Werewolf 40,000: The Horus Heresy CHAOS DEFEATED; MUTANTS SURVIVE

[GoldenEagle]

<b>Vote Swaggs</b>

[GoldenEagle]

Sorry for my absence guys. The boos told me know more playing WW at work. I was not very active during Labor Day weekend. Anyway, I quickly scanned everything and tried to make sense out of it all.

Swaggs is my vote at this point. I am not hearing too many mor whispers at this point. (I think choas may have killed my little birdie).

Swaggs just adds up and that is why my vote is for him.

[tanglewood]

Current Day 6 Vote Count

Greyroofoo 5 - Swaggs, Fouts, kingfc, Blade, saldana
Swaggs 3 - Greyroofoo, st.cronin, GoldenEagle

Still To Vote: BrianD, Chief Rum

[saldana]

Current Day 6 Vote Count

Greyroofoo 4 - Swaggs, Fouts, kingfc, Blade
Swaggs 3 - Greyroofoo, st.cronin, GoldenEagle

Still To Vote: saldana, BrianD, Chief Rum, Swaggs

i voted for grey, and you have swaggs listed twice:D

[GoldenEagle]

I am now very suspicious of Blade. I am pretty sure that the chaos brought him back to be a chaos. Anyway, if we lynch grey we are making a mistake. Whoever votes for Greay today will be on my suspicious list.

Before my little birdie was tragically wounded, he told me that without a doubt Swaggs was 100% chaos. Let's see if he is right.

[GoldenEagle]

Dola,

I 100% certain that he is correct.

[saldana]

Sorry for my absence guys. The boos told me know more playing WW at work. I was not very active during Labor Day weekend. Anyway, I quickly scanned everything and tried to make sense out of it all.

Swaggs is my vote at this point. I am not hearing too many mor whispers at this point. (I think choas may have killed my little birdie).

Swaggs just adds up and that is why my vote is for him.

thats all you have to say...you are supposed to be our chaos seeker, but you have yet to give us a chaos...and you havent cleared anyone for days, nor have you died, which as blade says, is odd considering you outed yourself days ago....who have you scanned...inquiring minds want to know.

[tanglewood]

i voted for grey, and you have swaggs listed twice:D

D'oh!

My votecounting has not been very good in this game...

[saldana]

I am now very suspicious of Blade. I am pretty sure that the chaos brought him back to be a chaos. Anyway, if we lynch grey we are making a mistake. Whoever votes for Greay today will be on my suspicious list.

Before my little birdie was tragically wounded, he told me that without a doubt Swaggs was 100% chaos. Let's see if he is right.

i thing the time for cryptic messages is over. are you telling us that your information that you have been saying you "know" the entire game is actually second hand from someone else.

[saldana]

D'oh!

My votecounting has not been very good in this game...

thats ok, neither has my voting.:(

[GoldenEagle]

i thing the time for cryptic messages is over. are you telling us that your information that you have been saying you "know" the entire game is actually second hand from someone else.

I am telling you to switch your vote to Swaggs. There is nothing cryptic about that. Everyone who said I was good so far has turned up dead. If you vote for Grey in this game, I think you are pretty much chaos.

[GoldenEagle]

I will come clean a litle. AlanT had sort of a double seer role. He was able to tell me some things that he saw at night. I believe he was able to view two people at night. Do not let his death go in vain. You need to vote Swaggs and one need one more to as well.

[saldana]

I am telling you to switch your vote to Swaggs. There is nothing cryptic about that. Everyone who said I was good so far has turned up dead. If you vote for Grey in this game, I think you are pretty much chaos.

simple question since you seem to be ignoring the more complicated ones.

who did you scan last night?

[saldana]

I will come clean a litle. AlanT had sort of a double seer role. He was able to tell me some things that he saw at night. I believe he was able to view two people at night. Do not let his death go in vain. You need to vote Swaggs and one need one more to as well.

a completely un-verifyable statement...how bout something more concrete, like an answer to my last post.

[GoldenEagle]

simple question since you seem to be ignoring the more complicated ones.

who did you scan last night?

I have no scanning abiliites. I have said time and time again that people bring information to me. The information has been spot on each time. There is no reason think the a dead good memeber would lie to me.

[Swaggs]

I will come clean a litle. AlanT had sort of a double seer role. He was able to tell me some things that he saw at night. I believe he was able to view two people at night. Do not let his death go in vain. You need to vote Swaggs and one need one more to as well.

And that is why he voted for me every night, right?

Or did he tell you last night when he was killed?

[saldana]

Grey came to me last night and we discussed Blade. I do not know why he came to me. He told me Blade was not chaos and I have every reason to believe him. Blade may be human or he may be a mutant, but he is not chaos.

I have a theory that both Grey and Blade may be mutants and they are possibly trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. But our targets are not mutants. We are trying to kill off chaos right now.

I do not know what to think of saldana and Alan T being buddies. If we kill saldana and he is clean, then it is going to look very bad for Blade and very good for Alan T.

But as of right now, this is my vote.

<b>Vote saldana</b>


interesting that you are saying alan is your source of information...since in this post you go directly against what he had been saying for hours leading up to it, that i am a good guy.....if alan could tell you things about his views, why would you be voting for me when he was yelling at the top of his lungs that i was 100% loyal to the emperor.

[saldana]

I have no scanning abiliites. I have said time and time again that people bring information to me. The information has been spot on each time. There is no reason think the a dead good memeber would lie to me.

then explain to me what you do at night.

[GoldenEagle]

That was on what, Day 1? More information has become more avaliable since then.

[Swaggs]

Seriously GE, when did Alan tell you this and why hadn't he voted for me throughout the entire game? If I were 100% chaos, wouldn't he have dropped that hint since he outted himself several days ago?

[GoldenEagle]

then explain to me what you do at night.

People come to me with information or I go see them.

[GoldenEagle]

Seriously GE, when did Alan tell you this and why hadn't he voted for me throughout the entire game? If I were 100% chaos, wouldn't he have dropped that hint since he outted himself several days ago?


I do not know, maybe he was waiting to reveal it or maybe he saw who killed him, which was you.

[Swaggs]

I do not know, maybe he was waiting to reveal it or maybe he saw who killed him, which was you.

Either of those scenarios make sense.

He was a loyal human and let other loyal humans get lynched day after day while he knew I was 100% chaos.

or

I killed him and then he told you it was me afterwards. Gotcha.

[saldana]

People come to me with information or I go see them.

did you do either of these last night.

[Swaggs]

If the vote was not close, I would be voting for GE b/c he is clearly lying.

[tanglewood]

Voting is closed.

[tanglewood]

FINAL Day 6 Vote Count

Greyroofoo 5 - Swaggs, Fouts, kingfc, Blade, saldana
Swaggs 4 - Greyroofoo, st.cronin, GoldenEagle, BrianD

Did Not Vote: Chief Rum

Writeup coming shortly.

[Swaggs]

Wait Tangle...

Chief voted for me earlier, so unless he unvoted and I missed it, it should be 5-4.

[saldana]

Okay. I have a 30 minute break right now before I have to get back to work.

I investigated GE last night because he hadn't given us any new info lately and I thought he might be sandbagging. He is part of the imperium and can spot a Chaos member from a mile away.



now this is funny....ge is saying he cant do anything except collect information from other people, but king is saying that ge is able to spot chaos from a mile away....me thinks me smells something like cattle poo.

[Alan T]

Wait Tangle...

Chief voted for me earlier, so unless he unvoted and I missed it, it should be 5-4.


Chief's vote was before night actions were processed. Tangle hasnt been counting those

[Mustang]

Wow.. amazing. Although.. I have no idea if Grey is a mutant but, I seriously doubt it.

Fouts, you keep asking what other chaos members I PM and I told you, Anxiety and Swaggs. That is it..

As a matter of fact, I didn't even PM anxiety because, by the time I was in the fold and could communicate, he was dead. I was only allowed to communicate with other chaos members once I was contacted. (Which was night 2)

I can't PM anyone now because.

1.) I'm dead
2.) I'm not chaos

So, while you keeping asking the same question 10 different ways, I'll keep answering it the same way.

Anyone else have any questions now that it is the night.

[saldana]

Okay. I have a 30 minute break right now before I have to get back to work.

I investigated GE last night because he hadn't given us any new info lately and I thought he might be sandbagging. He is part of the imperium and can spot a Chaos member from a mile away.

Wait Tangle...

Chief voted for me earlier, so unless he unvoted and I missed it, it should be 5-4.

chiefs vote was still during the night, and doesnt count.

[Swaggs]

Post 2110 Chief Rum voted for me.

[Swaggs]

Chief's vote was before night actions were processed. Tangle hasnt been counting those

Gotcha. My bad.

[saldana]

GE, still waiting to hear what you did last night.

[tanglewood]

Blade's reappearance is met by confusion, but the council has more important matters to attend to. Suspicions fall once again on Swaggs, whose spout of information during the day fuilled some with confidence and others with disbelief, and Greyroofoo. Eventually the vote comes close, but this time it will not be a tie. Greyroofoo has been selected as the player to be executed today.

Greyroofoo seems angry that he has been selected and lashes out at the various members of the council that have senteced him. "The very though that the Ecclesiarch is a traior! Proposterous! You will all see the Emperor i death and be thankful for whatever punishment he deems fit to administer." He spits on the floor and strides, head held high to the execution plank. "I shall not lay my head, it is demeaning for one of my position. Strike me down as I stand executioner." The council is slightly confused, but Fouts gently nods to the executioner who raises his power axe and cleaves Greyroofoo's head neatly in two, split from forehead to neck. As the body stutters slightly before collapsing on the ground the various aides and servants of the council rush forth to collect samples for testing. After several short but rigorous tests are performed it becomes apparant that once again you have executed one who is loyal to the Emperor. Another sad day of proceedings.

Night 6 ends at 9AM EST

[saldana]

unreal, my vote for tomorrow should be for myself, but since GE is so full of crap that his eyes are brown, i will be voting for him if i survive the night.

[BrianD]

Un-fucking-believable people. Nice going Blade, come back from the dead and railroad an innocent.

Fouts, are you ever going to believe me? You have been following everyone else and getting it wrong every time. I pushed hard for Bullet to live, I have been trying to work with Alan and I have been saying the whole game how we should be trusting Grey.

I'm not sure what else I can do to help us win.

