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Young Drachma
07-12-2015, 04:21 PM
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628506999943/154FE93EAB3366B7CD8C19D9A5099ADD7FE7E594/

Decided to start building in the coastal city that I've christened "Nueva Serena" The city has experienced a lot of growth over the past decade and now stands as one of the largest cities in the entire country at a population of 571,444 at the last census. The city's current growth rate is 4% per year.

I'm going to use this dynasty mostly for screenshot pics of the various neighborhoods and communities throughout the Nueva Serena area. Once we've done that, I'm probably going to work on various sports league dynasties that involve team(s) based in the city limits and the rooting interests around them.

It'll probably alternate between being an American city and being a city in my fictional Neloxian universe, depending on how I'm feeling and what game I'm playing. If it were an American city, it'd be the 32nd largest. As I float around the city, it has the absolute feel of a west coast city to me, kind of like an Arizona city that ends up finding itself on the Pacific Coast more than anything.

Anyway, I'm going to do some show and tell and then we'll see where it goes.

finkenst
07-12-2015, 08:51 PM
nice water pollution... more importantly, what map is that?

Young Drachma
07-12-2015, 09:05 PM
Cape County
The Cape County area is probably the most stable of the communities within Nueva Serena (NS from hereonout) with over 100k in residential population.

The area began as an industrial area and has increasingly commercial and residential over the past few decades thanks to oil and ore reserves in this area.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628507838185/C2A6251789CA0592F91C500B266DAE7E550EA923/

The two main cities are New Keyport and Victoria Beach, both with just over 50k in population apiece. The Pencil District is an old woodworking community that is rapidly becoming more residential but is currently unincorporated Cape County land. There has been talk of stadiums and resorts at different times which would truly transform the area even more, but NIMBYs have kept them out thus far.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628507838347/D9B5F514A1A2D8B4D6F876E961F098362C08E06A/

Talk of an airport near the Interstate 18 area which currently is not populated would also spur growth for the whole region, but right now is just a blueprint and little else.

For a sense of geography, you can see the Palm Bay area from New Keyport. The regional crime rate has been falling, but it's a lot higher in the core Palm Bay areas versus here in the Cape. Traffic in the region is pretty bad, so it keeps traveling hard and while we do have mass transit, it's not evenly distributed so people just opt to drive. That's changing though.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628507838493/F00311A250EA700215CB84013ACC8FAC95D4F381/

Young Drachma
07-12-2015, 09:06 PM
nice water pollution... more importantly, what map is that?

I'm working on that! I inherited this map though. I got it out of the workshop, I think it's called Sunshine Bay or something.

Young Drachma
07-12-2015, 11:38 PM
I sort of deliberately waited to fix some of the crime problems in the other cities until I can 1) name them and 2) figure out what I want to do with them. Not sure I'm in the mood for any massive reconstruction projects at the moment.

Next up, I'm going to go in and build an airport. We're also going to take a look at some locations for stadiums and see what we can place, because reading those FBCB dynasties are making me want to have a university here AND I want to simultaneously put a soccer team here in my Neloxian league at the same time. Either way, would like to start putting down roots in different parts of the map.

I went back in the map and decided that we're going to probably create a whole stadium development and residential complex over here.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628508304531/62613B6FD2A50679B2768B3439AE9EA4F71845BE/

Also I downloaded a mod that translate the populations to a "regional" population because the game does a terrible job of estimating populations relative to the way the size looks. So this is way better.

Using that tool, it says our regional population is 4.3 million people, the 14th largest metro area in the country. Equal to about the populations of both Riverside/San Bernardino and Phoenix/Mesa, which is sort of fitting because it's about what I pictured for this place except on the water.

Young Drachma
07-13-2015, 01:46 AM
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628508633699/CD5FB2FCA0AA44478A035BD935429EBA51CF66B2/

This is North Holly Beach and South Holly. They are about 85k in population and have been improving from being crime ridden. A recent resort was built along the Palm Bay and that's part of the revitalization but it's really just a wholesale investment in building more parks and such. It's a pretty urban place, mostly residential though there is some industry up the mountain and that's where most of the people work.

Traffic in this area is brutal along the interstate and we're trying to find ways to mitigate the impact it has on the neighboring towns, but it's not going so great so far.

Young Drachma
07-13-2015, 09:15 AM
So before I bother introducing you to my Football Manager save, since I'm just currently simming into the future with that anyway, I'm going to do some college recruiting from here.

I decided for simplicity sake to use Washington D.C. as the holding pen for the schools from here, since there are so few and it'll make it easier to add schools there.

My next step is to figure out where all of the high schools are in this city, name them and once we've done that, can add them to FBCB and start following some recruits to see how they do.

Geographically, Suriname is about the same distance from Miami as Los Angeles, so in a sense I'm achieving what I wanted in creating a "coastal city" but rather than western, it's more south.

bbgunn
07-13-2015, 10:25 PM
Awesome! I've thought a lot about getting Cities: Skylines.

Young Drachma
07-14-2015, 04:10 AM
Just north of the dam in Coleridge Plains, I decided that's where we'd put a baseball stadium and an arena. I'm a fan of the whole "downtown ballpark nested into the skyscraper landscape" thing, so I went for that here. Crime is down citywide, mass transit usage is up, as is the population.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628513029891/5EC758B9F177EC34F1183168285E0FE3C3F0E86C/

The wider area itself
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/456337628513030147/4D47EC18653CDE2060FA54C05472F89C49EEB53D/

There are currently 30 high schools in the region:
Forest View
East trinidad
Olin (Heartfield)
Stapleton
Hetburgh
Olive City
Parkway (Westpond)
Marine Park
James Baldwin (Coleridge Plains)
Homecrest
Southchester
Boulder
Thelonious Monk Performing Arts HS
Boardwalk City (Manatee Sands)
West Victoria
Keyport East
Keyport West
Victoria Beach
North Holly
South Holly
Keyport Science & Technology


PRIVATE
Robyntown Academy
Midburn School
Olive Beach Catholic
Silverwich Academy
St. Pius X
Victoria Christian
St. Elizabeth Catholic
Hollytown Catholic

I'm going to add them all to FBCB. I have no idea what I'll do after that. But...I am fascinated by the idea of doing something with it. We'll see.

bbgunn
07-14-2015, 08:01 PM
Wow, Coleridge Plains is becoming the Arlington of Nueva Serena.

Young Drachma
07-14-2015, 10:22 PM
I am trying to think of sports scenarios for different leagues at the moment and I'm drawing a blank. I'm about to introduce everyone to my Neloxian soccer league again, but for some reason, I'm fascinating with the basketball angle so we're going to at least set that up before I go any further.

I think I'm envisioning a scenario where we track players from N.S. from college to the pros out of HS. I have no idea what the incentive would be besides tracking them, at the moment, but I'll keep thinking.

Before I do that, we're going to use the USA Today HS basketball score predictor (http://usatodayhss.com/score-predictor/) to come up with a state boys championship. I have no idea why I care. But so it goes.

Actually, I have an even better simulator that'll simulate an entire season of HS basketball (http://nationalsportsrankings.com/index.php?option=com_dreamseason&Itemid=202) based on real life teams or whatever.

Young Drachma
07-16-2015, 01:55 AM
Okay so here's what I think we're going to do.

I'm going to test out a complete scouting dynasty. I'll bring in a class each year (which will include a least one recruit from Nueva Serena) of HS kids that we then track.

I'll do scouting on them and other players, do mock drafts and then go back to college and do it again. Ideally you would get interested and ask about guys pro careers and we'll follow some of those too.

So let's try.

Young Drachma
07-21-2015, 06:08 PM
I've given up all pretenses of using these maps for other purposes right now and will just use this dynasty to share with you stuff I'm doing on different maps I have. Because well I'm taking the screenshots anyway.

My latest city is based off a Louisville map. I've renamed it Churchill.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448456945060789486/D306ED145D36B2A18309906C2A13B8318AE7088C/

I've spent a lot of time rebuilding the mass transit situation which has improved traffic in the downtown area. But since I inherited this map, I'm dealing with a lot of the pre-existing issues that it came with. Which I prefer over just building the city myself from scratch perfectly, because these challenges are just interesting slash fun to deal with.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448456945060789880/DC9D75F06B366B96835A1E983867AB014F6638C4/

Here's a screenshot from University Heights, home to one of the two universities in Churchill. It's a small town with about 10,000 people.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448456945063850156/1CFF1D57D60CCA254E8B3DBBB0D97E5DDC26C5BF/

The rural town next to UHeights:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448456945063850599/A7E8B4C47863F9EE933E9309351ED75FA67D8E38/

Homewood Hills is a town due South of the downtown area and part of the Tucktown metro area. Tucktown is home to the theater district for Churchill anchored by Pavesi Square.

Homewood is a residential community which is adjacent to a major industrial ore operation, one of the big industrial businesses in Churchill.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448456945068249547/F3AF82DAEF373B88077EF99E747A141E91D4C396/

Here's some issues with traffic that I'm about to take a radical move to fix.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448456945068249348/9C922D15E0C6C9F231CD5B31FEF01B3F7F35D2A7/

In the mid-east part of the city (but on the map above, it's Southwest of downtown) we're going to actually relocate a major industrial district to a better part of the outer ring of the city.

Right now, Uptown, Parkwood, Stabletown and Old Bank City are really congested because there are so many businesses there which get deliveries.

It keeps people who work there unable to get to work and while we have slowly added Metro lines to that area, it's nothing like downtown and so, people opt to just drive to work there and while I've successfully cut down on downtown congestion, we've not been able to really fix it coming off the interstate and into the Upper South Side neighborhoods aforementioned.

So the radical solution is to essentially make a New Stabletown and a bunch of other neighorhoods for these businesses but with six-lane roads and better mass transit coverage (specifically subway access) so that the congestion isn't as bad and it's easy on/off access to/from the highway.

Plus it just feels weird to have a major commercial district so far from the main downtown area and I'd prefer to really build more housing in that area rather than resorting to suburban sprawl, so this seems like a better idea to me.

How will I do it? I haven't decided yet, exactly. But I'm about to figure it out.

muns
07-22-2015, 04:45 AM
This is beautiful. Great stuff here

finkenst
07-22-2015, 06:04 PM
on a related note... Anyone have recurring plagues for no reason in their cities?

Young Drachma
07-22-2015, 06:28 PM
on a related note... Anyone have recurring plagues for no reason in their cities?

You need to make sure you are taking care of the wastewater. Also make sure there are enough cemeteries and cremation spots because otherwise your dead people will rot in apartments and that's bad news for the people living around them.

If traffic is so bad that they can't come collect bodies, that could be causing your problems. Also plumbing issues with waste water and fresh water mixing which people ingest and then it kills them.

Young Drachma
07-22-2015, 06:33 PM
So I remade Uptown Churchill by replacing the commercial district that used to be in those neighborhoods. It will be moved to another area, but I haven't decided precisely where. I think we're probably going to create a new commercial district South of Downtown (SoDo) because it'll be too far from the real downtown to call it Lower Downtown like Denver's.

Here's the before and after shots of what we did last night with Uptown. What I dig about this is, if you picture the changes over a particular period of time, then you can imagine there are/were people who worked in Uptown back when it was purely commercial rather than residential and now people who live there who can talk about the days when Uptown and the associated areas were commercial only.

before
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457289851385984/EF549716C543660C139C48E97DDA65063CFA6C9E/


after
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457289851386127/2C87F1ECD4D765AB3417AF158A1FF4C132D27AEF/

Subby
07-22-2015, 08:52 PM
I'd like to see more bike lanes, tbh. :)

Beautiful pics.

Young Drachma
07-22-2015, 10:56 PM
I'd like to see more bike lanes, tbh. :)

Beautiful pics.

I wish the workshop had bike lanes and I would install them for sure!

You did give me an idea though and I went searching to see what people were doing, since I knew there were green cities out there.

Someone has a mod for walking paths that are elevated. I'm going to attempt to make them in the new commerce district I create and see if it works.

Thanks for the idea!

Young Drachma
07-22-2015, 11:04 PM
So these maps are a bit more descriptive of the various areas of the city.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457289853393852/0DE7E7C1AC183073D70E879EBB424B74E159D250/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457289853393215/8CA5F815FAED60FCBDB9FB3792DF9B43A84C7B06/


This is where I originally considered putting the new commerce "Sodo" district, but turns out, there's not really a good location for that.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457289853393460/2EAF9151FBBFD00878E427202A307BEA74EF4A2A/

But up here? North of Danishtown and east of the Pavesi Square and the Theater district? With PERFECT interstate access?

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457289853394065/2D00952B3C0D29891B1A958DF38BF2E50FAC21BF/

It's not South of Downtown, but it's far north of it.

I'm open to ideas for what to name this area. There will be other neighborhoods too.

At least one of them will be named the "City Market" district. Probably a North of Downtown district (NoDo) but besides that, other ideas welcomed for the other parts of what I imagine will be a decent sized set of districts that will be mixed-use commercial/residential. The idea here is that you could live and work in the same area to cut down on all of the traffic.

