College Football Week 8 Discussion

[BishopMVP]

Games I'm looking forward to this weekend: Picks vs. Spread 12-17-1 (aka I hope no one is using this post for anything other than a reminder what games are on ;) ) Not a good weekend last weekend, but at least I was out watching my school put itself back into the playoff race with a win over UNH than watching my picks go down in flames.

South Florida @ Pitt (-6.5) 12:00 ESPN360 - Neither team has beaten anyone, so would it count as a quality win if they get one here?

UConn @ West Virginia (-7) 12:00 ESPNU - I'm loathe to pick a game with as much emotion as this one, but if West Virginia just stopped fumbling so much they'd have a very good offense.

Arkansas @ Ole Miss (-6.5) 12:21 ESPN360 - Weird start time. I'm sticking with the hot hand.

Clemson @ Miami (-4.5) 3:30 ABC - I could plausibly argue Clemson as a top 10 team if it weren't for that 2nd straight choke against Maryland. They definitely do have the athletes on defense to matchup vs. Miami, and a win here would be huge for TCU.

BC @ ND (-8) 3:30PM NBC - Maybe I saw them against the wrong opponents (Clemson and VT), but how did BC possibly put up 52 last weekend? That makes me think ND's poor defense will put the offense in another one-possession shootout. Last year, it came down to ND's O-Line being dominated by BC's front 4 (and Mark Herzlich) and Jimmy Clausen overthrowing Kyle Rudolph up the seam 3 times, and Clausen/ND's O-Line have improved while BC lost Herzlich and Brace. To be honest, I just want the win over the Eagles. 6 straight is too much for any team, but at least USC is USC. 6 straight to BC is embarassing, especially with the series going on hiatus soon. Last week's comeback was nice, but the result was as expected - 2 more losses from Weis and say hello to Brian Kelly.

Penn St. @ Michigan (+4.5) 3:30 Big 10? - Hey, it's a real opponent for Penn St! And a real defense for Rodriguez/Forcier to play against. I think PSU is back to being underrated after that late choke vs. Iowa - the defense is just too good for Michigan this year.

#14 UMass @ #1 Richmond 3:30 No TV - Win here, and we're basically into the playoffs. Lose and we have to win out. RB Jonathan Rodriguez was huge last weekend.

Iowa @ Michigan St. (-1) 7:00 Big 10 Network - Iowa +2.0 turnover margin (2nd in nation), MSU -0.7 (93rd). If Iowa wins this one, I'll have to get over their narrow escapes vs. UNI and Ark St and put them in the top 10.

Florida @ Mississippi St. (+23) 7:30 ESPN - MSU South is 3-4, but all 4 were to good teams and 3 were close. I haven't seen enough out of Florida's offense to think they cover a spread this big.

TCU @ BYU (+2.5) 7:30 Versus? - Stat of the game: BYU converts 70% of its 3rd downs, TCU gives up 28%.

Auburn @ LSU (-7.5) 7:30 ESPN2 - Maybe LSU took the bye week to realize their offense blows and its time to start the Russell Shepherd era. On the other side, Auburn just lost at home against Kentucky despite leading in the 4th quarter, in large part to their QB sucking. I think Auburn rebounds and gets the win, hopefully at least the 2 defenses keep it low scoring and close.

Oregon St. @ USC (-20.5) 8:00 ABC - Go for 2 in a row Jacquizz, and throw Cincy right into the thick of the title discussion.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Georgia Tech has to avoid an obvious chance for a letdown against Virginia.

And I'll be pulling for UConn over West Virginia.

[MizzouRah]

I'm scared to watch the Mizzou - Texas game.. I hope my wife will hold me.

[Dr. Sak]

Penn State will lose a heartbreaker to Michigan again.

[RomaGoth]

Penn State will lose a heartbreaker to Michigan again.

This should be a very entertaining game. I see Penn State winning, but it could go down to the wire again.

[Dr. Sak]

I've gone to the last two at Ann Arbor and I told my buddy if I ask to ever go again just kick me in the nuts and take the $50 out of my wallet. It will be less painful.

[RomaGoth]

...I told my buddy if I ask to ever go again just kick me in the nuts...

I would do this for free!!!! (I jest...;) )

[gstelmack]

South Florida @ Pitt (-6.5) 12:00 ESPN360 - Neither team has beaten anyone

This says far more about how far FSU has fallen than it does about either of these team's schedules.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I've gone to the last two at Ann Arbor and I told my buddy if I ask to ever go again just kick me in the nuts and take the $50 out of my wallet. It will be less painful.

Come on now. Ann Arbor is beautiful, especially in the Fall. It's a wonderful place to go spend a Saturday afternoon.

[Dr. Sak]

Come on now. Ann Arbor is beautiful, especially in the Fall. It's a wonderful place to go spend a Saturday afternoon.

I agree. The people were very nice to me and I would go back in a heartbeat if I knew for sure Penn State would win.

[JeeberD]

Tulsa at UTEP tonight on ESPN. The Miners are going to get raped, most likely...unless the team that beat Houston manages to somehow show up.

[RomaGoth]

I agree. The people were very nice to me and I would go back in a heartbeat if I knew for sure Penn State would win.

On a related topic, how is that time machine schematic coming along?

[CU Tiger]

Leaving in the AM heading to Miami....gonna have fun regardless of the outcome

[larrymcg421]

Definitely a game the Canes need to be prepared for. This will be no cakewalk. If they're asleep at the start. they could find themselves trying to climb out of a big hole.

[BishopMVP]

This says far more about how far FSU has fallen than it does about either of these team's schedules.Yeah, at the start of the season Thursday night's UNC-FSU game looked like a good bet to have 1 good team in it.

To follow-up on last week's Tyrelle Pryor discussion, looks like Pryor's HS coach fires back after being blamed behind the scenes - High school coach of Ohio State Buckeyes QB Terrelle Pryor says he's not being used effectively - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4582474)

Also, how's this for "supportive" quotes from your WRBuckeyes receiver DeVier Posey (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=381982), one of Pryor's favorite targets, made the case that too much has been expected of Pryor, a sophomore who has commanded attention from the moment he set foot on campus.
"From his first pass, [people said] he's really not that good. But I really feel that's kind of hard for a guy like that, you know what I mean? There's only one Tim Tebow (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=183484) in this world and I don't really know what people want from [Pryor]," Posey said. "He's going to get better. He really can't do much worse."
Posey went on to say Pryor will improve, although he was a bit unsure of when.

[tarcone]

Iowa @ Michigan St. (-1) 7:00 Big 10 Network - Iowa +2.0 turnover margin (2nd in nation), MSU -0.7 (93rd). If Iowa wins this one, I'll have to get over their narrow escapes vs. UNI and Ark St and put them in the top 10.

Not in your top 10? You have just shown yourself to have no credibility.

This Iowa defense is one of the best in the nation. The offensive line is maturing each week.

The run game is being filled by a couple no names because the starter blew out his knee.
To win a national championship you need some luck. Iowa has that this season.

This should be another good one. Im holding my breath.

GO HAWKS

[Lathum]

Terrible clock managment by Tulsa

[Logan]

Not in your top 10? You have just shown yourself to have no credibility.

This Iowa defense is one of the best in the nation. The offensive line is maturing each week.

The run game is being filled by a couple no names because the starter blew out his knee.
To win a national championship you need some luck. Iowa has that this season.

This should be another good one. Im holding my breath.

