What happens tomorrow (LHC)?

[MJ4H]

When the Large Hadron Collider is turned on, what is going to happen?


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[Neon_Chaos]

They're really going to turn it on?

I hope they don't create a black hole or something. :)

[JPhillips]

Somebody had to vote for end of the world.

[BrianD]

Anybody ever play the game Out of This World? That is my guess.

[MikeVic]

I am so confused.

[DaddyTorgo]

I am so confused.

tomorrow in europe they turn on the LHC which is a massive particle accelerator (what's it like 17 miles in diameter?). Basically the doomsdayers are worried it'll create mini black holes that will eventually devour the earth, or antimatter that'll blow the earth up, or any matter of other spectacular stuff.

[Passacaglia]

Definitely -- then king would really feel crappy for holding up the FOFC Mole.

[Alan T]

Can they do this tonight before the new 90210 comes on, so my wife doesn't force me to watch it with her?

[MikeVic]

tomorrow in europe they turn on the LHC which is a massive particle accelerator (what's it like 17 miles in diameter?). Basically the doomsdayers are worried it'll create mini black holes that will eventually devour the earth, or antimatter that'll blow the earth up, or any matter of other spectacular stuff.

Can this result is what happened in Southland Tales? What's this particle accelerator supposed to do?

[MikeVic]

Can they do this tonight before the new 90210 comes on, so my wife doesn't force me to watch it with her?

You should want to watch it!

[sachmo71]

Can they do this tonight before the new 90210 comes on, so my wife doesn't force me to watch it with her?

Maybe it will help you grow a pair.


sorry

[Suburban Rhythm]

It would be pretty weird if all of a sudden the world ended.

Agree there. Thankfully, with the forum changes, nobody will lose any posts.

[JediKooter]

As long as the flux capacitor is functioning properly, there should be no problems.

[Neon_Chaos]

Can this result is what happened in Southland Tales? What's this particle accelerator supposed to do?

On Sept. 10, 2008, they're going to attempt to have a particle beam circumnavigate the entire LHC as a test.

By October, 2008, they will have two particle beams collide in the LHC, which they assume will unlock a whole lot of mysteries about the origins of the universe.

More on hxxp://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html

edit:

this is not the very first test of this kind.

there is the RHIC, located in Upton, New York, which is about 3 km long, and they have been colliding particles there since 2000.

hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Heavy_Ion_Collider

[DaddyTorgo]

bah - 3 miles? that's child's play!

[MJ4H]

miles?

sort of

[DaddyTorgo]

oh fine. 3km?? that's child's play!

[JPhillips]

On Sept. 10, 2008, they're going to attempt to have a particle beam circumnavigate the entire LHC as a test.

By October, 2008, they will have two particle beams collide in the LHC, which they assume will unlock a whole lot of mysteries about the origins of the universe.

More on hxxp://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html

edit:

this is not the very first test of this kind.

there is the RHIC, located in Upton, New York, which is about 3 km long, and they have been colliding particles there since 2000.

hxxp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Heavy_Ion_Collider

If you aren't going to monger fear you can go to another thread. The whole Earth is going to be destroyed.

[primelord]

The obvious problem here is that they are not sure what is going to happen with some of these experiments. Some people believe that it will not create black holes, some people believe it will but that they will quickly evaporate, some believe it could be very bad for us.

I am all for advancing scientific research, but it does seem like a fairly big gamble to take when you aren't sure what you are even expecting to happen.

[MikeVic]

Someone please post results in this thread if the world doesn't end. Sounds awesome.

[Alan T]

Someone please post results in this thread if the world doesn't end. Sounds awesome.


I'll be responsible for posting the results if the world does end :)

[JediKooter]

I heard they are accelerating these particles to 99.99% the speed of light, why can't they get that last .01%?

[Chubby]

because supposedly nothing can travel the speed of light since it would reach infinite mass (despite the particles in light having a miniscule mass in of themselves). Eventually I susppect we will reach and surpass the speed of light but that day hasn't arrived.

[QuikSand]

because supposedly nothing can travel the speed of light since it would reach infinite mass (despite the particles in light having a miniscule mass in of themselves). Eventually I susppect we will reach and surpass the speed of light but that day hasn't arrived.

You started out so well, too.

[Chubby]

You started out so well, too.


Ha. :)

Well I don't think Eintstein's equation is absolute. There's nothing in science to back that up but we once thought the world was flat too :) Chalk it up to one of life's mysteries that I don't think we've solved yet.

I think eventually there will be a way to surpass the speed of light that still keeps Einstein intact

[DaddyTorgo]

if we surpass the speed of light i'd get a chubby

[Chubby]

or is the the particles in light having mass (minute) that you had issue with? :)

I love this subject and I haven't studied up on it in a long time but I loved this discussion in hs/college

[MikeVic]

If we pass the speed of light, won't we be time traveling?

[Chubby]

If we pass the speed of light, won't we be time traveling?


It's still going to take time to to move a distance regardless of whether that can be discerned by the human eye. It may appear that you moved there instantly.

[gstelmack]

By October, 2008, they will have two particle beams collide in the LHC, which they assume will unlock a whole lot of mysteries about the origins of the universe.

Wait, they're going to CROSS THE STREAMS? Run for the hills!

[cartman]

Some scientists thought that the first atom bomb test would start a chain reaction in the atmosphere and burn the Earth.