Young Drachma
07-24-2015, 06:08 PM
So I wanted to create the “sections of town” whether they are boroughs or just sections and the areas beneath are just neighborhoods with names that can change over time, etc.

These are the established areas anyway, there will be others but I haven’t done anything yet because they’ll need to be built out.

Next I need to do a list of all of the neighborhoods.


https://40.media.tumblr.com/197732550ba19ff179f23e417b9f54a3/tumblr_ns0llmRnjk1qzu02eo1_540.png

Subby
07-24-2015, 10:34 PM
Are you building these from the ground up?

Young Drachma
07-25-2015, 01:36 AM
Are you building these from the ground up?

Normally yes. But lately I've been downloading maps from other people that are prebuilt and then I remake what they did. But I don't have to rebuild the highways and redo ALL of the plumbing and shit because unlike SimCity, this game doesn't make any of that stuff easy (Aka you can't entirely cheat...) and so it can get tedious quickly.

But rebuilding existing infrastructure is a lot more fun and challenging.

Young Drachma
07-25-2015, 01:40 AM
Subby's question leads us to my recent situation. This city was way too commercial and had way too many skyscraping for my liking and so I wanted to fix it but didn't realize I could rapidly.

The game has a feature that lets you apply the tax rules or ordinances to individual districts or the entire city. So I put the no high rise rule on every district except downtown and so, the highrises came down and the city is gradually remaking itself. We do have fewer population because of the changes, but it'll eventually even out.

Compare these shots to the ones from above of the same city and you can see the difference. I'll do more details neighborhood stuff eventually, but every time I play I go in thinking I'M gonna do one thing and end up doing 30 other things.


http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570789404195/A9D858D46F58515FC47CE6427AB4184811D46FDA/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570789404058/E879349088D03399221815803D5278C66A1A037D/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570789403798/8227F5AD75F9E1576BD216C1465CF59048158F15/

Young Drachma
07-25-2015, 02:06 PM
Here's the view of Downtown Churchill all the way from the rural oil patch town of Byrnside.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570791448441/98916CAA031BC46211F8AC9DC625E8D03C5EE15B/

The city feels more like a real city now with the core downtown area and then residential and other industries on the outside. It also feels like it befits its size now because before with all of those skyscrapers it felt WAY larger than a city of its actual size in my mind.

I've been mostly spending my time lately tinkering with transit and building new communities in the hills that can generate income via oil, ore and agriculture since we have those deposits in the city. It's helped me relieve the tax burden in certain areas.

The high rise elimination in all but downtown and one other area initially decreased population by about 20k but we're now over 200k in Churchill proper and that's about 30k more than we were when I began making changes, so the changes to the commercial districts that I have yet to rebuild hasn't negatively impacted the city.

I'm building a lot of the outer ring cities at the moment, while also going into the interior to prune a bit. There was no subway access in some towns that I think would make good commuter cities, so I've begun fixing that and traffic snarls are down dramatically across the city thanks to the investment in mass transit.

Young Drachma
07-25-2015, 04:13 PM
Here's the flyover map of the entire city. It's grown more since this photo, but the areas are basically representative.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570791446872/1460C9277A7310FE0A1C53EAF778744E522FE44D/

My next step is going to be for me to do an entire listing of all of the neighborhoods and areas so far because otherwise it'll be too hard to keep up with whenever it's finally time. Maybe there is a mod for census.

Young Drachma
07-25-2015, 06:26 PM
Okay so I managed to get a list of all of the neighborhoods down.

Much like Louisville or Toronto, we've merged a bunch of smaller places into a big one.

Here's the breakdown so far. As I add/build new places, you can just assume they've always existed and we just didn't talk about them before.


CHURCHILL NEIGHBORHOODS
CENTRAL
Downtown Churchill
North Side
Danishtown
Plant District
Dominion Square

WEST CENTRAL
Marsey/Marsey University
North of Marsey
Roslyn
West Side

EAST CENTRAL
Backwater
Far North Side
Turkish Town
Little Jamaica
New Bank City
MKS Airport/Stevenstown

FAR RIVER
Homewood
North Tucktown
South Tucktown
Churchill Gardens (formerly Melodysburg)
Pavesi Square (Theater District)

BY RIVER
Bedside
North River
Governor Park
Expo Park
Winter Hills

NEAR RIVER
Shipchester
Damseltown
South Damsel
Havertower
Stadium City

INWOOD
Dean Park
East Side
Martine Park
Goodman Park
Irvington
Old Churchill
Parsonage Park
Upper East Side
Lanesark

KINGSTON
Belgiantown
Old Bank City
Eastgrove
Stabletown
Parkwood
Gregersen-Hyde
Uptown

OUTERBRIDGE
North by Uptown
South by Uptown

——————
COLLEGETOWN
University Heights
Port Levercott
Eastop
Springcrop

Churchill International Airport

SOUTHEAST ANNEX
Byrnside
Harbison
New Torrington

NORTHWEST ANNEX
Big Spruce
Winston Hole
Elm Park

NORTHEAST ANNEX
Obsidian Hills
Diamond
Forrest
Hermitage

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570791446676/43CACC6698F0932F6815D3AEE7897742C00E095C/

Young Drachma
07-25-2015, 06:33 PM
I am working on a parallel OOTP dynasty that I won't spam post here, but that'll take the different sections of town and allow me to create a citywide baseball championship. If I get motivated, I'll probably do the same thing in Football Manager for soccer but with a country that cannot make the World Cup.

It'll give me an excuse to show you each of the neighborhoods and to get more immersed in them, but I won't do that until I'm done building. We are close but not there yet.

Young Drachma
07-26-2015, 04:13 AM
Here's the latest view of Downtown Churchill. Notice has all of the giant buildings are gone relative to how it was before and the tallest buildings in the city are only downtown.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570793816658/7FB57E9E52681AA77EF7C9F130C8F77DFA5C572A/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 02:00 AM
WEST SIDE

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570801409049/03DE8EFC7EAAC379AE0DE30D86D214E41C8A9E33/

The West Side borders Turkish Town, Far North Side and Rinskyville (formerly Backwater).

Adjacent to Danishtown (That pink structure in the back corner is the Danishtown Casino) is the West Side, a residential neighborhood of several thousand people. The train runs through town, but there is no station there. There is several subway lines that run through the west side, too, but I don't think there is currently a subway station there. It also boasts a view of Blessed John Paul II Church.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570801408755/A905B3283DB23DC8EB608F6BCE4A7F80531DD26D/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570801408498/8B4EEF964A48781B6D16CC8554772BD90B8B27AC/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570801408151/F692ABC2F98999F16618DED831528B92A20F414E/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 02:26 AM
DANISHTOWN

Home to the Danishtown Casino & Danishtown Theater, the area is well known as an entertainment district and residential community. I ended up spending more time building today than taking photos, but I'll shoot more photos later that are more zoomed in.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570801409200/91F147EFC1EFDCF4642228C756E7210C0D608F1B/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 02:30 AM
Byrnside, an oil town and Huston, its commercial twin are far from downtown.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457570801409698/4A3FFFECECFD87ED5DA1C3D519627B0D7F9F55DB/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 11:18 PM
Copying this directly from the OOTP post, but you all won't get any baseball out of it.

Okay so here are a massive amount of updates as I went on a photo taking spree around town. It's a good thing because what's next is a building spree where I build the sister city to Churchill about 40-50 miles away.

First off, here's some facts. The entire map is available for me to build on, so it's a city of 156 square miles, which makes it larger than Baltimore, Charleston, Milwaukee, Seattle, et. al.

Population still hovering around 1.6 million, but there is much growth to come. When I stroll around, it feels like Denver or someplace like that. I can't really decide what state we're in.

I will be getting back to the baseball here shortly, too. But hard to really build a case for different neighborhoods until you've seen them and have a sense of their differences, etc. I'm going to work on that over the next few days to tell those stories.

In the meantime, I'm just going to introduce different parts of town. Churchill merged with the county surrounding it, so technically ALL of this is Churchill, but once there is a city big enough to rival it, they will break away.

For the purposes of our conversation, there are distinctions amongst people living here for what's "Churchill" and what parts of the city are not actually considered part of it for the people living in them. For instance, somebody living in Bedside would never tell someone they live in Churchill. Someone living in Byrnside or one of the mountain towns, would almost NEVER invoke the name Churchill even if a stranger had no idea where it was because they don't want to be associated with the big city, except maybe for their favorite sports teams.


West of Churchill city limits we have Forde, Talbot Slope and Castle Hill. Former forest mill communities, they are becoming residential.
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085381438/52A33A7CE2A50EC3A9A028FF8EA50106A8F95850/


Hennigan is a city in the hills with just over 1000 people. Has the distinction of being the only city in the region with legal weed.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085870052/41A0726817D2217D3E8A391701CC4A90A6079799/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085870404/5F5A601F0A3BD31A3377955EFE87F3E4B81048D7/

Downtown Churchill is a kind of urban paradise if you have money to live there. Not that there's even a lot to do there, it's almost all residential high rises.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085872823/444344E03F1CB41146EA4B37FABAE91B2DAB302E/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085873807/B074B7E4399AC80354AA26BB9FEDB7AD3DF99074/

Collegetown is surrounded by a few rural/industrial communities - Seamus, Dred Scott, Dorothilyn which had different names at the start of this dynasty (fyi) increasingly professor families are moving to these towns rather than commuting from the West Side of Churchill as prices increase there. Expect these towns to grow substantially in the next few years.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085947537/3236BEA74228A63F321B77F9ED29D3703302ED39/

Hilariously, the baseball stadium is in Rinskyville, which I forgot to take a photo of. So I'll have to get you that later.

Stay tuned for Part 2 of the photo diary.

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 11:20 PM
UPTOWN is as far as you can go basically and still be considered "in Churchill" to most people. It's an area that if you look at earlier maps, you can see was a lot more commercial and had HUGE traffic issues. Well now it's a purely residential neighborhood and I'm sort of mystified by how different it is, but it was a very good decision to switch it.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085930884/4B024F34D253585C1AC5C785179739759B375463/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 11:22 PM
201st is a street just beyond Uptown. Mostly full of college kids priced out of the city, but increasingly turning into a potential extension of that area.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085933958/967B00CE74AEECCFB59663C9E674AF5BF9FA9FFB/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 11:23 PM
COLLEGETOWN on the campus of Churchill University

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085949604/EA70EDA5179D83A127956A2B8FF11A32FC1C5E8B/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 11:26 PM
The newest development in the city right now are the extensions over at North and South Churchill called Small Island City. It's not on an island at all, but its adjacent to one.

There are about 8000 people living in these mixed use communities that were envisioned for people to be able to walk to work, eat, live and play in the same place. It's also home to a bustling transit station so people can get over to the side of the river for work via the subway.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085975902/84B604B0AE302DB94827F010EFAD752907CE8596/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911085978946/C52E6BF59B3666687ED3B5F5E1355ECC3704A273/

Young Drachma
07-28-2015, 11:58 PM
Obsidian Hills and Diamond are two old mining communities that have increasingly undergone change like the rest of the communities that are reeling from the growth of Churchill as an economic engine. Latter pic an aerial view of downtown from Obsidian.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086035594/898CCB9BE52835D90597024F3D7A98ADC6BB9A7B/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086049979/E762E9BCC34C61C69B9C0AAB0001048CE236CF72/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:01 AM
Pavesi Square/New Churchill is home to the city's theater district, separated by the river but easily accessible via Metro. This is the Greater Tucktown area, home to around 8000 people or so, which also includes Churchill Heights, the hottest section of town for people who want to live "in the city" but can't afford downtown or adjacent.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086107101/AD01A05ECFAA46AE146C4B9563CC34DCDC7C2E2C/

CHURCHILL HEIGHTS
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086065263/D026DC5BA7716586EAB9EBD24486405469F4183D/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:06 AM
Bedside was always an industrial suburb of Churchill, but these days more people are moving there fleeing high prices in the Churchill urban core.

It's one of about seven western suburbs of Churchill that provide easy access to the city, increasingly better transit service and good schools. They just have remnants of their industrial past which make them noisy and smelly depending on where you are.

BEDSIDE
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086130129/1BF6D85C89F093C8507178BB798462BA88AD3976/

You can see Midtown Churchill to the left in this photo of Bedside separated by the interstate highway.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086131496/1EFF51A0CBED0E00185140418D48351F54D84CC3/

South of Bedside are the other suburbs: North River, Lugarejo, Shipchester, Damelstown, South Damsel & Havertower.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086140929/F7B6C393829E2D9E0EA3614BB3076D96B525CA25/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:08 AM
Stadium City is due south of Downtown Churchill, about as far South as Uptown is East. It's attracting an interesting population of recent grads and working professionals due to its affordability, bars and restaurants thanks to the MLS stadium being there.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086158702/90730CC49D3235570957D753EA4CA925803F3848/

Stadium City isn't a suburb, it's an exclave part of Churchill.

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:10 AM
Another view of Downtown

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086201050/0A9D9D2E7CCD9F65061DC920BB62E27B47DAE4EB/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:36 AM
Arena Square isn't the official name of this area, it doesn't have a name at all. It used to be "Dominion Square" but that was really meant for only a small sliver of downtown. As this area has grown to include the NHL arena and Globe Park, it's growing fast, but there's no name for it yet.