GO HAWKS

They were ranked 11th/12th last week and the Big 10 is a shitfest. His credibility is just fine.

[SirFozzie]

JeeberD: Are you ok man? Nice comeback there.

[JeeberD]

Nearly had a heart attack...I was sure the Miners were getting my hopes up just to break my heart again. WOOHOO!!!

Edit: Donald Buckram is the MFing MAN. He needs to touch the ball 2 times a game the rest of the season...

[dawgfan]

Washington hosts the pure evil that is Oregon this week, and with any justice in the world the Huskies will crush the Duck dreams of a Rose Bowl and make it as clear as the black and white colors Oregon will be wearing which team has the better 1st year head coach...

[SirFozzie]

Nearly had a heart attack...I was sure the Miners were getting my hopes up just to break my heart again. WOOHOO!!!

Edit: Donald Buckram is the MFing MAN. He needs to touch the ball 2 times a game the rest of the season...

2 times a game? I'd give it to him 25-30 times a game. Very shifty, couple of those holes were not that big. I'd worry about his fitness, he was absolutely gassed and looked destroyed at the end of the game

[JeeberD]

Heh, meant 25... :redface:

Edit: Regarding his fitness, he's a former sprinter for UTEP, so endurance may be a slight issue. Though Houston might not agree...he ran for 262 yards and 4TDs against them on 32 carries.

[BishopMVP]

Not in your top 10? You have just shown yourself to have no credibility.Well, I'll freely admit I've apparently pretty much seen them at their worst as on TV I've seen them

-Block a 2nd straight FG to beat a 1-AA team at home in a game they got outgained
-Get dominated in the 1st quarter by a Penn St team who's best win is Minnesota at home? before I went to a party with no TV
-Survive an Ark St comeback to beat a 1-4 Sun Belt team by 3 points
-Beat Michigan by 2 at home when Mich's QB was injured and they turned it over 5 times

It's cute how they've copied Ohio St's win ugly playbook, and I certainly don't have any biases for their Big 10 competitors, but they've survived thanks to an unsustainable turnover margin, and they're going to get tagged by at least 1 of the 4 4-3 teams on their schedule when that flips - hopefully more than 1 so we don't have to see them lose by 30 against USC in the Rose Bowl. The offense is below average and the defense is not one of the best in the nation - it's 22nd in YPG allowed and 27th in yards per play allowed. But if I was really out of line with the general consensus, Iowa wouldn't be an underdog against an unranked 4-3 team this weekend.

[larrymcg421]

I thought this poll was pretty interesting...


8. Georgia Tech
9. Brigham Young
12. Houston
15. Miami


So Miami is worse than a GA Tech team they beat, worse than a BYU team that lost 54-21 at home to an FSU team Miami beat on the road, and worse than a Houston team that lost to UTEP?

[CU Tiger]

I will tell ya come Monday ;)

[BishopMVP]

I thought this poll was pretty interesting...



So Miami is worse than a GA Tech team they beat,I have all 3 basically tied, but in his defense on this, you have the triangle of Miami>GT, VT>Miami, GT>VT, and Miami's loss was by the biggest margin.

[larrymcg421]

I have all 3 basically tied, but in his defense on this, you have the triangle of Miami>GT, VT>Miami, GT>VT, and Miami's loss was by the biggest margin.

I can understand that argument somewhat, but not the BYU or Houston arguments.

Even still, your response shows why I don't like blindly going by margin of victory. Miami's win over GT was just as dominating as VT's win over Miami. Either way, there's no way Miami should be 7 spots lower than GT.

[DeToxRox]

I thought this poll was pretty interesting...



So Miami is worse than a GA Tech team they beat, worse than a BYU team that lost 54-21 at home to an FSU team Miami beat on the road, and worse than a Houston team that lost to UTEP?

I'd be livid too if the Molson poll kept my team out of the BCS.

Seriously, who the fuck cares dude? It's a guy on a forums poll that you find necessary to bring up in this thread for no apparent reason.

Maybe he just hates Miami?

Seriously, the fact you brought this up is hilarious on so many levels.

[BishopMVP]

I can understand that argument somewhat, but not the BYU or Houston arguments.

Even still, your response shows why I don't like blindly going by margin of victory. Miami's win over GT was just as dominating as VT's win over Miami. Either way, there's no way Miami should be 7 spots lower than GT.I agree completely, which is why I have Miami at the top of the 3. But I can see the argument the other way.

Detox's post is even dumber. The only reason to post polls, and generally in this thread at all is to argue about minutiae like that.

[Dr. Sak]

I agree completely, which is why I have Miami at the top of the 3. But I can see the argument the other way.

Detox's post is even dumber. The only reason to post polls, and generally in this thread at all is to argue about minutiae like that.

I don't care about the bitching but if you want to call someone out, at least have the balls to post your own poll so it can be scrutinized.

[DeToxRox]

I agree completely, which is why I have Miami at the top of the 3. But I can see the argument the other way.

Detox's post is even dumber. The only reason to post polls, and generally in this thread at all is to argue about minutiae like that.

He took a poll from another thread and brought it up here to basically call someone out. If you want to bitch, do it in that thread where people who care are all congregated. There is no reason to bring it up over here at all.

[DeToxRox]

I don't care about the bitching but if you want to call someone out, at least have the balls to post your own poll so it can be scrutinized.

Also a valid point.

BTW here's my poll for next week:

1. Michigan
2. Everyone else
3. Penn State

[larrymcg421]

I'd be livid too if the Molson poll kept my team out of the BCS.

Seriously, who the fuck cares dude? It's a guy on a forums poll that you find necessary to bring up in this thread for no apparent reason.

Maybe he just hates Miami?

Seriously, the fact you brought this up is hilarious on so many levels.

Err, who said I really care? I saw a poll that looked weird and decided to mention it. It was brought up in this thread, because Cartman asked people not to do it in the voting thread. Not sure why it bothered you so much, but maybe you could get a sense of perspective and realize you pretty much did what you criticized me for doing. In fact, let me fix your post:

Seriously, who the fuck cares dude? It's a guy responding to a forums poll that you find necessary to respond to for no apparent reason.

[RomaGoth]

Not in your top 10? You have just shown yourself to have no credibility.

This Iowa defense is one of the best in the nation. The offensive line is maturing each week.

The run game is being filled by a couple no names because the starter blew out his knee.
To win a national championship you need some luck. Iowa has that this season.

This should be another good one. Im holding my breath.

GO HAWKS

LMAO at this homerism, no offense....

They were ranked 11th/12th last week and the Big 10 is a shitfest. His credibility is just fine.

:+1:

Well, I'll freely admit I've apparently pretty much seen them at their worst as on TV I've seen them

-Block a 2nd straight FG to beat a 1-AA team at home in a game they got outgained
-Get dominated in the 1st quarter by a Penn St team who's best win is Minnesota at home? before I went to a party with no TV
-Survive an Ark St comeback to beat a 1-4 Sun Belt team by 3 points
-Beat Michigan by 2 at home when Mich's QB was injured and they turned it over 5 times

It's cute how they've copied Ohio St's win ugly playbook, and I certainly don't have any biases for their Big 10 competitors, but they've survived thanks to an unsustainable turnover margin, and they're going to get tagged by at least 1 of the 4 4-3 teams on their schedule when that flips - hopefully more than 1 so we don't have to see them lose by 30 against USC in the Rose Bowl. The offense is below average and the defense is not one of the best in the nation - it's 22nd in YPG allowed and 27th in yards per play allowed. But if I was really out of line with the general consensus, Iowa wouldn't be an underdog against an unranked 4-3 team this weekend.

