Pizza Delivery Charge question

[rowech]

Does anyone know whether this goes to the driver, the company, or a combination of both? I've been working with the assumption it goes to the driver but more and more, it seems drivers are pretty pissed when I only give them an extra dollar or so.

[Bearcat729]

Where I worked it was an additional charge made by the company to cover insurance and other things that the company has to have to deliver. The driver only got about 75 cents of it, and every time the delivery charge went up we got pissed because it ended up costing us more than that in tips.

[Karlifornia]

If you can't throw 3 to 5 bucks to the person who may very well be handling your food from preparation to consumption, then your financial situation may dictate a need to stick with Ramen noodles.

[rowech]

If you can't throw 3 to 5 bucks to the person who may very well be handling your food from preparation to consumption, then your financial situation may dictate a need to stick with Ramen noodles.

I am throwing $3.50-4.00 to them. $2.50 for the charge and another 1-1.50 for the extra tip. This is why I'm asking.

[sabotai]

I can only answer for the one place my friend worked at, but all of the delivery charge went to the company. I would be surprised if that wasn't standard. I always assumed it was.

[ISiddiqui]

Huh... no reason for the guy to get pissed over that, IMO.

[Karlifornia]

I am throwing $3.50-4.00 to them. $2.50 for the charge and another 1-1.50 for the extra tip. This is why I'm asking.

If you're concerned, just call and ask the manager on duty. They don't have caller ID, so that should eschew any embarrassment. Better yet...give me the number to the place, and I'll call and ask for you.

[Karlifornia]

Dola,

$2.50 delivery charge is pretty bad. I'd consider ordering from another place.

[Abe Sargent]

If you can't throw 3 to 5 bucks to the person who may very well be handling your food from preparation to consumption, then your financial situation may dictate a need to stick with Ramen noodles.

heh

[Abe Sargent]

Dola,

$2.50 delivery charge is pretty bad. I'd consider ordering from another place.

There are Detroit places that charge $4.

[ISiddiqui]

Btw, this is why I always go an pick up my pizza orders (or Chinese for that matter).

[SackAttack]

Btw, this is why I always go an pick up my pizza orders (or Chinese for that matter).

I've been shifting more that way as well when the weather is nice. I haven't changed my tipping practices any, but I do try to avoid the delivery surcharge where I can.

[Karlifornia]

There are Detroit places that charge $4.

Sounds like they assume the worst from their customers. The place I'm at was free until last year...we charge $1.50. That's in one of the most expensive places to live in the country. I imagine it's assumed that people are able to take care of people who are serving them. Maybe in Detroit it's more "we don't know what you have, so we're just gonna demand it up front". Driver gets $1.50 per box carried out on every order for reimbursement. Minimum order is one small pizza. That's a box, so that's a guaranteed $1.50. People that stiff you because of the charge are considered cheapskates, and mocked thoroughly by all staff. Sometimes they are brought a job application, inferring that most likely need the extra income.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sometimes they are brought a job application, inferring that most likely need the extra income.

Try that around here & I'd say there's a pretty good chance that you end up needing police & an ambulance for the driver. At best the little sumbitch would end up needing surgery to remove my foot up to my knee from his ass as I kicked him all the way back to his Chevette. And my reaction is pretty mild compared to what they'd get in some other neighborhoods, I can quite literally see someone getting shot for a stunt like that.

Maybe it's just a different deal in a different area but pretty much the only delivery charges I ever run across being tacked on here are from a couple of pretentious places that probably ought not be in the delivery racket in the first place as they're normally used mostly to discourage delivery.

[terpkristin]

Hmm. Every place I can think of around here has a delivery charge. I too endorse going and picking it up (even better, ordering on the way home so can pick it up without making a special trip), but more often than not lately, I've only ordered food from this kind of place when I'm too buzzed to be driving...or doing math well in my head.

