Werewolf XXIX: Spawn II Game Over! Post 2533

[KWhit]

just answer the damn question will you? is he the most important person to clear today?

No. You are.

[KWhit]

But then bullet.

[Blade6119]

sure do I was overcome with a major head pain that caused me to go unconsicious and unalbe to do anything for an hour.

look at my post times and you'll see that, you'll also notice I was still in the thread for the time as well.
I know you couldnt talk, but there is some reason...head pains to me means spawnling...this just put you from worry to suspect

[Blade6119]

just answer the damn question will you? is he the most important person to clear today?
No, you are...and id prefer if it came in the lynch instead of a scan, so that bullet does not become infected. As of now

VOTE SNDVLS

[Talgian]

KWhit is right, we need to clear sndvls.

We can't fully trust the doc, but we don't have much of a choice.

-Talgian

[SnDvls]

I know you couldnt talk, but there is some reason...head pains to me means spawnling...this just put you from worry to suspect

I wouldn't expect less from you blade, but make sure you get all your facts sttraigt first...like that I didn't go on an away mission, makes me wonder what straws you are grasping at this early.

[KWhit]

It occurs to me that Talgian ignored my suggestion to order sndvls to be scanned.

And only AFTER sndvls wakes up does he give a reason.

That is very very suspicious and may have ruined my important plans.

[SnDvls]

No. You are.


well I can't clear me, but I can clear the doc. so I'll pm my duplicate role to Barkeep now and perform the doctors duties then we'll see what happens.

[Abe Sargent]

Some mentioned that I might be a spawn earlier. That's why :)

Of course, there's the whole, might be a spawn and not know it thing, and that sorta scares me.

[Blade6119]

KWhit is right, we need to clear sndvls.

We can't fully trust the doc, but we don't have much of a choice.

-Talgian
No, lynch sndvls...we can promote others into his role...why possibly infect our doctor and lose a potentially healling one of the wounded. We can turn this into a nice little swap here if were smart(and sndvls is bad)

[Swaggs]

I was looking through the roles again to see what could have caused an action like the one that happened to sndvls and found this:

Unaware Spawn During the day, is unaware of being a Spawn (and may not communicate with other Spawn), but will not seem to be a Spawn when tested by other players. At night, assumes normal Spawn powers.

This really makes me nervous, as I hadn't noticed it before.

[Abe Sargent]

Whoops, sorry, forgot to quote KWhit's post

[KWhit]

KWhit is right, we need to clear sndvls.

We can't fully trust the doc, but we don't have much of a choice.

-Talgian

And now all of a sudden does he say we need to examine him!

Why?? Maybe because he knows that sndvls has now turned into a spawn and will kill the doctor when he's examined:

Examination Day Only The doctor may choose to examine any crew member. If the crew member is a survivor, the doctor will learn this. If the crew member is infected, but has not yet become a spawn, the doctor will learn this, and will have a good chance to cure the crew member. If the crew member is a spawn both the doctor and the spawn will be killed. 2 AP

[Blade6119]

I think sndvls is just infected and not a spawn, but i could be totally wrong about everything

[SnDvls]

sent in the PM to barkeep to use my duplicate role to examine bulletsponge.
This will hopefully clear him and CW and give us a nice circle to work from.

[Talgian]

It occurs to me that Talgian ignored my suggestion to order sndvls to be scanned.

And only AFTER sndvls wakes up does he give a reason.

That is very very suspicious and may have ruined my important plans.

As I said before:
KWhit, I didn't issue the order right away because I didn't want to make it impossible for me to lead a mission.

I also agreed we should scan him after you pointed out that he shouldn't be planning if we don't know he's clean. I didn't take into consideration that a spawn making plans would not be a good thing. The timestamp of me saying we should scan is before your accusation.

-Talgian

[KWhit]

well I can't clear me, but I can clear the doc. so I'll pm my duplicate role to Barkeep now and perform the doctors duties then we'll see what happens.

Yes. Do it.

[Fouts]

Ok, I'm awake and caught up.

I agree with scanning either Hoops or SnDvls. If you don't use the doctor's abilities because you are worried he can be converted, you are wasting a viewer.

The scientists have a chance to research the spawn corpses (looks like CW has already done so). If we do this, we cannot be on an away team. Do you want us to research the spawn or go on an away mission?

[Barkeep49]

SnDvls goes to the computer and finds the where abouts of bulletsponge. Sndvls marches into sickbay and comes out a little while later.

[Barkeep49]

I think it's time I give a shout out to marshall881! Hope you're enjoying the lurking you see in the thread and will join us for a game soon!

[SnDvls]

got the results back. bullet is clean

there form my absolute trust list is

1) Bullet
2) CW - based on bullet's examine yesterday.

did also get info back on the explore info. we can't mine the same place as yesterday it's all gone from there, but we can do a general explore and then either get water or mine.

[KWhit]

The timestamp of me saying we should scan is before your accusation.

Yes, but it was after sndvls "woke up". If he woke up a full spawn, you just screwed us. Twice.

[Blade6119]

I think it's time I give a shout out to marshall881! Hope you're enjoying the lurking you see in the thread and will join us for a game soon!
And to WSU, hope he is enjoying being the overlord

[Fouts]

Lynch him!

[Blade6119]

did also get info back on the explore info.
wha?...

[KWhit]

got the results back. bullet is clean

there form my absolute trust list is

1) Bullet
2) CW - based on bullet's examine yesterday.

did also get info back on the explore info. we can't mine the same place as yesterday it's all gone from there, but we can do a general explore and then either get water or mine.

But how do we know you aren't already a spawn?

[Swaggs]

This is getting awful shady...

[SnDvls]

since from my examination of bullet to his of CW I think it is best he stay on the ship today (yes he's playing with spawnling leftovers so he couldn't go anyhow) to avoid a pontentinal attack. I think we should send out 2 more groups again like yesterday so we can get the hell out of here and have the engineers work on getting us opperational.

[Blade6119]

I wouldn't expect less from you blade, but make sure you get all your facts sttraigt first...like that I didn't go on an away mission, makes me wonder what straws you are grasping at this early.
You fell to the ground for an hour, woke up, and claimed head pains(you see those in the rules?)

[Talgian]

Yes, but it was after sndvls "woke up". If he woke up a full spawn, you just screwed us. Twice.

I'm really confused here. I didn't realize I had screwed anyone once, let alone twice. Also, we don't know what happened to sndvls. Nothing in the rules really matched what happened to him, whcih means it's probably some overlord ability to make someone sleep. If that someone is the first officer and we can't send out away teams, then that's the overlord being smart. I hardly see how me wanting to ensure the second least valuable officer could go on an away mission classifies me as spawn.

-Talgian

[KWhit]

Sndvls, can you make a statement denying being a spawn or spawnling for the empath to use to check you out?

[SnDvls]

But how do we know you aren't already a spawn?

you don't

but if you believe bullet is good then CW is good
at the very least I've cleared two people or I've created a very quick target for three people to be lynched which isn't a smart move for a bad guy.

[Fouts]

How much Crystilium do we need to lift off?

