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MikeVic
02-08-2010, 10:27 PM
Does anyone know how to change the new layout to go back to the old one?

JonInMiddleGA
02-08-2010, 10:29 PM
Can't as far as I know, another of their "improvements".

I've been lucky so far, they're apparently rolling this out in phases & mine still hasn't changed.

MJ4H
02-08-2010, 10:30 PM
Um, isn't the new one like 500x better than the last one (hint: yes)

MikeVic
02-08-2010, 10:31 PM
dammit, I just wanna log in, check my stuff, and log out. There has to be a way to not show as many things in the news feed though...?

MJ4H
02-08-2010, 10:32 PM
What do you want to see? You can click Friends and then Status Updates on the left tab if that's all you want to see, for instance.

MikeVic
02-08-2010, 10:34 PM
I mean when I click Home... there's that News Feed on the main page. I know with the old layout, I could drag some menu item on the left to the top and all I'd see were basically status updates and some other minor stuff. Right now I'm seeing a friend commenting on a non-friend picture, status, and other crap I don't care about at all.

KWhit
02-08-2010, 10:46 PM
If you don't want to see the feed(s), what exactly are you using FB for? Isn't that "crap" kind of the point of FB?

JonInMiddleGA
02-08-2010, 10:59 PM
dammit, I just wanna log in, check my stuff, and log out. There has to be a way to not show as many things in the news feed though...?

That sounds like it should be easy enough based on what I've read about the new settings, their purpose seems to be to make it difficult to get hardly anything to show up best I can figure. You should look around in the settings, there should be something that allows you to not only turn off/on various types of things but also you can add/subtract people who show up in your updated feeds (along with whatever algorithm they use to pick them now).

cuervo72
02-08-2010, 11:22 PM
I'm finding the rework annoying.

Sometimes I go between Top News and Most Recent in News Feed, and one or the other will say that there are no updates. Ordering within either one often seems random, where posts from days ago will show up higher than posts from 5 minutes ago. This may be because someone decided to like the older post - but honestly, I don't care if someone I don't know "liked" someone's post w/o commenting.

Friends. I would like to sometimes just get a list of my friends, so I can click on their names to see their wall. How do I get to this now? Clicking once on 'Friends' expands the navigation. Status updates just shows those who have recently had status updates. Same for clicking on any of the categories I set. What of those who haven't had recent updates? I have to go first to MY profile, then to my list of friends. PITA.

Clicking 'Friends Online' opens up the same old chat window, way on the other side of the broswer? Stupid. Have one or the other.

Comey
02-08-2010, 11:23 PM
dammit, I just wanna log in, check my stuff, and log out. There has to be a way to not show as many things in the news feed though...?

Click on what you don't want to see and there should be a option to hide those feeds. It's nice, actually. I abhor Farmville and that I got 348039849032184903 Farmville updates a day, despite the fact that I abhor Farmville. I clicked on one of them, and hid Farmville from my updates.

Poof! No more Farmville.

I use this rather liberally, because I have a fair amount of women on my friends' list that like to send out stupid little "presents" to everyone. Good Lord, that annoys me. Here's a kiss to you! Awww, snuggie bear has arrived! You're my Valentine!

Shut the hell up, please.

I like Facebook, and I know this stuff has been around since the beginning. But it's getting to be more the rule than the exception, it seems. Or maybe I'm noticing it a bit more. But it seems, oh, I don't know...too MySpace-ish (just those stupid little spam things...I like FB otherwise, still clean and more professional-looking than the total spamfest MySpace became).

MikeVic
02-08-2010, 11:31 PM
Alright I'll look around the settings... I'm finding how to hide certain people, which is the same as before, but not things like "friend comments on a non-friend item" yet.

KWhit -- I like the News Feed for all friend-related activity. Not when a friend becomes a fan of something, or comments on a non-friend status, etc. I don't give a rat's ass what my friends are saying to people I don't know.

Rizon
02-08-2010, 11:35 PM
The feeds have been broken for a long, long time.

I haven't noticed my page changing any, but my GFs has changed. My god is it an unorganized mess.

I hope Facebook isn't paying any employees or contractors to make these "upgrades/updates" because they're awful ... and buggy as hell.

JonInMiddleGA
02-08-2010, 11:53 PM
Sometimes I go between Top News and Most Recent in News Feed, and one or the other will say that there are no updates.

