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SnDvls
10-23-2007, 10:05 AM
Welcome to the first edition of Love 'em or Hate 'em. Hopefully this will be a long series on players, teams, leagues ect.

Up first is, Terrell Owens.

Terrell Owens is a 12 year NFL veteran who currently plays for the Dallas Cowboys. He is know by many fans simply by his initinals T.O. and as one of the more productive, but outspoken players in the league. A five time Pro Bowl WR pulling in 835 passes for 12,271 yards and 119 TDs (2 rushing). Owens was drafted in the thrid round in 1996 by the San Francisco 49ers and has also played for the Philadelphia Eagles before his current team the Cowboys.
Some of his more animated antics on the field did not result in statics though. On September 24, 2000 in Dallas, Terrell Owens showed off his excitement after his two touchdown catches by running from the endzone to midfield and celebrating on the Dallas Cowboys' famous star logo. The second time Owens made a trip to the star, then Cowboys safety George Teague hit him during the celebration, sending him sprawling to the turf. Teague would be ejected for his actions, while Owens was suspended for a week by his head coach and was fined $24,000 which was equal to a week's pay.

to read more about Terrell Owens see his player page at http://www.nfl.com/players/terrellowens/careerstats?id=OWE755129
or his page on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrell_Owens

So do you Love 'em or Hate 'em? Discuss
Honolulu_Blue
10-23-2007, 10:05 AM
Hate 'em.

Movin' on...
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 10:07 AM
Love 'em. Say what you will, but he plays hard every down.
rkmsuf
10-23-2007, 10:09 AM
Yeah but what I want to know is who is more now. Someone should do a series on that.
larrymcg421
10-23-2007, 10:33 AM
Love 'em. Say what you will, but he plays hard every down.

Doesn't mean much when his disruptive attitude hurts the team.
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 10:33 AM
Doesn't mean much when his disruptive attitude hurts the team.

McNabb puking hurts the team.
Kodos
10-23-2007, 10:43 AM
This one was certainly easy to answer.
Fidatelo
10-23-2007, 10:43 AM
Love 'em. Say what you will, but he plays hard every down.

You mean like all those downs when he drops the ball on easy catches because he isn't concentrating?
Dr. Sak
10-23-2007, 10:44 AM
I won't question the guy's heart on the field but his off the field he is an ass.
SnDvls
10-23-2007, 10:50 AM
This one was certainly easy to answer.

I'll try to make them harder next time ;)

just needed to get an initinal gauge of interest
chesapeake
10-23-2007, 11:04 AM
"Hate" is too strong for my feelings about Owens. But his act has certainly grown tiresome.
SnDvls
10-23-2007, 11:07 AM
"Hate" is too strong for my feelings about Owens. But his act has certainly grown tiresome.

then think of it as Like 'em or Dislike 'em and vote that way...I'm using the terms Love & Hate as most "talk sports" people do, not in the true Hate them sense.
gstelmack
10-23-2007, 11:09 AM
Your description is missing the whole "forced a trade to a team of his choosing, then forced his way off that team when it didn't go quite his way" set of episodes.
SnDvls
10-23-2007, 11:21 AM
Your description is missing the whole "forced a trade to a team of his choosing, then forced his way off that team when it didn't go quite his way" set of episodes.

See the two links for more info :)
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 11:21 AM
I guess the Super Bowl performance has given me blinders or something. But he became one of my favourite receivers after that game.
TCY Junkie
10-23-2007, 11:30 AM
"Hate" is too weak for my feelings about Owens.

I have not watched a cowboys game since the trade, when Jerry Jones signed somebody who disgraced the cowboys midfield logo I could not believe it.

I rather have chad johnson, mike vick, and oj simpson on my team then him, at least they have not disrespected the other team like Owens did.
rkmsuf
10-23-2007, 11:34 AM
"Hate" is too weak for my feelings about Owens.

I have not watched a cowboys game since the trade, when Jerry Jones signed somebody who disgraced the cowboys midfield logo I could not believe it.

I rather have chad johnson, mike vick, and oj simpson on my team then him, at least they have not disrespected the other team like Owens did.

there's no way you haven't watched a cowboy game since the trade if you are a fan of the team
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 11:37 AM
"Hate" is too weak for my feelings about Owens.

I have not watched a cowboys game since the trade, when Jerry Jones signed somebody who disgraced the cowboys midfield logo I could not believe it.

