2010 NCAA Tournament (and NIT) Thread

[EagleFan]

What are the odds that Xavier and Cornell can pull these out?

I want K-State to lose and lose badly. Their coach looks like a serious a-hole...

[HeavyReign]

All the credit in the world to WVU. They forced us to play a game that was outside out comfort zone. IT was ugly but a win is a win

Agreed. Now I'm hoping Washington can somehow land Terrence Jones to slide into Pondexter's spot. If the rest of the team shows much improvement at all they could be very dangerous next year.

[Logan]

I want K-State to lose and lose badly. Their coach looks like a serious a-hole...

Whenever I see Frank Martin yelling, I can't stop picturing Vinnie Jones in "Eurotrip".

[TroyF]

I don't like Xavier's chances here. The officials are in hyper let em play mode. That fits perfectly into how KState wants to play. My favorite play during the 15 point run was the "block" KState had in the interior. The replay showed the first Wildcat defender jump into the guys chest and the second raking his arms. . . somehow both fouls were missed and the ball was out to KState. (That part of the call was right, because the ball did go off the Xavier player after both arms were mowed down)

I'd be interested to see KState play when the refs are calling a game tighter. As I type that I don't like their chances, Xavier goes on an 11-2 run to get back into the game.

[Swaggs]

I wonder if Washington expected Ebanks to guard Thomas? I was pretty surprised that they decided to go that route -- I thought he would match up with Pondexter. I'll be interested to hear the post game comments on it.

[Radii]

go go cornell! Is Noop the only non-kentucky fan on the board who doesn't hate Kentucky I wonder?

[kingfc22]

Love the atmosphere for this game. Hoping Calipari's squad goes down in flames. Guy is a scumbag.

[Swaggs]

The Cornell/Kentucky game is fun to watch. It looks like they have a ton of fans there and I suspect all the WVU and Washington fans are pulling for them, too.

[timmynausea]

I wonder if Washington expected Ebanks to guard Thomas? I was pretty surprised that they decided to go that route -- I thought he would match up with Pondexter. I'll be interested to hear the post game comments on it.

I don't know if anybody remembers, but I called that on FOFC. Ebanks is a great perimeter defender. A lot of WVU fans have been questioning how he thinks he can go pro. I say cause there aren't too many 6'9" guys that can guard elite perimeter scorers and rebound the way he does. His offense is a work in progress, but he is a pretty good ball-handler for his size as well.

[TroyF]

The officials really tightened it up in the KState/Xavier game. I'm happy they di because I want to see a good basketball game, but I think the KState contingent has a right to be upset. They changed the way the game was called in the middle of it.

[wade moore]

It's amusing how much this Kentucky/Cornell game is mirroring the W&M/UNC NIT game.

[Swaggs]

I don't know if anybody remembers, but I called that on FOFC. Ebanks is a great perimeter defender. A lot of WVU fans have been questioning how he thinks he can go pro. I say cause there aren't too many 6'9" guys that can guard elite perimeter scorers and rebound the way he does. His offense is a work in progress, but he is a pretty good ball-handler for his size as well.

I definitely remember -- good call! Ebanks on Wall, should they advance, could be interesting for his draft/leaving early prospects.

BTW -- Sweet Jesus! I just looked at the box score and realized that Ebanks had 8 turnovers w/ 6 assists. What an odd player.

[RainMaker]

Love the atmosphere for this game. Hoping Calipari's squad goes down in flames. Guy is a scumbag.
Same boat. Part of me would love to see more John Wall but I just can't fucking stand Calipari. Then again, these wins will all probably be vacated at some point anyway.

[mauchow]

This is not the samr Cornell team that beat the Badgers.. they just seem to be in awe of these high flying Wildcats.

[Atocep]

Good win tonight. People who hadn't watched WVU play prior to the tournament are probably a little underwhelmed, but WVU has consistently won playing this style of basketball.

Casey Mitchell is finally starting to get things. It's too late in the season to change his role much, but next year I really think he'll become the player he was expected to be when he arrived in Morgantown.

I love Joe Mazzulla and I expect him to end up on Hugg's staff at some point down the road.

I cringe every time Cam touches the ball. Love the guy to death and he's great for hustle plays, defense, and fouls but I want him as far away from the ball as possible.

[mauchow]

Watching this game kind of makes me mad. The refs did not allow the Badgers to play the physical defense that Kentucky is getting to play tonight. I don't know, nor do I care since it does not matter but it's worth mentioning. The refs were the same for the Badgers first round game, too, which they struggled due to light fouls being called.

Cornell IS just in complete awe of these athletes.

This game is pathetic, unfortunately.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I cringe every time Cam touches the ball. Love the guy to death and he's great for hustle plays, defense, and fouls but I want him as far away from the ball as possible.

I think you just described Stephen Pearl for the Vols.

[Galaril]

What are the odds that Xavier and Cornell can pull these out?

I want K-State to lose and lose badly. Their coach looks like a serious a-hole...

Whenever I see Frank Martin yelling, I can't stop picturing Vinnie Jones in "Eurotrip".

Wow, so Fran Dressler and Robert De Niro had a kid and that is what KS got man what a fucking Jersey cliche that guy is.

[Atocep]

A lot of WVU fans have been questioning how he thinks he can go pro. I say cause there aren't too many 6'9" guys that can guard elite perimeter scorers and rebound the way he does. His offense is a work in progress, but he is a pretty good ball-handler for his size as well.

People who only watch college basketball generally have a hard time understanding that NBA teams draft on potential in most cases. I've said it before, but Ebanks reminds me of Ron Artest. Artest had more offensive responsibility at St. John's than Ebanks does now, but their games are very similar at the same stage.

[wade moore]

I think you just described Stephen Pearl for the Vols.
yy

[Atocep]

I think you just described Stephen Pearl for the Vols.

