Boston College tells HC: "Interview with the Jets and you are fired"

[DeToxRox]

Is this even possible?

Boston College coach Jeff Jagodzinski has been told he will be fired if he interviews for the head coaching vacancy with the New York Jets, which is scheduled for Monday, according to sources.

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Jeff Jagodzinski has been head coach at Boston College the past two seasons.

Despite the threat from athletic director Gene DeFilippo, Jagodzinski plans to do the interview with the Jets, the sources said. Those sources said that in the event Jagodzinski is fired, BC would promote offensive coordinator Steve Logan to head coach.

According to the sources, DeFilippo first told Jagodzinski on Saturday that he would fired if he interviewed and then reinforced the school's position Sunday. Jagodzinski declined to comment when reached by ESPN.

BC spokesman Chris Cameron told ESPN's Joe Schad the school would have no comment. But another BC source said Jagodzinski informed his coaching staff of the development this weekend after at least two discussions with DeFilippo.

The Jets did not have a reaction or confirm they are interested in Jagodzinski, but ESPN and other news outlets have reported his candidacy.

Jagodzinski, 45, has been head coach at Boston College the past two seasons, with the team finishing first in the ACC's Atlantic Division each year. In 2007 the Eagles went 11-3, including a victory over Michigan State in the Champs Sports Bowl. This past season, BC finished 9-5 after losing to Vanderbilt in the Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl.

Prior to coming to BC, Jagodzinski had worked as an NFL assistant since 1999. He was tight ends coach for the Packers from 1999-2002, then served in the same role for the Falcons in 2003 and '04 before moving up to be Atlanta's offensive line coach in '05. He then went back to Green Bay as offensive coordinator for the 2006 season before BC came calling.

Before coming to the NFL, Jagodzinski served on college staffs since 1989 with East Carolina, LSU, Northern Illinois, and Wisconsin-Whitewater (his alma mater).

[Neuqua]

Yeah I read that and was curious what the deal with it was..

[gstelmack]

Probably legal on some conflict-of-interest thing or somesuch. And with the way coaches have been bolting lately, I could see schools trying to figure out how to get tough on it.

[Lathum]

Good for him for still interviewing. Even if he doesn't get the job teams will be lining up to hire him.

[Swaggs]

Might be kind of tough to find someone to replace him with that precedent in place.

[Comey]

BC put themselves in a no-win situation with that one. Either they're bluffing, and they fire the coach that put them back on the map (at least, as much on the map as they've been in the last 15 years).

[Comey]

Might be kind of tough to find someone to replace him with that precedent in place.

BC's AD is on record as saying Steve Logan, the OC, would be the new head coach.

If I'm Logan...am I even taking this position? I'd probably boycott the firing. But, that's just me.

[Eaglesfan27]

Seems like BC is really shooting themselves in the foot with this move. I can't imagine any coach with any real potential wanting to go there after this happens.

[BYU 14]

I agree, coaching is a nomadic profession and if he has a goal to coach in the NFL they should support him. I would not want to be a new coach coming in with BC doing that to the old coach because he dared to try and better himself.

This can backfire on BC big, no matter which way they go now.

[CU Tiger]

BC put themselves in a no-win situation with that one. Either they're bluffing, and they fire the coach that put them back on the map (at least, as much on the map as they've been in the last 15 years).

2 points: 1) The bolded part OR.... 2) Id say O'Brien put them on the map and Jags has just kept them there.....

[CU Tiger]

"....and as it relates to the Coach Jag story, Steve Logan was set to accept the OC position at Clemson but has asked for some time with the BC head coaching situation...."

[DaddyTorgo]

is it possible? yes...absolutely. he's an at-will employee. he can be terminated at any time.

frankly, it's my alma mater so i'm biased, but i think it's a great stance to take. The coach is valuable, and coaching stability is a great thing. Especially if you have recruits coming to your school because of your coach, them knowing that he will continue to be there can only be a good thing.

