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duckman
09-22-2007, 09:43 PM
Here is his postgame news conference and his reaction to a news article by Jenni Carlson of the Oklahoman: hxxp://www.koco.com/video/14182021/index.html

Here is the news article in question: hxxp://newsok.com/article/3131543/1190474803

STILLWATER — Bobby Reid stood near the team charters last Friday night, using his cell phone, eating his boxed meal.

It would've been normal post-game activity but for one thing.

His mother was feeding him chicken.

Which brings us to the quarterback switch-a-roo at Oklahoma State.
Don't see the connection?

Let me explain. Cowboy coaches have gone full-speed ahead with the Zac Attack, opting to start Robinson over Reid a week ago, then sticking with him against Texas Tech today even after an embarrassing loss at Troy. Weren't we being told just last week that Reid was still the guy? All the weight with which Cowboy coaches were backing Reid has totally shifted to Robinson.

The change seems sudden.

Thing is, it may not be as abrupt as it looks. If you believe the rumors and the rumblings, Reid has been pushing coaches that way for quite some time.

Tile up the back stories told on the sly over the past few years, and you see a pattern that hasn't always been pretty.

Word is that Reid has considered transferring a couple different times, the first as early as 2005. Reid, then a redshirt freshman, was facing competition from returner Donovan Woods, and apparently, Reid considered leaving OSU just because he had to compete for the spot.
Reid's nerves have also been an issue. Earlier this year, he told our Andrea Cohen about his game-day emotions.

"I get sweaty palms. I get the butterflies in my stomach. I sweat lot,” he said then. "I've been playing this game for 15 years. And I can honestly say every game I've played in, I've been nervous. It's not so much me being scared; I just get to a point where I start worrying about a lot of things I can't control.”

A lot of guys get nervous, some even puke before games. How you handle the nerves is important, though, and Reid hasn't always managed them well. He has gotten off to some extremely slow starts, putting the Cowboys in some holes. Some, they dug out of, with Reid often wielding the biggest shovel, and some, they couldn't.

Then, there have been the injuries. No doubt some of Reid's ailments have been severe, including an injured shoulder that required surgery and forced him to redshirt. Other times, though, Reid has been nicked in games and sat it out instead of gutting it out.

Injuries are tricky, of course. You don't want a guy to put himself in harm's way if he's really hurt, and yet, football is one of those sports in which everyone plays hurt. Aches and pains, bumps and bruises are part of the gig.

Reid's injury against Florida Atlantic — whatever it was — appeared minor but just might have been the thing that pushed Cowboy coaches over the edge. Even though Mike Gundy said last week that Robinson got the nod because he had the better week of practice, insiders say that the coaches decided to bench Reid early in the week. The bottom line: The switch is less about Robinson's play and more about Reid's attitude.

"The coaches made a decision,” Reid told our Mike Baldwin after the Troy game. "I just have to go with it, get better and get back on the field.”

There's something to be said for not being a malcontent, but you can almost see Reid shrugging his shoulders as he says those words. Does he have the fire in his belly?

Or does he want to be coddled, babied, perhaps even fed chicken?

That scene in the parking lot last week had no bearing on the Cowboys changing quarterbacks, and yet, it said so much about Reid. A 21-year-old letting his mother feed him in public? Most college kids, much less college football players, would just as soon be seen running naked across campus.
And what of the scene television cameras captured earlier that evening of Reid on the sidelines laughing with assistant strength coach Trumain Carroll? The same cameras showed him throwing his cap in disgust after a missed play earlier, but to be laughing in the final minutes of an embarrassing loss is bad form.

Reid is the most talented quarterback in Payne County, but he hasn't proven that he's the toughest. If you listen to the rumblings and the rumors, Cowboy coaches simply grew weary of it.

Who knows? There might come a day when they grow tired of something Robinson does, but for now, they appear willing to sacrifice a bit of talent for a lot of grit.

CamEdwards
09-22-2007, 11:04 PM
They actually showed the game here in Northern Virginia and I was able to catch most of it. Typical TxTech-OKState scorefest. I was glad to see OSU hang on though... this was a good win for them.

