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thealmighty
07-15-2007, 04:38 PM
Saw this on a t-shirt... thought it was really funny given all the speculation of what will happen.

JeeberD
07-15-2007, 04:39 PM
Dude...not funny, TA. :mad:

Ksyrup
07-15-2007, 04:44 PM
Who-the-whatsit?

Joe
07-15-2007, 04:55 PM
no more heroine??

larrymcg421
07-15-2007, 04:57 PM
Well played.

This reminds me, though, I better read the fucking book right away. Too many assholes in the world who won't be joking.

Ksyrup
07-15-2007, 05:08 PM
Is this related to Harry Potter? I heard two Wal-Mart employees talking about who died as I was shopping yesterday. Better put your earmuffs on.

Chubby
07-15-2007, 05:22 PM
OMG YOU RUINED MY HAIRY POTTER BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

molson
07-15-2007, 05:27 PM
I don't much about Harry Potter, but I can't think of a book, ever, where people were concerned about spoilers. It's really incredible. The broad that wrote these things must be a billionaire.

Ksyrup
07-15-2007, 05:30 PM
I thought this particular spoiler was already out there, anyway. I don't have a clue about anything Harry Potter, and the two Wal-Mart employees were discussing what even I thought was already well known.

Eaglesfan27
07-15-2007, 05:32 PM
I've avoided all spoilers like the plague. I would hope that people would have the courtesy not to put them in thread titles here.

saldana
07-15-2007, 05:39 PM
Well played.

This reminds me, though, I better read the fucking book right away. Too many assholes in the world who won't be joking.

i wont have an opportunity to start until sometime on sunday...i plan on avoiding every media outlet, website, and message board until i can get a chance to read it...there are too many people that cant help themselves about ruining things for other people.

Joe
07-15-2007, 05:41 PM
I don't much about Harry Potter, but I can't think of a book, ever, where people were concerned about spoilers. It's really incredible. The broad that wrote these things must be a billionaire.

She's a billionaire in the US, but not UK.

EagleFan
07-15-2007, 05:43 PM
What's a Hermione? Sounds like something froim a bizarre fetish porn film...

larrymcg421
07-15-2007, 05:43 PM
I've avoided all spoilers like the plague. I would hope that people would have the courtesy not to put them in thread titles here.

Hopefully, they fear the wrath of Izulde.

sterlingice
07-15-2007, 05:55 PM
I'm just waiting for the USA Today headline the day the book comes out. It'll be something the size of a war declaration font and with the wording "Harry Potter Dies" or "Harry Potter Triumphant" or some such spoiler, ruining the book for many.

SI

Lorena
07-15-2007, 05:55 PM
Fuck man, I shoulda stayed away from the forums today :mad:

Ksyrup
07-15-2007, 05:59 PM
I'm just waiting for the USA Today headline the day the book comes out. It'll be something the size of a war declaration font and with the wording "Harry Potter Dies" or "Harry Potter Triumphant" or some such spoiler, ruining the book for many.

SI
And at that point it becomes news, right? :D :p

JeeberD
07-15-2007, 06:02 PM
I don't much about Harry Potter, but I can't think of a book, ever, where people were concerned about spoilers. It's really incredible. The broad that wrote these things must be a billionaire.

It wasn't on this scale, but I know quite a few people who were concerned about spoilers about the final Dark Tower book from Stephen King...

Surtt
07-15-2007, 06:11 PM
I don't much about Harry Potter, but I can't think of a book, ever, where people were concerned about spoilers. It's really incredible. The broad that wrote these things must be a billionaire.

Bel eve it or not,
She is the richest woman in the UK.

Rizon
07-15-2007, 07:26 PM
I'm still trying to read the 6th book, dammit. About 1/3 done.

Maple Leafs
07-15-2007, 07:47 PM
What's a Hermione? Sounds like something froim a bizarre fetish porn film...
Well, in a few more years, cross your fingers...

ctmason
07-15-2007, 08:46 PM
I haven't read any of the books or seen the movies. Did I miss anything?

Lathum
07-15-2007, 08:58 PM
If it is her that dies I am gonna be really annoyed.

DeToxRox
07-15-2007, 09:08 PM
If it is her that dies I am gonna be really annoyed.

If she dies this thread is gonna' be really awesome.

larrymcg421
07-15-2007, 09:09 PM
JK Rowling is reading this thread and quickly reprinting all copies of the book with a different outcome for Hermione.