Might it be hard to lure coaches in the future? I suppose. But BC does have a great DC who has been there for years - maybe they've made the decision to elevate him if they fire Jags.

Whatever...I'm all for it.

[Shkspr]

"....and as it relates to the Coach Jag story, Steve Logan was set to accept the OC position at Clemson but has asked for some time with the BC head coaching situation...."

I certainly hope that BC is planning to fire Logan over interviewing with Clemson.

[DaddyTorgo]

let the hating begin - frankly BC has never been all about it's football team, so i'm happy to see them taking a principled stand. This isn't Alabama or Auburn where like the only thing the school has going is the football team. If BC's football team falls off the map (relatively speaking) it will still be one of the top universities in the country...so who cares

[Swaggs]

DT, how did you feel about Coach Jags before today?

I understand your loyalty, but I feel like, unless you guys really did not think he was doing very well, B.C. put themselves in a lose-lose situation. He either leaves now and makes the University look bad or he stays one more season, under duress and leaves at the first opportunity next season (killing two seasons of recruiting and leaving the job a toxic one).

B.C. would have been able to boast that their job is a stepping stone to the NFL (with Coughlin and Jags both in the NFL) or keep a promising, upcoming young coach without the ultimatum.

[DeToxRox]

The bigger problem is like has been said - If they do this to Jags, then what kind of coach do they want to attract? Sorry DT, but BC is one of those jobs you have to stumble on to find that guy who makes it his program, but I look at it like a stepping stone job.

Jags has no shot at the Jets job but why fuss he's interviewing?

[Toddzilla]

This isn't Alabama or Auburn where like the only thing the school has going is the football team.oooohh, BURN!

[SackAttack]

If you're going to raise a ruckus like this, fire him anyway and have done with it.

As far as quality coaches go, you'll never attract anything but a mercenary again if you make the threat, and if you actually follow through on it, you might not even get that.

Just fire him, say "it didn't work out," and move on.

[Galaxy]

is it possible? yes...absolutely. he's an at-will employee. he can be terminated at any time.



A few questions.

He has a five-year contract (going into his third).

1) Does the school have to pay/buyout the remainder of his contract if he is fired?

2) Does he have any clauses that allow him to leave?

3) If he has no clause that allows him to leave, why doesn't the school enforce the contract that they have with him?

[SirFozzie]

Whafuck, BC?

Apparently, they don't want to be looked at as the gateway for coaches to get back into the NFL. *shrugs*

[DaddyTorgo]

that's fine. i don't want that either. and i think DeFilippo and the university have made that decision. look at the other sports - hockey and basketball. the coaches have been there FOREVER. I think they want somebody like that for football, they're not willing to be a part of the coaching-carousel that other schools go through. if that means the football team isn't top-25 every year...so be it.

[Tigercat]

BC doesn't compete with the the Jets. You don't threaten to fire good employees for interviewing for bigger and better jobs. If that's a stance, its a dickhead stance.

Now, if he was interviewing every year, that would be something totally different.

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe there was a gentleman's agreement that he would stay at least 3-4 years and he has broached that? if it's something like that though then they should have made that clear b/c i do admit they're the ones looking worse here.

[Atocep]

that's fine. i don't want that either. and i think DeFilippo and the university have made that decision. look at the other sports - hockey and basketball. the coaches have been there FOREVER. I think they want somebody like that for football, they're not willing to be a part of the coaching-carousel that other schools go through. if that means the football team isn't top-25 every year...so be it.

This an opportunity to be a head coach in the NFL. This isn't your typical coaching carousel type of thing. BC is going to have no choice but find a BC-lifer after pulling this because no one with any sort of aspirations is going to want the damn job.

[DaddyTorgo]

This an opportunity to be a head coach in the NFL. This isn't your typical coaching carousel type of thing. BC is going to have no choice but find a BC-lifer after pulling this because no one with any sort of aspirations is going to want the damn job.

good.

this isn't a sports-first/football-crazy university we're talking about here.

