Training Updates

[BishopMVP]

Good news: I had 3 players pop this week, 2 to passable and 1 to solid :D
Better News: They're keepers:p

Looks like I'll be getting about 350,000 dollars soon. If this had happened a week ago I could have bid on Ernest Quarles, the 17yo solid and had one semi-permanent trainee. It looks like the day-training has worked well though.

[FrogMan]

quick question, how can you get three keepers to pop in a week?

You can only train two, or did you just buy one and he had played a game elsewhere??

FM
PS: you suck! :D

[Eilim]

Pretty much the same for me, but in the midfield.. Had my 17yo pull from last week pop to passable and two 18yo trainees bumpup to passable and solid in playmaking.

I really thought my two starters were going to pop to solid this week too. :( Oh well, it leaves me something to look forward to next week.

Oh, I did almost forget.. my 31yo defender also popped to weak in playmaking. That makes the third week in a row a different 27yo+ defender has bumped up in playmaking, I might have to start playing them offensively soon.

[Jets80]

Grats on the popping of your keepers and Mids

Due do the major shake up with my lineup this week I decided to train general this week at 99%. Was very pleased with the results as I now have 3 starters with excellent form, 5 with Solid and 3 with passable.

Hope to run over my sub par opponent this week and maybe even injure a few of his guys in the process.

[TredWel]

Had a very good training week. Practically all of my starters either stopped their collective form decrease, or actually made progress. Had one of my midfield trainees pop to passable (2 in two weeks), and had one of my starting middies pop to excellent (my first excellent skill ever!)

[McSweeny]

my inad keeper who i pulled this week popped to passable. And i sold off my old passable today for $100k. If i can do the same with this kid i'll be well on my way to getting out of my massive debt

[Doug5984]

woo-hoo!!!! I just got home from work open up ham and check out my team and 3 players pop, what makes it even better is that all 3 players were B-teamer trainiees and 2 central defenders went to solid (1 of them I think I will acctually promote to the A team since he is also in solid form and has a really cool name, Havard Gravbot). And one of my wingback trainiees just bumped to passable, so he is now psasable / passable. What makes this even better is I was not expecting any of these players to bump this week, i was expecting another guy but he didn't all 3 of these came as a suprise. I will be putting an 18 year old solid defender on the transfer list tomorrow if anyone wants one. His name is Ralph Batts. Now I am off to go stare at the HAM screen somemore.

[dacman]

Rather ho/hum week -- 7 form decreases(both goalies!), 5 increases. One playmaking trainee to passable -- another I was expecting to pop did not -- maybe next week. Then I'm looking at a long stretch with no one popping.

[AccardoOutfit29]

I had a pretty great week. Two keepers popped. One popped up to excellent. :D And the other popped to passable so he will be going on the transfer list soon.

[Rich1033]

Uggh. I switched from scoring to goaltending for a week to try and make some extra money. My last youth pull, an 18 yo Inad keeper valued at $142,000, did pop to passable with a value of $163,000. However I also bought a 19 yo keeper valued at $258,000 thinking that it would only take him a week to get to solid. Nope. He is valued at $284,000 but still passable. Now I have to stay with keeper training for an extra week.

The only problem I have with that is a 17 yo passable winger/passable scorer who need some scoring training will have to wait another week :(

[PilotMan]

I took some form hits and got a couole of form advances. I thought one of my solid middies was going to pop excellent, but it hasn't happend yet. Maybe next week. In fact, i should be closing in on a whole slew of pops in the near future.

[rheumatic duck]

Anyone know why my Solid Keeper who was valued at 300K dropped to 283K, even though I was training keeper? His form did not decrease and he is not injured. He is only 19, so what is the deal?

[rheumatic duck]

dola, and my team is in 5th right now, and its 2 weeks old. My team pretty much sucks, but I just beat the last place team playing at their place 4-0. Should I PIC against them this week at home, and would I do good to train stamina or general for the next couple of weeks. I doubt I'll get up to 4th, so should I just prepare for a playoff game?

[FrogMan]

even though his form didn't drop on the surface, it might have declined from say a high passable (very close to solid) to a low passable (very close to inadequate)... Skills and such are not integer values, but they vary from one end of the spectrum to the other...

Hope this helps.

FM

[DataKing]

Both starting wingbacks for the Screamin' Seamen (Arlen Lucas and Tyler Willard) improved to formidable defending.

More details will be posted soon in my dynasty report.

[BishopMVP]

Originally posted by FrogMan
quick question, how can you get three keepers to pop in a week?

Trained two, bought a high inadequate who was bruised, but training last night at 3:00 HT-Time figuring at worst I could use him in the friendly this coming week and pop him up, but then I look after the update and see that he popped this week.

I think the You Suck award can also go to DK. I wish I had some formidables. Even some excellents. I am way too jittery and impatient to stick with the long-term training necessary, but I admire those who do it well. If I get up to III or a hard IV division I'll probably have to switch training and go playmaking but for now I like the quick return that daytraining GK's provides.

[FrogMan]

Oh, the "you suck" award is more for you, since we started playing at about the same time and are dealing with the same issues and I really would like to have 350K to spend right now.

I'm just like you in a sense that I'm still not holding to players who have just popped. I'm selling back most of my trainees once they pop one level. Bought a 17 y/o passable playmaker yesterday that I might keep for a long time though. Got him cheap too, only 27K. Sometimes shopping in Sweden can get you a deal...

FM

[FrogMan]

dola, to add that that passable playmaker wasn't even a newly popped player. He was pulled on May 19th, so he might be closer to solid than the regular full 7 weeks. Holding to him could mean he could pop to solid before the end of this season and get to excellent by midseason next season, and maybe the other level (formidable?) by the end of next season, when he'll be 18... :drool: :)

FM

[BishopMVP]

I think the next level is outstanding. It's not like I really need to know with the players I have. ;) Oh, and an 18 yo outstanding playmaker just might net you 350k.