Eaglesfan27
07-15-2007, 09:10 PM
If it is her that dies I am gonna be really annoyed.


Me too.

Lathum
07-15-2007, 09:13 PM
The more I think about it the more I think this thread in general is pretty poor taste.

molson
07-15-2007, 09:34 PM
The guy saw something on a T-shirt and everyone's freaking out. If it makes you feel better, I'm sure you can find a ton of cheap T-shirts for sale online with all kinds of other "spoilers" - perhaps even some in humorous bad taste.

Tyrith
07-15-2007, 10:13 PM
The more I think about it the more I think this thread in general is pretty poor taste.

Agreed.

B & B
07-15-2007, 10:24 PM
I haven't read any of the books or seen the movies. Did I miss anything?



Welcome to the party, pal!


(Otherwise, Id have not clicked on a Potter thread)

EagleFan
07-15-2007, 10:31 PM
The more I think about it the more I think this thread in general is pretty poor taste.

Welcome to Hollywood


:)

thealmighty
07-15-2007, 11:29 PM
It was just a damn t-shirt, people.

I hadn't heard any rumors about who dies, 'cause I don't really care- it's just a book. I don't go to Harry sites, don't read magazines, don't watch Hollywood Tonight (or whatever those shows are called). I have no idea who dies.

Just thought it was funny with all the hoopla about it.

I apologize to anyone who took offense, though I see no reason you might (I'm sure someone will explain it to me).

molson
07-15-2007, 11:41 PM
I apologize to anyone who took offense, though I see no reason you might (I'm sure someone will explain it to me).

All I can guess is that they actually think you're "The Almighty"

I went out of my way to find as many Sopranos spoilers as I could. About 2-3 things I read turned out right, and about 500 things I read didn't. And that was a TV show, with hundreds of people involved in the production.

Crapshoot
07-15-2007, 11:53 PM
The more I think about it the more I think this thread in general is pretty poor taste.

"".

Groundhog
07-16-2007, 12:42 AM
I can't wait to see this thread if Hermione actually does die.

Groundhog
07-16-2007, 12:43 AM
Bel eve it or not,
She is the richest woman in the UK.

Wow. Not bad for a lady who writes stories about a magic school for wizard children...

Neon_Chaos
07-16-2007, 12:50 AM
I loved a segment in Conan O'brien the other week...

"Barnes and Noble employees were banned recently from revealing the ending too HP7. In response, staff started greeting people as they entered the store with 'Good morning, Potter's dead!'" :)

Izulde
07-16-2007, 01:16 AM
Wow. Not bad for a lady who writes stories about a magic school for wizard children...

She singlehandedly saved a publishing company that was on the verge of bankruptcy and created a generation of readers that might not have otherwise existed.

It may not be all that much of a stretch to say that J.K. Rowling has saved reading and literature from becoming a niche form of entertainment.

Groundhog
07-16-2007, 01:32 AM
She singlehandedly saved a publishing company that was on the verge of bankruptcy and created a generation of readers that might not have otherwise existed.

It may not be all that much of a stretch to say that J.K. Rowling has saved reading and literature from becoming a niche form of entertainment.

The first paragraph I'd maybe grant, but you give her far too much credit. I doubt very much that reading and literature were ever in any kind of serious risk of becoming a niche entertainment. If Rowling didn't fill the void in that market, someone else would have.

Izulde
07-16-2007, 01:36 AM
The first paragraph I'd maybe grant, but you give her far too much credit. I doubt very much that reading and literature were ever in any kind of serious risk of becoming a niche entertainment. If Rowling didn't fill the void in that market, someone else would have.

Someone else would've had this kind of mass appeal that spans all age groups? Remember, it's not just children that are reading these novels, it's adults as well.

In fact, I'm having serious problems trying to come up with a contemporary author that crosses so many age, gender, and socioeconomic lines in terms of readership.

It's nice to think that someone else would have come along and had this kind of impact, but I really don't see it.

Neon_Chaos
07-16-2007, 01:38 AM
I would risk saying that most people are reading Harry Potter books than the Bible right now.

Groundhog
07-16-2007, 01:46 AM
Someone else would've had this kind of mass appeal that spans all age groups? Remember, it's not just children that are reading these novels, it's adults as well.

In fact, I'm having serious problems trying to come up with a contemporary author that crosses so many age, gender, and socioeconomic lines in terms of readership.