Probably my favorite part of town right now.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086215812/6B217EDE9F0678389C4D5ACBA162A7B4E57EB60A/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:38 AM
DANISHTOWN is anchored by the Danishtown Casino (that pink thing)

It's home to about 1500 people and borders Turkish Town, Far North Side and Dominion Square where another 6000 people or so live. Kind of a touristy area for obvious reasons, but also upscale once you get into the Far North Side.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086217026/209CDD013BB2C4ECE1C5CFC218F39F8225920303/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:41 AM
WEST SIDE is west actually east of but who cares about directions, right? Anyway, it's located just a few blocks from the Uptown area and is home to neighborhoods like Goodman Park (home to the ferris wheel) and Parsonage Park, the city's largest park. Also contains the City Orchestra & St. John Paul The Great Church. In area with lots of culture, but also increasingly more families.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086233357/922579436C12A8254BA00EFC33713937FEBF53BB/

PARSONAGE PARK

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086254572/3F8188D58B7A9AD548BAB258B8A580AFE28A0539/

GOODMAN PARK actually relocated. It used to be a few blocks west of here, but when the park was built, the neighborhood was renamed and shifted north. And they added the ferris wheel.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086256685/C5F5B635B99456EA804E7DB0DE3336EF7556BC43/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:45 AM
RIO VERDE (425) is a community connected by bridges and a resort town far from the city. You can barely see the New Bank City towers from here (squint and you'll see them in the far left hand part of the photo.

The other towns here are Lake Montpelier (1480) and Kalkidian (875)

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086293419/72604D6A58AFD6A55BC35AB3F9169E41583E4C89/

KALKIDIAN
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086296798/2FB44DE99869F9B6EA59E3CF5667A6B532816C43/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:48 AM
TORRINGTON LAKE is a small city of 1200 people who thought coffee shops were overrated and just wanted to live by the lake quietly. It's next to the rural oil town of Pitchel.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086311225/980B21567D5506959C091B60A8C8441F2F94F22D/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:49 AM
Byrnside & Huston are twin towns that mostly cater to the oil industry and are the biggest oil cities in Churchill County. They're also a polluted mess.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086317000/4E75106DF9B5F8D2244507AC8290F17ABB7BFD21/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448457911086338207/FDEF567835AA80C3FE8E5B48361788DB3828A63F/

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 12:53 AM
Still a decent amount of the city I haven't shown yet, but I was exhausted cutting photos. We'll have to do more tomorrow, but that gives you a sense of some of the neighborhoods around Churchill.

finkenst
07-29-2015, 06:15 PM
are your neighborhoods/suburbs essentially connected via highways and mass transit only? For some reason, i tend toward the dense urban citybuilding but may try to build a suburb if they're viable.

Young Drachma
07-29-2015, 08:01 PM
are your neighborhoods/suburbs essentially connected via highways and mass transit only? For some reason, i tend toward the dense urban citybuilding but may try to build a suburb if they're viable.

Yeah that main highway you see in a lot of the photos goes in a circle all the way through the entire city/county. So the suburbs both out in the distance and adjacent to the city all have access via the highway and it's pretty much how I'm building those places.

I inherited the central city map for the most part, it's the sprawl that I'm responsible for and the highway already existing makes it a lot easier to do. This game makes it so much easier to do than past city builders because the map is just integrated and you can create districts at will.

And yeah, I expanded subway access pretty substantially when I took things over. There was not much infrastructure for that when I started, but we have buses and subway lines all over the area now. When I started less than 100 people a day were taking buses and subways combined. Now? We're at about 16000 a day and counting.

Young Drachma
07-31-2015, 12:32 PM
So more building out in the far Southwest part of the county, mostly developing the oil industry and cities to provide workers to those towns, though the tax benefits of oil aren't seeming to be what I thought they'd be, so I probably won't be building anymore towns like this, because it pollutes badly and messes with the water supply.

The new towns include:

Clarentown
Three Bridges
Leche Hills
Deery
Milick

I'll go over each of them in more detail later, but just accounting for the locations helps me keep track.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458083167516627/008B372B37278239C8C0E4CC8C770C73A2B9DC59/

The MSA population is around the size of Nashville and Austin now. Onward!

I think I decided we'll say this place is on the border of IL-KY which do not actually share a land border. Which makes it a little easier to visualize how to build future areas of the cities, as well as a future "twin city" for Churchill.

Young Drachma
07-31-2015, 04:34 PM
Rinskyville is home to the AAA stadium with the hope someday of a major league team to come to Churchill.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458176287959121/B7D2EBFF4682F89A0DAB1A5956B4DEFCF83B921D/

Highcester is a residential community adjacent to the international airport on the far northeast side of Churchill.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458176287959613/E8783FE5D1EE415251201A39E3C0CFFFBF29FB3F/



Villasarracino is the neighborhood bordering Parsonage Park home to high end boutiques, an indoor sport track and residential properties.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458176287958664/9D62DA40E5DC5CA886900BA9024B53612102B7A9/

Three Bridges is located further south just outside of the oil patch cities (Byrnside/Huston) and was borne out of more people moving to the area for oil jobs.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458083167515605/F5F276826AB1AD0550D4873D628743A822101E6D/

Here's an aerial map of that area:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458083167516469/A4CB8F8870B4410D84F798C6E9F2255066B3F7E3/

finkenst
07-31-2015, 05:06 PM
I think I decided we'll say this place is on the border of IL-KY which do not actually share a land border. Which makes it a little easier to visualize how to build future areas of the cities, as well as a future "twin city" for Churchill.

IL-KY do share a river border though. (not sure if you're aware or not, but you know)

Young Drachma
07-31-2015, 05:16 PM
IL-KY do share a river border though. (not sure if you're aware or not, but you know)

Yeah I am, my thinking is the map we're using is going to be taken to represent a bit further down the Ohio River near the Livingston County KY/Pope County, IL sides of the river. At least for the purposes of our storyline -- and probably more to do with the baseball side of the house than anything, but as I was building, it was becoming more important to me -- for some reason -- to define where the heck this was supposed to be since I'd gone and made it fictional and I preferred it be a totally new city rather than a reboot of an existing one so it's easier to build without preconceptions.

Young Drachma
08-01-2015, 01:23 AM
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458176289622700/89C77A40D6C106F2D1C9A50119023CCD7AABBF81/

I'm going to build a farm town out here, you can see Churchill in the distance. There will likely be a storyline around said town.

Young Drachma
08-01-2015, 08:28 PM
Here's the setup of what I'm considering:

A full setup of majors and minors, with a college league all with real life teams and set in present day. The only difference is the Churchill, KY metropolitan statistical area has exploded due to oil found on the southern part of the Ohio River Valley.

The city, which was founded by Union sympathizers and renamed after World War II when it was rumored that Winston Churchill was going to visit the town on rail (he never did), the city has grown exponentially in recent years and with a population over 2 million across two states (KY and IL) and is rumored to be on a short list with several other major cities for either an MLB expansion team or a move from an existing franchise.

We're going to chronicle the story both of the city, learn more about the area and also follow the independent league that's housed in the city, since Churchill does not have an affiliated minor league in its midst.

Playing with real players would be nice, too, because it means that we can occasionally see those guys sign down in the Churchill league.

So that's the basic setup. I'm still working on a few other aspects of the story (like what the teams will be called and what stand-in uniforms/logos I'll use since I don't have any...)

Radii
08-01-2015, 10:38 PM
Definitely enjoying this, I think I bought this when it came out and haven't touched it yet (like most steam games), living vicarously through your work seems good for now though :D

finkenst
08-01-2015, 11:40 PM
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458176289622700/89C77A40D6C106F2D1C9A50119023CCD7AABBF81/

I'm going to build a farm town out here, you can see Churchill in the distance. There will likely be a storyline around said town.

how did you get this picture done? Zoom/scroll all the way in and then tilt the camera?

Young Drachma
08-02-2015, 01:34 AM
Definitely enjoying this, I think I bought this when it came out and haven't touched it yet (like most steam games), living vicarously through your work seems good for now though :D

Haha..that was this game for me for months. I bought this back in March but didn't start messing with it until a few weeks ago. I'm trying to avoid buying Rocket League because it looks awesome, but we'll see how long I can hold off.

how did you get this picture done? Zoom/scroll all the way in and then tilt the camera?

I am using this enhanced zoom camera mod. (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=411016892&searchtext=camera)

Young Drachma
08-02-2015, 02:00 AM
I've spent way too much time tonight on inane things like adding Russian surnames in OOTP, but among other things I've discovered is how this game calculated population and the reason it only shows a lower number is based on the number of active stuff the game can simulate at once.

Long story short, the fudged population (https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/2yuko0/simcity_fudged_population_for_cities_skylines/) is closer to the actual population of the city, since cities with only 300k people (where we are now, I have not posted new pics of that yet) do not have the kinds of skylines we have in our cities, but that's kind of another flaw of the game's programming that there is no real in-between.

But no city simulator is perfect.

Anyway, the actual population of the city matters for the future of this dynasty which is why I'm telling you this and also because I'm only going to report the fudged population from now rather than whatever the game spits out since it's way too low and unrealistic.

Young Drachma
08-02-2015, 07:25 AM
Once I feel like the city has hit is stable growth point -- which is coming soon -- I'm going to spend some time rebuilding the mass transit infrastructure. Right now, it's a mess of illogical connections that don't really make a ton of sense. It works, but it's kind of a shitshow because I didn't develop it as a city, I built it mostly piecemeal and added stops as I went.

The buses and trains aren't bad, it's the subway that really needs to be rebuilt from scratch and rethought of. I'd like to really have a clearer idea of what goes where and who and why.

In fact, before I do any building that might be the next thing I do, because it might make it easier to figure out what should go where. I won't get rid of any stations, just drop all of the subway lines essentially and rebuild the lines so I can actually tell you what lines to take where.

This game even though it's not great at some things, does a fantastic job with the traffic in that it almost melds all of the stuff I liked about Cities in Motion 2 and puts it into a SimCity wrapping. I used to find it kind of tedious in the older city sims, but with this game, the traffic is almost a game within a game to me and I really enjoy solving the traffic and commuting puzzles.

I'd like to get to a point where I can tell you what line to take to get where within the city. It would be just be fun to build that from the ground up, even though in this case we're not really building it from the ground up, just reorganizing the lines we have.

Young Drachma
08-02-2015, 08:47 AM
Founded by a Boston steel magnate during Reconstruction, Churchill, Kentucky quickly became a booming city rivaling the ore production of Pittsburgh and Birmingham. By 1950, it'd eclipsed both Louisville and Cincinnati as the largest city on the Ohio River south of Pittsburgh.

The city was renamed in 1931 when a rumor thst Winston Churchill was
coming to town made officials change the name only to realize wasn't and they never changed it back."

Churchill grew quickly due to the growth of the Illinois side of the border, in the form of West St. Gregory, IL, a city that saw massive investment during WWII due to Great Migration blacks headed to Chicago and Detroit crossing the river. They also populated a section of Churchill called "Dred Scott" and were joined by immigrants from Ireland and throughout Europe, making the southeastern city a unique melting pot despite its location.


In 1990, oil was discovered in the area and dramatically increased the influx of capital to the area taking an area that had experienced well over 10% growth per decade and turning into "Dubai in the Heartland" according to the New York Times front page story highlighting the boomtown.

By 2010, the Churchill-St. Gregory-Santa Monica, KY-IL metropolitan statistical area boasted a population of 2.236 million, making it the 30th largest MSA in the country. Churchill is one of only 11 cities in the US with a population over a million.


FACTS
Lincoln County, IL Largest City: West St. Gregory (19th Congressional district) Area code: 921
Churchill County, KY Largest City: Churchill (7th Congressional District) Area code: 974
Highways serving area: I-3, I-98, I-67, I-298, I-767




With its massive growth and significant funds, Churchill is home to a lot of things -- except a major league baseball team. City officials hope to woo an MLB team to the city that already has an NBA team, NHL team and a team in MLS. MLB has said on the record that it would like the idea of bringing a team to this area given the closest team are the St Louis Cardinals.

In the AL, there are no immediately close rivals outside of the Chicago area or perhaps Cleveland. In the NL, Cincinnati, Atlanta and St. Louis, with Chicago a few hours north would all provide ample competition for the city's fans who would much prefer a hometown team for their booming metropolis.

In the interim, the city has not attracted a minor league in part because no owner wants to decamp on the city only to be booted by a potential MLB club. So instead, an independent league was formed several years ago.

The Lincoln League has a mix of young MLB hopefuls and veterans alike all playing a 120 game schedule annual. There is no split schedule and the top 6 teams make the post season (Top 2 in each division, plus two wild cards regardless of division)

In this dynasty, we are going to take a look at the teams in the Lincoln League, introduce you more readily to the cities and communities that make up the Greater Churchill area. Things have grown quite a bit from the maps you might have seen before.

Lastly, we'll keep an eye on the big leagues, following the teams and players contained therein to see if there's a chance of 1) MLB expansion to 32 teams or 2) a relocation of an existing team.

