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Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 11:45 AM
I had the same problem. Try the other 08 file and see if that works for you.
Logan
11-12-2006, 11:53 AM
I had the same problem. Try the other 08 file and see if that works for you.
Tried the first FA week 6 file, and got the same result.
Something tells me I wasn't destined to be an active participant.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 11:56 AM
If it's a yahoo problem, maybe try downloading from here:
http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/QuikSand/faweek6tryagain.zip
Logan
11-12-2006, 12:03 PM
If it's a yahoo problem, maybe try downloading from here:
http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/QuikSand/faweek6tryagain.zip
Still no dice. Don't worry about it guys...if I can figure it out, I'll start joining in. But please use your time to keep everything going...don't want to be the cause of anything getting held up.
I'd hate to pass up the opportunity for adding a participant.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 12:15 PM
Maybe try downloading the first file from teh new year, and then the latest one. Perhaps there's some udpated file stuck in the former that we need? *shurg*
Logan
11-12-2006, 12:25 PM
Maybe try downloading the first file from teh new year, and then the latest one. Perhaps there's some udpated file stuck in the former that we need? *shurg*
Bingo. I started with the "start 2008" file (which worked) and then downloaded everything following.
I'll spend some time familiarizing myself with the team and the draft eligibles and start giving some thoughts. Thanks again.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 12:28 PM
Great. We'll keep that in mind when we start next season - maybe we'll need to post a "get caught up" file at the start of every year.
thealmighty
11-12-2006, 12:33 PM
I don't have any idea what you mean by this -- are you being excluded somehow?
You must have missed my first post, QS. I just am unable to access the thread in the dynasty section. I am assuming, rightly or not, that it is because of the amount of stuff in it since it is the only thread on the whole forum that messes me up (whenever I tried to view, it froze my internet totally).
Don't have the game; not getting it. Was just following along and couldn't get in the other thread and was wondering if all the posting in this forum was because others had troubles too. No biggie...not excluded, just can't see the results in the other thread.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 12:34 PM
My rankings, for our team, at the top of the draft -- going 8 deep:
DT Wendell Szymanski
CB Ike Forbes
DE Steven Foster
RB Mario Marroso
WR Burt Ballard
S Jason Davidson
CB Grant Hoover
T Bucky Newhart
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 12:37 PM
You must have missed my first post, QS. I just am unable to access the thread in the dynasty section. I am assuming, rightly or not, that it is because of the amount of stuff in it since it is the only thread on the whole forum that messes me up (whenever I tried to view, it froze my internet totally).
Don't have the game; not getting it. Was just following along and couldn't get in the other thread and was wondering if all the posting in this forum was because others had troubles too. No biggie...not excluded, just can't see the results in the other thread.
Gotcha, sorry - I had read only part of that original message. The only easy way I can find to post the box scores is by posting the html page istelf, which is a resourve hog I'm sure, and the source of your problems over there. If we put it all into one big thread, I suspect that would crash you out of the whole thing. *shurg*
Logan
11-12-2006, 01:01 PM
My rankings, for our team, at the top of the draft -- going 8 deep:
DT Wendell Szymanski
CB Ike Forbes
DE Steven Foster
RB Mario Marroso
WR Burt Ballard
S Jason Davidson
CB Grant Hoover
T Bucky Newhart
I haven't had much success with drafting CBs early in round 1. I don't know if that's a universal problem, but I don't think I've developed any stud CBs within the first 10 or so picks. I'd say about 50% of the time they become average starters, 40% of the time they remain nickel/dime backs, and the other 10% they bust.
That said, I obviously agree that the DT is the one for us. I don't think SF takes him at 1.1. As Quik said, they took a NT last season, and have nothing at QB. The top-ranked QB doesn't look like a franchise QB (by our scout's eyes), but he is certainly better than what they have. I wouldn't have a problem with trading up to 1.1 just to be assured of the DT, but having 3 picks in the top 35 would be nice for our roster make-up.
I like that RB a lot. 69% developed is the 3rd highest for non-K/Ps, and he is a much better prospect than the 2 guys more developed than he is. I would guess he wouldn't be available at 1.8, but I have heard others say that the guys who don't participate in workouts tend to slip. Maybe that helps us here. Same situation for the DE Foster.
I'd be curious to see what it would cost to move up to 1.6 from the 8th slot if Marroso is still there. Tennessee has their 2nd listed need of a starting RB, so I don't think he would get past them.
My Big Board:
DT Szymanski
RB Marroso
DE Foster
T Newhart
S Davidson
WR Ballard
CB Forbes
CB Hoover
G Pascal
Haven't heard Pascal's name mentioned yet (I believe). Looks like G is a potential upgrade spot. I don't think I would take him at 1.8, but could be an interesting guy if we traded down.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 01:02 PM
QB Stan Tellez seems worth an interview, good skills match. Maybe Bruce Carter.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 01:07 PM
Interviews Needed:
DE Dux
DE Lopes
DT Kinchen
OLB Meynardie
LCB Butts
More interview suggestions:
C Yeung
RB Liao (could skip this one, I don't think he'll last until the 2nd)
CB Sumpter
FL Briggs (curious)
For reference... i'm planning to finish the interviews and start the draft shortly.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 01:24 PM
I would be willing to trade up to get Marroso. I really think Syzmanski and Marroso could be lynchpins on opposite sides of the ball for years. I think if Marroso slips to 4 or 5 it would be woth the effort to get him.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 01:27 PM
So, I conducted interviews with everyone who had been named, plus a few more throw-ins. DE Brant Lopes was probably the most noatble - he looks very good by the ratings, came in as "very underrated" and now probably cracks my Top 8 thinking.
Into the draft...
1. San Francisco - Downs, Colin, QB, Mississippi State
So, we are on the clock, and it sure sounds like we want the DT. I decide to take him, and see where things go from here.
2. Texarkana - Szymanski, Wendell, DT, Purdue
3. New Orleans - Marroso, Mario, RB, Nebraska
4. New Jersey - McCormick, Alan, QB, Pittsburgh
5. Chicago - Hoover, Grant, CB, New Mexico
6. Tennessee - Murray, Drew, RB, Luther
7. San Francisco - Forbes, Ike, CB, Morehead State
So, the picks in between don't really mess us up a lot - I liked CB Forbes a lot, and we had mentioned RB Marroso, but we still have several quality targets still around.
I'll send a new file, but I think this is breaking pretty well for us.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 01:29 PM
I would be willing to trade up to get Marroso. I really think Syzmanski and Marroso could be lynchpins on opposite sides of the ball for years. I think if Marroso slips to 4 or 5 it would be woth the effort to get him.
He was the one guy I would have stopped the draft for, if he slipped to about 5.
Narcizo
11-12-2006, 01:33 PM
I'm glad my cunning use of bold paid dividends.
Szymanski will definitely reach 1.2, I say take him there and, perhaps, see about trading 1.8.
Random players I think will boom. I guarantee that they will all scout as overrated or very overrated. However, I'm starting to think that a "very over-rated" scout report is actually a good thing.
SE Craig Crowher
RG Roger McCalla
DE Vince Zirn
CB Brad Small
FS Chester Sander (Total stud - unfortunately also a conflict. Damn Geminis!)
Logan
11-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Well we should definitely be happy with the DT. Marroso would've been icing on the cake.
If we went DE Foster here, we would (hopefully) be starting 3 new linemen with our FA addition. I personally wouldn't mind, but does anyone have a problem with that?
Along with Foster, I really like the T, Newhart and the G, Pascal.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Well I advocate Ballard at this point. I think we desperately needed a DT and am happy with Syzmanski. My reservation about foster is simple: He skipped the combine and I worry about him busting. I worry about Newhart because of our scout only being fair at linemen.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 01:40 PM
I have DE Foster atop my list of BPA, but that's mitigated by my newfound affection for DE Lopes, who might even slip to us in round two. I have no problem with all new starters on the DL at all, incidentally - it's not like we have many good options from among our returning players the most viable returning starter is DT Bobo, who just aw us invest a top pick in a stud player at his position. We still could switch Bobo to play DE, I suppose.
Anyway... this pick seems worthholding open for debate. I might be leaning toward WR Ballard, since I like him a lot more than anyone else at the position, and feel WR is a serious need position for us. Dunno how far we might trade down and still be able to get him, though. I think I'd rather have picks at 1.15 and 1.25 than the 1.8 and 2.3 that we actually have.
Logan
11-12-2006, 01:48 PM
You guys are right...Ballard seems like a good pick, especially considering the lack of talent on the roster. If he's the guy we want, I would be careful about trying to trade down and still get him. I count 8 teams (including us) who have a starting WR identified as a need, and with the amount of trading that seems to take place among the AI, I wouldn't be surprised if someone jumped up once or twice for WRs.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 01:52 PM
One plan, if we wanted ballard, would be to trade down a few picks to someplace like #15... but if the top WR got taken, we'd deal back up to get Ballard with the next pick. That's assuming that Ballardd wouldn't be the top WR taken, which is not necessarily safe.
If we want to move down to #15, Washington will send us 1.15 and 2.14 for 1.8 and 4th round pick. That doesn't sound too bad to me.
Just to put it into the mix.
Logan
11-12-2006, 01:56 PM
One plan, if we wanted ballard, would be to trade down a few picks to someplace like #15... but if the top WR got taken, we'd deal back up to get Ballard with the next pick. That's assuming that Ballardd wouldn't be the top WR taken, which is not necessarily safe.
If we want to move down to #15, Washington will send us 1.15 and 2.14 for 1.8 and 4th round pick. That doesn't sound too bad to me.
Just to put it into the mix.
I would probably sign up for that deal, and I had thought of your "plan" as well. I see a lot of talent on the offensive side of the ball in this draft, and having 1.15, 2.3, and 2.14 would go far in helping us.
Narcizo
11-12-2006, 02:02 PM
Markiewicz is idolised? I think I'm going to be as taken with him as QS is with Spearman. 34 potential now? The guy is just rocketing up.
I really like the look of Liao here. He's listed "as scouted" and his combine looks really good. I think the only thing that was holding him back was his lowish development. Looks very good for passing schemes as well. I think short passes and screens can work as long as you have a great guy catching the ball. I think Liao could be that guy. I guess you can argue about whether RB is really a need at this stage of the draft, and overall I'd probably be more inclined to trade down, even though I don't think he'll make it down to 1.15.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 02:06 PM
WRs always seem to go quicker than I expect. IT was true in 2k4 and is true in this version as well. I haven't looked as deeply at Lopes so I can't comment. However, while none of our positions are so set that we couldn't have more help, I would rather try and balance out our selections on offense and defense rather than focusing so heavily, as we have, on the defensive side with our draft picks.