[BrianD]

dola,

unreal, my vote for tomorrow should be for myself, but since GE is so full of crap that his eyes are brown, i will be voting for him if i survive the night.

I know you are not that dumb...

[BrianD]

double dola,

Someone asked me about my role. I am an elite warrior and a veteran of many battles. As King said earlier, if I get killed, I will be taking one of my attackers with me. As I understand it, I have no ability to choose who it will be or whether or not I attack. Basically I will retaliate and take out one of my attackers. That is my role.

[BrianD]

FINAL Day 6 Vote Count

Greyroofoo 5 - Swaggs, Fouts, kingfc, Blade, saldana
Swaggs 3 - Greyroofoo, st.cronin, GoldenEagle

Still To Vote: BrianD, Chief Rum

Writeup coming shortly.

For the record, I voted for Swaggs pretty early today.

[tanglewood]

For the record, I voted for Swaggs pretty early today.

Argh, you are correct. I even went back and checked twice for your vote because thought you did vote, but didn't find it. Fortunately it didn't matter in the end.

[GoldenEagle]

Wait Tangle...

Chief voted for me earlier, so unless he unvoted and I missed it, it should be 5-4.


You were quick to point out that CR voted for you. Perhaps you two are working together?

[BrianD]

Post 2110 Chief Rum voted for me.

Plus my vote makes it 5-5, but Fouts had the tie-breaker, so it really didn't change anything.

[Swaggs]

You were quick to point out that CR voted for you. Perhaps you two are working together?

Yup. Perhaps I was hoping I could break a tie and get myself lynched. Or I could have just been trying to help avoid a potential problem.

But as much sense as you have been making the last few hours, you probably do think we are working together.

BTW, still haven't heard you explain how you found out from Alan that I am 100% chaos, even though he never voted for me. You selectively omitting that because you don't have a good answer?

[saldana]

You were quick to point out that CR voted for you. Perhaps you two are working together?

perhaps you would like to answer my 5 times asked question about what you did last night.

[Blade6119]

Yup. Perhaps I was hoping I could break a tie and get myself lynched. Or I could have just been trying to help avoid a potential problem.

But as much sense as you have been making the last few hours, you probably do think we are working together.

BTW, still haven't heard you explain how you found out from Alan that I am 100% chaos, even though he never voted for me. You selectively omitting that because you don't have a good answer?
This does cast a rather bad light on you swaggs...and myself, granted, but stuff didnt add up(just like when you guys lynched me). I guess its swaggs tomorrow, though GE's reveal today sounds like total BS after what Fozzie was hinting at...

[Mustang]

I don't know what more it will take to convince you guys that Swaggs is chaos.

Especially after Grey's death.

[saldana]

blade, just in case you didnt see it, check out post 2279 by me...its a quote of kings which begs the question of who is full of it....GE, King, or both

[Swaggs]

This does cast a rather bad light on you swaggs...and myself, granted, but stuff didnt add up(just like when you guys lynched me). I guess its swaggs tomorrow, though GE's reveal today sounds like total BS after what Fozzie was hinting at...

What? Me pointing out that Chief's vote had not been counted? I was just trying to be fair and make sure people didn't complain and/or cause tanglewood to make a judgement if all of the votes weren't properly counted up.

I have had a very bad light since last night and I'm not really sure what to do about it, other than tell you all that I cannot be killed by a lynching, so it will be a waste of time. You guys think you will do it two days in a row and I will die, but that is not the case. I am cursed and abnormal, but I am loyal to the emperor. This is a ridiculous attempt for the chaos to buy time and get free night kills. But, it is so outlandish that it is believable.

None of the half dozen seers have ever searched me or indicated that they have verified that I am chaos. I volunteered my role reveal, stood behind Alan T when people were questioning him (and he has since been proven to be a loyal human) because I had learned about his alignment from my research, I voted for Anxiety when the evidence pointed towards him, and I am standing up for Fouts now due to my research.

Golden Eagle is clearly caught in some lies that he will not address. According to him, Alan told him that I was 100% chaos, yet Alan never voted for me and he couldn't have told him last night, because he was dead.

[BrianD]

This does cast a rather bad light on you swaggs...and myself, granted, but stuff didnt add up(just like when you guys lynched me). I guess its swaggs tomorrow, though GE's reveal today sounds like total BS after what Fozzie was hinting at...

Considering Grey cleared GE, I'm willing to let him walk until we are out of other options.

At some point we are going to need to talk about who brought you back. I'm willing to believe that your heart was in the right place today with your railroad of Grey, but having the proper person speaking up for you wouldn't hurt. I believe that the person that brought you back is probably one of the few in the untrusted list, so this might bring that person over to the trusted side.

[Swaggs]

Considering Grey cleared GE, I'm willing to let him walk until we are out of other options.

At some point we are going to need to talk about who brought you back. I'm willing to believe that your heart was in the right place today with your railroad of Grey, but having the proper person speaking up for you wouldn't hurt. I believe that the person that brought you back is probably one of the few in the untrusted list, so this might bring that person over to the trusted side.

My guess is that it was Chief Rum. He is the only one who hasn't checked in since this morning (since he had a double work shift) and I don't see any good reason why the person would not claim it to clear Blade and, potentially, himself.

[BrianD]

My guess is that it was Chief Rum. He is the only one who hasn't checked in since this morning (since he had a double work shift) and I don't see any good reason why the person would not claim it to clear Blade and, potentially, himself.

He is one of the 3 or 4 that I find most likely.

[GoldenEagle]

I did not do anything last night, saldana. I sat in my quaters. I did have a couple of vistors, but other than that, that's it. Nothing special.

[Blade6119]

I did not do anything last night, saldana. I sat in my quaters. I did have a couple of vistors, but other than that, that's it. Nothing special.

who?

[kingfc22]

Damn we suck this game.

Good guys: Brian, saldna (mutant), GE (very unhelpful considering his role), king

Uncertain group:
Chief Rum (probably raised blade, likely good)
Blade (is he still on the side of the emperor)
Swaggs (mustang and GE say chaos, he claims vampire role)
St. Cronin (if his role is SO important, why isn't he dead yet?)

[BrianD]

Damn we suck this game.

Good guys: Brian, saldna (mutant), GE (very unhelpful considering his role), king

Uncertain group:
Chief Rum (probably raised blade, likely good)
Blade (is he still on the side of the emperor)
Swaggs (mustang and GE say chaos, he claims vampire role)
St. Cronin (if his role is SO important, why isn't he dead yet?)

I've got Fouts on the good-guy list, though I can see why the Chaos haven't killed him yet.

[kingfc22]

I've got Fouts on the good-guy list, though I can see why the Chaos haven't killed him yet.

Aww thanks. Knew I was missing someone.

[Mustang]

I've got Fouts on the good-guy list, though I can see why the Chaos haven't killed him yet.

Why kill him? He was the tie breaker on me and then he voted from Grey. Even if he is good, he is more valuable to Chaos right now by making all the wrong decisions.

[BrianD]

Why kill him? He was the tie breaker on me and then he voted from Grey. Even if he is good, he is more valuable to Chaos right now by making all the wrong decisions.

Yes, that would be why I said I can see why he hasn't been killed yet.

[BrianD]

dola,

He is doing their work for them.

[Blade6119]

dola,

He is doing their work for them.

Has fouts been scanned yet? If not, he might be doing his own work...i dont know, i still dont know all of who scanned who

[Swaggs]

Has fouts been scanned yet? If not, he might be doing his own work...i dont know, i still dont know all of who scanned who

No one has scanned me.

Well, except Alan T, according to GE.

[Swaggs]

In fact, I cannot understand why no one scanned me last night after all the accusations.

[Mustang]

Yes, that would be why I said I can see why he hasn't been killed yet.

By fault, misread that. :)

[Mustang]

oops..

MY fault..

[GoldenEagle]

Fouts is being a chaos team player. Everyone of his decisions has been wrong right now.

He is good though.

[Blade6119]

he was here, and didnt, so for the purposes of good:

Chief Rum cloned me

[Chief Rum]

he was here, and didnt, so for the purposes of good:

Chief Rum cloned me

Heh, heh, I hadn't decided how to write it out yet. :)

Yes, I was the one who cloned Blade. This is a one-time, private role I had from the very beginning of the game. It takes three uninterrupted nights to achieve this, and fortunately, I managed to survive long enough and not get attacked by Chaos during this process.

It appears I have developed this process after years of research aimed at improving the skills of my men, who are already genetically-enhanced super soldiers.

I chose Blade, because he was proven to be good and to have a valuable role against Chaos, as the bodyguard. I felt bringing him back would be a valuable tool for us to finally finish off the Chaos scourge in our midst.

I was given no indication that Blade is anything but an exact clone of who he once was. As such, he should still be good and loyal to the emperor, and have his full bodyguard abilities.

I also knew bringing Blade back would be risky, because his strong opinions might lead us down the wrong path. Alas, this came to fruition immediately, as he was key in getting grey lynched, a move I would not have supported.

I still feel the benefit of having another good villager with bodyguard powers outweighs Blade's sometimes misguided opinions (if earnestly and honestly held). I welcome him back to the game.

[kingfc22]

Heh, heh, I hadn't decided how to write it out yet. :)

Yes, I was the one who cloned Blade. This is a one-time, private role I had from the very beginning of the game. It takes three uninterrupted nights to achieve this, and fortunately, I managed to survive long enough and not get attacked by Chaos during this process.

It appears I have developed this process after years of research aimed at improving the skills of my men, who are already genetically-enhanced super soldiers.

I chose Blade, because he was proven to be good and to have a valuable role against Chaos, as the bodyguard. I felt bringing him back would be a valuable tool for us to finally finish off the Chaos scourge in our midst.

I was given no indication that Blade is anything but an exact clone of who he once was. As such, he should still be good and loyal to the emperor, and have his full bodyguard abilities.

I also knew bringing Blade back would be risky, because his strong opinions might lead us down the wrong path. Alas, this came to fruition immediately, as he was key in getting grey lynched, a move I would not have supported.

I still feel the benefit of having another good villager with bodyguard powers outweighs Blade's sometimes misguided opinions (if earnestly and honestly held). I welcome him back to the game.

Well that leaves Swaggs and Cronin.

[Blade6119]

Well that leaves Swaggs and Cronin.