CamEdwards
09-22-2007, 11:10 PM
dola: I love the fact that Jenni was there for the press conference... or at least it sure looked like he was talking to her.

I had limited dealings with Jenni back when I was hosting the sports talk show. She seemed like a sharp columnist back then.

duckman
09-22-2007, 11:15 PM
She seemed like a sharp columnist back then.

This isn't the first time she's caught hell for something she's wrote. A few years ago, she was giving Iowa State grief for hiring a known "wife beater" and alcholic in Dan McCarney when they came to Norman. Several media people on the Animal ripped her for it.

vex
09-23-2007, 12:10 AM
She's a moron.

JeeberD
09-23-2007, 09:59 AM
Glad to see that the Cowboys took out Blech... :)

vex
09-23-2007, 01:57 PM
Just watched that again, just awesome.

duckman
09-27-2007, 12:30 PM
I think Gene Wojciechowski did a good job explaining what both sides did wrong and how the media and coach relations are eroding.

hxxp://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3038029&sportCat=ncf&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1

Nobody escapes blame in coach-columnist spat


If you haven't seen the China syndrome meltdown of Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy then you should. Not only because it's compelling video, but because of what's happened since Gundy used his entire postgame news conference to berate a newspaper columnist, defend his benched quarterback and, in the process, become something of a statewide hero.


This wasn't your ordinary tirade. This was Dennis "Crown Their Asses" Green, Jim "Playoffs?" Mora, Bob "Forgotten More About This F------ Game Than All You People Combined Are Ever Gonna Know" Knight to the 10th power. This was the Johnnie Walker Blue of rip jobs.


Gundy lectured, insulted and vilified Daily Oklahoman sports columnist Jenni Carlson for writing that benched OSU quarterback Bobby Reid is essentially a big wuss. Carlson and the Oklahoman stood by the column, but the truth is, nobody is blameless on this one.


Of course, you wouldn't know that by the opinion polls. In Oklahoma, Gundy is more popular than oil.


An Oklahoma City television station asked viewers if Gundy reacted "appropriately." Eighty-one percent of the 11,686 respondents said yes. Another TV station in the city asked if Gundy was right to react as he did. Seventy-six percent of the respondents answered yes. And Oklahoma State officials said Wednesday that 98 percent of the 1,400 (and counting) e-mails they've received are pro-Gundy.


"I couldn't believe what I was seeing," said Rajika Reid, Bobby's mother, of Gundy's news conference. "I've never seen nothing like that before. I was in awe. Wow."


It shouldn't come as a surprise that Gundy has received widespread support from his coaching peers. But what is mildly surprising is that some of the calls left at his office come from coaches he's never met, including several with Super Bowl rings.


Something is at work here. The mistake is to think Gundy's supporters are simply Oklahoma State yahoos blinded by orange and black loyalty. But the e-mails and support also come from University of Oklahoma alums and fans, which, if you know anything about the intensity of that rivalry, just doesn't happen by accident.


Gundy not only struck a nerve, but he inadvertently tapped into the public's (and coaches') frustration and exasperation with the media. Not only did these people agree with what Gundy did, but they overwhelmingly agreed with how and why he did it.


<INLINE1>Gundy's newspaper-waving theatrics were ridiculous. Rather than be presidential, he was dictatorial. But the essence of his message has resonated with viewers and readers: College players aren't pro players, and shouldn't be treated as such … Make sure of your facts … Turnabout is fair play.


There has been a steady erosion of trust between college football coaches and the media. The reasons are numerous, more than a little bit complicated and, on occasion, legitimate. Some of it is the media's own fault (I've committed my share of mistakes). Some of it is the fault of control freak head coaches.


In the case of Oklahoma State, Gundy and Carlson, there were other forces at work. To think Gundy's three-minute postgame lecture was the sole result of Carlson's column is naive. The column was a trip wire, but Gundy's temper was on the simmer setting long before he read Carlson's column on Reid.