I've been getting that same deal since that started rolling out the new dashboard. No rhyme or reason I can find, seems to be as random as their phased roll out.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 12:00 AM
I like Facebook, and I know this stuff has been around since the beginning. But it's getting to be more the rule than the exception, it seems.

Best I can figure, the game apps (Farmville the most prominent of them) are providing a big chunk of FB's traffic. Latest stats show that fully 1/4th of all FB users are also Farmville residents, almost half of my friends list have it activated, roughly a 1/3rd currently play it (and roughly 2/3rds play one or more games).

One of the big changes in the pipeline is a plan to virtually kill off the notifications, which I suspect may ultimately be the undoing of FB since without the gaming apps there's simply no reason for people to visit the site throughout the day. And without the notifications the already difficult time management for the games will become unmanageable for most people, leading to the death of the games. That means less traffic, which means less ad impressions, for a site that's already struggling badly to monetize their traffic. Unless the plan is to create an artificial inventory shortage to try to increase the CPM (which won't work unless they completely revamp their Godawful selling model) I don't see how reducing impressions helps them get any closer to finally getting out of the red.

DaddyTorgo
02-09-2010, 01:07 AM
what would possibly motivate them to do away with the notifications then??

Schmidty
02-09-2010, 01:16 AM
Can't as far as I know, another of their "improvements".

I've been lucky so far, they're apparently rolling this out in phases & mine still hasn't changed.

You have a FB, and we aren't friends? I am publicly whining. :(

;)

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 06:50 AM
what would possibly motivate them to do away with the notifications then??

The advert guy in me has been scratching his head over that for about a month now, ever since a few of the app developers started making cryptic (and then less cryptic) comments about the changes that they'd been notified to start preparing for.

The reasoning that makes more sense to me than anything else was what I mentioned earlier, that they're actually trying to drive down impressions in order to make their existing inventory more valuable (via scarcity). It happens with both radio & TV, I suppose it could be tried online as well. I just don't see anything else that makes much sense, unless they're having capacity issues and want to solve those by driving away some of their business.

Another possibility is that they're trying to find some solution to the somewhat polarizing nature of the game apps. Look no further than this thread for an example of the wide gulf in reactions they generate. My take is that they serve an extremely valuable purpose, promoting interaction among users and even more importantly making FB an all-day destination rather than a once in a while (i.e. every few days) stop on user's internet tour.

Unless they've improved on the original plan (and that's a distinct possibility from what I've seen in the past few days) it seemed very likely to me that they were going to pretty much kill the games by killing notifications as they're at the core of nearly all of them (because of the I scratch your back & you scratch mine nature that nearly all of them feature). Without 'em there's not a trigger for that to take place. And without 'em I can't imagine I'd visit the site more than maybe once or twice a week when I happened to think about it instead of having it open at virtually all times when I'm online.

Ultimately though the move may come down to something else that I've seen mentioned in a couple of articles about the latest changes this week. Both of those basically pointed out the rather obstinate nature of FB changes during its history, a pretty clear "we don't give a damn if you like it or not" attitude that emerges every time they make a big change. I suspect the truth about this lies around some form of the Peter Principle, in that the site has grown to the point of being larger than anyone involved with it ever really imagined or is truly capable of managing very well. My own best guess is that we're right around the peak for FB and fairly soon we'll see it begin the slide back down the hill just like MySpace did before it.

TLK
02-09-2010, 06:59 AM
what would possibly motivate them to do away with the notifications then??

Aren't the notifications at the top of the page?

wade moore
02-09-2010, 07:00 AM
Um, isn't the new one like 500x better than the last one (hint: yes)


BUZZ! Wrong answer!

Logan
02-09-2010, 07:07 AM
I actually like the new look more than the old one, which I've hated for the last several versions (really since they made the feed the most prominent piece of the site). I still don't understand the difference between "news feed" and "live feed" or whatever the hell it was called.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:08 AM
Aren't the notifications at the top of the page?

Beats me. I've only seen a few screenshots of the new layout. I still haven't been afflicted with it yet, only the bugs associated with it. The new layout also doesn't seem to be the full rollout of the app related changes that are being implement.