Then if everyone is telling the truth, wouldnt it be better to kill cronin and prevent a ratio win when when we have to double kill swaggs, as its possible if he has to double lynch(chaos lord?) then they can win while we do it. Brainstorming

[Fouts]

Well, got it wrong again. What can I say? When you lie it comes back to haunt you (Grey's description of visiting GE). Why didn't Grey try to convert Swaggs?

I guess it must be Swaggs then. I'm shocked we only found 1 chaos with 3 seers. Pitiful.

BTW, Grey visited me last night and he reported what happened, so I won't repeat it. Just look at what he said.

I realize I have made some wrong assumptions, but I can only guess by how you people post and what information you choose to give me. Hold your info close to your vest and act weird, then I'm going to suspect you.

[Fouts]

Fouts is being a chaos team player. Everyone of his decisions has been wrong right now.

He is good though.

Not true;

Day 1 - pushed for bullet over realdeal (right, but both villagers)
Day 2 - blade over saldana (wrong, but saldana misled me)
Day 3 - Anxiety (right, easy with 23's info)
Day 4 - bullet over st.cronin (wrong, but st.cronin was on my trust list)
Day 5 - Mustang (wrong? - Tangle won't tell us)
Day 6 - Grey (wrong, blade convinced me)

See, only mostly wrong. My saving grace is that, most of the time, I am deliberately being misled. People won't give up the info. Shame on them.

How does GE know I'm good? If he knows stuff, why doesn't he tell us?

[st.cronin]

You people are, as Blade would say, idiots. Blade might be good, but grey never made any sense as a suspect. Can we please lynch Swaggs? There is no reason not to take Mustang at his word.

[Chief Rum]

I am leaving for the day again, although this time, I will be back shortly before the deadline to get my vote in. Hopefully we will find a Chaos today.

[tanglewood]

Again the council convenes in the morning to find itself down a member, this time it appears to be st.cronin who has suffered. He is completely disembowelled, still lying on his bed in his quarters. Your thoughts immediately turn to the Emperor's Golden Throne. It seems to be operating well enough at present, but for how much longer that will be who can say? Have the Chaos struck a terminal blow?

Day 7 ends 9PM EST

[st.cronin]

Well, good luck guys.

[Fouts]

vote swaggs

[BrianD]

vote swaggs

Thank you.

Vote Swaggs

[Blade6119]

Interesting night kill. Either swaggs is desperate to win, or its not swaggs. Killing st. cronin is very interesting though...leaves only him as a target, which reminds me of last game.

[Swaggs]

Man, I have been trying to be helpful, have voted for two (in my opinion) evil players in Anxiety and Mustang, and have cleared two players that are verified as loyal (Alan and Fouts), and you guys are still coming after me?

Not one of the half dozen players with seer abilities has viewed me as not loyal to the emperor.

Meanwhile, GE is pulling tons of stuff out of his ass, trying to get the vote to stick to me and he is not a suspect, at all.

I'm pretty sure the chaos have already won. With st. cronin dead, the emperor won't stay alive for, I'm guessing, more than two or three days. You guys are going to keep voting for me, and I'm going to keep surviving it, until the emperor's life support fails. Nicely played chaos.

I may as well help the chaos by revealing my latest bit of research: Basically, if both Fouts and Alan T are killed, I will fall prey to the curse and become loyal to the Chaos Daemon Lord. I'm guessing since none of you have tried to kill me at night, and I can't be killed by day, I could end up on the winning team if Fouts dies.

I swear, you all are getting played so badly and don't even see it.

Vote Golden Eagle.

[Swaggs]

and one last thing before I leave until lunch...

Didn't Mustang say I would be busy converting people and there wouldn't be any night kills? So, two night kills in a row and, according to Mustang, two converts later... and you guys are believing him over me? Nice.

[BrianD]

and one last thing before I leave until lunch...

Didn't Mustang say I would be busy converting people and there wouldn't be any night kills? So, two night kills in a row and, according to Mustang, two converts later... and you guys are believing him over me? Nice.

Once again, it all comes back to Grey. He cleared Mustang and he was (finally) proven to be good, so that makes us trust Mustang. If we lynch you twice and you turn out to be good, there is still time to look at GE before the Chaos get their ratio.

[Blade6119]

Swaggs, i went out of my way yesterday to make sure you didnt die. I went after my target, got him lynched, and now look like the complete idiot i mentioned others might be. Grey scanned GE, grey was good, so GE should be to. I could have bought a case against fouts or brian, maybe, but GE earned his trust in grey's death...

[BrianD]

dola,

I suppose I should say if we lynch you twice and you are still around, there is still time to look at GE.

[Blade6119]

dola,

I suppose I should say if we lynch you twice and you are still around, there is still time to look at GE.
You setting us up brian? Who has scanned you by the way, i forget. Im sure someone did, right?

[BrianD]

Swaggs, i went out of my way yesterday to make sure you didnt die. I went after my target, got him lynched, and now look like the complete idiot i mentioned others might be. Grey scanned GE, grey was good, so GE should be to. I could have bought a case against fouts or brian, maybe, but GE earned his trust in grey's death...

Any by extension, Fouts and I should be cleared too since Grey cleared us all. At this point, my only Chaos suspects are Swaggs and Kingfc22, but I really think Swaggs is the guy.

[BrianD]

You setting us up brian? Who has scanned you by the way, i forget. Im sure someone did, right?

Grey did in his night 2 scan.

If you think I am setting you up, I think I'll go over to the corner and cry for a while.

[Blade6119]

This is my offical sucking up to Blade post. I dunno how he was brought back, by who, or for what purpose.

I just know that blade is my only hope for survival tonight.

sorry mate...:(

[Blade6119]

Grey did in his night 2 scan.

If you think I am setting you up, I think I'll go over to the corner and cry for a while.

I just still have that bad taste in my mouth from last game when i was set up, and they killed every suspect but me. Cronin's death either means swaggs is desperate, or its not him. Im exploring both routes in my head, as if he is being set up your comments would strongly be the best fit. Going back to look at grey's posts now

[BrianD]

I just still have that bad taste in my mouth from last game when i was set up, and they killed every suspect but me. Cronin's death either means swaggs is desperate, or its not him. Im exploring both routes in my head, as if he is being set up your comments would strongly be the best fit. Going back to look at grey's posts now

Please also go back and read my posts. I've been practically begging people to trust Grey. I've also been trying really hard to get Alan and Fouts to see that they were about to lynch good people. Now I certainly haven't always been right like trying to lynch st.cronin rather that Bullet, but I've been pushing hard to save the people that I really believed were good. If I was trying to play you, I would have allowed myself to be "convinced" that Grey was bad, or that Bullet was bad. I wouldn't be fighting for them so hard if I didn't believe them.

If you go back to the early parts of the game, you'll see that I've been one of the very few people putting the clues together correctly.

[Blade6119]

Please also go back and read my posts. I've been practically begging people to trust Grey. I've also been trying really hard to get Alan and Fouts to see that they were about to lynch good people. Now I certainly haven't always been right like trying to lynch st.cronin rather that Bullet, but I've been pushing hard to save the people that I really believed were good. If I was trying to play you, I would have allowed myself to be "convinced" that Grey was bad, or that Bullet was bad. I wouldn't be fighting for them so hard if I didn't believe them.

If you go back to the early parts of the game, you'll see that I've been one of the very few people putting the clues together correctly.
Did anyone scan king or fouts?

[BrianD]

Did anyone scan king or fouts?

Grey scanned Fouts. Nobody scanned King.

Here are the people that are left:
GE - cleared by Grey
Fouts - cleared by Grey
BrianD - cleared by Grey
Saldana - cleared by Alan - accused by King of being a mutant
Blade - cleared by death
ChiefRum - brought back good bodyguard
Kingfc22 - never cleared - revealing roles
Swaggs - never cleared - accused by Mustang of being Chaos
Mustang - cleared by Grey - accused Swaggs - ghost of unknown allegiance

[Blade6119]

Grey scanned Fouts. Nobody scanned King.

Here are the people that are left:
GE - cleared by Grey
Fouts - cleared by Grey
BrianD - cleared by Grey
Saldana - cleared by Alan - accused by King of being a mutant
Blade - cleared by death
ChiefRum - brought back good bodyguard
Kingfc22 - never cleared - revealing roles
Swaggs - never cleared - accused by Mustang of being Chaos
Mustang - cleared by Grey - accused Swaggs - ghost of unknown allegiance

So, why arent we looking at king too?

If king sees this, who have you been scanning?

[BrianD]

So, why arent we looking at king too?

If king sees this, who have you been scanning?

Who have I been scanning? I don't have the ability to scan anyone.

Right now I am considering King the number 2 target since he is the only other uncleared person. The reason I've got Swaggs as number 1 is because of Mustang. King has been revealing roles, but I'm not sure if that is helpful or not. It probably helps us understand why Chaos are picking certain victims which helps us find them, but I consider Kings reveals to be pretty neutral. Swaggs hasn't really been providing any info or really pushing much analysis.

[BrianD]

dola,

I understand your post now, you were asking King who he was scanning. Sorry.

[Blade6119]

dola,

I understand your post now, you were asking King who he was scanning. Sorry.

Its all good...i am interested to see who king has scanned the last 2 nights, but i doubt it will be that helpful. I suppose, if we have 9 left, even if both are bad we have the time to kill them off. I just have this feeling after the cronin kill we dont have any time left..

[BrianD]

Its all good...i am interested to see who king has scanned the last 2 nights, but i doubt it will be that helpful. I suppose, if we have 9 left, even if both are bad we have the time to kill them off. I just have this feeling after the cronin kill we dont have any time left..

We have 8 left since Mustang is just a ghost. I included him in my list since he was connected to my reasoning for others. If Swaggs and King are both bad, it will take us 3 weeks to knock them both off. In that time we will lose 2 more humans. That would leave us with 4 survivors. We do have time to get at both of them, but there won't be a whole lot of extra time.

[Blade6119]

We have 8 left since Mustang is just a ghost. I included him in my list since he was connected to my reasoning for others. If Swaggs and King are both bad, it will take us 3 weeks to knock them both off. In that time we will lose 2 more humans. That would leave us with 4 survivors. We do have time to get at both of them, but there won't be a whole lot of extra time.
im still very wary of king, but for now
VOTE SWAGGS

[Blade6119]

dola, and by time i meant we might lose earlier then the ratio due to cronin's role with the throne

[BrianD]

im still very wary of king, but for now
VOTE SWAGGS

I understand your feeling, but like you said, we've got time for both.