[Atocep]

good.

this isn't a sports-first/football-crazy university we're talking about here.

And they jumped to the ACC because.....

[Mustang]

I think they want somebody like that for football, they're not willing to be a part of the coaching-carousel that other schools go through.

They picked the wrong guy then. He generally sticks around 2-3 years in a position before taking the next step.

[ISiddiqui]

Seems really dumb. Say he interviews and the Jets decide to go elsewhere, then they can say their coach is so good he was being interviewed for NFL jobs! Makes them look ridiculous.

[ISiddiqui]

And they jumped to the ACC because.....

The Big East was even more into "Big Time College Football" ;)

[Atocep]

The Big East was even more into "Big Time College Football" ;)

So they should have themselves demoted to the Patriot League within the next 10-15 years.

[DaddyTorgo]

And they jumped to the ACC because.....

i'd argue it certainly wasn't for FOOTBALL. If anything it was for basketball. But of course that jump was motivated by $$.

[Galaxy]

i'd argue it certainly wasn't for FOOTBALL. If anything it was for basketball. But of course that jump was motivated by $$.

I thought football was the reason they jumped for the ACC.

[Swaggs]

i'd argue it certainly wasn't for FOOTBALL. If anything it was for basketball. But of course that jump was motivated by $$.

Of course it was for football. No other NCAA generates anywhere near the amount of money that football does and BC/VT/Miami have increased their football revenues immensely since leaving the Big East.

[ISiddiqui]

Saying it was for basketball $$ is insane as I'm sure the Big East generates similar amounts of cash in basketball these days as the ACC does.

[DaddyTorgo]

for basketball competition.

then again i wasn't privy to the discussions for the reason for the move - you're probably right it was for football too.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

This an opportunity to be a head coach in the NFL. This isn't your typical coaching carousel type of thing. BC is going to have no choice but find a BC-lifer after pulling this because no one with any sort of aspirations is going to want the damn job.

I thought the whole reason for his interest in BC was that he graduated from there/played for them. Am I wrong?

Still, it's a dick move by the AD. Looks like a pissing match.

[Mustang]

I thought the whole reason for his interest in BC was that he graduated from there/played for them. Am I wrong?


He was the OC there in the late 90's. He is from Wisconsin and played at Whitewater.

[kcchief19]

Eh, I really don't have a problem. If I have a valuable employee who is looking for a better gig I might want to get rid of them too, especially if his job searching can kill recruiting. Plus, if he's interviewing for another job this obviously isn't the job he wants -- don't you want a guy in there that wants the job right now?

As for hiring the next guy, sounds like Logan will absolutely take it if he's offered. And for the money Division I coaches make, there are thousands of coaches who would take the job.

You also can't rule out the possibility that there is something else at play. Maybe there is already a situation and BC wants a reason to make a change and this gives them a better excuse.

[DaddyTorgo]

Eh, I really don't have a problem. If I have a valuable employee who is looking for a better gig I might want to get rid of them too, especially if his job searching can kill recruiting. Plus, if he's interviewing for another job this obviously isn't the job he wants -- don't you want a guy in there that wants the job right now?

As for hiring the next guy, sounds like Logan will absolutely take it if he's offered. And for the money Division I coaches make, there are thousands of coaches who would take the job.

You also can't rule out the possibility that there is something else at play. Maybe there is already a situation and BC wants a reason to make a change and this gives them a better excuse.

+1

your first paragraph sums up what I wanted to say pretty succinctly. If he wants to be somewhere else he's just going to kill our recruiting classes, so let him go. And if he doesn't want to be here he can go - we'll just show him the door proactively so that future recruits can see that we're not going to mess around and our coaches are going to stay for the length of their contract.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

He was the OC there in the late 90's. He is from Wisconsin and played at Whitewater.

OK. Buh-bye, BC!

[Logan]

for basketball competition.

No, we're looking for the reason for why they LEFT the Big East, not joined it in the first place.

[Galaxy]

No, we're looking for the reason for why they LEFT the Big East, not joined it in the first place.