Supposedly the plan is for a "dashboard" styled implementation when the changes for notifications are fully in place, located in the far left frame. Problem is that it's designed (based on what's leaked so far) to show only 3 recent app related activities whereas I currently see something on the order of a dozen to two dozen per hour. Given the increasingly poor load times for nearly all of the apps checking each of the ones I'm active with individually just to see if there's something that needs attention isn't remotely realistic.

JPhillips
02-09-2010, 07:10 AM
Being flooded with game updates, group join notifications and friend updates has made FB damn near useless for me. I can't actually sort through status updates because my page is flooded with so much crap. I can no longer find any way to hide types of notifications without blocking everything from an individual.

Well, FB was fun while it lasted.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:12 AM
I still don't understand the difference between "news feed" and "live feed" or whatever the hell it was called.

That was pretty easy to explain. News feed was culled from all your friends activity in the past 24-72 hours, with priority given to certain people's items based on some secret formula that only FB knew the specifics of but weighted to some extent to those you interacted with most frequently. Live feed was largely unfiltered near real-time on whatever level of info you chose (only friends vs friends + friends of friends, etc)

Passacaglia
02-09-2010, 07:13 AM
So wait...those games notify you and tell you when to do stuff? I thought they were something more like Trukz, where you log on once a day to check stuff out.


the rather obstinate nature of FB changes during its history, a pretty clear "we don't give a damn if you like it or not" attitude that emerges every time they make a big change


In all the changes I've seen FB make, it's pretty rare to see actual complaints about the changes made. With so many people using the site, the only statement that the loudest voices can agree on is "we don't like change", which makes no sense for FB to respond to when they're trying to improve their product.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:17 AM
Being flooded with game updates, group join notifications and friend updates has made FB damn near useless for me. I can't actually sort through status updates because my page is flooded with so much crap. I can no longer find any way to hide types of notifications without blocking everything from an individual. Well, FB was fun while it lasted.

Barring bugs, there should be settings that actually give more control than before. Problem is that the implementation seems to be buggy as hell so far. Check out the various help forums & you'll see nearly every feature is broken at least for some users, maybe none of the bugs more irritating than the fact that changing your settings for things like what level of updates from your friends isn't persistent, i.e. users are having to change their preferences with every log in.

MJ4H
02-09-2010, 07:26 AM
BUZZ! Wrong answer!

It certainly appears to be to me.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:28 AM
So wait...those games notify you and tell you when to do stuff? I thought they were something more like Trukz, where you log on once a day to check stuff out.

Not at all, at least not if you're truly engaged in the games. That plural is a big key to the amount too, depending on not only which games you play but also how many of them. On average, I get roughly a dozen game notifications an hour for all but the overnight hours, plus another half dozen or so requests for some action per hour, and that's all outside of whatever activity within the games I do for myself. So outside of the puzzle type games each individual game is similar to Trukz, where eventually you're done until some timing sequence expires, there's a significant level of activity to conduct outside of your own play. And for success in many of the games that's important stuff as various items are only available through some (automated) interaction with friends or "neighbors" as a lot of the games call them.

In all the changes I've seen FB make, it's pretty rare to see actual complaints about the changes made.

That's definitely contrary to both my limited (6 month'ish) experience as well as every account of previous changes I've read, which basically described them as having one of the more remarkable track records of increasing unhappiness with every change they've made back to day one.

MJ4H
02-09-2010, 07:29 AM
That's definitely contrary to both my limited (6 month'ish) experience as well as every account of previous changes I've read, which basically described them as having one of the more remarkable track records of increasing unhappiness with every change they've made back to day one.

In my experience, it's the one thing you can count on. When facebook changes, people bitch.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:32 AM
In my experience, it's the one thing you can count on. When facebook changes, people bitch.

Yeah, that's pretty much my take too. And it's interesting to watch as people on my list drop their use of FB each time there's a noticeable change.

While their raw numbers are still increasing, the attrition rate has to be pretty bad.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:40 AM
For those who are curious, here's an interesting site (http://www.allfacebook.com/) that not only tracks (attempts to track?) app usage right down to daily trends but also collects various FB app related news.

For example, EA is apparently planning to launch some form of Madden on FB.
EA To Release Madden NFL Game For Facebook (http://www.socialtimes.com/2010/02/ea-madden-facebook/)

ISiddiqui
02-09-2010, 08:44 AM
The annoying thing for me is that I'm stuck on the old format. I want the new one, but for some reason facebook has me on the old one. Grumble.

stevew
02-09-2010, 08:50 AM
Fuck all the farmville, mafia wars, roller coaster shit.