Exactly. As a Michigan fan, I still like the Big Ten, but the conference is a joke, and has been for several years now. I am looking forward to seeing Iowa lose a couple of games so I don't have to hear about how they are a title contender.

Florida, USC, Alabama, and Texas would slap them around. I am pretty sure that Boise State, Cincinnati, and TCU would beat them too.

[larrymcg421]

I don't care about the bitching but if you want to call someone out, at least have the balls to post your own poll so it can be scrutinized.

Fair enough, but the only reason I haven't been posting polls is because Cartman stated he preferred that the same people do it every week and I missed the first few weeks.

[larrymcg421]

He took a poll from another thread and brought it up here to basically call someone out. If you want to bitch, do it in that thread where people who care are all congregated. There is no reason to bring it up over here at all.

Except Cartman said not to do that.



Please keep the thread with voting submissions free of any comments about someone's vote. If there is an obvious mistake or omission, that is ok, but running commentary muddies up the thread. Comments should go into the weekly college football thread.Look, there was a poll posted that I felt like responding to. I made my points. Bishop made his points. He made a good point. We discussed margin of victory and I thought it was an interesting college football discussion. For some reason, that got your panties in a twist.

[DeToxRox]

Except Cartman said not to do that.

Look, there was a poll posted that I felt like responding to. I made my points. Bishop made his points. He made a good point. We discussed margin of victory and I thought it was an interesting college football discussion. For some reason, that got your panties in a twist.

Panties in a twist? You could only wish. I am just used to you being a dick in pretty much every thread you end up posting in, so I assumed it was the case here. I was wrong, so be it.

[DeToxRox]

I thought this poll was pretty interesting...



So Miami is worse than a GA Tech team they beat, worse than a BYU team that lost 54-21 at home to an FSU team Miami beat on the road, and worse than a Houston team that lost to UTEP?

Since this was going to be the topic, I'll even bite.

Yes Miami being ranked lower then these teams is a stretch. Obviously being lower then BYU and Houston is a stretch, and though they beat GT and have a better record, as of right now I personally think it'd be a push if they played again.

That said, they don't so yes Miami ought to be ahead of them most likely.

Hell I could see Miami end up 12-1 (With an ACC Title win) going into a BCS game, but I wouldn't consider them a top 5 team, just a very good team who took advantage of the schedule they had.

[RomaGoth]

Since this was going to be the topic, I'll even bite.

Yes Miami being ranked lower then these teams is a stretch. Obviously being lower then BYU and Houston is a stretch, and though they beat GT and have a better record, as of right now I personally think it'd be a push if they played again.

That said, they don't so yes Miami ought to be ahead of them most likely.

Hell I could see Miami end up 12-1 (With an ACC Title win) going into a BCS game, but I wouldn't consider them a top 5 team, just a very good team who took advantage of the schedule they had.

Miami's only loss is VT, and if they played again it could very well go the other way. I wouldn't say that they have an easy schedule by any stretch. Perhaps not the most difficult in the country, but definitely not easy.

[larrymcg421]

It's really hard to watch FSU these days.

[tarcone]

I cant wait until Iowa is in a BCS game. Yeah Im a homer and freely admit it. But I have watched them. Their defense is great. They have a stud at DE, MLB and S. Plus a couple above average CBs.
They play a conservative offensive game. One that goes back to Hayden Fry days. Run the ball, and throw 8 yard outs, and take the occasional shot down field. This is a great formula to win 12 games this season.
Sure Iowa doesnt have a bunch of 5 star guys running around, but the sum is greater then the parts.

If they go undefeated this season, it will be a joke if a one loss team vaults them into the championship game.

As far as the Big 10, they have taken some lumps. Unfortunately, they cant pull the studs out of Florida or Texas. Why would those kids want to go to Michigan where the tail is covered up 9 months out of the year, when they can chase it in bikinis in Florida or Alabama for 9 months out of the year?

[Lathum]

I cant wait until Iowa is in a BCS game.



be careful what you wish for.

[Noop]

Wow. Florida State just took the lead.

[Noop]

Amazing comeback by Florida State Christian Ponder may be the best QB in America but no one knows because our team sucks.

[Wolfpack]

I know our team sucks and will likely get the crap kicked out of it by FSU next Saturday, but for now...*snicker* BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That was some dreadful work by UNC to give up that lead.

On a more sober note...Duke might just be the best team in the state of North Carolina this year. Oy.

[Recoil]

On a more sober note...Duke might just be the best team in the state of North Carolina this year. Oy.

Nah, I'm gonna give the nod to Appalachian State or Elon.

[Butter]

Amazing comeback by Florida State Christian Ponder may be the best QB in America but no one knows because our team sucks.

Uh, no.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Anybody know why so much money is being bet on Mizzou in Vegas? The line has dropped 4 1/2 to 5 points over the last few days depending on where you look. Was there an injury situation to other players outside of McCoy's thumb that I didn't hear about?

[Butter]

I don't know, but it's not wise to overextend yourself on credit like that. Makes for a very messy time when it comes time to pay up.

[Dr. Sak]

Anybody know why so much money is being bet on Mizzou in Vegas? The line has dropped 4 1/2 to 5 points over the last few days depending on where you look. Was there an injury situation to other players outside of McCoy's thumb that I didn't hear about?

Yea he stuck it in some girl's ass again and re-injured it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Yea he stuck it in some girl's ass again and re-injured it.

Definitely a FOFC All-Star post there. Well done.

[BishopMVP]

I don't care about the bitching but if you want to call someone out, at least have the balls to post your own poll so it can be scrutinized.Are you talking to me or Larry here? Because I've posted mine in the other thread every week since the season started. It would be a bit redundant and egotistical to post it a second time imo.He took a poll from another thread and brought it up here to basically call someone out. If you want to bitch, do it in that thread where people who care are all congregated. There is no reason to bring it up over here at all.That's a thread where cartman asked everyone not to discuss so he could tabulate them easier (and in fact asked us to discuss it in these threads). This is a catch-all thread about college football this week(end). Since there's pretty much 100% overlap between posters and subject matter in the two threads I don't understand why you were apparently virulently opposed to discussion about an intriguing and potentially very important ranking question if those 3 teams win out.

[larrymcg421]

So under the three way tiebreaker rules for the ACC, right now Miami would be the division champ over Ga Tech and Va Tech.

The way it works out is it comes down to the top 2 of the three in the BCS standings. Then if those two teams are within 5 BCS spots of each other, it comes down to head to head. Va Tech is within 5 spots of Miami, but they are the lowest ranked of the three in the BCS, so they get eliminated.

Miami needs Ga Tech to keep winning to preserve the three way tie and to stay ahead of Va Tech in the BCS standings.

[Dr. Sak]

Are you talking to me or Larry here? Because I've posted mine in the other thread every week since the season started. It would be a bit redundant and egotistical to post it a second time imo..

I wasn't referring to you.

[DeToxRox]

Are you talking to me or Larry here? Because I've posted mine in the other thread every week since the season started. It would be a bit redundant and egotistical to post it a second time imo.That's a thread where cartman asked everyone not to discuss so he could tabulate them easier (and in fact asked us to discuss it in these threads). This is a catch-all thread about college football this week(end). Since there's pretty much 100% overlap between posters and subject matter in the two threads I don't understand why you were apparently virulently opposed to discussion about an intriguing and potentially very important ranking question if those 3 teams win out.