The people are Churchill welcome you.

Young Drachma
08-02-2015, 08:31 PM
I'm currently working on the city's entire transit system, by remapping everything. Existing stations will mostly continue to exist, but I've removed ALL of the transit lines (Think: Transit workers strike) and I'm going to meanwhile work on reorganizing the lines more logically.


Here's my tentative idea for Subway numbers:

LINES THAT ORIGINATE IN THE CHURCHILL CITY LIMITS (are lettered)
LINES THAT ORIGINAL IN THE COUNTY (are numbered)
LINES THAT ORIGINATE ON THE ILLINOIS SIDE OF THE BORDER (are double lettered)

For buses:
CITY LINES: Numbered between 100-199
ILLINOIS LINES: Numbered between 200-299
COUNTY LINES: Numbered between 300-399

For Rail Lines:
CITY TERMINATING LINES: "SPECTRA" #40-49
COUNTY TERMINATING LINES: "HORIZON" #90-99
TRAINS THAT CROSS INTO ILLINOIS: "TRANSRIVER" #75-85

Young Drachma
08-03-2015, 03:36 AM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/03/ce9a8625c97b6c8009821c2f1faf1dfe.jpg

Young Drachma
08-03-2015, 03:40 AM
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/03/2b1a09550d87455b1501ee588765a14b.jpg

Young Drachma
08-03-2015, 11:36 AM
So here are some more views of town. For starters, the transit strike really caused havoc on traffic in the city for months.

Here's a road out in Byrnside, an industrial city on the eastern outskirts of Churchill.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683885999/BB84C7089A3BAD038BB0DD9BE8AEF25C9C324C1D/
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683885633/9F412E4458D2FF6931BC7497B4DB64AE520BCD05/

If you recall earlier maps, this area was anchored by Shipchester and a bunch of suburbs, it originally was half industrial and then Stadium City was anchoring it on the bottom. Now?

It's the City of St. Gregory, the second largest city in the Churchill MSA and has a small downtown of its own anchored by Stadium City.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683116889/2554FCDDB28A65FFD8137A994E43E94F82128C38/

CONESTOGA BEACH
A suburb of St. Gregory and between
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683117534/0DE30FC784D78051B0EA44DC60AEE59DC6292609/

CANYONVILLE
Canyonville is the fastest growing community in the Churchill metro area. It's a pretty place, commutable to the city without being right in the muck of it.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683118214/69EBE3BA12FCF9FEE919220EE19E1C2639FFB9DD/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683117795/0E33F3D5838E895B24D379A631AFAE761FE7454E/

Here's the entire Churchill area from an airplane:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683118474/76E3E2E851CCB3724CBD07DD3358CDB5B789153F/

I didn't get any good photos of rural Santa Monica, the city that spans the far eastern side of Churchill county, but here's an aerial view that's only half of its annexed territory.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366683118625/76A5F89A9C58939E28188EC6431B411C730F5F39/

I managed to start the rebuild of transit lines last night, which I'm happy about. I'll go through and show you, because why not? There are still areas that lack service, but that feels realistic to me and we'll eventually expand service to those areas gradually, but I'll show you how we've done it.

finkenst
08-03-2015, 05:43 PM
i think i havea noise problem:
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/701785892298417681/640510AFB7F648D389DF80612CA65CCDE58DD6AA/

Young Drachma
08-03-2015, 06:32 PM
OMG.

I just checked Churchill and it's at 50% but I had not been trying to mitigate the effects at all, so no real surprise.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366686415293/5D7971E2D70731F2A7235792890CA4D6613F841A/

Young Drachma
08-03-2015, 09:05 PM
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366686765776/87B8246C646FB2FACDB46866100707768CF682C4/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366686765965/24A13EB6B3662094EE65E31C4509ACA40F0F9AA5/

Finally two photos from Santa Monica where there is only one bus route and still no subway or rail access. Mass transit use isn't where it was before the strike, but it's slowly getting back there and at least it's far more logical now. One of these days I'm going to ride along with a car from out there and tell you how far it is from there to the central part of town. I imagine it's AT LEAST an hour drive, but I have no clue offhand.

SUBWAYS REVISITED
The game doesn't display Subway maps very nicely unfortunately, but here are the current list of the 13 subway lines I rebuilt. There need to be a lot more of them, as there are still sections of town with no access, but I need to think about it logically. We need more express routes because right now this setup are all take too many stops, so my next go-round of buses & metro lines are going to be direct routes that make it easier to get where you want to go, in the hopes that increases ridership.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366686767012/D49EB9FB741061100FB8E85FFBB245C5E295DE41/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366686769964/99774C7E5E0E680DDFB5C6867C5196B0E1118AD8/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366686769674/ED85E8F76E7A29781CB5067E82562515C5D857C9//

Young Drachma
08-03-2015, 10:02 PM
I added a few new lines and I've confirmed my theory that express lines do well and save people trips. No big shock but my city has bad traffic so adding more buses isn't the trick just yet though subways everywhere isn't realistic or tenable.

Brian Swartz
08-03-2015, 10:05 PM
This in incredible. You have a lot of creativity with this stuff -- I'm very left-brained so I end up making ant-colony types of cities. Excellent work here!

Young Drachma
08-04-2015, 12:14 AM
The NHL team built their own arena on the IL side of the border, leaving the Arena Square location for the NBA team.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366687363990/B853714752DD6AFEDF4876FFF959A09DDA885C39/

Parsonage Park is the largest park in the city.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458366687365117/E72B67392BE60C60A523216B0678237ED1D20103/

Young Drachma
08-10-2015, 06:43 PM
Some updates.

Lower Marsey/South Marsey is the area that used to be the main airport in the city. For years I've wanted to move MKS International Airport from where it was to a different part of town, but didn't do it until now. The reclaimed area is now known as Lower Marsey/Gunpowder Hills/South Marsey.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968109285662/4F557816B9378BC8CD8FACE1212127831E097BCD/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968109290758/8EF676D07BF1A92F186952A25EDD885C2FEA0138/


Mitchell K Stevens International Airport, the new version
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968109282170/09B126F460FCD2E38F12ECC16714FBD2DD95A06F/

Santa Monica Island isn't really an island, but it's adjacent to one and located between Santa Monica and the rest of Churchill, it's a bedroom community right on the lake.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111305977/5A086867E1DA6448F6197C2C09E00F703D0A9A50/

[B]Remember earlier when I destroyed quite a bit of commercial and office areas and I meant to rebuild? Well, I finally started that process in a section of town between the new Airport and South Marsey called The Financial District

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111581690/957FC222D07B4255632B1F572C06F420580C5ACF/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111589645/40052AADA6C3AB76B64B376835A2FB0A200B86E2/

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111708768/B0FEACC68A925ABAF140DD9CA9074151BC51B032/

The downtown skyline has changed with a new tallest building in Churchill, the Bravery Building
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111583278/E06F1779B7B8DE3A7B8F4E55F8691592EA0560C9/

Downtown view from Danishtown neighborhood
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111584318/D09CD1C9105B0CA7E8725A77FC88170CD9BE0655/

Downtown view from Way North section (Norway) neighborhood
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111586121/18CE76156B08E78B70EEF4FDD372BF4A0333E83D/

Downtown view from Arena Square
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/448458968111587549/6A321609D3459DF5FD68D8E68405820F5E7F4F67/

bbgunn
08-10-2015, 07:04 PM
Are you using a mod to show all of the bus and train lines, or is that part of the vanilla game?

Young Drachma
08-10-2015, 07:17 PM
Are you using a mod to show all of the bus and train lines, or is that part of the vanilla game?

Improved Public Transport Mod + Extended Public Transport UI mod.

bbgunn
08-11-2015, 01:11 AM
Improved Public Transport Mod + Extended Public Transport UI mod.
Cool. Thanks!

finkenst
08-13-2015, 02:40 PM
yeah, that and the traffic tools are amazing. I've learned you have to hve mass transit to get the biggest residential and commercial buildings..

Young Drachma, are some of the building placed buildings or are they randomly built by the game? (with or without mods to bring them in)

Grover
08-13-2015, 02:48 PM
Fantastic stuff, man.

This has shot to the top of my wishlist.

Young Drachma
08-13-2015, 02:53 PM
yeah, that and the traffic tools are amazing. I've learned you have to hve mass transit to get the biggest residential and commercial buildings..

Young Drachma, are some of the building placed buildings or are they randomly built by the game? (with or without mods to bring them in)

Most of my prominent skyline buildings downtown and the entire Financial districts skycrapers I plopped rather than letting the AI place them. When the AI does place things in places I don't want, I delete them but it hasn't happened too much because I have the high rises banned in most parts of the city so that skyline isn't so muddled. Arena Square, all of my stadiums and downtown St. Gregory were mostly curated by me, too. As well as Parsonage Square Park.

I downloaded a ton of mods (my game on the laptop runs very slowly...I should've started it on the desktop would've been faster, but I'm gone a lot) to include mods for things like skycrapers, cars, different kinds of buildings for residential/commercial, etc.

They didn't do a great out of loading stock diverse items to start, so the mods are key to make it seem a bit more...eclectic.

If you go on reddit, those guys have different cities (https://www.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/) that'll give you even more ideas.

Young Drachma
11-20-2016, 12:34 PM
I actually have been working on a city for most of the year called Vampire Lake. Anyone who followed my old Neloxia dynasties, it's a city in NW Neloxia.

It's actually built on a Roanoke map, I basically transformed the place though over months into something resembling a city I wanted. I focused on mixed-use neighborhoods, rebuilt the entire mass transit infrastructure and almost tripled the population from its original state when I took over.

Here's the City Skyline among other parts of the city:

http://i.imgur.com/FTDgngI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lM0Qqj6.jpg

Firefly Ridge is a neigborhood I built out of a former lumber/industrial area overlooking the city limits.

http://i.imgur.com/0dYimxE.jpg


Cathopolis is the largest suburb in the Vampire Lake metropolitan area. It's the fastest growing area in the entire region.

http://i.imgur.com/3zmpS7j.jpg

Bernstein is a small city just over the highway from Cathopolis.

http://i.imgur.com/jICMBqA.jpg

This is an old photo of Old Town Vampire Lake. The skyline is a lot more mature now.

http://i.imgur.com/Nd0NTFT.jpg

Young Drachma
11-20-2016, 12:37 PM
I've since fixed that gnarly traffic problem you see up top, too. I took that photo to illustrate the issues I was having with parking. I'll eventually go back to that map and show you more.

Right now, I've started working on my first new map in a while...it's a city I've named Helensburgh. Unlike my other cities, I'm actually imagining this as an American city, but not in any state that I can immediately think of.

The idea here is for me to actually go through and name the neighborhoods, name the major streets and then do a census of the various schools and then do some kind of parallel dynasty with the local high schools.

Young Drachma
11-20-2016, 12:50 PM
Here's a nighttime aerial shot flying into Helensburgh city.

http://i.imgur.com/gMWlIOq.jpg

Young Drachma
11-20-2016, 02:17 PM
Here's an aerial neighborhood map of Helensburgh. In an ideal world, I'll be adding a lot more neighborhoods to this town once I get a handle on the whole place and figure out what I want to do with it. There are a ton of commercial-only/industrial-only areas on this map and of course, I prefer more mixed use and gradually less industrial.

http://i.imgur.com/ahMhA02.jpg

Young Drachma
11-20-2016, 06:58 PM
I'm doing a different strategy this time, trying to figure out the various streets first and then renaming the neighborhoods. The adjusted city population (is around 3.2 million people, so it's about the size of cities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_statistical_area#List_of_combined_statistical_areas) that I have context for like Portland, Denver or Minneapolis.

Here are the 9 "sides" of Helensburg. Now that I've annexed the surrounding areas from the core city, the city boundaries will eventually grow. The total square mileage would be around 125 sq. miles when complete obviously much of that is water.

http://i.imgur.com/FcX5IwF.png

My next task is to identify the main streets around the city. Very tedious, but it's an important part of getting my bearings and knowing where is what, etc., then the next step will be adding various neighborhoods to the various sections of town, because there aren't that many for a city of this size.

After that, we'll look at the schools around town and figure out where they are, etc.

Brian Swartz
11-21-2016, 12:31 PM
This thread is the first time I've ever seen a traffic issue described as 'gnarly'.

I'm curious, do you have any truly perverse 'spaghetti junction' highway interchanges like I've seen in some videos/pics about Skylines, or have you ironed all that out?

Young Drachma
11-21-2016, 12:55 PM
This thread is the first time I've ever seen a traffic issue described as 'gnarly'.

I'm curious, do you have any truly perverse 'spaghetti junction' highway interchanges like I've seen in some videos/pics about Skylines, or have you ironed all that out?

I'll look for some. In that aforementioned city (Vampire Lake), I had a HUGE problem that are partially inherent to the game mechanics where ambulances and cops were traveling halfway across the city to deal with issues where I had hospitals and police stations and that was causing massive traffic issues.

How I solved it? I mostly cut out outside connections, coupled with creating a bunch of one-way roads in the main part of town, coupled with killing off so many connections to the main highway in the city. It took me a while to get it right, but I finally did.

Should have documented it better, so I could show what I did.