Passacaglia
02-09-2010, 08:55 AM
The annoying thing for me is that I'm stuck on the old format. I want the new one, but for some reason facebook has me on the old one. Grumble.

Same here. I want to check it out and see what everyone is whining about.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 09:00 AM
Fuck all the farmville, mafia wars, roller coaster shit.

This kind of highlights something I've never really understood, namely the animosity toward the game apps.

I mean, I get that they aren't everybody's thing, that's cool. But it's also a matter of one click per app that annoys you to make them disappear from your feed forever. Don't like the joining requests? Again, one click & they vanish forever. How hard is that?

I mean, my wife is one of the least tech savvy people on the planet & she managed to conquer it with great ease, so why is it still an issue for anyone? Don't like them, then make them go away, how tough is it?

stevew
02-09-2010, 09:05 AM
I'm like a 100% mobile facebook user, basically. I can't figure out how to adjust them so they go away. I think I may have made it happen, but I'm not sure.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 09:07 AM
I'm like a 100% mobile facebook user, basically. I can't figure out how to adjust them so they go away. I think I may have made it happen, but I'm not sure.

I don't know what options you see/don't see with the mobile thing but if they're as annoying to you as they seem to be then I'd strongly suggest logging in at least once from an actual pc and fixing the majority of the problem in a matter of minutes. If you just knock out the ones you mentioned you should cut deeply into the number of them you see.

JPhillips
02-09-2010, 09:11 AM
This kind of highlights something I've never really understood, namely the animosity toward the game apps.

I mean, I get that they aren't everybody's thing, that's cool. But it's also a matter of one click per app that annoys you to make them disappear from your feed forever. Don't like the joining requests? Again, one click & they vanish forever. How hard is that?

I mean, my wife is one of the least tech savvy people on the planet & she managed to conquer it with great ease, so why is it still an issue for anyone? Don't like them, then make them go away, how tough is it?

That's the way it used to be, but I can't figure out how to do that on the new layout.

Ronnie Dobbs2
02-09-2010, 09:13 AM
Hover just to the right of the post, a hide box comes up, you select Hide *Obnoxious App* and it's gone.

KWhit
02-09-2010, 09:26 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/KWhit/51lpSMDQt1L.jpg

JPhillips
02-09-2010, 09:45 AM
Hover just to the right of the post, a hide box comes up, you select Hide *Obnoxious App* and it's gone.

Thanks. Now if I could do the same with "X and X are friends" and "X has joined the group Y" posts.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 10:18 AM
Thanks. Now if I could do the same with "X and X are friends" and "X has joined the group Y" posts.

I think you can, at least if the settings options are working the way they're supposed to (and I understand what "supposed to" is correctly).

Somewhere, I believe it's hidden amongst options found in your Friends tab now, should be something along the lines of "only status updates from this person". Or at least that's what I've read is possible.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 10:21 AM
Another of those random FB tidbits released this morning.

Basically over the last 6 months the number of users has doubled but the amount of user-posted content has quintupled ... despite a decline in the amount of typed-in status reports. Bottom line is that there's more content being shared, with a belief that the increase in ease to link items from other websites to Facebook playing the biggest part. In other words, if you think there's a lot more stuff in your feeds than there used to be, you're right. And since the average user shares 12 pieces of content (their own status or some other content) each week, the more you grow your friends list the more stuff you're going to see by close to two items more per day.

Facebook Application Statistics (http://www.allfacebook.com/2010/02/facebook-releases-new-statistics-sharing-quintuples-in-6-months/)

DaddyTorgo
02-09-2010, 10:34 AM
how much more is actual user-generated content versus games/polls (what i'll characterize as "fluff")

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 10:51 AM
how much more is actual user-generated content versus games/polls (what i'll characterize as "fluff")

I've now read three versions of this same basic info & honestly can't tell what the breakout of those is, or whether they're even being counted as "user generated content".

Just based on the baseline average of 12 pieces per week, I have a hard time imagining those are included in these stats at all. I generate more than 12 of those per hour each day, much less in a week.

edit to add: Here's a slightly more detailed breakdown (http://digital.venturebeat.com/2010/02/08/facebook-shares/) which includes a staggering figure of 3 BILLION photo uploads per month.

