What happened to Hell Atlantic?

[Anthony]

why is my 1st name being used as my board name? did i get in trouble again and Hell Atlantic is being "retired" from FOFC?

[Anthony]

and i see mattjones4heisman is now shortened to MJ4H. this is getting silly. this is like bizarro FOFC.

[MJ4H]

?

I asked to have my name changed.

[Greyroofoo]

Who the hell is Dean Houston?

[Dr. Sak]

Same here!

[Anthony]

and now bsak is Dr. Sak?

what's going on? is this place being hacked? my sense of up and down is fading. i'm getting dizzy. too much change.

help.

[DaddyTorgo]

that blows

[Vegas Vic]

Who the hell is Dean Houston?

And why did he slap that kid?

[Anthony]

i'm succumbing to the pressure of my own confusion. anthony is a great name, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't have the pizzazz of Hell Atlantic.


also, when i was a kid, i would pronounce it "pizza's" whenever i would read the word pizzazz.

[Schmidty]

I personally think it should have been "Cassole".

[Schmidty]

And here's a token :)

[Zelig]

I think I missed some things.

[Raiders Army]

I like HA instead of Anthony. Anthony makes me think of Antmeister.

[Schmidty]

I like HA instead of Anthony. Anthony makes me think of Antmeister.

Yeah. Me too.

[Poli]

Name check.

[Anthony]

how can i change it back? i don't want anthony as my board name.

[Dr. Sak]

PM Ben E Lou and beg for forgiveness.

[Schmidty]

I think I'm going to ask to change my name to Pixxburgh Joe.

[Dr. Sak]

I think I'm going to ask to change my name to Pixxburgh Joe.

Nah why don't you be Dr Jap?

[Passacaglia]

I was reading an old WW game, and bsak changed to Dr. Sak in the middle of it. Weird stuff.

[Schmidty]

Nah why don't you be Dr Jap?

Because I'm not worthy.

Please bust out his picture. Thanks.

[Poli]

Racists.

[Schmidty]

Racists.

I actually hate NASCAR.

[Comey]

I actually hate NASCAR.

So, reverse racist? Or anti-redneck?

[Anthony]

too much jibber jabber, and not enough explanations.

[korme]

hell atlantic is one of the most significant/coolest nicks on the board... i hope you go back.

[korme]

I like HA instead of Anthony. Anthony makes me think of Antmeister.

++ when I first read Anthony, I thought Antmeister succumbed to the pressure and pulled a Dodgerchick ;)

[Anthony]

i want to go back. i don't know how.

[Anthony]

now i don't even get any PMs.


the communication on this message board is really stupid. this is obviously no longer a board glitch and is clearly intentional from the mods. if i said something/did something to deserve this then PM me or out with it already. you just don't change someone's name willy nilly and take away PM abilities and just don't say anything.



NOTE: bright side is my edit button hasn't been taken away.

[SackAttack]

On the bright side, it didn't get changed to king jackoff?

[korme]

now i don't even get any PMs.


the communication on this message board is really stupid. this is obviously no longer a board glitch and is clearly intentional from the mods. if i said something/did something to deserve this then PM me or out with it already. you just don't change someone's name willy nilly and take away PM abilities and just don't say anything.



NOTE: bright side is my edit button hasn't been taken away.


i mean you didnt request the change??

[Dutch]

What better?

Shorty or korne
Hell Atlantic or Anthony
Subby or Chris
Dutch or Mike
Maverick or Pete
Iceman or Tom
Goose or Nick
Viper or Mike
Jester or Rick
Cougar or Bill
Wolfman or Leonard
Slider or Ron
Merlin or Sam
Hollywood or Rick
Stinger or Tom

C'mon! This is easy! Don't mix your reality with my FOFC!!! :)

[Subby]

Maybe this is just a lifetime douchebag award from the mods.

[Poli]

On the bright side, it didn't get changed to king jackoff?Or to Goob.

[RedKingGold]

Maybe this is just a lifetime douchebag award from the mods.

Yup. And a great decision it is.

[duckman]

Name check....

[BYU 14]

Maybe Ben paid off Duke Cunningham to earmark a covert name changing operation under the guise of national security... :confused:

Now quit complaining and do my name proud!!

[DanGarion]

Too bad they didn't change it to "man who likes to fuck hoagies".

[Anthony]

i'm not interested in being a part of this community now. what kind of punishment is "we're going to change your board name to your real first name" anyway?

ban me then, this is just a fucking message board, literally one of multiple billions on the internet. if i can't post here then i'll find some other place to waste my time. at least give me the choice - "we can either ban you, or change your board name". i'd rather be banned than Hell Atlantic - a well known personality and icon in FOFC history - be erased. i've been here from the beginning and aren't interested in taking on a new board name. i've wrote some things over the years that, while in jest, could be taken the wrong way and i want to have a clear separation from real life from internet life.

look, we all know that the way i've posted was always going to lead up to me being banned. i'd rather be banned as Hell Atlantic than continue to post here as Anthony. i served my time in the box for a week. you think that's going to ever stop me from posting something off-color? no. you think my name being changed here is going to stop that? no, it's not. i don't like change, i rather move on to something else than have to change.

[Anthony]

"It's better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a lamb."
John Gotti

[digamma]

Hi Anthony!

[Passacaglia]

It was probably someone's dumb idea of a joke. Just PM someone, be a little patient, and it'll probably get taken care of. If it doesn't, peace out.

[primelord]

Oh that Anthony.

[TargetPractice6]

Anthony, Anthony, Anthony!

[Buccaneer]

Such a fuckin' drama queen.

[Lorena]

I seriously doubt that a mod would change his name, just for the hell of it. It's just another way to get attention and it worked!

BTW, this sig is better than the looooooooooooong one he had earlier.

[Lorena]

quick, someone create an Hell Atlantic alt!

[miked]

Bye.

[korme]

there's a shit ton of admins here, someone can change it nfairly easily i'd imagine

[MrBug708]

i'm not interested in being a part of this community now. what kind of punishment is "we're going to change your board name to your real first name" anyway?

ban me then, this is just a fucking message board, literally one of multiple billions on the internet. if i can't post here then i'll find some other place to waste my time. at least give me the choice - "we can either ban you, or change your board name". i'd rather be banned than Hell Atlantic - a well known personality and icon in FOFC history - be erased. i've been here from the beginning and aren't interested in taking on a new board name. i've wrote some things over the years that, while in jest, could be taken the wrong way and i want to have a clear separation from real life from internet life.

look, we all know that the way i've posted was always going to lead up to me being banned. i'd rather be banned as Hell Atlantic than continue to post here as Anthony. i served my time in the box for a week. you think that's going to ever stop me from posting something off-color? no. you think my name being changed here is going to stop that? no, it's not. i don't like change, i rather move on to something else than have to change.

Certainly

[NoMyths]

I'm so uninterested in this community that I constantly seek attention from its members while causing problems that have led to my boxing on several occasions, after which I was still so uninterested that I came back for more of the same. Everyone sucks if they don't love me, especially when I'm at my most abrasive.