/tk

[Karlifornia]

Try that around here & I'd say there's a pretty good chance that you end up needing police & an ambulance for the driver. At best the little sumbitch would end up needing surgery to remove my foot up to my knee from his ass as I kicked him all the way back to his Chevette.

Maybe it's just a different deal in a different area but pretty much the only delivery charges I ever run across being tacked on here are from a couple of pretentious places that probably ought not be in the delivery racket in the first place as they're normally used mostly to discourage delivery.

I was only kidding. Anyone who actually did that would be promptly fired.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Anyone who actually did that would be promptly fired.

And/or fired upon.

[Karlifornia]

And/or fired upon.

JIMGA's Staten Island dwelling cousin gets a pizza delivered:


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[Passacaglia]

Try that around here & I'd say there's a pretty good chance that you end up needing police & an ambulance for the driver. At best the little sumbitch would end up needing surgery to remove my foot up to my knee from his ass as I kicked him all the way back to his Chevette. And my reaction is pretty mild compared to what they'd get in some other neighborhoods, I can quite literally see someone getting shot for a stunt like that.

Maybe it's just a different deal in a different area but pretty much the only delivery charges I ever run across being tacked on here are from a couple of pretentious places that probably ought not be in the delivery racket in the first place as they're normally used mostly to discourage delivery.

Ah, the internet.

[Recoil]

To answer your question, no, it does not go to the delivery driver. The link below explains much better than I can.

hxxp://tipthepizzaguy.com/objections/delcharge.htm

[Vince, Pt. II]

I've worked at four different places that do deliveries (not all Pizza), and at every single one the delivery charge is NOT given to the driver, but kept by the company to cover expenses.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ah, the internet.

{shrug} Just being honest. I can't imagine not physically removing someone from my front porch for that sort of stunt. And while the exact amount of how much of my foot & leg might lodge in an uncomfortable spot might be a bit of colorful hyperbole, if you think I've have the slightest reluctant to literall kick the guy in his ass while I'm chasing him to his car with bad intentions then you're pretty out of touch with who I am.

And there are already neighborhoods here where delivery people won't go for fear of unprovoked violence, so I also don't see any stretch in thinking that someone could get themselves shot for something like that, they've damned sure been gotten shot for a lot less already.

[rowech]

Sounds like I definitely screwed the guy on the tip. I guess my beef is more with the pizza places. If they put the delivery charge into their price then their drivers would get better tips but they won't do that because then they lose out on advertisement because their pizzas will always end up being more expensive. Sounds like we might be out of the ordering pizza business.

[Matthean]

Talked to my roommate and he said back when he did it the tip was expected to be $2 for in town and $3 for out of town(think small town Americana). If you tossed a tip under $2 his way he said the food would have been defiled, or the money simply tossed back at you. He then goes on to tell stories of what even his boss would "accidentally" do to food from people who were known to give bad tips.

I might have gotten pizza delivered once, but I just prefer to pick it up myself. My parents always tipped the driver $5. If you figure the cost of driving for them(gas/maintenance) it adds up quickly.
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[Karlifornia]

Sounds like I definitely screwed the guy on the tip. I guess my beef is more with the pizza places. If they put the delivery charge into their price then their drivers would get better tips but they won't do that because then they lose out on advertisement because their pizzas will always end up being more expensive. Sounds like we might be out of the ordering pizza business.

You got kids? You won't be out of the ordering pizza business.

THEY ALWAYS COME BACK! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[Philliesfan980]

Just get off your ass and pick up the pizza yourself. It's not that bad, and you'll more likely than not have a better product (hotter) in the end. I understand there are some circumstances where you can't pick up the pizza, but for most of us, we can.

At the same time, the delivery charge definitely screws the delivery guy/girl in the end. Let's say I'm getting a $10 pizza, and then they throw $2 on top of that, and then an expected $3 to the driver, so I'm paying $15 for a $10 product? I'm so cheap that I'd rather just drive there myself and get 2 pizza's for $20.