DaddyTorgo
02-09-2010, 10:56 AM
cool - thanks Jon.

damn - that's a lot of photos

Ronnie Dobbs2
02-09-2010, 10:57 AM
I'm taking a class on the digital age and the professor pointed out that Facebook has roughly a petabyte of data (order of magnitude-wise).

DaddyTorgo
02-09-2010, 11:00 AM
that's petabyte and not pedabyte right Ronnie?

KWhit
02-09-2010, 11:00 AM
that's petabyte and not pedabyte right Ronnie?

My hard drive says it can be both.

I keed. I keed.

Lathum
02-09-2010, 11:00 AM
Another of those random FB tidbits released this morning.

Basically over the last 6 months the number of users has doubled but the amount of user-posted content has quintupled ... despite a decline in the amount of typed-in status reports. Bottom line is that there's more content being shared, with a belief that the increase in ease to link items from other websites to Facebook playing the biggest part. In other words, if you think there's a lot more stuff in your feeds than there used to be, you're right. And since the average user shares 12 pieces of content (their own status or some other content) each week, the more you grow your friends list the more stuff you're going to see by close to two items more per day.

Facebook Application Statistics (http://www.allfacebook.com/2010/02/facebook-releases-new-statistics-sharing-quintuples-in-6-months/)

I think this has a lot to do with older people who have ore time on their hands joining up. My In-Laws joined about 6-8 months ago and they are constantly playing those stupid games.

Ronnie Dobbs2
02-09-2010, 11:01 AM
Yeah, and I think even that number is obsolete, they're probably in the tens of petabytes now. They were at 5 in November.

Yesterday’s Terabyte is Today’s Petabyte « Previously Impossible (http://previouslyimpossible.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/yesterdays-terabyte-is-todays-petabyte/)

Logan
02-09-2010, 12:11 PM
I really didn't see how Facebook would emerge and expand dating back to the days when it was limited to a small group of colleges and it was all about finding creative methods to hook up with girls.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 12:57 PM
I think this has a lot to do with older people who have ore time on their hands joining up. My In-Laws joined about 6-8 months ago and they are constantly playing those stupid games.

Eh, I dunno about that. Out of 153 people currently on my list, roughly half of them are game active to some extent, over a third of them play at least one of the biggies, and about 1/5th play anywhere from a half dozen to two dozen of them same as I do.

Of those, only three are over 60, less than a dozen are over 50, and virtually all the rest are 30-49. My wife (who has zero interest in the games) has similar results with an older age skew for her friends list but the same sort of breakout for the games. And there's very little duplication on our lists, so that isn't skewing it.

Unless we know an really unusual crop of roughly 300 people between us, I'd say there's definitely a sweet spot for the games somewhere between the mid 30's and mid 40's.

And you damned well better not be referring to those groups as "older people" ;)

Ronnie Dobbs2
02-09-2010, 12:59 PM
Compared to the average facebook user I would certainly think they are.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 01:06 PM
Compared to the average facebook user I would certainly think they are.

Here ya go, and these are from June 09. Assuming the steady trend has continued since then, 35-44 is likely the largest single demographic cell on FB by now.
The Average Age of Facebook Users Rises in May - This while the social networking site gains even more overall market share - Softpedia (http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Average-Age-of-Facebook-Users-Rises-in-May-114302.shtml)

As Facebook is growing, first becoming the largest social network in the world and finally surpassing MySpace in the US in May, it looks like the age of its users is growing with it. A new Hitwise report shows that the average age of the Facebook user has gone up with those between 25 and 44 years old, now making up more than half of the social network's user base, growing from just 32 percent a year ago.

This continues the trend of older users signing up for the service, as the rise has been apparent since March, when the numbers of users over 35 doubled over the previous two months and when the majority of Facebook users were already over 25. In one year, from May 2008, the 18-24 year old segment decreased as a percentage of the whole Facebook demographic from 38.55 percent of the visits to just 19.40 percent. This while those between 24-34 years old grew 12 percent to 27.34 percent of the visits, and those between 35-44 years old grew from 17.20 percent to 24.78.