I rather have chad johnson, mike vick, and oj simpson on my team then him, at least they have not disrespected the other team like Owens did.

Nice priorities there. Respect > animal abuse and murder. ;)
rkmsuf
10-23-2007, 11:39 AM
Nice priorities there. Respect > animal abuse and murder. ;)


alleged
larrymcg421
10-23-2007, 11:39 AM
McNabb puking hurts the team.

And? How does that excuse Terrell Owens for his actions?
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 11:53 AM
alleged

Oh yeah, sorry.
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 11:55 AM
And? How does that excuse Terrell Owens for his actions?

It doesn't, but that was a player-defining moment for me. :) Combine that with finding most of his antics entertaining, and liking how he plays when I see him play... and I Love 'em.

I guess I just don't watch enough games, but he seems to go to the middle a lot, and isn't a horrible blocker.
Atocep
10-23-2007, 12:44 PM
It doesn't, but that was a player-defining moment for me. :) Combine that with finding most of his antics entertaining, and liking how he plays when I see him play... and I Love 'em.

I guess I just don't watch enough games, but he seems to go to the middle a lot, and isn't a horrible blocker.

TO does go over the middle. He also short-arms the ball if he thinks he's going to get hit.
Raiders Army
10-23-2007, 01:04 PM
He's okay.
Fidatelo
10-23-2007, 01:06 PM
Owens is a great receiver, and in the grand scheme of things his antics are not criminal or otherwise 'wrong'.

That said, I think I'd really hate to be on the guy's team regardless of the above. You can be great at your job and not a criminal and still be a total dick.
Pumpy Tudors
10-23-2007, 01:19 PM
I rather have chad johnson, mike vick, and oj simpson on my team then him, at least they have not disrespected the other team like Owens did.
I'm not sure how Chad Johnson got lumped in with Michael Vick and O.J. Simpson. You could've chosen eight better examples than Chad Johnson. Actually, there are even more than eight examples if you had chosen from teams other than the Bengals.
MrBug708
10-23-2007, 01:29 PM
Has TO ever been in trouble with the law?
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 02:39 PM
Has TO ever been in trouble with the law?

Not that I know of.
MikeVic
10-23-2007, 02:40 PM
I'm not sure how Chad Johnson got lumped in with Michael Vick and O.J. Simpson. You could've chosen eight better examples than Chad Johnson. Actually, there are even more than eight examples if you had chosen from teams other than the Bengals.

I don't understand either! I think quite a few people would take Chad Johnson over T.O. I like both of them, so it's a hard decision.
Vince
10-23-2007, 02:57 PM
T. O. Has helped me realize that I am indeed a homer. While he was a Niner, I clearly was an apologist for him, defending his actions with his play. Now, I just can't stand the guy.
JeeberD
10-23-2007, 04:55 PM
Check the sig...
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
10-23-2007, 05:17 PM
Steroid user!
ISiddiqui
10-23-2007, 05:25 PM
I like TO. he amuses me most of time and plays hard. His performance in the Super Bowl was just amazing.
Kodos
10-23-2007, 05:53 PM
Chad Johnson would make for a better poll. I tend not to like guys who crave attention, but he seems harmless, and is a dedicated worker.
cuervo72
10-23-2007, 06:23 PM
I like TO. he amuses me most of time and plays hard. His performance in the Super Bowl was just amazing.

Despite being an Eagles fan, I still have a hard time actively disliking Owens. "He amuses me" is a pretty good summation.

(On this...I am having a hard time disliking this incarnation of the Cowboys. I must be getting soft. But I really didn't like Jimmy's Cowboys, and LOATHED Michael Irvin. But it's very hard to dislike Romo, and very hard to dislike Wade Phillips. They just seem like decent, happy-go-luckish guys.)
Andiamo
10-23-2007, 06:54 PM
I won't question the guy's heart on the field but his off the field he is an ass.

Does "off the field" include the side lines where he's yelling at various quarterbacks? Oh just wait . . . it'll happen in Dallas too. His "friendship" with Romo won't last ;)
johnnyshaka
10-23-2007, 06:59 PM
I'm an Eagles' fan...never wanted him on my team, glad he's gone, and never want him back.
Crim
10-23-2007, 07:14 PM
"Hate" is too weak for my feelings about Owens.