While the killing of st.cronin last night might have been an act of desperation, I think it helped us out. Cronin was still in my untrusted list, and we may have eventually wasted another week lynching him (after Swaggs). Hopefully his death doesn't trigger our loss, but this was the first time (I think) that the kill was against an untrusted.

[saldana]

before i vote today, i would like to hear from king and golden eagle about why king says GE is a chaos seer and GE says he is nothing.

[Swaggs]

Swaggs hasn't really been providing any info or really pushing much analysis.

A few days ago Alan said I was the only logical player remaining and Fouts agreed. The only reason you don't think I have been providing analysis is because of Mustang making ridiculous accusations on me.

Review the facts:
--Mustang is the only one accusing me of being Chaos.
--Mustang says that I can convert or kill at night.
--There have been two night deaths since Mustang said that there would not be any, since I would be busy making conversions.
--Mustang attempted to murder Alan.
--Mustang is now a ghost.
--Mustang was never been cleared.
--Mustang, even after death, has not been cleared.
--None of our half dozen seers have identified me as disloyal, despite two days of accusations.

If you want my analysis (it is all speculation based on behavior and evidence), I think King probably knew that I had the ability to not be killed during the day and told Mustang. I think Golden Eagle (based on his odd behavior yesterday, including the fact that he claimed to have talked to Alan, who never voted for me, and that he waited until 10 minutes before the deadline to accuse me) was probably converted at some point, after he was cleared early on by Grey (I believe, may have been twothree). GE may be just confused, but his behavior definitely seems off the past few days.

I believe that the chaos members are using my curse and the fact that I cannot die during the day to buy time for the emperor to die now that st. cronin is gone. If the emperor's condition progressively weakens the longer that st. cronin is dead and you guys continue to vote for me without me dying, you will be giving the game to them.

Any questions, feel free to ask. I have nothing to hide and am one of a handfull of players in this game that have not been caught in a lie.

[GoldenEagle]

Blade, do you still have your bodyguard abillities?

[Swaggs]

I understand your feeling, but like you said, we've got time for both.


This does not concern you at all?

Again the council convenes in the morning to find itself down a member, this time it appears to be st.cronin who has suffered. He is completely disembowelled, still lying on his bed in his quarters. Your thoughts immediately turn to the Emperor's Golden Throne. It seems to be operating well enough at present, but for how much longer that will be who can say? Have the Chaos struck a terminal blow?


To me, this very clearly says we do not have time for both.

[BrianD]

A few days ago Alan said I was the only logical player remaining and Fouts agreed. The only reason you don't think I have been providing analysis is because of Mustang making ridiculous accusations on me.

Review the facts:
--Mustang is the only one accusing me of being Chaos.

As a converted Chaos (if Grey is to be believed), he is the only one who could have that knowledge.

--Mustang says that I can convert or kill at night.
--There have been two night deaths since Mustang said that there would not be any, since I would be busy making conversions.

I would expect Mustang to have beliefs about your strategy, but your strategy is really your own. I personally don't believe you can convert, but Mustang did mention that he couldn't contact others until you contacted him. It isn't exactly a conversion, but it does help explain the different numbers of kills/attacks on different days.

--Mustang attempted to murder Alan.

Before the conversion (if Grey is to be believed)

--Mustang is now a ghost.

Meaningless on both sides.

--Mustang was never been cleared.
--Mustang, even after death, has not been cleared.

He was cleared by Grey. We just can't verify Grey's clearing.

--None of our half dozen seers have identified me as disloyal, despite two days of accusations.

I don't think anyone has looked at you, but everyone else has been looked at and cleared (except King).

[BrianD]

This does not concern you at all?

To me, this very clearly says we do not have time for both.

It very clearly says nothing. It implies that time is running out, but we don't know how fast. I think you are trying to scare us into killing King first since he would die in one day rather than your two days, and you are hoping that delaying your lynch for a day will give you enough time to have the emperor die.

I fully expect the game to be over in two days when we take you out. I just wish we had more time to hunt down the mutants, but I'd prefer a minor victory to a total defeat.

[BrianD]

GE, do you have anything you want to say about all of this? Any good info come to you last night?

[GoldenEagle]

Alright, it is time for me to admit who I really am, regardless of what happens. I hope that Blade can protect me tonight but we will just have to wait and see. Time may be running out and we need to kill the chaos as soon as possible.

I am the human seer. Yes I have been confusing the hell out of people to try to make sure that I was not killed. That is why my stories did not add up. We made a mistake in lynching in Grey becuase that is who I think the chaos had pinned as the human seer. Anyway, here are my actions from night 1:

Night 1: Blade - Not a chaos supporter
Night 2: Alan T - Not a chaos supporter
Night 3: Fouts - Not a chaos supporter
Night 4: Swaggs - He is chaos
Night 5: Brian D - Not a chaos supporter
Night 6: Chief Rum - Not a chaos supporter.

That leaves saldana and kingfc22 as the only ones who have not been cleared. Hopefully, I can be protected and view someone tonight. We will see how that goes. I did not reveal until I got the view tonight, but that is the ways things are.

<b>Vote Swaggs</b>

[saldana]

ok GE, since i know you are telling the truth about nights 5 and 6 because i saw you both times, i will go with you on this

vote swaggs

[saldana]

dola, i saw alan being viewed on night 2 and fouts on night 3 as well, but didnt know by whom, and since i never said that, there is no way you would have been able to insert 4 of 6 people in the right slots.

i firmly believe GE at this point. and just for future reference, yesterday would have been a much better time to do this.

[BrianD]

Night 5: Brian D - Not a chaos supporter


So that explains why Saldana was asking about my actions before the Grey lynching. I wondered what that was about since I wasn't roaming around.

This really would have been good info yesterday since it would have confirmed what Mustang said and moved the lynching to Swaggs.

[saldana]

So that explains why Saldana was asking about my actions before the Grey lynching. I wondered what that was about since I wasn't roaming around.

This really would have been good info yesterday since it would have confirmed what Mustang said and moved the lynching to Swaggs.

yes brian...i saw both of you in the same vision, which has always meant in the past that you are being scanned...but since ge was babbling about alan coming to visit him, i wanted to know if he actually left his room

[Blade6119]

Blade, do you still have your bodyguard abillities?

Yes

[Blade6119]

dola, if he had revealed yesterday i could have cleared chief, and we could have used last nights scan much better

[GoldenEagle]

Viewing Chief Rum cleared two people. If you would have said something yesterday, then we would not have been able to trust you.

[Fouts]

Man, I have been trying to be helpful, have voted for two (in my opinion) evil players in Anxiety and Mustang, and have cleared two players that are verified as loyal (Alan and Fouts), and you guys are still coming after me?

Not one of the half dozen players with seer abilities has viewed me as not loyal to the emperor.

Meanwhile, GE is pulling tons of stuff out of his ass, trying to get the vote to stick to me and he is not a suspect, at all.

I'm pretty sure the chaos have already won. With st. cronin dead, the emperor won't stay alive for, I'm guessing, more than two or three days. You guys are going to keep voting for me, and I'm going to keep surviving it, until the emperor's life support fails. Nicely played chaos.

I may as well help the chaos by revealing my latest bit of research: Basically, if both Fouts and Alan T are killed, I will fall prey to the curse and become loyal to the Chaos Daemon Lord. I'm guessing since none of you have tried to kill me at night, and I can't be killed by day, I could end up on the winning team if Fouts dies.

I swear, you all are getting played so badly and don't even see it.

Vote Golden Eagle.

Crap, I guess this means you are killing me next. Oh well, I played a crappy game.

[Fouts]

Alright, it is time for me to admit who I really am, regardless of what happens. I hope that Blade can protect me tonight but we will just have to wait and see. Time may be running out and we need to kill the chaos as soon as possible.

I am the human seer. Yes I have been confusing the hell out of people to try to make sure that I was not killed. That is why my stories did not add up. We made a mistake in lynching in Grey becuase that is who I think the chaos had pinned as the human seer. Anyway, here are my actions from night 1:

Night 1: Blade - Not a chaos supporter
Night 2: Alan T - Not a chaos supporter
Night 3: Fouts - Not a chaos supporter
Night 4: Swaggs - He is chaos
Night 5: Brian D - Not a chaos supporter
Night 6: Chief Rum - Not a chaos supporter.

That leaves saldana and kingfc22 as the only ones who have not been cleared. Hopefully, I can be protected and view someone tonight. We will see how that goes. I did not reveal until I got the view tonight, but that is the ways things are.

<b>Vote Swaggs</b>

So we have 2 human seers (twothree and GE)? And you let us kill Mustang and Grey without saying anything. Gee thanks for the help.

[Swaggs]

Awesome, yet another seer.

Hopefully someone kills me tonight. I can't wait for the story to change again tomorrow. Maybe I'll need lynched five times instead.

[hoopsguy]

The best part of all the seers is thinking to what it was like the one time I got that role in a WW game. I was pumped, getting the stud role in the game that gives you an inside track to understanding what is happening. Now, I wonder what it must have been like to be a seer in this game about the time when anywhere from 3-5 other people are claiming to be seers by Day 3.

[Swaggs]

The best part of all the seers is thinking to what it was like the one time I got that role in a WW game. I was pumped, getting the stud role in the game that gives you an inside track to understanding what is happening. Now, I wonder what it must have been like to be a seer in this game about the time when anywhere from 3-5 other people are claiming to be seers by Day 3.


I'm sure if you observe for long enough, you will become a seer, too. :)

[Alan T]

The best part of all the seers is thinking to what it was like the one time I got that role in a WW game. I was pumped, getting the stud role in the game that gives you an inside track to understanding what is happening. Now, I wonder what it must have been like to be a seer in this game about the time when anywhere from 3-5 other people are claiming to be seers by Day 3.

I'll comment on that after the game is over!

[Blade6119]

this day is slowwwwwww...but king is here, and im still waiting on his updated scan/role list

[kingfc22]

Vote Swaggs

As far as Blade asking who I have investiaged:

Night 1: St. Cronin - important to the Golden Throne, Emperor may be in danger if he dies

Night 2: Alan - tries to convert people to the emperor. After hearing grey could do the same thing and succeeded with mustang I thought he might be a mutant. Also he was agreeing with Saldana alot.