[Subby]

It's hot.

It's hot.

It's hot in here.

THERE MUST BE AN A-BOMB IN THE ATMOSPHERE!

[JediKooter]

because supposedly nothing can travel the speed of light since it would reach infinite mass (despite the particles in light having a miniscule mass in of themselves). Eventually I susppect we will reach and surpass the speed of light but that day hasn't arrived.

Thank you. I thought it was something along those lines, just couldn't remember.

[molson]

I hope it's something between the end of the world and nothing. I'm kind of bored with earth as it is. Maybe it'll fix Brady's ACL.

I read about some Russian scientists who believe that time travelers from the future will visit us immediately after they turn this on. Or some shit.

[rjolley]

This is like a larger version of Fermilab in Illinois, right? Went there in elementary school...pretty kool stuff.

And no option for Vulcans/Borg/Dr Who/some other alien race will visit us? For shame.

[cthomer5000]

I am all for advancing scientific research, but it does seem like a fairly big gamble to take when you aren't sure what you are even expecting to happen.

And I would say stop being such a pussy and push the button.

In all seriousness, my hope is that we open a portal to somewhere else and aliens pour out and an intergalactic war begins.

I'll be happy with time travelers too, but not as happy.

[MJ4H]

amen brother

[BishopMVP]

Some scientists thought that the first atom bomb test would start a chain reaction in the atmosphere and burn the Earth.It might've even been Oppenheimer who was taking bets on whether it would end the world while they waited for the Trinity test.because supposedly nothing can travel the speed of light since it would reach infinite mass (despite the particles in light having a miniscule mass in of themselves). Eventually I suspect we will reach and surpass the speed of light but that day hasn't arrived.It also has to do with the amount of energy (infinite) required to accelerate an object to the speed of light.

There are some indications of particles (tachyons) that travel faster than the speed of light, but no indication that the barrier can be crossed.

[PineTar]

This is like a larger version of Fermilab in Illinois

From Wikipedia... Fermilab's Tevatron is a landmark particle accelerator; at 6.28 kilometers (4 miles) in circumference, it is the world's second largest energy particle accelerator (LHC is 27 kilometres in circumference).

[Groundhog]

Two words: Half Life.

[astrosfan64]

because supposedly nothing can travel the speed of light since it would reach infinite mass (despite the particles in light having a miniscule mass in of themselves). Eventually I susppect we will reach and surpass the speed of light but that day hasn't arrived.

We will definately surpass the speed of light one day.

[JPhillips]

We will definately surpass the speed of light one day.

WRONG! We'll all be dead tomorrow.

[JediKooter]

What was that noise...

[rjolley]

From Wikipedia... Fermilab's Tevatron is a landmark particle accelerator; at 6.28 kilometers (4 miles) in circumference, it is the world's second largest energy particle accelerator (LHC is 27 kilometres in circumference).

Thanks, should've looked there first, but I was feeling lazy.

Two words: Half Life.

Indeed.

[SFL Cat]

Global Warming becomes a secondary problem.

[SFL Cat]

There are some indications of particles (tachyons) that travel faster than the speed of light, but no indication that the barrier can be crossed.

Some people dispute the existance of tachyons.

[kingnebwsu]

Definitely -- then king would really feel crappy for holding up the FOFC Mole.

Ouch baby. Very ouch.

[BishopMVP]

Some people dispute the existance of tachyons.Oh yes, many people do, but there are also many respected scientists who think they exist theoretically. Reaching and/or crossing the speed of light is a theory only held by wingnuts.

[EagleFan]

Two words: Half Life.

We're screwed as the scientists which I saw don't look they can wield a crowbar with any authority.

[SFL Cat]

God appears from heaven and says, "Quit making all that noise." :)

[BishopMVP]

5 Things You Need to Know About the Large Hadron Collider Now -
Will Super Collider Cause Black Hole? - FAQ: Large Hadron Collider - Popular Mechanics (http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/extreme_machines/4281928.html)

A quick overview.

[Neon_Chaos]

It's been activated.

We're all still here.

Hopefully we'll all still be here when the first particles are collided in the coming month. :)

[Chubby]

Was the real concern really it being activated or when they decide to collide to particle beams? I'd assume it was the latter...

[Neon_Chaos]

Was the real concern really it being activated or when they decide to collide to particle beams? I'd assume it was the latter...

The actual colliding of particles will be during October, I believe.

But at least they were able to flip the switch and have a particle beam circumnavigate the entire LHC today.

Joy!

[sterlingice]

Was the real concern really it being activated or when they decide to collide to particle beams? I'd assume it was the latter...


I never quite understood why the media was latching onto today as "end of the world" day. Today was just shooting the particle beam in one direction- nothing exciting even happened. Now, when they start colliding stuff- that's when the fun begins with aliens, black holes, and time travelers.

SI

[Bearcat729]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/PCM72/100122tn590.jpg

From today's Enquirer

[SFL Cat]

Classic :)

[Passacaglia]

Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the earth yet? (http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com)

[BrianD]

Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the earth yet? (http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com)

That was probably a lot more funny to me than it should have been. :D

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1219304/Scientist-Big-Bang-Hadron-Collider-arrested-suspicion-terror-links.html

Wonder what this is all about. Scientist at LHC arrested for terror links.