[Blade6119]

you don't

but if you believe bullet is good then CW is good
at the very least I've cleared two people or I've created a very quick target for three people to be lynched which isn't a smart move for a bad guy.
How if you are bad does that make bullet and CW bad...i dont see it...

We have been given our lynch victim guys, make it happen. Allow bullet to go elsewhere

[SnDvls]

wha?...


from a PM question I sent to BK, but posted the same question here and referenced I needed to PM him the question...you really are failing to read today :D

[SnDvls]

How much Crystilium do we need to lift off?
80

[Barkeep49]

How much Crystilium do we need to lift off?
65 units.

[Blade6119]

from a PM question I sent to BK, but posted the same question here and referenced I needed to PM him the question...you really are failing to read today :D
You got info about the explore mission yesterday morning just now?

[SnDvls]

How if you are bad does that make bullet and CW bad...i dont see it...

We have been given our lynch victim guys, make it happen. Allow bullet to go elsewhere

why would a bad guy want to create a circle of trust that solid this early?

[KWhit]

I'm really confused here. I didn't realize I had screwed anyone once, let alone twice. Also, we don't know what happened to sndvls. Nothing in the rules really matched what happened to him, whcih means it's probably some overlord ability to make someone sleep. If that someone is the first officer and we can't send out away teams, then that's the overlord being smart. I hardly see how me wanting to ensure the second least valuable officer could go on an away mission classifies me as spawn.

-Talgian

My point was just that you should have said that before he woke up. My fear is that we lost our chance to save him and he's now a full spawn. Hopefully, the spawn infection isn't that fast moving, but I'm not sure.

Spawnlings
These are crew members who are not quite Spawn. If they are not cured in time they will become Spawn and be randomly assigned a role from the Other Spawn list (see above). Crew members might or might not know they are spawnlings, but the Hive Mind knows the identities of all spawnlings.

[Fouts]

65 units.

Well, we have 47 units from the mission that Schmidty and I went on, so only 18 more. I'm thinking disecting spawn corpses sounds interesting.

[KWhit]

Sndvls, can you make a statement denying being a spawn or spawnling for the empath to use to check you out?

I'll ask again.

[Fouts]

Any progress CW??

[Blade6119]

why would a bad guy want to create a circle of trust that solid this early?
As a bad guy you always want to be in a circle of trust with good guys...i have no doubts you started out good...i just no longer can believe you are still on our side. I see no reason for the whole head pains incident other then infection

[SnDvls]

You got info about the explore mission yesterday morning just now?


no I asked if we could mine the same place we did yesterday and got our 40+ units again and he said no it's all gone.

I also asked if I needed to say we want to explore for something specific or just a general explore.

[SnDvls]

I'll ask again.

sure I'm not a spawn

though I'm sure BK won't allow it to be scanned.

I'm good, I used my duplicate role to become a dr. and examine bullet and he came back clean.

[KWhit]

though I'm sure BK won't allow it to be scanned.


Why do you say that?

[Talgian]

Guys, we have to make a choice. If we can't make sure sndvls is clean soon, we have decide if it's worth the risk of a possible spawn(ling) planning a mission, or if it's better to get decreased results and go unplanned. Personally, we have some time before the deadline, so let's try to make sure sndvls is clean before then. If not, I say we go unplanned.

-Talgian

[SnDvls]

As a bad guy you always want to be in a circle of trust with good guys...i have no doubts you started out good...i just no longer can believe you are still on our side. I see no reason for the whole head pains incident other then infection


then are you saying I just infected the dr.?
what role would allow me to do that?
better yet, what role would allow me to just pull him in to sick bay? not my 1st officer role.

[SnDvls]

Why do you say that?


generally in most games it's put into place to keep everyone from starting the game saying

"I"m good, I'm not a spawn"

and then the empathat can just use those and see who's good or not.

I'll say it all day if it will work

I'm good and I'm not a spawn

[Blade6119]

then are you saying I just infected the dr.?
what role would allow me to do that?
better yet, what role would allow me to just pull him in to sick bay? not my 1st officer role.
I think you are the duplicant secret role like you claimed, but infected none the less...it makes sense to me

[KWhit]

generally in most games it's put into place to keep everyone from starting the game saying

"I"m good, I'm not a spawn"

and then the empathat can just use those and see who's good or not.

I'll say it all day if it will work

I'm good and I'm not a spawn

Ah. Okay. That makes sense.

My WW is rusty.

[Talgian]

Wait, guys, what are we saying? Sndvls is good...for now.
Duplicant May take on the duties of any public role, except Officers, once per game for a single Day or Night cycle. This person will gain the additional AP associated with that role, but the AP may only be spent on the abilities associated with that role. Unless it is necessary to mention publicly, no one will know who the Duplicant is or what they did.
Every role that may keep it when they become spawn says so in the description of that role. Since duplicant does not, if he used it, he's not a spawn yet.

-Talgian

[Barkeep49]

Out of the blue sndvls is stricken once again. He falls to the floor briefly and is able to stand right up again, but is not quite the same.

I apologize. I made a mistake before in which power was used. SnDvls should never have been prevented from talking for that hour. This is as good of a time as any to point out that with so many moving parts I will make mistakes from time to time, though I do my best to avoid them.

[Bek]

are you silenced this time???

[SnDvls]

are you silenced this time???


nope no PM on it

[Barkeep49]

It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

[KWhit]

What the hell is going on?

[Blade6119]

It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties
Defend this sndvls

[KWhit]

I think that sndvls is a spawnling.

[Talgian]

Well then. It would seem that sndvls is a spawn. I'm not sure what this means about bullet. But I think we should lynch sndvls and go unplanned for today :/

-Talgian

[Swaggs]

I think he may not even know it yet.

[Bek]

i think after re-reading what i need too...we need to concentrate on whether we think sndvls is clean or not and then we need to move onto the away missions and what we are doing there, as getting the cyrstilium(spl) and getting off the planet is looking better and better as more time passes...and sndvls, take some tylenol...

[Abe Sargent]

Defend this sndvls


All it means is that a spawn might have zapped him and prevented him from doign anything today, instead of being silenced for an hour.

[hoopsguy]

OK, if we trust that SnDvls did in fact use the duplicant ability - and didn't fake it - then we are starting to get a nice circle of trust rolling.

I'm probably not going to be able to look in again between now and 7PM CST - depends on my customer - so if someone wants to isue me a repair order to make sure it goes in that would be just fine with me. If not, I'll get it in upon arriving home from work tonight.

I'm also glad to see that Fouts is vouching for Coffee Warlord's action here - I strongly doubt that both of the scientists are spawn.

[Schmidty]

I'm back, and it's looking really bad for SnDvls.

[SnDvls]

Defend this sndvls


I think BK defended it...it was an error on his part nothing to defend really

[Talgian]

It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

Doesn't this mean that sndvls should not have been able to use the duplicant ability? If he had it, but couldn't use it, that means he lost it due to being spawn. Please correct me if I'm reading the rules wrong.

-Talgian

[KWhit]

This is important info for me:

Do we think sndvls is a spawn or a spawnling?