And yes, I was a waiter all through college. To those of you (in general, not anyone on this board), who screw with people's food, you really have no class, and I hope you burn in hell. I can't count the number of times I got a $2 on a $60 from some WT piece of crap, but you still don't mess with the guys food. Just think how much worse their life is than yours.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Talked to my roommate and he said back when he did it the tip was expected to be $2 for in town and $3 for out of town(think small town Americana). If you tossed a tip under $2 his way he said the food would have been defiled, or the money simply tossed back at you. He then goes on to tell stories of what even his boss would "accidentally" do to food from people who were known to give bad tips.

I might have gotten pizza delivered once, but I just prefer to pick it up myself. My parents always tipped the driver $5. If you figure the cost of driving for them(gas/maintenance) it adds up quickly.
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The problem with food defiling, aside from the fact that it gains you absolutely nothing but personal satisfaction and a chance at losing your job, is that it has to be done before you get the tip. Unless you want to screw with the person's food in front of them. Plus, nine times out of ten (unless you go way crazy with the messing with someone part) they aren't even going to realize you messed with their food.

[Karlifornia]

Just get off your ass and pick up the pizza yourself. It's not that bad, and you'll more likely than not have a better product (hotter) in the end. I understand there are some circumstances where you can't pick up the pizza, but for most of us, we can.

At the same time, the delivery charge definitely screws the delivery guy/girl in the end. Let's say I'm getting a $10 pizza, and then they throw $2 on top of that, and then an expected $3 to the driver, so I'm paying $15 for a $10 product? I'm so cheap that I'd rather just drive there myself and get 2 pizza's for $20.

And yes, I was a waiter all through college, and to those of you (in general, not anyone on this board), who screw with peoples food, you really have no class, and I hope you burn in hell. I can't count the number of times I got a $2 on a $60 from some WT piece of crap, but you still don't mess with the guys food. Just think how much worse their life is than yours.


In all my years working in food service I have never seen anyone ever do something to anyone's food.

[Vince, Pt. II]

In all my years working in food service I have never seen anyone ever do something to anyone's food.

Ditto. 1999-2008 for me, and including my one all-purpose delivery job, that's about 35 different restaurants.

Although this doesn't include the time we messed with a co-worker's food because he ordered delivery for himself during one of our busy times. Just as a note - a layer of crushed red pepper that completely covers the sauce of the pizza, obscuring it from view, is not really all that noticeable with melted cheese and toppings over it.

[Philliesfan980]

In all my years working in food service I have never seen anyone ever do something to anyone's food.

I worked at a chain type restaurant in college (think Applebees, Chili's, Ruby Tuesday's etc) and I've only seen it happen twice in 5 years. Normally the people who do that sort of stuff don't really make it anyway.

I think if you work in the food service business where you depend on tips, you just need to chalk it up that a certain percentage of your client base just isn't going to tip you well. The sooner you accept that, the less stressful and aggravating your life will be.

[rowech]

You got kids? You won't be out of the ordering pizza business.

THEY ALWAYS COME BACK! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

No kids.

[Karlifornia]

No kids.

:(

[rowech]

:(

Not for not trying. My wife and I have been going through tests galore. We had tried for almost two years when she got pregnant two summers ago. She had a miscarriage about eight weeks in. We've now tried for another two years with no luck. We've now run the tests and found that there's nothing really wrong with me, nor her. The only thing they can find is my wife has a huge amount of antibodies which they believe is working like Lupus even though they don't believe she actually has Lupus since she's never had any of the symptoms. However, they have no other reason to suspect anything else except for that which could making things difficult, if not impossible.

[Lathum]

In all my years working in food service I have never seen anyone ever do something to anyone's food.