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I'm willing to bet 90% of WVU fans saw what happens here coming as soon as he touched the ball. The funniest part of the whole thing was watching Kevin Jones and the other players on the bench try to hide their laughing as Huggs was screaming.

[kingfc22]

I hope CBS keeps me on the Xavier/KState game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm willing to bet 90% of WVU fans saw what happens here coming as soon as he touched the ball. The funniest part of the whole thing was watching Kevin Jones and the other players on the bench try to hide their laughing as Huggs was screaming.

Yeah, that reinforces what I was thinking. Now just imagine if that was Huggins son.

[Noop]

go go cornell! Is Noop the only non-kentucky fan on the board who doesn't hate Kentucky I wonder?

I love the way they play ball. They remind me of a team I coach two summers ago although I am nothing like their head coach.

[CleBrownsfan]

Unreal four point play! Good game here

[Swaggs]

Gus Johnson is on about a 9.5 out of 10 right now -- if this one goes down to the wire, his head may explode.

[sterlingice]

Awesome 4 point play by KSU :D

SI

[kingfc22]

Gus Johnson is on about a 9.5 out of 10 right now -- if this one goes down to the wire, his head may explode.

Love me some Gus Johnson.:D

[sterlingice]

Geez. Cornell with only 26 with 10 minutes to go in the game :(

SI

[CleBrownsfan]

my god - how many times have they had commercials this close to each other?!

[Swaggs]

Love me some Gus Johnson.:D

I have no idea how old he is (he might be 30 or he might be 50 for all I know), but I love the thought of him as an old fart still calling March Madness in this manner. Hope I live long enough to see it. :)

[Radii]

Gus Johnson is on about a 9.5 out of 10 right now -- if this one goes down to the wire, his head may explode.

thank god Gus is getting 2nd weekend games!

[Swaggs]

my god - how many times have they had commercials this close to each other?!

Every final 10-minutes or so in the past two weekends?

[sterlingice]

That is too funny. Tiger is back in all the Masters commercials now :D

SI

[kingfc22]

How does Kentucky only have 10 points this half?

[Swaggs]

thank god Gus is getting 2nd weekend games!

I feel like the only way that I could enjoy Gus more would be if they allowed him to get up when he gets excited and run around (and occasionally pull his shirt over his head like the Great Cornholio when he reaches his "max"). And, obviously they would have to televise it w/ the game, somehow.

[CleBrownsfan]

Best game of the tourney - IMO

[wade moore]

That is too funny. Tiger is back in all the Masters commercials now :D

SI
I noticed that too - especially because just a couple of weeks ago i remarked how he was conspicuously missing from the ads.

[Swaggs]

That is too funny. Tiger is back in all the Masters commercials now :D

SI

Were there any golf commercials while he was out? (Seriously?)

[DataKing]

DK,

This is awesome. "Nova Is the One" Priceless:)

PS-what is this clip from?

It's from Downfall, an excellent movie about Hitler's last days in the bunker in Berlin, told through the eyes of one of his secretaries.

[wade moore]

Were there any golf commercials while he was out? (Seriously?)

There were definitely Masters commercials before he announced he was playing it.

[wade moore]

So glad I stayed up to watch this!

[Neuqua]

Crawford has ice in his veins.

[Eaglesfan27]

So glad I stayed up to watch this!

Me too!

[Swaggs]

See -- Imagine Gus running up and down the aisles after that three! :)

[Noop]

Great game.

[Swaggs]

Crawford has ice in his veins.

Yeah... there has to be, at least, even odds that he nails a game-winning or tying three here.

[Emmett13]

Pullen and Clemente is a hell of a guard combo.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm enjoying listening to the crowd ooh & ahh on each make or miss.

[mauchow]

kentucky w 8 points in 15 minutes. impressive

[DataKing]

Watching the Xavier/K-State game, which is fantastic, but 8 points for Kentucky in 15 minutes of play?!?!?!

[kingfc22]

Oh man and now Cornell is making it close...

[wade moore]

kentucky w 8 points in 15 minutes. impressive

I'd love to see Cornell pull it off, but so unlikely at this point.

[wade moore]

and UK already stretches it back to 10.

[Swaggs]

Wonder if they foul?

[kingfc22]

Wonder if they foul?

At the wrong time though. WOW!

[wade moore]

BOOM GOES GUS'S HEAD!

(for later reference, the foul on the 3)

[Eaglesfan27]

He was fouled well before the shot.

[Lathum]

wow

[wade moore]

Give me a break - Clemente MAY have touched his jersey prior to the shot.

MAY...

[wade moore]

Ok, from that angle, I agree.

But I see them not call that in this situation all of the time.

[wade moore]

(UK up 12)

[DataKing]

Free basketball!

[Eaglesfan27]

OT! (I'm going to pay for it tomorrow.)

[kingfc22]

Clemente only got his jersey. Now if he would have bumped him more and impeded his path I can see the foul being called.

That foul call does not get called 100% of the time.

[RainMaker]

I don't think that was that bad of a no-call. Clemente needs to make that foul harder. It looks more like he sort of grabbed his jersey.

[wade moore]

OT! (I'm going to pay for it tomorrow.)
+1

This color guy is annoying me.

Seriously, that gets no-called all of the time. Heck, saw it in the earlier game where the defending team had to do that like 3 times before it was called.

In the end, Merriweather screwed up.

[Galaril]

He was fouled well before the shot.

I don't see the obvious foul in that play until the kid was in the air.

[Scoobz0202]

You see that same foul that Clemente did all the time when time is running out in games that are not a one possession game. They never call it.

At least they're consistent, I guess.

[DataKing]

Elmore is usually pretty good, but sometimes he dwells on things, and should just let it go.

And he just stole my line! :D

[Galaril]

I don't think that was that bad of a no-call. Clemente needs to make that foul harder. It looks more like he sort of grabbed his jersey.

Totally agree.