Young Drachma
11-21-2016, 08:54 PM
I went back to Vampire Lake and took photos for the first time in ages. The skyline is a lot fuller around the city than I'd remembered. I'm going to take more photos and share them. Here's what downtown looks like now.

http://i.imgur.com/kNRilMgh.jpg

Young Drachma
11-21-2016, 09:34 PM
Cathopolis is the largest suburb in the Vampire Lake metro area. Here's the latest aerial view. Population there is about 228,752 people (game adjusted: 27896)

http://i.imgur.com/fqjW7jph.jpg

Young Drachma
11-21-2016, 09:58 PM
Aerial view of the Greater Blake City area which also includes the towns of New Oberlin, Milk Woods and Breakfast Island.
http://i.imgur.com/2NIfOCSh.jpg


Breakfast Island is a resort town just outside of the Blake City limits. It's a popular vacation spot for families around the VLMA.
http://i.imgur.com/sIN6Mq4h.jpg

Brian Swartz
11-23-2016, 08:16 PM
I bought this finally during the Steam Thanksgiving sale and it is all your fault. As are the hundreds of hours I'll probably spend playing it.

Way to go.

Young Drachma
12-01-2016, 10:48 AM
I bought this finally during the Steam Thanksgiving sale and it is all your fault. As are the hundreds of hours I'll probably spend playing it.

Way to go.

:popcorn:

Happy to have helped. ;)

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/110732351523738564/8CA5352D1EC96D85AD4871FB488F27B5D4664D84/

Last night, I messed around a bit in Helensburgh with the metro lines to really figure out where they go. I need to create more neighborhoods, but went with a minimalist approach figuring they could develop organically. The road naming mod is broken right now because of the new patch, but when I can get that back, I can start renaming roads here and get a better sense of place.

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/110732351523737805/407450C8A3F58E35E27BCD5F9E420A49CFD8F200/

Mass transit ridership here is better than any other city I've seen.

I'd like to make bus lines more efficient in the meantime, I've turned trams to only work during the day and might eventually eliminate them altogether as I'm not convinced they're helping anything.

I'll wait to do anything to subway lines, though we have too many and I think some of the southern ones can be consolidated, but I need to study commuters better before I can assess the better ways of doing that.

We also have some neighborhoods here that are too industrial and I'm going to eventually phase them out into residential/commercial mixed use districts and so, when that happens, we'll probably have other transit needs in those areas as a result.

Young Drachma
12-01-2016, 07:25 PM
Having done some math, seems like ridership in Helensburgh is around 36.7% which would put the city around Top 30 in the US, which is cool.

I'm working on a subway map too, which I've been wanting for a really long time and I finally found a tool.

I think if I can work on some of the lesser lines and make the more efficient, there might even be a way to increase ridership, I especially need to work on the bus lines because they're not that efficient from what I can gather so far.

Young Drachma
12-02-2016, 03:35 PM
The NYC nomenclature (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway_nomenclature#Describing_directions) probably works the best. I can't decide if the nomenclature is just in my head because I'm most familiar with that system or if the fact that Helensburgh is so subway extensive that it sort of fits.

So with that being said, you have "lines" which are the sections of the subway, "services" which was the individual routes and then "stations" which are dotted all over the city. There way too many stations in Helensburgh and probably need to have some close, but I can't really close them until I've identified all of them.


http://i.imgur.com/aN9jwKR.jpg

I've started going through (and thanks to a street name generator, using that as a way to name the station stops without having to overthink it..I figure they can change later) and naming the various stops on each line. Once I've done that, I'm going to start naming each of the lines.

THEN once I've done that, I'll identify the services across the city and come up with some kind of color system for the various lines. I haven't exactly decided how I want to do that yet or how they'll correspond. It seems like the EASIEST way to do the color coding is to come up with colors based on sections of town.

http://i.imgur.com/Ze6MLpl.jpg

There are 9 official sections of town, 10 if you count the suburbs that I haven't built on yet. Almost all of our metro lines extend beyond their section of town, so there won't be a whole lot of lines that start and terminate in the same section of the city.

The game doesn't let you name by "county" or larger area but I need to come up with borough/county type names so that it's easier to distinguish the various areas besides just geography. Because right now on the map, West and East are backwards in the naming, though North/South are accurate.

http://i.imgur.com/gOMljAD.jpg

So each rail line will have its own color, like New York. Then we'll identify each service line in some fashion either by letters, numbers or some combination but I haven't figured out exactly how to determine those yet. <s>Still trying to figure out some kind of consistent nemonic.</s>

Trains that go E/W will be numbered. Trains that go North/South will be lettered. That solves that. Each line will have its own color, but I'll need to identify each of the lines (and their branches) before I can do that.

Young Drachma
12-02-2016, 10:58 PM
Okay, so there are at least six lines I've identified that all of the services will fall under.


WEST SIDE LINE (Silver)
SOUTH SIDE LINE (Blue)
NORTHWEST LINE (Tomato)
CENTRAL SLOPE LINE (Brown)
BAYSIDE LINE (Red)
PENINSULA LINE (Green)


The street car/TRAM system will be designated Yellow (#FEE355)
The two commuter railroad lines will be designated Orange (#F5A62D)

Young Drachma
12-03-2016, 12:17 AM
Here's a much better aerial view of the neighborhoods without the district icons. Highland Estates in the Northeast is not within the city limits.

http://i.imgur.com/Aod6Qx2.jpg

The city looks really dense and I was trying to figure out why, but per capita density (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density#Metropolitan_areas) would indeed be just beneath NYC as the 2nd most dense major U.S. if Helensburgh were a real place. (26,607 per square mile)

I'm probably going to do some fairly massive changes to the city landscape though, because it's just too dense for my tastes and I'd like to have it be more distinguishable, so the neighborhoods are going to undergo some reconstruction, I've been avoiding it because I didn't want to suffer a huge population loss, but it's worth it to me if I can get neighborhoods to look more distinct.

Young Drachma
12-03-2016, 04:13 AM
The revised map with the accurate N/S/W/E

http://i.imgur.com/Aod6Qx2.jpg

Before I start doing some urban renewal, here is the present dominant neighborhood types:

Residential
Circle City
Kidney
Cantaloupe Creek
Highland Estates
Woodland
Brewerstown
Congotown
South Side
Laurel Lake
Uptown
Far Side
Crown Point
Spring Lake Park
Shippen Point

COMMERICAL/OFFICE
West Side
Downtown
Messier
Bayside
Heirloom
South Side Cove
Bottlecap
Rigby

Industrial
North 40
Bridgewater
Silkwood

Young Drachma
12-03-2016, 04:19 AM
RED LINE: A, B, G, 1, 2, 3
GREEN LINE: C, E, L/L, 4, 7
SILVER LINE: D, 2
BLUE LINE: J/J, M/M, R
TOMATO LINE: K, 5, 8/8, 9, 11
B-LINE (Tram System) (YELLOW)
METRO RAIL (Passenger Rail) (ORANGE)
CITY ROUTE (Bus System) (PINK)

People won't ever refer to the lines by their color in Helensburgh, I just have them listed for organizational purposes. The eventual next step will be to list out all of the stations for each of the routes along each line. In a few cases, there are lines that have the same letter/number in different sections of the city that don't intersect (L, J, M, 8)

I'll probably (at some point) map out a few people's commute as I'm curious about how people get around.

The B-LINE only travels from Messier to the Lower Slope areas of town, so it's not as prevalent as subways or buses.

Young Drachma
12-04-2016, 12:35 PM
I've decided to go through and eliminate all of the 20 bus lines the city had and start over. I didn't really like how many stops they had, it seemed inefficient to me, so I'm going to attempt a deal where we have a few major routes that travel major thoroughfares, with small lines in neighborhoods feeding them and see if that increases ridership.

Right now, bus ridership is really small to the point of almost not needing them at all and I feel like it could be more efficient if the lines were drawn better.

Also, it'll help me to know where the routes actually travel.

Young Drachma
12-04-2016, 03:21 PM
I just went through the bus lines and now we're back to 20 lines again, but ridership is even lower now than before. I've decided that local lines don't quite work as well if they don't take you through the city without connecting. I think my plan now is to create several "inter-zone" express lines that people can connect to and that leave from the same stations in the hopes that maybe it'll increase bus ridership back to where it was, if not beyond that.

We'll see.

Young Drachma
12-05-2016, 12:16 PM
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/110732351538830514/7E20510834389432033B18130DF1A9FF2F5B1914/

This is the latest neighborhood map. Some renaming, some expansion though I haven't done much outside of the city limits yet.

Young Drachma
12-05-2016, 01:11 PM
Extremely likely that I'm going to attempt rebuilding the subway lines the same way I did for buses. I feel like there are 1) too many stops and 2) I just want to know the areas better and doing this has helped me understand where things are, etc.

The problem with the subway right now is I don't really know where the connection points are and I'd like to have a better sense of where they drop off, intersect, etc. Now that I know the neighborhoods and have the lines identified, this should be easier (in theory) and then I figure out bus efficiency, but I'm probably doing something really wrong with the buses.

After reading what other people have done/are doing, they've gotten a lot more ridership than I've managed to...the best I can seem to do is about 5-6%, I've read people who have 13% ridership because their lines are more efficient or at least, more common to get people where they need to go. It'll be tedious to start over again, but seeing as this is literally the only thing I'm working on right now in the city, I'm good with it.

Young Drachma
12-05-2016, 06:51 PM
For my current save, I'm only going to work on mass transit and perhaps, clarifying neighborhood boundaries. I don't think I'll do anything dramatic like eliminate TRAM system or anything. I'm not even entirely sure I'll change the way METRO service works right now. I haven't rebuild the METRO service, I only renamed them based on existing lines, because it seemed like a gargantuan task.

Buses themselves have been enough of a bear. I do think one of the "realistic" mods I had on was causing the drop in bus/subway traffic, because nothing else I did would've caused such a decline in ridership on subway lines. Bus lines I can see it, because I changed the lines so drastically and because none of my lines are really that circular around the city and I don't have routes that work in tandem with other ones.

I might rebuild the bus lines a third time, this time, I will look at commuting patterns of people in residential neighborhoods to find out where they work and see if it works better to get them from where they are to where they'd like to be.

Then I'll take some photos and share my work.

Young Drachma
12-06-2016, 07:58 AM
I did a citywide census last night and was able to really section the city off into 5 separate boroughs, essentially. I haven't named them yet, but for organizational purposes, it makes things a lot easier to make sense of because two of them are extremely residential (South) and the Northeast is emergent, whereas Central and Northwest are more industrial/commercial focused.

Understanding the neighborhoods and how they arrange helps me understand traffic flow better.

Young Drachma
12-06-2016, 08:13 AM
I started reading again over at Simtropolis. Apparently at around 400k population, the game hits an active agent limit. So my mass transit problems aren't really me, it's just a game constraint on how many simulated agents can be moving around at once.

That makes me feel better that it's not something I was doing wrong, per se.

Young Drachma
12-22-2016, 01:37 PM
The Ironwood Redevelopment Project (IRP) was literally a campaign promise made by the incoming mayor and he delivered, as the project is still in Phase II, but Phase I is pretty impressive. Gone are the smokestacks that pushed up against downtown and were separated from it by a highway.

Instead? One of Helensburgh's hottest new neighborhoods. I can't wait to get more into this place and finish the project. It'll be almost entirely residential/commercial, not many offices here.

Ironwood is also home to the new Helensburgh Zoo and a minor league soccer stadium.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/461/31435955480_e43fa13465_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PTTumq)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5610/31691998961_b2b8eb6398_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QhvMac)

Here you can see the separation of what I'm roughly referring to right now as East Ironwood and West Ironwood. Both have their own "parkside" areas that were industrial areas. I'd imagine both will develop into separate neighborhoods, but I have not figure out what they'd be called yet. The Ironwood name has some currency still, but there is a need to differentiate which park you're referring to, rather than just the generic "Ironwood Park"

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/319/30967876944_2fe9bc96c8_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PbwsUQ)

Another area that is developing is College Park home to Helensburgh University.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/387/30967880694_bcae013815_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Pbwu2u)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/731/31691999641_7545760fd3_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QhvMmV)

Young Drachma
12-22-2016, 01:39 PM
Umm..sidenote? Using dynamic resolution mod to generate "HD" screenshots of my cities. The Simtropolis folks were doing it and I had no idea how their screenshots looked so much better. First, it's because many of those folks place their cities assets by hand. But it's also because they use dynamic resolution to generate super high res images.

I don't play with that resolution, just crank it to take photos.

Balldog
12-23-2016, 07:50 PM
Impressive
I wish I could get into this game but I flame out early on every time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Young Drachma
12-29-2016, 12:57 PM
My latest shots were taken last night in the College Park section of Helensburgh. I've been on a spree lately of redevelopment around the city, but it's a huge city so there's always lots of work to do. I need to go through tonight and take a bunch of screenshots of the various neighborhoods and get some detail shots, just so that I have some before & after shots to show you all after I get done making changes.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/525/31926999526_b1472a57e0_b.jpg

https://c6.staticflickr.com/1/558/31154420253_198bc0090b_b.jpg

Young Drachma
12-29-2016, 01:03 PM
https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/533/30998939403_d6f6b67888_b.jpg

No idea what part of town this is because it's at night.