This was the perfect news conference storm. Oklahoma State had opened its season with a 21-point loss at Georgia, replaced Reid with Zac Robinson in the win against Florida Atlantic, then benched Reid altogether before the Cowboys lost at Troy. Gundy and OSU's self-anointed "World's Greatest Offense" were taking some serious heat.


Then the Cowboys beat Texas Tech in last Saturday's 49-45 thriller. An empowered and emotional Gundy walked into the postgame conference and instead of raving about his players and the victory, he became, well, raving mad. In that day's column Carlson had questioned the attitude, toughness and heart of Reid. She wrote of a scene following the Troy game where Rajika Reid fed her son chicken from a team-issued box dinner.


Translation: spoiled mama's boy.


It gets a little dicey from there. First of all, Oklahoma State is quick to say that Carlson didn't cover the game at Troy. Does that mean she had to depend on someone else for a description of what took place between Reid and his mother? This isn't unprecedented.


But Rajika Reid said Wednesday that her son ate his postgame meal without any parental assistance, though she did admit she took a piece of chicken from the box for herself.


"Every time I hear that I have to laugh because I think it's so crazy," Rajika Reid said. "No, I didn't feed him any chicken."


Not so funny to her was the notion that her son lacked toughness, that he was babied or coddled. She wasn't alone.


"That's way, way far from the truth," said David Aymond, Reid's coach at North Shore High School in Houston. "That was never an issue. Bobby Reid was a tough kid who didn't care to be coddled … I can't say enough good things about Bobby Reid."


And it probably didn't help that Carlson wrote about another Troy game moment that featured Reid laughing on the bench as the Cowboys were on their way to an upset loss.


Translation: Reid has an attitude problem.


TV cameras did catch Reid yukking it up in the waning minutes of the game. But, said Oklahoma State officials and Rajika Reid, he wasn't laughing about the loss. They said he was laughing at something an OSU teammate had just said to a Troy fan or player who had been taunting the Cowboys' bench. Fair enough, but it looked bad.


And then there was Carlson's suggestion that Reid couldn't or wouldn't play hurt. This is no small thing. To be called soft as a pro athlete is one of the ultimate put-downs. But is it appropriate to hold a second-string college quarterback to the same standard as an NFL QB? It's just me, but generally speaking, I think you get the benefit of the doubt until you start receiving paychecks, not scholarships.


Carlson thought differently and said so in her column. That's her opinion, which is what the Oklahoman pays her for. And she might be surprised to hear that Rajika Reid agrees with Carlson -- up to a point.


"I think they're fair game," said Reid, who mentioned that her son played with injuries during parts of his redshirt freshman season. "If you're going to write about a collegiate player, you should write about the skill set … the skill set of an athlete. I have a problem because [Carlson] made a personal attack on someone she doesn't know. Basically, I'm disturbed that she poked at his integrity and character."


This is partly the reason why Gundy had his meltdown, why you could hear a smattering of a applause from OSU fans after his postgame appearance, and why Rajika Reid has spoken with lawyers about pursuing legal action. It's also why this is an incident that shouldn't be dismissed as another coach-gone-postal moment.


Gundy is already in move-forward mode. When Carlson politely asked him Monday to detail any inaccuracies in her column (he had said three-quarters of it was wrong), Gundy declined. Asked why, he clumsily said, "I don't have to."


OK, I get it. PR 101 says don't give the story another news cycle. But, "I don't have to," sounds like something a 6-year-old says moments before being sent to the timeout corner.


Meanwhile, when I contacted Carlson Wednesday, she said she had been instructed by her editor to give no more interviews. "As of yesterday," she said in her e-mail, "we decided that it was time for me to get on with the work at hand."


Well, I suppose it beats "I don't have to." But not by much. Then again it wasn't Carlson's call.


The work at hand, as Carlson puts it, is considerable for everyone. It doesn't include, as some have written, a suspension or firing of Gundy. An apology? Absolutely. During last Saturday's hissy fit, Gundy had as much right to ask Carlson if she had children, as Carlson has asking Gundy if, say, he wears boxers or briefs. It's none of his damn business.