Ronnie Dobbs2
02-09-2010, 01:12 PM
That actually sounds familiar. I stand corrected.

Though I've found the older the person the more likely they are to have a page but never utilize it.

Samdari
02-09-2010, 01:55 PM
Though I've found the older the person the more likely they are to have a page but never utilize it.

I've found exactly the opposite. Younger users are far more likely to have something interesting to do than us old folk.

Neither one of us knows enough people to have any idea of the real story.

stevew
02-09-2010, 02:56 PM
I'm just sad that I have about 7 months and change of being in the ever important 18-34 demographic. When did I get old?

And I would probably play trukz or something similar if it was on Facebook.

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 05:36 PM
Oh goody ... I now have the new layout as of just before 3pm. Had a meeting about that time so I haven't had a chance to screw around with it yet.

JediKooter
02-09-2010, 06:16 PM
New layout hit mine and it's all dicked up now. People's updates and posts have disappeared and when I hit refresh, you briefly see them and then they go away. Nice...

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 06:17 PM
New layout hit mine and it's all dicked up now. People's updates and posts have disappeared and when I hit refresh, you briefly see them and then they go away. Nice...

Same thing that was happening to me (and others apparently) even before we got hit with the new layout.

Ronnie Dobbs2
02-09-2010, 06:20 PM
I'll echo that I've had missing/reappearing updates.

edit: Both before the update and after. Seemed to start when the rollout began, though.

Rizon
02-09-2010, 06:30 PM
New layout hit mine and it's all dicked up now. People's updates and posts have disappeared and when I hit refresh, you briefly see them and then they go away. Nice...

I joined Facebook a year ago. I've never not experienced this. :banghead:

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 06:35 PM
I'll echo that I've had missing/reappearing updates.

edit: Both before the update and after. Seemed to start when the rollout began, though.

Oh yeah, definitely saw that for the first time as they began the rollout (although I may have given a different impression with the previous post)

terpkristin
02-09-2010, 06:59 PM
I have the new layout, don't really care one way or the other about the layout. But I'm annoyed with missing posts, or changing posts (disappearing and reappearing, comments disappearing and reappearing), as well as issues with photos. Been having issues uploading directly to FB, and at one point on Sunday, I couldn't find any of MY albums, only those of my friends.

I don't really spend much time on FB, so it's hard to worry too much, but it's very noticeable when things break.

/tk

JediKooter
02-09-2010, 07:11 PM
Same thing that was happening to me (and others apparently) even before we got hit with the new layout.

Maybe I didn't notice as much before, but now...holy crap it's bad. I actually dont mind the layout, it's the functionality that is messed up to me. I still can't respond to requests, before or after this change.

JediKooter
02-09-2010, 07:16 PM
Great. Now I can't even freaking comment on someone's post...

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:17 PM
I still can't respond to requests, before or after this change.

Well if it's any consolation to you, that problem has existed for roughly two years at least.

Incompatible Browser | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2425101550&topic=4243#topic_top)

JonInMiddleGA
02-09-2010, 07:17 PM
Great. Now I can't even freaking comment on someone's post...

Okay, sounds like it's time to log out, maybe even reboot and see if that helps.

JediKooter
02-09-2010, 07:23 PM
Well if it's any consolation to you, that problem has existed for roughly two years at least.

Incompatible Browser | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2425101550&topic=4243#topic_top)

Yea, for some reason (I use Firefox) Facebook stopped allowing me to accept requests about 3 months ago, when I was perfectly able to before. Could be an updated version of Firefox screwed it up, not sure though. Thanks for the link.

Passacaglia
02-09-2010, 08:22 PM
I've got the new layout. One thing that annoys me about it is that the lower left corner tells me who of my friends are online, but I keep my chat window open on the lower right corner, so the same info is taking up a lot of space in two places on the screen.

Also, I routinely miss other people's status updates, in both layouts.

Izulde
02-09-2010, 10:22 PM
Did they take the notifications out? I can't find them.

Ronnie Dobbs2
02-09-2010, 10:23 PM
It's the globe right to the left of the search box.

Izulde
02-09-2010, 10:25 PM
Thanks. Kind of annoying having them there, especially since it wasn't lit up with the number of new notifications.

stevew
02-09-2010, 11:03 PM
My mobile Facebook is now screwed.