Young Drachma
12-30-2016, 10:03 AM
This is from the Heart River section of Helensburgh. The area is outside the city limits, near Heart River and a relatively new development that only cropped up in recent years. Very residential and in contrast to say, Milwaukie/Woodland Park area, feels more urban and less suburban, but still super quiet and great for families.

https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/767/31982671095_b5bf1cc530_b.jpg

Young Drachma
01-02-2017, 12:35 PM
Planning to spend a bit of time today in Helensburgh, I've found some new areas I'd like to redevelop or at least get a better sense of where they are. The skyline of the downtown is also evolving. It's essentially a citywide plan to become less dense/congested, so the city is evolving before our eyes.

Here's a view of the red light district called "Playhouse" to get you going.

The Playhouse District is the Red Light district in the city.
https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/427/32004418626_f069f69c4a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QL81D9)

Young Drachma
01-02-2017, 09:44 PM
I decided to redo the district map. Rather than codifying the district each time I want to repurpose an area, I'm just going to create boroughs of the city. I feel like it'll make it easier to determine the character of each area, rather than thinking in such a micro way.

I'll still identify neighborhoods, it'll just be a manual thing. When the street naming mod starts working again, I can use street names to help me figure out boundaries of neighborhoods since in many cities the boundaries aren't precise anyway.

Young Drachma
01-03-2017, 09:42 AM
Went touring. More context for these later, I just needed to share the latest.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/1/577/31233856633_dbbcd05d8a_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/PA2Fpx)255710_20170101225418_1 (https://flic.kr/p/PA2Fpx)*

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/625/32004416896_05632bca45_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QL818j)Playhouse District, Helensburgh (https://flic.kr/p/QL818j)


https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/769/31668966540_0d45740573_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QftJqu)255710_20170101231103_1 (https://flic.kr/p/QftJqu)

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/388/31668968040_e265419b0f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QftJSm)255710_20170101232515_1 (https://flic.kr/p/QftJSm)*

Young Drachma
01-03-2017, 09:47 AM
https://c3.staticflickr.com/1/601/31202939314_7239f71b22_b.jpg

https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/337/31233860143_32060f5d53_b.jpg[/url]255710_20170101231741_1 (https://flic.kr/p/PA2Gs4)

Young Drachma
01-03-2017, 11:26 PM
Downtown isn't in the corner as the map indicates. There's a bug sometimes when you rename regions and it pushes the old region names into the corner of the map. It's weird. Anyway...what I've done here is create 5 boroughs from the existing land masses where we once had neighborhoods. They still exist, I just needed a better -- more organized -- way to figure out how the parts of the city interact, partially because it helps me better formulate and shape the neighborhoods.

http://i.imgur.com/4J4Zt1f.png

Ameliaville is not a borough. It's a separate city not part of Helensburgh, but is obviously part of the metropolitan area. I'll be building other cities outside of the city limits over time, too.

More later.

Young Drachma
01-04-2017, 11:10 AM
What I've done here is create 5 boroughs from the existing land masses where we once had neighborhoods. They still exist, I just needed a better -- more organized -- way to figure out how the parts of the city interact, partially because it helps me better formulate and shape the neighborhoods. Most will still exist, but I'd prefer more flexible and porous borders anyway, whereas the boroughs do not change. Ameliaville is a city that's outside of Helensburgh, but would be considered part of the metropolitan area. I imagine we'll have more of those towns over time, too.

So future images will explore the neighborhoods of each in more detail. Our districts/boroughs are hereafter referred to as "Charters"

NEIGHBORHOODS BY CHARTER (PART OF CITY)

PILLSBROOK (SE HELENSBURGH)
South Side Cove
Uptown
North Laurel
Merchant
Heirloom
Far Side
Bay Slope
Forest Heights
South Commerce
Lower West End
Sheffield Square

STOBBEN*(S/SW HELENSBURGH)
Spring Lake Park
Crown Point
Playhouse District
The Bottlecap
Pleasant Island
Shippen Point
Upper Rigby
Lower Rigby
Central Slope
Bayside-Market
SoDo

MESSIER*(CENTRAL HELENSBURGH)
Downtown
Messier
Ironwood
Eastwood Park
West Side Square
Brewerstown
West Side
Lower North
Midtown Park
Silkwood

CHAUNCEYSTHROW (NNW HELENSBURGH)
North End
Bridgewater
Kidney
Congotown
Circle City
Way North
Dreamland

THE DAUPHIN*(NNE HELENSBURGH)
Milwaukie
Woodland*
North Woodland
Highland Estates
Prime Minister Island
Cantaloupe Creek
East Island
College Park
Airport (HBG)

OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS
Ameliaville

Young Drachma
01-04-2017, 02:00 PM
Some factoids:


Nobody who lives in "Messier" says they live in Messier, they'll just tell you the neighborhood or even the street number they're on.


It's not Chaunceysthrow to anyone local, just "I live in Chauncey."


Chauncey is trying to fashion itself as the new hotness, but a lot of folks feel it's just too far from the city center.


People who live on East Island are legally in The Dauphin, but really feel more aligned with Messier given its proximity and because it's kind of a intermediate point to the other charters since they have bridges going on both side. So anyone who lives in College Park, East Island neighborhood or near the Airport are likely to rep EIC (East Island City, not a real place..but the nickname for the whole island) than The Dauphin, which has a reputation for being a sleepy place and a bit ritzy depending on your neighborhood.


The rest of The Dauphin are also pretty neighborhood dependent and are always likely to mention what neighborhood they live in, so you know they're not in the urban core and you might presume they're rich somehow even though that's not the majority of the people who live there.


Stobben is pronounce STOUGH-BEN, not STAH-BEN.


Pillsbrook is the most suburban of the charters, people here would probably say "Uptown Pillsbrook or Heirloom Pillsbrook, but usually
"neighborhood/Pillsbrook." They're pretty proud of themselves down there.*

Stobben is where everybody moves when they can't afford Messier. Home to the red-light district and the new baseball stadium, it's probably where the most young people live outside of College Park.

Young Drachma
01-04-2017, 11:36 PM
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Wrourough is the 6th Charter. It's pronounced "Rural"

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Young Drachma
01-08-2017, 01:42 AM
Did some building in the Milwaukie area today, built a new university that has fantastic views, too.

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Young Drachma
01-11-2017, 08:44 AM
My most recent visit to town was building a winter resort outside of the city limits called Walter Mountain Resort. The town itself is called Walter and it's grown from a skibum resort town with a metro area population of about 25,000 people tho it's less during the off-season. We built a smaller airport at the base of the mountain, largely to accommodate tourist traffic who are rich people that wanted to come in just for skiing and didn't want to deal with larger HBG (Helensburgh International). This smaller airport we'll say is actually older than HBG, but was pressed into action as Walter Mountain became a destination winter vacation spot.

Here are some pics:

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Young Drachma
01-13-2017, 03:55 PM
I expanded past the Ameliaville area and created a new town of Heart Lake, which is right on Heart Lake this time rather than relatively adjacent.

It's recently added highway access, so it'll probably start to get bigger faster as a result.

Here are some photos of Heart Lake:

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Across the highway is the town of Middledock, which is actually a city separated by an inlet, no good photos of it yet.

Young Drachma
01-13-2017, 07:20 PM
I read this story in the NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/sports/football/atlanta-falcons-stadium-arthur-blank-neighborhood.html) today and it made me think about these cities and how we can tell better stories. I might even make a Medium collection out of it, since I have such good photos.

I'm kicking around doing features on various neighborhoods and some of the challenges they face. It's interesting when we build these, we spend a lot of time talking about the challenges with redevelopment and not really focusing as much on the "agents" that are contained on the ground, where they go, what they do and so forth.

Even when there are people who build more slum-riddled cities, there just lacks a bunch of context. For instance, I'm thinking about the ways that mass transit works in the city and what life is like in the parts of the city proper that don't have any mass transit access and how expensive it is to live there, etc.

So I'm going to probably do some contextualizing as I go through and keep building or whatever.

I also need, now that I have a better sense of the areas of town, to look at the mass transit maps and do some visual routing of where bus/subway lines go on a photo of the city. With the street naming mod still not working, I can't name streets easily, but I might use some other method to try again, because it's the one thing I haven't been able to do as much lately so I don't have context for the neighborhoods in a granular way.

I'd like to dig deeper for stories.

Young Drachma
01-13-2017, 07:51 PM
When I first started redeveloping here, I was thinking it was more Denver-esque, but now I'm thinking it's way more like Atlanta especially as it grows.

The thing we're probably missing is a third principal city, assuming that Ameliaville is a full fledged city, so we'll work on building a second major city somewhere, but I haven't decided where yet. Plus, I get a bit hamstrung when it comes to building some of these places because I tend to make the road networks a bit too sprawled and I'd prefer tighter ones if I can manage it.

Young Drachma
01-14-2017, 01:40 PM
I finally got Cimtopgrapher to work for me so I was able to start generating road maps of the city. This is a street map of the Pillsbrook section of the city.

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Young Drachma
01-15-2017, 01:32 PM
The road naming mod is broken in-game. I could probably generate roads using the the cimtopgrapher tool, but I feel like it's more organic to do it in-game because I can see which ways roads connect and get a more natural feel. Since the road tool is broken, I'll probably just use the district tool as a stopgap. It'll be messy and I sort of hate it, but...I've got screenshots of the neighborhood map and I didn't intend to go back to using the district namer that way anyway.

I'd like to rebuild mass transit situations again, I feel like ridership isn't really effective because i've done a crap job of connecting neighborhoods to transit, etc., but in order for me to be better at this, I need to have a sense of the names of streets and stations so that I know precisely where I'm connecting people, etc.

I could probably spend some time looking at the commuting patterns of people, but I'm not sure I'm that invested this is really too nerdy for words.

Young Drachma
01-16-2017, 12:20 AM
I'm kind of at a standstill until I can name roads, which is kinda dumb but that's just what I want to work on right now. I did rebuild the bus lines, but I had to disable some mods that I think were preventing the lines from actually starting to work. If not, I'll delete the lines and eventually start again.

It's also possible that we can just ditch bus transit altogether in this city for now and just have gnarly traffic for a while if it leads to that and then eventually try to rework the bus situation once I can effectively map roads better.

The real problem with bus lines is a lot of the neighborhoods are very winding and it makes it hard to create linear routes throughout the area to me. I'm just also really loathe to create lots of small lines that feed into bigger ones because I might find it tedious or perhaps I'd like to be sure it's working first before going further.

So I dunno, I'll test what I've done now and see if it takes without mods loaded and if not, I'll need to try again a different way.

Sidenote: For the purposes of my basketball sims I'm playing right now, Helensburgh/Ameliaville is going to be a major city based in Montana. It's more realistic than when I try to stage things out of Wyoming and there are at least two D1 basketball programs there, so I'll be intrigued that if we ratchet up the talent out of Montana over time whether those programs will benefit or not.

It won't even just be talent from our area, but from other cities around the state.

I won't really be editing ratings because that's way too tedious in FBCB, I'm just going to rename guys and move game-generated guys to Montana essentially and then see how the game reacts to this talent infusion into that state over the years.

I might eventually put an NBA expansion team there too, because I have a spot for them and I think the story is leading me in that direction.

I need a census of all of the high schools in the city first, so that's my next project since I can actually do that.

The MSA population (agents converted to people) is over 4.3 million, making Ameliaville-Helensburgh, MT MSA the 13th largest MSA in the country sandwiched between Riverside and Detroit if you look at the current numbers. It's nearing the Phoenix/Atlanta comparisons of sprawling city and has surpassed Denver as the 2nd largest city in the Mountain West after Phoenix. If you're trying to map your way there, for the purposes of this storyline, just use Haxby, MT because the only water situation that resembles the map I have in any real way in Montana would be just there near the Missouri River, which I'm good with it being a river city.

Young Drachma
01-16-2017, 01:33 AM
SUBURBS
----
Helensburgh Central
Heartlake
Northwest (Middledock)
Walter Mountain

CHAUNCEY
----
Circle City
Chauncey
Bridgewater
Kidneytown
Academy of Arts & Science

MESSIER
----
North Side (Far North)
Brewer
Skyline
Chippewa
Ameliaville Christian
St. John The Baptist Catholic
Ironwood
West Side
Green Meadows School
Messier North
East Side

THE DAUPHIN
------
Frozen Lake
Parker School
City Island
Pope John Paul II
Highland North
Highland South
Milwaukie Catholic
Milwaukie East
Milwaukie West
Woodland North
Woodland Creek


PILLSBROOK
----
Helensburgh Episcopal
Southeast
Heirloom
Bay Slope
Pillsbrook East
Pillsbrook South
Forest Heights
South Commerce
Sheffield
Laurel
Uptown
Pillsbrook North
Pillsbrook West
Creek Ridge
Bear Mountain

WROUROUGH
---
South Ameliaville
Ameliaville School For The Deaf

STOBBEN
----
Twin Islands
Shippen South
Shippen North
Crown Point
Bayside
Central Slope
Holy Father
Community Hall
Stobben Central
Urusline Academy

Young Drachma
01-16-2017, 09:59 AM
In this parallel universe of sorts, I'd imagine that Ameliaville MSA would be much like NYC and would have its own city championships and then the winner of that association would go on and play in the regular MHSA state tournament.