Night 3:Brian - will take somebody with him to his grave if he is killed

Nighg 4: saldana - very hard to find information on him, mutant, he has visions at night that he has no control over, but they are very frequent

Night 5: GE - has been searching for Chaos for several years and has very good instincts to spot them

Night 6: Swaggs - he is somehow resistent to death, what it is and how it works remain a mystery

[GoldenEagle]

So we have 2 human seers (twothree and GE)? And you let us kill Mustang and Grey without saying anything. Gee thanks for the help.

I tried to prevent the killing of Grey. I never viewed Mustang and I was out that day any way. I think WW may not be for you.

[Blade6119]

Vote Swaggs

As far as Blade asking who I have investiaged:

Night 1: St. Cronin - important to the Golden Throne, Emperor may be in danger if he dies

Did you know he was human, or just not a chaos?

[Fouts]

I tried to prevent the killing of Grey. I never viewed Mustang and I was out that day any way. I think WW may not be for you.

I think you're right. If I had found out swaggs was chaos, I would have told somebody.

[Blade6119]

I think you're right. If I had found out swaggs was chaos, I would have told somebody.

I dont normally agree with fouts, not since he betrayed us in X-Com ;) , but i agree. I dont know how you find out hes a chaos on night 4 and wait until day 7 to tell us.

[kingfc22]

Did you know he was human, or just not a chaos?

The only time my investigation indicated an individual was human, chaos or mutant was when I scanned saldana. Other than that, I've only been told what their ability is.

[Blade6119]

Im out for until after the lynch...lets have fun seeing what tangle says about swaggs' non-death everyone claims is coming.

[GoldenEagle]

I dont normally agree with fouts, not since he betrayed us in X-Com ;) , but i agree. I dont know how you find out hes a chaos on night 4 and wait until day 7 to tell us.

I told everyone on Day 6 and again, I was not very useful for a couple of days there. Plus I wanted to see who he associated with.

If Swaggs takes me to the grave with him, remember what I said.

[Blade6119]

I told everyone on Day 6 and again, I was not very useful for a couple of days there. Plus I wanted to see who he associated with.

If Swaggs takes me to the grave with him, remember what I said.

If hes let you live this long, i doubt he will start worrying about you now. Obviously, as grey and i both thought, you were the key role this game. If he didnt take you on night 1, or shortly there after, he obviously doesnt see you as a threat. I will be guarding someone i think is a more likely target

[Swaggs]

I'd love to take you to the grave, but unfortunately I don't have any kills in night action.

I can't believe I was identified as chaos two days ago and it is just now coming out. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I feel better about Golden Eagle now that he has come clean.

King is telling the truth, although I'm not sure his orders are honest, since Mustang knew about me earlier.

[Chief Rum]

I can't wait to here what everyones' actual roles are. This game is messed up. Because I don't have time to consider unlikely conspiracy theories...

VOTE SWAGGS

[tanglewood]

Voting closed.

[tanglewood]

Final Vote Count Day 7

Swaggs 8 - Fouts, BrianD, GoldenEagle, saldana, kingfc, Chief Rum, Blade
GoldenEagle 1 - Swaggs

Write up coming.

[Chief Rum]

Odd how little action there is right now. I know a lot of people are simply dead, but still, this is an interesting lynch. I guess we will see shortly what the truth is (or maybe not, given how Mustang died...)

[Swaggs]

I'll still be here.

At least until tonight.

[tanglewood]

Today is a simple day compared to the rest, the unanimous opinion is that Swaggs should be the one exectued, despite his protests that he will survive anyway. He eventually has to cede to the wishes of his other council members and steps up to the executioner's plinth.

There are no protestations, no cries for help, merely an eeriy inevitablilty that sweeps across everyone in the room as Swaggs, almost totally relaxed, lies and awaits the executioner's power axe. But this time the swing is not swift nor clean, but merely thuds into Swaggs' neck, drawing blood but refusing to go deeper. After several hacks producing little more than a small splatter and some slight wincing from Swaggs he calls a halt to the farce, standing up and telling the executioner to cease. "I told you all that this would happen" he mutters in a irritated voice as he walks away from the council and heads to his chamber for the night.

But before he can make it out of the room a sinister rumble is heard from the adjacent Golden Throne. One of the operators slinks through the restricted bolted door and informs the council that it appears a section of the mechanism has failed. Not to worry he assures you, it can be fixed and shouldn't cause much distress any further. With that you all turn and exit the hall to retire for the night.

[saldana]

can we just run an accelerated day tomorrow if all us are gonna vote swaggs again?

[kingfc22]

can we just run an accelerated day tomorrow if all us are gonna vote swaggs again?

I agree.

[tanglewood]

Okay, tomorrow I am not quite sure if I will be able to get online at all, and the same goes for Friday too. The worst part is if I will not be able to be online I will not be able to tell anyone in advance. There are a few options here:

1. Take a break for a few days. Probably all the way until Monday.

2. Since what the council wants to do seems obvious, run an accelerated day NOW, then take a break.

3. I'll send all my info to another forum member who will be on standby incase I am not avaliable.

Any thoughts or other options?

Sorry to have to come to this situation. It was unexpected and I have really enjoyed GM'ing this game so far and would very much like to be there at the end myself.

[Blade6119]

GE, YOU HAVE TO SCAN KING TONIGHT...DO NOT WORRY ABOUT SWAGGS, hes dead tomorrow...scan the last unscanned person. If hes clean, then we start working our way back through conversions.

[saldana]

Okay, tomorrow I am not quite sure if I will be able to get online at all, and the same goes for Friday too. The worst part is if I will not be able to be online I will not be able to tell anyone in advance. There are a few options here:

1. Take a break for a few days. Probably all the way until Monday.

2. Since what the council wants to do seems obvious, run an accelerated day NOW, then take a break.

3. I'll send all my info to another forum member who will be on standby incase I am not avaliable.

Any thoughts or other options?

Sorry to have to come to this situation. It was unexpected and I have really enjoyed GM'ing this game so far and would very much like to be there at the end myself.

if enough people show up soon, my first choice would be #2, but since not alot of people seem to be around, perhaps 3 would be a better option...Alan helped St. Cronin out in a similar situation last game, but seeing how we may be close to the end, i wouldnt want you to give your game away and miss the end considering how much work you put into it.

[Blade6119]

Okay, tomorrow I am not quite sure if I will be able to get online at all, and the same goes for Friday too. The worst part is if I will not be able to be online I will not be able to tell anyone in advance. There are a few options here:

1. Take a break for a few days. Probably all the way until Monday.

2. Since what the council wants to do seems obvious, run an accelerated day NOW, then take a break.

3. I'll send all my info to another forum member who will be on standby incase I am not avaliable.

Any thoughts or other options?

Sorry to have to come to this situation. It was unexpected and I have really enjoyed GM'ing this game so far and would very much like to be there at the end myself.

If you have all night actions in(though id like GE to scan king, who im protecting, and king to scan GE), id say go ahead now. Were all going to vote him again id imagine...

[kingfc22]

If you have all night actions in(though id like GE to scan king, who im protecting, and king to scan GE), id say go ahead now. Were all going to vote him again id imagine...

I've already scanned GE.

[Blade6119]

I've already scanned GE.

Well then who are you going to scan tonight...tangle seems to hint that swaggs death doesnt mean end game, so someone who is clear is a bad guy(unless its you, oh last uncleared one). Im protecting you tonight becuase i think whoever else is bad will want you out of the way to prevent you scanning them. The fact i asked you to scan GE says what i think about him right now. Think hard, unless your evil, as you should be a cleared and safe man tomorrow with info to help us win this bad boy.

[Blade6119]

dola, or GE will scan you and you will be evil...that will also help us tomorrow...either way :)

[kingfc22]

dola, or GE will scan you and you will be evil...that will also help us tomorrow...either way :)

That will not be the case, but funny none the less.

[tanglewood]

Okay, Hoopsguy is the reserve GM. Please send any night actions to him in duplicate as well as me. If I can get online tommorow then he won't be needed and I'll resume. But if I haven't made a post by midday EST, then he is charge until further notice.

Any questions?

Good. FAAAAAAAL OUT!

Sorry, it just sounded a bit militaristic when I read it back.

[BrianD]

Is anyone else uncomfortable with the way the Swaggs thing went down tonight? If we couldn't get through his neck tonight, what makes us think we will be able to tomorrow night? I still trust Grey, and by extension, Mustang, but the results of tonight make me wonder about tomorrow's lynching. Have we been fooled? Do we give it one more lynching to see?

[Swaggs]

Is anyone else uncomfortable with the way the Swaggs thing went down tonight? If we couldn't get through his neck tonight, what makes us think we will be able to tomorrow night? I still trust Grey, and by extension, Mustang, but the results of tonight make me wonder about tomorrow's lynching. Have we been fooled? Do we give it one more lynching to see?

I was uncomfortable with it.

The emperor's throne is failing and you guys are going to waste another day trying to lynch me when I have told you all and king has confirmed that I can't die during the day.

I honestly do not believe that it is going to happen again tomorrow. I suspect that the emperor will be dead in a few more turns either way, so it probably doesn't matter anyway. I doubt we would be able to kill the chaos tomorrow, even if you all didn't vote for me.

[BrianD]

I was uncomfortable with it.

The emperor's throne is failing and you guys are going to waste another day trying to lynch me when I have told you all and king has confirmed that I can't die during the day.

I honestly do not believe that it is going to happen again tomorrow. I suspect that the emperor will be dead in a few more turns either way, so it probably doesn't matter anyway. I doubt we would be able to kill the chaos tomorrow, even if you all didn't vote for me.

King didn't quite confirm that.

[Mustang]

Is anyone else uncomfortable with the way the Swaggs thing went down tonight?

Nope, it is what you guys should have done several days ago.

Everything I've said has pretty much come true so..

At first, when I was told I was a chaos acolyte and I found a way to extend life by becoming a ghost, I was confused as hell as to why in the world I would become a ghost upon death.. if I was confirmed as chaos, what good would it be to be a ghost.. not a damn person would believe me. Well, guess I found out. Make me chaos, turn me to good, kill me after I say I was now good and then don't confirm what I am.

Tangle knew that I'd just say Swaggs was Chaos and half would believe me and the other half wouldn't so.. bravo to him for seeing this coming.