[wade moore]

And, fwiw, I think there was more of a foul by KSU on the rebound of the final shot while time was still on the clock.

Now, I know they're not going to call that, but just sayin'.. with all the bitchin this high-major homer is doing...

[Galaril]

+1

This color guy is annoying me.

Seriously, that gets no-called all of the time. Heck, saw it in the earlier game where the defending team had to do that like 3 times before it was called.

In the end, Merriweather screwed up.

The color guy is terrible.

[Swaggs]

+1

This color guy is annoying me.

Seriously, that gets no-called all of the time. Heck, saw it in the earlier game where the defending team had to do that like 3 times before it was called.

In the end, Merriweather screwed up.

Len Elmore. He is always grouchy, unless he is calling ACC games.

[RainMaker]

Gus Johnson more than makes up for the color guy.

[wade moore]

At least be consistent in lamenting the bad no-calls there mr elmore.

[Swaggs]

What an intense game. Geez!

[Galaril]

Gus Johnson more than makes up for the color guy.

True maybe he got a gag ball there he can put on that guy.

[kingfc22]

I just hope 3 balls keep falling because Gus goes bananas when they fall. :)

[Swaggs]

I'm guessing Cornell doesn't have a run left in them...

Was a neat story, with no athletic scholarships.

[wade moore]

I'm guessing Cornell doesn't have a run left in them...

Was a neat story, with no athletic scholarships.

I lived with a team that lived by the 3 and died by the 3. When you face a team that gets out on D like UK does, it makes for a LONG night.

[k0ruptr]

Xavier just will not die!

[Radii]

what a game!

[kingfc22]

Bad shot there.

[wade moore]

WTF?

How do you take a wild shot with 20 seconds left?!

[EagleFan]

I didn't know coaches were allowed to just walk on the court while play is going on...

[DataKing]

What are we up to now...5 OT games this tournament?

[Eaglesfan27]

WOW.

[DataKing]

Holy SH*T!!!

[wade moore]

um, wow.

[kingfc22]

Holy crap!!!!!!!!!

[Swaggs]

Gus is going to die of a massive heart attack tonight.

[k0ruptr]

JEEZ was that a 33 footer or what lmao

[EagleFan]

holy shit... what a shot

[wade moore]

I didn't know coaches were allowed to just walk on the court while play is going on...

Happens all of the time if you watch games in-person. Big Peeve of mine.

[JonInMiddleGA]

What area code was Crawford in when he shot?

[sterlingice]

Jesus this is fun!

SI

[Scoobz0202]

I want to inseminate my future wife with Jordan Crawford's semen.

[Radii]

I am just giddy watching this game... and watching Gus Johnson call this game. Amazing.

[k0ruptr]

Xavier just will not die!

and I repeat...

[wade moore]

I am just giddy watching this game... and watching Gus Johnson call this game. Amazing.

+111111111111111111111111111

[Swaggs]

Clemente actually got a pretty good look on that last shot.

[Neuqua]

Wow, just wow

[JonInMiddleGA]

Unless he gets 4 more late, this will be only the third time all season anyone held John Wall to single digits, the first two being blowout wins.

[Swaggs]

The refs appear to have checked out of this game.

[wade moore]

Did the refs lose their whistles?

[sterlingice]

Hand injury? The way he was bent over, it looked like his groin

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

The refs appear to have checked out of this game.

If they hadn't checked out at the end of regulation then it doesn't seem likely we're in overtime.

I wonder if someone at Buffalo Wild Wings didn't want to go home?

[wade moore]

If they hadn't checked out at the end of regulation then it doesn't seem likely we're in overtime?

Good point - if they call the foul on the KSU guy on the rebound of the final shot, Xavier is already in the Elite 8.

[MrBug708]

Oh PAC-10 refs

[Swaggs]

Indiana could have had Crawford and Ebanks on their team the past two years. Someone should check on Kodos and see if he's alright. :)

[EagleFan]

sweet play

[kingfc22]

Geez!

[Swaggs]

Every made three pointer is like an orgasm for Gus Johnson.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Every made three pointer is like an orgasm for Gus Johnson.

He must be a chick :D

[Eaglesfan27]

What an amazing game.

[wade moore]

It's worth the exhaustion and lack of focus tomorrow ;).

[mauchow]

not a whole lot of sense in that timeout

[Neuqua]

I wonder if someone at Buffalo Wild Wings didn't want to go home?

:lol:

[Karlifornia]

Fantastic game. Who will it be? Holloway or Crawford?

[EagleFan]

damn

[wade moore]

aw man - and that's probably it.

[kingfc22]

He nearly air balled that shot.

[Karlifornia]

LOL @ Len Elmore going with the correct version "Times-out"

[wade moore]

great game - sleep time.

[EagleFan]

I guess my response to that result is... Go Butler

[MizzouRah]

That was a GREAT game!

[sterlingice]

Definitely a great game :D

I'd be happy with whoever wins the KSU-Butler game winning the national title, but the odds are long.

SI

[Swaggs]

I wonder if KSU will have any legs left after that game.

It seems like a pretty unfair advantage for Butler, if they make the Final Four. On the other hand, it might also be a big distraction to have all the local hoopla.

[Pumpy Tudors]

Damn, that game might still be going if Xavier just had more times out.

[jbergey22]

Watching this game kind of makes me mad. The refs did not allow the Badgers to play the physical defense that Kentucky is getting to play tonight. I don't know, nor do I care since it does not matter but it's worth mentioning. The refs were the same for the Badgers first round game, too, which they struggled due to light fouls being called.

Cornell IS just in complete awe of these athletes.

This game is pathetic, unfortunately.

Kentucky went out and attacked them and took them out of their motion offense. Wisconsin just let them do as they wanted.

[CleBrownsfan]

sooooo tired... but definitely worth it.

[ColtCrazy]

Well, shoot. Living in Southern Indiana I was hoping for a Xavier-Butler Regional Final since they've become my adopted teams of the tourney with IU no where to be found.