I am confused. I would say that the Big East and ACC are equal pretty much when it comes to hoops.

[miami_fan]

Eh, I really don't have a problem. If I have a valuable employee who is looking for a better gig I might want to get rid of them too, especially if his job searching can kill recruiting. Plus, if he's interviewing for another job this obviously isn't the job he wants -- don't you want a guy in there that wants the job right now?

As for hiring the next guy, sounds like Logan will absolutely take it if he's offered. And for the money Division I coaches make, there are thousands of coaches who would take the job.

You also can't rule out the possibility that there is something else at play. Maybe there is already a situation and BC wants a reason to make a change and this gives them a better excuse.

I don't have a big problem with it either. I was not privy to the discussions but you would think they had to be some conversations about Jags' commitment to the university. Two seasons? That is all he gave the university before he went searching for another job? I can't believe he would have been hired if they thought he would be searching for a new gig in two years. Is he wrong for going after the the job with the Jets? Absolutely not. If his ultimate goal is to be an NFL head coach, he should go for it. Or maybe his goal is to be the head coach at Michigan or Alabama or USC etc. What is clear is he think there are better jobs than the one he currently has. Ultimately, there does seem like there is much more at play here.

[RedKingGold]

A few questions.

He has a five-year contract (going into his third).

1) Does the school have to pay/buyout the remainder of his contract if he is fired?

2) Does he have any clauses that allow him to leave?

3) If he has no clause that allows him to leave, why doesn't the school enforce the contract that they have with him?

Does not matter if there is or is not a contract. Both the employee and employer can leave at-will at any time.

If there is a contract, either the employer or employee would seek to enforce it in a breach of contract suit. Even in that result, the only likely remedy is damages (which NY Jets would likely know about and likely pay). Although specific performance (i.e. forcing the BC coach to continue coaching the team) is a possible remedy, I doubt that it would be issued in this matter.

[Chubby]

I am confused. I would say that the Big East and ACC are equal pretty much when it comes to hoops.

HAHAHAHA

[Logan]

You did a better job of controlling your laughter than I did.

[Alan T]

Are you all laughing because of the statement that BC didn't leave for football reasons, or because it was inferred that the ACC was better than Big East when BC moved, or because you feel Big East is better than ACC is currently?

Based on RPI alone, I think it is tough for anyone to say that the Big East isn't the strongest conference in basketball for this year. The ACC however is still #2, so at least somewhat comparable. For the past 10 year averages, ACC is #1 for conference rank, but Big East still is #3, so it is not like they are having a one year fluke.. they have been one of the strongest basketball conferences for quite some time.

It feels to me at least that as others have mentioned, the move for BC was money driven, and in this case money = football. While there isn't a huge difference between Big East and ACC in basketball, there is a pretty large one when it comes to Football paydays. (Note, I am not saying that there are not good college football schools in the Big East, as there were a few that did great this season, but the pay-outs for that conference in football are far below what the ACC schools get when talking money)

[Logan]

I am laughing because for anyone who doesn't think BC joined the ACC for the football money, I have a bridge for sale. The best part of the whole situation is that BC publicly came out and blasted the ACC for the raiding of VT and Miami and announced their support of the Big East as a continued viable football conference...but when a bit of time passed and the ACC extended the offer, they changed their tune and bolted quick.

Of course I have no issue with chasing the money, but to not admit it is just wrong.

As for the BE vs ACC basketball debate...you only need to look at the schools the ACC brought in during the raid as evidence that the conference had no problem watering down basketball in order to get that football championship game money. Again, not wrong...their choice, but admit it.

[gstelmack]

If you're going to raise a ruckus like this, fire him anyway and have done with it.

They didn't raise a ruckus, whoever leaked it did (and I doubt it was BC itself that leaked it).

[DaddyTorgo]

most likely was someone associated with Jags (his agent?) to try to get him leverage / make the school look bad.

whatever, i'm all for it. guy signed a contract, so enforce the contract. until he's out-of-contract he's an at-will employee and you can fire him for whatever reason you want, including looking for a new job.