Narcizo
11-12-2006, 02:06 PM
I'm having difficulty getting to grips with the love for Ballard though. Isn't Norbert Kelly better for us, given his affinity and slightly better combines.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 02:07 PM
One plan, if we wanted ballard, would be to trade down a few picks to someplace like #15... but if the top WR got taken, we'd deal back up to get Ballard with the next pick. That's assuming that Ballardd wouldn't be the top WR taken, which is not necessarily safe.
If we want to move down to #15, Washington will send us 1.15 and 2.14 for 1.8 and 4th round pick. That doesn't sound too bad to me.
Just to put it into the mix.
What about 12 or 13. I think that would be safer, what kind of deal can be done for there? The Washington one is a good deal though.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 02:07 PM
If RB Liao were maxed out in getting downfield, then I might be open to spending a top pick on him. But as it is, he looks to me like a solid back, but not an ideal fit for this offense -- he looks to me like he'll turn out to be a pretty decent straight ahead runner, and he'll get a lot of passes his way, and won't do a whole lot with them. Not the perfect system fit for this team, seems to me.
If we decided to go with him, I wouldn't be too uspet, though. I'd be thrilled to see him slip to our second round pick, though I agree it's fairly unlikely.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 02:10 PM
I'm having difficulty getting to grips with the love for Ballard though. Isn't Norbert Kelly better for us, given his affinity and slightly better combines.
I'm just worried about Kelly never developing much in getting downfield, which I think is an essential rating for this offense. I like Kelly too, nominally, but I'm worried that he might never turn out to be a very good player for the short-passing system we are trying to run.
I (we?) also don't seem to be on your wavelength regarding the overrated/underrated tags -- care to elaborate more there?
Narcizo
11-12-2006, 02:12 PM
No I wasn't 100% sold on Liao. Basically I think I favour a wait and see policy here. There's no real player who grabs my interest and says "pick me" so sliding down the draft a bit seems to make sense in those circumstances.
Narcizo
11-12-2006, 02:17 PM
I (we?) also don't seem to be on your wavelength regarding the overrated/underrated tags -- care to elaborate more there?
At the moment I think it seems that the scout looks at a player's currently scouted rating in context of their draft grade and decides if they scouted rating matches the draft grade. Great combines push players' draft grade up and, it seems to me, that the scout compares the scouted rating (say 20-34 or something) to the draft grade and says "over-rated". However it's those very combine scores that means that the player is likely to boom afterwards. It seems that any player without a good combine in relation to their draft position busts to some extent afterwards.
It's a bit of a sketchy theory at the moment and requires much more time than I can currently provide to investigate but look at Spearman - he was over-rated, while Bobo was, allegedly, very underrated. It seems to add up.
To be honest I hope that this isn't the case, as it seems a bit too simplistic. I would hope that the scout would, at least, take combine scores and whatnot into consideration, and if he was very good actually see the players "real" potential rather than the sham "scouted" potential.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 02:17 PM
Well already I've learned about what the Getting Downfield rating. I always assumed that to be about the ability to create seperation on long throws, not about run after the catch.
Narcizo
11-12-2006, 02:21 PM
Having said all that, I really like the look of Bucky Newhart. If we hadn't used our first round pick on a tackle last year and were I sold on offensive tackles as a cost-efficient position (I think they're probably the most over-valued in FOF) I'd say draft him and play him at RT. (not switch though).
Of course, what we really should do is draft JB Dux. Think of the "Mighty Dux" merchandising potential.
Anyway. Must go. I'll be back tomorrow to see how we got on.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 02:32 PM
At the moment I think it seems that the scout looks at a player's currently scouted rating in context of their draft grade and decides if they scouted rating matches the draft grade. Great combines push players' draft grade up and, it seems to me, that the scout compares the scouted rating (say 20-34 or something) to the draft grade and says "over-rated". However it's those very combine scores that means that the player is likely to boom afterwards. It seems that any player without a good combine in relation to their draft position busts to some extent afterwards.
It's a bit of a sketchy theory at the moment and requires much more time than I can currently provide to investigate but look at Spearman - he was over-rated, while Bobo was, allegedly, very underrated. It seems to add up.
To be honest I hope that this isn't the case, as it seems a bit too simplistic. I would hope that the scout would, at least, take combine scores and whatnot into consideration, and if he was very good actually see the players "real" potential rather than the sham "scouted" potential.
How does this theory square with the current list at OG, for instance?
We interviewed top-rated G Leach, and found him overrated, despite him having very modest projections for his various skill ratings. And the second guy, Pascal, has very good rating projections, but got tagged as underrated.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 02:43 PM
Well presumably the scout is saying that the player is underated by other scouts but the bars given are what the scout feels are the true projections?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 02:45 PM
I don't think the blue bars are a product of our own scout, I think the are the same from the eyes of everyone, a sort of composite. May be wrong there, though.
As somebody that like Lopes as well, I think Ballard is the choice unless we want to try the trade down gambit.
I kind of like Liao but only if he slips to round 2 which I doubt.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 02:55 PM
I don't think the blue bars are a product of our own scout, I think the are the same from the eyes of everyone, a sort of composite. May be wrong there, though.
I'm talking post interview bars.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 02:57 PM
Okay, we deal with the Redskins, and drop to 1.15... and in the draft, we see:
8. Washington - Newhart, Bucky, T, Notre Dame
9. Kansas City - Binkow, Ted, WR, Notre Dame
Okay, decision time. We still have WR Ballard, DE Foster, and RB Liao all available - but Ballard is now the top WR remaining, and might go at any time, I suppose. Keep waiting, or trade up to get him?
My sense is that we want him, but not so badly as to trade back up to get him. Anyone so sold that he's a "must have" for us at this point?
Actually, Davison is starting to really interest me.
I think we wait it out where we're at. We have enough options that I think we'd be happy with.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 03:07 PM
Well, Davison here or soon would be an impact addition to our secondary, whether we kept him at S or tried him at CB (my preference). I like him a lot, too, and as far as "system" goes he's an ideal pick - great skills, very good combine, interview rates him underrated, and he's an affinity. I'm thinking he is there at 15, too.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 03:10 PM
10. Oakland - Hopkins, Brenden, CB, Dartmouth
11. Pittsburgh - Davison, Jason, S, Florida State
12. Seattle - Linnebur, Karl, OLB, Virginia
13. St. Louis - Stephenson, Frank, T, St. Peter's, NJ.
14. Buffalo - Foster, Steven, DE, California
With both DE Foster and WR Ballard still there all the way, I figured we'd be happy with either one at 15. Foster goes at 14... so we take WR Ballard here, I presume? After that, is there anyone we want to move up to get? RB Liao? Anyone else worth stopping for at some point?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 03:15 PM
Side note... LB Kenyon Horn looks like he's switch effectively to DE, where he might be an impact-caliber player. Just FYI... dunno when he might be worth a real look, but in round two perhaps he's still there?
Disappointed in missing Davison but I'm happy to still get Ballard. I definitely like him better than RB here.
Liao is the only player I'd consider moving up for. Personally, I think RBs have such short careers that I'd rather build our team a little more before investing heavily in one.
Side note... LB Kenyon Horn looks like he's switch effectively to DE, where he might be an impact-caliber player. Just FYI... dunno when he might be worth a real look, but in round two perhaps he's still there?
Good thought. I was thinking Lopes in the 2nd, but Horn may translate into a better player than Lopes anyway.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 03:19 PM
First look on the roster: DT Szymanski rates 61/84
(but he still shows up as 51% developed... something's odd there, as noted before I think)
Dola, OLB Zimmerman could translate to DE well too and he has an affinity to boot. Between the two, I like Zimmerman a bit more.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 03:20 PM
Well I'm thinking Ballard is the way to go.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 03:21 PM
First look on the roster: DT Szymanski rates 61/84
(but he still shows up as 51% developed... something's odd there, as noted before I think)
Presumably there is some scout error which perhaps includes how developed they really are?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 03:23 PM
Okay... we take Ballard, and we'll watch as our next pick approaches...
15. Texarkana - Ballard, Burt, WR, Kansas
16. Miami - Sawyer, Lawrence, CB, Iowa
17. San Diego - Jasso, Kevin, QB, Kentucky
18. Green Bay - Liddell, Adrian, TE, North Carolina State
19. Jacksonville - Kaplan, Kurt, RB, Purdue
20. Detroit - Jessie, Duane, T, North Carolina State
21. Minnesota - Durham, Matthew, OLB, Arkansas
22. Cleveland - Yeung, Norbert, C, Michigan State
23. Baltimore - Lucas, Roger, TE, Syracuse
24. Indianapolis - Meynardie, Dominic, OLB, Tuskegee
25. Tampa Bay - Liao, Bobby, RB, Pittsburgh
26. Chicago - Milkovits, Brant, DT, Kansas State
27. Philadelphia - Mimick, Winston, QB, Wake Forest
28. Arizona - Armstrong, Jose, DT, Iowa
29. Atlanta - Reynolds, Myron, RB, Southern California
30. Minnesota - Woo, Justin, TE, Drake
31. Carolina - Horn, Kenyon, OLB, Texas A&M
32. New England - Daniels, Irv, S, Utah State
33. San Francisco - Krieger, Darryl, CB, Syracuse
34. New Orleans - Fletcher, Casey, DT, Georgia
RB Liao went just as I was starting to think about stopping for him. LB Horn also got taken, but DE Lopes is still there. That's the guy I think I like here, but now seems like a good time to stop a bit, and take it all in. I will sent a new file momentarily.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 03:27 PM
Gee, I wish we had interviewed RT Randall Ferguson, but I think the 7% developes scared me off. On a team like ours, though, maybe we could afford to wait him out - we have a T mentor and this guy could definitely start for us.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 03:29 PM
Dola, OLB Zimmerman could translate to DE well too and he has an affinity to boot. Between the two, I like Zimmerman a bit more.
Very attractive here, to me. Combine supports most of those bars, too. Lopes might even keep falling, as DE isn't depleted - we could help this position a lot if we got them both with these two second rounders.
I like Zimmerman here myself. Not as strong on the combine as Horn was but is more developed and it is a bit more geared to pash rush than Horn as well.
I do like Lopes, but I think Zimmerman is the better player. Zimmerman is also an affinity.
Gee, I wish we had interviewed RT Randall Ferguson, but I think the 7% developes scared me off. On a team like ours, though, maybe we could afford to wait him out - we have a T mentor and this guy could definitely start for us.
Shurg, I don't see any compelling reason not to like George Ferguson better than Randall.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 03:34 PM
Don't be fooled by him. I drafted a guy almost just like him in my solo career. I even started him all season since I had NOBODY else at T except a horrible vet as a mentor. The guy fully developed in one season to like 40 runblock 25 passblock. It was awful.
Edit to clarify, I mean don't be fooled by Ferguson.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 03:38 PM
I am at work and so without file. We have an LB mentor right? Also I'm far more amenable to taking a flier on a lineman here. While the 7% is low we're not expecting much this season from people anyway and so I would entirely be willing to take a flier on Ferguson.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 03:40 PM
Anyone check out CB Bates? He looks pretty good, but we didn't interview him. Pretty highly developed too. Also high in PSpec and dash.