It's nice to think that someone else would have come along and had this kind of impact, but I really don't see it.

Maybe you're right, but I'm not sure that reading and literature was ever in any kind of great crisis.

Similar things were being said about the Davinci Code too when that craze hit - though naturally more towards the older crowd than the young - due to the sheer amount of people picking it up and reading it due to the controversy around it.

Groundhog
07-16-2007, 01:47 AM
I would risk saying that most people are reading Harry Potter books than the Bible right now.

I don't even think that's much of a risk at all considering how popular the Harry Potter series is world wide.

Izulde
07-16-2007, 01:57 AM
Maybe you're right, but I'm not sure that reading and literature was ever in any kind of great crisis.

Similar things were being said about the Davinci Code too when that craze hit - though naturally more towards the older crowd than the young - due to the sheer amount of people picking it up and reading it due to the controversy around it.

My own response to that would be that Da Vinci Code was essentially a one-off that spiked sales specifically because of the controversy and I suspect that the increase in readership would be very minimal and its increase in book sales limited to a tiny trickle effect amongst similiar authors.

Rowling, on the other hand, has created what will be a seven volume magnum opus that quite clearly has incredible staying power and, because of the impact she's had on the younger generation, will, in my opinion, lead to a much broader range of book sales as her readers get older and become more interested in other genres of books.

As far as Rowling's older readers, I'm not entirely certain what expansion effect she has on them.

And I do think literature and reading were very much in a state of crisis or, at the very least, headed in that direction. With an ever-increasing variety of entertainment options and the profileration of the Internet's quick information, people have a tendency towards shorter attention spans and are less likely to have the patience to sit down and read a book.

Yossarian
07-16-2007, 03:20 AM
Originally Posted by Groundhog
If Rowling didn't fill the void in that market, someone else would have.

Duuude.

That would be the case if roughly the same amount of people read roughly the same amount of books when she came on the scene (ie, she was taking place in an existing market).

But that's not what happened.

She made reading 'cool' for kids. Well, reading HP books anyway. My brother who is now 20 has read two books for enjoyment. "The Snowy Owl" when he was like, 5 and the first Harry Potter book. Of course, that's a personal reference, not a trend but you hear / see stuff like that all the time.

Author Justine Larbalestier (who writes great YA fiction) frequently thanks JK in her blog for re-creating the YA fiction market.

Some choice factiods from font of knowledge Wikipedia


First: literacy improvement
Since the publishing of Philosopher's Stone a number of societal trends have been attributed to the series.

The most notable trend attributed to Harry Potter has been an increase in literacy among the young. Anecdotal evidence suggesting such an increase was seemingly confirmed in 2006 when the Kids and Family Reading Report (in conjunction with Scholastic) released a survey finding that 51% of Harry Potter readers ages 5-17 said that while they did not read books for fun before they started reading Harry Potter, they now did. The study further reported that according to 65% of children and 76% of parents, they or their children's performance in school improved since they started reading the series.[48] Charlie Griffiths, director of the National Literacy Association, said "Anyone who can persuade children to read should be treasured and what [Rowling has] given us in Harry Potter is little short of miraculous."[49] British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, a long time fan, said, "I think JK Rowling has done more for literacy around the world than any single human being."[50][51]

Second: this 'trend' shows how popular the books are
n 2005, doctors at the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford reported that their research of the weekends of Saturday 21 June 2003 and Saturday 16 July 2005 (the dates of the two most recent book releases of the series) found that only 36 children needed emergency medical assistance for injuries sustained in accidents, as opposed to other weekends' average of 67.[52]

Third: NYT Bestseller list changes its rules due to potter mania
Harry Potter has also brought changes in the publishing world, one of the most noted being the reformation of the New York Times Best Seller list. The change came immediately preceding the release of Goblet of Fire in 2000 when publishers complained of the number of slots on the list being held by Harry Potter and other children's books. The Times subsequently created a separate children's list for Harry Potter and other children's literature.[55]

This series isn't just stealing 'reads' from other books in a mercantile type view of the market size, it greatly increased a demographic's interest in reading.

Brillig
07-16-2007, 03:41 AM
This series isn't just stealing 'reads' from other books in a mercantile type view of the market size, it greatly increased a demographic's interest in reading.

I don't think that you can conclude that unless book sales excluding Harry Potter have increased markedly. The fact that the NYT Bestseller list was Potter-ated seems to indicate that while people are wild for Harry Potter, they weren't necessarily reading anything else.