[ISiddiqui]

I find it amusing to see the terms "enforce the contract" and "you can fire him for whatever reason you want" in the same sentance ;).

[BrianD]

I don't have a big problem with it either. I was not privy to the discussions but you would think they had to be some conversations about Jags' commitment to the university. Two seasons? That is all he gave the university before he went searching for another job? I can't believe he would have been hired if they thought he would be searching for a new gig in two years. Is he wrong for going after the the job with the Jets? Absolutely not. If his ultimate goal is to be an NFL head coach, he should go for it. Or maybe his goal is to be the head coach at Michigan or Alabama or USC etc. What is clear is he think there are better jobs than the one he currently has. Ultimately, there does seem like there is much more at play here.

Isn't there a difference between "searching for another job" and having a shot at an NFL job? It isn't like he is out there floating his resume to see what else he can get. This looks like a directed evaluation of one particular job at a higher level. To me, going after one specific good opportunity is much less egregious than an open search for another job.

[RedKingGold]

I find it amusing to see the terms "enforce the contract" and "you can fire him for whatever reason you want" in the same sentance ;).

How so?

[ISiddiqui]

Wouldn't "enforce the contract" mean keeping him there until the contract ends?

Or does enforce the contract only attach to one side?

[DaddyTorgo]

Yes howso? A contract isn't a two way thing - his employer is paying him. They have the right to terminate that employment at any time. Now I suppose they don't have the right to actually tell him he's not allowed to interview somewhere else but they can certainly say "if you go on that interview you might as well clear your desk out."

enforcing it applies to both sides - they have the right to fire him for any reason, but he has the right to continue getting paid. if they were to stop paying him say because the team cocked up and didn't win the ACC title and make a BCS game, then he could/should demand that the contract be enforced.

think about it this way - isn't it within their rights as an employer to say "oh - you have a meeting to attend at the exact same time as your interview happens to be scheduled. if you miss the meeting you're fired." ? Absolutely is.

[ISiddiqui]

A contract isn't a two way thing

Uh.. yes it is.

Which is why they'll have to pay him a bailout if they get rid of him. Because BC would be in breach of contract (which is why Charlie Weis isn't fired from ND, because to 'buyout' the contract is too much)

[Galaxy]

Uh.. yes it is.

Which is why they'll have to pay him a bailout if they get rid of him. Because BC would be in breach of contract (which is why Charlie Weis isn't fired from ND, because to 'buyout' the contract is too much)

That's what I wanted to find out. BC can fire him at any time, sure. However, wouldn't they have to pay him the rest of his contract?

[DaddyTorgo]

lol okay - in that sense yes it is. i misspoke/wasn't clear in the point i was trying to make.

[DaddyTorgo]

That's what I wanted to find out. BC can fire him at any time, sure. However, wouldn't they have to pay him the rest of his contract?

Or some agreed-upon percentage thereof...sure.

[SirFozzie]

Apparently, there was a clause in Jags's contract that stated he would not interview for any other jobs (college or NFL) for three years. This is why he got the five year contract when the board was hesitant to give it to him.

Now I feel a lot more comfortable with BC's action.

Edit: And it looks like he'll be gone shortly, as he apparently didn't tell BC that he was contacted by the Jets so they looked ridiculous when they said he hadn't talked to the Jets.

[RedKingGold]

Wouldn't "enforce the contract" mean keeping him there until the contract ends?

Or does enforce the contract only attach to one side?

Not necessarily. BC can "enforce" the contract by requiring the head coach to fulfill a buyback option or pay some other penalty.

There is the possibility that the employment contract contains a covenant not to compete, but those clauses are not enforceable unless reasonable in time and scope.

[RedKingGold]

Uh.. yes it is.