Fixed that for you. Good luck at whatever new forum is lucky enough to have you. One piece of advice, though -- I'd wait at least a couple of weeks before informing all of them about how much of an icon you are, just to get some practice with the whole 'getting along with other people' thing, since it looks like you're planning a fresh start.

[Poli]

I always envisioned Hell Atlantic as "Sex" from "So You Think You Can Dance."

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[Lorena]

This might be more like it

http://frattinghard.com/wp-content/uploads/douche8.jpg

[korme]

I don't get it, why is everyone ripping HA? He can be off putting sometimes, but certainly you can understand if your username got changed?

[Toddzilla]

worst. gimmick. ever.

[Barkeep49]

At least his signature is shorter now.

[DanGarion]

I'd like to know if this is a just a ploy to get attention or if some douchebag actually changed his name without him asking...

Since his signin name would change and how would he know it's changed unless he requested it...

HRM?????

[DaddyTorgo]

I'd like to know if this is a just a ploy to get attention or if some douchebag actually changed his name without him asking...

Since his signin name would change and how would he know it's changed unless he requested it...

HRM?????

:+1:

[Eaglesfan27]

I LOL'd at Poli's post. I thought Anthony's response was interesting that he wants to keep real life/internet life separate. Maybe this is a mod's idea that he won't post as much outlandish over the line stuff if he can't hide behind his HA persona. Shrug.

[BYU 14]

I'd like to know if this is a just a ploy to get attention or if some douchebag actually changed his name without him asking...

Since his signin name would change and how would he know it's changed unless he requested it...

HRM?????

A-ha.......by George Watson....

Request to the mods to change dangarions name to Sherlock ;)

[Bad-example]

Ant-knee! ANT-knee! Hey Antknee!

The guy lives in New York. Just thought we should be pronouncing it correctly.

[Passacaglia]

I'd like to know if this is a just a ploy to get attention or if some douchebag actually changed his name without him asking...

Since his signin name would change and how would he know it's changed unless he requested it...

HRM?????

Maybe his cookies still worked, and his member ID was the same? Unless that's not what you're asking. Anyway, I don't think it's implausible that he didn't find out until making a post, or seeing one of his old posts.

[Flasch186]

unless of course HA had his IPOD stolen by someone who lives in the hood and HA drove over, by himself, let the guy take it from him to check it out and never came back with it....then when the guy logged on later, from the stolen Ipod HE actually changed HA's stuff to be Anthony....see he saw all the silly ass ridiculous shit HA has said in the past and realized, "shit, I dont wanna be known as that guy, I better change the username."

[Passacaglia]

unless of course HA had his IPOD stolen by someone who lives in the hood and HA drove over, by himself, let the guy take it from him to check it out and never came back with it....then when the guy logged on later, from the stolen Ipod HE actually changed HA's stuff to be Anthony....see he saw all the silly ass ridiculous shit HA has said in the past and realized, "shit, I dont wanna be known as that guy, I better change the username."

of course

[Lorena]

I saw the name change on Wednesday because I wondered if Antmeister changed his name mocking my name change, but after clicking on "Anthony"s profile, I noticed it was HA. If he's so pissed about a mod supposedly changing his name, why did it take him 2 days to speak up?

[Lorena]

dola,
and yeah, you need to login under the new username otherwise it wont' work. I tried logging in under my old username and it didnt' work.

[Izulde]

Busted.

[Groundhog]

dola,
and yeah, you need to login under the new username otherwise it wont' work. I tried logging in under my old username and it didnt' work.

Yeah, but if he was already "logged in" on his PC, it might still log him in anyway if it's linked to a userid number or something rather than the actual username itself.


(on a sorta related note, does anyone else find that they need to log in about 5 times outta 10 anyhow, even if they tick "remember me"?)

[Danny]

I only shut down my pc about once a week, so I often only need to log in once a week. If HA did the same, he could have been logged in during the change and not had to put in the new name.

[Lathum]

Who cares, what does he add to this community?

He basicly admited he exists to troll and push the envelope and expects to be banned at some point

[Groundhog]

Who cares, what does he add to this community?

He basicly admited he exists to troll and push the envelope and expects to be banned at some point

Honestly, from my perspective, the artist formerly known as HA is one of the real "characters" of this board. Nothing he says ever offends me precisely because I know that's what he's trying to do, and I find a good deal of it pretty funny and off the wall.

I enjoy a lot of the various discussions that go on here at FOFC, from the political to the sports to the whatever random topics of the day, and I think that it's a bit of a shame that a lot of the characters that used to give this community that extra little bit of flavour have slowly been driven away one by one over the years I've been here.

I don't condone trolling at all, but a lot of the guys who get written off as trolls and banned or made to feel completely unwelcome also had some interesting or funny stuff to contribute at times, and feel that the boards are worse off for not having them around anymore. I'm not going to name names, but I'm sure those who have been here as long (or longer) as me know who I mean.

[Subby]

"It's better to live one day as a lion than a hundred years as a lamb."
John Gotti
I'm pretty sure Gotti wasn't talking about chit-chat board personas.

This Anthony kid is a fucking nerd.

[RedKingGold]

I'd like to change my name from RedKingGold to Hell Atlantic please.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Who cares, what does he add to this community?


As though the same couldn't be asked about a significant percent of the board?

[Dr. Sak]

I only shut down my pc about once a week, so I often only need to log in once a week. If HA did the same, he could have been logged in during the change and not had to put in the new name.

This is correct. I haven't logged out and had to put in my new name yet from the switch.

[Julio Riddols]

Anthony is all about thick plots and grinders.

[Zelig]

Anthony is hard core. We don't even know.

[Draft Dodger]

I don't get it, why is everyone ripping HA? He can be off putting sometimes, but certainly you can understand if your username got changed?

right. it's not like someone changed it to korme or something

[Anthony]

You were given an ultimatum a while back to shape up or ship out. You shaped up, for a while, but have essentially gone back to the old behaviors that precipitated the initial ultimatum. Given the history, a week in the box was a small punishment for your most recent transgression--had that been the only punishment.

so now it's not enough for people to be put in the box. walk the line or DUN DUN DUNNNNN - you'll have your username changed.

as if i'm Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde and i act differently based on what my username is. whatever. i have Hell Atlantic displayed prominently in my sig so you fools know what time it is.

lorena - i look like that guy, just picture vin diesel instead of that kid. i don't have the guns or awesome pecs that vin has, but i also don't take steroids and unfortunately drink a lot of beer so i got a wee bit of a beer pouch. but i get "you look like vin diesel" several times a month. but popped collar, hat tilted to the side, ample size arms, grinning. yep, that's me. i don't wear pink, every playboy wears pink now. i'd wear it if it wasn't so prevailent. i look good in pink. i have a yearlong natural tan so tanned skin in pink is caliente.

whatever, i'm tired of complaing about the name. it'd just be good if people (ie, the mods/Ben) would send a PM first, let you know what's going on so that you don't think you've been hacked (which i essentially was). you just can't make up rules as you go. since when are the mods in the business of changing names? that's a rhetorical question, not an invitation from ben to give some smarmy smart alec response. its actually humorous now that conventional methods of punishment aren't sufficient for me. i'm really just a kitty cat, i'm harmless.

[Flasch186]

now it's just a name?