While there is undoubtedly some cross-over, it's hard to say whether Rowling has created a lasting change in people's interest in reading, or just a lasting change in people's interest in Harry Potter.

One question, which unfortunately is only theoretical due to the delays involved, would be - if these kids had the choice of seeing the movie first, or reading the book first, which would they choose? And if they had to choose only one?

Yossarian
07-16-2007, 07:57 AM
Kids and Family Reading Report (in conjunction with Scholastic) released a survey finding that 51% of Harry Potter readers ages 5-17 said that while they did not read books for fun before they started reading Harry Potter, they now did.

That, coupled with authors such as Larbalestier saying:

One book being hugely successful can increase the chances of other books. J. K. Rowling’s Harry Potter books created a boom in children’s and YA publishing. Garth Nix says that before Rowling he was happily paddling along and then he got caught up in a tidal wave. He’s not the only one. I don’t know a single YA or children’s author who isn’t profoundly grateful to Rowling. She made our careers.

are enough for me to conclude that book sales excluding HP have increased markedly.

Those above quotes are just the ones i've found today - but I've seen corroborating sound bytes and statements many times over the years.

BrianD
07-16-2007, 08:04 AM
Judging by all of the other movies coming out based on YA books, and some of the major displays of other YA series at the major book stores, I would bet that some amount of crossover is taking place.

spleen1015
07-16-2007, 08:12 AM
For once in my life I'm not going looking for spoilers. I hope this isn't true.

larrymcg421
07-16-2007, 08:18 AM
I can't wait to see this thread if Hermione actually does die.

Me either. Actually, I think the thread length could end up being a spoiler. If this thread suddenly spikes to several hundred posts, we'll know that Hermione actually does die.

molson
07-16-2007, 08:18 AM
For once in my life I'm not going looking for spoilers. I hope this isn't true.

It very well could be true, but I REALLY doubt that the guy who printed the T-shirt has inside knowledge. I mean, one of the 3 main character's probably gonna go, and "Hermione Dies" makes the snappiest T-shirt.

It's almost as if someone predicted a coin toss of heads, and then when it turns up heads, everyone was going nuts because the guy "knew it somehow".

Anthony
07-16-2007, 08:26 AM
I would risk saying that most people are reading Harry Potter books than the Bible right now.

that's not such an outlandish statement, they're both works of fiction afterall.

KWhit
07-16-2007, 08:30 AM
The thread title claims that there was a funny t-shirt involved, but I've yet to see any humor in it. I guess I just don't find it funny for people to try to go out of their way to spoil something that others enjoy.

*shurg*

spleen1015
07-16-2007, 08:32 AM
The thread title claims that there was a funny t-shirt involved, but I've yet to see any humor in it. I guess I just don't find it funny for people to try to go out of their way to spoil something that others enjoy.

*shurg*

Lord Voldemort would find it funny. I find it EVIL.

molson
07-16-2007, 08:34 AM
The thread title claims that there was a funny t-shirt involved, but I've yet to see any humor in it. I guess I just don't find it funny for people to try to go out of their way to spoil something that others enjoy.

*shurg*

IT WAS ON A T-SHIRT, IT MUST BE TRUE!!!! That's the humor.

Maple Leafs
07-16-2007, 08:35 AM
I apologize to anyone who took offense, though I see no reason you might
That's a fantastic apology.

Anthony
07-16-2007, 08:35 AM
it's only a spoiler if the guy says "my [insert friend/family member here] works for JK Rowling and read the book already, and they said Hermione dies, so they decided to make a tshirt out of it".

logically (and i know logic is a lot to ask these days, *sigh*) 1 or more out of the 3 main characters is likely to die, so you can pick one and make a statement and you'll have a 1/3 chance of getting it right. i haven't read any of these books.


Harry Potter dies. my cousin has a friend who is Rowling's housekeeper, and it has been confirmed. RIP Harry.

Bee
07-16-2007, 08:49 AM
As someone that doesn't really care that much about the whole Harry Potter thing, I'm kind of lost on why it's logical one or more of the 3 main characters is likely to die. Is it logical based on previous books or because of rumors that indicate one of them will die?

AZSpeechCoach
07-16-2007, 09:09 AM
It very well could be true, but I REALLY doubt that the guy who printed the T-shirt has inside knowledge. I mean, one of the 3 main character's probably gonna go, and "Hermione Dies" makes the snappiest T-shirt.