[Barkeep49]

Ignoring the commotion over the First Officer, Fouts nebbishly collects some of the creatures who attacks and adjourns to his own lab. The door is locked and a sign says "KEEP OUT! IMPORTANT WORK IN PROGRESS

[Blade6119]

I think BK defended it...it was an error on his part nothing to defend really
He basically said you were no longer able to use your power...im asking you if you can explain head pains, "seeming different", and loss of powers in any way but spawn

[Blade6119]

All it means is that a spawn might have zapped him and prevented him from doign anything today, instead of being silenced for an hour.
And where is this in the rules? Thats seems rather far fetched to me

[Bek]

Ignoring the commotion over the First Officer, Fouts nebbishly collects some of the creatures who attacks and adjourns to his own lab. The door is locked and a sign says "KEEP OUT! IMPORTANT WORK IN PROGRESS

What is with everyone taking parts and going into their lab???...is there something that im missing???

[Abe Sargent]

Blade, in the rules, there is a spawn attack that prevents someone from using their abilities.

[Schmidty]

I just checked something, and I am positive that SnDvls believes COMPLETELY that what he said regarding bullet being clean is 100% true; however, I suppose that still means that he doesn't know he's been infected.

At least we now know that he isn't a Spawn yet.

[Blade6119]

Blade, in the rules, there is a spawn attack that prevents someone from using their abilities.
where?

[Abe Sargent]

And where is this in the rules? Thats seems rather far fetched to me


Mind Leech

[Blade6119]

I just checked something, and I am positive that SnDvls believes COMPLETELY that what he said regarding bullet being clean is 100% true; however, I suppose that still means that he doesn't know he's been infected.

At least we now know that he isn't a Spawn yet.
You scanned that???????????????????????????

We all agree for the most part bullet is good, so a spawn would believe it 100% becuase he knows who is good and bad...that means NOTHING to us about sndvls being good or bad

[hoopsguy]

KWhit, if you are asking if someone should take an action to test SnDvls here, then I think the answer is yes. The circles of trust are not as strong in a game with conversions, but we'll be on our way to forming one if SnDvls is in fact still on our side.

If there is an empath thinking of testing him, perhaps "I'm not a spawn, spawnling, or in any way aligned with the spawn" would be a better statement than I'm not a spawn since a spawnling could come back as "True" with a statement of "I'm not a spawn".

[Blade6119]

Mind Leech
Sndvls was not exhausted, and therefore i dont think mind leech is possible. Mind leech makes both players exhuasted

[hoopsguy]

Mind Leech Instead of an attack, if the Mind Leech is not exhausted (see Status Exhausted below) at night, he may rob a player of their ability to use abilities and actions. Passive abilities (like Resistant) are automatically negated. If the player tries to use an Active ability there is a 40% chance that the ability will be negated. Both involved players become "Exhausted" in any case.


Another one that is a Night action event

[Blade6119]

Another one that is a Night action event
read my posts a few up, not possible since both become exhausted and i dont see sndvls as status exhausted(do mind pains=exhausted? if so, then you are the only other person exhausted who makes sense to mind leech him)

[KWhit]

I have good reason to believe that we need sndvls today if possible. Hopefully he can help plan a little mission I have in mind.

I order bulletsponge to examine sndvls.

[Schmidty]

You scanned that???????????????????????????

We all agree for the most part bullet is good, so a spawn would believe it 100% becuase he knows who is good and bad...that means NOTHING to us about sndvls being good or bad

No need to be a spazz.

[Blade6119]

I have to go, sadly, prob, for the whole day. My vote in on sndvls, and i hope you all follow. Have a good day mates, cheers

[Blade6119]

I have good reason to believe that we need sndvls today if possible. Hopefully he can help plan a little mission I have in mind.

I order bulletsponge to examine sndvls.
..............

[Barkeep49]

Friendly reminder that all actions, except voting and lift-off, must be PM'ed to me in order to be in effect.

[Swaggs]

I am out until later on this evening. In all likelihood, I will be checking back in before the voting deadline.

Right now, I don't see any reason to remove my vote from sndvls.

[Talgian]

Guys, I think this is relatively clear. BK has said he shouldn't have been able to use the duplicant power. He wasn't exhausted, so the only thing that would have prevented him doing this is if he was (or is becoming) spawn. He may be becoming a spawnling now, or he could be an unaware spawn.
Unaware Spawn During the day, is unaware of being a Spawn (and may not communicate with other Spawn), but will not seem to be a Spawn when tested by other players. At night, assumes normal Spawn powers.
Either way, I don't think he's one of the good guys. The doctor should examine him. That being said, he needs to plan our missions and send us on our way. According to the rules, he can only fake this. He can't sabotage, he just send us on the equivalent of an unplanned mission. Since we need to go out today anyway, I say he plans the missions. Best case scenario, we get two planned missions. Worst case, we get two unplanned. I'd personally say both should be crystal missions. Any other thoughts?

-Talgian

[Abe Sargent]

Sndvls was not exhausted, and therefore i dont think mind leech is possible. Mind leech makes both players exhuasted


He wasn't, who knows about now?

[Talgian]

Captain don't send the PM. more in a minute.

-Talgian

[KWhit]

Guys, I think this is relatively clear. BK has said he shouldn't have been able to use the duplicant power. He wasn't exhausted, so the only thing that would have prevented him doing this is if he was (or is becoming) spawn. He may be becoming a spawnling now, or he could be an unaware spawn.

Either way, I don't think he's one of the good guys. The doctor should examine him. That being said, he needs to plan our missions and send us on our way. According to the rules, he can only fake this. He can't sabotage, he just send us on the equivalent of an unplanned mission. Since we need to go out today anyway, I say he plans the missions. Best case scenario, we get two planned missions. Worst case, we get two unplanned. I'd personally say both should be crystal missions. Any other thoughts?

-Talgian

Let's wait until we hear how the exam goes. Then I may have more to share.

[KWhit]

Captain don't send the PM. more in a minute.

-Talgian

Too late.

[Barkeep49]

Not sure if it effected anyone but my box was full for about a minute. I just deleted 20 messages so there is once again plenty of space.

[Talgian]

I'm all for scanning sndvls. I don't think he's one of the good guys. However, wasting an action point is not a good idea. We won't know the results of the scan until bullet logs on. By the time bullet logs on and is read up, he should know he pretty much has to scan sndvls, or we'll all assume he's spawn. Plus, there is reason to believe he may be unaware. So he's worth scanning, but not worth wasting an action.

-Talgian

[Talgian]

Too late.
Oh well. Let's just hope they don't go for the slaves tonight.

-Talgian

[Barkeep49]

The Captain has decided that it is time to act. "Doctor Bulletsponge," the young captain begins in his best authorative voice, "I want you to scan First Officer SnDvls. Consider it an order. That is all for now."

The two men, after being ordered, go into sickbay and come out a bit later.

[KWhit]

I'm all for scanning sndvls. I don't think he's one of the good guys. However, wasting an action point is not a good idea. We won't know the results of the scan until bullet logs on. By the time bullet logs on and is read up, he should know he pretty much has to scan sndvls, or we'll all assume he's spawn. Plus, there is reason to believe he may be unaware. So he's worth scanning, but not worth wasting an action.