12 Years with Fridays and never saw it once.

The problem with food defiling, aside from the fact that it gains you absolutely nothing but personal satisfaction and a chance at losing your job, is that it has to be done before you get the tip. Unless you want to screw with the person's food in front of them. Plus, nine times out of ten (unless you go way crazy with the messing with someone part) they aren't even going to realize you messed with their food.

I delivered pizzas when I was 18 for pizza hut. They had the whole system computerized and you could add notes. You better believe it that if someone didn't tip, was a poor tipper there was a note about it. Now I never saw anyone mess with food, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone knew they were getting stiffed if they did, and they ceretainly wouldn't rust the order. sometimes you were doing 2-3 deliveries at once, who do you think gets their pizza hot? I wouldn't be surprised if Rowech has a similar notation.

Now we order pizza twice a month, always the same place. We tip well and we always get it quick, always hot, always correct, the drivers know our dogs name and some even bring treats for him.

[Lathum]

Did you ask for extra anchovies? :)

I like the reference.

violator! violator!

[Lathum]

Not for not trying. My wife and I have been going through tests galore. We had tried for almost two years when she got pregnant two summers ago. She had a miscarriage about eight weeks in. We've now tried for another two years with no luck. We've now run the tests and found that there's nothing really wrong with me, nor her. The only thing they can find is my wife has a huge amount of antibodies which they believe is working like Lupus even though they don't believe she actually has Lupus since she's never had any of the symptoms. However, they have no other reason to suspect anything else except for that which could making things difficult, if not impossible.

well this thread got serious. :(

if you ever want to talk about adoption lemme know.

[Eaglesfan27]

Not for not trying. My wife and I have been going through tests galore. We had tried for almost two years when she got pregnant two summers ago. She had a miscarriage about eight weeks in. We've now tried for another two years with no luck. We've now run the tests and found that there's nothing really wrong with me, nor her. The only thing they can find is my wife has a huge amount of antibodies which they believe is working like Lupus even though they don't believe she actually has Lupus since she's never had any of the symptoms. However, they have no other reason to suspect anything else except for that which could making things difficult, if not impossible.

well this thread got serious. :(

if you ever want to talk about adoption lemme know.

My wife and I are/have been going through similar issues and also had a miscarriage. If you ever want to talk, drop me a PM. We are also considering adoption as an option.

[rowech]

well this thread got serious. :(

if you ever want to talk about adoption lemme know.

Yeah...sorry about that. Just kinda typed it out without thinking about it too much. I guess I hijacked my own thread.

[JeeberD]

12 Years with Fridays and never saw it once.


9 years in full service (and about 15 years total) food service and never, ever seen anything happen to anyone's food...


Also, to reiterate what others have already said, about a year ago I talked to a former Pizza Hut manager who was training for OG management and I asked him specifically about this. He said that none of it went to the driver, so I make sure to always tip well...

[RainMaker]

$2.50 is the standard charge here in Chicago. I still tip at least $2 and up to $5 depending on the weather for a pizza.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I delivered pizzas when I was 18 for pizza hut. They had the whole system computerized and you could add notes. You better believe it that if someone didn't tip, was a poor tipper there was a note about it. Now I never saw anyone mess with food, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone knew they were getting stiffed if they did, and they ceretainly wouldn't rust the order. sometimes you were doing 2-3 deliveries at once, who do you think gets their pizza hot? I wouldn't be surprised if Rowech has a similar notation.

Now we order pizza twice a month, always the same place. We tip well and we always get it quick, always hot, always correct, the drivers know our dogs name and some even bring treats for him.

Yup, but what happens when the home owner/renter/typical orderer isn't there and the sister/brother/guest tips you really well? You just never know what's going to happen out there.

[stevew]

Never seen someone do anything deliberately bad to someone's food in 10 years or so in the buisiness. May have "spiced" up a few orders of hot wings beyond a normal level when they asked for Extra Hot, however. I mean, if you say "I want really hot wings" and I have some Dave's insanity sauce, you're getting a shot of it in there. I guess.

