NFL Playoff Round II Thread

[Thomkal]

Let's go Cards! I'm not sure if my heart can take another crazy game like last weeks though. :D

[Abe Sargent]

Well, Cards arent going to gt shut out

[Thomkal]

Holy Crap I didn't expect that. Another great start for the Cards in a playoff game.

[ColtCrazy]

Leaving for the Colts game soon. They should win, but the Ravens are always a tough out. I'm hoping I come home at 1 am happy.

[bhlloy]

So, new playoff scoring record in this game? :D

[MJ4H]

Serious question, here. On that catch by Shockey, he got hit and went down, but he was never touched while down. Is he down by NFL rule? God, I hate that rule. Can someone clarify why he was down on that play, or if he was? (2 plays before the touchdown)

[tucker rocky]

So, new playoff scoring record in this game? :D

97

50-47

:popcorn:

[Masked]

... he got hit and went down,...

That's a tackle - he caught the ball, and the defender knocked him down.

[Senator]

My speakers are picking up the ambient stadium announcer from the Saints. That has to be the most annoying and repetitive person I have ever heard. Has anyone gone to a Saints game before? Is this a normal thing? Usually, I don't even notice, but he sounds like a he is trying to be a Michael Buffer starter kit with all the words going outtttttttt likeeeeeeeee thissssss.

[henry296]

Serious question, here. On that catch by Shockey, he got hit and went down, but he was never touched while down. Is he down by NFL rule? God, I hate that rule. Can someone clarify why he was down on that play, or if he was? (2 plays before the touchdown)

I didn't see the play, but if the force of the contact makes him go down, then he is down.

[MJ4H]

That's a tackle - he caught the ball, and the defender knocked him down.

So he doesn't have to be touched while his knee is down? What exactly is the rule?

[tucker rocky]

How do 3 personal fouls offset?
Arz had 2, NO 1

[Thomkal]

well that wasn't a pleasant turn of events.

[Tigercat]

So if 11 players on one team beat the living crap out of 1 player for the other team, and that 1 player fights back, it is off setting personal foul penalties? Weird.

[tucker rocky]

How do 3 personal fouls offset?
Arz had 2, NO 1

Nevermind.

Looked it up, and found my answer.

[Tigercat]

Brees has all day back there right now.

[Tigercat]

Dola, this game is on pace for 150+ points.

[RedKingGold]

I just saw a punt. I feel cheated.

[Pumpy Tudors]

So he doesn't have to be touched while his knee is down? What exactly is the rule?
The rule is simple. If a defender forces the ball carrier to hit the ground, the ball carrier is down.

[MJ4H]

Fair enough. This is my first year of really watching the NFL semi-seriously.

[Abe Sargent]

Wow, hello Saints

[RedKingGold]

This is the best Reggie Bush has played as a pro. EF27 must be basking in it right now.

That was Barry Sanders-esque.

[MrDNA]

WOW. Some amazing plays so far in this thing. I hope the Cards score next to keep it competitive; no snoozers in this round, please!!

[Thomkal]

:::sighs::: horrible tackling again and their best CB out in an already shaky secondary. Not looking good for my Cards.

[Tigercat]

Bush has been awesome for weeks, it just kind of got lost since it was mostly during the losing streak.

[tucker rocky]

Arizona has decided to go with the same defensive gameplan against GB.

[Thomkal]

wow they dodged a bullet there

[Masked]

Wow, what a weak roughing the passer call.

[tucker rocky]

Arz going with the quick hits.

[tucker rocky]

Gregg Williams defense looking good.

[Tigercat]

Regardless of how weak that roughing the passer call might have been, I absolutely HATE how roughing the passer calls wipe out INTs. The pass is in the air, the action of the pass is in motion, the the result of that action can be wiped out by something that happens after the pass starts is odd to me.

[Tigercat]

Gregg Williams defense looking good.

It was very close from getting 4 straight stops, 2 of which by turnover. You can't give Warner a second chance at a drive in the playoffs.

[Masked]

Regardless of how weak that roughing the passer call might have been, I absolutely HATE how roughing the passer calls wipe out INTs. The pass is in the air, the action of the pass is in motion, the the result of that action can be wiped out by something that happens after the pass starts is odd to me.

Possession hasn't changed yet though.

[Tigercat]

Possession hasn't changed yet though.

Yes but the action is away from the possession change, and doesn't affect possession change. I understand why it is enforced like that, I just think it hinders the flow of the game more than it helps.

A QB can air mail it to a safety 50 yards down field, and be completely bailed out by something that happens after that mistake.

[Thomkal]

ugh Cards lose a second secondary guy

[Tigercat]

ugh Cards lose a second secondary guy

Who is the second? I missed the name.

[bhlloy]

I love this Saints team. I'm still not convinced they can beat a team with a real defense, but they are so much fun to watch.

I can't root for them against the Chargers but if they get to the Super Bowl and play anybody else it will be the most invested I've been in the game for a very long time.

[k0ruptr]

nice flea flicker.

6 tds in 22 minutes.

[kingfc22]

I love arena football.

[Hammer755]

I've not seen it mentioned, so I guess it's my local feed, but the quality of the picture on this game is terrible. It's not the TV because the commercials look fine.

[kingfc22]

I've not seen it mentioned, so I guess it's my local feed, but the quality of the picture on this game is terrible. It's not the TV because the commercials look fine.

FOX's feed is always worse than what a typical game on CBS or NBC will look like IMO.

[Thomkal]

sigh

[kingfc22]

Warner got blew up. Damn.

[Thomkal]

Who is the second? I missed the name.