The real work is to fix what's broken. There is a growing disconnect between the sports media and the coaches and players we cover, and the people who read that coverage. There have always been disagreements -- that's a given -- but there also was a common ground and a mutual respect.


Now it's something much more polarizing.


Mutual distrust.

stevew
09-27-2007, 01:50 PM
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miami_fan
09-27-2007, 02:05 PM
This is not the first time a college player has been ripped in the media. Hell I don't think this will be the last time that a kid will be ripped this year. So what has changed? How is it so wrong to call Reid a momma's boy but it was okay to say essentially the same thing about Mitch Mustain last year? I am sure there are specific differences in both situations and that may not the best comparision but you get my pont. My perception is that the criticism of college players both on and of the field has been fair game for years including their character.

sooner333
09-27-2007, 04:39 PM
I'm a man! I'm Forty!!!

sterlingice
09-27-2007, 11:03 PM
I do love all the holier than thou's coming out of the woodwork now bashing both of them. Way to go out on a limb there, guys :rolleyes:

SI

duckman
09-28-2007, 01:57 PM
Here is the new Coors Light "commercial" that the local morning show did:

hxxp://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1126119384?bclid=1125972053&bctid=1200296594

Pretty funny shit there. :D

miami_fan
04-11-2008, 09:37 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3341578&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos2

Friday, April 11, 2008
Reid: Gundy's rant "basically ended my life"

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By Tom Friend
ESPN The Magazine


The lethal combination of testosterone, Red Bull and YouTube got us to this awkward place. It's a place where a coach is a cult figure for hollering: "I'm a man! I'm 40!" And it's a place where a quarterback is a vagabond -- for not hollering back.

Seven months later, the tirade of the century still has legs, and those legs are leaning against a rusted goalpost in Houston. The quarterback's name is Bobby Reid, and if his pulse is quick and his tongue is acid, it's because he's still stewing over the 3-minute, 20-second rant that "basically ended my life."

The problem is, nobody realizes it. He was at a party last fall with a teammate, receiver Adarius Bowman, when two co-eds found out he and Bowman were football players at Oklahoma State.

Co-ed: "Oh! Your coach is such a great guy, the way he stood up for his quarterback!"

Bowman: "This is the boy you're talking about right here. This is Bobby Reid. This is the quarterback."

Co-ed: "Well, your coach is such a magnificent man. He's a hero in my book."

Reid: "Sweetheart, pump your brakes. It's not what you think it is. Let me tell you the story."

So he told her a story ...



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They built this quarterback in Southern Texas. They dubbed him the next Vince Young, they charted his long passes with a tape measure, and, when he led his Houston high school to the 2003 Class 5A State title, they figured someday he'd be playing on Sundays.

Reid had it all: arm, legs, smarts, manners and an unlisted phone number. Then Oklahoma State coach Les Miles, offered him his first scholarship and a mesmerized Reid accepted. Ohio State recruited him anyway, and Reid even let Jim Tressel into his home. But Reid's word was oak, and Miles considered it the biggest recruiting coup at the school since Thurman Thomas.

The kid was 6-foot-4, 235 pounds and so quick he'd never taken a direct hit. Better yet, he'd graduated from high school early, which meant he could attend spring practice before his freshman season.

It had a certain Oklahoma State quarterback coach frothing at the mouth.

A quarterback coach named Mike Gundy.



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Right away, Reid thought Gundy was hilarious. The coach kept it loose in quarterback meetings and rarely went anywhere without a can of soda or Red Bull. Gundy, in the '80s, had been a stellar quarterback himself at Oklahoma State, but now he was a bit hyper, a bit overcaffeined and a bit entertaining. Reid dug him.

Miles and Gundy's plan had been to start the kid from Day 1, but, that first spring, Reid took his virgin hit. A linebacker smashed Reid's throwing shoulder during practice, and his labrum didn't survive. He required surgery. And not only did Reid lose his freshman season, he lost Les Miles.