Maybe the change worked on you because, oh, at the top of the page youre screaming about how it's more than a name.

[korme]

right. it's not like someone changed it to korme or something

Yea, per my request...

Can't believe it actually was changed.. that's a bit childish and silly isn't it

[Anthony]

I only shut down my pc about once a week, so I often only need to log in once a week. If HA did the same, he could have been logged in during the change and not had to put in the new name.

no, my friend. i don't log off. what happened was ben flat out changed my username. one minute i was Hell Atlantic, the next minute i clicked on the "NCAA '09" thread and saw Kodos had answered a question of mine, only the person who asked the question wasn't Hell Atlantic, it was some awesomely good looking and witty guy named Anthony. POOF! just like that. add to that several people seemed to also have their names changed (MattJones=MJ4H; bsak=Dr. Sak) and i thought something weird was going on.

logging in/out had nothing to do with it. Hell Atlantic has been disabled (in name only - as if you can disable something's "awesomeness" just by calling it something else), i can only log in now as Anthony.

whatever. how about more communication and less shadowy gestapo crap? ok bye.

[Anthony]

now it's just a name?

Maybe the change worked on you because, oh, at the top of the page youre screaming about how it's more than a name.

well, you can see "Hell Atlantic" displayed very prominently in my sig, you can't miss it, so you know who the author is. and my modus operandi is to shoot first and ask questions later. now that enough time has elapsed i've since simmered. business as usual.


i find it funny that people consider me a troll. i don't think people know what that word really means. there's people who try to digitally attack or harass another person via the internet. i don't do that. then there's people who, toeing the line between funny and controversial/outrageous tend to go over the line a bit, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not.

just think - for something to be rude or offensive, someone has to be offended. if no one gets offended then that thing that otherwise would've been considered over the line is then just considered funny. it takes the sensitive few who can't brush off what is essentially words on a page from an anonymous poster to cry "troll! troll!". i defy anyone here to find a post where i attacked someone or harassed someone unprovoked. you won't find it. at least not from the last 3 or 4 years. this myth and fiction that i'm a troll started as a complaint from a couple sensitive people and over the years has been accepted as fact. but i just don't attack people willy nilly. that's what a troll does.

subby has a small scrotum that manufactures sperm that don't swim well.

that's unprovoked.

[Flasch186]

BTW, I agree. I'd be pissed if all of a sudden my screenname were changed. You grow to like the name I guess. That being said I think some people are closer to the "line" whatever that means than others and invite consequences that maybe no one had thought about before...

[Anthony]

I LOL'd at Poli's post. I thought Anthony's response was interesting that he wants to keep real life/internet life separate. Maybe this is a mod's idea that he won't post as much outlandish over the line stuff if he can't hide behind his HA persona. Shrug.


yes, i'm clearly out in the open now. i'm naked.


hold me.

ok, i move on to other things now. mystery solved.

[Sun Tzu]

Aparently the NOFL has both lost, and gained a member at the same exact time, and they are the same person. Still I can't help feeling like this was a downgrade.

wb

[digamma]

Yet another reason to be thankful of the board feature that allows you to turn signatures off.

Though, it is a bit of a trade off...with signatures off, I don't get to be reminded that that small scrotumed Subby is such an idiot that he misspelled "invisible."

[ISiddiqui]

Ah... how I love the inter FOFC fighting. It provides something to read on those boring days.

[TCY Junkie]

I believed Hell Atlantic. The more I posted on here the less I liked it. But the way the mods act, I totally believed they would do something like that. After all this is HA not just an attention whore, that doesn't add anything to this board. I refuse to call you by your screen name, you have earned my respect.

[miked]

Aparently the NOFL has both lost, and gained a member at the same exact time, and they are the same person. Still I can't help feeling like this was a downgrade.

wb

Don't worry, he'll quit soon.

[Subby]

subby has a small scrotum that manufactures sperm that don't swim well.

that's unprovoked.
They don't swim at all, actually.

[MacroGuru]

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/mhead46/AttentionWhore.jpg

[Axxon]

I believed Hell Atlantic. The more I posted on here the less I liked it. But the way the mods act, I totally believed they would do something like that. After all this is HA not just an attention whore, that doesn't add anything to this board. I refuse to call you by your screen name, you have earned my respect.

All 174 posts in a year and a half? I'm glad you gave us a fair chance there. I can think of 174 posts at least that I made that got bad reactions.


I don't normally go after post counts but when someone specifically brings them up....

[kcchief19]

I'm starting to buy into the conspiracy theory on TCY Junkie. I'd love to see an IP match on that account.

[Buccaneer]

I'm starting to buy into the conspiracy theory on TCY Junkie. I'd love to see an IP match on that account.

+1

[TCY Junkie]

All 174 posts in a year and a half? I'm glad you gave us a fair chance there. I can think of 174 posts at least that I made that got bad reactions.


I don't normally go after post counts but when someone specifically brings them up....

Let me state many people on here that aren't mods are far too awesome for me. I've been visiting since 3 months after FOF released. This isn't the place I thought it was when I got boxed and they didn't even respond to the messages I sent them that day. This really bothers me for a site I really think highly of.

Groundhog's second paragraph explains it better than what I can. It is my second sentence. I would apologize for being obtuse, its the way I communicate, but was told not to apologize anymore.

[st.cronin]

After all this is HA not just an attention whore.

what

[MrBug708]

what

Co-Signed

[Fidatelo]

Thoughts:

- Yet another case of SkyDork being SkyDork.

- I think it is borderline privacy infringement to use HA's real name, even if just his first. Misuse of moderator knowledge if nothing else.

- ++ on the TCY IP match.

[RedKingGold]

I think it is borderline privacy infringement to use HA's real name, even if just his first. Misuse of moderator knowledge if nothing else.

Ummm.....sure.

[Sun Tzu]

Yes...but what flavor is it?

[Fidatelo]

Ummm.....sure.

Ok, well, maybe we should change your nick to part of your phone number or something? If HA wants to make his real name, even part of it, known to the board then fine. But for a mod to take private info from his account and make it public is inappropriate and abusive, no matter how minor.

[RendeR]

BWAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!*hack* *cough* *Cackle*


AAAAAAHAHahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



*falls down* Anthony...BWWWAAAAAhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah

[RendeR]

Thoughts:

- Yet another case of SkyDork being SkyDork.

- I think it is borderline privacy infringement to use HA's real name, even if just his first. Misuse of moderator knowledge if nothing else.

- ++ on the TCY IP match.


A single post made at any point that states his real name eliminates this issue.

[RendeR]

Yes...but what flavor is it?



used hoagie flavor.

[Antmeister]

Ok, well, maybe we should change your nick to part of your phone number or something? If HA wants to make his real name, even part of it, known to the board then fine. But for a mod to take private info from his account and make it public is inappropriate and abusive, no matter how minor.

He's mentioned his name many times. In fact, check out his FTB. And I see nothing wrong with the name Anthony. Sound perfect to me.