Antrel Rolle, head injury

[Tigercat]

Shit, I hate to see that hit on Warner. That fucking sucks.

[Thomkal]

oh god now Warner is hurt, this is turning very ugly

[sabotai]

Warner tried to play defense and got destroyed.

[RedKingGold]

I think that may have been Kurt Warner's last play in the NFL.

[k0ruptr]

if Warner is out I'd say good nite Cards. Leinart isn't even half the QB that he is.

[kingfc22]

if Warner is out I'd say good nite Cards. Leinart isn't even half the QB that he is.

Well, if the Cards defense continues to give up TD's on 100% of the oppositions possessions it won't matter who is at QB.

[bhlloy]

Perfectly clean but that will be a rule change in the offseason. Something about how you can't hit a QB from the blind side on a change of possession anymore.

Seriously Warner just needs to GTF out of the way there. He's not going to tackle a 280lb lineman anyway, do the smart thing.

[sabotai]

Warner looks fine on the sideline now.

[Masked]

Perfectly clean but that will be a rule change in the offseason. Something about how you can't hit a QB from the blind side on a change of possession anymore.

Seriously Warner just needs to GTF out of the way there. He's not going to tackle a 280lb lineman anyway, do the smart thing.

Warner was the closest Cardinal to the ball carrier - you have to allow blocks on him.

[Tigercat]

Glad to see Warner is ok. Reggie Bush continues to play very well.

[k0ruptr]

Holding. Cards really need to hold em to a fg.

[Thomkal]

nice to see Leinart string some good throws together.

[Thomkal]

thanks Saints for the time out

[Tigercat]

Good job of Leinart getting the ball downfield for the FG. Helps when you have Fitz at WR, but good job regardless.

[StLee]

Some NFL playoff records on that last Saints TD:

Saints and Cardinals combined for most points (49) in the first half.

Cardinals have allowed most points (80) in two games.

[Thomkal]

sigh

[Ryan S]

Why not try for the endzone at the end of the half?

[jbergey22]

This game couldnt have followed trends any more closely.

Cards cant stop anyone on defense while the Saints are taking advantage of mistakes by the Cardinals offense.

Cards got away from the run way too fast. They must have forgotten the first play they had on offense.

[kingfc22]

And Rackers continues his awesome performance this post season.

[jbergey22]

Why not try for the endzone at the end of the half?

Leinhart sucks. They were likely just happy to be in field goal range.

[jbergey22]

Bush would be a great player if he could bring this intensity every week.

[MIJB#19]

It's probably going to be mentioned during tv coverage about 20 times per game in both the Cardinals-Saints and the Cowboys-Vikings games, but in case they broadcasters haven't noticed yet: if the Cardinals don't win today, it'll be guaranteed that there will be a different NFC Champion for the nineth season in a row.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I admit I'm being kind of silly here, but the last Saints possession made me think of something.

It's 4th and 3, and the Saints go up to try to draw Arizona offsides. The Cards don't jump, and the play clock runs out. The Cards decline the penalty so there's less field for the punter. OK, I get that. But why don't the Saints send Brees out to try to get them to jump again? It's still 4th and 3. The Saints would've had nothing to lose by trying it again.

I understand that it probably means nothing in a 35-14 game, but it would've been a savvy and hilarious move by Sean Payton.

[Tigercat]

I admit I'm being kind of silly here, but the last Saints possession made me think of something.

It's 4th and 3, and the Saints go up to try to draw Arizona offsides. The Cards don't jump, and the play clock runs out. The Cards decline the penalty so there's less field for the punter. OK, I get that. But why don't the Saints send Brees out to try to get them to jump again? It's still 4th and 3. The Saints would've had nothing to lose by trying it again.

I understand that it probably means nothing in a 35-14 game, but it would've been a savvy and hilarious move by Sean Payton.

Mediocre minds think alike Pumpy, I was wondering the same thing. Can a game go through declined penalties until the end of days?

[Pumpy Tudors]

Mediocre minds think alike Pumpy, I was wondering the same thing. Can a game go through declined penalties until the end of days?
I wonder that, too. I actually thought they had changed delay of game to a penalty that can't be declined for that very reason. I guess I had imagined that.

[Tigercat]

'zona's banged up secondary is doing a more than admirable job in the second half.

[Abe Sargent]

Wow

[Tigercat]

I would imagine the reason Warner is yelling on the sidelines right now is because the Cardinals coaches told him they want him out of the game.

[jbergey22]

Reggie Bush must want to stay in New Orleans after the season.

[Tigercat]

I would imagine the reason Warner is yelling on the sidelines right now is because the Cardinals coaches told him they want him out of the game.

If so, I bet they are glad they didn't take him out.

[jbergey22]

If so, I bet they are glad they didn't.

The announcers were talking about taking him out as well which I dont understand at all. What would they be saving him for?

Yes it appears over but people were probably saying that when the Bills came back on the Oilers quite a few years back as well.

[Tigercat]

The announcers were talking about taking him out as well which I dont understand at all. What would they be saving him for?

Yes it appears over but people were probably saying that when the Bills came back on the Oilers quite a few years back as well.

Well you consider it because 1) A player playing hurt is more likely to hurt himself worse, 2) Leinart looked OK in the 1st half, even if it was against a prevent D.

But if you suggest it to Warner and he yells your ear off like that, you send your leader and his energy back on the field.

[jbergey22]

So Tigercat who do you want at the dome next week?

[Tigercat]

So Tigercat who do you want at the dome next week?

Vikings. Saints pass block well on the edges mainly do to great schemes to hide Bushrod's limitations at LT. (As opposed to what may be the best interior line the NFL, they could block well in any scheme.) The talent of Ware and Spencer can bust up any good protection scheme if you don't have players that can man up on them.