X's Crawford is amazing shame they couldn't pull it off. Considering how great of a game plan Butler had against Syracuse, it'll be interesting to see what they have against what should be a pretty tired K-St. team.

Go Butler.

[Poli]

Going to the Tennessee game and I hope to stick around and watch the Northern Iowa game as well. It'll be hard to keep my brother entertained enough to stay there, though.

As I was talking to a friend last night after I bought the tickets, I realized this is the first time I have ever seen UT in person in any sport.

I'm stoked.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Going to the Tennessee game and I hope to stick around and watch the Northern Iowa game as well. It'll be hard to keep my brother entertained enough to stay there, though.

Get 'R Done then.

I realized this is the first time I have ever seen UT in person in any sport.

Dude, that just ain't right. I'm glad that oversight is being corrected.

[wade moore]

Get 'R Done then.



Dude, that just ain't right. I'm glad that oversight is being corrected.

I thought it was bad enough that I've never seen the football team in person ;). At least I've seen a few bball games!

[whomario]

Kansas State - Xavier game, whoa was that awesome :)

Looking forward to tonight allready though, out of the 16 teams left before yesterday the 3 that interest me most play tonight with Saint Mary´s, Norther Iowa and Ohio State.

It will be interestin if Baylor plays a lot of zone or adjust, cause on paper Saint Mary´s seem pretty well prepared to answer that. Even Samhan does a good job getting into open space in between defenders and then you have Allen who´s really good at making plays from the high post/foul line area and of course there are those great shooters in the backcourt.

Samhan seems like a great, great kid btw from what has been floating around the web theese last few days, very fun and relaxed demeanor off the court.

Hope they can keep this "aw chucks, let´s just play our thing" attitude up when Baylor takes it´s first blow at them and with the atmosphere in Houston.


I´m reluctant to declare Norther Iowa the favourite, but definetily kind of expect another win with Lucas out ...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

For those that enjoy the awesome otherwise know as Gus Johnson........

Gus Johnson Soundboard -2010 NCAA MARCH MADNESS- (http://www.gusjohnsongetsbuckets.com/)

I think I'm going to run a meeting today by clicking only on the phrases on this webpage.

[spleen1015]

For those that enjoy the awesome otherwise know as Gus Johnson........

Gus Johnson Soundboard -2010 NCAA MARCH MADNESS- (http://www.gusjohnsongetsbuckets.com/)

I think I'm going to run a meeting today by clicking only on the phrases on this webpage.

Click Bucket over and over.

Funny shit.

[Radii]

For the Samhan fans, the first ~10-12 minutes of Bill Simmons latest podcast was a conversation/interview with Omar himself. Nothing super insightful, but if anyone is interested...

Bill Simmons - The Sports Guy - Page 2 - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/simmons/) is probably the best way to get to it, top right of the page.

[Eaglesfan27]

sooooo tired... but definitely worth it.

Today was absolutely brutal and I'm wondering if I'm going to make it up through all of the games tonight, but it was worth it.

[Poli]

LET'S GO VOLS!!!! Sang my first Rocky Top and I am a 98 on a scale of 10 as far as excitement!!!! My first UT experience!!!!!!!!!!

[sterlingice]

Enjoy the game :D

SI

[Poli]

Just realized I've been a fan for 20 years. It's been a long time coming!!

[jbergey22]

Taking Ohio St/Tenn over 135
and Baylor -4.5 tonight.

I think Tennessee could shock Ohio State.

[Poli]

Let's do this!!!

[Poli]

Woooooooo!!!!!!!!

[whomario]

that zone is mighty interesting by Ohio. Turner is amazing. I´m more and more convinced he´s actually going to be a bonafide star in the NBA, Roy-level at least.

[jbergey22]

Doesnt Tennessee press any more?

Cant think of a better time to use the press than to get the ball out of Turners hands.

[DataKing]

/me is rooting for UT, partially because of Poli, and partially because I just plain hate Ohio State.

[rowech]

that zone is mighty interesting by Ohio. Turner is amazing. I´m more and more convinced he´s actually going to be a bonafide star in the NBA, Roy-level at least.

I will compare to Turner to who I do every time I see him play....Scottie Pippen.

[timmynausea]

Tennessee is playing great D.

[DataKing]

That OSU zone was way to spread out at the beginning of the game...they're going to have to pack it in or abandon it altogether.

[whomario]

boy does McConnell have range or what ? Took that several foot behing the line like nothing.

[DataKing]

WTF does "Pre-Family Resource Management" mean?

[whomario]

Saint Mary´s looks clueless against this zone ... :(

[kingfc22]

The rims in Houston seem very tight. Not many soft bounces coming off of missed shots.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UT & tOSU may not be a Heavyweight fight, but it's a pretty good middleweight bout so far.

[wade moore]

Taking Ohio St/Tenn over 135
and Baylor -4.5 tonight.

I think Tennessee could shock Ohio State.

So, uh, I think you're ok on both of these.

[RainMaker]

WTF does "Pre-Family Resource Management" mean?
NBA

[JonInMiddleGA]

I've been a big supporter of what Stephen Pearl gives UT when he's on the floor this year but he's gotta come outta there tonight, he's not doing anything good at all.

[jbergey22]

So, uh, I think you're ok on both of these.

Im hoping. The scoring in Tenn and Ohio State has slowed down a bit.

[DataKing]

NBA

Yeah that's what I figured. Stands for "how to spend all that scratch you're gonna make in the NBA until a baby-mama or two come along."

[Poli]

Go Vols!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wade moore]

Poli - you guys are way outnumbered there, right?


Huh - just realized these are CAA refs.

[k0ruptr]

geez 52 - 17 is the Baylor St. Marys score. OUCH

[JonInMiddleGA]

WTF does "Pre-Family Resource Management" mean?