Following a loss in the 2004 Alamo Bowl, Miles bolted to LSU, and Reid -- who'd grown fond of the coach -- felt like leaving with him. But as he was driving home to Houston, Reid's cell phone rang. It was OSU's new head coach on the line: Gundy.

He urged Reid to stay. He told him he was bringing in Larry Fedora from Florida to be offensive coordinator, and that Fedora's spread offense suited Reid's running and passing skills. Reid had only operated option or play-action offenses, but it sounded nice on paper, particularly when Gundy said, "You're the future of the program, son."

As promised, Reid started as a redshirt freshman in 2005, until, at midseason, he dislocated three toes against Missouri. His mother Rajika, a single parent, rode off the field with him on a cart -- store that image away -- and Reid was gone five weeks.

The injury turned his first season into a wash, but, even though Gundy brought in a new quarterback from Denver, Zac Robinson, Reid still felt it was his team. He began 2006 with solid efforts, and even had a five-touchdown, 411-yard performance against Kansas, breaking Gundy's school record for most total yards in a game.

But acrimony was on its way. Against Texas A&M the next week, Reid suffered a mild concussion -- careening his head off the turf after a run -- and there was sideline chatter that it was a minor nick, that he wasn't showing much grit.

The twist was that Robinson, in Reid's place, threw for three TDs and took the game to OT. It dawned on people that Robinson was better suited for the spread offense, that he was the more assertive runner. Reid tended to run with his shoulders too high, and, if nothing else, it had Gundy and Fedora re-evaluating the QB situation.

"At times, [Reid] didn't perform like people had wanted him to,'' Gundy says. "Sometimes players play very well in games, and then, in other games, if things don't go well, they don't. Why does it happen to him? That's hard to answer."

There was a sense now that Gundy didn't trust Reid, that Reid wasn't machismo enough for his tastes. And the gossip got out there, even made its way to the beat writers. They just weren't brave enough to print it.



But, before long, a story was staring them in the face. In the '06 season finale against Oklahoma, Gundy and Fedora drew up a bizarre game plan, platooning both Reid and Robinson. There were empty backfield sets and direct-snap running plays to Robinson, and the scheme had OU on its heels. When Reid tossed a two-yard TD with 6:41 remaining, the Sooner lead was only 27-21. Reid was jubilant. Earlier in the game, he'd taken a pain shot for a sprained shoulder and had returned to throw that TD. He was ram-tough, after all, and he wanted the ball back. He wanted to beat smack-talking OU.

The two teams traded scoreless possessions, and, with less than two minutes remaining, OSU had the ball and one last chance for an upset.

Gundy sent in Robinson.

"I was sitting there like, 'Coach, can I go in? Let me go in, Coach,' '' Reid says. "And he really didn't say nothing. I just blacked out and lost it. I was cursing and just going off."

Teammates told Reid to cool it, but he kept howling: "This is my team! I led us here! I should be in the game!"

Gundy's reaction was, "Our job isn't necessarily to satisfy every player, but to do what's best to win the football game." But the Cowboys didn't win. Robinson failed to reach the end zone, and Reid nearly quit the team -- weeks before their appearance in the Independence Bowl.

The next day, the good cop to Gundy's bad cop -- Fedora -- talked Reid off the ledge, saying he still was the team's unquestioned starter. Reid went on to lead OSU to a 34-31 bowl victory over Alabama, although Gundy called Reid's performance spotty. It wasn't a ringing endorsement, and Reid had a gut feeling something was brewing, something ugly, something that might even make its way into the newspaper.

If they were brave enough to print it.

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This past September, it took exactly two Saturdays for the whole thing to blow.

In Week 2 against Florida Atlantic, Reid got hurt again, tweaking his ankle and knee. Robinson stepped in, threw for three TDs and stole Gundy's heart. Reid just didn't know it yet.

That Monday, Gundy and Fedora called Reid in, asking about his health. He told them he was raring to go for the next game at Troy. But Gundy told him to stop right there. He told him they were moving him to No. 2 and Robinson to No. 1.