Also, mobile QBs are the bane of the Saints D, Romo rolling out of the pocket killed the Saints early on.

[Tekneek]

Down by 31. 7:31 left. Why is punting a good idea?

[jbergey22]

Either way the Saints will have the coaching advantage. The Cowboys have a lot of weapos on offense but some of them are used sparingly.(Felix Jones in particular)

AP could give the Saints a lot of problems but the Saints offense will score frequently. Id imagine Saints/Vikings will score in the 60s while Saints/Cowboys score in the lower 40s.

[jbergey22]

Way to go out like losers Cards. Punting with 2 minutes left down 30+ points. Go for the first down if you fail they kneel down anyway.

[StLee]

As a Saints fan living abroad, this makes me feel as close to home since I last held Saints season tickets (2006, my last football season living in the States). Hopefully this is the year. If the Saints keep playing like they did today, then all of my Saints dreams will have come true.

[Thomkal]

well that was pretty ugly. Congrats to the Saints and their fans. And I have the feeling my beloved Cards will be looking for a new defensive coordinator in the offseason because that was two pathetic playoff defensive performances on their part.

Congrats to Kurt Warner if he decides to call it a career. Have to admit I had a lot of doubts when the Cards signed him and then played him over Leinart, but I can't imagine them making the playoffs the past two seasons without him.

[Tekneek]

If you're going to punt, while down 30+ points in the 4th quarter of a playoff game, you have little interest in trying to get back into the game. If so, why put the players through that? Just hit the showers.

[spleen1015]

I would take Brown or Hart over Addai any day. Addai is just terrible. That play Hart made on the sideline, Addai doesn't have that in him.

[bronconick]

Does the NFL not have neutral site clock operators? That 2nd down incompletion by Manning where he managed a 5 step drop, move and pump fake in 2 seconds was the longest seconds I've seen since TJ Duckett and the Spartans in 2001.

[Eaglesfan27]

Just arrived at home. The Superdome was rocking throughout the 1st quarter, particularly after that Reggie TD run in the 1st quarter (which looked like something out of a video game.) It exploded again in the 2nd quarter with that flea flicker and really maxed out with the Reggie punt return. Very happy to see Reggie have a great game. It made the whole experience a lot more fun.

[spleen1015]

Does the NFL not have neutral site clock operators? That 2nd down incompletion by Manning where he managed a 5 step drop, move and pump fake in 2 seconds was the longest seconds I've seen since TJ Duckett and the Spartans in 2001.

They added 2 seconds back to the clock before that play. The play started with 11 seconds on the clock not 9.

[Eaglesfan27]

This is the best Reggie Bush has played as a pro. EF27 must be basking in it right now.

That was Barry Sanders-esque.

I was.. the whole stadium was chanting "Reg-gie, Reg-gie, Reg-gie" over and over again and I was shouting as loud as anyone. I'm hoarse right now. :)

[Eaglesfan27]

nice to see Leinart string some good throws together.

Good job of Leinart getting the ball downfield for the FG. Helps when you have Fitz at WR, but good job regardless.

I was very happy to see Matt do reasonably well in his limited time in the game (well until the team was just beaten down in the 4th quarter.)

[Eaglesfan27]

I can't believe Reed fumbled that. Huge play by Garcon to knock that ball out and keep the momentum for Indy.

[RedKingGold]

Incredible play by Garcon.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I just about jumped out my seat with that play! (and i'm at work...)

[Doug5984]

Just got home from the Saints game...wow, besides that first play we played great today. The D showed up 19 seconds late.

[RedKingGold]

Ravens played like crap tonight.

[Tigercat]

Just got home from the Saints game...wow, besides that first play we played great today. The D showed up 19 seconds late.

Something that most NFL fans and many analysts miss is how good the Saints run D (when the D is healthy) gets as games go along. Casual viewers of Saints games see Ronnie Brown, or Turner, or whoever gash us early in games and think the Saints are VERY vulnerable to the run, and teams just give up on it. More often what has happened is teams gave up on the run after the Saints started to shut it down. If you take away the one 70 yard run, Arizona ran the ball 14 times for 31 yards with a long of 7 yards.

When Sed Ellis is in the lineup, the Saint's are amazingly stout against the run once the defense gets its act together. I think it has to do with Williams making adjustments to overcome our weakness on the DL. It takes a while in some games, but when he has a good DT in Ellis to work with, he gets it done eventually.

[Eaglesfan27]

Something that most NFL fans and many analysts miss is how good the Saints run D (when the D is healthy) gets as games go along. Casual viewers of Saints games see Ronnie Brown, or Turner, or whoever gash us early in games and think the Saints are VERY vulnerable to the run, and teams just give up on it. More often what has happened is teams gave up on the run after the Saints started to shut it down. If you take away the one 70 yard run, Arizona ran the ball 14 times for 31 yards with a long of 7 yards.

When Sed Ellis is in the lineup, the Saint's are amazingly stout against the run once the defense gets its act together. I think it has to do with Williams making adjustments to overcome our weakness on the DL. It takes a while in some games, but when he has a good DT in Ellis to work with, he gets it done eventually.

Yeah, for obvious reasons, I was focusing on Sedrick Ellis tonight and he played extremely well against the run and the pass. He was consistently pushing his man/men back and helping collapse the pocket.