On Zimmerman, I like him a LOT as a DE conversion, I've had a lot of success with guys like that. In fact, one thing I do a bunch in 3rd-5th rounds is sort ILB and OLB by height/weight and look for the best pass rushers. My only reservation on him is his stamina.
I am at work and so without file. We have an LB mentor right? Also I'm far more amenable to taking a flier on a lineman here. While the 7% is low we're not expecting much this season from people anyway and so I would entirely be willing to take a flier on Ferguson.
Shurg, he doesn't have a spectacular workout. We didn't interview him. He's not an affinity. He's not even the top OT named Ferguson on the board.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 03:45 PM
Another thought, anyone like G Pascal? He looks very tempting here as well.
edited for the wrong player.
Anyone check out CB Bates? He looks pretty good, but we didn't interview him. Pretty highly developed too. Also high in PSpec and dash.
I think Bates is worthy of consideration. I still like Zimmerman better myself, but I think Bates is a solid pick.
Another thought, anyone like G Pascal? He looks very tempting here as well.
edited for the wrong player.
I like Pascal quite a bit as well. I have him in mind for our other 2nd rounder.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 03:54 PM
The only reservation have with Bates is that I've been burned twice so far in two picks right about here in my solo career on similar CBs. Both busted horribly.
The main resrevation with Zimmerman is that endurance. Is he going to be on the field enough?
Tasan
11-12-2006, 03:55 PM
dola
Looking at the other guards left, I'd bet Pascal is the next G taken in the draft.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:16 PM
I know I need to recalibrate my expectations a bit for FOF 2007, but I just don't see anything in CB Bates. No reason I can see to think his ratings will exceed the projections (not a single excellent comine result) so what are we looking at there -- a guy with something like 45-50 potential in most of the stuff that counts? What's that worth?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:20 PM
This might be our biggest draft-day logjam yet. I'm hearing a decent case for:
SLB Zimmerman (presumably move to DE)
G Pascal
DE Lopes
CB Bates
T Forguson / T Ferguson
...and WR Norbert Kelly is still sitting out there as well.
I hope that we can land two of these guys with our picks at 2.3 and 2.14 -- does having two picks coming up make us adjust in any particular fashion?
I know I need to recalibrate my expectations a bit for FOF 2007, but I just don't see anything in CB Bates. No reason I can see to think his ratings will exceed the projections (not a single excellent comine result) so what are we looking at there -- a guy with something like 45-50 potential in most of the stuff that counts? What's that worth?
I think their worth is after they've hit those 45-50. Making them the types of players we're better off getting in FA than in the draft. Good reality check.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:22 PM
If we could be assured of it working out, I'd be thrilled with TRO's plan of taking Zimmerman and Pascal with these picks.
I hope that we can land two of these guys with our picks at 2.3 and 2.14 -- does having two picks coming up make us adjust in any particular fashion?
Since Zimmerman and Lopes fill the same need, I suppose the economical call is to go for somebody like Pascal and hope one or both of the "DE"s make it to 14.
From a BPA perspective, I think Zimmerman is the pick, hands down.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:24 PM
Since Zimmerman and Lopes fill the same need, I suppose the economical call is to go for somebody like Pascal and hope one or both of the "DE"s make it to 14.
From a BPA perspective, I think Zimmerman is the pick, hands down.
That's exactly where I am, too.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 04:25 PM
I think their worth is after they've hit those 45-50. Making them the types of players we're better off getting in FA than in the draft. Good reality check.
Yeah you're probably right. If this guy had some return capabilities, I'd say go for him, but without, he probably won't be that great.
My top two, in order.
G Pascal
OLB Zimmerman (to DE)
Tasan
11-12-2006, 04:26 PM
I like Lopes, but he's the kind that will probably be there at least at 2.15.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 04:29 PM
If we go with Pascal, we need to find him a mentor.
Another consideration. We have already invested 3 top picks in our front 7 on defense and 1 top pick on our OL. Do we draft to solidify our likely biggest strength or spread the wealth?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Okay, here's how things unfold from here...
35. Texarkana - Zimmerman, Amos, OLB, East New Mexico
36. Chicago - Wages, Lamont, RB, Georgia Tech
37. New Jersey - Fitzgerald, Rex, S, Clemson
38. Cincinnati - Bates, Randall, CB, Duke
39. Tennessee - Sebastian, J.B., OLB, Clemson
40. Kansas City - Kelly, Norbert, WR, Vanderbilt
41. Oakland - Brister, Deron, RB, Washington
42. Pittsburgh - Tapscott, Aaron, DT, West Virginia
43. Seattle - Jamieson, Bo, S, Ohio
44. Philadelphia - Croom, Bob, DE, Georgia
45. Denver - Caldwell, T.J., T, Louisiana - Monroe
46. Texarkana - Pascal, Marco, G, Texas A&M
47. Buffalo - Forguson, George, T, California
48. San Diego - Flynn, Cory, CB, Southern California
49. Miami - Bauer, Roderick, RB, Notre Dame
50. San Francisco - Gonzalez, Kirk, WR, Iowa
51. Green Bay - O'Donnell, Jon, OLB, Montana State
52. Green Bay - Osborne, Lester, S, Ohio
53. Detroit - Leach, Blake, G, Georgia Tech
54. Baltimore - Mitchell, Amos, T, Georgia
55. Indianapolis - Cobb, Harris, WR, Fairfield
56. Cleveland - Goodwin, Todd, ILB, Arizona
57. New York - Ferguson, Randall, T, Jackson State
58. St. Louis - Charneski, Rickey, T, UCLA
59. Arizona - King, Ronnie, WR, Drake
60. Atlanta - Kinchen, Quinn, DT, Connecticut
61. Tampa Bay - Wooden, Steven, DE, Virginia Tech
62. Minnesota - Gillespie, Blaine, CB, Notre Dame
63. Carolina - McCalla, Roger, G, San Jose State
64. New England - Solwold, Brady, G, Iowa
65. Jacksonville - Evans, Kim, OLB, Harvard
So, we get our perfect scenario to unfold for us. Zimmerman comes aboard at 34/60, and the scout says he'll switch to LDE at 93% -- after the switch, he grades out at 35/67, and looks very solid. G Pascal grades at 33/73 at his natural RG position - but I'm thinking we could move him to play at LG, and try to create a primary focus for our running game between him and our stud LT.
Looking good... new file coming.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 04:38 PM
Yes, my plan has worked, we now have an Aggie on the team!!!
Whoop!
ANYWAY, good job getting both those guys, especially since the 2nd OLB left went right after our pick.
Lopes fell to the 3rd. Finish off our DL?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:43 PM
I have no idea how far he might fall, but QB Tellez is underrated, and is a pretty strong skills match for this offense. I don't see taking him now, but maybe in round five, our next pick?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:44 PM
C Frankie DiMillo is heavy enough to play any OL slot, I suspect. Getting interesting at this point - maybe to move him to G?
RT Gillespie and CB Harrison are also worth considering.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 04:46 PM
Hmm, I'd hesitate to take ANOTHER DL, since we can probably move Bobo to DE.
Hmm, well maybe not, I just checked and Bobo will only keep 84% of his ratings and take a significant experience drop moving to RDE. Rats. I still don't think we need to make another investment in the d line though. Ideas?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:46 PM
I ment to interview S Deion Steidl, but forgot. Great blues. Little more.
C Frankie DiMillo is heavy enough to play any OL slot, I suspect. Getting interesting at this point - maybe to move him to G?
Probably could switch but I'm not excited about the idea here.
RG Baker could be a very nice pass blocker.
I have no idea how far he might fall, but QB Tellez is underrated, and is a pretty strong skills match for this offense. I don't see taking him now, but maybe in round five, our next pick?
I don't want to get into a QB Carousel and would certainly love to land a top flight QB soon. But Telez looks like a nice fit. 5th round would be worth considering.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:50 PM
I think I need to be talked out of just taking DE Lopes here. Sevral other guys look passable, but if he lives up to billing he's a long term asset at a very tough position to fill. We'd have four playable young guys at DT/DE, and would be able to focus elsewhere. I don't see anyone else who looks like anything much more than a marginal improvement over what we'll see after the draft.
I'm in eenie meenie mode.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Hang on let me grab the new file.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 04:53 PM
I agree: We need to pick a QB pretty soon to start build cohesion, I feel.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 04:54 PM
I guess if RT Gillespie pans out, he could be a long term starter also.
I think I need to be talked out of just taking DE Lopes here. Sevral other guys look passable, but if he lives up to billing he's a long term asset at a very tough position to fill. We'd have four playable young guys at DT/DE, and would be able to focus elsewhere. I don't see anyone else who looks like anything much more than a marginal improvement over what we'll see after the draft.
We've certainly been talking about him as long as anybody. I think if there is a voice for anybody else, we should listen.
Lopes is low developed and didn't really impress in many drills. I think we're going off which bars are blue and his very underrated tag.
Shurg, I'm not sure what to do here.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 04:57 PM
Anyone care anything about TE Jerry McDaniel? He's got off the chart getting downfield, which may work real well for our west coast O.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 05:00 PM
Since we already have a very promising young TE lodged behind one or two quality veterans, I haven't even looked at the TE position, and would be hard pressed to draft one who was anything but a huge standout. I really see Johnnie Lang as a long term starter for us.
Wild tangent - Punter Jackie Rawson?
Tasan
11-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Ugh okay, didn't realize we were stacked at TE. Nevermind. I do think the DE is the best player out there right now.
As far as Gillespie is concerned, those low strength OL tend to not perform up to their blocking ratings from my experience.
And I do like the QB, if he's there at 5 take him.
Anyone care anything about TE Jerry McDaniel? He's got off the chart getting downfield, which may work real well for our west coast O.
I admit that like Quik, I've barely looked here as well. McDaniel does look nice however.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Wild tangent - Punter Jackie Rawson?
Hrm not at 3. In fact the only kicking positions players I like drafting are guys that look like they'll be maxed out in everything. Otherwise just pick up an undrafted on, esp. punters, who tend to not get drafted at all.
Shurg, in this version, I see most of the better ones getting drafted in the 3/4 area of the draft. We did pick up a nice undrafted K last year though.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 05:14 PM
Who are we thinking about here?
I think Lopes is probably our guy. I just can't make the case for anybody else.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 05:20 PM
Someone want to make quik happy and do this?
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 05:23 PM
Lopes seems like a good choice. Are we willing to sim through to the 5th or do we think trading up to the 4th or even 3rd to grab a QB makes sense?
While I like Tellez some, I don't see him as somebody to trade up for. My want board depleted pretty quickly actually.
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 05:37 PM
Ok. So I went ahead and took Lopes. I will upload a new file shortly.