It's almost as if someone predicted a coin toss of heads, and then when it turns up heads, everyone was going nuts because the guy "knew it somehow".

"Hermione Dies" is a reference to a Something Awful joke related to book 6. A group of "goons" drove past a line of kids waiting at midnight to get their books and yelled "Hermione dies!" at them, recording their reactions. After that, any good Harry Potter thread on their message board had "Harmione dies" in the subject line.

KWhit
07-16-2007, 09:27 AM
A group of "goons" drove past a line of kids waiting at midnight to get their books and yelled "Hermione dies!" at them, recording their reactions.

That's exactly the kind of stupid crap that I don't find funny.

Eaglesfan27
07-16-2007, 09:31 AM
Someone else would've had this kind of mass appeal that spans all age groups? Remember, it's not just children that are reading these novels, it's adults as well.

In fact, I'm having serious problems trying to come up with a contemporary author that crosses so many age, gender, and socioeconomic lines in terms of readership.

It's nice to think that someone else would have come along and had this kind of impact, but I really don't see it.


I do think it is remarkable how the appeal crosses all lines. The clinic I worked at gave out Harry Potter books for Christmas along with a number of other toys (donated by a local charity), and I saw a wide diversity of kids who wanted the books over many other toys.

RendeR
07-16-2007, 09:44 AM
That's exactly the kind of stupid crap that I don't find funny.


I think that some people , not necessarilly myself included, find it hilarious that anyone can get so utterly sucked into something mentally and emotionally that they'd get upset about such things.

I've had books and movies where I really got involved on an emotional level with the characters and storyline, but at some point you have to stop and realize that its JUST a book, a work of total fiction that holds absolutely no bearing on life in any way. To get really upset about such things is probably not a real healthy reaction.

molson
07-16-2007, 09:50 AM
I think that some people , not necessarilly myself included, find it hilarious that anyone can get so utterly sucked into something mentally and emotionally that they'd get upset about such things.

I've had books and movies where I really got involved on an emotional level with the characters and storyline, but at some point you have to stop and realize that its JUST a book, a work of total fiction that holds absolutely no bearing on life in any way. To get really upset about such things is probably not a real healthy reaction.

It's the equiavlent of the kid who gets picked on middle school because it's so easy to get a reaction.

What I still don't get, is why would the Potter fans think some random people driving by in a car (or wearing a T-shirt), would have inside spoiler knowledge.

rkmsuf
07-16-2007, 09:53 AM
Han Solo is Chewbacca's brother!

KWhit
07-16-2007, 09:55 AM
It's the equiavlent of the kid who gets picked on middle school because it's so easy to get a reaction.

What I still don't get, is why would the Potter fans think some random people driving by in a car (or wearing a T-shirt), would have inside spoiler knowledge.

I'm more thinking of the shock-jock radio guys who the day after release of the last book were clogging up the airwaves with the book spoilers and people who plaster message board thread titles with the spoiler info after the book is released. It's lame that some people get enjoyment out of spoiling something for others.

spleen1015
07-16-2007, 10:00 AM
I'm more thinking of the shock-jock radio guys who the day after release of the last book were clogging up the airwaves with the book spoilers and people who plaster message board thread titles with the spoiler info after the book is released. It's lame that some people get enjoyment out of spoiling something for others.

Evilness!

KWhit
07-16-2007, 10:28 AM
I think that some people , not necessarilly myself included, find it hilarious that anyone can get so utterly sucked into something mentally and emotionally that they'd get upset about such things.

I've had books and movies where I really got involved on an emotional level with the characters and storyline, but at some point you have to stop and realize that its JUST a book, a work of total fiction that holds absolutely no bearing on life in any way. To get really upset about such things is probably not a real healthy reaction.

I disagree. It is a work of fiction, but it's something that people enjoy and a big part of the enjoyment is the surprise you feel when you're reading it. And I just don't get the thought process of people who find it funny to ruin that for other people.

Nobody would want the Super Bowl outcome to be spoiled for them if their team were playing in it. Of course, that doesn't really happen because everyone experiences the SB at the same time. But a book is different. Most people can't finish a 700-800 page book in one sitting, so they can't avoid the inevitable next morning spoilers.

bulletsponge
07-16-2007, 10:36 AM
am i the only person to have never read or watched a harry potter thingy?