Reid was trance-like. He'd started every game the previous season, tossing 24 touchdowns to 11 interceptions. His completion percentage had been 55.4 percent, he'd rushed for 500 yards, and he'd been the 16th rated QB in the nation. He'd been a semifinalist for the Davey O'Brien Award, given to the country's top QB. And they were benching him after only two games?

He remembers mumbling, "OK, coach," because it was his instinct to be nonconfrontational. It's why his professors and teammates loved him. And, other than that Oklahoma game in 2006, he usually loved everybody back. So he didn't stomp his feet.

Instead, he left Gundy's office and stood and watched the team get walloped by Troy, 41-23. Then, he found a shoulder to lean on: His mother's.

She'd traveled all day to get to the Troy game, and was exhausted and hadn't eaten. She saw Reid chowing from a postgame box of Popeye's Chicken, and she stole it from him when his cell phone rang. When Reid hung up, he saw his mom with the box, talking to a male reporter. Reid walked over, grabbed a piece, ate it on the curb, and returned for more. When the reporter left, Rajika urged her son to ask Gundy why he was benched. And they said their goodbyes.

That next Monday, Reid asked Gundy, "Coach, why am I not playing? I'm the starting quarterback." Gundy's answer was, "I don't feel like you're being productive enough." Reid's head ached. He told Gundy, "You've just been waiting to pull the rug out." Gundy denied it and said Robinson was simply playing better.

"I thought my life was over," Reid says.

He almost quit and, on the night before their next game against Texas Tech, considered climbing out his hotel window so Gundy would have to kick him off the team. Instead, he showed up for the next day's pregame breakfast, where, curiously, not one copy of the local Oklahoman newspaper could be found. Reid thought nothing of it, but, truth was, every copy of the paper had been confiscated. Even in the hotel gift shop.

Why? Because a writer had finally gotten brave.

That morning, a columnist from the Oklahoman, Jenni Carlson, wrote that Reid was benched for being soft, for not playing through injuries, for being coddled by his mom. And, to prove her point, Carlson wrote Rajika had fed her son chicken after the Troy game.

In a lot of ways, it was a cheap shot -- because Rajika had fed no one but herself and because Carlson hadn't even been at the Troy game. But, in a lot of ways, the article reeked of everything the OSU coaches had been saying behind closed doors. Yes, Rajika had been a concern (remember the Missouri game in '05). And, yes, the staff felt Reid was made of tin.

Eventually, after an emotional 49-45 OSU victory, the article found its way to Gundy. He downed a Red Bull and quickly scanned it. And what he said, in his postgame news conference, ripped the doors of their hinges.

It was his inflections that made the rant famous. And his condescension toward the writer, Carlson. And the empathy he seemed to show for Reid.

It was lines like: "Here's all that kid did. He goes to class. He's respectful to the media! He's respectful to the public! And he's a good kid. And he's not a professional athlete and he doesn't deserve to be kicked when he's down."

Or the line of all lines: "Come after me! I'm a man! I'm 40! I'm not a kid. Write something about me, or our coaches. Don't write about a kid that does everything right, that's heart's broken and then say the coaches said he was scared. That ain't true!"

After Gundy was done, after he'd stormed out saying, "It makes me want to puke," there was hardy applause. Some fans had slipped into the news conference, and they liked the way Gundy had strutted around, the way he'd defended the kid.

Problem was, no one realized he'd offended the kid.

Reid was caught off guard. Here was a coach who'd been burying him and now he was going to war for him? It didn't add up. "At first, everything [Gundy] was saying sounded real and true," Rajika says. "But I'm a believer where there is smoke, there's fire."

In other words, Bobby and Rajika Reid felt info in Carlson's column came indirectly from Gundy or his staff. ("I'd have a hard time agreeing with that," Gundy says.)

In other words, they felt Gundy's rant was fake.

"Honestly, the way I took it, I felt like it was all a front," Reid says. "That it was all a big show. It didn't feel genuine."