Because right now, the biggest high school in Montana doesn't have 2,000 students. I do not recall the biggest high school in our area, but there are a number of HS with over 1,000 students and something like over 90,000 HS students citywise at last check, so I can imagine how playing those schools in a state tournament would seem unfair over time.

Plus travel is kind of a mess anyway.

If you ever read this and want to pick a high school to be good, you can and I'll make sure more recruits come from there over that period. Like I said, I'm not really editing anybody, just change names and high schools during the early period before recruiting really gets going. Creating recruits for the game is way too tedious and I've done it in the past. Some states generate a surplus of 1-star recruits which makes it a bit easier to fill Montana with those kids, with the occasional good player from a state with lots of them. "Imagine families moving to Ameliaville to get more scholarship looks than staying in a bloated state."

Brian Swartz
01-16-2017, 10:10 AM
The amount of effort you put into layout, organization, etc. here is beyond astounding.

I declare this thread to have surpassed the dynasty stage, and have become a full-blown work of art!

Young Drachma
01-16-2017, 01:00 PM
The amount of effort you put into layout, organization, etc. here is beyond astounding.

I declare this thread to have surpassed the dynasty stage, and have become a full-blown work of art!

I always appreciate that you notice, haha. So much dorktasticness.

bbgunn
01-16-2017, 08:45 PM
I concur.

EagleFan
01-16-2017, 09:10 PM
The amount of effort you put into layout, organization, etc. here is beyond astounding.

I declare this thread to have surpassed the dynasty stage, and have become a full-blown work of art!

This.

Young Drachma
01-16-2017, 10:59 PM
Road name got fixed. I'll likely be naming streets until I fall asleep.

Young Drachma
01-17-2017, 09:04 AM
There aren't many industrial areas left in town, by my design, but the last one is called Silkwood. It's adjacent to Far North, the furthest point of Messier, wedged between Prime Minister Island (where no one lives) and the northeast of the city (The Dauphin/Milwaukie/Highland Estates) and to its west, we have Chauncey which is way more residential.

For now, the area endures as the lone industrial part of the city, but will it last?

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Young Drachma
01-17-2017, 09:08 AM
Here's a current view of the downtown area (Messier)

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Young Drachma
01-17-2017, 09:11 AM
I am a sucker for a downtown ballpark. I finally got a downtown (well South of Downtown) where I could nestle one into.

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Young Drachma
01-17-2017, 09:51 AM
Downtown Pillsbrook

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Aerial view of Pillsbrook, it's got a very "Queens" vibe if you wanna speak NYC parlance.

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EagleFan
01-17-2017, 04:48 PM
Haven't played this in a while. This thread makes me want to fire it back up. Awaiting the unavoidable disappointment that I won't end up making anything that looks that nice. :-)

Young Drachma
01-17-2017, 06:27 PM
Haven't played this in a while. This thread makes me want to fire it back up. Awaiting the unavoidable disappointment that I won't end up making anything that looks that nice. :-)

Haha, I'd suggest hitting up the Steam Workshop and finding someone else's city already built and then tweaking it in your own image. I find that is harder than doing it from scratch and you spend less time building pipes and roads and more time growing or redeveloping your city.

Young Drachma
01-17-2017, 08:02 PM
The bus thing is giving me a headache, but I really want to solve this now that I can name streets/roads.

So my new redevelopment mass transit idea is focused on the METRO and bus system.

I'm going to rely fairly heavily on metro transit around the city, since that system is pretty mature and there's a decent amount of ridership. I'm going to change the bus setup to work only on major roads OR only to serve neighborhoods. So no more buses that traverse from different parts of the city, though I'll probably keep lines that go between different bus depots too.

I just need to do this in a logical way for my brain, without having to lay a ton of bus stops around the city that probably won't get used because it's clearly not working as I've got it now.

So off to attempt this, which is likely to lead to some kind of new naming/numbering system for bus/METRO in the city.

The crux of this deal is that I'd like to be able to know how to get from one part of town to another. I've only now begun to really get a sense of where the neighborhoods are and what part of town is what. But I still don't have a sense via roads and certainly not mass transit how you'd do that. Before I do ANYMORE building or development, I'd like to put this into action and then I can start figuring out what to do next.

I got the growth I wanted in spades, but I still don't have a handle on transportation besides driving which works well.

Young Drachma
01-18-2017, 08:17 AM
I rebuilt the lines last night. We've got over 40 bus lines now, the METRO lines are at around 21, but I'm increasing that number too and I'll add more neighborhood bus lines over the city as we move on, but after rebuilding the lines last night, I let the game run 6 hours on its own to make sure the lines would repopulate, etc., and so far, bus ridership is up significantly from any other time in this city.

http://i.imgur.com/VbwWiAx.png

Bus ridership actually outpaces METRO ridership right now, but I need to rework the subways to get them working how they were when we first took over the city. There might be some overlapping lines, but essentially, I'd like to have lines heading in both directions N/S or E/W.

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Young Drachma
01-18-2017, 08:24 AM
I'm going to go back and replicate the lines (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=3133328&postcount=94) I had on the previous page, as those lines were almost all North to South or East to West lines. I think they'll probably operate as express lines rather than how I had them before, if I could create 4 or 5 express lines that basically converge all in the middle of the city -- there isn't a major subway depot in the middle of the city, just a train one -- I bet that would work in tandem with the smaller lines I have working.

There are probably some tweaks needed to my existing lines, too. But I think I can get ridership back up into tens of thousands per day on subways, even with the uptick in bus traffic, largely because the population of the city has grown (again).

The most interesting thing is that the lack of subways has gotten people to start using the tram system more. It's not ubiquitous across the city, it's mostly a Central Messier and Downtown and maybe SoDo (I don't recall) thing but we've never had that much ridership on the trams ever. So that's been cool because I haven't touched those lines at all and don't intend to.

Young Drachma
01-18-2017, 10:33 PM
From today's visit to town. Shots from Downtown/Ironwood area including the downtown transit terminal. One shot from Stobben. More detail later tho.

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Young Drachma
01-20-2017, 11:30 PM
The bus situation has improved a lot, we have more lines and I bet I could make them more efficient, but I'm not going to worry about that now.

I decided I didn't like the subway lines I'd laid, so I went through and removed them and I'm going to try again. It would be easier in a sense if I could relay the subway tubes from scratch, but that's just work I'm not willing to untake plus it feels more realistic to work around the constraints.

I noticed when I did this the last time, the lines that had a lot of stops seemed to do better. This time, I found that cross-town lines work better than just having regional lines that force you to do a transfer. So I think what I'll do is have lines that effectively go east/west & north/south. They'll just intersect at the center of the city and I'll see if that works.

Young Drachma
01-21-2017, 05:55 PM
I've significantly improved the transit situation on my third try. The key is you need long lines that stretch N/S or E/W from one part of town clear to the other with stops in-between, rather than thinking people will take more than one line to get where they want to go.

They'll transfer, but they'd just prefer a line that takes them out of their neighborhood or else, they'd just opt to drive. I mean, that makes sense but I couldn't get myself out of the habit of making lines that didn't make sense or there weren't enough lines going places to make it worth waiting for a train because the times were too long.

I still probably need to add more lines, but we're at 20 lines right now and I have more ridership than I had when I had 25. We're not at the over 19k that we had when I first inherited the city, but I am making progress towards getting back into the 10k range which is/was my goal.

In other news, there's a huge traffic snarl over in the Circle City area where Helensburgh traffic enters the city.

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Young Drachma
01-22-2017, 01:11 PM
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Monument Square
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Aerial view of Monument Square
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View of the Pillsbrook Shore
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Pillsbrook Boulevard, Pillsbrook
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Young Drachma
01-22-2017, 01:31 PM
I might, for the sake of not having people sift through three pages, fork this dynasty into a deal where I profile the specific neighborhoods in Helensburgh MSA. I've gone through and redetailed the map of the various areas, though there are still others that have yet to be named/developed, we've got a solid set to work from. I'd like to show more detail about the various neighborhoods, even if they're not especially distinctive (detail work not being my forte) at least we can see some pics of the various spaces and let whatever is there tell some kind of story.

I think I'm done dealing with subway lines, mostly because I think at the size of the city being where it is, the game has a harder time dealing with the numbers and I think it's just generally buggy or whatever and at the end of the day, none of it really matters all that much.

There's a possibility I'll do a thing where I try to identify where a recruit for FBCB is from or whatever, but no promises.

Young Drachma
03-18-2017, 02:50 PM
This game is too engrossing so I tend to have to avoid it, but I've been wanting to get back into my cities and at least show you what I'd been working on the last time I had any real time to work on it, because there are some new neighborhoods and independent cities in the area that I haven't recorded here.

I've probably redone the subway and bus lines at least once or twice since the last time I posted in here, too. I have no idea whether it's working or not, but I'm kind of over it now until they release the new mass transit DLC and then I'll be able to work on it again, because there are just fundamental problems with the way it's setup so I'm not even going to worry about accuracy anymore at this point in this particular city.

The most notable new addition to the city -- and I'm not even sure if it's part of the city at all -- is San Felipe. There are (adjusted) about 54k people living in the community. With subway access, it makes for basically living in Hoboken or somewhere in Jersey when you can't afford to live in NYC. It's still a bit sleepy, but it's getting more interesting as time goes on.

http://i.imgur.com/f2cWIpc.jpg (http://imgur.com/f2cWIpc)


Here's a map where you can see the far north parts of Helensburgh MSA and then San Felipe on its own in the far north peninsula of the map with University Heights/Milwaukie to the east, which also contains the only bridge/driving access to the main parts of the city. Otherwise, there's only subway access.

Average rents in San Felipe for a 700 sq. ft. apartment is $1,054mo. Contrasted by the city average rent of $2,715/mo., you can see why it's becoming an attractive place to live despite its sleepy reputation and distance from the main parts of the city.

http://i.imgur.com/d5KW130.jpg (http://imgur.com/d5KW130)

Young Drachma
03-18-2017, 02:51 PM
This is the view of downtown from San Felipe, it's in the distance there.

http://i.imgur.com/N3Q5Ce8.jpg (http://imgur.com/N3Q5Ce8)

Young Drachma
03-26-2017, 08:51 PM
I go back and forth between using the original name of this city (Helensburgh) which I came up with randomly and the renamed version (Ameliaville) but for context, it's the same place.

It's just the people voted to change the name of the city back to its original name, so...that's what I had to do.

I've been wanting to showcase the various neighborhoods for awhile and at least give a capsule of the different areas, their populations and perhaps what makes them interesting or distinctive or who lives there because I don't really know right now.

I'd prefer to do this before I go building anymore areas in the city, especially now that San Felipe exists, because I can't really decide where else we'll build right now and when I do, I need to really understand people's motivation for moving further out other than financial reasons or whatever and perhaps, I can use these stories as a way to stitch the identity of these new communities and to decide whether they're even part of the city or not.

In game, the population is 659,090 which translates to about 5.5 million people in real #.

Here are aerial views of the neighborhoods on the South Side of town.

http://i.imgur.com/Sp3sfZs.png

Pillsbrookis the Southeast quadrant of the city with an estimated 833k people living there. Average rent there is consistent with the rest of the city at about $1,829/mo for a 2 BR. But home values there are WAY lower than the city average ($403k) at $193k for a single-family home. Needless to say, the Pillsbrook area is growing as a result. Many of the neighborhoods there are actually not named, most people opting to claim "South Side" residence for whatever reason.

Pillsbrook reminds me of Queens. Homes where you can still have a driveway, decent subway access to the city with bus lines too and relatively affordable, but quite boring relative to the downtown area or other parts of the city.


Stobben

http://i.imgur.com/31NCmh9.png

Stobben is in the South/Southwest quadrant of the city. It's home nearly a million people and is the most populated charter of the six. Stobben is growing like a weed due to its proximity to Downtown and with an increased number of young people moving there due to be priced out of downtown and the lower downtown in recent years.

There is a party district called the Playhouse district which isn't really much about theater anymore, it has a lot of clubs.

I'll highlight the other parts of town in a future post.


My next task is to get down and show you the various neighborhoods themselves, but wanted to do a high level view of them before I did that (even if I've done it in the past...)

Young Drachma
05-20-2017, 03:27 PM
With the new mass transit DLC out for Skylines, I've gone back to the beginning of my Helensburgh map, renamed the city New Halifax and I'm going to rebuild the suburbs and remake neighborhoods all over again. A lot of the older mods cause conflicts with loading old save games, so I needed to start at a vanilla save to be able to get the game to load.

It'll be an interesting opportunity to relearn the city again, and also rework the transit situation around the city. We'll see if I do a better job this time of making it feel more like a functional city than last time and how the suburbs grow, too.