66. Texarkana - Lopes, Brant, DE, North Carolina State
67. New Orleans - Ellison, Russell, DT, UAB
68. New Jersey - Weidman, Myron, DE, Central Arkansas
69. San Francisco - Buzzanca, Elmer, DE, Syracuse
70. St. Louis - McDaniel, Jerry, TE, Elon College
71. Cincinnati - Royster, Adam, RB, San Jose State
72. Oakland - Henry, Lamont, OLB, South Carolina St.
73. Pittsburgh - Baker, Warren, G, Washington State
74. Seattle - DiMillo, Frankie, C, Texas - El Paso
75. Philadelphia - Dux, J.B., DE, Wagner
76. Denver - Boyer, Percy, RB, Clemson
77. Kansas City - Sinclair, Scott, DE, Syracuse
78. Buffalo - Gillespie, Darryl, T, Arizona
79. Washington - Stokes, Dana, CB, Southern California
80. Miami - Schmaltz, Anton, S, New Mexico
81. San Diego - Dunlap, Roy, DE, Notre Dame
82. Green Bay - McClary, Rich, RB, North Carolina
83. Jacksonville - Butts, Steve, CB, Virginia
84. Detroit - Buning, Andre, CB, Fordham
85. Dallas - Nixon, Quinn, WR, Lafayette
86. Indianapolis - Van Pelt, Dean, WR, Baylor
87. Cleveland - Edwards, Darren, WR, Northwestern
88. Baltimore - Herndon, Wesley, T, Washington State
89. Tennessee - Forrester, D.J., G, Florida A&M
90. Arizona - Kaplan, Marty, RB, Tennessee Tech
91. Atlanta - Reynolds, Vincent, CB, New Haven
92. Tampa Bay - Famie, Jared, ILB, East Carolina
93. New York - Harrison, Austin, CB, Hawaii
94. Minnesota - Humphries, Hugh, ILB, Washington State
95. Carolina - Dumont, Joey, G, Minnesota
96. New England - Norton, Hardy, ILB, Oklahoma State
97. Chicago - Lyle, Carl, DE, Southern California
98. New Orleans - Lighthiser, D.J., WR, Eastern Tenn. St.
99. Washington - Rawson, Jackie, P, Tennessee
100. Chicago - Porter, Jackie, DE, Arizona State
101. New Jersey - Pianigiani, Teddy, ILB, Notre Dame
102. Cincinnati - Myers, Leo, TE, Charleston Southern
103. San Francisco - Humphrey, Austin, RB, Baylor
104. Pittsburgh - Sawyer, Nicky, G, Louisiana - Monroe
105. Seattle - Branton, J.T., FB, Stanford
106. Philadelphia - Ranney, Kurt, TE, Maryland
107. Denver - Thomas, J.B., G, Iowa State
108. Kansas City - Small, Gary, RB, Temple
109. Oakland - Bell, Danny, OLB, Louisiana Tech
110. Washington - Anderson, Louis, TE, Purdue
111. Buffalo - Erdrich, Roger, TE, Tennessee
112. San Diego - McIntyre, Neal, G, Baylor
113. St. Louis - Anderson, Thomas, CB, Slippery Rock
Barkeep49
11-12-2006, 05:42 PM
Ok new file should be uploaded.
I think the S that Quik mentioned is stiller there. So is Tellez our QB.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 05:47 PM
The QB may drop some more since none were taken since our last pick. Is there anyone else that looks decent here?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 05:47 PM
I think the S that Quik mentioned is stiller there. So is Tellez our QB. I think I'd like to take them in that order.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 05:52 PM
Names from the well-developed sort:
CB Harris Britz
FB Justin Campana
DT Jessie barton
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 05:53 PM
T Leland Lincoln is the strongest player left at any position **by far** and is an affinity guy.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 05:55 PM
S Ray Ford had the highest skills test for any non-QB, and a goos INT rating too.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 05:57 PM
CB Todd Warhurst had one exceptional combine result (ST) and has a few measurable skills. Maybe another Spearman type creeper?
Logan
11-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Just commenting that I'm really glad Pascal was picked up. I liked him a lot when we were looking at 1st rounders, and he's a great value where we got him.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 06:02 PM
Does Louis Phipps look interesting to anyone else. Pretty decent combine numbers but not showing a ton in his bars. Anyway, not someone for now, but if he slips some more,maybe. Or on second thought maybe for now.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 06:06 PM
Edited for double post. Sorry about that, wireless was nutting out.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 06:10 PM
Argh I lost the last part of my post though...
Anyone like the looks of RB Graham Terry? decent combines and some bars in the right places too.
Oh an Phipps is an OLB.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 06:33 PM
Sort the entie remaining draft class by 40 time, get past all the traditional speed psitions, and one of the remaining top guys is... QB Bruce Carter. Combine backs up his elusiveness - he's be a running threat. And he's the top QB left, so we have less shot to get him later. *shurg*
Names from the well-developed sort:
CB Harris Britz
FB Justin Campana
DT Jessie barton
Britz looks interesting. We're still trying to figure out what coverages we want to run of course...
Campan, eh, don't want him hogging the attempts.
Barton, doesn't do much for me and I think we're ok on the DL for now.
S Ray Ford had the highest skills test for any non-QB, and a goos INT rating too.
Interesting debate to be had between Ford and your earlier guy, Steidl. I like Steidl better for where his bars poing and his better development percentage. But Ford is the better combine guy.
Does Louis Phipps look interesting to anyone else. Pretty decent combine numbers but not showing a ton in his bars. Anyway, not someone for now, but if he slips some more,maybe. Or on second thought maybe for now.
Aside from his PSpec, what combine #s are standing out to you? I might be missing something.
Sort the entie remaining draft class by 40 time, get past all the traditional speed psitions, and one of the remaining top guys is... QB Bruce Carter. Combine backs up his elusiveness - he's be a running threat. And he's the top QB left, so we have less shot to get him later. *shurg*
Can't get me too excited about somebody whose Accuracy is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I think Tellez is the guy here. The guy is a West Coast QB, let's go ahead and grab him.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Can't get me too excited about somebody whose Accuracy is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Good point. I have had success with guys like him, but in this system, accuracy is probably as important as any QB rating.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:16 PM
Okay... let's roll it:
130. Texarkana - Tellez, Stan, QB, Utah
131. New Orleans - Garner, Clay, FB, North Carolina State
132. New Jersey - Campana, Justin, FB, St. Mary's, Cal.
133. Chicago - Coffey, Jeff, P, William & Mary
134. Tennessee - Whitfield, Jumbo, P, Indiana
135. Cincinnati - Talley, Doug, FB, Missouri
136. San Francisco - Clark, Darrin, DT, Harvard
137. St. Louis - Davison, Emmanuel, P, Southern California
138. Denver - Daum, Bryce, DT, Michigan State
139. Kansas City - Jaime, Terrell, ILB, Alabama
140. Oakland - Ellis, Buddy, ILB, Texas
141. Pittsburgh - Mims, Don, DT, Boston College
142. Buffalo - Carter, Bruce, QB, Youngstown State
143. Washington - Barton, Jessie, DT, Clemson
144. Miami - Moschetti, J.J., P, Wisconsin
145. San Diego - Talbert, Jeff, DE, South Carolina
146. Green Bay - Stone, Rondell, CB, North Carolina State
147. Jacksonville - Jennings, Marshall, DT, Michigan
148. Detroit - Browning, Oscar, DT, Maryland
149. Philadelphia - Wilkins, Reggie, P, Arizona
150. Baltimore - Phipps, Louie, OLB, Penn State
151. Indianapolis - Stargell, Junior, DE, North Carolina State
152. Cleveland - McDonald, Alfred, OLB, Cal. - Northridge
153. Atlanta - Patton, Claude, QB, California
154. Tampa Bay - Rice, Bob, G, Hawaii
155. Philadelphia - Ford, Broderick, DT, Tennessee Tech
156. Miami - Kinard, Alfred, DE, Oregon
157. Arizona - Wilkerson, Jerry, DE, Southern California
158. Minnesota - Buzzanca, Jerome, QB, Florida
159. Carolina - Warhurst, Todd, CB, Texas - El Paso
160. New England - Daniels, Devin, QB, Rice
161. Seattle - Covington, Oliver, G, Texas Tech
162. New Orleans - Beltramini, Burt, QB, Ohio
163. Texarkana - Steidl, Deion, S, UCLA
164. Chicago - Ford, Oscar, T, Notre Dame
165. New Jersey - Boccaccio, Russell, DT, Oklahoma
166. Cincinnati - Donlon, Henry, DE, South Dakota State
167. Tennessee - Howe, Larry, T, Virginia Tech
168. Philadelphia - Reilly, Emmitt, S, West Texas A&M
169. Denver - Wallace, Charlie, ILB, Louisiana-Lafayette
170. Kansas City - Cosgrove, Daryl, S, Stephen F. Austin
171. Oakland - Lincoln, Leland, T, Jacksonville State
172. Pittsburgh - Whalen, Darrin, ILB, N. Mexico Highlands
173. San Francisco - Foley, Alan, WR, Vanderbilt
174. Washington - McKnight, Derrick, DE, Duke
175. Buffalo - Garcia, Terrell, DT, Rice
176. San Diego - Manning, Horace, DT, Arizona
177. Miami - Buchanan, Aaron, T, Wake Forest
178. Jacksonville - Wild, A.J., DE, Wake Forest
179. Green Bay - Dennis, Mo, CB, St. Norbert
180. Dallas - Ingraham, Craig, CB, William & Mary
181. Detroit - Katzman, Buddy, ILB, Iowa State
182. Indianapolis - Enis, Jon, T, Oklahoma
183. Cleveland - Veal, Cris, OLB, Marshall
184. Baltimore - Bailey, Tommie, DE, Utah
185. Tampa Bay - Fairbanks, Shaun, CB, Kansas
186. Jacksonville - McCollam, Dominic, DT, North Carolina
187. Philadelphia - Britz, Harris, CB, Miami, Florida
188. Arizona - Marsh, Randall, C, Notre Dame
189. Atlanta - Longoria, Josh, DT, Wake Forest
190. Minnesota - Roberson, Tyrone, S, Kentucky
191. Carolina - Harvey, Nate, OLB, California
192. New England - Hargett, Oliver, OLB, Tennessee Tech
193. Jacksonville - Tynes, Graham, G, Stephen F. Austin
We get the QB and S who each look fairly promising. And many of our targeted players are still on the board for us, as well.
Need a new file, or can we just do the seventh rounder and advance to the post-draft rookiefest?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:22 PM
Several guys mentioned earlier are still around -- S Ford, RB Terry, at least.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:25 PM
How about RT Jason Hindman - primarily a pass protector, affinity, well developed?
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:27 PM
My inclination is probably just to take RB Terry, and wrap things up. There's a lot more to talk about in late free agency, anyway, and nearly all these players are going to be available for us at that point regardless.