[jbergey22]

Something that most NFL fans and many analysts miss is how good the Saints run D (when the D is healthy) gets as games go along. Casual viewers of Saints games see Ronnie Brown, or Turner, or whoever gash us early in games and think the Saints are VERY vulnerable to the run, and teams just give up on it. More often what has happened is teams gave up on the run after the Saints started to shut it down. If you take away the one 70 yard run, Arizona ran the ball 14 times for 31 yards with a long of 7 yards.

When Sed Ellis is in the lineup, the Saint's are amazingly stout against the run once the defense gets its act together. I think it has to do with Williams making adjustments to overcome our weakness on the DL. It takes a while in some games, but when he has a good DT in Ellis to work with, he gets it done eventually.


Im not prepared to argue how good/bad the Saints run defense gets as the game goes on but I do know they gave up 122.2 YPG with a 4.5 Avg while being a team that was in the lead most of the season.

Football outsiders has them ranked 29th in rushing defense.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2009 DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef)

From the 4/5 times Ive seen the Saints this year it seems teams give up on the run because the Saints offense is so potent that they get 10-14 point leads so teams think they have to play catch up.

[Tigercat]

Im not prepared to argue how good/bad the Saints run defense gets as the game goes on but I do know they gave up 122.2 YPG with a 4.5 Avg while being a team that was in the lead most of the season.

Football outsiders has them ranked 29th in rushing defense.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | 2009 DEFENSE EFFICIENCY RATINGS (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef)

From the 4/5 times Ive seen the Saints this year it seems teams give up on the run because the Saints offense is so potent that they get 10-14 point leads so teams think they have to play catch up.

A lot of that occurred when Ellis was hurt or severely hobbled. Look at the Dolphins game as an example. After a 68 yard run early in the first quarter, they couldn't average more than 2 yards a carry. This was the best running team at the time, at home, with a lead for most of the game.

This is also when Sed Ellis was healthy. Don't let runs early in games against the Saints or how bad the Saints run defense was without Ellis fool you, Greg Williams can find a way to stop the run. I am not saying that the Saints are good at stopping the run overall, I am just saying that I am not sure anyone should plan on a team beating the Saints with the running game in the second half of games.

[jbergey22]

I remember that scheme. There was a segment on the NFL Network about it. One of the only teams that could stop the Dolphins run attack for any part of the game.

They are kind of the opposite the Vikings in that aspect. Its very difficult to run on them early in games but as the game opens up a bit you can find some holes running against the Vikings.

[ColtCrazy]

Just back from the Colts game. Great crowd tonight...really got behind the team.

Big plays in this game. The TD before the half, Garcon's amazing forced fumble, some good stuff.

Biggest story was Colts D. Ray Rice just didn't have room to run. Flacco desperately needs a receiver so he isn't constantly making 2 yard dump offs to Rice.

Ravens D played well mostly, holding the Colts to 20 (though the Colts did make some big offensive plays), but their offense was horrible. I'm sure it's a mix between great Colts D and horrible Ravens O.

Can't wait for next Sunday now.

[mauchow]

I REALLY hope the Vikings continue the streak of bad games. I want the Vikings to demolish the Cowboys, I don't think I can stand a nail biter.

[SFL Cat]

Not saying this because I'm an uber Cowboys' fan. I want the Vikings to crash and burn. Then Favre can retire, unretire and try to catch on with next season's Super Bowl favorite.

[Greyroofoo]

Gooooo Colts!!!!

[Senator]

GO COWBOYS! What a great and fun matchup!!! Beer on ice and rotel dip warming up! Let the games begin!

[Lathum]

I hate both the Cowgirls and the Vikings. The good thing is the way the Saints looked yesterday it may not matter who wins.

[Senator]

Boring day for you then.

[Doug5984]

I really don't know who I want to win today...

We lost to the Cowboys, and I'd love to get revenge- we were so banged up in that game, and still a dropped TD (damnit Devery) away from being tied late in 4th- and that was the worst game they played all season. I think given another shot we can take em. That being said- I'd be happy not playing Demarcus Ware again...and what tigercat said earlier, I don't want to play a QB that can scramble that always seems to get us on big 3rd downs.

All season long I wanted to play the Vikings to prove we could beat them- now we might have a shot.

Either way- to win the superbowl you have to beat the best, so it's going to be a good game and I can't wait to get there- think I'll head to Nola on Friday to get an extra day to take it all in.


Speaking of- I stopped by Mother's before the game to get a po-boy and I sat next to Gruden, well I sat at the bar, and he was at the table behind me...when we walked in I was like wait- is that Chucky, sure enough it was him- he was eating so I didn't want to bug him to get a picture, but still very cool.

[Logan]

Speaking of- I stopped by Mother's before the game to get a po-boy and I sat next to Gruden, well I sat at the bar, and he was at the table behind me...when we walked in I was like wait- is that Chucky, sure enough it was him- he was eating so I didn't want to bug him to get a picture, but still very cool.

I bet Gruden thought the po' boy he was eating was the GREATEST THING EVER!

[Doug5984]

I bet Gruden thought the po' boy he was eating was the GREATEST THING EVER!

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x275/doug5984/Random/pb1-747542.jpg

this time it may have been true...

[Eaglesfan27]

Good start for the Vikings with the turnover. Hopefully, they capitalize here.

[Lathum]

Boring day for you then.

Never a boring game when you can gamble. Took the Cowboys +3 and the under 46.

[KWhit]

Never a boring game when you can gamble. Took the Cowboys +3 and the under 46.

For how much (if you don't mind me asking)?

[Lathum]

For how much (if you don't mind me asking)?

$50 each.

[Lathum]

Terrible playcalling there by Phillips to not go for it on 4th and 1. With all the kicking problems they have had. Nice message to send to your offense that they can't get one yard. Keep playing to lose Wade.