-Talgian

Not true. We find out immediately.

[KWhit]

Not true. We find out immediately.

At least I thought that's what BK said...

Hmmm....

[Talgian]

Bullet gets to give us the result of the scan. He can say whatever he wants about how it went. That's why I don't think we find out the results until he logs on and tells us.

-Talgian

[Coffee Warlord]

Any progress CW??

Little bit. Not much, nothing helpful I can reveal to the group.

[Bek]

Bullet gets to give us the result of the scan. He can say whatever he wants about how it went. That's why I don't think we find out the results until he logs on and tells us.

-Talgian

agreed, lets just hope he gets on sooner than later so that we have time to work out whats going on with the away missions...

[Schmidty]

So do we get to see the results soon?

[path12]

We have been given our lynch victim guys, make it happen. Allow bullet to go elsewhere

Here's my question. It seems to me that Sn getting stricken in such an obvious manner makes him a VERY obvious target.

Doesn't it seem that the conversion process would be, well....sneakier???

[SnDvls]

Out of the blue sndvls is stricken once again. He falls to the floor briefly and is able to stand right up again, but is not quite the same.

I apologize. I made a mistake before in which power was used. SnDvls should never have been prevented from talking for that hour. This is as good of a time as any to point out that with so many moving parts I will make mistakes from time to time, though I do my best to avoid them.


It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

basically there was an error on BK's part that should have not allowed me to do any actions for the day. he messed up as you can see him admitting it in his posts. I wasn't not supposed to get in my duplicate examination, but did do to this error. so now I can not use my 2 AP for the day or do any actions. I don't belive if I'm ordered to do something it will work either, kwhit you can try, but I was lead to belive it would fail.

Blade is pushing this. I think probally because he sent in the action request to BK and was upset from the results and now he sees a big circle of good guys forming with no losses. He's in trouble and scrambling.

[Barkeep49]

The scan was performed immeadiately but the person doing the action gets the results PM.

[SnDvls]

Bullet gets to give us the result of the scan. He can say whatever he wants about how it went. That's why I don't think we find out the results until he logs on and tells us.

-Talgian


I got PM'd the results of my examination of bullet. I'm sure it will be the same with him.

[Schmidty]

The scan was performed immeadiately but the person doing the action gets the results PM.

Gotcha.

[Talgian]

so now I can not use my 2 AP for the day or do any actions. I don't belive if I'm ordered to do something it will work either, kwhit you can try, but I was lead to belive it would fail.
Barkeep does this mean we can't do any away missions today?

-Talgian

[SnDvls]

[b]Barkeep]/b] does this mean we can't do any away missions today?

-Talgian


you can do them I just can't preplan them

[Bek]

[b]Barkeep]/b] does this mean we can't do any away missions today?

-Talgian

if this is true then i believe that they would just be unplanned

[KWhit]

So if sndvls can't take any actions, we need to go ahead with unplanned away missions. Who had posted the tentative roster for the missions?

[Barkeep49]

[b]Barkeep]/b] does this mean we can't do any away missions today?

-Talgian
The First Officer must send each away team. If the First Officer isn't capable of performing any actions then he couldn't possibly send an away team.

[SnDvls]

The First Officer must send each away team. If the First Officer isn't capable of performing any actions then he couldn't possibly send an away team.


kwhit you can try to order me to send two away missions, but I was lead to believe that it would fail FYI

[KWhit]

I thought we could go on unplanned mining missions, yes?

[Barkeep49]

I thought we could go on unplanned mining missions, yes?
Without getting into too much detail, an away team of any sort is not possible at the moment.

[SnDvls]

Vote Blade
he was the main person yesterday wanting to lynch someone yesterday before we knew anything. and today he can't seem to get past the fact that I am good.

[Talgian]

The First Officer must send each away team. If the First Officer isn't capable of performing any actions then he couldn't possibly send an away team.

Each team implies planned or unplanned. I s'pose this means we're stuck today.

-Talgian

[KWhit]

I'm about ready to lynch bulletsponge if he doesn't hurry up and get back here to tell us how sndvls' scan came out!


:)

[KWhit]

I'm a little bit worried about the scientists messing with those bodies. I hope they don't get infected too.


THERE'S NOTHING TO DO AND I'M PARANOID!!!!!

[SnDvls]

Barkeep - from the rules

Officers
If an officer dies, the officer below him moves up in rank.

is this immideate?
so if I die tonight does 2nd officer tomorrow morning automaticially start as 1st officer?

[Barkeep49]

Just to let people know: I'm heading out a bit after 6. Depending on how naughty the youth of my fair suberb have been I will be back sometime between 8:45 and 10, though likely closer to 9 then 10.

[Barkeep49]

Barkeep - from the rules


is this immideate?
so if I die tonight does 2nd officer tomorrow morning automaticially start as 1st officer?
Yes. He would become first officer right away.

[Abe Sargent]

Might as well repair then

[Coffee Warlord]

Soccer practice for me tonight as well. I should be back before the voting deadline, however.

[Schmidty]

Might as well repair then

Yep, that seems like the best (or ONLY) option at this point.

[Barkeep49]

Depressed over their inability to do anything, the crew mopes around until Anxiety goes off to work in the Engine room.

[Talgian]

Well, I still say 3 on engine, 1 on water.

I'd break it down to Quickshot, hoops, and path on the engine, and anxiety on water.

-Talgian

[Barkeep49]

This action is provided for color purposes only and should not be read any deeper then that

Rather then moping Bek decides to go to the library to read. Whether he is reading a technical manual or the "manuals" on female anatomy is not widely known.

[Abe Sargent]

VOTE BEK.....


sorry BK, but you know someone would throw that joke out there, need to get it out now:)

Note, since it's not bold, it's not a real vote

[Bek]

Rather then moping Bek decides to go to the library to read. Whether he is reading a technical manual or the "manuals" on female anatomy is not widely known.

its female anatomy...for when i get off this blasted ship and back to my wife...ill show here exactly what we "sailors" learn while we are away...well anyways...back to reading

[hoopsguy]

The inability to send any away teams today is a total disaster.

We definitely need bullet back here with his results ASAP so we can have some logic behind our votes for today.

[path12]

Sent in my PM to repair the engines.

[Blade6119]

Vote Blade
he was the main person yesterday wanting to lynch someone yesterday before we knew anything. and today he can't seem to get past the fact that I am good.
You still havent explained why you are having head pains, cant do any actions today, and barkeep himself said after the second head pain you didnt seem quite the same

COFFEE, did you get a pm saying you had been tested by the doctor? If so, can sndvls tell us what his said so we can compare the two. This check should be the same as bullet telling us what happened, as sndvls clearly said he got a PM about the doc testing him.

[Abe Sargent]

I think comparing the two pms is otuside the bounds of a WW game

[Talgian]

Sent in my PM to repair the engines.

Good man. Anxiety, I see you're on but haven't started on that water plant yet...