Heh, I had to go look that up. Looks like it's something that could end up being anything from a move toward financial planning to credit counseling to corporate p.r.

[cuervo72]

WTF does "Pre-Family Resource Management" mean?

NBA

Ahh...my guess would have involved beer money.

[sterlingice]

WTF does "Pre-Family Resource Management" mean?

Who had that major?

Sounds a lot like one of those "sports player majors". If more than 1/4 of the basketball and football teams have it, then it's basically the university-sanctioned-looking-the-other-way-athletes-watch-tv-for-college-credit major.

SI

[DataKing]

Evan Turner.

NBA makes sense.

[sterlingice]

Hey, I was right:
Ohio State football and majors | Cleveland Sports Archive Site - cleveland.com (http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2007/08/ohio_state_football_and_majors.html)


There are 59 players who get their own page in the OSU media guide. Of those players, 21 are listed as undecided, with seven of them entering their junior academic years and 14 of them entering their sophomore academic years.
That leaves 38 with declared majors. Here's that breakdown:


7 Family Resource Management
7 Communications
5 Business Administration
4 Business
3 Sport and Leisure Studies
3 Consumer Affairs
2 Finance
2 Human Development and Family Science
1 each African-American Studies; Social and Behavorial Sciences; History; Political Science; Health Science


SI

[wade moore]

Yup - definitely CAA refs.

Some pretty bad officiating (against both teams) in the last few minutes.

[Swaggs]

Off topic from tonight, but I was talking to my friend in North Carolina and we were discussing whether or not UNC would hang a banner for winning the NIT (if they do). I thought they would, but he said it would be embarassing for them.

[sterlingice]

This is why Sasha Kaun was one of my favorites at KU: " He graduated with a degree in computer science and was selected to the Academic All Big 12 Basketball Team three times, in 2006, 2007, and 2008."

SI

[wade moore]

Off topic from tonight, but I was talking to my friend in North Carolina and we were discussing whether or not UNC would hang a banner for winning the NIT (if they do). I thought they would, but he said it would be embarassing for them.

I think they'd hang it for a win.

They won't hang one, like W&M will, for making the NIT.

[DataKing]

This is why Sasha Kaun was one of my favorites at KU: " He graduated with a degree in computer science and was selected to the Academic All Big 12 Basketball Team three times, in 2006, 2007, and 2008."

SI

Christian Moody. Pre-Med IIRC.

[sterlingice]

I can't speak to the pre-med, which I'm sure is a tough program but I have that Comp Sci degree and I don't see any of those teachers going light on him for being an athlete. A lot of my teachers, as most at KU, like the basketball team but a lot of them are hardasses, too.

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Vols have got to play under control on defense, they're killing themselves by getting lured into gambling.

[DataKing]

Surprised both coaches were letting them play there. A lot of timeouts to burn on both sides.

[MrBug708]

It would be sad if the 3rd greatest program of all time ended up hanging an nit banner

[wade moore]

come on VOLS!!!

[DataKing]

Nice!

[wade moore]

Good old Rocky Top, Rocky Top Tennessee!!!!

[RainMaker]

That initially looked like a foul on the desperation 3 but on the replay it looks like a good call.

Another great game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Swiperboy (aka Renaldo Woolridge) "going off like Big Wayne's headband"

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[bhlloy]

Surprised both coaches were letting them play there. A lot of timeouts to burn on both sides.

Yeah I was very surprised OSU didn't take a timeout. Pretty poor play by Matta made even worse when you consider they didn't get a good shot. I don't understand why you don't set your offense up right there.

[Poli]

Yes!!!!!!!!

[Poli]

Wade not sure my post about the crowd made it thru. Lot more orange than red here. Cameras were just above the majority of the big orange crowd!!!

Man I couldn't stop shaking in that last 12.9!!!!!

[Poli]

And I have no voice whatsoever!

[Poli]

Battery low or I'd be celebrating more. Rooting for UNI!

[RainMaker]

I actually think UNI is more dangerous than Michigan State.

Congrats on the win. Usually root Big 10 but have a hatred toward Ohio State. They have the douchiest alumni in the city.

[wade moore]

Wade not sure my post about the crowd made it thru. Lot more orange than red here. Cameras were just above the majority of the big orange crowd!!!

Man I couldn't stop shaking in that last 12.9!!!!!

Good to hear, TVs showed a lot of Red.

GO VOLS!!!

[miami_fan]

Yeah I was very surprised OSU didn't take a timeout. Pretty poor play by Matta made even worse when you consider they didn't get a good shot. I don't understand why you don't set your offense up right there.

For the same reason Michigan State received kudos for not taking one last weekend. Matta did not want to give the Vols a chance to set their D up. This time it did not work.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Will "The Miracle In Missouri" be a step toward even bigger things? ... first time in school history that UT has broken through the 16 ceiling. How much more can this team get done?

[panerd]

Local CBS is showing the Northern Iowa/Michigan State game with no ties whatsoever to either school (St. Louis has some big ten ties but Purdue would nulify that one) just because it is being played in St. Louis. Luckily I have the tv package and can watch the other game. I know there are a lot of fans of Cinderella's that will somehow be more interested in Northern Iowa but here are two teams that were ranked #3 and #5 just two weeks ago. Unbeleievable that the rest of my area doesn't get to see this game. There have to be more true basketball fans than feel good story followers.

[Karlifornia]

Local CBS is showing the Northern Iowa/Michigan State game with no ties whatsoever to either school (St. Louis has some big ten ties but Purdue would nulify that one) just because it is being played in St. Louis. Luckily I have the tv package and can watch the other game. I know there are a lot of fans of Cinderella's that will somehow be more interested in Northern Iowa but here are two teams that were ranked #3 and #5 just two weeks ago. Unbeleievable that the rest of my area doesn't get to see this game. There have to be more true basketball fans than feel good story followers.