[Tigercat]

If Fox Sports had any balls or any concern about balanced announcing they would never let Aikman and Buck do Dallas games.

[sovereignstar]

BOOMSHALAKALAKA

[bronconick]

I think the Dallas corner could have tackled him at about the 10 yard line instead of jogging into the end zone next to him.

[larrymcg421]

I think the Dallas corner could have tackled him at about the 10 yard line instead of jogging into the end zone next to him.

Yeah, it almost looked like he didn't know Rice caught it.

[Passacaglia]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x275/doug5984/Random/pb1-747542.jpg

this time it may have been true...

So you didn't get a picture of Gruden, but you did get a picture of his sandwich?!

[Eaglesfan27]

Great play call and execution.

[sovereignstar]

He's just having fun out there!

[Crapshoot]

I hate Farve, but that was a neat play on the TD pass.

[Eaglesfan27]

Nice to see Romo back to his usual playoff form.

[MikeVic]

Whatever the hell that buzzing noise is in the game, congrats, you just made me turn off this game due to annoyance.

[tucker rocky]

Is Romo beginning to implode as usual in the playoffs?

[tucker rocky]

Nice to see Romo back to his usual playoff form.

Looks like it.

[sovereignstar]

Whatever the hell that buzzing noise is in the game, congrats, you just made me turn off this game due to annoyance.

You're not referring to the noise that the football is making coming out of 40-year old Brett Favre's arm 19 weeks into the season are you?

[Tigercat]

So you didn't get a picture of Gruden, but you did get a picture of his sandwich?!

If Gruden was with a fine woman you wouldn't expect the priority to be a Gruden picture would you? Priorities man! Nothing wrong with a picture of a sexy po boy.

[larrymcg421]

Yeah, Romo's imploding "as usual"* with a 11-15, 117 yard performance. It has nothing to do with his offensive line, no running support, and an awful defense giving up 7 yards per play. I guess we're back to pretending there is only one player on every team.

*As usual = 2 games, I guess.

[kingfc22]

Did Joe Buck really compare Sidney Rice to Jerry Rice after his second TD? Wow. That guy is such an idiot.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, Romo's imploding "as usual"* with a 11-15, 117 yard performance. It has nothing to do with his offensive line, no running support, and an awful defense giving up 7 yards per play. I guess we're back to pretending their is only one player on every team.

*As usual = 2 games, I guess.

No, he held it too long on at least 1 of his fumbles and has shown poor ball security yet again. Lots of QB's get hit a lot and don't fumble as frequently as he has in the playoffs.

[markprior22]

Romo isn't the issue...Minn d is playing a tremendous game

[Lathum]

Did Joe Buck really compare Sidney Rice to Jerry Rice after his second TD? Wow. That guy is such an idiot.

Not at all. He called him the second best receiver named rice to ever play. How in any way is that making a comparason. Unless he said something later in the broadcast I missed.

[MJ4H]

Not at all. He called him the second best receiver named rice to ever play. How in any way is that making a comparason. Unless he said something later in the broadcast I missed.

He said "looking a lot like the other Rice"

[MrDNA]

Not at all. He called him the second best receiver named rice to ever play. How in any way is that making a comparason. Unless he said something later in the broadcast I missed.

Then after the 2nd TD he did say something like "and now he's playing at the same level as that other Rice..."

Buck has a tremendous fear of TV time w/o his voice filling it.

[MrDNA]

Folk > Suisham

[kingfc22]

Nice kicking game Dallas. Might want to work on that in the offseason.

[Tigercat]

Perfect example of Aikman calling Dallas games stupidity:

They show the replay of Ratliff holding the center (only replay they show), Aikman says:"..and it looks like he did hold him right there."

No more than 15 seconds later "But I didn't see a hold there." What?!?

[RedKingGold]

Tony Romo is a horrible kickholder.

I wouldn't let him handle my testicles.

[MrBug708]

Nice kick Kluwe

[Eaglesfan27]

Nice kick Kluwe

Punting is winning.

[sovereignstar]

Oh, the Vikings accepted the running into the kicker penalty and forced them to re-punt. wtf is Joe Buck talking about?

[MrBug708]

Punting is winning.

Kicker U baby!

[larrymcg421]

Has there ever been a bigger gap in coaching talent and team talent than there is with Brad Childress and the Vikings this year?

[Pumpy Tudors]

And Joe Buck is STILL saying that the Vikings accepted the running into the kicker penalty. When is he going to get it?

[sovereignstar]

And Joe Buck is STILL saying that the Vikings accepted the running into the kicker penalty. When is he going to get it?

3 times now!

[Pumpy Tudors]

3 times now!
WOW, SOMEBODY FINALLY TOLD HIM!

[Lathum]

Then after the 2nd TD he did say something like "and now he's playing at the same level as that other Rice..."

Buck has a tremendous fear of TV time w/o his voice filling it.

OK, was in the car listening on the radio during the second TD. That is a little silly.

[Lathum]

Can we blame Romo now?

[kingfc22]

And another Romo playoff turnover.

[RedKingGold]

So far this weekend, my college alma mater (King's College in Wilkes-Barre, PA) beat their rival and Villanova beat Georgetown in basketball.

A Cowboys loss would pretty much complete my sports weekend.

[tucker rocky]

I'll say it again, another Romo meltdown in the playoffs.

Crunch the stats all you want, Romo will break all the Cowboy fans hearts in the playoffs.

[tucker rocky]

Romo looking like a punching bag out there.

[Crapshoot]

Can the Farve ballwashing stop already?