[TCY Junkie]

what

After all, this is HA, not just an attention whore,

You must of read it wrong.:D

[Lorena]

A single post made at any point that states his real name eliminates this issue.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1219624&postcount=26

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=899943&postcount=463

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=884697&postcount=95

are just a few

[Fidatelo]

I don't think you guys get my point. It's not up to Ben E or any other mod to decide what portions of that private info are publicly available or otherwise. If HA wants to do it, that's his choice. And while I agree, it's not hard to figure out who HA is, this crossed a line, even if in a very un-impactful way.

But that's cool, I understand that Americans are getting used to having their rights infringed on by authority, so this shouldn't surprise me. /cheapshot

[Subby]

I don't think you guys get my point. It's not up to Ben E or any other mod to decide what portions of that private info are publicly available or otherwise. If HA wants to do it, that's his choice. And while I agree, it's not hard to figure out who HA is, this crossed a line, even if in a very un-impactful way.

But that's cool, I understand that Americans are getting used to having their rights infringed on by authority, so this shouldn't surprise me. /cheapshot
Once he posts it on a public message board, it's public.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking aboot.

/cheapshot

[Fidatelo]

Once he posts it on a public message board, it's public.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking aboot.

/cheapshot

Good one

[st.cronin]

Well, if this thread proves anything its that both Anthony and Ben are tools.

[digamma]

After all, this is HA, not just an attention whore,

You must of read it wrong.:D

I hate it when I of read things wrong.

[kcchief19]

I hate it when I of read things wrong.
TCY Junkie looking great in the preseason.

[st.cronin]

TCY Junkie looking great in the preseason.

Brilliant.

[Mustang]

In banning, everyone in FOFC has a name. His name is Hell Atlantic.

[JonInMiddleGA]

What I don't get is why not just ban him instead of this childish stunt (presuming that it all is what it appears to be at this point).

[Fidatelo]

What I don't get is why not just ban him instead of this childish stunt (presuming that it all is what it appears to be at this point).

It's the jbmagic edit button thing again. It boils down to bullying.

[MJ4H]

this is definitely a dick move

[Sun Tzu]

This is like the whole Alex Rodriguez and Madonna thing.

Who cares?

[Galaxy]

Yes...but what flavor is it?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04VS8Lke0UaSl/610x.jpg

[MikeVic]

I don't agree with this if it's mods changing a name for their amusement.

[TCY Junkie]

This is like the whole Alex Rodriguez and Madonna thing.

Who cares?


People that aren't mods should care just a little. They are changing the atmosphere here. If this was real world Gore would be bitching in here so much you wouldn't have to hear him else where.

As far as preseaon goes it doesn't last long enough. I get all worked up about the upcoming season and then peter out quickly.

[Subby]

People that aren't mods should care just a little. They are changing the atmosphere here.
You're probably next, Bertha.

[MacroGuru]

Ok.....

I don't see how people are thinking the mods did this....

When I had my name changed, I had to login under that new name, regardless if I had it set to remember me and such...which is how all my machines have it set up.

He had to request/do it on his own volition and then to get the perfect attention he wanted, we have all now posted in this thread acknowledging he is now Anthony and we are all falling into his social experiment of proving he can tool the board.

Honestly, I will apologize to him if it is proven the mods changed his name...but he is what he has always been, a tool seeking attention in a multitude of profound ways.

[JonInMiddleGA]

... if it is proven the mods changed his name

I think probably the more important thing is that I find that scenario entirely believable. And easily.

[Zelig]

Ok, I am locking this thread. I have the authority to do this, but who am I?

[TCY Junkie]

You're probably next, Bertha.

I haven't brought up my girlfriend on here before, why you talk about her. I already gave my name twice including in the last post. If you were closer I would fucking hunt you down and take your ass to a bar that always has a happy hour.

[digamma]

I've heard TGI Fridays has a fuckin' fantastic happy hour that you can always hit hard.

[Groundhog]

Honestly, I will apologize to him if it is proven the mods changed his name...but he is what he has always been, a tool seeking attention in a multitude of profound ways.

I see no real reason to doubt that his quote from Skydog's (presumably) PM was legit.

[TCY Junkie]

I've heard TGI Fridays has a fuckin' fantastic happy hour that you can always hit hard.

Thanks, but I don't think we would ever meat each other. I just wanted him to be pleased, but I obviously rub him the wrong way.

[digamma]

I see no real reason to doubt that his quote from Skydog's (presumably) PM was legit.

Is that in another thread? I didn't see any pm quotes here--maybe I missed it though. I thought Anthony was complaining about not having pm abilities.

[Lathum]

I haven't brought up my girlfriend on here before, why you talk about her. I already gave my name twice including in the last post. If you were closer I would fucking hunt you down and take your ass to a bar that always has a happy hour.

Another failed attempt at humor.

there are people around here that are witty and funny, you are not one of them

[TCY Junkie]

Another failed attempt at humor.

there are people around here that are witty and funny, you are not one of them

I fail all the time at things I don't attempt here. Does every thing with a dual meaning have to be a joke. I just wanted to say I wanted to be friends and if he wanted to take it the other way he could.

My next post was just implying some people don't get me here.

Don't worry I still like you, its a character flaw I have, I like everyone unless they injury my family.

[Lorena]

Thanks, but I don't think we would ever meat each other. I just wanted him to be pleased, but I obviously rub him the wrong way.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l148/BigJay863/not_funny.jpg

[Groundhog]

Is that in another thread? I didn't see any pm quotes here--maybe I missed it though. I thought Anthony was complaining about not having pm abilities.

Maybe It's not related to the name change, but I thought that's what this was referring to:

http://75.126.153.96/fofc/showpost.php?p=1785003&postcount=79

[TCY Junkie]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l148/BigJay863/not_funny.jpg

Like I said some people don't get me. You don't see me in that room?

I was just trying to tell if he was joking with me. I know 2 people that think I'm totally just one joke after another. The vast majority of my post aren't jokes, I probably have less than 5 jokes on here and most of those where right after I read the taco bell thread.

[miked]

I don't get why people keep implying they have all these rights and laws are being broken, it's really quite silly. You are using somebody else's bandwith that has selected certain people to be in charge. If you piss certain people off, or just are generally a tool, you can expect the people with admin powers to do as they please. Don't like it? I hear sportsdigs changed HA's name 2 weeks ago, join and post there.

Welcome to Hollywood.

[RedKingGold]

I don't get why people keep implying they have all these rights and laws are being broken, it's really quite silly. You are using somebody else's bandwith that has selected certain people to be in charge. If you piss certain people off, or just are generally a tool, you can expect the people with admin powers to do as they please. Don't like it? I hear sportsdigs changed HA's name 2 weeks ago, join and post there.

Welcome to Hollywood.

+1

Your "rights" mean jackshit in internet land.

[Fidatelo]

I'm not sure I meant to imply that laws were broken. If so, I should have gone to sleep earlier, but I agree, obviously no laws were broken. I'm not going to defend that portion of my statement any further, although I still think SkyDork crossed a line that makes me uneasy.

/now residing in Hollywood.

[cuervo72]

I LOL'd at Poli's post. I thought Anthony's response was interesting that he wants to keep real life/internet life separate. Maybe this is a mod's idea that he won't post as much outlandish over the line stuff if he can't hide behind his HA persona. Shrug.

Ding. Well, 95% of that anyway.