[Blade6119]

At first, when I was told I was a chaos acolyte and I found a way to extend life by becoming a ghost, I was confused as hell as to why in the world I would become a ghost upon death.. if I was confirmed as chaos, what good would it be to be a ghost.. not a damn person would believe me. Well, guess I found out. Make me chaos, turn me to good, kill me after I say I was now good and then don't confirm what I am.

Tangle knew that I'd just say Swaggs was Chaos and half would believe me and the other half wouldn't so.. bravo to him for seeing this coming.

Im willing to bet you found a way to be a ghost at least 1 night before you were converted good, and i highly doubt grey(who openly said he did something every night) was building up some conversion on you. So you were a ghost before tangle knew grey would visit. Either your lying, or drawing the wrong conclusions, as something in your story doesnt add up...

[BrianD]

Im willing to bet you found a way to be a ghost at least 1 night before you were converted good, and i highly doubt grey(who openly said he did something every night) was building up some conversion on you. So you were a ghost before tangle knew grey would visit. Either your lying, or drawing the wrong conclusions, as something in your story doesnt add up...

I think I read that differently than you did. It sounds to me like he always knew that he would become a ghost, but that it would be pointless since chances were good that he'd be identified as Chaos before becoming a ghost. Having everyone know that he was Chaos and a ghost would make him pretty useless. The fun part (if everyone is to be believed) is that many of the people that could identify him as being Chaos would also convert him from Chaos, making his status questionable and still an interesting part of the game.

[tanglewood]

Well, everything as turned out okay and I will be able to continue in my GM capacity. Thanks to Hoopsguy for standing by in any case. The results of the night are coming shortly.

[hoopsguy]

And I had a very sinister write-up prepared, full of mystery and intrigue. Oh well, another time :eek:;)

[Alan T]

Drats. I had just convinced Hoops to let me come back as Count Chocula too :(

[tanglewood]

You awake with fear and dread for what may come. It appears the health of the Emperor is of serious concern, alhough his closest servants would of course never utter such blasphemous thoughts, but for now it appears he is stable. Once again in the first meeting of the day it appears you are one short. Chief Rum is found lying in his bed in a most terrified pose, his leg ripped from his torso and his throat slashed wide open. Most noticabley however is his third eye protruting from the left side of his head. You wonder how he kept it s expertly hidden and some almst seems thankfull that the Chaos have destroyed such a desecration of a being.

[tanglewood]

Today's deadline is still 9PM EST, though if there is clear majority who want an accelerated day today, as some suggested last night, then that can be done.

[GoldenEagle]

I viewed king last night. I think he might have some sort of anti-seer speciality. Anyway, at the end of the night I had to concede that he was not chaos.

[GoldenEagle]

Dola,

Why did Swaggs and co. take out Chief Rum?

[BrianD]

I think I'm pretty much convinced to go with one my lynching of Swaggs to see prove once and for all which side Mustang was on. Anyone else have any different thoughts? GE, Saldana, either of you get any useful information last night?

[BrianD]

Dola,

Why did Swaggs and co. take out Chief Rum?

Did he have the ability to clone just one person, or could he have done more?

[GoldenEagle]

The only information I got was on kingfc.

So if we can not lynch Swaggs and our assassin is dead are we just screwed?

[Blade6119]

Did he have the ability to clone just one person, or could he have done more?

Should be one time...it took him 3 nights to clone me, i cant imagine he had another one coming.

Odd, i didnt have him pegged as a mutant. Thanks chaos i guess...

[Blade6119]

The only information I got was on kingfc.

So if we can not lynch Swaggs and our assassin is dead are we just screwed?

I think we have to try again today, but if we cant do it today then there is another route were missing.

Is it possible he cant be lynched until all of his acolytes are dead? Might be an option if there are 2 left.

[BrianD]

I think we have to try again today, but if we cant do it today then there is another route were missing.

Is it possible he cant be lynched until all of his acolytes are dead? Might be an option if there are 2 left.

I agree that we should lynch again today. If that doesn't work, I'm not really sure what we should do, but following Mustang and lynching Swaggs seems like the best option. At least that is one thing we know should work, and we can re-evaluate if it doesn't work.

[BrianD]

To make it official

Vote Swaggs

[Blade6119]

VOTE SWAGGS

[GoldenEagle]

<b>Vote Swaggs</b>

[Blade6119]

alright king, who did you scan?

[Blade6119]

I viewed king last night. I think he might have some sort of anti-seer speciality. Anyway, at the end of the night I had to concede that he was not chaos.

Did that not worry anyone else?

[kingfc22]

Vote SWAGGSI'm on my phone and can't bold this so I hope it counts.I scanned chief rum last night and he is what he said. He can clone someone.

[Blade6119]

Vote SWAGGSI'm on my phone and can't bold this so I hope it counts.I scanned chief rum last night and he is what he said. He can clone someone.

that was not a helpful scan...GE had just cleared him, i had just cleared him, and oh ya, hes dead..he was a mutant though, but overall your still my #2 behind swaggs right now...if he doesnt die today, im going to come after you

[Blade6119]

Dola, and can saldana tell us more about his visions lately...havent heared him help in awhile in that regard

[Fouts]

vote swaggs

I'm spent.

[Swaggs]

Vote King

[Swaggs]

What's the plan for the weekend?

[Blade6119]

What's the plan for the weekend?

Are you expecting to be around for it?

[saldana]

sorry to be away all day...in the middle of working another double shift and this is my first chance to really catch up.

i had no visions at all last night...i actually pm'ed tangle earlier in the day because i didnt even get a message, but last night, i saw nothing.

i havent really had anything revealing since the mustang vision, other than the fact that i saw GE each night during his viewing. sometimes i only saw him, sometimes i saw who he was looking at, sometimes both at once, which is how i was able to say yesterday that his list was the same as mine.

wish i had more today, but like i said, i didnt even get my special non game related vision last night ( ;) to tangle)

vote swaggs

[Blade6119]

sorry to be away all day...in the middle of working another double shift and this is my first chance to really catch up.

i had no visions at all last night...i actually pm'ed tangle earlier in the day because i didnt even get a message, but last night, i saw nothing.

i havent really had anything revealing since the mustang vision, other than the fact that i saw GE each night during his viewing. sometimes i only saw him, sometimes i saw who he was looking at, sometimes both at once, which is how i was able to say yesterday that his list was the same as mine.

wish i had more today, but like i said, i didnt even get my special non game related vision last night ( ;) to tangle)

vote swaggs
.....anyone else getting worried?

[saldana]

.....anyone else getting worried?

about what?

i have no control over my visions, so if you are inferring that i am intentionally not seeing anything, that is incorrect. if you are inferring that i am intentionally withholding anything, that too, is incorrect. if you are inferring that i am not still on the side of the Imperium, you would be once again, incorrect.


(see that blade, i preemptively called you a liar 3 times without actually calling you a liar :D )

[saldana]

(dola, or you actually lying ;))

[Blade6119]

about what?

i have no control over my visions, so if you are inferring that i am intentionally not seeing anything, that is incorrect. if you are inferring that i am intentionally withholding anything, that too, is incorrect. if you are inferring that i am not still on the side of the Imperium, you would be once again, incorrect.


(see that blade, i preemptively called you a liar 3 times without actually calling you a liar :D )

Im glad, last time when you did call me a liar quite a few times you were utterly and totally wrong. I have never thought you were a villager, always a mutant, but the fact you no longer claim visions worries me. You say you always saw GE's scans, but he claims he scanned last night...king now might have an anti-seer role, and he goes off and scans the one person that was most trusted to me.

A lot of pieces are just not adding up, or i should say, adding up for people to be good. This is one hell of a game, i am totally lost as to whats what anymore.

[Swaggs]

Are you expecting to be around for it?

Unless I get killed next night action.

[Blade6119]

Unless I get killed next night action.

So do you want to quickly rehash your role powers for me...just so i understand again.

[Swaggs]

I am genetically cursed and, therefore, am abnormal (I've volunteered this before it was confirmed). My night action is to research my curse. I found out that two roles could help me, if I survived to the end with them. Alan could cleanse my soul. Fouts' family has an artifact (later found out to be a spear) that can curb, but not cure, my curse. I cannot be killed during the daytime.

What else do you want to know?

[Swaggs]

and, it is my opinion that Mustang was on a team with someone that knew that I could not be killed. They got close to winning or figured out that killing st. cronin would eventually win the game for them, and decided to trick you guys into lynching me for two straight, wasted days.

[Blade6119]

I am genetically cursed and, therefore, am abnormal (I've volunteered this before it was confirmed). My night action is to research my curse. I found out that two roles could help me, if I survived to the end with them. Alan could cleanse my soul. Fouts' family has an artifact (later found out to be a spear) that can curb, but not cure, my curse. I cannot be killed during the daytime.

What else do you want to know?

So what have you done the past few nights, since all that info was from a few days ago

[saldana]

I am genetically cursed and, therefore, am abnormal (I've volunteered this before it was confirmed). My night action is to research my curse. I found out that two roles could help me, if I survived to the end with them. Alan could cleanse my soul. Fouts' family has an artifact (later found out to be a spear) that can curb, but not cure, my curse. I cannot be killed during the daytime.

What else do you want to know?

see, my problem with this role is.....how does it relate to the game...what do contribute to the imperium...as far as i can see, being able to research your family curse if pretty damn useless in the fight against the chaos...this role has no abilities, has no apparent purpose, and makes no contributions...considering that EVERYONE else has some sort of contributory role in this game, it just doesnt add up that yours is to basically spank it each night without doing anything for the team.

[Fouts]

and, it is my opinion that Mustang was on a team with someone that knew that I could not be killed. They got close to winning or figured out that killing st. cronin would eventually win the game for them, and decided to trick you guys into lynching me for two straight, wasted days.

Maybe now people will give me credit for picking bullet over st.cronin.

[Fouts]

I am genetically cursed and, therefore, am abnormal (I've volunteered this before it was confirmed). My night action is to research my curse. I found out that two roles could help me, if I survived to the end with them. Alan could cleanse my soul. Fouts' family has an artifact (later found out to be a spear) that can curb, but not cure, my curse. I cannot be killed during the daytime.

What else do you want to know?

I can't believe your story, because I know nothing about an artifact or spear.

[Swaggs]

see, my problem with this role is.....how does it relate to the game...what do contribute to the imperium...as far as i can see, being able to research your family curse if pretty damn useless in the fight against the chaos...this role has no abilities, has no apparent purpose, and makes no contributions...considering that EVERYONE else has some sort of contributory role in this game, it just doesnt add up that yours is to basically spank it each night without doing anything for the team.