I'd respond to this by saying simply, when has a poll ever mattered the third week in October? Different strokes I guess. I just did not see the reason to even discuss it because recent history shows how any one poll looks now, will be totally blown up in a month and none of it will even matter.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Fumbled punt leads to a GT field goal, 3-0 Jackets leading UVA midway through Q1.

[BishopMVP]

I wasn't referring to you.word.I'd respond to this by saying simply, when has a poll ever mattered the third week in October? Different strokes I guess. I just did not see the reason to even discuss it because recent history shows how any one poll looks now, will be totally blown up in a month and none of it will even matter.Last year when Oklahoma was the highest ranked 1 loss team at that time, held serve and made it to the NC over 1-loss USC, or when their BCS ranking enabled them to make it to the conference championship - exactly what the tiebreaker is here in the ACC 3-way tie.

In other news, yay, football is back on. WV returned the opening kickoff for a TD vs. UConn, but UConn has responded and tied it at 7. Pitt had a nice drive to go up 7-0 on USF, and Terrelle Pryor looks to be running more (7-33 in the 1st Q) but OSU missed a 30-yd FG and it's still 0-0 after 1.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Can you believe WVU opening the game vs UConn with a 97 yd KOR TD?
Even better, UConn answers with a 9 play, 67 yd drive to tie it back up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UVA ties it at 3 with a crossbar crawler in the driving rain. GT gave 'em field position with a fake punt that came up short around midfield.

[JonInMiddleGA]

And Nesbitt fumbles all alone in the driving rain, give UVA a great chance at the Tech 25.

edit to add: They settle for a FG, now 6-3 UVA early Q2.

[MJ4H]

Arkansas coming out flat vs Ole Miss coming out jacked up = not a good start. Sigh.

[MJ4H]

Pretty much everything going wrong. From the first play of the game (a blown personal foul call, deja vu) to the wide-open touchdown pass that was just inexplicably dropped just now.

Sigh. Plenty of time to pull the heads out and I think they will, but way to dig a hole.

[MJ4H]

Finally woke up and had both Mallett not over-throwing and receivers not dropping the ball on the same play and it is 17-7 Ole Miss nearing the end of the half.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT opens the 2nd half with a nice drive keyed by Anthony Allen, now leads 20-6 with 4:13 left in Q3.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I think we can officially put any notion that Nebraska is any good to rest. Losing 9-7 to Iowa State at home. Mizzou is going to look back on that 4th quarter collapse as a huge reason they don't win the North and they have no one to blame but themselves.

[MJ4H]

Jesus could Arkansas play worse.

[MJ4H]

And the answer is yes. 24-10 Ole Miss.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Anthony Allen 20 yd run, it's 27-9 GT with about 10 minutes left in rainy Charlottesville.

[MJ4H]

Nice tip drill and Arkansas answers, 24-17.

[sovereignstar]

GO GOPHERS!!1!

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT gets another rushing TD from Nesbitt, now 34-9 with 3 minutes left, which should secure the Jackets first win at Virginia since 1990 when Scott Sisson's last second FG beat the #1 ranked Cavs 41-38.

[MJ4H]

27-17 now. Arkansas makes a 52 yard field goal after the play clock expires and they won't count it. Apparently that only works in Florida.

[digamma]

Takin' care of business. On to Nashville!

And oh yeah, GO CLEMpSON!

[MJ4H]

150th dropped pass by a receiver today. I think we have fumbled every single kick-off, too.

[MJ4H]

Suicide watch in effect.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Nebraska loses to ISU after their 8th turnover of the day.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

OU looking to pull an upset in Lawrence. Up 7-0 and just picked off a Reesing pass to get possession again.

[DaddyTorgo]

GROUNDING IN THE ENDZONE...SUCK IT JIMMY CLAUSEN...SAFETY!!!!!!

[Lathum]

Huskies look great in the first quarter.

[larrymcg421]

There was a flag thrown on like 7 straight plays in the Miami-Clemson game. Clemson had 3rd and 49.

[DaddyTorgo]

There was a flag thrown on like 7 straight plays in the Miami-Clemson game. Clemson had 3rd and 49.

i wonder if that's some sort of record?

[Lathum]

fuck

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Reesing throws his 3rd interception of the 1st half. Pick-6. OU up 14-0.

[JPhillips]

Michigan fans may want to reconsider those "M for M" shirts.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan is being just destroyed. I think expectations got wildly out of control after beating a very overrated Notre Dame team. They have been playing well enough but the two freshman QB's are now like water finding their level. It was bound to happen eventually, but the hope was it wouldn't happen to both at the same time.

Thankfully Illinois and Purdue are next, so the ship can be somewhat righted going into the home stretch, though as things stand right now, nothing is certain.

[Logan]

There was a flag thrown on like 7 straight plays in the Miami-Clemson game. Clemson had 3rd and 49.

i wonder if that's some sort of record?

I was so astonished by what I saw during Rutgers-Temple, 2004 that I took this picture of the scoreboard:


http://i34.tinypic.com/2eprhav.jpg

[RedKingGold]

Ugh. Penn State's special team woes continue.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

KU is taking an absolute thumping. No one in the B12 North appears to have any interest in stepping up as the clear leader.

[tarcone]

Iowa is the only BCS top 25 team to have beaten 3 Top 25 BCS teams.


GO HAWKS

[k0ruptr]

Man, its gonna be REALLY interesting if Oregon and Boise St. Win out.

what happens in the BCS then? Oregon would have to be ranked in the top 5 right? at least . With a win over top 10 ranked Cal (at the time and possibly top 5 ranked USC!

Boise would be undefeated with a win over these Ducks , wow. I would think they would be ranked ahead of Oregon also. I'm so rooting for this to happen.

[Passacaglia]

Michigan is being just destroyed. I think expectations got wildly out of control after beating a very overrated Notre Dame team. They have been playing well enough but the two freshman QB's are now like water finding their level. It was bound to happen eventually, but the hope was it wouldn't happen to both at the same time.

Thankfully Illinois and Purdue are next, so the ship can be somewhat righted going into the home stretch, though as things stand right now, nothing is certain.

Yes yes yes yes yes. All along, my hope was to get back to a bowl game. I admit I got caught up in some of the hype, and revised it to hoping for an 8-4 season. Now I'm back to hoping for a bowl game. I forget, do you have to win 6 or 7 to be bowl-eligible?

[DeToxRox]

Yes yes yes yes yes. All along, my hope was to get back to a bowl game. I admit I got caught up in some of the hype, and revised it to hoping for an 8-4 season. Now I'm back to hoping for a bowl game. I forget, do you have to win 6 or 7 to be bowl-eligible?

6. I think they'll finish 7-5 still which was my prediction before the year so we'll see.

As they say, you're not as good as you look when you win, you're not as bad as you look when you lose. It's somewhere in the middle.

[tarcone]

6 against FBS schools

[RedKingGold]

Man, its gonna be REALLY interesting if Oregon and Boise St. Win out.

what happens in the BCS then? Oregon would have to be ranked in the top 5 right? at least . With a win over top 10 ranked Cal (at the time and possibly top 5 ranked USC!

Boise would be undefeated with a win over these Ducks , wow. I would think they would be ranked ahead of Oregon also. I'm so rooting for this to happen.

Boise and Oregon in BCS = Some of the lowest ratings ever.