Which is why they'll have to pay him a bailout if they get rid of him. Because BC would be in breach of contract (which is why Charlie Weis isn't fired from ND, because to 'buyout' the contract is too much)

lol

EDIT: Also, buyout and breach of contract is not the same thing.

[SirFozzie]

If the contract had a "Do not do this" and he did "This", I see it as perfectly enforceable as a firing with cause; as it would give coaches too much power otherwise.

[ISiddiqui]

A buyout is basically an alternative liquidated damages. It's basically a "we'll pay you this for breaching our part of the deal".

[RedKingGold]

A buyout is basically an alternative liquidated damages. It's basically a "we'll pay you this for breaching our part of the deal".

Still, it's not breach of contract. If anything, enforcing a buyout is enforcing the contract.

[ISiddiqui]

Still, it's not breach of contract. If anything, enforcing a buyout is enforcing the contract.

Yes, but in practical terms it ends up being the same. You are paying a prior agreed upon amount to end the deal before its end. (It's part of the efficient breach theory)

In which case, telling the coach to "enforce the contract" is silly, because they both basically have an out.

[DaddyTorgo]

aaah - so he's a non contract following douchebag?

makes me feel good about my university - glad the truth came out

[Logan]

I'd like to go back to the original point many brought up...it's bad business to attempt to stifle potential coaches from escalating to the NFL.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'd like to go back to the original point many brought up...it's bad business to attempt to stifle potential coaches from escalating to the NFL.

not if he had essentially a 3-year lock-in.

besides - i saw an astute point on a boston.com article about this, and it was essentially: coaches at "big name" football schools like USC, Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Ohio State, etc. can job-hop because those PROGRAMS are established. So their pipeline of recruits doesn't change all that much based on who the coach is (note that i said "all that much"). At a school like BC where you are below that tier you are trying to build a legendary program, the lure of playing for a particular coach/in a particular style offense may be of particular attraction to a recruit.

[gstelmack]

I'd like to go back to the original point many brought up...it's bad business to attempt to stifle potential coaches from escalating to the NFL.

And it's bad business to have a revolving door coaching position in a recruiting-based sport.

[RedKingGold]

Yes,...

Good. Just stop there. Everything else you said afterwards is just trying to bolster an earlier said mistake.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'd personally love to see more schools doing this and thus more coaches staying put for longer periods of time.

[Young Drachma]

i'd personally love to see more schools doing this and thus more coaches staying put for longer periods of time.

People won't agree to these contracts, by and large. The ones who don't, aren't going anywhere anyway.

[DaddyTorgo]

but if every school started offering them as a standard more or less, the coaches would have to. there aren't enough jobs elsewhere for them.

*cough* collusion!

[Young Drachma]

but if every school started offering them as a standard more or less, the coaches would have to. there aren't enough jobs elsewhere for them.

*cough* collusion!

There are only 32 NFL teams and no more than a quarter would ever consider hiring a college coach at any time.

As a result, these clauses would just be a great for coaches to leave where they are to head somewhere else when they're tired of that school and want to drum up press for themselves, taking a token interview as a springboard to something bigger.

[DaddyTorgo]

hmm - decent point

[Samdari]

i'd personally love to see more schools doing this and thus more coaches staying put for longer periods of time.

I agree, but I think there is a big difference between leaving for other college jobs, and leaving to be an NFL head coach.

Its hard to look good trying to prevent someone from pursuing a "higher level" job. I absolutely think that Universities should crack down and keep college coaches from leaving for other college jobs. But, keeping them from taking NFL HC jobs? That's just not realistic.

I actually believe that colleges don't hold coaches strictly to their contracts is because they want the flexibility to fire someone who is not winning. It would be horrible pr for BC to take a hardline on Jagodzinski, and then try to fire his replacement with a pennies on the dollar buyout three years from now. I think the contracts are soft (or flexible, or whatever word you want to use) because all parties want them that way.

[Logan]

And it's bad business to have a revolving door coaching position in a recruiting-based sport.

It's also bad business to have a guy who can't recruit in the coaching position in a recruiting-based sport. Jags is getting absolutely smoked this year, maybe a part of why he wants out.