[larrymcg421]

Blame Romo all you want, but the whole team is playing like crap. Where's the criticism for the rest of them? Why do the other 45 guys escape criticism?

[sovereignstar]

Can the Farve ballwashing stop already?

No.

[Chief Rum]

Tony Romo is a horrible kickholder.

I wouldn't let him handle my testicles.

Umm, so if he was a great kickholder, you would let him handle your testicles? Good to know.

[Thomkal]

Troy Aikman sounds so sad for some reason

[sovereignstar]

Locker disharmony FTW.

[CU Tiger]

I'll say it again, another Romo meltdown in the playoffs.

Crunch the stats all you want, Romo will break all the Cowboy fans hearts in the playoffs.

I am not sure what QB would have done much better today. He has been on his back more than his feet....

[Chief Rum]

Romo looking like a punching bag out there.

Not looking much different in this thread neither.

[markprior22]

As a huge Cowboys fan, this game is definitely a disappointment but I've got to give props to Minn. They had a great defensive game plan and have made enough big plays on offense to put it away. I'm very happy with the steps the Cowboys took this year and hope for better days in the future. Good game by the Vikings.

[MikeVic]

I haven't watched any of this weekend's games in their entirety... but judging by the scores, the playoffs so far this year have sucked, is that fair to say? I don't have a team in the playoffs I care about (no Steelers), so for an outsider they've been pretty boring.

[tucker rocky]

Blame Romo all you want, but the whole team is playing like crap. Where's the criticism for the rest of them? Why do the other 45 guys escape criticism?


Anytime a high profile, highly paid QB consistently fails to advance the team further into the playoffs, most of the blame will be directed towards him.

[Chief Rum]

I haven't watched any of this weekend's games in their entirety... but judging by the scores, the playoffs so far this year have sucked, is that fair to say? I don't have a team in the playoffs I care about (no Steelers), so for an outsider they've been pretty boring.

Cards-Packers.

[Abe Sargent]

Can we have one game this weekend that's actually good please?

[Abe Sargent]

The Vikings are dicks. Play Action pass for TD on 4th down?

[sovereignstar]

MORE MORE MORE

[Lathum]

Dick move by Farve and the Vikings.

I get it, they are paid to stop the offense, etc... Just a classless move.

[Logan]

The Vikings are dicks. Play Action pass for TD on 4th down?

Seriously, I mean Dallas has given up on this game for awhile...

[miked]

Anytime a high profile, highly paid QB consistently fails to advance the team further into the playoffs, most of the blame will be directed towards him.

Hard to move them further in the playoffs on his back. :shrug:

[DeToxRox]

Again, these are athletes paid millions of dollars to play 60 minutes. Just because Dallas decided to play 15 doesn't exempt them from getting fucked good and hard. Sure, the karma train might hit the Vikes but guess what? Dallas shouldn't have rolled over and it wouldn't be an issue.

[Abe Sargent]

Mark my words, the Football Gods will make sure the Saints win next week simply because of that play.

[sovereignstar]

The Vikings are dicks. Play Action pass for TD on 4th down?

They knew you wanted to see Brett Favre celebrate again.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I love this game.

[Logan]

Dick move by Farve and the Vikings.

I get it, they are paid to stop the offense, etc... Just a classless move.

Fuck. That.

[Crapshoot]

So, I assume everyone outside of Minnesota is rooting for NO next week?

[Chief Rum]

The Vikings are dicks. Play Action pass for TD on 4th down?

I thought Petey was hired by the Seahawks?

[tucker rocky]

If the score was reversed, I imagine Dallas would've done it too.

[dervack]

If the score was reversed, I imagine Dallas would've done it too.
Bingo.

[Lathum]

Fuck. That.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

[tucker rocky]

So, I assume everyone outside of Minnesota is rooting for NO next week?

I like NO, just because the team and city are way more deserving.
Sorry Vikings, 1 more year can't hurt, can it?

[ColtCrazy]

Dick move by Farve and the Vikings.

I get it, they are paid to stop the offense, etc... Just a classless move.

Agreed. Buck's comment about "don't like it, stop it" is stupid. Since when was that feeling a substitution for sportsmanship?

[mauchow]

Are we really going to talk sportsmanship?

Watch the whole first quarter again... The Cowboys were jawing the whooooole time. The Vikings just SHUT THEM THE FUCK UP for the rest of the game. The last touchdown was just a big fat FUCK YOU.

Karma, schmarma.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Agreed. Buck's comment about "don't like it, stop it" is stupid. Since when was that feeling a substitution for sportsmanship?
How about "if you don't like it, try to stop it"? Dallas didn't even try.

[Eaglesfan27]

Funny to see the Vikings singing "Pants on the Ground" in the locker room after the game.

[k0ruptr]

I'll be rooting for the Vikes next weekend.

[RedKingGold]

Umm, so if he was a great kickholder, you would let him handle your testicles? Good to know.

What, you like dry fingers on your balls?

No thank you.

[dervack]

Dick move by Farve and the Vikings.

I get it, they are paid to stop the offense, etc... Just a classless move.
Yeah, I'd be like playing "Hey, hey, Goodbye" while the game is still being played.....

[Chief Rum]

What, you like dry fingers on your balls?

No thank you.

My preference is no fingers on my balls. Or at least no fingers by anyone eligible to play in the NFL. :)

[RedKingGold]

My preference is no fingers on my balls. Or at least no fingers by anyone eligible to play in the NFL. :)

You will regret this statement after the NFL merges with the Lingerie League or the Arena Football League.*

*Don't tell Pumpy I said that.

[cougarfreak]

Is there any place to watch the game live on TV? Just curios, when NBC has a Sunday night game, you can watch it on the web. Never tried with another affiliate.