"True basketball fans" LOL. How sanctimonious!

[DataKing]

And I have no voice whatsoever!

As it should be. :D

[wade moore]

"True basketball fans" LOL. How sanctimonious!

YY.

I've loaded up MMOD because my local CBS stuck me with Duke/Purdue.

[panerd]

"True basketball fans" LOL. How sanctimonious!

Both Duke and Purdue have NBA talent. No question all four teams play well. Why wouldn't I want to see the game between the two teams with the most talented players? It's no matter to me because I can watch both but during no other time in the year would somebody want to watch a top 20 team play against a mid-major when two top 10 teams are playing. It's because of the tournament that the game is interesting. So I say fine but I would be more entertained by the quality of the two top 10 team game and that doesn't make me sanctimonious at all. (Just like almost everyone would be if this were the choice in February)

[wade moore]

It's no matter to me because I can watch both but during no other time in the year would somebody want to watch a top 20 team play against a mid-major when two top 10 teams are playing.)
O RLY?

[panerd]

YY.

I've loaded up MMOD because my local CBS stuck me with Duke/Purdue.

You also thought that people were just as interested in North Carolina's NIT game against your team than the NCAA tournament games. Shit I know that me and MBBF are the same way with Mizzou but that doesn't mean that people actually would rather watch Mizzou play a mid major than Duke and another top team.

[wade moore]

You also thought that people were just as interested in North Carolina's NIT game against your team than the NCAA tournament games.

Please show me where I ever said or implied this.

[panerd]

O RLY?


Yes I am absolutely certain. Otherwise the national CBS wouldn't be showing the Duke/Purdue game to like 90% of the country. Obviously they get better ratings from Duke/Purdue. So the local CBS genius has decided that people's interest here in St. Louis is somehow higher than the rest of Missouri and bordering Illinios just because the game is being played in town. Wow, would love for JIMGa to explain how this could possibly be true. (hey there's where I sat once for a Ram's game that makes this game so much more interesting)

[panerd]

Please show me where I ever said or implied this.

Face it you are a fan of the small school because you root for one. But more people enjoy watching two big programs play. If what you were saying were true than the local station would be carrying the Purdue game.

[wade moore]

Yes I am absolutely certain. Otherwise the national CBS wouldn't be showing the Duke/Purdue game to like 90% of the country. Obviously they get better ratings from Duke/Purdue. So the local CBS genius has decided that people's interest here in St. Louis is somehow higher than the rest of Missouri and bordering Illinios just because the game is being played in town. Wow, would love for JIMGa to explain how this could possibly be true.

I was specifically addressing this comment:

during no other time in the year would somebody want to watch a top 20 team play against a mid-major

I completely agree that more people would watch Duke/Purdue in the regular season.

But you essentially said no one would rather watch a top 20 team vs a "mid-major" (which I would say a very good mid-major that spent time in the top 25) - that's simply not true.

[wade moore]

You also thought that people were just as interested in North Carolina's NIT game against your team than the NCAA tournament games.

Please show me where I ever said or implied this.

Still waiting.

[wade moore]

Face it you are a fan of the small school because you root for one. But more people enjoy watching two big programs play. If what you were saying were true than the local station would be carrying the Purdue game.
As mentioned above - you clearly have no idea what I'm saying.

[sterlingice]

Apparently Duke b(r)ought some ACC refs tonight

SI

[sterlingice]

Still waiting.

Between dubious unhealthy eating claims and maligning mid majors, you've been a bit saucy this week, wade ;)

SI

[wade moore]

Between dubious unhealthy eating claims and maligning mid majors, you've been a bit saucy this week, wade ;)

SI

Yeah, so it goes sometimes... Generally it can be mapped to bad weeks at work ;).

[panerd]

Don't care that much. Made a passing comment about St. Louis executives somehow thinking the game being in St. Louis makes it a more attractive game and explained why I felt that wasn't true. You said your points and I understand your points and don't really need to discuss it more. It's not like I am that passionite about this issue I have the Duke/Purdue game on my tv right now.

[DataKing]

The Duke/Purdue game is some fugly basketball so far.

[wade moore]

Don't care that much. Made a passing comment about St. Louis executives somehow thinking the game being in St. Louis makes it a more attractive game and explained why I felt that wasn't true. You said your points and I understand your points and don't really need to discuss it more. It's not like I am that passionite about this issue I have the Duke/Purdue game on my tv right now.

Well, your passing comment included basically a stab at anyone that would rather watch the UNI game. That they weren't "true basketball fans", so it wasn't just a passing comment about CBS in St. Louis.

And then somehow you managed to follow it up with a completely unfounded stab at my fandom of W&M that you have yet to explain or give any justification for.

So - excuse me if I came out a bit insulted.

[Karlifornia]

Yes...Purdue and Duke have a ton of NBA talent on their rosters...oh..wait..no they don't.

nbadraft.net has a whopping ZERO players from either teams in their complete mock draft.


"But, wait, Karlifornia! What about the 2011 draft?"

Well, Duke has three guys projected to be drafted. One is still in high school, and the other two are second rounders. A number of second rounders equaled only by...Michigan State!

[panerd]

Well, your passing comment included basically a stab at anyone that would rather watch the UNI game. That they weren't "true basketball fans", so it wasn't just a passing comment about CBS in St. Louis.

And then somehow you managed to follow it up with a completely unfounded stab at my fandom of W&M that you have yet to explain or give any justification for.

So - excuse me if I came out a bit insulted.

I don't really know anyone on this board very well but I still know that you are a big fan of William & Mary and the Colonial conference. (And one could than theorize, the "Mid-major Cinderella") So that would skew your opinion a bit. That is why I brought up your teams. You are definitely not the typical fan. (load one of those CBS coverage maps if you want to see this for yourself.) I don't care that much because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense what you are arguing about.