MikeVic
07-16-2007, 10:49 AM
am i the only person to have never read or watched a harry potter thingy?

I saw movie four, then movie three. And that's it. I guess they would be better if I watched and/or read in order... but I wasn't interested when they came out. I did like the third one better than the fourth.

rkmsuf
07-16-2007, 10:57 AM
am i the only person to have never read or watched a harry potter thingy?

nope, I'm with you. my goal is now to never see or read one.

MikeVic
07-16-2007, 11:06 AM
nope, I'm with you. my goal is now to never see or read one.

I do similar things with other movies too. It's not my goal with Harry Potter, but at this point I'd have to watch five movies to catch up, and I'm thinking the hype won't carry with it. Especially after Lord of the Rings. And I've read a book in some DragonLance series that I really liked, so it'll be compared to that too.

Other movies I can think of avoiding because everyone seemed to have seen it were Titanic and Armageddon.

Crapshoot
07-16-2007, 11:11 AM
I disagree. It is a work of fiction, but it's something that people enjoy and a big part of the enjoyment is the surprise you feel when you're reading it. And I just don't get the thought process of people who find it funny to ruin that for other people.

Nobody would want the Super Bowl outcome to be spoiled for them if their team were playing in it. Of course, that doesn't really happen because everyone experiences the SB at the same time. But a book is different. Most people can't finish a 700-800 page book in one sitting, so they can't avoid the inevitable next morning spoilers.

Yup. Its a cultural thing - all that's being asked is to show a little respect, and people like RendeR don't seem to get that.

BrianD
07-16-2007, 11:11 AM
I do similar things with other movies too. It's not my goal with Harry Potter, but at this point I'd have to watch five movies to catch up, and I'm thinking the hype won't carry with it. Especially after Lord of the Rings. And I've read a book in some DragonLance series that I really liked, so it'll be compared to that too.

Other movies I can think of avoiding because everyone seemed to have seen it were Titanic and Armageddon.

I avoided Titanic for a long time after it came out. I forget how long it was in the theater, but I waited until it ended its run and finally made its way to HBO. I then watched it alone one night when I was bored. Because I waited so long, all of the hype had worn off and I very much liked the movie.

If you aren't a fan of the series, don't jump in during all of the hysteria. Wait until it cools down and then decide if you are interested.

molson
07-16-2007, 11:12 AM
I saw one of the movies in the middle of the series having never read any books or scene any of the other movies. I thought it was really, really well done, and kept thinking that this was the "feel" that the new star wars movies should have had. (In that you actually buy this "world" that was created, and aren't continously distracted by bad acting and chesey, fake-looking special effects)

Qwikshot
07-16-2007, 11:19 AM
How bout chaning the title of the thread to reduce personal anger afflictions.

I have not ready any of the books, but I wouldn't post anything like this without knowing full well the extent of causing some harm to people who may or may not want to know the implications (regardless of it being a guess, or just a cutesy observation of some other attentionwh*re's actions).

I admit that I avoided spoilers for the Sopranos, others could've cared less about the Soprano family, but when you have placed time and effort to watch something (in H.P. case read something) then others should respect the idea of not spoiling or rumor-mongering the end.

Christ we have a spoiler option here.

Disappointing.

stevew
07-16-2007, 11:20 AM
am i the only person to have never read or watched a harry potter thingy?

Saw a bit of the first movie and that's all.

BrianD
07-16-2007, 11:27 AM
I saw one of the movies in the middle of the series having never read any books or scene any of the other movies. I thought it was really, really well done, and kept thinking that this was the "feel" that the new star wars movies should have had. (In that you actually buy this "world" that was created, and aren't continously distracted by bad acting and chesey, fake-looking special effects)

For anybody that read about my annoyances with Transformers, the above quote is exactly what that movie lacked and what made the latest Potter movie so good. A world was created and the whole movie existed consistently within the world. The comparison to Star Wars is very good as well. The original movies existed in their world(s) while the new movies seemed very much outside of the world(s) they were supposed to exist in.

JeeberD
07-16-2007, 05:08 PM
What I still don't get, is why would the Potter fans think some random people driving by in a car (or wearing a T-shirt), would have inside spoiler knowledge.

All I know is that there's also a recording out there of jackasses driving by a book store at midnight of the book six release and them yelling out THE major spoiler for that book.