Was hoping to land Warhurst in the 6th, alas he didn't make it there anyhow.
I'm good with anybody in the 7th really.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:29 PM
194. Texarkana - Terry, Graham, RB, Alabama
195. New Orleans - Johnston, Kenny, OLB, Auburn
196. New Jersey - Singh, Ellis, DT, Michigan
197. Chicago - Frady, Louis, QB, Michigan
198. Tennessee - Sheldon, Antonio, CB, Northwestern
199. Cincinnati - Coleman, Victor, G, Northern Iowa
200. Denver - Garcia, Jason, CB, UCLA
201. Kansas City - Graham, Dan, CB, Brown
202. Oakland - Richard, Van, S, North Carolina State
203. Pittsburgh - Gaylor, Deion, RB, Maryland
204. Seattle - Lester, Marquette, CB, Wisconsin
205. Philadelphia - Boehner, Irv, G, Bethune Cookman
206. Buffalo - Shields, Rico, ILB, Texas Christian
207. Washington - Mueller, Bobby, T, Arkansas
208. Miami - Kinney, Bubba, OLB, Oregon State
209. San Diego - Tennant, Stephen, ILB, Washington State
210. Green Bay - Preston, Kirk, QB, Kansas State
211. Jacksonville - Reuter, Kelvin, T, Eastern Michigan
212. Detroit - Nichols, Lonnie, OLB, Alabama
213. San Francisco - Walton, Mario, S, Air Force
214. Cleveland - Paulk, Ted, RB, Oregon State
215. Baltimore - Webster, Cris, ILB, Pittsburgh
216. Indianapolis - Donnell, Ernie, RB, Duke
217. New York - Battle, Spencer, C, Virginia
218. Miami - Wayt, Ernie, QB, Arkansas
219. Arizona - Ellison, Junior, OLB, East Carolina
220. Atlanta - Bush, Arnold, WR, Arizona State
221. Tampa Bay - Mathes, Bernie, CB, Missouri
222. Minnesota - Horton, J.B., RB, Colorado State
223. Carolina - Parente, Rex, S, Maryland
224. New England - Anderson, Arnold, G, Michigan
File on its way momentarily.
I do like Hindman as a Rookie FA pick up.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:42 PM
Veteran Holdout:
From: Rufus Pinero
I have decided to hold out until I receive a new contract.
I believe I made a huge difference on defense last season. I believe I'm very seriously underpaid, and will not report to camp without a new contract.
Pinero is our mentor so I'm tempted to try to make him happy. Hmm.
Unless we make some cuts, we only have room for 1 FA signing (8 draftees to sign and the space created by IR'ing Booker)
Some VERY good early signs out of the draft too. Very encouraging.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:49 PM
In addition to adding players, a few things to consider:
-Mentor at DE? our young guys will probably see plenty of playing time, and there's no veteran mentor out there who looks really good... so this might be a dead rosters spot if we dedicate to it. Closse call, in my book.
-Who should be slotted where at WR? Obviously we want to get Ballard in to start right away -- where should we slot him, and who ought to play across from him, and as our 3rd receiver. These jobs look wide open to me.
-Any thoughts on CBs and coverage schemes? Where do we want to give Steidl a look? Scout says he'd switch to LCB at 93%, with roughly the same experience. He's solid in run support, so he could play either safety spot as well -- and we have nobody of consequence there now. But the older guys at CB are clearly just stopgaps anyway. We have mentors at CB, not S.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 07:51 PM
Pinero is our mentor so I'm tempted to try to make him happy. Hmm.
Unless we make some cuts, we only have room for 1 FA signing (8 draftees to sign and the space created by IR'ing Booker)
Agreed.
I'm sensing some veteran cuts in our near future. I'd rather have an untested rookie than several of these space-filler veterans who aren't good enough to help us win now, and aren't good enough to stay around long term. I say we go young.
We can probably cut QB Mathews at this point. Don't see a future for him as our 5th QB.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 07:58 PM
Could we take a flyer on MLB Ricky Crumley? I know he'll probably lose a bunch of potential, but it might be worth a try.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 08:00 PM
Also, I think we should get a Mentor for guards. With that young, low developed guy we have we could really stand one.
In addition to adding players, a few things to consider:
-Mentor at DE? our young guys will probably see plenty of playing time, and there's no veteran mentor out there who looks really good... so this might be a dead rosters spot if we dedicate to it. Closse call, in my book.
If we can find a spot for a mentor, I'd be for it.
-Who should be slotted where at WR? Obviously we want to get Ballard in to start right away -- where should we slot him, and who ought to play across from him, and as our 3rd receiver. These jobs look wide open to me.
I'd like to continue with Hall. Markiewicz was brought in to be a 3rd Wideout, let's run with that.
-Any thoughts on CBs and coverage schemes? Where do we want to give Steidl a look? Scout says he'd switch to LCB at 93%, with roughly the same experience. He's solid in run support, so he could play either safety spot as well -- and we have nobody of consequence there now. But the older guys at CB are clearly just stopgaps anyway. We have mentors at CB, not S.
I kind of like Steidl to stay at Strong Safety. He looks like he'll end up being useful there but at 93%, he's a bit more borderline as a CB (still better than we have of course).
As for scheme, dissapointing that Steidl is empty on Zone and Wolfe is really only strong in Zone.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 08:22 PM
I think we need to sign one of these three G mentors, and cut Max Jackson.
Yardley
Herr
Bridges
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 08:22 PM
Steidl and Spearman are both weakest in zone. Maybe we can go with a coverage scheme split between bump and loose man for this season. Gerak has to stay, he's the group leader (and he fits that scheme also) but that would let us get rid of Rogers and maybe Schiller, and give the playing time to younger players:
CB Gerak, Spearman, Schiller?, Dole
S Steidl, Clements, Wolfe, Dawkins
Of course, we don't yet know what Steidl is going to look like after camp - this is sort of presuming that he is going to come through camp looking like a real player. No lock tere at all.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 08:24 PM
I think we need to sign one of these three G mentors, and cut Max Jackson.
Yardley
Herr
Bridges
Offer in to Yardley.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 08:36 PM
Could we take a flyer on MLB Ricky Crumley? I know he'll probably lose a bunch of potential, but it might be worth a try.
Offer in, too good to pass up, I agree.
QuikSand
11-12-2006, 08:47 PM
We probably need to settle our situation at FB and TE, also. Starting Holmes at FB gave him a *lot* of targets last year, and they wer unproductive targets. Having Lang mostly sitting on the bench is compromising the player here who actually has potential to be with us a long time.
I'd support starting Lang at TE, and Foreman at FB, with Diaz as the backup TE, and Holmes either cut or traded away.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 08:51 PM
Okay one more and then I'll stop (I tend to go nuts with these guys in my solo games)
FS Winston Curtin might be worth a sign. I love that run stopping in the safety.
Tasan
11-12-2006, 08:52 PM
Dola
His experience chart says that he might be better at SS.
Narcizo
11-13-2006, 01:39 AM
Looks like a great draft class.
I like Lang as much as the next man but I think you can't ignore Diaz. His route running is poor but his potential has been on the increase since last year, while Lang's has dropped a bit. I really can't see any reason to prefer Lang over Diaz other than as a project to try and get a starter from an undrafted rookie.
Rickey Crumley is sooo not going to live up to his scouted potential but might be worth taking into training camp anyway. Even if he only turns out to be in the 40 class he's still a steal for an undrafted rookie. Other than him I really can't see anyone to get excited about in fre agency.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 07:51 AM
I like Lang as much as the next man but I think you can't ignore Diaz. His route running is poor but his potential has been on the increase since last year, while Lang's has dropped a bit. I really can't see any reason to prefer Lang over Diaz other than as a project to try and get a starter from an undrafted rookie.
Hmmm... for the period they have been opn the team, here's what I see in these two guys' future potential ratings:
Diaz - 60- 59 - 63 - 63 - 62 - 62
Lang - 47 - 52 - 52 - 52 - 51 - 51
So, in last year's training camp Lang had a breakout, and then was relegated to backup duty behind Diaz, frustrating his development. Diaz did have a solid season, and did get a mid-season buymp in his ratings, that is definitely true. The -1 from Lang in the offseason might be troubling, I suppose -- maybe we do need to see how training camp treats these two.
It's a nice worry to have, a debate between two promising and pretty young players. We don't have a lot of those debates on this roster yet.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 08:02 AM
I have signed all the speculative URFAs mentioned, and made a few fringe cuts to get us back down to 60 active players for camp. I made a few position switches, including moving WR Ballard to play out at split end, a position we can hope he will own for a decade. I left rookie SS Steidl at strong safety, and moved our current SS starter Wolfe over to FS - so we'll likely have two rookies battling it out for SS playing time. I didn't offer a new contract to LB Rufus Pinero - figured we'd wait and see if he makes it through camp okay before ponying up the big dough.
Camp results and new file forthcoming...