[Dr. Sak]

Don't mind Wade, he just has had a lot of sand in his girl parts lately.

[wade moore]

I don't really know anyone on this board very well but I still know that you are a big fan of William & Mary and the Colonial conference. (And one could than theorize, the "Mid-major Cinderella") So that would skew your opinion a bit. That is why I brought up your teams. You are definitely not the typical fan. (load one of those CBS coverage maps if you want to see this for yourself.) I don't care that much because it doesn't make a whole lot of sense what you are arguing about.

I'm arguing about you claiming that:

a) I'm not a "true basketball fan"
b) that I, "You also thought that people were just as interested in North Carolina's NIT game against your team than the NCAA tournament games."

Both I take as direct insults to me and my specific sports intelligence.

[jbergey22]

Im impartial to any of the teams and I know Id rather watch UNI/MSU cause I knew that would be a good game while Duke/Purdue is going to be all Duke. I know a lot of people would be interested in the Duke/Purdue game if they thought Duke would lose but I just dont think many people think that.

[DaddyTorgo]

the xavier loss last night was heartbreaking. they were so close.

UNI looking like they're for real tonight. although i'm sad that st. mary's lost while i was on my travels

[panerd]

Yes...Purdue and Duke have a ton of NBA talent on their rosters...oh..wait..no they don't.

nbadraft.net has a whopping ZERO players from either teams in their complete mock draft.


"But, wait, Karlifornia! What about the 2011 draft?"

Well, Duke has three guys projected to be drafted. One is still in high school, and the other two are second rounders. A number of second rounders equaled only by...Michigan State!


I will put money that Dejuan Johnson and E'Twan Moore play in the NBA. Wish to take that bet? Would that not be "NBA" talent? (Meaning they havbe more talent than most student athletes. They can actually make a career out of basketball.)

[wade moore]

the xavier loss last night was heartbreaking. they were so close.

UNI looking like they're for real tonight. although i'm sad that st. mary's lost while i was on my travels

I've seen UNI play a few times this season.

They are a legit team and play what I think is a very entertaining brand of basketball.

[Dr. Sak]

I will put money that Dejuan Johnson and E'Twan Moore play in the NBA. Wish to take that bet? Would that not be "NBA" talent? (Meaning they havbe more talent than most student athletes. They can actually make a career out of basketball.)

Yeah and I think if Hummel makes a recovery he has a chance to make a team ala Luke Walton.

[sovereignstar]

True basketball fans probably don't sit on a fucking message board arguing with each other right in the middle of the games.

God damn nincompoops I tell ya.

[Dr. Sak]

With all the bricks being thrown up in the Duke/Purdue game, the folks at Habitat for Humanity have to be salivating.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Yes I am absolutely certain. Otherwise the national CBS wouldn't be showing the Duke/Purdue game to like 90% of the country.

By population but not by territory, at least not according to this map (http://www.hdsportsguide.com/news/2010/friday-sweet-16-coverage-map-930-pm/) About half the Big 10 areas got UNI-MSU, as Missouri, Kansas & Nebraska. Matter of fact Illinois is the only state that borders Iowa not slated to get that game.


So the local CBS genius has decided that people's interest here in St. Louis is somehow higher than the rest of Missouri and bordering Illinios just because the game is being played in town. Wow, would love for JIMGa to explain how this could possibly be true.

Although I think proximity to Iowa probably dictated the coverage in Missouri more than anything else, there is a pretty consistent pattern in every sport I can think of for events taking place in an area drawing better ratings than they do nationally no matter who is playing. You see it with minor bowl games, you see it with the NCAA tournament, you see it with NASCAR (in some markets, not all), you see it with golf most weeks, hmm I don't think I can say I've ever checked tennis.

(hey there's where I sat once for a Ram's game that makes this game so much more interesting)

Silly as it sounds there does seem to be some of that happening on a regular basis, although I'd say it might be a function of increased hype for an event in a host market more than anything else. And in this case I don't know that it was the major factor in determining who got what game.

[B & B]

God damn nincompoops I tell ya.


Good stuff.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Incidentally, both my wife & mother-in-law are upset with the Duke game being shown in Atlanta since they wanted to get a better feel for UNI-MSU in preparation for Sunday's Elite 8 game.

[wade moore]

Incidentally, both my wife & mother-in-law are upset with the Duke game being shown in Atlanta since they wanted to get a better feel for UNI-MSU in preparation for Sunday's Elite 8 game.

Btw- do you know when tip-off will be? I have an impossible-to-avoid conflict in all likelihood :(. (DVR to the rescue!)

[wade moore]

One hell of a block by Barlow!

[timmynausea]

I will put money that Dejuan Johnson and E'Twan Moore play in the NBA. Wish to take that bet? Would that not be "NBA" talent? (Meaning they havbe more talent than most student athletes. They can actually make a career out of basketball.)

DraftExpress.com currently has Johnson as the 2.6 pick in the 2011 draft, Hummel as 2.30 in 2011, and Moore (and Kramer) not making the cut.

[Dr. Sak]

Sunday's schedule won't be out till after these last two games.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Btw- do you know when tip-off will be? I have an impossible-to-avoid conflict in all likelihood :(. (DVR to the rescue!)

What Dr. Sak said AFAIK, we probably won't know until tomorrow.

[wade moore]

It pretty much conflicts for me anyways. If it's like a 7:00 tip I'd miss the first 10ish minutes, but I think they generally have earlier games on Sunday. And yeah.. unavailable from like 1:00 until 7:15ish or later.

[ColtCrazy]

Looks like it'll be a bad night for the Big Ten.

The one time, as an IU fan, I decide to back Purdue and they look horrible. I realize it's a one point game, but Duke played about as bad as you can. Can't expect that for another 20 minutes.

MSU was doomed without Lucas. Shocked to come home and see the OSU score.

[RainMaker]

Both Duke and Purdue have NBA talent.
Who is the NBA talent in that game?