[DaddyTorgo]

good point samdari - good point

[DaddyTorgo]

It's also bad business to have a guy who can't recruit in the coaching position in a recruiting-based sport. Jags is getting absolutely smoked this year, maybe a part of why he wants out.

may also be part of why BC wants him out

I will check with my sources once this all plays out.

Yes, I have sources at BC - both the AD - who is a member of my parent's parish and friendly with them, as well as my VP family-friend.

[ISiddiqui]

Good. Just stop there. Everything else you said afterwards is just trying to bolster an earlier said mistake.

Not really ;). It part and parcel of the efficient breach theory of contracts law. A buyout simply allows for a more efficient breach of contract by avoiding litigation to get liquidated damages. Practically its the same and I consider both to be breaking contract.

[DeToxRox]

Wow, Jags might be a huge ass.

Mike Ferrell of Rivals is saying Jags is basically trying to get fired because he hates recruiting and wants out of BC without quitting.

Two kids this year, Brennan Williams and Arthur Lynch, were BC locks until they met with Jags and basically he showed them no motivation to be at BC himself, let alone have them there.

Unreal.

[jeff061]

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me unless he's guaranteed a spot in the pros. In which case he is no longer trying to get fired, he's moving up in his career.

Unless of course he'd rather be unemployed with uncertainty in his future.

[DaddyTorgo]

Wow, Jags might be a huge ass.

Mike Ferrell of Rivals is saying Jags is basically trying to get fired because he hates recruiting and wants out of BC without quitting.

Two kids this year, Brennan Williams and Arthur Lynch, were BC locks until they met with Jags and basically he showed them no motivation to be at BC himself, let alone have them there.

Unreal.

wow - thanks DeTox. Hadn't heard that level of detail. What a colossal ass if this is true.

[ISiddiqui]

Btw,

BC ready to fire Jagodzinski - The Boston Globe College Sports Blog - Boston.com (http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/extras/colleges_blog/2009/01/bc_ready_to_fir.html)

Although there had been various reports stating that a clause in Jagodzinski's contract prohibited any contact with NFL teams for his first three seasons -- the coach is in the second year of a five-year deal with a total compensation package of more than $1 million per season -- sources at BC said yesterday that no such clause existed, although there was an understanding that Jagodzinski, who was hired two years ago to replace Tom O'Brien, would refrain from seeking other jobs for at least three seasons.

Ie, don't jump to conclusions. Who knows what was the nature of the "understanding", but there was no clause in the contract.

[DaddyTorgo]

sounds from that article like the crux of the issue is that Jags lied to Gene DeFilippo and said that he hadn't had any contact with the Jets when in fact he had.


The crux of the issue was not the contract, but the failure by Jagodzinski to tell DeFilippo about the contact with the Jets. DeFilippo learned of the situation between the Jets and Jagodzinski Saturday afternoon when a reporter asked him if any contact between the coach and team had been made. DeFilippo, who had asked Jagodzinski earlier about the matter and been told that published reports of an imminent meeting were false, was then informed that a meeting had been set up and that Jagodzinski had not told him the truth.
Said one athletic director familiar with the situation who has dealt with contact between professional teams and his coaches, "Making contact with the NFL is not a big deal,'' said the athletic director. "If you are good, it happens all the time. We deal with it, just as long as I know about it, it's not a problem.''
When told that Jagodzinski had not told DeFilippo about meeting with the Jets, the athletic director paused. "That's different,'' he said. "I would have a big problem with that.''

Oh, and I <3 this statement: "I think Jeff Jagodzinski did a great job here,'' said BC athletic director Gene DeFilippo late this afternoon. "But I want a person who wants to be at Boston College and who wants to stay here a long, long time. I thought I had that person.''

[DeToxRox]

I mean it's funny that last year was one of BC's best classes ever, and they followed it up with a solid year, yet this year he has quite a disappointing class. It'd jive with the fact he does not want to be a college HC anymore, which is the talk from people with ties to the program apparently. Recruiting being a main problem for him.