[daedalus]

Wouldn't an 18YO outstanding playmaker net you more? Just taking a glance last night at 24-30YO players with solid playmaking, I noticed more than a couple in the 250-350 range
.

[Coffee Warlord]

18 year old outstanding will net a helluva lot more than 350k.

An excellent PM will likely net you that much, regardless of age.

[TargetPractice6]

Formidable is after excellent though... so he could be formidable by his 19th birthday at best.

Deatails of my update can be found in my dynasty report ^^

[FrogMan]

well formidable by his 19th birthday is like 1000 times better than anything I can afford right now, unless I pull a solid playmaker, but I doubt it'll happen, so I'll hang to my 17 y.o. passable playmaker until late next season.

I'm kind of excited about this turn of event as this is the first time ever that I'm thinking about keeping a player beyond his next level...

FM

[BishopMVP]

Originally posted by daedalus
Wouldn't an 18YO outstanding playmaker net you more? Just taking a glance last night at 24-30YO players with solid playmaking, I noticed more than a couple in the 250-350 range
.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic there. And TP6 is right, formidable is before outstanding. Not like I really need to know with my team.:(

[terpkristin]

Originally posted by rheumatic duck
Anyone know why my Solid Keeper who was valued at 300K dropped to 283K, even though I was training keeper? His form did not decrease and he is not injured. He is only 19, so what is the deal?

Did he play well in the most recent game?
I've had players drop after poor game performances (at least, that's what I've been blaming it on :D )

[BishopMVP]

Just saw an 18yo formidable Playmaker going for 2M with an hour left, so that is probably a baseline for what to expect if you follow through Frogman.

[Nyarlahotep]

I had two keepers pop. One went to solid and the other to passable. Then I pulled a very high passable keeper last night, so the other passable trainee is on his way out.

[FrogMan]

Originally posted by BishopMVP
Just saw an 18yo formidable Playmaker going for 2M with an hour left, so that is probably a baseline for what to expect if you follow through Frogman.

HOLY MACARONI!!! :eek: I need to try and remember that. Do you remember what kind of other skills the player had?

My trainee isn't very impressive in his other aspect, but for me a 17yo passable playmaker/passable stamina is quite perfect for now. I plan on training stamina at least once per season, maybe twice...

Thanks for the info, Bishop.

FM

[TargetPractice6]

If you don't have anyone better, there wouldn't any sense ins elling him at that point though. I mean you could make upgrades to other parts of your team... but midfield is the most dominate area at the moment. So, if things don't change too much you might consider keeping him to be a starter.

[FrogMan]

TP6, I agree with what you said. We are talking about something that'll happen in a season and a half from now. Maybe I'll have pulled a good trainee or two at that point or might have found one or two other 17yo passable. Currently, given his young age, he's my best inner mid. I have two other passable playmaker, one of them is 19 and just popped and the other one is 22 and was one of my first few transfer market buys, when I was learning that midfield was important but didn't have a clue about training. I keep giving him training in hope that he'll pop and the I'll sell him to get a few 17/18 yo passable playmaker... Hope I make sense, I still think a lot like a div V team, which I am :)

Other thing that may happen in a season and a half is I may be struggling in the middle of a div IV league (I should promote after this season, but after that, who knows). If that happen, I might be then tempted to reevaluate what I could do with themoney brought by that kind of a sell. Selling that kind of player would have to be based on the fact that I have other players that could be starters instead of him... Still far far away from now. I just like that fact that I can start thinking about stuff like that. I feel like I'm getting a little bit of a better grip on what I'm doing. Not bad, it took me about 14 weeks to do that :)

FM

[FrogMan]

dola...

Also, the importance of midfield could very well change in a season and a half. How, I don't know, but it could...

FM

[TargetPractice6]

My strategy was to train up a good set of starters first, and then start selling lesser trainees (once they were good enough to bring in a nice sum of money). For example, notice Ryan Jude on my team. He is magnificent at the moment, and should go world class in a few weeks. He was 18 years old and solid when I got my team (yes he came with my team).

That's why I don't think complete daytraining is a good idea. I mean, I see how it could be useful when doing it witha couple training slots. However, if you stick with a few playmakers you can get a very good starting midfield. And if you notice, a player's market value (not HT value) seems to increase more when he pops at a higher level. I mean the market value of a player increases more between excellent and formidable than it does between passable and solid. It's just one of the those short term vs. long term issues.

[daedalus]

Originally posted by BishopMVP
Yeah, I was being sarcastic there. And TP6 is right, formidable is before outstanding. Not like I really need to know with my team.:(

Oh. Upes, that's my bad then. I didn't catch that and got confused. Sorry about that.

I'm with you, though . . . with my team, I need to know the order up to solid and I'm set. :)

[BishopMVP]

This is the player I was talking about, sold in Hrvatska (Croatia). I think he had passable stamina and nothing else better than weak, but I'm not sure at all. I do remember he was listed at 1.6m and bid up to 2m. Also, he tossed up ***~ in his best match, while playing IM offensively.

Raul Andronache (7049289)
18 years, solid form, healthy

A controversial person who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: România
Assessed value: 359 000 US$
Wage: 2 004 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Pi's
Warnings: 0


Also, this guy sold in Danmark for 2.3 million and it looks like his new owner is trying to daytrade him for more.

Halvor Myhre (4122911)
22 years, solid form, healthy

A popular guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: Norge
Assessed value: 480 000 US$

Stamina: excellent Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: outstanding Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak