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Havok
06-04-2003, 08:38 PM
ok... i just got done playing my FOFC friendly and the ratings kinda bothered me.

Nyar ran a 3-5-2. His 3 defenders got a whopping 5 stars and his goalie got 2 1/2. Thats 7 1/2 total.

i ran a 5-4-1 and my 5 defenders picked up 10 1/2 stars and my goalie got me 2 1/2 stars. Thats a total of 13 stars.


Somehow we still got the same defensive ratings.


Arkham Avengers
Player rating and Team formation
Right Side Defence: solid
Central Defence: solid
Left Side Defence: passable

Maniacal Misfitz
Player rating and Team formation
Right Side Defence: passable
Central Defence: solid
Left Side Defence: solid



Somebody please explain this to me???

Nyarlahotep
06-04-2003, 08:45 PM
I am God.

FrogMan
06-04-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
I am God.

ROFL!!! :D :D

Quote of the day!

The Afoci
06-04-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
I am God.

I think that about sums it up.

Nyarlahotep
06-04-2003, 08:51 PM
I guess I should clearify: I am a god, maybe not as well known as God, but at least as powerful and much less jealous.

Havok
06-04-2003, 08:56 PM
Thats hysterical.... really it is.

But does anyone actually know why that is??? its not just this game. it happens all the time in HT.

Coffee Warlord
06-04-2003, 08:56 PM
Ahem.

You fail to realize.

Stars are evil.

Havok
06-04-2003, 09:04 PM
so 3 inadequate defenders(1 will pop tommarrow), 2 passable defenders (1 very high passable) and 1 passable goalie.

Are equal 2 passable defenders, 1 inadequate and 1 high passable goalie??

Just doesn't make alot of sense me, i could be wrong. Im just trying to figure out how the HT engine calculates defensive
ratings.


I'll be running a 3-5-2 next year in league games, simply because its much more important to have 1 more forward then 1 more defender.

PilotMan
06-04-2003, 09:23 PM
Depending on how the midfields were set up, as well as the defensive abilities of the midfielders who played normal or defensive. It would have an impact on the overall defensive rating.

Without looking at anything, that is one plausible explination.

The Afoci
06-04-2003, 09:26 PM
Yeah, in hattrick, d seems to be less important than offense. But none of that matters with out middies, sadly.

RonnieDobbs
06-04-2003, 09:33 PM
Is your coach all out? Is his defensive?

Eilim
06-04-2003, 09:35 PM
Arkham Avengers Coach

Everett Heller (10595568)
44 years, poor form, healthy
A passable coach who is defensive minded
A pleasant guy who is balanced and righteous.
Has inadequate experience and passable leadership abilities


RonnieDobbs was thinking the same thing I was.

Havok
06-04-2003, 09:42 PM
actually i asked this same question on the Conferance boards trying to figure out how this happened and they all said that that coaches play a big part in it. I never knew that the coach had such a big impact.

At least now i know and im kinda glad actually. I like the fact that coaches play more of a role then just training.

Nyarlahotep
06-04-2003, 09:46 PM
I think the keeper plays a big part as well.

Eilim
06-04-2003, 09:48 PM
The reason I guessed right off that it was probably the coach was because it was something I actually took into account just a few weeks back when I grabbed a new coach.

At the time I was switching from a 4-5-1 in competitive play to a 3-5-2 to give myself more versatility in attacking opposing teams strategies. Being that I'm a defensively minded GM, I figured I'd go with a coach of the same mindset to make up the loss of a man in the backfield. I was pleasantly surprised when I put up my best defensive ratings in team history the next match.

Thats when I realized just how big a difference a coaches mindset makes, atleast at the lower skill levels.


-Eilim

Nyarlahotep
06-04-2003, 10:03 PM
It adds one level to your all attack or defense ratings doesn't it?

Eilim
06-04-2003, 10:14 PM
I think its more like 2 levels, atleast when dealing with the weak-formidable range of skills.


-Eilim

daedalus
06-04-2003, 11:58 PM
I'm told that the coach will add one level to the final score of the side (offense or defense) they favor.