-Talgian

[Blade6119]

I think comparing the two pms is otuside the bounds of a WW game
How so...sndvls tells us in his own words what happened, then coffee either says he got the same or didnt...no copying and pasting PMs, just their own wording. BK is on to confirm or deny that

[Coffee Warlord]

Moot point.

I received absolutely no PM when I was examined by the doctor.

[Blade6119]

Moot point.

I received absolutely no PM when I was examined by the doctor.

I got PM'd the results of my examination of bullet. I'm sure it will be the same with him.
That further confirms to me sndvls is bad, and now bullet can no longer be trusted

[path12]

Good man. Anxiety, I see you're on but haven't started on that water plant yet...

-Talgian

I think Anxiety is working on the engine also.

[Barkeep49]

I think comparing the two pms is otuside the bounds of a WW game
People are free to share the content, but not wording, of PMs. But I should say that while some PMs have similarities each one is uniquely crafted to try and prevent code words or the such.

[Barkeep49]

As things have quieted down the Engine Room has gotten louder as path has joined in the repair efforts.

[Blade6119]

wait, sndvls said about the scan of bullet, not the bullet scan of him...maybe it is a moot point...damn, sorry guys

[Talgian]

I think Anxiety is working on the engine also.

D'oh! Sorry about that Anxiety.

-Talgian

[Abe Sargent]

'sok Talgian

[Coffee Warlord]

Vote SnDvls

While it's possible he got a PM 'cause his results were different, he's caught in a fairly straightforward lie. Add that to the fact that all that goofy shit happened to him today, and, well, I think leaving him alive is too risky.

He's also expendable. We've got more officers where he came from.

[Coffee Warlord]

Heh, as I reread the same thing that Blade just reread. But stilll...the other point stands about him.

But, with that cleared up...Unvote SnDvls....until bullet reports.

[Abe Sargent]

CW - read Blade's post, 642 and you'll see he admits that he was talkign about two different scans of SnDvls

[Coffee Warlord]

CW - read Blade's post, 642 and you'll see he admits that he was talkign about two different scans of SnDvls

Beat you to it. :)

[SnDvls]

You still havent explained why you are having head pains, cant do any actions today, and barkeep himself said after the second head pain you didnt seem quite the same

COFFEE, did you get a pm saying you had been tested by the doctor? If so, can sndvls tell us what his said so we can compare the two. This check should be the same as bullet telling us what happened, as sndvls clearly said he got a PM about the doc testing him.


there you go not being able to read again. I said I got PM'd the results of my examination that I did on bullet

[Blade6119]

CW - read Blade's post, 642 and you'll see he admits that he was talkign about two different scans of SnDvls
642 is a barkeep message, you meant 643:)

[Blade6119]

there you go not being able to read again. I said I got PM'd the results of my examination that I did on bullet
i corrected my mistake already, but you ignored my point, so i repeat:

You still havent explained why you are having head pains, cant do any actions today, and barkeep himself said after the second head pain you didnt seem quite the same

[SnDvls]

i corrected my mistake already, but you ignored my point, so i repeat:

You still havent explained why you are having head pains, cant do any actions today, and barkeep himself said after the second head pain you didnt seem quite the same

1) head pains - got it in a PM, a spawn attack to prevent away missions and actions as can been seen from BK's mistakes and quotes, however he misunderstood teh spawn person's request and allowed me to use my duplicate role.

2) no actions - see barkeeps posts again for the 800th time

3) not the same - again see #'s 1 & 2...it was a makeup post due to his error.

[Abe Sargent]

642 is a barkeep message, you meant 643:)


Silly B names. I sometimes think you are the same person anyway.

[Blade6119]

1) head pains - got it in a PM, a spawn attack to prevent away missions and actions as can been seen from BK's mistakes and quotes, however he misunderstood teh spawn person's request and allowed me to use my duplicate role.

2) no actions - see barkeeps posts again for the 800th time

3) not the same - again see #'s 1 & 2...it was a makeup post due to his error.
So your saying you got spawn attacked?

[SnDvls]

So your saying you got spawn attacked?

Well unless a good guy wanted to prevent us from leaving there isn't anyone else to blame it on. you really are dense

[Blade6119]

Well unless a good guy wanted to prevent us from leaving there isn't anyone else to blame it on. you really are dense
Im just wondering why it took this long for you to say "HEY EVERYONE, I GOT ATTACKED!!!."

So lets review:
You got attacked by spawn
You have head pains
You "arent quite the same"
You can't use your powers anymore

Explain to me how, becuase im very dense so please bear with me, this all adds up to anything but your bad?

[Qwikshot]

I'll work on repairing the engine room...I'm out for the rest of the night...

[SnDvls]

Im just wondering why it took this long for you to say "HEY EVERYONE, I GOT ATTACKED!!!."

So lets review:
You got attacked by spawn
You have head pains
You "arent quite the same"
You can't use your powers anymore

Explain to me how, becuase im very dense so please bear with me, this all adds up to anything but your bad?

AGAIN LOOK AT BARKEEPS POSTS REGARDING HIS MISTAKES


edited to take out the large font size

[Barkeep49]

Please cut out the name calling. There is plenty of gameplay to be had without the ill feelings.

[Blade6119]

AGAIN LOOK AT BARKEEPS POSTS REGARDING HIS MISTAKES
I see him say you shouldnt have been able to use your power, but i must not understand...why dont you explain it to me(i understand you should have been able to talk that one hour, but the head pains are there regardless) Please, i just dont get it...spell it out for me

[Bek]

I see him say you shouldnt have been able to use your power, but i must not understand...why dont you explain it to me(i understand you should have been able to talk that one hour, but the head pains are there regardless) Please, i just dont get it...spell it out for me

i think the headpains are just for color...i could be wrong...but thats my thinking...

[Abe Sargent]

Dammit Sndvls, not for the rest of the game, whenever I come back to this page, I have to read that large script. Knock that off.

[SnDvls]

Major post forthcoming as soon as I can type it up.

post 358

[SnDvls]

As the morning's activities continue, suddenly the lights on the ship flicker for a moment. Simultaneously, there is a large noise and the ship begins to vibrate. A few of you recognize immediately that this is an earthquake. As the ship vibrates, and the lights settle into an almost strobe like flashing, the crew begin to see Spawn, who are not yet Spawn, on the ship. How did they get there?

There is no time to figure that out now. Some of the more quick minded among you start to squash the Spawnlike creatures. But there are waves of them. Finally the main power goes out and the emergency lights come on after a moment and the battle between the crew and the Spawnlike creatures continues with the crew becoming gradually more and more exhausted. The crew, which had been spread out, has no idea what is going on in other parts of the ship. Finally, after what seems like an eternity, but was really only a few minutes, the rumbling stops, and just as suddenly as the creatures started coming they stop.

However, the ship is in bad shape, with many areas being damaged. The carcasses of these creatures are strewn across the ship. It seems as though Swaggs faced a heavier attack then in most parts of the ship as he defended the slave pens from attack, though becoming wounded in the process. Qwikshot and Raiders Army were also wounded during the attack. They explain that they were near the Cargo Hold when the attack began and that the creatures have damaged some of the supplies, however, they ensured that the room itself remained accessible.