"Hell Atlantic" has been called a character (persona) by a few, that the act (general douchbaggery) was not the real person behind the keyboard. Well, many of us have had enough of that persona. If it is a persona - I don't think it is. In any event, boxings weren't working at toning HA's antics down. Not at all. So, what might? Accountability. No Hell Atlantic. Instead Hello, Anthony.


Now...I will say that it wasn't necessarily Ben E's idea. But, he agreed with implementing it (at least for a bit). I can't say though that his reasons for liking the idea were the same as those stated above - I'm thinking he is more of the group that gets a good chuckle out of HA, and is probably getting a good chuckle out of this thread.

[lighthousekeeper]

Ding. Well, 95% of that anyway.

"Hell Atlantic" has been called a character (persona) by a few, that the act (general douchbaggery) was not the real person behind the keyboard. Well, many of us have had enough of that persona. If it is a persona - I don't think it is. In any event, boxings weren't working at toning HA's antics down. Not at all. So, what might? Accountability. No Hell Atlantic. Instead Hello, Anthony.


Now...I will say that it wasn't necessarily Ben E's idea. But, he agreed with implementing it (at least for a bit). I can't say though that his reasons for liking the idea were the same as those stated above - I'm thinking he is more of the group that gets a good chuckle out of HA, and is probably getting a good chuckle out of this thread.

http://www.biggletech.com/stuff/forumpics/lame.jpg

[cuervo72]

Thoughts:

- Yet another case of SkyDork being SkyDork.

- I think it is borderline privacy infringement to use HA's real name, even if just his first. Misuse of moderator knowledge if nothing else.

- ++ on the TCY IP match.

I might be wrong on this, but I believe Solecismic has used first names on multiple occasions. Including Anthony's. (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=878456&highlight=anthony#post878456)

[st.cronin]

Ding. Well, 95% of that anyway.

"Hell Atlantic" has been called a character (persona) by a few, that the act (general douchbaggery) was not the real person behind the keyboard. Well, many of us have had enough of that persona. If it is a persona - I don't think it is. In any event, boxings weren't working at toning HA's antics down. Not at all. So, what might? Accountability. No Hell Atlantic. Instead Hello, Anthony.


Now...I will say that it wasn't necessarily Ben E's idea. But, he agreed with implementing it (at least for a bit). I can't say though that his reasons for liking the idea were the same as those stated above - I'm thinking he is more of the group that gets a good chuckle out of HA, and is probably getting a good chuckle out of this thread.

lame

unbelievably lame

[lighthousekeeper]

I might be wrong on this, but I believe Solecismic has used first names on multiple occasions. Including Anthony's. (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=878456&highlight=anthony#post878456)

He has, and I think it is also equally lame.

[Schmidty]

unbelievably lame

Is the lame, lame? Or the original post lame.

Your post is confusing my tired mind.

[lighthousekeeper]

Is the lame, lame? Or the original post lame.

You're post is confusing my tired mind.

Yes it's quite important - we all need to know!

[st.cronin]

Is the lame, lame? Or the original post lame.

You're post is confusing my tired mind.

Things which are lame:

Hell Atlantic
SkyDog
mods changing a username as "punishment"
quoting of pms
mods excusing SkyDogs absurd behavior
Ohio State football fans

[Subby]

miatas

[DaddyTorgo]

Ding. Well, 95% of that anyway.

"Hell Atlantic" has been called a character (persona) by a few, that the act (general douchbaggery) was not the real person behind the keyboard. Well, many of us have had enough of that persona. If it is a persona - I don't think it is. In any event, boxings weren't working at toning HA's antics down. Not at all. So, what might? Accountability. No Hell Atlantic. Instead Hello, Anthony.


Now...I will say that it wasn't necessarily Ben E's idea. But, he agreed with implementing it (at least for a bit). I can't say though that his reasons for liking the idea were the same as those stated above - I'm thinking he is more of the group that gets a good chuckle out of HA, and is probably getting a good chuckle out of this thread.

wait - you're a mod now??

[Fidatelo]

I might be wrong on this, but I believe Solecismic has used first names on multiple occasions. Including Anthony's. (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=878456&highlight=anthony#post878456)

Is he a mod?

[rkmsuf]

Things which are lame:

Hell Atlantic
SkyDog
mods changing a username as "punishment"
quoting of pms
mods excusing SkyDogs absurd behavior
Ohio State football fans


dying on disney rides
cellphones while driving
"prom"

[st.cronin]

rkmsuf should be a mod.

[BrianD]

Things which are lame:

Hell Atlantic
SkyDog
mods changing a username as "punishment"
quoting of pms
mods excusing SkyDogs absurd behavior
Ohio State football fans

dying on disney rides
cellphones while driving
"prom"

And, of course, Hugh Jackman.

[cuervo72]

wait - you're a mod now??

Nope, just bounce ideas off of SkyDog. As do others. Didn't know that was outlandish.


(also don't know why being a mod would be such an insane thought - not that I'd do it - as opposed to others we have here)

[rkmsuf]

rkmsuf should be a mod.

I ain't no sellout.

[DaddyTorgo]

Ohio - particularly the northeast part of the state - burn in hell

[RendeR]

Things which are lame:

Hell Atlantic
SkyDog
mods changing a username as "punishment"
quoting of pms
mods excusing SkyDogs absurd behavior
Ohio State football fans

You were going well until that bit...just when I was beginning to trust you more in WW too....bastard. ;)

Ohio - particularly the northeast part of the state - burn in hell

But you're not bitter....;.:devil:

[RendeR]

As for the Anthony/HA discussion, who cares? if he wasn't such a complete fuckwit he wouldn't be in the situation, can't say I have any real sympathy.

[Noop]

So his name was changed without his consent? If so then it screams abuse of power and continues to show how out of touch he has become with the board.

[Subby]

As for the Anthony/HA discussion, who cares? if he wasn't such a complete fuckwit he wouldn't be in the situation, can't say I have any real sympathy.
This is the first time I have 100% agreed with you since 2005. :thumbsup:

[Noop]

As for the Anthony/HA discussion, who cares? if he wasn't such a complete fuckwit he wouldn't be in the situation, can't say I have any real sympathy.

Yet you would defend a racist? (Well you were defending why someone else thought that guy was ok)

[Ksyrup]

FWIW, there was no discussion in the mod forum about doing this. I don't care one way or the other (it's Ben's board, he can do what he wants), but this wasn't some organized effort we all discussed openly and voted on. Although I will say for the record that I support banning HA because he was given a set of rules to play by in order to stay around the last time something like this happened, and he violated those rules. But again, I don't make the decisions around here.

[Noop]

How did this become his board?

[VPI97]

So his name was changed without his consent? If so then it screams abuse of power and continues to show how out of touch he has become with the board.
We are FOFC

[MikeVic]

And, of course, Hugh Jackman.

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[DaddyTorgo]

But you're not bitter....;.:devil:

idk if "bitter" is the right word. more like...disgusted...played...foolish.

[MikeVic]

Now we just need HA to be banned and him sending a racist PM to SkyDog. It's Phalid all over again. :p

[Lathum]

How did this become his board?

Ben owns the board. Literaly.

[Lathum]

I might be wrong on this, but I believe Solecismic has used first names on multiple occasions. Including Anthony's. (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=878456&highlight=anthony#post878456)

but wait...

he has never attacked anyone unprovoked.

[DaddyTorgo]

Ben owns the board. Literaly.

idk - now that the board is on OS if that can be said to be as true though. because he owns the vbb software?

i don't want to raise this whole thing (because frankly i behave and i don't really care), but as an interesting hypothetical argument, now that the board is hosted on OS, who really owns it.

[Noop]

Ben owns the board. Literaly.

If I remember correctly he wanted to buy software to upgrade the board but didn't want people to donate money or limited it to a few people. I was willing to donate...

[Ksyrup]

Why would who hosts it matter? When it was at Gamespy, what was the difference?

[Passacaglia]

Things which are lame:

Hell Atlantic
SkyDog
mods changing a username as "punishment"
quoting of pms
mods excusing SkyDogs absurd behavior
Ohio State football fans

cronin rules

[path12]

FOFC reminds me of Lord of the Flies at times.

[Raiders Army]

Interesting that if you quoted HA before, it still shows up as "Orginally Posted by Hell Atlantic".

[Lathum]

the "who owns the board " question came up a while back during the werewolf being moved incident ( a move that ultimetly was good in the long run for WW) and this is what Ben said about it.

To completely clarify this:

Yes, Blackie handed over ownership to me. It is 100% "my board." At its core, this is a fansite for Front Office Football that the original owner (Blackadar) didn't want any more, but didn't want to be abandoned, so he gave it over to someone else (me).

As far as financial interests...

1. I own and pay for the frontofficefootballcentral.com domain name.

2. Hosting is provided for free by GameSpy. We have a large hit count that helps their ad revenue significantly, I am told.

3. I own the license for the vbulletin forum software. When we first bought the software, I think for $160, I paid $40, and asked for 12 voluntary donations of $10 each. That way, I would pay for 25% of the original license out of my own pocket. (I think those numbers are correct, but if not, they're close). Those who donated were made aware before they gave that their donations bought them no interest, no part ownership, no special considerations, or anything like that about the board. I don't remember everyone who donated, and I know for a fact that at least one person who donated hasn't visited the board in a couple of years or so. For all I know I may have even suspended a contributor at one time or another. :p

4. A year or so ago, I paid 100% of the fee to have the vbulletin license extended so we could continue to upgrade it. That fee was around $30-$40.

[DanGarion]

He's mentioned his name many times. In fact, check out his FTB. And I see nothing wrong with the name Anthony. Sound perfect to me.

But the change of his name, if unrequested is quite douchebagery.

[VPI97]

the "who owns the board " question came up a while back during the werewolf being moved incident ( a move that ultimetly was good in the long run for WW) and this is what Ben said about it.
Operation Sports owns the domain now, while Ben remains the head moderator.

[DaddyTorgo]

like i said - i could really care less, because i behave (only been boxed once in what...6 years - 4 years of active posting)

[MacroGuru]

Well, damn thanks Mods for forcing me to do something I would never want to do, but since I am a man of my word....

Anthony....I am sorry for not believing you........:banghead:

[Lorena]

So is TCY Junkie and HA the same person? I must have missed an HA post that made the mods change his name.

[DanGarion]

I've posted this before and I'll post it again... Here are your "leaders".

Administrators
User Name Contact
Ben E Lou is offline Ben E Lou Send a private message to Ben E Lou
bronco92 is offline bronco92 Send a private message to bronco92
Ryan S is offline Ryan S Send a private message to Ryan S
Simms is offline Simms Send a private message to Simms

Super Moderators
User Name Contact
JeeberD is offline JeeberD Send a private message to JeeberD
Ksyrup is offline Ksyrup Send a private message to Ksyrup
QuikSand is online now QuikSand Send a private message to QuikSand
sachmo71 is offline sachmo71 Send a private message to sachmo71
TroyF is offline TroyF Send a private message to TroyF
wade moore is offline wade moore Send a private message to wade moore
WSUCougar is offline WSUCougar Send a private message to WSUCougar

[Subby]

Oh shi danagrion is gonna get him a posse together!

[cuervo72]

oh noes a posse

[DaddyTorgo]

posse commitus?

[NoMyths]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s149/NoMyths/tombstone.jpg

[DaddyTorgo]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s149/NoMyths/tombstone.jpg

winner

[Antmeister]

But the change of his name, if unrequested is quite douchebagery.

Well cuervo's interjection really has me puzzled now. Why not ban the guy if you feel multiple suspensions won't help. And what had transpired recently with HA that caused him to get in trouble....again. Not really siding with anyone. I just don't understand the dysfunctional relationship between mod and borderline troll (my opinion only).

By the way, I have to admit I find this thread highly entertaining since we have yet another FOFC drama of the month.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Operation Sports owns the domain now, while Ben remains the head moderator.

Which brings to mind something that I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I didn't really think of until this thread popped up.

What privacy policy is in force here now?
Operation Sports? An FOFC one? None?

If it's opsports policy, anyone interested should note that they're an opt-out site, otherwise they can sell your email to whomever.
Opt out info & details at http://www.operationsports.com/privacy.php

[Ksyrup]

I'm confused - cuervo said he wasn't a mod and I posted that the mods didn't have a specific discussion of this action in the mod forum, yet the discussion continues to center on "why did the mods do this?" What am I missing?

[rkmsuf]

I'm confused - cuervo said he wasn't a mod and I posted that the mods didn't have a specific discussion of this action in the mod forum, yet the discussion continues to center on "why did the mods do this?" What am I missing?

A mod did this and you are a card carrying mod union member.

Until you win the homecoming carnival you are subject to the president of the greek councils whims.

[Antmeister]

I'm confused - cuervo said he wasn't a mod and I posted that the mods didn't have a specific discussion of this action in the mod forum, yet the discussion continues to center on "why did the mods do this?" What am I missing?

Not I.

[Ksyrup]

A mod did this and you are a card carrying mod union member.

Where did cuervo say that? He said a few people - including himself, not a mod - had been talking to Ben about this and that Ben agreed with implementing it. Doesn't say a mod did it, or even came up with the idea. I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe I missed something on page 1 or 2. But everyone seems to be reacting to what cuervo posted on page 3.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm confused - cuervo said he wasn't a mod and I posted that the mods didn't have a specific discussion of this action in the mod forum, yet the discussion continues to center on "why did the mods do this?" What am I missing?

Are you trying to draw a distinction here between "a mod" vs "the mods"?
If so, then I at least follow what you're saying. If not, then color me confused.

Here's the bottom line: whoever is responsible made an asshat move. If that was an individual, then he acted in an asshat fashion (and borders dangerously close to being an asshat). If it was a group, the change the relevant pronouns.

edit to add: Doesn't say a mod did it ...
Now I'm really confused. Who else other than a mod can change someone's user name? Presumably someone from Operation Sports could I imagine but this seems awfully random for them to do. Are you trying to distinguish between "mods" vs "adminstrators" maybe? If so, I think that's a line being drawn too finely for the general use of the term "mod" here.

[rkmsuf]

Where did cuervo say that? He said a few people - including himself, not a mod - had been talking to Ben about this and that Ben agreed with implementing it. Doesn't say a mod did it, or even came up with the idea. I haven't read the whole thread, so maybe I missed something on page 1 or 2. But everyone seems to be reacting to what cuervo posted on page 3.

so ben isn't king of mods? master of his domain?

[Ksyrup]

I'm still confused as to why this is linked to a "mod" - I must be missing something in the posts (which is possible). It definitely wasn't a group decision, I can tell you that. But the discussion seems to be about the "mods" in general, in any event.

[Ksyrup]

so ben isn't king of mods? master of his domain?

Ben is more than a mod, he is the king. A "mod" is one of the group of people in the list dangarion posted.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It definitely wasn't a group decision, I can tell you that. But the discussion seems to be about the "mods" in general, in any event.

But ultimately each of you, by continuing participation as part of a mod/admin group that conducts themselves in such an asshattish fashion, is going to bear a portion of the responsibility. Essentially tainted by the company you keep.

[rkmsuf]

Ben is more than a mod, he is the king. A "mod" is one of the group of people in the list dangarion posted.

So what. So let's dance!

Bottom line is you are management.

[Ksyrup]

Now I'm really confused. Who else other than a mod can change someone's user name? Presumably someone from Operation Sports could I imagine but this seems awfully random for them to do. Are you trying to distinguish between "mods" vs "adminstrators" maybe? If so, I think that's a line being drawn too finely for the general use of the term "mod" here.

Yes, I draw a distinction between Ben and the mods, because as I've posted repeatedly before in these situations, we don't act proactively unless there's some kind of emergency. Ben takes unilateral action, we do not. This may have been Ben's decision to implement a suggestion someone (a mod or not) gave him privately, or in the context of one of his football leagues, I don't know, but it wasn't a "mod decision" in the sense that we discussed it, gave opinions on it and/or voted, and he implemented our decision.

With that clarification, I'll drop it.

[Eaglesfan27]

I hate it when I of read things wrong.

Catching up on this thread, and this is the best moment of the thread, yet.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Yes, I draw a distinction between Ben and the mods, because as I've posted repeatedly before in these situations, we don't act proactively unless there's some kind of emergency. Ben takes unilateral action, we do not.

Fair or not, if you're part of a corrupt system you're going to be connected with it, and by being a part of it, you do share in the responsibility.

[Ksyrup]

Fair or not, if you're part of a corrupt system you're going to be connected with it, and by being a part of it, you do share in the responsibility.

Um...I don't "participate" in unilateral decisions of board administrators. Ben's actions have nothing to do with what the mods are around for. That's the point.

And just to make clear, I'm not expressing an opinion on whether I agree with this or not. Just the idea that I somehow was involved in the decision.

[Ksyrup]

What exactly is my "responsibility" anyway? I don't find out about this stuff until you guys do, and sometimes (like now) several days later. What am I supposed to do - exercise a "virtual veto" over Ben's decision?

[MJ4H]

I have stepped down from moderating positions before because I did not want to be associated with the rest of the staff whose actions I found abhorrent. I agree that no matter whether or not you did it, your willing participation reflects on you.

[rkmsuf]

Um...I don't "participate" in unilateral decisions of board administrators. Ben's actions have nothing to do with what the mods are around for. That's the point.

And just to make clear, I'm not expressing an opinion on whether I agree with this or not. Just the idea that I somehow was involved in the decision.

Take a stand! Get involved!

[miked]

If people took their jobs as seriously as message boards, we may have the most productive society...evah!

[rkmsuf]

What exactly is my "responsibility" anyway? I don't find out about this stuff until you guys do, and sometimes (like now) several days later. What am I supposed to do - exercise a "virtual veto" over Ben's decision?

don't you guys have a shop steward?

[Subby]

Um...I don't "participate" in unilateral decisions of board administrators. Ben's actions have nothing to do with what the mods are around for. That's the point.

And just to make clear, I'm not expressing an opinion on whether I agree with this or not. Just the idea that I somehow was involved in the decision.
Ksyrup taking collateral damage!

Duck and cover!

[DaddyTorgo]

MJ4H - wtf happened to your name?? was that by your request??

[DaddyTorgo]

and what happened to bsak's name - was that by his request?

[KWhit]

To this entire thread, I say:

"Lighten up, Francis."

[BrianD]

I have stepped down from moderating positions before because I did not want to be associated with the rest of the staff whose actions I found abhorrent. I agree that no matter whether or not you did it, your willing participation reflects on you.

Wouldn't the same be said about anyone that still hangs out here? These types of moves aren't terribly new or surprising. Apparently the aren't egregious enough to get people to leave, so what, people just like to whine?

[Ksyrup]

I have stepped down from moderating positions before because I did not want to be associated with the rest of the staff whose actions I found abhorrent. I agree that no matter whether or not you did it, your willing participation reflects on you.

Then so be it. I haven't "willingly participated" in anything, other than giving my thoughts on issues Ben decides to ask us about and doing thread/post clean-up when appropriate. That's kinda like holding your postman responsible for Dubya's decision to go to war, but whatever. I ain't going postal about it.

[rkmsuf]

To this entire thread, I say:

"Lighten up, Francis."

Mods, please change KWhit's name to Francis.

Thank you.

[Ksyrup]

Ironically enough, when someone asked me about a month ago to do a name change for them, I was unable to. Ben had to do it.

[MJ4H]

Then so be it. I haven't "willingly participated" in anything, other than giving my thoughts on issues Ben decides to ask us about and doing thread/post clean-up when appropriate. That's kinda like holding your postman responsible for Dubya's decision to go to war, but whatever. I ain't going postal about it.

Yeah I'm not saying this particular incident is anything to get worked up over, but if this kind of crap continued I sure wouldn't want to be associated with it.

[MJ4H]

MJ4H - wtf happened to your name?? was that by your request??

As was mentioned in the first few posts of this thread, yes.

[DaddyTorgo]

Then so be it. I haven't "willingly participated" in anything, other than giving my thoughts on issues Ben decides to ask us about and doing thread/post clean-up when appropriate. That's kinda like holding your postman responsible for Dubya's decision to go to war, but whatever. I ain't going postal about it.

be nice to ksyrup - he's like a press secretary here - no need to crucify him - especially if he has nice gams

[DaddyTorgo]

As was mentioned in the first few posts of this thread, yes.

oh. i must have missed that. i'm not a fan though :p

[KWhit]

Wouldn't the same be said about anyone that still hangs out here? These types of moves aren't terribly new or surprising. Apparently the aren't egregious enough to get people to leave, so what, people just like to whine?


Ding, ding!

[KWhit]

MJ4H - wtf happened to your name?? was that by your request??

As was mentioned in the first few posts of this thread, yes.


He's like KFC now.

[MJ4H]

oh. i must have missed that. i'm not a fan though :p

I've wanted to do it for a long time. The drug bust incident was enough to push me over the line.

[MikeVic]

Maybe the solution is for everyone to get a randomly-generated username?

[MikeVic]

I've wanted to do it for a long time. The drug bust incident was enough to push me over the line.

Thanks, now you make me look bad for keeping my name.

[sachmo71]

Maybe the solution is for everyone to get a randomly-generated username?