As far as your team's layout goes . . . Your keeper is in inadequate form so his normal/passable value is probably not that far from Nyarlahotep's. So that part probably didn't make a big difference. da Silva's "offensive" instruction is likely the cause for your right side defense being one step below the left. Viet-Tan is a passable defender but is playing offensive and is in weak form. Rohn is also in weak form and his defense should probably not be spoken of, especially playing offensive.

All those probably combined to give you a weaker defense than you expected. However, given the quality of your keeper and starting defenders, playing your midfielders offensive shouldn't hurt them. Especially in your current 4-5-1.

McSweeny
06-05-2003, 12:00 AM
rains? it's raining here too

Ally
06-05-2003, 12:04 AM
Hm. I thought it was the Iron Chef's cuisine that reigns supreme. :D

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 12:11 AM
I am Iron Chef 3-5-2.

daedalus
06-05-2003, 12:52 AM
I feel the need for an Iron Chef federation. :)

sterlingice
06-05-2003, 01:19 AM
Originally posted by daedalus
I feel the need for an Iron Chef federation. :)

Too bad there are no more new episodes :(

Chen (Chinese) was my favorite.

SI

daedalus
06-05-2003, 02:19 AM
Ya, that sucks.

Ugh, you and bbor. Morimoto uber alles, dammit.

NAIWF
06-05-2003, 02:25 AM
Anyone else think the final showdown was fixed? I think Sakai got some home town...erm cooking.

*groans heard in the distance*

Franklinnoble
06-05-2003, 12:00 PM
Yeah... Morimoto should have won it all, dammit.

Back on the topic of Hattrick... I am a disciple of Nyarlahotep's divine 3-5-2 formation. It has done wonders for my squad.

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 12:33 PM
I noticed you were getting set to try and pass me in the FOFC rankings. And that is the true test of any disciple...to kill his master and take his woman.

Franklinnoble
06-05-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
I noticed you were getting set to try and pass me in the FOFC rankings. And that is the true test of any disciple...to kill his master and take his woman.

I think this week's ranking must be a fluke... I was 37th last time around... jumped into a tie for 20th... I doubt it'll stay that high.

Then again, if there's a hot woman at stake... ;)

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Franklinnoble
I think this week's ranking must be a fluke... I was 37th last time around... jumped into a tie for 20th... I doubt it'll stay that high.

Then again, if there's a hot woman at stake... ;)


Maybe I shouldn't PIC, my girl would get kind of pissed if I got killed and lost her over a soccer game.

Franklinnoble
06-05-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
Maybe I shouldn't PIC, my girl would get kind of pissed if I got killed and lost her over a soccer game.

Your girl? Hah... that's nothing compared to the wrath I'd encounter if I came home to the wife and said "Look, honey... I won her playing soccer online..."

She's castrated horses before... she'd have no qualms about gelding me. ;)

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Your girl? Hah... that's nothing compared to the wrath I'd encounter if I came home to the wife and said "Look, honey... I won her playing soccer online..."

She's castrated horses before... she'd have no qualms about gelding me. ;)

Man that would suck, having two women and not being able to do anything about it.

bbor
06-05-2003, 02:17 PM
Why would anyone NOT play 4-5-1 voluntarily??:D

BTW...Chen is the bomb....the Szechwan sage rawks the house..YO!:)

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by bbor
Why would anyone NOT play 4-5-1 voluntarily??:D



Because we like having fans?:p

sterlingice
06-05-2003, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by bbor
Why would anyone NOT play 4-5-1 voluntarily??:D

BTW...Chen is the bomb....the Szechwan sage rawks the house..YO!:)

Chicks dig the event goal :D

SI

Masked
06-05-2003, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
Chicks dig the event goal :D

SI

Alas, they don't seem to like the technical types.

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
Chicks dig the event goal :D

SI

Chicks are like Voltron, the more you can hook up the better.

Franklinnoble
06-05-2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
Chicks are like Voltron, the more you can hook up the better.

QOTM material there... ;)

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Franklinnoble
QOTM material there... ;)

I have to admit I stole it from Red vs Blue. That doesn't make it any less true though.

Franklinnoble
06-05-2003, 03:47 PM
What's Red vs. Blue?

Nyarlahotep
06-05-2003, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Franklinnoble
What's Red vs. Blue?


A comedy based off of capture the flag in Halo.

Red vs Blue (http://www.redvsblue.com/bloodgulch.shtml)