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 08:07 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">Texarkana Armadillos Player Report</td> </tr> <tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">(GT2008c-precamp - GT2008d-postcamp)</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td class="headr">Name</td><td class="headr">Pos</td><td class="headr">GT2008c-precamp Current</td><td class="headr">GT2008c-precamp Future</td><td class="headr">GT2008d-postcamp Current</td><td class="headr">GT2008d-postcamp Future</td><td class="headr">Overall Current Change</td><td class="headr">Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Howard</td><td>QB</td><td>22</td><td>27</td><td>23 (1)</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schultz, Leslie</td><td>QB</td><td>16</td><td>31</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>30 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Tellez, Stan</td><td>QB</td><td>12</td><td>61</td><td>12 (0)</td><td>52 (-9)</td><td>0</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Waite, Hugh</td><td>QB</td><td>14</td><td>47</td><td>14 (0)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Aranda, Marc</td><td>RB</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Garland, Marlon</td><td>RB</td><td>24</td><td>25</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Greene, Anthony</td><td>RB</td><td>32</td><td>46</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>46 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Marlin, Norm</td><td>RB</td><td>24</td><td>43</td><td>23 (-1)</td><td>39 (-4)</td><td>-1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Terry, Graham</td><td>RB</td><td>31</td><td>43</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>42 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Foreman, Zack</td><td>FB</td><td>24</td><td>42</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>43 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>McDaniel, Phillip</td><td>FB</td><td>15</td><td>34</td><td>16 (1)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Diaz, Eric</td><td>TE</td><td>62</td><td>62</td><td>61 (-1)</td><td>61 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Holmes, Harvey</td><td>TE</td><td>56</td><td>64</td><td>58 (2)</td><td>65 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lang, Johnnie</td><td>TE</td><td>34</td><td>51</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cushing, Roosevelt</td><td>FL</td><td>26</td><td>43</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>44 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Fabbrizzi, Dennis</td><td>FL</td><td>15</td><td>30</td><td>15 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Kramer, Frankie</td><td>FL</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>26 (-7)</td><td>26 (-7)</td><td>-7</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Markiewicz, Artie</td><td>FL</td><td>18</td><td>34</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ballard, Burt</td><td>SE</td><td>36</td><td>66</td><td>39 (3)</td><td>61 (-5)</td><td>3</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hall, Daniel</td><td>SE</td><td>28</td><td>31</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Woodson, Grady</td><td>SE</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>24 (-5)</td><td>24 (-5)</td><td>-5</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pascal, Marco</td><td>LG</td><td>33</td><td>73</td><td>37 (4)</td><td>70 (-3)</td><td>4</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wallace, Bert</td><td>LG</td><td>12</td><td>56</td><td>13 (1)</td><td>52 (-4)</td><td>1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Warren, Tarlos</td><td>LG</td><td>21</td><td>41</td><td>20 (-1)</td><td>36 (-5)</td><td>-1</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Yardley, Carlton</td><td>LG</td><td>18</td><td>39</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>38 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Aiston, Sherman</td><td>RG</td><td>36</td><td>45</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (-9)</td><td>0</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bickler, Jonathan</td><td>LT</td><td>57</td><td>84</td><td>56 (-1)</td><td>84 (0)</td><td>-1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wilkins, Kyle</td><td>LT</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>29 (-5)</td><td>29 (-5)</td><td>-5</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cote, Bruce</td><td>RT</td><td>12</td><td>12</td><td>11 (-1)</td><td>11 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>DeLamielleure, Kent</td><td>RT</td><td>29</td><td>34</td><td>32 (3)</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>3</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hindman, Jason</td><td>RT</td><td>19</td><td>32</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>31 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Whiting, Neil</td><td>K</td><td>47</td><td>56</td><td>52 (5)</td><td>55 (-1)</td><td>5</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ludwig, Billy</td><td>P</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Abrams, Terry</td><td>LDE</td><td>22</td><td>34</td><td>22 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Tyler, Rusty</td><td>LDE</td><td>16</td><td>26</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Zimmerman, Amos</td><td>LDE</td><td>35</td><td>67</td><td>33 (-2)</td><td>63 (-4)</td><td>-2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bobo, Artie</td><td>NT</td><td>24</td><td>43</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>25 (-18)</td><td>1</td><td>-18</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Corwin</td><td>NT</td><td>44</td><td>44</td><td>41 (-3)</td><td>41 (-3)</td><td>-3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Forbes, Julio</td><td>NT</td><td>31</td><td>31</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Szymanski, Wendell</td><td>NT</td><td>61</td><td>84</td><td>33 (-28)</td><td>52 (-32)</td><td>-28</td><td>-32</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Altuna, Albert</td><td>RDE</td><td>48</td><td>48</td><td>40 (-8)</td><td>40 (-8)</td><td>-8</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lopes, Brant</td><td>RDE</td><td>17</td><td>65</td><td>21 (4)</td><td>61 (-4)</td><td>4</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Abrams, Shaun</td><td>SLB</td><td>18</td><td>34</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Crumley, Rickey</td><td>SILB</td><td>22</td><td>61</td><td>24 (2)</td><td>54 (-7)</td><td>2</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Knoll, Leland</td><td>SILB</td><td>21</td><td>36</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>35 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Polko, Kevin</td><td>SILB</td><td>32</td><td>39</td><td>34 (2)</td><td>38 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dux, Brett</td><td>WILB</td><td>36</td><td>59</td><td>38 (2)</td><td>59 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Samuels, Lamont</td><td>WILB</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td>41 (-1)</td><td>41 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Belanger, Grady</td><td>WLB</td><td>38</td><td>39</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>34 (-5)</td><td>-4</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pinero, Rufus</td><td>WLB</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Gerak, Howie</td><td>LCB</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>38 (-3)</td><td>38 (-3)</td><td>-3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hickman, Carlos</td><td>LCB</td><td>19</td><td>37</td><td>19 (0)</td><td>34 (-3)</td><td>0</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Rogers, Phil</td><td>LCB</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dole, Tito</td><td>RCB</td><td>16</td><td>29</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schiller, Percy</td><td>RCB</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>25 (-9)</td><td>25 (-9)</td><td>-9</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Spearman, Nicky</td><td>RCB</td><td>18</td><td>21</td><td>20 (2)</td><td>21 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Curtin, Winston</td><td>SS</td><td>17</td><td>56</td><td>16 (-1)</td><td>46 (-10)</td><td>-1</td><td>-10</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Steidl, Deion</td><td>SS</td><td>20</td><td>53</td><td>21 (1)</td><td>47 (-6)</td><td>1</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Clements, Heath</td><td>FS</td><td>20</td><td>42</td><td>21 (1)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dawkins, Dale</td><td>FS</td><td>13</td><td>33</td><td>15 (2)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wolfe, Shannon</td><td>FS</td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 08:10 AM
Wow. HUGE bust from DT Szymanski. Good thing we still have Artie Bobo... oh, yeah, that. Ouch.
The search for a stud in the middle continues...
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 08:29 AM
From: Rufus Pinero
I have decided that loyalty is more important than money. I will report to active duty immediately.
Narcizo
11-13-2006, 08:30 AM
Szymanski has all the hallmarks of a random bust. Good to know that they're still in the game. Bleh!
Bobo? What the...? I know ratings slide in the game but that's ridiculous. Who's our defensive coordinator?
This is following the pattern of my SP game, there's an odd potential raise of 1 or 2 knocking around while a whole slew of veteran drop-offs. The plus side is that it won't be too long before the rest of the league falls to our level. Unfortunately by that stage we won't be anywhere near "our" level.
Neither Spearman or Markiewicz's future went up at all either. Although I guess you can read 0 as a relative improvement when the rest of the roster is going downhill. I just don't know how you're supposed to improve the quality of the roster.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 08:36 AM
Position battles:
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QB Burks / Waite / Tellez
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RB Greene / Terry / Marlin / Garland
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FB Holmes / Foreman
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TE Diaz / Lang / Holmes
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FL Cushing / Markiewicz
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RT DeLamielleure / Hindman
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RDE Altuna / Lopes
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SILB Polko / Knoll / Crumley
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SLB Abrams / Crumley? / ???
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LCB Gerak / Hickman
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RCB Schiller / Spearman / Dole
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SS Steidl / Curtin / ???
Warhammer
11-13-2006, 08:47 AM
In FOF, my general feeling is that "underneath" passing to the backs is generally a waste of time. I know it's a foundation of a true WCO, what we're trying to do here, but overall I feel it's not productive.
Look at TE/FB Holmes from last year. He had 91 passes thrown his way, he caught 68 for 246 yards. Nominally productive, but our team got only 2.7 yards per play on those plays -- that's just awful. Even compared to guys like TE Diaz (5.85 YPA) but definitely compared to even our rookie wide receivers Hall (6.95) and Cushing (7.65). None of our backs averaged even 4 yards a target on passes thrown their way -- these are just not productive plays.
To me, there are two ways to go here, while this team's roster is still pliable. One is to work to find backs who have the skills needed to break some of these screens and dumpoffs into big plays -- I guess that's the "getting downfield" rating primarily. Second would be to fight the true WCO thinking and to get backs with poor route running, in hopes that they will just see fewer passes thrown their way.
I think underneath passing basically stinks in FOF 2004, and while I suspect it's better in '07, maybe it still is a pretty ineffective way to run the offense.
While I have never gotten a true WCO to work, I do tend to use a higher percentage of screen players than most GMs do. Most of the time my backs get 6.5 to 9 yards per catch. The key is to have a QB with a high accuracy and backs with high getting downfield. The big killer in YPA are the 1-4 yard passes, you get a few yards out of them, but you never seem to go anywhere. Screens can be effective though, if you have the right QB/RB/FB combo.
Narcizo
11-13-2006, 08:50 AM
QB Tellez
RB Greene
FB Foreman
TE Diaz (with the starting % set way down low and Lang as back-up)
Fl Cushing
RT deLamilleure
RDE Lopes right from the start
SLB Pinero
SILB Polko
WILB Dux
WLB Crumley
seems the best way of juggling it and getting youngsters some action
LCB Gerak
RCB I don't think potential increases in-season which means that Spearman is never going to go above 22 this year. So I say go with Dole
SS Steidl - they're both going to suck. Looks like Steidl might suck less.
And I agree with Warhammer. Screen passes are alright with the right personnel. Short passes are completely useless.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 08:57 AM
So, what sort of west coast offense do you fellas recommend? I'm open to suggestions -- but thus far, we have made a concerted effort to use a lot of short passes, reducing screens last year later in the season. Do you now think the way to go is to direct more passes toward the longer end of the short pass subset?
Or are we basing these general conclusions on FOF 2004, rather than FOF 2007? One of the stated reasons for uwing the WCO with this team was the supposition that it woudl be likely to work more effectvely in the new game, better than it did in the old one. Are you guys already so well versed with FOF 2007 that you have reached fiurm conclusions about what works in the new game?
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 09:07 AM
I think we need to make some decisions on what to do with young players who had a promising training camp last year, but who didn't have any follow-up this year in camp.
I don't claim to understand development patterns in FOF 2007 nearly as well as I thought I did in FOF 2004, but I wasn't used to seeing "creepers" make gains in year two's camp. The gains each year after the rookie seaosn seemed to come at the stage when FA started. On this team, this year, the guys who made gains there were SLB Abrams (+2), SILB Knoll (+3), and CB Spearman (+1) - exactly the same list who were creeper in last year's training camp. This seems to gve folowing the same general pattern asin FOF 2004 -- the only disappointment there was TE Lang, who dropped -1.
This is why I continue to advocate for these three guys to get starting jobs with this team.
I know, I know, the flashy green bars for a guy like Crumley look a lot more enticing than the apparent potential of a guy likw Knoll -- but I think we need to take all the information we're getting here -- and based on their trainingt camp movement and followup since, we see Crumley crashing toward earth with a -7, and we see Knoll with two consecutive bumps up.
In this specific case, I believe that (a) Knoll would be a better performer right now, and (b) Knoll will actually continue developing and end up the better-rated player in the long run. In general, unless the gulf between ratings is really vast, I will pretty much always take the guy showing promise over the guy showing unreachable potential.
This is a group effort, I'm willing to be part of any group decision -- but if we're trying to manage this team optimally, then this is what I think is best for the team. I'd start Abrams at SLB, Knoll at SILB, and Spearman at RCB this year, and expect to see them all playing with this team for some time.
Warhammer
11-13-2006, 09:34 AM
I've only had 1+ season in playing with FOF2k7, but there are a few things I have noticed.
When I tweaked my short passes away from the 1-4 range and either into the screen or 5-8 yard range my completion percentage and my YPA both went up. In my particular case, I wound up with two absolute stud RBs and a stud FB (due to the dispersal draft and what was available in my first draft). My TEs are fairly weak, but I have excellent WRs. It seems that most of the 1-4 yard routes are TE style routes (complete conjecture based upon what I saw), but when you move into the 5-8 yard routes there are more run for the WRs.