And with all the pickup pizza options right now for the $5-7 dollar range, who the fuck still gets deliveries. I'm all about pickup, you save a lot more than just the delivery charge.

[Logan]

Thank you competition, keeping NYC delivery charge free.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Never seen someone do anything deliberately bad to someone's food in 10 years or so in the buisiness. May have "spiced" up a few orders of hot wings beyond a normal level when they asked for Extra Hot, however. I mean, if you say "I want really hot wings" and I have some Dave's insanity sauce, you're getting a shot of it in there. I guess.

And with all the pickup pizza options right now for the $5-7 dollar range, who the fuck still gets deliveries. I'm all about pickup, you save a lot more than just the delivery charge.

Damn. Personally, I love Dave's Insanity Sauce...not sure that I'd be willing to put it in anything that I served to someone else though. That stuff is crazy.

[Kodos]

I always try to tip pretty well. I had a brief two-week stint as a waiter, and it was a horrible job. Or at least I was horrible at it.

[RomaGoth]

Not for not trying. My wife and I have been going through tests galore. We had tried for almost two years when she got pregnant two summers ago. She had a miscarriage about eight weeks in. We've now tried for another two years with no luck. We've now run the tests and found that there's nothing really wrong with me, nor her. The only thing they can find is my wife has a huge amount of antibodies which they believe is working like Lupus even though they don't believe she actually has Lupus since she's never had any of the symptoms. However, they have no other reason to suspect anything else except for that which could making things difficult, if not impossible.

Sounds like you guys are trying to hard. I know this sounds easier than it is, but if you stop thinking about having kids and just go about your business, you might have more luck. Once again, sounds easier than it is.

[Chubby]

If you can't throw 3 to 5 bucks to the person who may very well be handling your food from preparation to consumption, then your financial situation may dictate a need to stick with Ramen noodles.

I'm not tipping 50% for someone to bring a pizza to my door...

[Lathum]

Yup, but what happens when the home owner/renter/typical orderer isn't there and the sister/brother/guest tips you really well? You just never know what's going to happen out there.


I doubt that someone who would fuck with your food really has this level of rational thought.

I'm not tipping 50% for someone to bring a pizza to my door...

You're correct, you are tipping 50% for them to bring only a pizza to your door.

and a pizza only costs 6-10 dollars where you live? Must be nice. $23 here for a large pie with a couple of toppings.

[Chubby]

I doubt that someone who would fuck with your food really has this level of rational thought.



You're correct, you are tipping 50% for them to bring only a pizza to your door.

and a pizza only costs 6-10 dollars where you live? Must be nice. $23 here for a large pie with a couple of toppings.
Since I'm not tipping $5 on a $10 pie, no, i'm not. If I order a large with no coupons it'll run say $15 but if i'm doing that then I'll buy from the local pizza place and pick it up because I'd rather support them. If I want cheap and easy then I'l get the $9.99 large 1 topping from Pizza Hut to cure my pizza craving :) (unless it's a monday or tuesday when I'll get a $5.99 large cheese from Mark's Pizzeria)

[Passacaglia]

Sounds like you guys are trying to hard. I know this sounds easier than it is, but if you stop thinking about having kids and just go about your business, you might have more luck. Once again, sounds easier than it is.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there's more to it than that. Best of luck, rowech.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Must be nice. $23 here for a large pie with a couple of toppings.

I'm not sure you could find a $23 pizza in Athens. Now granted it's a college town & a lot of stuff is priced accordingly but even on the high end super sized & fully loaded I haven't seen anything break $20.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Even at the high-end places in Cambridge you rarely see anything over maybe $18 for a large.

[Lathum]

I'm not sure you could find a $23 pizza in Athens. Now granted it's a college town & a lot of stuff is priced accordingly but even on the high end super sized & fully loaded I haven't seen anything break $20.

Everything in Seattle is expensive.