Young Drachma
05-21-2017, 09:05 PM
Mayoral elections

One of the wrinkles I'm adding to impact the way I grow the city (or not) is through mayor elections. They'll be randomized (http://www.randomresult.com/), so it's not like I can influence the election really. But we'll have different candidates who'll advocate for different things and based on how they do in the primary, we'll do a runoff election of the top two candidates. Because it'll be a lot of chaos, in theory, you could have fringe candidates mucking things up.

While the Mayor influences policy, the "City Manager" is the non-politican we get to play in our story and who'll actually carry out the policy prescriptions related to higher/lower taxes, growth in certain areas and so forth. There will be council members who voice concerns for their particular areas too, but I haven't decided how that'll impact anything.

Really, I just want to be more deliberate about how we grow this time. Growth is already happening around the city and of course, there will be suburbs that sprout up outside of the city limits too and might eventually factor into the story, but...I'd just be intrigued to see how it changes the direction of what we do and how we do it around the city.

Here are the current political parties in the city:
Advanced Civic League (Right-Wing party. Favors lower taxes for businesses, increasing policing in neighborhoods and limiting growth to the suburbs rather than in the core city.)

Compromise Movement (Centrist. Pro-growth, moderate on policies like drug decriminalization, NIMBY and spending on infrastructure.)

Citizens Alliance (Left of center. NIMBY. Pro-education spending. Hard on crime. Likes Parks.)

The Nature League (Left-wing. Wants fewer roads and more mass transit options. NIMBY. Wants more dense housing options to bring down rents and fewer single-family homes in the city limits.)

Contemporary Party The Contemporary Party are the incumbent party in office and have led the city for the past 26 years. Mayor Amos Marcotte is retiring after turning a sleepy city into a booming metropolis and now the race to replace him is huge. TCP are a left-wing party that favor heavy spending on local social welfare, moderate taxation and investing in growth.

Rural Peoples Party RPP are a small, fringe party mostly concerned with agrarian concerns. They're against annexation of small cities outside of the city limits, want rules enforced on single-family development and typically oppose multi-family dwellings, mass transit or anything that would disrupt the "character of rural life."

Progress League This left-wing splinter is full of Contemporary party exiles (and others) who felt their party was too in bed with corporate interests. Progress favors more local schools in neighborhoods, expanding transit access around the city, bike lanes and stabilizing tax rates. They're also adamant about removing industry from the core parts of the city in favor of more housing, a big wedge issue between the two parties.

Here are the primary candidates for each party in the '21 election:

Cory Bates (ACL)
Harvey Franco (COM)
Sophia Flynn (CIT)
Wendy Sargent (NAT)
Aurinda Sinclair (CNT)
Georgine Gibson (RUR)
Keven Turcotte (PROG)

The top two candidates advance to a runoff.

Young Drachma
05-21-2017, 09:22 PM
I did the election via a draft pick lottery, that way, I could ensure that the result wasn't completely insane but that minor party candidates had a theoretical chance at advancing to a runoff.

Parties in order of polling rank:
Contemporary
Progress
Citizens
Civic
Compromise
Rural
Nature

After the primary election, the top two vote getters were:

Aurinda Sinclair & Cory Bates.

Keven Turcotte came in 3rd, Sophia Flynn 4th, Harvey Franco 5th, Georgine Gibson 6th and Wendy Sargent 7th.

The runoff is interesting because you have two different visions for the future of the city over the next term. In either case, you get a status quo type of moving forward, except I think ACL might be more aggressive about a lot of things that Contemporary would probably be less interested in (like increasing police spending) and the city itself would probably stay relatively staid. Entertainment options probably won't expand much.

Anyway, the general election happens and with Contemporary polling with a 6 point lead heading into election Sunday.

In the end, Contemporary wins the election 52-33 (with 15% of the vote abstentions.) Aurinda Sinclair becomes the city's first female mayor.

Young Drachma
05-21-2017, 11:06 PM
First order of business (naturally) is figuring out what road we can name for Amos Marcotte, longtime mayor.

Now that Cities Skylines has named roads, it's an easy thing to do.

There is an avenue that stretches from way East all the way through downtown past the Outer West Side and then loops back around. Seems appropriate for a guy who shaped the city's future through his work.

Here's a view of the newly named Amos Marcotte Blvd. from downtown looking west. I stuck a monorail track around a loop West of Downtown, just because I could, but so far nobody is really riding it.

http://i.imgur.com/UFoIk4xh.png

Young Drachma
05-22-2017, 12:15 PM
I created a parallel FM league (taking over New Zealand) that has 16 teams based in this fictional city of New Halifax (and suburbs). I'm working on simming a bunch of years and then the idea is to see whether enough talent ever develops to propel the country out of the doldrums.

There is no promotion/relegation in the league and the top 5 teams after the regular season (of 30 games) make the playoffs.

http://i.imgur.com/cVfCE5e.png

http://i.imgur.com/XjaG8dB.png

Young Drachma
05-25-2017, 09:50 AM
The first part of the Ironwood redevelopment Initiative is a neighborhood called New Northeast.

Ironwood is just east of Downtown, separated by the M1 highway.

Here's the before of Ironwood:
http://i.imgur.com/L7nzAECl.png

Here's Ironwood after the industrial buildings started being cleared:
http://i.imgur.com/MyTZYgPl.png

That view of the Mountain has to be worth a significant addition to rental properties, especially for rooftop decks.
http://i.imgur.com/nCvltR1l.png

Here's the present view of what is now known as the New Northeast neighborhood

http://i.imgur.com/ax3NKPrm.png

Young Drachma
05-26-2017, 08:35 AM
Went commuting last night with two different people around town.

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Young Drachma
05-30-2017, 09:04 AM
New city. Called Las Annitas.

http://i.imgur.com/zeFxOWdh.png

http://i.imgur.com/KuBvh8wh.png

http://i.imgur.com/ZkbSNSWh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ttbS2Nvh.png

http://i.imgur.com/kaeiFmYh.png

http://i.imgur.com/XTASv8Lh.png

http://i.imgur.com/jlyXNM9h.png

Young Drachma
06-05-2017, 09:29 AM
The city is over a million people (adjusted for realism) and I'd been wanting to put an arena in town since that seemed like a realistic want. I was trying to fit the United Center into downtown, but ended up downloading the Jazz's former Delta Center because it was a bit easier to fit as a rectangle, but only because I razed a corner on the far north end of downtown

Here's the before and after (post-eliminating the street anyway)

http://i.imgur.com/1qC7XAkh.png

http://i.imgur.com/DEcpO8Sh.png

Young Drachma
08-21-2017, 02:51 PM
I'd been wanting to build an anchor suburb in Las Annitas. Yesterday, I managed to do it. It's called Santa Miranda and I merged it with Cape Ainee, a far east side neighborhood in Las Annitas and so now it's for sure the largest suburb.

There's a rail station, a subway stop and two bus lines that service the area. (Maybe 3, actually.)

These views give you a glimpse of the area looking towards downtown in the distance.

http://i.imgur.com/yZT4IMnh.png
http://i.imgur.com/BaT90HZh.png

Far edge of Santa Miranda (a neighborhood called Dos Miranda) which is home to a soccer stadium & the HS baseball field.

http://i.imgur.com/F0575VHh.png

Aerial view

http://i.imgur.com/cinOmTWh.png

Cape Ainee (now part of Santa Miranda) Everything you see in the distance didn't exist initially, I've expanded the city a lot.

http://i.imgur.com/rIqSHJxh.png

Young Drachma
10-02-2017, 08:33 AM
Had to do some rebuilding. This is the view of the city from Heart Lake.

https://i.imgur.com/KTbuf96h.png

The stadiums are in an area of Messier renamed City Center

https://i.imgur.com/4AvsBmuh.png

https://i.imgur.com/0H6hP2Kh.png

Most recent neighborhood view of the city:

https://i.imgur.com/LywRUNVh.png

Young Drachma
10-08-2017, 09:57 PM
I wanted to build a new arena in (the city formerly known as Helensburgh) but wasn't exactly sure where I wanted to build it.

Ultimately decided on the South End of town. Razed the businesses inhabiting that block and it looked like this:

https://i.imgur.com/x3uMtKX.png


Here's the after when the arena was complete.

https://i.imgur.com/Fc1ojlf.png

Young Drachma
09-16-2018, 05:35 PM
I hadn't been able to play Skylines in a while because I was using it on a work machine for a long time, then I switched jobs and my local machine can't run it. I finally got a cloud machine last weekend, so I could run it again (I didn't want to buy a computer ONLY to play Skylines, but I considered it.)

For the uninitiated, what I've done over the years is take over existing save games and redevelop cities because I don't have the time to invest in building cities from scratch as I used to (and even if I did, it's probably a bad idea for me to spend days at a time doing it. Because trust me, I would...)

I like the constraints of having to build within a city with roads, highways and so forth, because it makes me deal with infrastructure and take a more measured approach to growing and changing the city, rather than starting from scratch and doing whatever I want. (Which I like doing too, but there's a time and place for that.)

So I'm building on another city. This time, I named it Chisholm. I'm working on some redevelopment projects, the population remains fixed from when I first took over (181k in game....)

https://previews.dropbox.com/p/thumb/AAK449E2vFUVFHDJxUQKv-PxWzYZ1Tx30ZNsVDaEsqKdA6-4kvDMH0WggW31X1fNgeU1qulD44s7ToM1qfVgiG-2wan6gvaiB2RQiCMOqyd7xr55O5w2LXBeSmRE3vVAW3qsXLj355IRGGSf6ZTjmV3iozDTdeICxW2MlpeiJWXPRJgUVXMsJ3gVtOyiMaqrjTcrJ74hckdXKXCrmn8fvc0UCc7n3BuZo7cIrCMBieXyrrVL8EblA0SgG9vMHo_3urAnJDP0zbm0hjCryX6lgeuP_WYQ6XDDUrSEx8jn7x9_KJfVKtNPgr-FL1EPw-XoeIU_FGkr2tEkINoRAdrlQ9JIQzX7EGoat7KiJBlrNJva3FIbpfp6grtsYguU5Hk4RM2tSAEVsaZroecZ0AUqu9a9tVnMhu5oD4NOSB63Cc2Mm452RlJPS38oMtVWW3FNtaJE9_35nhT-KsALSmxPPqoII6ZTYYijCicoI8xb5-YRkcRCKYe_PNWwkOe-3uBuwQa1FaCFLSYniFZOk2Vn3wevL5NNBO_49LXT8xjlsayaSrWewUBQEQvxNNQRAK4DmNIfco0bukaCsikmUo0WnTVay99w7mSB-qaDmhelcQfCgd88qYQFYxVIfj50zCNSBmS_t5Sw9oleWQo3i7pkjTzzmJYbWf1sugMc1IF4OP8EhkfYYprYzFzkR1E6PMgdVhUZ22J_xz2_iTNFKTwoRYgTfBdLFvt4Ctv8g8AQOLVL0Grmqbx80yjPp2HCGzLbz-rkgbZZpbBYKK86lDop_O7MipXorMTZOsJ94rdaFgUxZGuk3G_vslvvbz3qURFw2cfTVJ9nS9N2Lu6ZkUDOsO46Z1arDwsvybcS-j3iD56NgaRvQaf18_1I-PI6tx0rZz4KLIcjqINOeJC6b0MFud9q4MuvyuiNmSO7GIz7jHt6xhzqUHWYxEHlukzMqav7dgAkyHoNsw03T9MRKk7dGFxg6CAUqESrCP37fIMcsM74YBH7VK7OluTfEQAdP10lbfz0REXrljT94GLX-YzoxavUt6xl9_lGwRu9nZaeVS-ln29pZz7EvlT6fdtxucCqM2bO2jPmor2S8D0Q8WmFNh3QRs7t4zRGjA5dBpk4jLYW9W45d2gPdGQOwCkE4_oMKrtxlEi6fCIfYI27UJ2E_1BiWRNXXQV4vnCpCIwV3E8hBXOaB7d5uMQLeRtGhg2vZS1MvT4NhZrtW-MagmBYS9kNF9qu2AFLxTI6ejvThPDBzfK6VqjrnixT-GeABEeTroEGzN0IzBQcpNeNhrKaQPMsOC2OehpnrruM4cFCri9xX4kyl-s5hbjc3andsJotCEVhbctBTK_6BfIGznIqwDYDUXo-1T_ljc7Jak8q8b5_547-bR0cGxql_edojl5-hHyE_OAe0qc_oFS9ZHCdgptS0ye9COJUBNc3lXz4jj48qQ/p.png?size=2048x1536&size_mode=3

So far, all I've done is add a few stadiums and remove some of the spawned skyscrapers to make the city look more realistic to me. I'm getting a feel for the city limits, renaming neighborhoods.

The first real development project I can foresee is turning a largely industrial agriculture area of the city (I've named it Hogwood) into more mixed use residential/commercial.

Also for my own immersion, finally started posting pics on Instagram of my city work. (https://www.instagram.com/avirtualtourist/)

Young Drachma
01-07-2019, 07:19 PM
I got back into the game last fall, but the latest city build I had I lost when I let my cloud gaming rig lapse. I'm working on a new city now that I've enjoyed way more because it was under 20k population when I started and now we're nearing 100k.