I would say the best split on the passing breakdown for short situations would be: 25/15/60 for screen/1-4/5-8, you might tweak the 1-4 up to 20 and reduce 5-8 to 55, but the 5-8 range is still the hallmark of the WCO since that is where many of the slant patterns are targeted.
EDIT: What the heck am I thinking, I've played 3+ seasons... Also, I think the way FOF handles any pass behind the line of scrimmage is a screen, so any flare routes the backs run that are targeted behind the line of scrimmage are considered screens.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 09:58 AM
I'm stopping here, as I am once again assuming participants arte interested in having some input. If you're here, reading, caught up, but really don't care what we do here with some of these increemntal decisions -- please post to that effect, as it will help us all with pacing.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 11:06 AM
Incidentally, I am also perfectly happy to just go ahead, run the preseason with some common-sense lineup in place, tweak the gameplan a bit (as discussed above) and get things moving. I have time to do so today - but I don't want to do so at the expens of people who want to have meaningful input.
If now is the prime time for input, I'm certainly game for that. ALternatively, I could get us to the end of preseason, where last year we actually had some debate about the final cuts and starting positions. I'm ok either way.
For what it's worth, I think we should start as many of the young guys as possible. I'm curious to see if any of the "creepers" become break out players.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 11:27 AM
Looks like we can cut T Wilkins, as our group leader Cote has become a mentor, and killd two birds there.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 11:40 AM
I have put together a starting lineup using mostly common sense, for the preseason. Amogn the controversial decisions – here’s what I did:
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-All our young creepers are starting (not the TE), I have slotted LB Crumley as the backup at every LB spot, so he ought to see plenty of playing time as well.
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-I left Burks and Greene as our backfield starters, but went with a young FB for now. We’ll see other guys rotated in there, I trust – at QB, the rookie is slotted #2.
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-I have switched to make more use of the 5-8 yards short passes, and have balanced out the short pass selection in the 25-15-60 split as discussed above.
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-I have not changed the defense at all – doesn’t seem to be any compelling reason to do so, we don’t have major imbalances in our coverage skills, really.
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Here’s the roster summary right now:
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Texarkana Armadillos Roster, Scout Overview<o:p></o:p>
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Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct <o:p></o:p>
Burks, Howard 1 QB QB 2 23 28 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Greene, Anthony 49 RB RB 2 32 46 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Foreman, Zack 39 FB FB 2 25 43 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Diaz, Eric 87 TE TE 5 61 61 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Markiewicz, Artie 88 FL FL 2 18 34 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Ballard, Burt 86 SE SE 1 39 61 4 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Bickler, Jonathan 68 LT LT 2 56 84 4 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Pascal, Marco 66 LG LG 1 37 70 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
El Nino, Leland 50 C C 9 52 52 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Aiston, Sherman 69 RG RG 6 36 36 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
DeLamielleure, Kent 65 RT RT 2 32 33 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Zimmerman, Amos 58 LDE LDE 1 33 63 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Szymanski, Wendell 75 NT NT 1 33 52 5 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Altuna, Albert 78 RDE RDE 7 40 40 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Abrams, Shaun 92 SLB SLB 2 18 34 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Knoll, Leland 53 SILB SILB 2 23 35 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Dux, Brett 93 WILB WILB 2 38 59 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Pinero, Rufus 57 WLB WLB 7 47 47 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Gerak, Howie 26 LCB LCB 10 38 38 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Spearman, Nicky 24 RCB RCB 2 20 21 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Steidl, Deion 23 SS SS 1 21 47 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Clements, Heath 44 FS FS 2 21 42 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Schultz, Leslie 19 QB 7 16 30 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Tellez, Stan 16 QB 1 12 52 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Terry, Graham 47 RB 1 31 42 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Marlin, Norm 36 RB 1 23 39 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Holmes, Harvey 48 TE 8 58 65 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Lang, Johnnie 80 TE 2 35 51 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Cushing, Roosevelt 89 FL 2 27 44 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Hall, Daniel 85 SE 2 29 31 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Woodson, Grady 84 SE 10 24 24 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Yardley, Carlton 63 LG 6 18 38 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Wallace, Bert 71 LG 1 13 52 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Wilkins, Kyle 67 LT 11 29 29 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Hindman, Jason 60 RT 1 21 31 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Ludwig, Billy Joe 17 P 2 36 36 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Whiting, Neil 15 K 2 52 55 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Lopes, Brant 95 RDE 1 21 61 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Burks, Corwin 94 NT 12 41 41 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Bobo, Artie 90 NT 2 25 25 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Polko, Kevin 91 SILB 8 34 38 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Crumley, Rickey 55 SILB 1 24 54 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Samuels, Lamont 54 WILB 8 41 41 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Hickman, Carlos 25 LCB 1 19 34 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
Dole, Tito 46 RCB 2 18 29 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
Wolfe, Shannon 42 FS 6 51 51 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
##Waite, Hugh 8 QB 3 14 47 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
##Aranda, Marc 41 RB 8 33 33 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##Garland, Marlon 30 RB 2 24 25 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##McDaniel, Phillip 43 FB 2 16 34 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##Kramer, Frankie 83 FL 11 26 26 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
##Fabbrizzi, Dennis 81 FL 2 15 30 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##Warren, Tarlos 62 LG 2 20 36 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##Cote, Bruce 76 RT 9 11 11 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
##Abrams, Terry 73 LDE 2 22 34 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##Tyler, Rusty 96 LDE 2 16 27 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##Forbes, Julio 70 NT 7 32 32 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
##Belanger, Grady 59 WLB 8 34 34 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
##Schiller, Percy 21 RCB 12 25 25 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
##Curtin, Winston 22 SS 1 16 46 2 yrs<o:p></o:p>
##Dawkins, Dale 34 FS 2 15 33 1 yr.<o:p></o:p>
%%Booker, Doug 51 SLB 2 47 61 3 yrs<o:p></o:p>
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$$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive, <o:p></o:p>
** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR.
I think I carried one extra guy through camp by accident (last rookie held out until just before camp) so sorry about that – we will need to make 8 cuts after preseason.
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Any other tweaks we need to do before running the preseason games?
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QuikSand
11-13-2006, 11:50 AM
My thinking is that we carry RB Arnanda through the year, inactive, and seething. He will be angry by the end of the seaeon, so I recommend we cut him then.
Next offseason, hopefully we can locate a better RB/FB group leader, but if not, he won't still be carrying his grudge with us, at least.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 12:38 PM
New files coming momentarily, preseason done, box scores posted in the dynasty thread.
robbgmaier3
11-13-2006, 01:34 PM
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">Texarkana Armadillos Player Report</td> </tr> <tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">(GT2008c-precamp - GT2008d-postcamp)</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td class="headr">Name</td><td class="headr">Pos</td><td class="headr">GT2008c-precamp Current</td><td class="headr">GT2008c-precamp Future</td><td class="headr">GT2008d-postcamp Current</td><td class="headr">GT2008d-postcamp Future</td><td class="headr">Overall Current Change</td><td class="headr">Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Howard</td><td>QB</td><td>22</td><td>27</td><td>23 (1)</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schultz, Leslie</td><td>QB</td><td>16</td><td>31</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>30 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Tellez, Stan</td><td>QB</td><td>12</td><td>61</td><td>12 (0)</td><td>52 (-9)</td><td>0</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Waite, Hugh</td><td>QB</td><td>14</td><td>47</td><td>14 (0)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Aranda, Marc</td><td>RB</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Garland, Marlon</td><td>RB</td><td>24</td><td>25</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Greene, Anthony</td><td>RB</td><td>32</td><td>46</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>46 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Marlin, Norm</td><td>RB</td><td>24</td><td>43</td><td>23 (-1)</td><td>39 (-4)</td><td>-1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Terry, Graham</td><td>RB</td><td>31</td><td>43</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>42 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Foreman, Zack</td><td>FB</td><td>24</td><td>42</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>43 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>McDaniel, Phillip</td><td>FB</td><td>15</td><td>34</td><td>16 (1)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Diaz, Eric</td><td>TE</td><td>62</td><td>62</td><td>61 (-1)</td><td>61 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Holmes, Harvey</td><td>TE</td><td>56</td><td>64</td><td>58 (2)</td><td>65 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lang, Johnnie</td><td>TE</td><td>34</td><td>51</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cushing, Roosevelt</td><td>FL</td><td>26</td><td>43</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>44 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Fabbrizzi, Dennis</td><td>FL</td><td>15</td><td>30</td><td>15 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Kramer, Frankie</td><td>FL</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>26 (-7)</td><td>26 (-7)</td><td>-7</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Markiewicz, Artie</td><td>FL</td><td>18</td><td>34</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ballard, Burt</td><td>SE</td><td>36</td><td>66</td><td>39 (3)</td><td>61 (-5)</td><td>3</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hall, Daniel</td><td>SE</td><td>28</td><td>31</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Woodson, Grady</td><td>SE</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>24 (-5)</td><td>24 (-5)</td><td>-5</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pascal, Marco</td><td>LG</td><td>33</td><td>73</td><td>37 (4)</td><td>70 (-3)</td><td>4</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wallace, Bert</td><td>LG</td><td>12</td><td>56</td><td>13 (1)</td><td>52 (-4)</td><td>1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Warren, Tarlos</td><td>LG</td><td>21</td><td>41</td><td>20 (-1)</td><td>36 (-5)</td><td>-1</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Yardley, Carlton</td><td>LG</td><td>18</td><td>39</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>38 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Aiston, Sherman</td><td>RG</td><td>36</td><td>45</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (-9)</td><td>0</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bickler, Jonathan</td><td>LT</td><td>57</td><td>84</td><td>56 (-1)</td><td>84 (0)</td><td>-1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wilkins, Kyle</td><td>LT</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>29 (-5)</td><td>29 (-5)</td><td>-5</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cote, Bruce</td><td>RT</td><td>12</td><td>12</td><td>11 (-1)</td><td>11 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>DeLamielleure, Kent</td><td>RT</td><td>29</td><td>34</td><td>32 (3)</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>3</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hindman, Jason</td><td>RT</td><td>19</td><td>32</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>31 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Whiting, Neil</td><td>K</td><td>47</td><td>56</td><td>52 (5)</td><td>55 (-1)</td><td>5</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ludwig, Billy</td><td>P</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Abrams, Terry</td><td>LDE</td><td>22</td><td>34</td><td>22 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Tyler, Rusty</td><td>LDE</td><td>16</td><td>26</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Zimmerman, Amos</td><td>LDE</td><td>35</td><td>67</td><td>33 (-2)</td><td>63 (-4)</td><td>-2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bobo, Artie</td><td>NT</td><td>24</td><td>43</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>25 (-18)</td><td>1</td><td>-18</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Corwin</td><td>NT</td><td>44</td><td>44</td><td>41 (-3)</td><td>41 (-3)</td><td>-3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Forbes, Julio</td><td>NT</td><td>31</td><td>31</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Szymanski, Wendell</td><td>NT</td><td>61</td><td>84</td><td>33 (-28)</td><td>52 (-32)</td><td>-28</td><td>-32</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Altuna, Albert</td><td>RDE</td><td>48</td><td>48</td><td>40 (-8)</td><td>40 (-8)</td><td>-8</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lopes, Brant</td><td>RDE</td><td>17</td><td>65</td><td>21 (4)</td><td>61 (-4)</td><td>4</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Abrams, Shaun</td><td>SLB</td><td>18</td><td>34</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Crumley, Rickey</td><td>SILB</td><td>22</td><td>61</td><td>24 (2)</td><td>54 (-7)</td><td>2</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Knoll, Leland</td><td>SILB</td><td>21</td><td>36</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>35 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Polko, Kevin</td><td>SILB</td><td>32</td><td>39</td><td>34 (2)</td><td>38 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dux, Brett</td><td>WILB</td><td>36</td><td>59</td><td>38 (2)</td><td>59 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Samuels, Lamont</td><td>WILB</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td>41 (-1)</td><td>41 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Belanger, Grady</td><td>WLB</td><td>38</td><td>39</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>34 (-5)</td><td>-4</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pinero, Rufus</td><td>WLB</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Gerak, Howie</td><td>LCB</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>38 (-3)</td><td>38 (-3)</td><td>-3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hickman, Carlos</td><td>LCB</td><td>19</td><td>37</td><td>19 (0)</td><td>34 (-3)</td><td>0</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Rogers, Phil</td><td>LCB</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>
</pre></td><td>
</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dole, Tito</td><td>RCB</td><td>16</td><td>29</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schiller, Percy</td><td>RCB</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>25 (-9)</td><td>25 (-9)</td><td>-9</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Spearman, Nicky</td><td>RCB</td><td>18</td><td>21</td><td>20 (2)</td><td>21 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Curtin, Winston</td><td>SS</td><td>17</td><td>56</td><td>16 (-1)</td><td>46 (-10)</td><td>-1</td><td>-10</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Steidl, Deion</td><td>SS</td><td>20</td><td>53</td><td>21 (1)</td><td>47 (-6)</td><td>1</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Clements, Heath</td><td>FS</td><td>20</td><td>42</td><td>21 (1)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dawkins, Dale</td><td>FS</td><td>13</td><td>33</td><td>15 (2)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wolfe, Shannon</td><td>FS</td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
sorry to be a pest, but I don't see any centers on the list? Y'all got any centers? :)
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 01:39 PM
Odd..we do have one, I don't know why he isn't showing up there. *shurg*
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 02:13 PM
I guess at this point, we'll take anything for "contributions." *shurg*
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 02:52 PM
Well, here's a draft list of final cuts. We have sone injury problems along the OL right now, so I'm not going as deep there as I might have...