The crew starts to assemble as they figure out how to respond from this latest development.

[color=Indigo]Ship’s Status

Room Reports
Engine Room – Damaged 4 man cycles to repair
Water Plant – Damaged (Partially Operational: 10 units of water produced daily) 2 cycles to repair
Cargo Hold - Fully Operational(Maximum Capacity: 85 units)
Water Supply – 30 units (Enough reserves for more then 3 days at current consumption)
Crystilium Supply – 43 units
Security Headquarters Damaged (Non Operational) 3 man cycles to repair
Brig – Empty
Weapons Locker – 5 phasers
Slave Pens – Fully Operational
Sleeping Quarters – Damaged. 6 berths requiring repair (enough berths for 13 people to sleep)

Crew Status

Command Staff
Captain - KWhit
First Officer - sndvls
Second Officer - Talgian
Security Chief - Tyrith
Ensign - Schmidty

Engineers
QwikshotWounded
Anxiety
Hoopsguy Exhuasted
Path

Medical Staff
Doctor - bulletsponge

Security Staff
Sergeant at Arms - dubb93
Warden – Chubby Exhausted
Galley Master - Raiders Army Exhausted Wounded
Slavemaster – Swaggs Exhausted Wounded
Security Crewman - kingfc22 Exhausted

Scientists
Coffee Warlord
Fouts

Privates
Blade6119
Bek

Slaves
20 slaves accounted for

No actions will be accepted until I send out some PMs related to this event

post 362 some people are publically attacked

[SnDvls]

notice the last line in BK's post

[Talgian]

So your saying you got spawn attacked?

sndvls description of what happened doesn't match any the predetermined spawn powers. I think that the overlord did this, seeing we were most likely going to get out of here tomorrow. Now, though, well, I don't know. What I do know is that we have three people repairing the engine, and we need to worry about the water plant. I'm going to attend to that need now.

-Talgian

[Blade6119]

post 362 some people are publically attacked
Not you though, so im sure im missing something...hopefully you can show me in the next 5 minutes

[SnDvls]

As the crew assembles, suddenly First Officer sndvls collapses to the ground and writhes around in pain. Something is wrong with him. The doctor is fetched but he can find no wound or injury. Hopefully this is a temporary condition.

Ok most vital PMs have been sent. Some are still forth coming, however. I will post when all are sent. Actions may not be performed again.

post 400
my post just prior to this was 2 mins.

[SnDvls]

Ok all PMs regarding the attack have been sent. If you didn't get one already it means you weren't destined to recieve one yet. Now going back to answer questions.

post 434

[Blade6119]

notice the last line in BK's post
Ok, so why didnt you say earlier "i got attacked by the spawn"

and if you did, what happened? you just fought them off? how does that explain the head pains..im sorry, im trying but still not following

[SnDvls]

I didn't send you one as it's written in the public post. Check post #362

post 440

[SnDvls]

Any valid order is issued immeadiately and perfomred immeadiately (if applicable). Do realize that sndvls is not wounded and so the only valid order would be to an examination.

post 463

[SnDvls]

Staggering to his feet sndvls asks for some water, brought to him immeadiately, and is now able to function again.
post 483
I posted 1 min after this and just over an hour after being silenced

[Talgian]

I just ordered hoopsguy to repair the water plant. My thought is that we need to get started on that. Now he is exhausted, and some believe him to be spawn. If the succeeds in repairing it, then we're happy. If not, we need to figure out if it's because he is exhausted, or if something more sinister is at play...

-Talgian

[Barkeep49]

Second Officer Talgian has waited long enough for the engineers to get their work going and so he decides to order hoopsguy to get to work in the Water Plant.

[Blade6119]

....still havent figured out how this makes sense if your good...im still trying to follow

[SnDvls]

SnDvls goes to the computer and finds the where abouts of bulletsponge. Sndvls marches into sickbay and comes out a little while later.

post 519

[bulletsponge]

holy crap i have 7 pages to read. But some info on what happened last night, it seems i was attacked but escaped unharmed ;)

[Bek]

yeah...i see bullet...we should be getting something soon

[SnDvls]

Out of the blue sndvls is stricken once again. He falls to the floor briefly and is able to stand right up again, but is not quite the same.

I apologize. I made a mistake before in which power was used. SnDvls should never have been prevented from talking for that hour. This is as good of a time as any to point out that with so many moving parts I will make mistakes from time to time, though I do my best to avoid them.

post 554

[SnDvls]

It should be noted that technically Sndvls should not have been able to do whatever it is he did in the sickbay. However, I do not go back and change history and so that action stands despite it being an error. My apologies to the effected parties

post 557

[hoopsguy]

Works for me, Talgian. I would expect that my repair operation will work without any hiccups.

[hoopsguy]

Bullet, we are very intrigued to see what the results of your scan on SnDvls - should be there in a PM for you.

[Blade6119]

holy crap i have 7 pages to read. But some info on what happened last night, it seems i was attacked but escaped unharmed ;)
so now sndvls and bullet claim to be spawn attacked last night, then they both scan eachother today? lol, this is not good

[Blade6119]

post 557
Yes, he let you do your action when he wasnt supposed to...still dont see what clears you there

[Blade6119]

and i have to go....GOD DAMN!!!!! this is just getting good

[SnDvls]

Dammit Sndvls, not for the rest of the game, whenever I come back to this page, I have to read that large script. Knock that off.


sorry..edited it and reduced size

[bulletsponge]

so now sndvls and bullet claim to be spawn attacked last night, then they both scan eachother today? lol, this is not good


wait sorry i misread, i think i was attacked during the attack on the ship. sorry i havnt read most of what happened today so i was mistaken i believe

[SnDvls]

Ok, so why didnt you say earlier "i got attacked by the spawn"

and if you did, what happened? you just fought them off? how does that explain the head pains..im sorry, im trying but still not following

because I can't say I was physiclly attacked. I was attacked from a distance not head on. I sure as hell hope it was a spawn or we have a really bad player in this game.

[bulletsponge]

Bullet, we are very intrigued to see what the results of your scan on SnDvls - should be there in a PM for you.


SnDvls came up clean. and i probed him for a while with my special 3ft probe and hes no spawn. he will walk funny for a few days though

[SnDvls]

so now sndvls and bullet claim to be spawn attacked last night, then they both scan eachother today? lol, this is not good


again you can't read I never said it was at night...you are reading into things and claiming things that don't exist.

[Bek]

SnDvls came up clean. and i probed him for a while with my special 3ft probe and hes no spawn. he will walk funny for a few days though

so he is not spawn...yet....who else are we looking at tonight???

[SnDvls]

so he is not spawn...yet....who else are we looking at tonight???


I'm also not infected per the rules

Doctor (2 AP per cycle)

Examination Day Only The doctor may choose to examine any crew member. If the crew member is a survivor, the doctor will learn this. If the crew member is infected, but has not yet become a spawn, the doctor will learn this, and will have a good chance to cure the crew member. If the crew member is a spawn both the doctor and the spawn will be killed. 2 AP

give us 3 in the clear now

me
CW
bullet

[hoopsguy]

OK, so we have:

1. SnDvls used duplicant to clear Bulletsponge
2. Bulletsponge was ordered to check SnDvls, cleared him
3. Coffee Warlord was cleared yesterday by Bulletsponge, was in the brig alone last night

Anyone else that should be part of a growing circle of trust here?