I have the potential to be a swing player if Fouts and Alan die.

[Blade6119]

I have the potential to be a swing player if Fouts and Alan die.

So alan's dead..your telling us not to kill fouts or you go evil?

[Swaggs]

So alan's dead..your telling us not to kill fouts or you go evil?

The curse will take over, from what I can tell.

Also, from a gameplaying standpoint, I am a nightmare for seers b/c I am abnormal, yet a loyal human. A pretty nice little role (thanks Tangle ;) ).

[Swaggs]

If anyone else has anything for me, let me know soon. I'm going to be watching the Steelers in a bit.

Otherwise, I'll see you after the lynching. Hope my neck doesn't damage the executioner's axe. :)

[Swaggs]

I can't believe your story, because I know nothing about an artifact or spear.

It was in your ancestor's possession. Earlier, I thought you might have known about it, but I now think that it was just to give me a reason to try and keep you alive. Same with Alan being able to cleanse my soul.

[Blade6119]

Anyone else think we should kill fouts so we can kill swaggsy?

[Swaggs]

Anyone else think we should kill fouts so we can kill swaggsy?

It won't kill me. Just make me change alignments.

[Blade6119]

It won't kill me. Just make me change alignments.

If you go bad, you should lose your non-lynch status...i doubt highly we have invincible chaos...so either scenario should end with your death

[Swaggs]

If you go bad, you should lose your non-lynch status...i doubt highly we have invincible chaos...so either scenario should end with your death

Either way, I wish you guys would lynch someone else since this is a waste of time and the emperor is probably going to die while you guys lynch me again tomorrow.

[Swaggs]

Also, not invincible, just not susceptible to death during the daytime.

[Blade6119]

FINAL Day 4 Vote Count

bulletsponge 4 - Swaggs, GoldenEagle, Fouts, Kingfc
st.cronin 4 - BrianD, Mustang, Chief Rum, Greyroofoo
Greyroofoo 1 - twothree
Chief Rum 1 - st.cronin
BrianD 1 - AlanT
Fouts 1 - saldana
Swaggs 1 - bulletsponge

Write up coming.

So, instead of saving himself by voting for cronin, bullet voted for swaggs?


Anyone else think these two posts are quite interesting? It was swaggs, king, ge, and fouts(all 4 still alive, and all 4 making up my suspect list) who killed our assasin, and bullet would rather vote swaggs then save himself...quite interesting

[Swaggs]

Anyone else think these two posts are quite interesting? It was swaggs, king, ge, and fouts(all 4 still alive, and all 4 making up my suspect list) who killed our assasin, and bullet would rather vote swaggs then save himself...quite interesting

If Mustang and I were chaos, wouldn't we have been voting together?

[Swaggs]

Ah, nevermind that last comment, not really relevant, I guess.

[Blade6119]

If Mustang and I were chaos, wouldn't we have been voting together?

Either you kill the seer, or you kill the guy protecting the throne. Thats about as great of a scenario as i can imagine as a bad guy. I doubt you would team up there, but its interesting. BrianD being on cronin says a lot too...its just an interesting vote(the fact you were one of the key votes against me caught my eye, but not as much as this day)

[Swaggs]

Either you kill the seer, or you kill the guy protecting the throne. Thats about as great of a scenario as i can imagine as a bad guy. I doubt you would team up there, but its interesting. BrianD being on cronin says a lot too...its just an interesting vote(the fact you were one of the key votes against me caught my eye, but not as much as this day)

Oh well, it is what it is and if you are looking for things, there is plenty of unfavorable evidence against me.

You should check and see who all didn't vote for Anxiety, though.

[Swaggs]

Current Vote Count Day 3

Anxiety 11 - twothree, AlanT, BrianD, saldana, path12, kingfc22, Fouts, Mustang, st.cronin, Greyroofoo, Swaggs
twothree 2 - GoldenEagle, Anxiety
GoldenEagle 1 - bulletsponge

Yet To Vote: Chief Rum

Bump.

If you are looking at votes, isn't this more suspicious than anything I did?

[Blade6119]

Bump.

If you are looking at votes, isn't this more suspicious than anything I did?

Well bullets dead, anxiety is dead, and GE is one of my top 4(he also voted for bullet over cronin).

I dont see how 1 alive person is more suspicious, even though i asked king to scan him last night and he didnt.

The other reason i am somewhat trusting GE over you is despite what i said i would do, i protected GE(and meant to mislead everyone)..my bodyguards reported a nice and quiet nice(a night without incident). I assume after my night 1 protect, that if he went out i would know it. So since chief was killed, i assume it wasnt GE.

That makes me look closer at you

[Swaggs]

Oh well. I don't know what else to do to change things.

Hopefully you guys don't buy something different tomorrow and vote for me again.

I'm off to watch the Steelers. Have a good one.

[Blade6119]

Oh well. I don't know what else to do to change things.

Hopefully you guys don't buy something different tomorrow and vote for me again.

I'm off to watch the Steelers. Have a good one.

If you come up clean, King is my target with brian and fouts right with him...saldana is a mutant to me, despite his screwjob on me day 2...and GE, well i just said...

[saldana]

if this were any other game, i would say that a player that can never be lynched is impossible, especially since i would assume that the roles in this game were double random...i.e. we got our role drawn first, then our alignments drawn separately...if by chance the person with the cant be lynched role ended up being a chaos, that would basically guarantee a bad guy victory as soon as the assassin was dead...i cant imagine that tangle would allow that kind of mechanic to develop, but then again, i also couldnt imagine that there were reverse conversions, so WTF do i know.

[Blade6119]

if this were any other game, i would say that a player that can never be lynched is impossible, especially since i would assume that the roles in this game were double random...i.e. we got our role drawn first, then our alignments drawn separately...if by chance the person with the cant be lynched role ended up being a chaos, that would basically guarantee a bad guy victory as soon as the assassin was dead...i cant imagine that tangle would allow that kind of mechanic to develop, but then again, i also couldnt imagine that there were reverse conversions, so WTF do i know.

As one of the very few i trust, do you think we're being misled?

[saldana]

If you come up clean, King is my target with brian and fouts right with him...saldana is a mutant to me, despite his screwjob on me day 2...and GE, well i just said...

someone make a note of this, as this may be the first time blade and i agree about something. the only thing wrong with this statement is the part about me being a mutant....as i have said before, i am a psyker...all navigators are...that in the warhammer universe makes me a mutant, but for the purposes of this game, i am on the imperium team 100%

[Blade6119]

Before the lynch, i just wanted to note. Is it possible swaggs has a role similar to real-deal...real couldnt be night killed, maybe swaggs is good and cant be day killed...im just saying, everyone seems so sure, except me...i hope you are all right, but swaggs seems pretty cocky for a dying bad guy

[tanglewood]

Writeup just coming.

[saldana]

As one of the very few i trust, do you think we're being misled?

the thought has crossed my mind...the only thing that has me feeling like we are doing the right thing is the seemingly useless role that swaggs is claiming...although we dont know what realdeal's backstory to his role was because we killed him so fast....his may have been equally useless sounding.

[tanglewood]

The council are steadfast this time, the leave no doubt to the fact they they wish to attempt to execute Swaggs once again. He steps forward and decries your choice once again, questioning how him proving himself invulnerable a second time could hepl further the cause. But the other members are insistient and so he makes his way to the executioner a second time.

He lays his head on the plank just as before and just as before the power axe barely makes a scratch on his neck. The executioner, his prid now shattred after two failed executions starts aimlessly blidgeoning Swags but to no avail, it seems his blade just cannot penatrate. But then all of a sudden a slight flash of blade does make a small incision and a deep red glow fleetingly emits from Swaggs' eyes on contact. Before anyone has even picked up on this minor detail, GoldenEagle jumps to the table and pulls his dual laspistols and starts firing wildly at Swaggs, who sensing his time is up transmogrifies into the most terryfiying winged beast any of you have ever seen. He starts slashing and scything his way through the various coutiers and servants in his path as he heads for the Golden Throne room and starts attempting ot batter in the door, comfortably shrugging off the hail of lasfire aimed at him from all corners of the room. A sense of great panic spreads across those present as the Daemon beast appears ever closer to battering the door down with sheer brute strength when Fouts decides to take matters into his own hands. Grabbing a couple of frag grenades from Blade's belt he sprints towards the monstrosity. Swaggs notices him from the corner of his eye and wildy slashes his tail at him, but the agile Fouts jumps and ducks and weaves through the deranged attacks. But just as he is about to reach the Daemon, he is tripped by one of the splayed out power cords from all the carnage, lying at the mercy of Swaggs as he now full turns to tower directly over him. "I have waited for this moment a long time, puny human. Where is your Emperor to save you now!" But just as his huge claw plummets towards Fout's throat a scream comes from BrianD as he collapses to the floor, simultaneously Fouts flies across the room slamming into the wall as Swagg's huge claws drive directly into the reinforced concrete flooring of the chamber, anchoring him in plain view. "Now!" comes the call from Blade as the Imperial Guardsmen who had swared into the room pummel the creature with fire from every concievable direction. Swaggs writhes for a few seconds, unable to drag himself away from his trapped arm before taking the drastic measure of slicing his left arm off with his right. An almighty scream resonates for miles around and vile, purple Chaos bile spews across the room as the now fatally wounded Daemon struggles toward the window. But just as he is about to reach the opeing and thus his safety, GoldenEagle appears from noweher carrying a Power First taken from one of the dead Space Marines strewn across the room and, jumping on top of the Daemon itself, sends a harrowing blow right through the monsters cranium, shattering its skull in pieces. The Daemon finally collapses to the ground, GoldenEagle taking a comparitively serene slide down its tail and the remaining council members survey the wreckage.

Suffice to say that the High Lords will both need new appointes and to be housed elsewhere next cycle whilst the old chambers are 'refurbished' to put it lightly. But what of the current members? hough they have made mistakes history will not dwell upon those, but on their valour in protecting the Emperor right at his gate and their absolute dedication to his spirit and domain. And what of the mutant? He has performed his part here, and perhaps if all mutants are as capable and willing to serve the Emperor as BrianD has been , then perhaps the curret dogma will be revised. Who knows, only time will tell....

Chaos are defeated!

Mutants survive to end!

Imperium minor victory!

Roles and rules breakdown forthcoming.