And as I've mentioned a couple of times here, on a different board someone posted that same spoiler in a thread titled "Hey Harry Potter Fans!" just a couple of days before the book came out. I was so pissed off I would have beat the dude's ass if I could have.

And as I've also mentioned before, if anyone tries that soft of bullshit here I'll do everything in my mod power to ban their ass for trolling...

KWhit
07-17-2007, 07:33 AM
All I know is that there's also a recording out there of jackasses driving by a book store at midnight of the book six release and them yelling out THE major spoiler for that book.

And as I've mentioned a couple of times here, on a different board someone posted that same spoiler in a thread titled "Hey Harry Potter Fans!" just a couple of days before the book came out. I was so pissed off I would have beat the dude's ass if I could have.

And as I've also mentioned before, if anyone tries that soft of bullshit here I'll do everything in my mod power to ban their ass for trolling...

I was spoiled on the last book right before I got to the part where the big spoiler happened. I think it was by reading a thread here at FOFC, too, but I could be wrong. I was pretty pissed off.

Alan T
07-17-2007, 07:54 AM
For anybody that read about my annoyances with Transformers, the above quote is exactly what that movie lacked and what made the latest Potter movie so good. A world was created and the whole movie existed consistently within the world. The comparison to Star Wars is very good as well. The original movies existed in their world(s) while the new movies seemed very much outside of the world(s) they were supposed to exist in.

To take this small tangent for a quick second. This is an interesting point as you and I differed in opinions of the transformers movie, and while I enjoyed the new HP movie that just came out, it wasn't anywhere near as enjoyable for me as the transformers movie. I thought the HP movie was good, but didn't capture me where i was absolutely giddy about the transformers movie. My guess is because I never really read any HP books, and just watch the movies as they are fairly entertaining all things considered.


Now to try to get back on topic of the thread.. I understand why people don't like spoilers, but for me its not really a huge deal. I'll often record tv shows that I don't watch because I'm busy with whatever, then read the threads here about what happened in that show, or hear about it on the radio, or whatever. Then the next night go home and watch it and still enjoy it. I don't think spoilers really bug me one bit at all.. Most of the movies or shows out there these days are pretty predictable anyways so a spoiler isn't really a huge deal to me. That said, I still try to respect others desire to keep spoilers and not ruin their fun even if it doesn't impact me at all.

I guess it goes back to the whole thing.. people seek different things from their entertainment.

BrianD
07-17-2007, 08:52 AM
To take this small tangent for a quick second. This is an interesting point as you and I differed in opinions of the transformers movie, and while I enjoyed the new HP movie that just came out, it wasn't anywhere near as enjoyable for me as the transformers movie. I thought the HP movie was good, but didn't capture me where i was absolutely giddy about the transformers movie. My guess is because I never really read any HP books, and just watch the movies as they are fairly entertaining all things considered.

That is pretty funny. I thought that the HP movie was easily the best movie I've seen this summer (just edging out Ratatouille). At the same time, it was one of the more crappy movie-going experiences with a kid kicking my seat the whole time and two high school kids talking above a whisper about all the differences from the book. I guess we need to remember to never use each other for movie-going advice. :)

Now to try to get back on topic of the thread.. I understand why people don't like spoilers, but for me its not really a huge deal. I'll often record tv shows that I don't watch because I'm busy with whatever, then read the threads here about what happened in that show, or hear about it on the radio, or whatever. Then the next night go home and watch it and still enjoy it. I don't think spoilers really bug me one bit at all.. Most of the movies or shows out there these days are pretty predictable anyways so a spoiler isn't really a huge deal to me. That said, I still try to respect others desire to keep spoilers and not ruin their fun even if it doesn't impact me at all.


I bolded what I thought was the most important part of your last paragraph. It doesn't really matter if you are a person who cares about spoilers, there are plenty of people that do. I agree that most movies are predictable, but watching a movie unfold is a great joy to many people. The method of telling a story might be even more important than the story itself for some people.

Along those lines, I think a fake spoiler is nearly as bad as a real spoiler. It has the same malicious intent and it includes a lie. It changes the way people take in the story because they are aware of the ending, but give the added confusion of being wrong.

There is also the possibility that these early spoilers are real...either by the person guessing right, or because the person got the book early. You never know who works for the publisher, or found a store to sell it early so you never know who knows what.

Lathum
07-17-2007, 09:10 AM
It changes the way people take in the story because they are aware of the ending, but give the added confusion of being wrong.

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QFT