[bulletsponge]

It occurs to me that Talgian ignored my suggestion to order sndvls to be scanned.

And only AFTER sndvls wakes up does he give a reason.

That is very very suspicious and may have ruined my important plans.

i was ordered to give SnDvls a spawn check up and i did so

[Bek]

OK, so we have:

1. SnDvls used duplicant to clear Bulletsponge
2. Bulletsponge was ordered to check SnDvls, cleared him
3. Coffee Warlord was cleared yesterday by Bulletsponge, was in the brig alone last night

Anyone else that should be part of a growing circle of trust here?

at this moment...there is no one else that i can think of...i think as we can see this game is going to take a lot of activity and how it pains me to say it but i think we need to be looking at the quiet players and possibly getting rid of them for the sake of our lives later on when it becomes more crucial to be active

[Abe Sargent]

Hoops, KWhit might have done something else insstead of clearing SnDvls. If he had done something else, SnDvls would likely have been lynched tonight, so I doubt KWhit is currently spawn.

[path12]

OK, so we have:

1. SnDvls used duplicant to clear Bulletsponge
2. Bulletsponge was ordered to check SnDvls, cleared him
3. Coffee Warlord was cleared yesterday by Bulletsponge, was in the brig alone last night

Anyone else that should be part of a growing circle of trust here?

Not to put Sn through this whole thing again ;) but I don't think we can say 100% that Sn/bullet are good. It's possible that Sn wasn't supposed to be able to do his duplicant duty because he was infected.

Now I happen to think it's like 85-90% that he's good, but just pointing out that we can't say that with certainty.

[SnDvls]

Not to put Sn through this whole thing again ;) but I don't think we can say 100% that Sn/bullet are good. It's possible that Sn wasn't supposed to be able to do his duplicant duty because he was infected.

Now I happen to think it's like 85-90% that he's good, but just pointing out that we can't say that with certainty.

I would not have been able to do it today but I still would have had the role and used it tomorrow.

[path12]

i was ordered to give SnDvls a spawn check up and i did so

Bullet, I think this was after Sn woke up that Talgian gave the order. We know you did get the order, KWhit's question was the timing since he asked to have Sn scanned while he was still out.

Damn, this is going to be a confusing game. I even tried to put a spreadsheet together for a change and I think it's totally fucked already.

[path12]

I would not have been able to do it today but I still would have had the role and used it tomorrow.

Well, really we just have you saying that, don't we? Like I said, I tend to believe you and don't plan on voting for you today, but I just wanted to say that from our standpoint we can't see you as 100% safe.

[path12]

By the way, where the hell is Tyrith? 2 posts? He was very active last game when good.

[SnDvls]

I'm out, hopefully I'll see you all tomorrow.

[bulletsponge]

ok im not sure if i was clear.
I was ordered to Probe SnDVls and i did (automaticaly) and he came back clean and isnt a spawn or spawnling. btw if i probe a spawn i will die, but if i probe a spawnling i will spot him and have a chance to change him back to normal.

And i was attacked when the ship was attacked today, not last night. i just made an assumption when i first read my PM before i read the 7 new pages

[bulletsponge]

Vote Raiders Army

i just have a feeling about him. i couldnt keep up through the last 7 pages as to whom was accusing who, but its either him or Blades who im voting for now

[path12]

I'm taking off for awhile and don't know if I'll be back in time or not, so I will

Vote Tyrith

It's meta, but I just can't help but notice the difference between this game and last in his participation.

[Abe Sargent]

I didn't even know Tyrith was playing

[Fouts]

Ok, caught up. I don't like Hoops reason for being exhausted. There is no reason for an engineer to think he will be attacked randomly out of 4 engineers. He is the most suspicious since SnDvls has been cleared.

Vote Hoops

[Swaggs]

Just catching up now.

A few more pagest to read.

[Swaggs]

So, does anyone have any guesses on the current number of baddies?

The whole NPC set of slaves makes me a little bit nervous.

[hoopsguy]

Surprisingly, not that much to read up on over the last two hours.

Path's observation on Tyrith's lack of participation is right in line with something I had thought about on the train ride earlier today. As of this moment, I'm not going to vote in that direction but I'm definitely surprised at the lack of posts from Tyrith so far this game.

For today, I'm going to cast a vote towards my old buddy Raiders Army. It is uncanny how many games we end up playing on opposite teams (I'll probably faint if I ever learn I'm on the same team as him AND Alan T, but I digress). He also came out early today suggesting that I'm either a spawn or going to be soon, and suggested that the spawn have veteran leadership.

Not a ton to go on, but there are more people that I trust right now than distrust.

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

[Bek]

So, does anyone have any guesses on the current number of baddies?

The whole NPC set of slaves makes me a little bit nervous.

i think that once we are off the ground that we get rid of the slaves asap..as then they are rendered useless...and to the number of baddies..i would have to say 6-8...based off of the number of secret roles for them to have...and im assuming that all of the secret roles are out

[Swaggs]

Anyone have a vote count handy? :)

[Bek]

Anyone have a vote count handy? :)
check me if im wrong but this is what i came up with

raiders-2
hoops-1
tyrith-1
blade-1
Sndvls-1

[saldana]

omg, i am not even playing and i just spent an hour reading this game.


i hate you barkeep.

[hoopsguy]

This is what I'm showing for votes, as of Post #716:
SnDvls - Swaggs (481), Blade (504)
Blade - SnDvls (617)
Raiders - Bullet (706), Hoops (712)
Tyrith - Path (707)
Hoops - Fouts (709)

[Schmidty]

I really have nothing concrete to go on (like everyone else), but I don't like how hard Blade has been going after SnDvls, especially after some info I got earlier.

Yes, I agree that there is a chance that SnDvls is infected, but I know that he doesn't know it even if he is. Blade seems to be pushing extremely hard onto such an obvious target.

Plus, I have to vote for Blade - This is WW. :)

Vote Blade

[Raiders Army]

Freakin 6 pages since I've been at work...gonna take me a minute or two to figure this out.

[dubb93]

Since most of the security staff it going to be AWOL tonight due to prior sleeping arrangements would somone on the command staff be kind enough to order my phasers out and give me one, that way I could use some of my other powers tonight and...you know....actually protect something.

[Abe Sargent]

I roll with Schmidty.


Vote Blade

[Abe Sargent]

No phasers dubb, I don't think. HQ is damaged

[Raiders Army]

I'm not sure who to vote for at this point, but I understand we need to establish voting patterns. I'm a good guy (at least at this point). I'm intrigued as to why hoops voted for me. Was it because I believed that if you weren't bad now, you'll be bad soon?

Anyhow, I'm not going to throw another vote in there for him.

UNVOTE NO VOTE
VOTE DUBB

It has to be a veteran player out there who is pulling the strings for the spawn. If not hoops or SnDvls, then I have to lean towards dubb.