Just sayin'

[DeToxRox]

6 against FBS schools

1 non FBS win counts. Anything more doesn't.

[Eaglesfan27]

Tennessee just pulled within 2 of Alabama with 1:19 to go. 12-10. Come on, get the onside kick..

[Eaglesfan27]

OH YES!!! Tennessee got the onside kick!!

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow! Crompton with a beautiful pass over a few defenders. Tennessee is in field goal range.

[Eaglesfan27]

44 yard FG attempt for the win...

[Eaglesfan27]

It's blocked again! :(

[DeToxRox]

Nice work by PSU today. Michigan did not look good at all. A lot of because of PSU not making mistakes and playing within themselves, but the Michigan QB's are obviously struggling mightily in a QB heavy offense.

[Logan]

Can you advance a blocked kick if it crosses the LOS? That ball was just sitting there as everyone thought you ball went backwards, until finally an Alabama kid picked it up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Imagine if they'd called the celebration penalty.

[JonInMiddleGA]

1 minute left, Clemson down 34-31 to Miami but driving toward FG range.

[JonInMiddleGA]

34 yd FG ties it with 0:05 left in regulation.

[mckerney]

Are the announcers in the Clemson - Miami game seriously questioning the strategy of going on defense first in OT? What next, why it was a good idea for Marty Mornhinweg to take the wind?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Are the announcers in the Clemson - Miami game seriously questioning the strategy of going on defense first in OT? What next, why it was a good idea for Marty Mornhinweg to take the wind?

That came from the lead announcer inexplicably saying Clemson took the ball when they won the toss & then trying to backtrack to cover his stupidity/brainfart.

[JonInMiddleGA]

TOUCHDOWN , CLEMSON WINS !!!

[Radii]

RARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR CLEMSON!!!!

[digamma]

YABO DABO DOOOOOOO!!!!

[JonInMiddleGA]

And with that Clemson win, everything just got turnt up a little more in the ATL.

[Logan]

For the second straight play, the PBP guy in the LSU-Auburn game incorrectly calls a dropped ball a completion.

[Swaggs]

I went to the UConn-WVU game today. It was the strangest sports atmosphere I have ever seen. The moment of silence was really eerie -- I kept expecting a drunk student to yell or do something embarassing, but they surprisingly did not.

Anyway, glad we got away from that with the W. Devine is a rockstar.

[tarcone]

So if a team blocks two FGs to help win a game against an inferior opponent, does it make that team unworthy of their lofty ranking?

Just asking

[RainMaker]

For those who get Versus, check out the TCU-BYU game. TCU has a great defense that is fun to watch.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So if a team blocks two FGs to help win a game against an inferior opponent, does it make that team unworthy of their lofty ranking? Just asking

I wouldn't be surprised to see Florida slip back into #1 (assuming they handle their business tonight).

But most teams that eventually win titles have a game like that -- at least nailbitingly closer than it should have been against a lesser opponent -- on their final resume. That's one of the differences between the highest echelon & the next tier, they win those games that other teams lose.

[Logan]

Clemson just never makes sense.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Subtle, I like it :)
from espn.com's Heather Dinich ACC blog

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. -- Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson is a funny guy. He's also a smart coach. After all, he reads the blog.

Ok, so I picked against Georgia Tech, two weeks in a row. And twice now they've proven me wrong. But hey, who's counting?

PJ is.

Asked after their 34-9 win over Virginia if he thinks people still doubt his team, Johnson responded without hesitation: "Oh I think so, right, Heather?"

Not anymore, Paul.

[RedKingGold]

Dude needs to chill out about Iowa. As a PSU fan, even I can say that Iowa beat noone of real substance to be where they're at right now.

Cincinnati is probably better.

[JonInMiddleGA]

TCU trying to TCB against BYU. 14-0 late Q1

[Karlifornia]

So if a team blocks two FGs to help win a game against an inferior opponent, does it make that team unworthy of their lofty ranking?

Just asking

Comparing Northern Iowa to Tennessee, huh? I don't want to see Alabama in the title game, either, but Iowa is now on the list of teams I'm rooting for to lose because of annoying homerism.

[Logan]

Dude needs to chill out about Iowa. As a PSU fan, even I can say that Iowa beat noone of real substance to be where they're at right now.

Cincinnati is probably better.

If they were matched up, I'd take Cincy laying....13.5 points?

[tarcone]

Everyone IS against Iowa. And at no time did I compare UNI to Tennessee. But everyone points to that.game and says Iowa is overrated. Yet all they have done is win. We won't know if they would beat cinci unless they get them in a bowl game.
Homerism? You bet. My team is 7-0. Is yours?

[Logan]

No, everyone is against you.

[tarcone]

No, everyone is against you.



LOL

[DeToxRox]

No, everyone is against you.

It wouldn't be like that if he acknowledged Allah is Love.

[RainMaker]

Everyone IS against Iowa. And at no time did I compare UNI to Tennessee. But everyone points to that.game and says Iowa is overrated. Yet all they have done is win. We won't know if they would beat cinci unless they get them in a bowl game.
Homerism? You bet. My team is 7-0. Is yours?
No one is against them. It's more an issue of them not really looking good against really bad teams. They are ranked in the top 10. You could argue they should be ahead of some teams and behind others. But I think they are treated rather fairly.

[Logan]

Be sure to spend halftime catching up on every big offensive play that your team has put up against the vaunted Michigan State defense. With 90 yards on 32 plays, you should still have enough time to take a nice, relaxing shit.

[cartman]

No slow start for Texas this week.

[tarcone]

Poor choice of words, no one is against Iowa.
And Iowa is flawed, no doubt about it. Their oline needs to improve and Stanzi has his moments. But that defense is nails.
But we are 7-0.

[Logan]

No slow start for Texas this week.

Those 14 quick points were clearly all the result of one Mizzou dropped ball.

[tarcone]

Mizzous QB runs a 4.6 40 when his ankle isn't bad. It's really affected his game and mizzous offense.

[Swaggs]

Sparty is Love?

[tarcone]

No but defense is

[Swaggs]

Claiborne is a stud -- has he been this good all year?

[Eaglesfan27]

Ronald Johnson with a beautiful diving TD catch. Barkley's 2nd TD of the day. Having Johnson back healthy is going to add a lot the 2nd half of the season.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

So what happened in the MSU/Iowa game? MSU looked in good position to at least kick a FG. I'm at work, so of course I come back to the game & it's Iowa's ball. Missed FG or turnover?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

That was a HIT!

edit: Good to see 22 walk off, even if he has no clue where to.

[Swaggs]

Wow... great hook and ladder by Michigan State there.

[Passacaglia]

Wow, hook and ladder.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

OOH! Did you guys see that lateral?

This is a fun game!

[sovereignstar]

Schmidty or tarcone? tarcone or Schmidty?

Tie?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Schmidty or tarcone? tarcone or Schmidty?

Tie?

I don't think they own any ties. :D

[Swaggs]

Man... When he threw that up there, I thought that was going to be a pick for sure.

[DeToxRox]

That's IOWA D.

GO HAWKS

[EagleFan]

BS!!! That ball was out before getting to the end zone.

[Swaggs]

So, has there been more yardage in the last 2:30 minutes than in the first 57:30?

[Swaggs]

I'm glad I don't care who wins this game, otherwise my BP would be going nuts right now.

[Lathum]

YOU MUST RESPECT IOWA!!!

[timmynausea]

I don't care what anyone says. Iowa is a legit Top 40 team.