[mauchow]

justintv

[Chief Rum]

You will regret this statement after the NFL merges with the Lingerie League or the Arena Football League.*

*Don't tell Pumpy I said that.

:D

[MrDNA]

Bad day for kicking, eh?

[JonInMiddleGA]

I like NO, just because the team and city are way more deserving.

I can't imagine anyone has ever posted a sentence here that I disagreed with any more than this one.

[LloydLungs]

So, I assume everyone outside of Minnesota is rooting for NO next week?

There will always be exceptions, but for the most part, unless one is a Vikes fan or would enjoy relentless 24/7 sycophantic Favre coverage for two solid weeks leading up to the SB, they're probably rooting for the Saints. I think a lot of people are counting on the Saints to make the media coverage leading up to the SB slightly less nauseating.

As a Saints fan though, I have to say, I'd have preferred the Cowboys over Minny. The Saints are a reflection of their head coach and are an incredibly cocky team. The Saints NEED people telling them they can't do something in order to play well. Before all their superlative performances this year (Giants, NE, Arizona), they had significant pockets of the media openly doubting their ability. With the Cowboys, they'd have the built-in motivator of already having lost to Dallas. With Minnesota, I don't think there's going to be any good motivation angles for them, and the Saints haven't shown that they're mature enough to play well when the media is impressed with them.

As such I think the Saints lay an egg next week and lose, but I do hope I'm wrong.

[kingfc22]

I haven't seen the Jets play much this season, but for a team that plays to win via defense and field position they have a sub-par punter.

[Karlifornia]

I can't imagine anyone has ever posted a sentence here that I disagreed with any more than this one.

Let's make this political and ideological! GREAT IDEA!

[RedKingGold]

I can't imagine anyone has ever posted a sentence here that I disagreed with any more than this one.

HYPERBOLE!

[rowech]

I'm recovering from an apendectomy and didn't really read through all these comments or see every play of the game but did Dallas ever call a screen on 3rd and 7-10? Once? It seemed they called some early on on 1st down but if you want to stop a team from just planting your QB every 2nd and 3rd or long, why not try a screen to stop that? It's a basic counter move that works most of the time.

[Surtt]

I like NO, just because the team and city are way more deserving.
Sorry Vikings, 1 more year can't hurt, can it?

As a long time (30+ years) Viking's fan, all I can say is we've paid our dues.

[Lathum]

T With Minnesota, I don't think there's going to be any good motivation angles for them, and the Saints haven't shown that they're mature enough to play well when the media is impressed with them.
.

If playing to go to the Superbowl isn't motivation enough then they don't deserve to be there.

[Karlifornia]

Bob Dylan in a Pepsi Throwback commercial. I guess at some point you just get too old to care about....whatever it is you have to care about to not want your songs in Pepsi commercials.

[JonInMiddleGA]

HYPERBOLE!

Not really.

I mean, I said any more than this one, not "the most ever". It's just in the tied-for-first realm.

[RendeR]

Thank you Referees for confirming what a fucking moron the announcer is. Even after being proved wrong he's now saying "his interpretation" is the right one.

Fucking idiot.

It was an incomplete pass.

[LloydLungs]

If playing to go to the Superbowl isn't motivation enough then they don't deserve to be there.

Well, of course, but Minnesota's going to have that too. That just cancels out. The Saints need every motivational edge possible or they come out very comfortable with themselves and don't play well.

[Chief Rum]

I can't imagine anyone has ever posted a sentence here that I disagreed with any more than this one.

Sounds like a challenge.

Obama will lead us to a new era in American history by banning guns of all sorts, turning us into the ultimate green nation and apologizing to Osama Bin Laden for the American actions which justifiably led to 9/11; oh, and the state of Georgia and everyone in it sucks big donkey balls.

[Karlifornia]

Sounds like a challenge.

Obama will lead us to a new era in American history by banning guns of all sorts, turning us into the ultimate green nation and apologizing to Osama Bin Laden for the American actions which justifiably led to 9/11; oh, and the state of Georgia and everyone in it sucks big donkey balls.

LOL

[Abe Sargent]

Did the announcer just call haiti "HAY-SHA?"

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sounds like a challenge.

Obama will lead us to a new era in American history by banning guns of all sorts, turning us into the ultimate green nation and apologizing to Osama Bin Laden for the American actions which justifiably led to 9/11; oh, and the state of Georgia and everyone in it sucks big donkey balls.

Okay, approaching 100% disagreement.

But that's the same 100% disagreement I have with the statement about just because the team and city are way more deserving. It's the "and city" part I take complete issue with although the notion that the 'Aints are somehow more deserving than the Vikings isn't something I agree with either for that matter. There's just nothing in that sentence I can agree with, whereas in your I could at least agree that there's a "new era in American history" (never mind what I think of that era).

[stevew]

Reggie Ball.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, approaching 100% disagreement.

But that's the same 100% disagreement I have with the statement about just because the team and city are way more deserving. It's the "and city" part I take complete issue with although the notion that the 'Aints are somehow more deserving than the Vikings isn't something I agree with either for that matter. There's just nothing in that sentence I can agree with, whereas in your I could at least agree that there's a "new era in American history" (never mind what I think of that era).

Now that's some spin! Bill O'Reilly would be ashamed of you. :D

[JonInMiddleGA]

Now that's some spin! Bill O'Reilly would be ashamed of you. :D

Granted, finding agreement with yours wasn't easy;) but it's still no more than 100% at worst, same as the other one.