[SnDvls]

I really have nothing concrete to go on (like everyone else), but I don't like how hard Blade has been going after SnDvls, especially after some info I got earlier.

Yes, I agree that there is a chance that SnDvls is infected, but I know that he doesn't know it even if he is. Blade seems to be pushing extremely hard onto such an obvious target.

Plus, I have to vote for Blade - This is WW. :)

Vote Blade

if you choose to believe bullet I can't be infected either per the rules and examinations by the Dr.

[hoopsguy]

Raiders, it was a combination of the idea that I would be converted soon and the repetition of the theme that I'm a likely adversary over a short series of posts that made me nervous about you. Doesn't mean you are spawn, but it is enough to get my vote there for now.

[Swaggs]

Is there any chance of getting a consensus with out votes tonight? Is it worth working towards at this point?

[Bek]

[QUOTE=Schmidty] especially after some info I got earlier.[QUOTE]

care to elaborate???...or did i just miss it earlier

[Bek]

especially after some info I got earlier.

care to elaborate???...or did i just miss it earlier

[bulletsponge]

umm im not sure how this works, but is the room that we can lock peeps in for safety functional? if it isnt i hope i get some protection tonight, and im not talking the latex variety

[Swaggs]

I could easily be swayed from sndvls if there is a good option out there, although I have the feeling that, after today's events, he is going to be a guy that I doubt until proven innocent or guilty.

[Raiders Army]

Raiders, it was a combination of the idea that I would be converted soon and the repetition of the theme that I'm a likely adversary over a short series of posts that made me nervous about you. Doesn't mean you are spawn, but it is enough to get my vote there for now.
I'm not spawn (that I know of), and you have to admit that that the repetition of the theme is warranted. You know how I play and you know I would convert you if I were spawn. So why would I make you a target for other people other than a head fake? My game's not that good... :)

[bulletsponge]

I could easily be swayed from sndvls if there is a good option out there, although I have the feeling that, after today's events, he is going to be a guy that I doubt until proven innocent or guilty.

My doctors exam showed me no signs of any spawndom in him, i personally think he was attacked (nonleathal) for the reason to get us to vote for him and get us to probe him

[dubb93]

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

I have done nothing so far except for give out phasers to every single person who could use them to protect even leaving myself without a phaser.

[Swaggs]

Alright... I am going to watch Nightmares and Dreamscapes for an hour.

I still think we should try to get a vote on someone today, so hopefully there will be some movement before I return.

[path12]

Is there any chance of getting a consensus with out votes tonight? Is it worth working towards at this point?

Well, I'm willing to move, but I guess it depends where.

I mentioned earlier that I find it very unlikely that SnDvls was converted today, if for no other reason the the obviousness of it. If we're going to fall down in convulsions and head pain when we're converted it's gonna be pretty damn easy to pick out what's going on, don't you think?

So I don't think that's an option for me. I might be persuaded to go for Blade, he's a private and as far as we know doesn't have a big role and he was pushing the whole Sn thing pretty hard........but that's just Blade also, and he did make some valid points.

The other person I could be talked into would be hoops. I think Fouts makes a good point about the exhaustion last night......there are four of us engineers and there wasn't a specific reason or threat that necessarily would warrant staying awake. The cons to that argument are: Hoops is incredibly valuable if he's on our side, he's an engineer, and he is hoops -- you have to figure him to be a target at some point so I can understand his decision somewhat.

[hoopsguy]

I'm also willing to try and help us build a consensus. Not sure I want to do it around Blade and I already have my vote on Raiders.

From a public role perspective, we obviously have more concerns if Raiders is a spawn than if Blade is a spawn - water dude vs private. But we also have some additional flexibility this game in terms of shifting people to new roles, so I don't think there is too high a risk in going after someone if we think they are guilty.

Updated vote count that I have (not 100% sure of it, but ...)
SnDvls - Swaggs (481), Blade (504)
Blade - SnDvls (617), Schmidty (718), Anxiety (721)
Raiders - Bullet (706), Hoops (712), Dubb (733)
Tyrith - Path (707)
Hoops - Fouts (709)
Dubb - Raiders (723)

[dubb93]

I'm heading to work for the night. See everyone tomorrow, hope we get us a spawn today.

[path12]

So what's the argument for Raiders? I'll go back through the relevant posts, but it seems to be more gut feel than anything specific.

[hoopsguy]

I would also prefer not to go after SnDvls, not because of the obviousness of it (path's argument) but because we have people vouching for each other at the moment. Alliances can shift quickly in a game where conversions are prominent, but right now we have bullet vouching for CW (scanned Day 1 after mission) and SnDvls (scanned Day 2 after his epileptic fit) and SnDvls vouching for Bullet (duplicant). So with that in mind I have no interest in chasing any of these three. Anyone else, excluding me, and I'm willing to take a hard look down that path.

[hoopsguy]

Path, I'll agree that the Raiders argument is gut feel. And I wish we were in a position to have more than gut feel to work with on Day 2, but I'm not sure that we do when evaluating potentially guilty parties. The stuff I put in Post #739 is why I believe certain people are survivors, but at the moment I don't have anything that looks like a trail of evidence pointing at a spawn.

[path12]

Bullets vote for RA is gut, hoops is gut plus the veteran leadership for the spawn theory (which would of course eventually point back to hoops) and dubbs seems to be retalitory.

Not enough there for me to switch.

[kingfc22]

Geez. Catching up and what the hell went on this morning!!!

[hoopsguy]

Path, I would like to see us move towards a consensus and I don't think it is going to happen on Tyrith. I haven't seen him in the thread today so I'm going to cut him a little bit of slack.

So, do you have any other candidates that you feel good about taking a shot on?

[path12]

Looks like we had a crosspost there, hoops.

I'm fine with not voting for SnDvls, CW or bulletsponge for the reasons you said.

We've got 19 players, so we would need 7 for a successful lynch if I read the rules correctly. I can't go RA for the reasons I said above. I think the only possible consensus today would be Blade by the looks of it.

[path12]

Dola, for the record I'm not thrilled with voting Blade, but does anyone think we can get 7 votes on anybody else?

[hoopsguy]

OK, lets get my devious little mind going - what are your thoughts on the wounded guys? All legit, by virtue of being wounded, or should we still be suspicious that a spawn may have faked being wounded in the middle of their Overlord attack?

[hoopsguy]

If it was someone besides Blade, I would argue that a spawn would not want to draw too much attention on themselves with a Day 2 pissing match. But I'm not sure Blade can stay out of the spotlight even if he wants to :)

[path12]

Could they fake? I wonder.

Along those same speculative lines, what do you think about the whole KWhit/Talgian episode surrounding the order to scan SnDvls?

[SnDvls]

Could they fake? I wonder.


per the rules yes, you can wound yourself

[Fouts]

OK, lets get my devious little mind going - what are your thoughts on the wounded guys? All legit, by virtue of being wounded, or should we still be suspicious that a spawn may have faked being wounded in the middle of their Overlord attack?

When I see some extreme scenario put out, the only thing I can think of is - he is trying to divert our attention or cause confusion.