[tarcone]

CAN YOU BELIEVE IT! YES!!!!!!!!!

[tarcone]

8-0 for the 1st time in HISTORY

[Karlifornia]

Just think..if Iowa keeps doing this..the country could get the real treat of an Iowa/Alabama title game.

[tarcone]

I pit Iowas defense against ANY offense in the country

[tarcone]

I woud love to see Alabama play in 35 degree weather. I imagine they would play horrible.

[tarcone]

WOW

[tarcone]

Its going to be hard to go to sleep tonight

[DeToxRox]

Its going to be hard to go to sleep tonight

I'd put the computer away and try to sleep now.

[tarcone]

LOL

[tarcone]

1889 to present. 1st time ever to go 8-0.

[DeToxRox]

Long streak, Iowa wins or Tarcone posts?

[Tigercat]

LSU actually looks like a top 10 team tonight. Granted, this Auburn team isn't very good right now, but still a nice offensive and defensive performance tonight. I would say complete performance, but we have had some horrid luck on special teams.

[tarcone]

WOO HOO!!!!! BOTH

[tarcone]

Hate on Florida. They are barely winning again.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I pit Iowas defense against ANY offense in the country

There's an ACC contender who wouldn't mind taking you up on that (and who knows, might just get the chance).

edit to add: Well, probably not get the chance, since I would figure a BCS Iowa ends up in the Rose against USC.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan scored in the 30's vs Iowa with 5 turnovers on the road at night. Not that impressive.

[tarcone]

What a roller coaster ride.

[Ajaxab]

Iowa and Bama are both looking like tOSU circa '02.

[tarcone]

I was not looking forward to coming on here if Iowa had lost. I was going to do it to take my beating. But that win makes it even sweeter.

[sovereignstar]

I just hope Iowa is undefeated up until the last weekend, so an extremely shitty Minnesota Gophers team can pull off the upset in November!

[hoopsguy]

Hate on Florida. They are barely winning again.

Coming from the #1 supporter of a team with four wins by <= 3 points, this is pretty ironic.

[tarcone]

Bingo. Iowa lost those games last season. This season, 8-0.

[Lathum]

Iowa would be a .500 team in any other BCS conference.

[Eaglesfan27]

Allen Bradford with a 43 yard TD run.

USC's defense has looked bad tonight (give Riley, Canfield, and the Rodgers credit for that), but USC's offense is looking good. It's great to have Ronald Johnson back. Barkley has showed that he is very capable of escaping pressure and making plays happen.

[tarcone]

As a wise man said:


But most teams that eventually win titles have a game like that -- at least nailbitingly closer than it should have been against a lesser opponent -- on their final resume. That's one of the differences between the highest echelon & the next tier, they win those games that other teams lose.

[tarcone]

Iowa would be a .500 team in any other BCS conference.

This has to be the absolutle funniest post I have ever read. Thank you for your comedic genius.

Oh yeah, Iowa is 8-0. Your team?

[Lathum]

Oh yeah, Iowa is 8-0. Your team?

Our best win is USC, yours?

[tarcone]

Our best win is USC, yours?

LOL.

So their only win this season is against USC. Wow the PAC 10 is strong.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Michigan scored in the 30's vs Iowa with 5 turnovers on the road at night. Not that impressive.

Michigan is coached by the greatest football mind to ever grace the gridiron. A true genius. Bow to the awesomeness that is RichRod, mortal!

[tarcone]

Our best win is USC, yours?

Our worst loss was against.....oh wait, we havent lost. Yours?

[I. J. Reilly]

Allen Bradford with a 43 yard TD run.

USC's defense has looked bad tonight (give Riley, Canfield, and the Rodgers credit for that), but USC's offense is looking good. It's great to have Ronald Johnson back. Barkley has showed that he is very capable of escaping pressure and making plays happen.

As a Beaver this game is killing me, we get close and then one of the fifty or so play makers you have on offense blows up on us. I'm proud of the Beavs though, they keep trying to come back.

[Lathum]

LOL.

So their only win this season is against USC. Wow the PAC 10 is strong.

Actually we beat the same Arizona team you did.

I'm just fucking with you but in all seriousness, if Iowa had played UW's schedule this year they are .500.

Iowa's schedule is a total joke. There are probably 20 teams that are 8-0 with that schedule.

Enjoy the win by all means, enjoy the 8-0, but don't kid yourself into thinking they could compete with the top teams in the country.

[Lathum]

Iowa is this years Ohio State, they will go to the Rose bowl and lose by 35 to USC.

[Eaglesfan27]

LOL.

So their only win this season is against USC. Wow the PAC 10 is strong.

USC would easily beat Iowa. Their offense finally has almost everyone healthy and they are racking up the points and the yards. Their special teams are coming around too - as Damian Williams just had another great punt return for a TD. :)

[tarcone]

Actually we beat the same Arizona team you did.

I'm just fucking with you but in all seriousness, if Iowa had played UW's schedule this year they are .500.

Iowa's schedule is a total joke. There are probably 20 teams that are 8-0 with that schedule.

Enjoy the win by all means, enjoy the 8-0, but don't kid yourself into thinking they could compete with the top teams in the country.

Its coming. You underestimate Iowa. The schedule is what it is. Texas schedule is no stronger. A banged up OU team is its highlight win.

Right now our offense is weak, and I fully admit that. But it does just enough to win.

I am playing with you also. I enjoy the banter.

[Eaglesfan27]

As a Beaver this game is killing me, we get close and then one of the fifty or so play makers you have on offense blows up on us. I'm proud of the Beavs though, they keep trying to come back.

Your team keeps fighting hard and Mike Riley is a brilliant coach. When Pete eventually retires, I'd love Riley to come coach at USC. Canfield is playing great and I think Oregon State wins at least 8 games this year.

[EagleFan]

Hate on Florida. They are barely winning again.

... and they've got the refs handing them touchdowns that shouldn't be. Defender doing "the Leon Lett" gets the ball knocked out before it crosses the line but touchdown awarded (even after replay, though you can put it together by the three angles to see when the ball comes out, the position is arm was in at the time the ball came out and where he was when his arm was in that position - his front foot had just crossed the line but he had the ball behind him when it was stripped).

[tarcone]

USC would easily beat Iowa. Their offense finally has almost everyone healthy and they are racking up the points and the yards. Their special teams are coming around too - as Damian Williams just had another great punt return for a TD. :)

The United States would easily be on Mars if they had spent the billions of dollars to get there.

You cannot say that USC would easily beat Iowa. Washington beat USC for goodness sakes.

[Eaglesfan27]

The United States would easily be on Mars if they had spent the billions of dollars to get there.

You cannot say that USC would easily beat Iowa. Washington beat USC for goodness sakes.

Washington beat them when they were without their starting QB (who is still undefeated including impressive road wins at ND and Ohio State, two very hostile environments) and their best defender (not to mention they were missing their #2 WR and a few other significant contributors.) They also had a bunch of turnovers.

[MizzouRah]

How many more times does Gabbert have to twist that fcking ankle, coach?

Doesn't matter, Texas beat our asses.. but damn.. what does getting him hurt even more do for the rest of the season?

Shipley is going to be a great Pro WR - at least I hope, he's fun to watch.

[tarcone]

Washington beat them when they were without their starting QB (who is still undefeated including impressive road wins at ND and Ohio State, two very hostile environments) and their best defender. They also had a bunch of turnovers.