Rajika: "It wasn't the truth. If it was the truth and this kid does everything right, why wasn't he back on the field?"

Gundy: "The last thing I would ever do would be to draw up some production to say in front of the camera. The first reason is because I don't have any interest in doing that. The second reason is I don't have time to do it. ... I didn't direct it toward football, I directed it toward he had done everything right. If they thought it wasn't genuine then obviously they have a right to their opinion. I'm not concerned with changing their mind."

In the days following the rant, Reid and Rajika waited for Gundy's call, a call that wouldn't come. During the tirade, the coach seemed hurt for Reid. So why wasn't Gundy asking Reid how he felt?

"Here's what I did," Gundy says, sighing. "I went to the team and told them, 'What's happened is over. And if anybody has any questions about why it happened or how it transpired, come see me in my office. Otherwise, I'm done with it.'

"[Reid] certainly heard that. He was in the front row. He could've come in at any time."

Instead, Reid bit his tongue, certain he and Gundy were through. "Our relationship after that kind of faded away," Reid says. "When that rant happened, I was like, 'Blugggh, I don't think this is for me anymore.' ''

Unfortunately, there was still three-fourths of a season to play.

Unfortunately, at the next home game, fans chanted: "I'm a man. I'm 40."

Unfortunately, Reid didn't own earplugs.



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Reid sank into depression. "He'd tell me, 'Bro', I cry myself to sleep almost every night,' " says fullback John Johnson.

What kept him going was school. He was only months away from a degree in education, as a redshirt junior, and he figured he'd go to practice, graduate and then get out of Dodge. It was a good plan, too, if he hadn't surfed onto YouTube.

Gundy's rant was all over the Web site, and Reid hadn't managed to avoid it. He saw a new Toyota commercial spoofing Gundy ("Buy from me! I'm a man! I'm 40!"). And he saw a fake Coors Light Commercial (Interviewer: "You look a little young to be drinking. Don't you have to be 21?" Gundy: "I'm a man! I'm 40!").

"It was funny, but it wasn't funny," Reid says. "I was like, 'They're getting out of hand with this.' ''

It didn't help that Robinson was having one of the finest seasons in OSU history (23 TD passes, 847 yards rushing). It made Gundy look brilliant, and the coach deserved credit for the switch. He'd made a business move -- the kind coaches make all over the country -- and all Reid could do was wait for one more set of downs.

Two weeks after the rant at Texas A&M, that's what happened. Robinson suffered a concussion that day, and Reid entered and went 6-of-9 for 72 yards. But a late rally fell short, 24-23, and Reid was pointed back to the bench.

The final indignity came the next week. With OSU leading Nebraska 45-14, Gundy put Reid in with 35 seconds left -- just to kneel on the ball. It seemed cruel, and Johnson remembers the OSU fans cat-calling, "Hey Bobby Reid, we don't need you now! Game over!"

Reid took his snap, said nothing and went home. To pack.

"That game was the breaking point for Reid," Rajika says. "He felt totally humiliated. He said, 'I'm not taking this anymore.' ''

Rather than throw his own rant at Gundy, Reid skipped two days of practice. But he didn't want to be a quitter. So he returned, arms folded.

He ended up throwing only 14 passes after the rant, and, when the season ended after an Insight Bowl appearance, Reid grabbed his diploma and loaded his car. At the final team function, he tried sneaking out a side door. But Gundy noticed him and asked him to join an impromptu team photograph. Again, Reid bit his lip and gave a faux smile. It's the same smile he'd been feigning all season, which is why most OSU staffers had no idea he was suffering. He felt he'd been the bigger man ... and he wasn't even 40.

"Being 40 doesn't make you a man," Rajika says, referring to Gundy. "It's your character that makes you a man. Your integrity. That's what makes you a man. Not how old you are. I read a Chinese proverb one time in a restaurant, and it said, 'A fool at 40 is a fool always.' That tells you everything."