"no stream post available"

Wtf. And I hate it when I check this shit all the time. But then I never see friends update for months on end. I click on their page and they've been posting all along. This site is too annoying.

MikeVic
02-10-2010, 11:07 AM
Well I can't find the option to turn off things like "receive an update in news feed when a friend comments on a non-friend's items"...

Only thing I see for my Account settings is when to receive e-mail notifications for certain things, and that doesn't include the above item either. Oh and that appears to be broken too, since I had a wall post four hours ago and still no e-mail notification of it.

If I click on something like "Friend X commented on NonFriend Y's picture," it just gives me the option to hide Friend X... which is not what I want.

Rizon
02-10-2010, 11:12 AM
It's all pretty fucked up at the moment.

MikeVic
02-10-2010, 11:14 AM
With the old layout, I was able to drag what I wanted on my main page. I know I changed it from the default to something else that only showed what I wanted... and now I can't seem to drag a different main page option, which seems like lost functionality to me right now.

cuervo72
02-10-2010, 11:33 AM
Told y'all the new version was frustrating.

JonInMiddleGA
02-10-2010, 11:37 AM
Well I can't find the option to turn off things like "receive an update in news feed when a friend comments on a non-friend's items"...

Only thing I see for my Account settings is when to receive e-mail notifications for certain things, and that doesn't include the above item either. Oh and that appears to be broken too, since I had a wall post four hours ago and still no e-mail notification of it.

If I click on something like "Friend X commented on NonFriend Y's picture," it just gives me the option to hide Friend X... which is not what I want.

I think the current structure gives control of that to Friend X rather than to you.

Alan T
02-10-2010, 03:55 PM
Looks like Google is going to try to get into the "facebook/myspace" world. Just saw some advertisements for Google "Buzz" which looks to be pretty much the same exact thing as facebook minus the games.

JonInMiddleGA
02-10-2010, 04:06 PM
Looks like Google is going to try to get into the "facebook/myspace" world. Just saw some advertisements for Google "Buzz" which looks to be pretty much the same exact thing as facebook minus the games.

Yep, saw that yesterday. At first blush their advantage is having it built into Gmail, giving them an instant base as well as a way for some people to get around social media restrictions at work. After a few minutes of thinking about it I saw that as a potential downside as well, as you could pretty well kill the usefulness of a Gmail account by flooding it with Buzz stuff.

ISiddiqui
02-10-2010, 04:14 PM
Buzz is strange as most people I'd wager have their Gmail contacts as Facebook friends. The flooding the inbox is sucky too (though there is a work around - create a label:buzz and banish it from the inbox). It appears to be a low powered Facebook status update replicator. But a lot of people who may dislike all the games and quizzes, like the photos of facebook.

chadritt
02-10-2010, 04:32 PM
There is a button at the bottom of the screen marked "turn off buzz" but its really hard to find if you dont already know its there.

Passacaglia
02-10-2010, 04:56 PM
I checked out google buzz a little. It automatically had me follow some people (maybe everyone in my contacts who had already tried google buzz?). Then I added a few others. After a few hours, no one has posted anything.

ISiddiqui
02-10-2010, 05:30 PM
What you can do instead of just "turn off buzz" is go into "create a filter" by the search bar at top, then in "Has the words:" put "label: Buzz" and then at the next page, click "Skip the Inbox", so it'll go straight to archives.

I also have my Buzz linked with Twitter... so if I tweet, I update my facebook status and my Buzz status (but not the other way around). Works for me.

DaddyTorgo
02-10-2010, 08:13 PM
interesting thing i just verified - for those with 250+ friends...

passing this along.... did you ever wonder why you don't see news feeds from all your friends..well...this is from a friend..Facebook is blocking all of your friends' news feeds except the 250 they randomly choose. To Undo, From HOME page, select MOST RECENT then scroll to bottom of page, click "Edit Options" (bottom right side). Type 5000 instead of 250 for FB's maximum friend limit & your feed will work again.

Passacaglia
02-11-2010, 07:39 AM
It appears to be a low powered Facebook status update replicator. But a lot of people who may dislike all the games and quizzes, like the photos of facebook.

Seems more like a high-powered twitter to me.

Anyway, since no one I was following had any posts, I followed you to see if your old posts would show up on my feed. They did, so I guess no one I'm following has ever posted anything yet.