Nicholson decided, nah he wasn't going do that as soon as he stepped on stage.


The Departed was a good choice, but I though Letters from Iwo Jima was a better flick. Departed will be talked about more in 20 years among the general public, I'm sure; but Letters will be higher on critical rankings.

[MrBug708]

In 20-30 years, Leo and Kate will be like the Meryl Streeps and Jack Nicholsons of today.

Quoted for truth.

[Joe Canadian]

16? More like 27.

Heh... meant to say 26.

[Maple Leafs]

Why was Best Picture presented by the guy who played Darth Vader without his mask at the end of Return of the Jedi?

[Rizon]

WTF was with Diane Keaton?

I didn't watch her last night, but it is not unusual for Diane Keaton to act drunk/high/stoned/recentlyfucked.

[korme]

So last night I Tivo'd the Oscars, and went to see The Number 23. Big disappointment. Regardless, as the credits are rolling this dude is like "the next movie I go to see better have some explosions!" I hate people that have no appreciation for film... anyway.

The worst part about this night is that the Academy Awards were taped 8-11. Naturally, it ran over.

So while I sat through best animated short film and best score, I missed Best Director, Best Actress, Best Actor, and Best Film. :mad: Had to log on to IMDb just to find out.

[Butter]

So last night I Tivo'd the Oscars, and went to see The Number 23. Big disappointment.

Scored under 10% at Rotten Tomatoes. I was surprised, I thought the previews looked really good. Any more specific thoughts about why it was bad?

[Logan]

Scored under 10% at Rotten Tomatoes. I was surprised, I thought the previews looked really good. Any more specific thoughts about why it was bad?

It lost me at "2 divided by 3: .666, THE DEVIL!!."

No it's not, you fucks. If you're gonna shorten a number, you gotta round it. It's .667. You can't just arbitrarily pick where you're gonna complete the number. Why not ".66, the most historic highway in America!" or ".6666, the last 4 digits of the phone number of WFAN in New York!"

I have no idea why that bothers me so much.

[cthomer5000]

Any more specific thoughts about why it was bad?

It's the script and script alone. The acting is fine by all involved, it's just the plausibility of the main premise (specifically how quickly the supporting chracters go along with it), and the ultimate resolution. In the end it just feels silly.

[korme]

Scored under 10% at Rotten Tomatoes. I was surprised, I thought the previews looked really good. Any more specific thoughts about why it was bad?

Well, there are a few things. Small spoilers to follow, nothing that will give anything away however:




The movie is about the number 23. Which is fine, plenty of 23s. It's the point of the movie. But I just don't like when a movie finds a bunch of easy "outs" to make it's point. Like, the movie begins on February 3. 23. Oh it's 11:12 when Jim Carrey looks at the clock! Wow that adds to 23! Just stuff like that to me is annoying.

And I hated the last 20 minutes of the movie, and I won't say anything else until it has been out for a while.

[cthomer5000]

File under: why did we nominate this clown?

Murphy "Storms Out" After Oscar Loss
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/70/95/91/10s.jpg Dreamgirls (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443489/) star Eddie Murphy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000552/) was so devastated after losing the Best Supporting Actor Academy Award to Alan Arkin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000273/) he stormed out of the ceremony, according to press reports in the US, including Roger Friedman of FoxNews.com. Murphy was the favorite to win the Oscar, which instead was awarded to Little Miss Sunshine (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449059/) star Arkin. The 45-year-old tried to downplay his disappointment telling American publication Us Weekly, "It's fine. It happens. It's OK." But shortly thereafter, Murphy and girlfriend Tracey Edmonds (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1037794/) left the show and didn't return. Murphy missed out on his Dreamgirls cast mates Beyonce Knowles (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0461498/), Jennifer Hudson (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1617685/) and Anika Noni Rose (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0741242/) performing songs from the film, as well as Hudson's win for Best Supporting Actress.

[korme]

Heard about that on my way to work this morning. Maybe he left the iron on?

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Eddie, it's not about the awards, it's about the craft. And let's be honest, it's tough for one movie to get two supporting acting award wins. Very tough.

[cthomer5000]

Plus, he's a lock to win next year for Norbit. No need to worry, Eddie.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Since this thread at one point turned into a Kate & Leo lovefest, I just saw today that they are doing a movie together for the first time since Titanic. It's Revolutionary Road.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/23/dicaprio.reut/index.html

I'm definitely going to see that one.