I have not watched a cowboys game since the trade, when Jerry Jones signed somebody who disgraced the cowboys midfield logo I could not believe it.

I rather have chad johnson, mike vick, and oj simpson on my team then him, at least they have not disrespected the other team like Owens did.

:eek:

Johnson >> Owens >>>> Vick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simpson.

I'd take Chad on my team, in a heart beat. But prefering Vick and Simpson to TO? Man, that's just egregious.
CU Tiger
10-23-2007, 09:50 PM
Hate em..
I am about as die hard as it gets as a Cowboys fan but I find it hard to even cheer for this team knowing he is on it.

He is, to me, the epitome of everything that is wrong with sports.

And the Dallas Star incident just cemented my hatred for him and ever lasting adoration for "22". Each showed the right and wrong way to make a statement.
TCY Junkie
10-23-2007, 10:11 PM
Was a big fan of Cowboys, started about the 1-15 season and ended when they signed Owens. Most likely be a fan again after Jerry Jones and Owens leave. I would rather watch them go 0-16 the rest of my life then have Owens. I have watched less than a half of nfl games total this season. Just can not stand most of the nfl players.

I like players like Barry Sanders who handed the ball to the ref after scoring .
BYU 14
10-23-2007, 10:17 PM
No question about his skill, but it is all down hill from there. To me he is as useful as Jessica Alba would be if she had a Penis.
JeeberD
10-23-2007, 10:45 PM
And the Dallas Star incident just cemented my hatred for him and ever lasting adoration for "22". Each showed the right and wrong way to make a statement.

George Teague is STILL the fucking MAN!

http://b9.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00361/96/79/361959769_l.gif

:)
duckman
10-23-2007, 10:52 PM
George Teague is STILL the fucking MAN!

http://b9.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00361/96/79/361959769_l.gif

:)

Teague is awesome. :D
Andiamo
10-23-2007, 11:11 PM
I'm embarrased and sad watching him in his old Niner uniform. He ruined that team
Pumpy Tudors
10-24-2007, 08:00 AM
You know, maybe it's the hockey fan in me talking, but I wish people would let the whole "star" thing go. Owens went after the star one time, and then when he tried to do it again, Teague made him pay. A guy screwed up, someone made him pay the price, and that should be the end of it if the guy doesn't try to do it again. It was an on-field issue that got settled on the field.

Personally, I think Owens' blatant disrespect for his coaches and teammates in San Francisco and Philadelphia is far worse than any of his on-field antics, but that's just me.
Noop
10-24-2007, 08:47 AM
I like him.
Izulde
10-24-2007, 09:21 AM
T.O. plays with a passion and heart that a lot of people don't. Yeah, he has his meltdown moments, but I think in some ways you have to be a little off to produce the kind of legendary performances he's capable of (like in that Super Bowl).

I really empathize with him, actually.
Kodos
10-24-2007, 09:23 AM
Despite being an Eagles fan, I still have a hard time actively disliking Owens. "He amuses me" is a pretty good summation.

(On this...I am having a hard time disliking this incarnation of the Cowboys. I must be getting soft. But I really didn't like Jimmy's Cowboys, and LOATHED Michael Irvin. But it's very hard to dislike Romo, and very hard to dislike Wade Phillips. They just seem like decent, happy-go-luckish guys.)

I find myself liking Romo a good bit. But that doesn't mean that I didn't jump for joy when he screwed up in the playoffs last season. :D
dime
10-24-2007, 11:09 AM
so...when did the cowboy logo become the virgin mary? he's worse than OJ and vick? please.

TO is just a tempermental, troubled man who needs attention and probably is a self-loathing homosexual or something. I'd much rather endure his antics on my TV once a week than suffer them in my workplace or on an airplane, etc etc.
TCY Junkie
10-24-2007, 11:45 AM
[quote]so...when did the cowboy logo become the virgin mary? he's worse than OJ and vick? please.

When I was ten thats when. Owens would be the last person I would want to see in a cowboys uniform, not the worst person in the world. There is a difference.
Pumpy Tudors
10-24-2007, 11:57 AM
so...when did the cowboy logo become the virgin mary? he's worse than OJ and vick? please.

TO is just a tempermental, troubled man who needs attention and probably is a self-loathing homosexual or something
Uhhh... I was with you until the bolded part.
Desnudo
10-24-2007, 12:01 PM
Knucklehead, but hate is too strong a word.