Reid decided he'd never play college football again, and applied for the 2008 NFL draft. People at OSU chuckled, thinking, "If he can't play for us, how is he going to play pro?" But Gundy told them: Reid might just get drafted. He said that, in workouts, Reid will look like a million bucks.

The only question would be whether NFL scouts knew about everything else: the baggage, the article, the rant, the depression, YouTube.

Hopefully they wouldn't. Because it'd make them want to puke.




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Problem was, Reid's body language was brutal. If an NFL scout had watched him this February, they would've closed their notepad and shuffled off. He had no fire, no swagger, no gleam in his eye.

But little did Reid know, a local coach at Texas Southern University had something in mind. His name was Johnnie Cole, and even though he'd just inherited an 0-11 team, he had a plan: Get Bobby Reid.

Cole had to sell Reid fast. He told him he'd tutored Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson at Alabama State, that he knew how to take a SWAC quarterback to the NFL. He told him he'd run a pro offense, with bootleg and play-action packages, that there'd be no gimmicky spread offense. He said, "You've got this cloud over you. They're questioning your heart. All it takes is a year to get it back."

Reid weighed it all, and withdrew from the draft. In the end, Cole -- a former QB at TSU -- promised Reid there wouldn't be a Zac Robinson looking over his shoulder. He promised he didn't drink Red Bull. Reid's smile resurfaced.

He was humble, too. Reid was once supposed to be Vince Young, but now he was practicing under goalposts that needed a paint job. Most would've turned up their nose at the opportunity, but Reid bunkered down. By the time spring practice began, this April 7, Reid was the unquestioned leader of the team.

"I've coached a lot of 'em, including Tarvaris Jackson, and Reid's special," Cole says. "I think he's going to be a first-day guy in the 2009 draft. If he'd left this year, he'd have been just a guy, so I think his decision to come back made him a couple million. He's got his swagger back. You should see that arm. The players are already following him."

He'll play this coming season against the Gramblings and the Alcorn States. But he probably won't be on TV, probably won't be on YouTube, probably won't watch Oklahoma State and probably ... won't read the newspaper.

"What I experienced up there in Oklahoma, something was taken away from me," he says. "Now I'm just trying to get it back. There was talk out there that I was soft and all that crap. But I just want everybody to know I'm not going anywhere. You can try to knock me down, but I'm standing on my feet strong."

It's just what he wanted to tell the co-ed at that party last year:

I'm a man. I'm 22.



Tom Friend is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine.

NoMyths
04-11-2008, 10:27 PM
That article doesn't help Reid look less like a wuss, unfortunately.

Vegas Vic
04-12-2008, 12:49 AM
What is it about Oklahoma State football coaches and meltdowns during press conferences?

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Crim
04-12-2008, 01:35 AM
Reid needs a testicle transplant, seems to me. Seems like Gundy put in the QB who could help the team more, but Reid says "something got taken away" from him?

Cowboy up.

BishopMVP
04-12-2008, 03:16 AM
That article doesn't help Reid look less like a wuss, unfortunately.True dat, but it jibes with my earlier suspicions that Jenni Carlson is a terrible reporter and should not be writing for a newspaper. She's attacking a college players character off hearsay from an away game she didn't even attend? I hope she's been fired or assigned to the gossip section by now.

As for Reid, he comes off sounding bad, but I've been in the exact situation where the team is winning with you playing, you miss a week and suddenly someone else has entrenched themselves in your spot. It's somewhat annoying but acceptable as long as the player is better than you and the team is winning, but when the team is losing and you know you can do a better job than the kids on the field it's about the worst feeling in the world.

BishopMVP
04-12-2008, 03:25 AM
Reid needs a testicle transplant, seems to me. Seems like Gundy put in the QB who could help the team more, but Reid says "something got taken away" from him?

Cowboy up.That's assuming the coach really did pick the best QB. The time Reid flipped out the other QB couldn't score last drive and beat OU, and then the 1st week he was sat they lost by 18 to Troy. IDK, people seem to love Robinson and his performance, but 6-6 before a bowl win vs. Indiana doesn't lead me to believe Gundy did his best possible coaching job there.