I think that was tried, but everyone liked Buccaneer better.

[cartman]

It's been over 2 pages since HA/Anthony last posted. He got exactly what he wanted out of this thread.

He's played this like a Stradivarius.

[rkmsuf]

Maybe the solution is for everyone to get a randomly-generated username?

Your new Delta name is.....Thunderlips.

[MJ4H]

Thanks, now you make me look bad for keeping my name.

That wasn't me. :D

[Mustang]

He's played this like an Antonio.


Fixed it

[cuervo72]

It's been over 2 pages since HA/Anthony last posted. He got exactly what he wanted out of this thread.

He's played this like a Stradivarius.

Eh, I think someone else got what he wanted out of this thread.


FOFC = trainwreck. I was foolish for thinking it could be something besides that at this point. Probably just time to enjoy it for what it is.

[cartman]

This thread is an interesting insight into people's way of thinking. From a purely technical perspective:

1) There is not a way your screen login name can change, and you aren't automatically logged out of the system if you try to post. You can still obviously read posts, but until you login with the new name you are not able to post.

2) To be able to login, you need to know the screen name. Apparently, HA found out his new screen name in a PM that was sent. But that doesn't add up, because he would have to had logged in to be able to read that PM.

3) Some people have issues with Ben/SkyDog's moderation style at times. So people have assumed that HA is being 100% above board (from everyone's exposure to him over the years, when has this ever been the case?) in his insistence that his name was changed without him knowing, when technically the way he described it happening is bordering on impossible. But the vocal ones regarding Ben/SkyDog want to use this as an example of how bad he is, when it is entirely possible that Anthony/HA just wanted to stir the pot and made this story up to do so.

[DaddyTorgo]

but it's such an enjoyable trainwreck! and you know you love carousing with the other passengers as we hurtle towards the cliff, and laughing at the panicked folk.

[rkmsuf]

Wouldn't posting a fake PM from Ben E Lou result in at least pine cones in the third input?

[PineTar]

http://usera.imagecave.com/ptptpt/yawn.PNG

[MJ4H]

I do not believe I have had to log back in since having my name changed.

[Fidatelo]

This thread is an interesting insight into people's way of thinking. From a purely technical perspective:

1) There is not a way your screen login name can change, and you aren't automatically logged out of the system if you try to post. You can still obviously read posts, but until you login with the new name you are not able to post.

2) To be able to login, you need to know the screen name. Apparently, HA found out his new screen name in a PM that was sent. But that doesn't add up, because he would have to had logged in to be able to read that PM.

3) Some people have issues with Ben/SkyDog's moderation style at times. So people have assumed that HA is being 100% above board (from everyone's exposure to him over the years, when has this ever been the case?) in his insistence that his name was changed without him knowing, when technically the way he described it happening is bordering on impossible. But the vocal ones regarding Ben/SkyDog want to use this as an example of how bad he is, when it is entirely possible that Anthony/HA just wanted to stir the pot and made this story up to do so.

I'm no bulletin board expert, so I'm interested to know if these statements are facts based on your actual VBulletin administration knowledge, or just your assumptions. Cookies, sessions, and other security features of any computer system vary greatly and are often quirky, so when you say "bordering on the impossible" I am skeptical.

That said, if HA is putting us on then he got me, and I apologize for calling SkyDork a bully... although he has done similar things in the past (edit button) so it's easy to believe that he might do this as well.

I think bottom line is that if SkyDork wasn't happy with how HA has been acting, then he should have banned him rather than toying with him. Or, if HA has made all this up, then he should be banned. All roads kind of lead to an HA banning, really.

[Dutch]

bump

[MJ4H]

excellent bump

[rkmsuf]

I blame Ksyrup for all of this.

[MikeVic]

We need an Antmeister parody out of this.

[cuervo72]

Ok, lets make this simple.

1. HA went off on Schmidty last week (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=1771946#post1771946) - in response to a post that was months old - going a bit too far. This led to him being boxed for a week.

2. A few folks off in our Land of Make Believe opine that this is standard HA, he'll just be gone for a week and come back continuing where he left off. He's done it before, he'll do it again.

3. It was explained that "HA isn't really a bad guy - he just likes to put on this character". Which many of us (though certainly not all of us) are tired of. So, I offer a different approach to the boxing. Why not change his screen name to Anthony, and see if he starts acting like an actual person, rather than this caricature?

4. Folks agree that a name change is a spiffy idea. SkyDog agrees too, but for a slightly different reason. He gets a kick out of HA. Thinks he's a good diversion, and mostly harmless. A name change should get a nice little rise out of him (and in all likelihood he'd go ahead and change the name *back*).

5. Anthony returns, a little perplexed. But overall, doesn't blow up. FOFC, in its usual custom, DOES get all bent out of shape (some are angry, most are just confused, some just are), saving the day and providing the train wreck that was hoped for.

[DanGarion]

Question, is Lorena getting suspended for her posting of a NSFW youtube video?

Also how come the big dog himself hasn't made a statement yet? When is the news conference scheduled for?

[JPhillips]

The only way I'll respect someone who's upset is if they never post again. Anything else is hypocritically supporting a corrupt system.

[cartman]

I'm no bulletin board expert, so I'm interested to know if these statements are facts based on your actual VBulletin administration knowledge, or just your assumptions. Cookies, sessions, and other security features of any computer system vary greatly and are often quirky, so when you say "bordering on the impossible" I am skeptical.


It is based both on various BB administration (vbulletin, phpbb, invision, etc.) and general computer admin experience. Whenever a name changes, the checksums, CRCs, tokens, or whatever security mechanism used changes. When you try to use the old name, the checks just do not match up. There are wide variations on how differing systems handle security, but the basic mechanisms are the same across all systems.

That being said, there are always bugs and glitches in systems, and behavior might deviate from what was expected. That is why I said "bordering on the impossible" and not just a flat out "impossible". But much closer to a certainty than Anthony/HA's version of events.

[Lathum]

I think bottom line is that if SkyDork wasn't happy with how HA has been acting, then he should have banned him rather than toying with him. Or, if HA has made all this up, then he should be banned. All roads kind of lead to an HA banning, really.

Why?

HA antics have been going on forever, HA "toys" with people all the time, often in an asshatish way.

But if Ben does it to him that means Ben is being a douchebag? What is so wrong with Ben having a little fun with HA, it's not like HA hasn't earned it. I think it's funny he is getting a taste of his own medicine.

And don't use the abuse of power excuse because we all know Ben has no problem abusing his power and making it clear it isn't a democracy.

[MJ4H]

If I were part of the moderation team I would've voiced my strong disagreement with the decision to change a user's name without their consent and recommended not treating him differently from other users. He should be warned/boxed/banned just like everyone else would be.

I'm not worked up over this and it doesn't seem like many people really are. It's just something to talk about. I think all the posts saying OMG DRAMA are the ones that are a little off. But hey what do I know.

[jeheinz72]

Yep, I knew it was a dumb idea to read this thread.

[Tekneek]

It might be different because Ben is doing something that HA cannot do? Ben can do what he wants to do. We have no guarantees here, but I can see why somebody could be a little bit upset about it.