Iowa has played this season with a banged up offensive line and 2 freshmen RBs, who were forced to play after there starter went down in preseason. But we are 8-0.

[Matthean]

The United States would easily be on Mars if they had spent the billions of dollars to get there.

You cannot say that USC would easily beat Iowa. Washington beat USC for goodness sakes.

And USC is known for token brain farts against lesser teams. Their record in the Rose Bowl recently, however, is really good.
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[tarcone]

How many more times does Gabbert have to twist that fcking ankle, coach?

Doesn't matter, Texas beat our asses.. but damn.. what does getting him hurt even more do for the rest of the season?

Shipley is going to be a great Pro WR - at least I hope, he's fun to watch.

Its really too bad about that ankle. Mizzou would be a much better team otherwise.

[tarcone]

And USC is known for token brain farts against lesser teams. Their record in the Rose Bowl recently, however, is really good.
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Too bad USC wont be going to the Rose Bowl this year.

[Eaglesfan27]

Iowa has played this season with a banged up offensive line and 2 freshmen RBs, who were forced to play after there starter went down in preseason. But we are 8-0.

And they looked very impressive with the 45 yards of passing in the first 3 1/2 quarters. Truly a giant of football.

[tarcone]

And they looked very impressive with the 45 yards of passing in the first 3 1/2 quarters. Truly a giant of football.

Stanzi is a QB that isnt supposed to make mistakes and the ball off.

But he did have 60 yards of passing with 1:36 left in the game including a 7 yarder for a TD on 4th down with 2 seconds left in the game to get Iowa to 8-0. Truly, a giant clutch performance.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

Everyone should fear Iowa's 79th ranked offense.

[Buccaneer]

tarcone, will you STFU? What makes fans of the mid-country states (Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas) such immature dicks?

[JonInMiddleGA]

tarcone, will you STFU? What makes fans of the mid-country states (Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas) such immature dicks?

You know that phrase about "act like you've been there before"?

Most of them haven't.

[tarcone]

How am I being immature? I am answering all calls that Iowa is bad.
There is no way to say Iowa would be 500 or would lose to USC or anything else. And I have stated Iowa has a weak offense.

And you are the one telling another person to STFU. How mature are you?

[MizzouRah]

tarcone, will you STFU? What makes fans of the mid-country states (Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas) such immature dicks?

Who the fck are you talking about? Don't paint such a broad stroke or you can STFU!

[tarcone]

You know that phrase about "act like you've been there before"?

Most of them haven't.

You are correct. This is the 1st time in the history of Iowa football that we are 8-0. We have never been here before.

[Buccaneer]

MizzouRah, except you of course. My bad.

[Neuqua]

Reading the last page and a half of this thread is now making sense out of the other weird religious thread he posted a little while back.

[Eaglesfan27]

Your team keeps fighting hard and Mike Riley is a brilliant coach. When Pete eventually retires, I'd love Riley to come coach at USC. Canfield is playing great and I think Oregon State wins at least 8 games this year.

And Jacquizz Rodgers is the truth.

[tarcone]

I wish Oregon State-USC was on TV in the midwest. Update?

[Swaggs]

BTW, Iowa's defense was #22 in total defense (giving up 294.7 yards per game) and they gave up 310 tonight. They were #16 in points allowed per game (15.0 PPG) and gave up 12 tonight.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&div=IA&site=org

[MizzouRah]

MizzouRah, except you of course. My bad.

I am one grump tonight..

Mizzou, Blues get smoked, and then I have the Rams vs Indy.. :banghead:

[Celeval]

All that said, I'm interested to see if Iowa stays at #6, or if they're jumped by TCU after their more impressive win.

[sovereignstar]

BTW, Iowa's defense was #22 in total defense (giving up 294.7 yards per game) and they gave up 310 tonight. They were #16 in points allowed per game (15.0 PPG) and gave up 12 tonight.

http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2009&div=IA&site=org

Tarcone: Science and Facts Need Not Apply

[tarcone]

All that said, I'm interested to see if Iowa stays at #6, or if they're jumped by TCU after their more impressive win.

Then I would think Cinci, Boise and Texas would get closer to Alabama and Florida after their less then spectaculer wins.

[Swaggs]

Then I would think Cinci, Boise and Texas would get closer to Alabama and Florida after their less then spectaculer wins.

I think it is possible that Texas will move up tomorrow. The SEC wonder twins were both less than impressive against sub-.500 teams, while Texas won in convincing fashion. I'd like to see Cincy get some love for hammering a team that they should hammer without their starting QB (something Oklahoma, USC, and others have not been able to do), but I'm guessing they will not. Boise hasn't won yet.

[tarcone]

Iowa is #1 in passes intercepted, #5 in pass efficiency defense, #2 in turnovers gained, #10 in 1st downs allowed.

There are some facts and science.

[tarcone]

#4 in turnover margin. more facts and science.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

The Big Ten haters can flap their gums all they want... That was a damn good game.

[Swaggs]

The Big Ten haters can flap their gums all they want... That was a damn good game.

It was a good final 3-minutes. ;)

[tarcone]

It was a good final 3-minutes. ;)


Great final 3 minutes.

[tarcone]

Oregon-USC will be a good one.

[Radii]

So if a team blocks two FGs to help win a game against an inferior opponent, does it make that team unworthy of their lofty ranking?

Just asking


I'm replying without reading the rest of the responses, but are you really comparing Alabama escaping w/ a win against Tennessee to Iowa needing to block two field goals to beat Northern Iowa????

[Celeval]

Then I would think Cinci, Boise and Texas would get closer to Alabama and Florida after their less then spectaculer wins.

In general, yes. Although jumping into the #1 or #2 is a tougher nut to crack than jumping into #6. The only guaranteed movement up top is Miami falling out of the top ten... that'll probably put GT in at #10 in the AP, and Penn State in the Coaches'. I expect Texas to pick up a few 1st places in the Coaches', and probably pass Alabama. In the AP the gap will shrink, but not enough, I think, to raise UT into #2.

From the computer's point of view, I think TCU will move up to #6.

[MizzouRah]

TCU does look damn impressive.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Great final 3 minutes.

And there is nothing wrong with playing defense. Not every game need be 47-45.

[Balldog]

Michigan scored in the 30's vs Iowa with 5 turnovers on the road at night. Not that impressive.

Michigan lost 28-30???? with a defensive touchdown???? Where do you get in the 30's?

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. I saw this story a day or two ago and thought it was fake, but the LA Times has posted it now and confirmed that it was real. I saw the twitters and they was quite derogatory to Norm Chow. Apparently, Randall Carroll is unhappy with his genius Offensive coordinator among other things and it sounds like there is a lot of turmoil in UCLA's locker room:

Tweet from UCLA player's account uses racial epithet for Norm Chow -- latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-ucla-carroll-chow25-2009oct25,0,2234103.story)

Edit: With this type of attitude, it makes me glad USC didn't get him.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

tarcone, will you STFU? What makes fans of the mid-country states (Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas) such immature dicks?

Given that post, you have little room to talk about maturity. It's a message board discussion. Relax.

[Mike1409]

... and they've got the refs handing them touchdowns that shouldn't be. Defender doing "the Leon Lett" gets the ball knocked out before it crosses the line but touchdown awarded (even after replay, though you can put it together by the three angles to see when the ball comes out, the position is arm was in at the time the ball came out and where he was when his arm was in that position - his front foot had just crossed the line but he had the ball behind him when it was stripped).

I think it was a fumble too, but why in the hell aren't there cameras lined up on each end zone?

[digamma]

Honest question...if Taylor Mays plays in the NFL does he get fined for the unpenalized hit on Rodgers in the end zone? Certainly looked like a missed unnecessary roughness call (clothesline). Curious for others' opinions.

[Eaglesfan27]

I believe he would be fined if he was in the NFL. I think the calling out of the Pac-10 officials and putting a spotlight on them about the balance of calls against USC this year (and the past few years) helped the team this week. I think this is the first time in a long time that I can say that the refs missed more calls against USC than against the opposition. However, the missed call against Oregon State early in the game where a defender led with his helmet and crushed Barkley was a bad one - should have been a personal foul.

[BishopMVP]

Amazing comeback by Florida State Christian Ponder may be the best QB in America but no one knows because our team sucks.Jimmy Clau...just kidding, Andy Dalton says hi.OU looking to pull an upset in Lawrence. Up 7-0 and just picked off a Reesing pass to get possession again.Haha, the upset :D. It was a joke Kansas stayed ranked after losing to Colorado.As a wise man said: Quote:
Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA http://operationsports.com/fofc/images/styles/yellow/buttons//viewpost.gif (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?p=2152181#post2152181)
But most teams that eventually win titles have a game like that -- at least nailbitingly closer than it should have been against a lesser opponent -- on their final resume. That's one of the differences between the highest echelon & the next tier, they win those games that other teams lose.
Except normally it's a game or two balanced out with a number of easier wins. For example, Alabama this year.Too bad USC wont be going to the Rose Bowl this year.Oregon's beating them next week? It's possible, but I'd say USC's the favorite there.How am I being immature? I am answering all calls that Iowa is bad.No one (was) saying Iowa is bad. We're saying they're not great. They're a solid team who would put up a nice clash of styles in the Capital One Bowl against SEC #3, but they're not on the level of the national contendors, or even playing as well as the other pretenders (TCU, Cincinnati, numerous 1-loss teams).


UMass got smoked, but thanks to another late win in South Bend, all is right with the catholic football hierarchy again. Should finally get a breather next week against WSU.

[Noop]

Uh, no.

If Florida State's record was 6-1 versus 3-4 he would be mentioned for the Heisman right now. Who is better?

[Buccaneer]

Why was Alabama's close win over Tennessee deemed to be worse than Florida's ugly win over Miss. State (in relation to the AP poll)?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Why was Alabama's close win over Tennessee deemed to be worse than Florida's ugly win over Miss. State (in relation to the AP poll)?

Off hand I'd say that's a combination of (in no particular order):
1) Florida beat UT worse than Bama did.
2) Florida beat Miss St by more than Bama beat UT
3) Miss St is probably better than UT even at this point
4) Bama didn't score a TD while Florida didn't allow an offensive TD

[Eaglesfan27]

While it goes along with 2, I'd also add that in Alabama's game they were much closer to defeat. If they miss blocking either FG, they probably lose that game.

[Karlifornia]

Stanford hands ASU's ass to them. They may beat USC, but I don't think they can stop Oregon. They may be able to win in a shootout. Andrew Luck is one of the best QB's in the country, and Toby Gerhart needs to come back for his senior season....it's in his best interests.....really...please don't go....I'm begging you, Toby.

[Eaglesfan27]

ESPN is reporting that Sam Bradford will announce at a press conference tomorrow that he is entering the draft.

Edit: He's already announced, but will have a press conference tomorrow to discuss it more apparently.

[Karlifornia]

ESPN is reporting that Sam Bradford will announce at a press conference tomorrow that he is entering the draft.

Edit: He's already announced, but will have a press conference tomorrow to discuss it more apparently.

This seems like it will have a bad ending. It's unfortunate that injuries exist, and can derail the best laid plans. I hope that he's at least getting his diploma, because star quarterbacks usually don't bother with much else besides being star quarterbacks.

[Lathum]

This seems like it will have a bad ending. It's unfortunate that injuries exist, and can derail the best laid plans. I hope that he's at least getting his diploma, because star quarterbacks usually don't bother with much else besides being star quarterbacks.

How do you define a bad ending?

[Eaglesfan27]

How do you define a bad ending?

Well, I think he cost himself 20-30 million as he was a top 10 pick last year and possibly the top pick. Now, with the injury questions from this season, I bet he goes very low in the 1st round or later. If he came back, he could have at least had a chance to show that he isn't injury prone not to mention put some more impressive stats up to wow scouts/NFL personnel. Of course, he could get hurt if he came back next year and cost himself even further. Tough choice.

[digamma]

ESPN is reporting that Sam Bradford will announce at a press conference tomorrow that he is entering the draft.

Edit: He's already announced, but will have a press conference tomorrow to discuss it more apparently.

Apparently, he is leaving some wiggle room to evaluate his draft status post season and change his mind.

[Karlifornia]

How do you define a bad ending?

This announcement reeks of panic and desperation. It's like a car breaking down during the test drive, and the salesman still trying to cut the deal. "I'll throw in the rustproofing for free! This sound system really kicks!"

[duckman]

Well, I think he cost himself 20-30 million as he was a top 10 pick last year and possibly the top pick. Now, with the injury questions from this season, I bet he goes very low in the 1st round or later. If he came back, he could have at least had a chance to show that he isn't injury prone not to mention put some more impressive stats up to wow scouts/NFL personnel. Of course, he could get hurt if he came back next year and cost himself even further. Tough choice.
Mel still has Bradford as the 5th best player coming out next year.

[tarcone]

Iowa jumps to #4 in the BCS standings. A loss by Texas is a must.

[Eaglesfan27]

Mel still has Bradford as the 5th best player coming out next year.

Mel isn't the GM who has to decide if he should risk a 1st rounder on a franchise QB who may be injury prone. I think that if he comes out this year, he drops to at least the bottom third of the 1st round.

[Eaglesfan27]

Iowa jumps to #4 in the BCS standings. A loss by Texas is a must.

USC is going to get more love from the computers if they beat Oregon this weekend. I wouldn't be surprised to see them jump Iowa in the future.

[Lathum]

yeah, but correct me if I am wrong but isn't the draft after this one when the CBA expires and you can bet rookie salaries will be nerfed. He is probably better off taking his chances this year if thats the case.

[duckman]

Mel isn't the GM who has to decide if he should risk a 1st rounder on a franchise QB who may be injury prone. I think that if he comes out this year, he drops to at least the bottom third of the 1st round.
I think he goes in the Top 10 even after the shoulder surgery since the surgery is minor and heals very well. He is still BY FAR the best prospect on the board going into the draft.

[Eaglesfan27]

I think he goes in the Top 10 even after the shoulder surgery since the surgery is minor and heals very well. He is still BY FAR the best prospect on the board going into the draft.

I think that will change if Locker and Clausen enter the draft, which I think is likely given the CBA status.

[tarcone]

USC is going to get more love from the computers if they beat Oregon this weekend. I wouldn't be surprised to see them jump Iowa in the future.

Yeah that might happen. But if Iowa beat Ohio State in Columbus you may see a jump back.

This thing is far from over for sure.

[Lathum]

I think that will change if Locker and Clausen enter the draft, which I think is likely given the CBA status.

As sad as I am to say it I think Locker goes. Teams will be salivating over him, prototype size, speed and a model guy. I think most of the country doesn't know about him because he plays for a bad team on the west coast, but the guy will be amazing on Sundays.