[dervack]

Phil Simms keeps going on about Rex Ryan not challenging the spot of the football, but I thought the replay rule was if moving the football doesn't result in a first down, the ball doesn't move. Or is that incorrect?

[rowech]

Phil Simms keeps going on about Rex Ryan not challenging the spot of the football, but I thought the replay rule was if moving the football doesn't result in a first down, the ball doesn't move. Or is that incorrect?

Not even on this but just in general, I think Simms is a moron.

[Abe Sargent]

Revis is the real deal

[sabotai]

Phil Simms keeps going on about Rex Ryan not challenging the spot of the football, but I thought the replay rule was if moving the football doesn't result in a first down, the ball doesn't move. Or is that incorrect?

No, the ball would move. But if it doesn't result in a first down, the Jets would still lose a timeout.

[Tigercat]

Yea I am not sure "deserving" is the right word. No one "deserves" their favorite team winning anything. Now do the Saints fans support their team better than anyone else in the NFL today? Sure. Would a win mean more to Saints fans than any collective group of NFL fans in the country? Sure. So it would be a nice story for many people outside of New Orleans to see also.

As a Saints fan, a small bonus to me would be that the Saints being a nice story angle would go away with a Super Bowl win. All that talk muddies the water of actual football conversation.

[kingfc22]

Hell of a battle.

[k0ruptr]

Jets in position now to take the lead with a td!

Jets have played an excellent game, ALL Defense, which as long as their D keeps playing like this for one more quarter, they can hang around and one drive might give them the win.

[mauchow]

rut roh.. my long ago pal jimmy leonhard just picked up a big pick.

[Abe Sargent]

I'm glad that, though the score may be low, we finally got a real game. 7 games in the playoffs so far and only one has been competitive so far.

[SackAttack]

Would a win mean more to Saints fans than any collective group of NFL fans in the country? Sure.

Lions fans might beg to differ. I'm just sayin'.

[MrDNA]

Also, Browns fans say "Hi."

[DeToxRox]

Lions fans might beg to differ. I'm just sayin'.

:(

[Big Fo]

Ugh, the fucking Jets might actually win this.

[SackAttack]

:(

What? Am I wrong? Would, or would not, a win advancing to the Super Bowl mean more to Lions fans than to Saints fans?

[Eaglesfan27]

Hell of a battle.

Agreed. This has a been a fun game to watch.

[ColtCrazy]

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS.

I really don't care who the Colts play, both are solid teams. But I would love to see the smug Rivers go one and done.

[fantom1979]

I haven't seen the Jets play much this season, but for a team that plays to win via defense and field position they have a sub-par punter.

The Jets punter has a hamstring injury. He missed last weeks game because of it, and Jay Feely filled in as punter last week.

[Abe Sargent]

What is wrong with the Chargers fans? Why boo here and now?

[ColtCrazy]

Wow. Chargers fans booing. Pats fans booed last week. Colts fans booed for a few weeks. Is this the decade of the fair weather fan?

[SackAttack]

What is wrong with the Chargers fans? Why boo here and now?

Two yard run handoff to Tomlinson, who doesn't seem to be the LT of old, might have something to do with it.

Especially after that pathetic show of offense in the 3rd quarter by the Chargers and the score going the wrong way for the first time all day.

[Lathum]

What? Am I wrong? Would, or would not, a win advancing to the Super Bowl mean more to Lions fans than to Saints fans?

I think it is absurd for a fan of any team to say their team wants it more or it would mean more to them.

[kingfc22]

My list of teams to root for in the playoffs may continue to shrink.

It was GB, SD, and NO.

If SD loses I'll be down to one team I'd be willing to root for.

[Abe Sargent]

I think it is absurd for a fan of any team to say their team wants it more or it would mean more to them.

+1

[fantom1979]

I think it is absurd for a fan of any team to say their team wants it more or it would mean more to them.

For the most part I would agree with you (especially concerning the Saints), but I believe that teams that win often develop a bit of apathy over the years (Red Wings and Braves come to mind).

[Abe Sargent]

My list of teams to root for in the playoffs may continue to shrink.

It was GB, SD, and NO.

If SD loses I'll be down to one team I'd be willing to root for.

If thre remaining teams are seeded 1, 2, 1 and SIX I know who I'm rooting for.

[fantom1979]

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[Matthean]

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS.

I really don't care who the Colts play, both are solid teams. But I would love to see the smug Rivers go one and done.

Outside of being able to beat the Colts, Rivers is the Romo of the AFC. Until Rivers grows up, I would never pick them to win a playoff game if he is their QB.

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[ColtCrazy]

If thre remaining teams are seeded 1, 2, 1 and SIX I know who I'm rooting for.

Hmmmm. I WONDER who it is? :)

[ColtCrazy]

Outside of being able to beat the Colts, Rivers is the Romo of the AFC. Until Rivers grows up, I would never pick them to win a playoff game if he is their QB.

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Yeah, I have to admit I was shocked when they showed his playoff stats. Just 7 TDs and 7 Ints and only 56% completion. He's 1-2 in TD/INT today.

I never know what do make of this team. They can still win this game though. I don't know if the Jets can put it away completely.

[kingfc22]

Wow!

[Abe Sargent]

OUCH!! BOOm!

[k0ruptr]

Shonn Greene! Jets opening up a 10 point lead! WOW WOW WOW.

[ColtCrazy]

Just. Wow.

[mauchow]

that did not just happen. chargers are down 10 now... wowowowo

[mauchow]

My list of teams to root for in the playoffs may continue to shrink.

It was GB, SD, and NO.

If SD loses I'll be down to one team I'd be willing to root for.

OOh, yay! Good news for Vikings fans!!!