[panerd]

Who is the NBA talent in that game?

From earlier... I will put money that Dejuan Johnson and E'Twan Moore play in the NBA. Wish to take that bet? Would that not be "NBA" talent? (Meaning they have more talent than most student athletes. They can actually make a career out of basketball.)


Make the bet if you don't think they will both play on an NBA team at some point. (I didn't say first round draft pick or NBA starter. I just said they still had enough skills in play in the NBA versus the Northern Iowa team who doesn't. That would equate to a little more talent, yes?)

[sterlingice]

True basketball fans probably don't sit on a fucking message board arguing with each other right in the middle of the games.

God damn nincompoops I tell ya.

:D

SI

[wade moore]

Who is the NBA talent in that game?

From earlier... I will put money that Dejuan Johnson and E'Twan Moore play in the NBA. Wish to take that bet? Would that not be "NBA" talent? (Meaning they have more talent than most student athletes. They can actually make a career out of basketball.)


Make the bet if you don't think they will both play on an NBA team at some point. (I didn't say first round draft pick or NBA starter. I just said they still had enough skills in play in the NBA versus the Northern Iowa team who doesn't. That would equate to a little more talent, yes?)

Speaking of being sensitive...

I believe RM was making a little bit of a joke based on the quality of play in the 1st half of the Duke/Purdue game.

[panerd]

True basketball fans probably don't sit on a fucking message board arguing with each other right in the middle of the games.

God damn nincompoops I tell ya.


Not sure where I implyed that I was a true basketball fan. I watch the non-Mizzou games because I gamble on them. (Hence I buy the sports package) I enjoy the buzzer beaters that don't effect my bets and watching good games but I am not the true fan I was referring to. I can be on a couple of message boards, watching the game, and playing online poker so I wouldn't say my main focus is on the game. So touche to your message board comment I guess.

[sterlingice]

Not sure where I implyed that I was a true basketball fan. I watch the non-Mizzou games because I gamble on them. (Hence I buy the sports package) I enjoy the buzzer beaters that don't effect my bets and watching good games but I am not the true fan I was referring to. I can be on a couple of message boards, watching the game, and playing online poker so I wouldn't say my main focus is on the game. So touche to your message board comment I guess.

Dude, you did kinda say:

Local CBS is showing the Northern Iowa/Michigan State game with no ties whatsoever to either school (St. Louis has some big ten ties but Purdue would nulify that one) just because it is being played in St. Louis. Luckily I have the tv package and can watch the other game. I know there are a lot of fans of Cinderella's that will somehow be more interested in Northern Iowa but here are two teams that were ranked #3 and #5 just two weeks ago. Unbeleievable that the rest of my area doesn't get to see this game. There have to be more true basketball fans than feel good story followers.

And then proceeded to talk about how much better the Duke/Purdue game is. I think the implication is kindof there, right?

SI

[panerd]

Speaking of being sensitive...

I believe RM was making a little bit of a joke based on the quality of play in the 1st half of the Duke/Purdue game.

Again. Not sure why you are looking for an arguement from me. I must come across as abrasive which isn't my intention. I guess I must have been wrong about my St. Louis thing, JIMGa works in the field and would know more than I do. No big deal.

[panerd]

Dude, you did kinda say:



And then proceeded to talk about how much better the Duke/Purdue game is. I think the implication is kindof there, right?

SI


I was feeling bad for the local St. Louisians for having to watch Michigan State and Northern Iowa of which I have absoluetely no interest (outside of MSU -4.5 :) ) I would think the fans would want Duke vs. Purdue but I guess I am wrong. (Again, I have the directv package. So I can watch either game.)

[wade moore]

Again. Not sure why you are looking for an arguement from me. I must come across as abrasive which isn't my intention. I guess I must have been wrong about my St. Louis thing, JIMGa works in the field and would know more than I do. No big deal.

Hrm.. you don't see how you've been abrasive?

You took multiple shots at me, and then didn't address it when asked to justify them.

Then you repeatedly implored someone to "make a bet with you" the last time when someone was making what was an obvious joke?

Idano - maybe it's me, but based on others posting I think it's pretty clear that you are being abrasive - even if I'm overreacting to the abrasiveness.

[jbergey22]

I was feeling bad for the local St. Louisians for having to watch Michigan State and Northern Iowa of which I have absoluetely no interest (outside of MSU -4.5 :) ) I would think the fans would want Duke vs. Purdue but I guess I am wrong. (Again, I have the directv package. So I can watch either game.)

You got jobbed. That line was a PK at game time.

[panerd]

You got jobbed. That line was a PK at game time.


Yeah mixed it up with the earlier game's lines. I got MSU -1. :)

[sterlingice]

So, that seems to imply that Lucas being out is worth 4.5 in the game, right?

SI

[jbergey22]

Yeah mixed it up with the earlier game's lines. I got MSU -1. :)

OK good. I was concerned your bookie was screwing you.

[Karlifornia]

True basketball fans probably don't sit on a fucking message board arguing with each other right in the middle of the games.

God damn nincompoops I tell ya.

Wait...what are you doing? Posting by telekinesis? Go fuck yourself.

[Radii]

I've loaded up MMOD because my local CBS stuck me with Duke/Purdue.

You live in Virginia, I assume you get ACC games above everything but local small shools in the tournament, no?

edit: I know for example, I would get say, Florida State before I would get South Carolina where I live. But I would probably get ECU over FSU.

[wade moore]

You live in Virginia, I assume you get ACC games above everything but local small shools in the tournament, no?

edit: I know for example, I would get say, Florida State before I would get South Carolina where I live. But I would probably get ECU over FSU.

Of course, it's completely logical WHY I'm getting it, I wasn't the one trying to argue I should have a different game than I do ;).

Honestly - I was trying to make a bit of a joke.

Now, I would say that at this point they should be switching to UNI/Mich St.