[DaddyTorgo]

Ah well - off with him then. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, kthnx? Way to bust up our consecutive bowl game win streak while you're at it too douchebag.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It'd jive with the fact he does not want to be a college HC anymore, which is the talk from people with ties to the program apparently. Recruiting being a main problem for him.

This seems a little odd to me though, as I'm kind of left wondering how someone who was not completely unexposed to the nature of college coaching would suddenly have this sort of realization after a couple of years. I mean, it's not like he didn't know beforehand about that part of the job since he was an assistant for several years, so how does he suddenly just decide that he doesn't like it?

I know there's plenty of people in the world who tolerated aspects of their job that they didn't like until they simply had all of it they could stand but for some reason this explanation just doesn't seem like the whole story to me, it just doesn't sound right.

[CU Tiger]

Or the fact that BC traditionally has success with lesser star rated classes. So now he is being fired because he didnt tell you that someone else called him. This is just ridiculous. Oh no we are not upset that you are talking to the NFL (which will pay you 3x the amount you make here), that is normal. Our problem is that you lied to us.... Come on. Dude played in the AC title game this year, was 2nd lowest paid coach has a lower paid staff than Duke and was laughed at when he asked for a raise and NOW they want to fire him....hell if I were Jags I'd say good.... and good luck with Logan if you want a LONG TERM coach...first call he gets from down south he will be Mark Richt's special teams coach and BC will again be looking for a coach.

[CU Tiger]

Based on RPI alone, I think it is tough for anyone to say that the Big East isn't the strongest conference in basketball for this year. The ACC however is still #2, so at least somewhat comparable. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Atocep]

Wow, Jags might be a huge ass.

Mike Ferrell of Rivals is saying Jags is basically trying to get fired because he hates recruiting and wants out of BC without quitting.

Two kids this year, Brennan Williams and Arthur Lynch, were BC locks until they met with Jags and basically he showed them no motivation to be at BC himself, let alone have them there.

Unreal.

Keep in mind that Mike Ferrell is a huge BC fan and his view is going to be tainted. He actually posted a thread on the rivals BC forums confirming the rumors and discussing it with members there.

[SackAttack]

This seems a little odd to me though, as I'm kind of left wondering how someone who was not completely unexposed to the nature of college coaching would suddenly have this sort of realization after a couple of years. I mean, it's not like he didn't know beforehand about that part of the job since he was an assistant for several years, so how does he suddenly just decide that he doesn't like it?

I know there's plenty of people in the world who tolerated aspects of their job that they didn't like until they simply had all of it they could stand but for some reason this explanation just doesn't seem like the whole story to me, it just doesn't sound right.

Well, part of it is likely that recruiting is a little different when you're being told with whom to make nice than it is when you're the one who's calling all the shots. Or am I wrong, and the linebackers coach is the one who goes out and recruits talent for his position group?

I was always under the impression that the head coach was largely the one pulling the strings there, but that positional coaches did meet with their prospective incoming talent.

[Swaggs]

Well, part of it is likely that recruiting is a little different when you're being told with whom to make nice than it is when you're the one who's calling all the shots. Or am I wrong, and the linebackers coach is the one who goes out and recruits talent for his position group?

I was always under the impression that the head coach was largely the one pulling the strings there, but that positional coaches did meet with their prospective incoming talent.

I believe most schools assign coaches to territories or particular states, rather than just letting position coaches scout for their particular positions. For example, I know at WVU, our DB coach recruits New Jersey, our DL coach recruits Eastern PA and portions of Florida, and our RB coach hits VA. That way, the coaches build relationships and trust with the HS coaches in the area. I'm sure the position coaches have some say in who gets scholarship offers, but the coach of the particular territory does most of the legwork before the head coach and position coach "close" during official visits and the final at home visits.

[Logan]

Yeah I think it's somewhat of a mix at different schools.