[Blade6119]

bravo team, sorry i doubted any of you here at the end(well, i guess except for the mutants)

[twothree]

congrats to the mutants...nicely played...especially which ever mutant(s) managed to survive until the end.

[BrianD]

Did I do something good other than scream and fall down?

[BrianD]

congrats to the mutants...nicely played...especially which ever mutant(s) managed to survive until the end.

That would be me. :)

[saldana]

congrats to the mutants...nicely played...especially which ever mutant(s) managed to survive until the end.

brian was the mutant.

[Chief Rum]

Should I say who our last remaining mutant is? He was, indeed, the head mutant.

[Greyroofoo]

Bout time you guys killed swaggs

[saldana]

dola, good job to everyone...this was easily the most confusing game i have ever played in. thanks tanglewood for putting this together, i will be naming my first cerebral hemmorage after you.

[Chief Rum]

Should I say who our last remaining mutant is? He was, indeed, the head mutant.

Ah ha, no need.

All right, tangle, out with it! What the hell was really going on with all the seers?

And, BTW, nice play by Swaggs, who got done in by grey and Mustang, but created a lot of doubt with his "reveal".

[twothree]

brian was the mutant.

I still think your a mutant. ;)

[Mustang]

Should I say who our last remaining mutant is? He was, indeed, the head mutant.

No wonder Brian was pushing my story and seemed to be the only one that believed me in the beginning. He was the only one that would benefit if I was right or wrong.

[Chief Rum]

No wonder Brian was pushing my story and seemed to be the only one that believed me in the beginning. He was the only one that would benefit if I was right or wrong.

I bought your story right away, too, although Brian and I had the same motive. I wasn't thinking about that, though--I actually believed you.

[Mustang]

I thought I would be dead the first night. In 40K, the Dark Angels have a secret that they protect.. that some of their members embraced Chaos. They've spent the last 10K years chasing down 'The Fallen'. Anyone knew that background history, I bet I would have been lynched first just for the hell of it...

Guess I was along the right path when I said that Brian would be sympathetic to mutants given the 13th Company. :D I couldn't push that angle given the background of the Dark Angels.

[Greyroofoo]

Bravo on the good game tangle

[BrianD]

No wonder Brian was pushing my story and seemed to be the only one that believed me in the beginning. He was the only one that would benefit if I was right or wrong.

I really believed Grey in everything he said since he viewed me. Since he trusted you, I did as well. It also helped that I thought killing Swaggs would end the game and give us a mutant win.

[SirFozzie]

Shoulda known that you couldn't be a completely good guy, Wolfie Brian :)

[BrianD]

I should probably also mention that my role had me killing someone if I died. There was nothing about me killing my attackers, but I thought that extra bit would make people afraid to kill me.

[BrianD]

Shoulda known that you couldn't be a completely good guy, Wolfie Brian :)

I'm glad I didn't have to fight you for a whole weekend this time. :)

[saldana]

this was also easily my worst played game i have ever done. i did absolutely nothing to help my team..i guess this is how schmidty feels every game :eek:

[twothree]

So, I am guessing that it was swaggs who killed both mutants, path12 and chief rum?

[saldana]

So, I am guessing that it was swaggs who killed both mutants, path12 and chief rum?

usually, the GM will post a complete listing of everyone's roles and what happened each night...tangle is likely working on that right now.

[Chief Rum]

I really believed Grey in everything he said since he viewed me. Since he trusted you, I did as well. It also helped that I thought killing Swaggs would end the game and give us a mutant win.

Brian could communicate with me and path once via a night time telepathic message, and said he trusted grey. It was that one little message that led me to also put my faith in grey, which I did a number of times.

[Greyroofoo]

Hey Swaggs, just out of curiosity, what would've happened if Alan T or I had visited ya?

[Chief Rum]

So, I am guessing that it was swaggs who killed both mutants, path12 and chief rum?

That would be my guess. I wasn't sent a more in-depth PM regarding my death. First time I died in a WW game (third one), actually, and almost made it to the end here, too.

We all managed to avoid the lynch, but we couldn't avoid Swaggs.

[Alan T]

THanks for the game Tangle... I was really frustrated this game. I was all excited when I found out I was a seer, but then I realized by day 2 that I wasn't the only one based on what all happened on night 1. I then spent the next 3 days trying to figure out what was going on..

I was convinced I had an idea who the mutants were.. but in the end, I knew nothing hardly.

[Greyroofoo]

Brian could communicate with me and path once via a night time telepathic message, and said he trusted grey. It was that one little message that led me to also put my faith in grey, which I did a number of times.

I was wondering why you suddenly came to my defense :p

[path12]

Yay Mutants! *waves all three hands wildly in the air*

[tanglewood]

The Master of the Administratum - Fouts
Team: Imperium. Role: Broke ties. Did not have duke ability as I think most of you figured out by the end.

The Inquisitor General of Ordo Hereticus - SirFozzie
Team: Imperium. Role: Every night could scan a player. Recieved Mutant/not-Mutant feedback. Did not have to come into physical contact with player who was scanned at night, nor even have to leave their room, as skill was intuition based.

The Inquisitor General of Ordo Malleus - GoldenEagle
Team: Imperium. Role: As SirFozzie, only got Chaos/Non-Chaos feedback.

The Ecclesiarch of the Adeptus Ministorum - Greyroofoo
Team: Imperium. Role: Could visit a player every night and try to determine their 'faith in the emperor'. Had a 50/50 chance of converting a Chaos player back to the good if he found one (as happened with Mustang). A conversion failure would have resulted in his death. Of course, unbeknownst at the start, but worked out eventually, was that the Mutants are loyal to the Emperor too!

The Fabricator General of the Adeptus Mechanicus - st.cronin
Team: Imperium. BUT suceptible to be turned to Chaos (more on that later). Role: His death was effectively a game timer, with a bit of a twist. On night of death nothing happens, but then the next night there was a 20% chance of the Emperor dying, then 40% on N+2 and so on until N+5 when the Emperor was guarenteed to die.

The Grand Provost Marshal of the Adeptus Arbites - kingfc22
Team: Imperium. Role: Could determine player's roles and abilities via detective work and employing his contacts etc. but did not recieve their team affiliation.

The Paternoval Envoy of the Navigators - Saldana
Team: Imerium. Role: Every night had a chance of recieveing visions of other actions performed that night, a kind of mega-witness role. Probablilties were all diec based whic I'll explain later.

The Master of the Astronomican - twothree
Team: Imperium. Role: Every night could view a player using the Astronomican and recieved normal/abnormal feedback, i.e. Imperial/not-Imperial.

The Grand Master of the Officio Assassinorum - bulletsponge
Team: Imerium BUT suceptible. Role:OMG BULLET YOU HAD SUCH AN AWESOMELY COOL ROLE WHY DIDN'T YOU USE IT YOU FOOL. You have no idea how dissapointed I was that firstly you seemed so reluctant to do anything then that you got lynched on the day you said you might do something that night. The assasin role deserves it's own expanded explaination so I'll get to this later.

The Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica - Anxiety
Team: CHAOS ACOLYTE. Role: Soothsayer, could test one statement every three days based on whether who said it believed it to be true or not. I'll add more on the Chaos dynamics later.

The Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodes - path12
Team: Mutant. Role: Locks up to two people up every night. When in the cell they could only interact physically with each other, though players who had psychic abilities would have been unrestricted.

The Prince-Primate of the Holy Synod - AlanT
Team: Imperium. Role: Also went out testing people's faith. However, if AlanT ever found a Chaos guy he was toast, automatic death. But what he could do that Greyroofoo couldn't was convince those who were wavering i.e. suceptible to conversion (specifically, bulletsponge and st.cronin) to reject any dalliance with Chaos at all thus make them unavaliable for conversion.

The Lord Commander Millitant of the Imperial Guard - Blade
Team: Imperium. Role: Sent out bodyguards to protect a player at night. The bodyguards would be able to be overruled by the Ecclesiarch, but not by he Prince-Primate (i.e. Grey could get through but not AlanT).

Primarch of the Space Wolves - BrianD
Team: Mutant. Leader Role: Would kill another player when killed himself. If lynched it would have been a random person who voted for him that day. If killed at night would have been a random player who happened to be taking a night action that period. As Mutant he was not informed from the start who the other Mutants were, but could 'broadcast' a psychic message every night ot help coordinate their actions. It was quite amusing for me to see BrianD devise codewords for the Mutants to drop in conversation so they could discuss the game openly without the other players realising what was happening.

Primarch of the Ultramarines - Chief Rum
Team: Mutant. Role: Could clone a dead player over three nights and they would be restored with the same abilites and alligeiance they had from the start.

Primarch of the Dark Angels - Mustang
Team: Chaos Acolyte. Role: When died would become a ghost and not have his team affiliation revealed. Worked out rather beautifully in the end, one of many happy coincidences from my point of view that just added up to make it all even crazier.

Primarch of the Blood Angels - Swaggs
Team: CHAOS DAEMON LORD. Role: Needed to be killed twice, any combination of lynches or night kills valid, just needed to be killed twice to die. Quite a handy attribute for the Chaos Lord to randomly receive.

Primarch of the Black Templars - Real Deal
Team: Imperium. Role: Invulnerable at night, which did him a fat lot of good in the end.

Coming up some more on the Chaos roles and night actions and how Saldana recieved his visions.

[tanglewood]

Oh and in case you were wondering.

Roles were slotted to the council positions prior to play. Those of you who tought that the roles were faily easy to surmise based on some digging on WH40k were correct, it was a fairly open game. If the good guys just trusted all the information that was coming out they could have easily won on day 3 or 4, but then I knew that this is WW and that would never ever happen. Although i really had NO idea what you were thinknig lynching Greyroofoo, that jkust seemed silly to me. But then its easy for me o say that with all the information! :)

So the roles were slotted, then the players slotted to the roles, then the teams were slotted to the players. There could have been some really nasty situations occuring for the good guys, such a Chaos guy in charge of the jail, or being the bodyguard or one of the inquisitors or even worse a Chaos guy could have got saldana's witness role.

[SirFozzie]

I'm glad I didn't have to fight you for a whole weekend this time. :)


I have a feeling I was targeted early by Chaos for that reason.. I pretty much laid my role out there, and explained to our hidden bad guys that I couldn't find them and hoped they'd go elsewhere..

Either they didn't believe me or didn't care :)