QB Hugh Waite
RB Marlon Garland
FB Philip McDaniel
WR Dennis Fabbrizzi
WR Frankie Kramer
DE Rusty Tyler
DE Terry Abrams
S Dale Dawkins
Sorry, couldn't be around during the day. Cut list looks OK.
That is a super painful bust. OOF.
I think Tellez is the better fit for us long term or are we scared off by the -9 camp?
I also think Lang and Lopes should be rotated in as frequently as possible.
It's going to be a long season...
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 05:28 PM
Hmmm... I am really worried about Tellez at QB, but I don't think we have a lot to lose. Agreed on the rest, especially the closing observation.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 05:56 PM
Okay, we send QB Sten Tellez out to be our starter for the first games, hoping to see a little shade of his decent potential, and his solid skills at thirt passing. We'll see Greene as the RB starter, but will expect to see a committee approach there. We have young players in many key slots, and will hope to see some real development there as well.
The dynasty thread is crashing for me now, I presume a function of the graphic-intenisve box scores. I'll see what makes the most sense...
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 06:01 PM
2008 Summary for Texarkana Armadillos<o:p></o:p>
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Year 2008 <o:p></o:p>
Record 0-4 <o:p></o:p>
Winning Pct. .000 <o:p></o:p>
All-Time 3-33 <o:p></o:p>
Winning Pct. .083 <o:p></o:p>
Playoffs 0-0 <o:p></o:p>
Playoff Visits 0 <o:p></o:p>
Bowl Wins 0 <o:p></o:p>
Head Coach Timothy Downs <o:p></o:p>
Record 3-17 <o:p></o:p>
Winning Pct. .150 <o:p></o:p>
Off. Coord. C. Hansford <o:p></o:p>
Def. Coord. B. Lucas <o:p></o:p>
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Texarkana Armadillos Team Rank <o:p></o:p>
Rushes per Game 22.3 30 <o:p></o:p>
Rushing Yards 95.8 25 <o:p></o:p>
Yards Per Carry 4.30 7 <o:p></o:p>
Pass Attempts 39.0 2 <o:p></o:p>
Completions 22.0 7 (T) <o:p></o:p>
Completion Pct. 56.4 21 <o:p></o:p>
Passing Yards 132.0 31 <o:p></o:p>
Yards Per Attempt 3.38 32 <o:p></o:p>
Yards Per Catch 6.00 32 <o:p></o:p>
Total Yardage Gained 211.5 32 <o:p></o:p>
3rd Down Conversions 25.0 28 <o:p></o:p>
Points Per Game 7.0 32 <o:p></o:p>
Pass Rush Pct. 4.6 32 <o:p></o:p>
Pass Defense Pct. 70.8 18 <o:p></o:p>
Turnovers 13 32 <o:p></o:p>
Turnover Margin -3 25 (T) <o:p></o:p>
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Opponents Team Rank <o:p></o:p>
Rushes per Game 28.5 20 <o:p></o:p>
Rushing Yards 132.5 26 <o:p></o:p>
Yards Per Carry 4.65 29 <o:p></o:p>
Pass Attempts 32.8 12 (T) <o:p></o:p>
Completions 20.5 18 (T) <o:p></o:p>
Completion Pct. 62.6 24 (T) <o:p></o:p>
Passing Yards 219.3 20 <o:p></o:p>
Yards Per Attempt 6.69 27 <o:p></o:p>
Yards Per Catch 10.70 23 <o:p></o:p>
Total Yardage Gained 334.8 27 <o:p></o:p>
3rd Down Conversions 40.4 29 <o:p></o:p>
Points Per Game 31.8 32 <o:p></o:p>
Pass Rush Pct. 6.1 8 (T) <o:p></o:p>
Pass Defense Pct. 74.4 26 <o:p></o:p>
Turnovers 10 5 (T) <o:p></o:p>
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Week Team Versus Oppnt <o:p></o:p>
1 7 JAX 35 <o:p></o:p>
2 0 at CHI 30 <o:p></o:p>
3 3 at OAK 21 <o:p></o:p>
4 18 at PIT 41 <o:p></o:p>
6 CLE <o:p></o:p>
7 at TEN <o:p></o:p>
8 CIN <o:p></o:p>
9 at BAL <o:p></o:p>
10 at IND <o:p></o:p>
11 at JAX <o:p></o:p>
12 GBY <o:p></o:p>
13 NJY <o:p></o:p>
14 at DET <o:p></o:p>
15 TEN <o:p></o:p>
16 MIN <o:p></o:p>
17 IND <o:p></o:p>
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Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate <o:p></o:p>
16 S. Tellez QB 133 78 488 3.67 1 5 53.1 <o:p></o:p>
1 H. Burks QB 23 10 40 1.74 0 1 32.7 <o:p></o:p>
**Team --- 156 88 528 3.38 1 6 49.3 <o:p></o:p>
$$Opp --- 131 82 877 6.69 6 6 78.3 <o:p></o:p>
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Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum <o:p></o:p>
49 A. Greene RB 39 143 3.67 1 2
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47 G. Terry RB 38 173 4.55 1 1 <o:p></o:p>
**Team --- 89 383 4.30 2 8 <o:p></o:p>
$$Opp --- 114 530 4.65 8 6 <o:p></o:p>
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Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD <o:p></o:p>
48 H. Holmes TE 26 19 100 5.26 3.85 0 0 <o:p></o:p>
89 R. Cushing WR 24 14 115 8.21 4.79 0 1 <o:p></o:p>
86 B. Ballard WR 29 14 71 5.07 2.45 0 0 <o:p></o:p>
88 A. Markiewicz WR 26 11 117 10.64 4.50 0 1 <o:p></o:p>
47 G. Terry RB 10 7 20 2.86 2.00 0 2 <o:p></o:p>
87 E. Diaz TE 9 5 30 6.00 3.33 0 0 <o:p></o:p>
39 Z. Foreman FB 7 5 23 4.60 3.29 0 0 <o:p></o:p>
49 A. Greene RB 6 4 16 4.00 2.67 0 0 <o:p></o:p>
80 J. Lang TE 7 4 9 2.25 1.29 0 0 <o:p></o:p>
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Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct <o:p></o:p>
53 L. Knoll ILB 26 5 2.0 0 0 0 69.9 <o:p></o:p>
57 R. Pinero OLB 24 5 0.0 1 0 1 71.6 <o:p></o:p>
93 B. Dux ILB 23 11 0.0 0 0 0 72.4 <o:p></o:p>
92 S. Abrams OLB 16 9 3.0 0 1 4 82.5 <o:p></o:p>
42 S. Wolfe S 14 4 0.0 0 0 0 74.8 <o:p></o:p>
24 N. Spearman CB 11 2 0.0 0 1 0 72.7 <o:p></o:p>
23 D. Steidl S 11 6 0.0 0 0 0 68.5 <o:p></o:p>
44 H. Clements S 10 4 0.0 0 1 2 87.1 <o:p></o:p>
58 A. Zimmerman DE 9 1 1.5 1 0 1 83.7 <o:p></o:p>
26 H. Gerak CB 8 4 0.0 0 1 2 88.5 <o:p></o:p>
55 R. Crumley ILB 8 8 1.0 1 0 0 78.0 <o:p></o:p>
78 A. Altuna DE 7 6 2.0 5 0 0 82.5 <o:p></o:p>
25 C. Hickman CB 7 3 0.0 0 1 3 93.5 <o:p></o:p>
95 B. Lopes DE 5 4 1.5 0 0 0 82.5 <o:p></o:p>
75 W. Szymanski DT 5 4 0.0 2 0 0 79.9
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QuikSand
11-13-2006, 06:02 PM
We are awful.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 06:03 PM
From: Personnel Department
Injury Report:
Bruce Cote, RT, is now 100%.
Eric Diaz, TE, is now 100%.
Artie Markiewicz, FL, is now 100%.
Jonathan Bickler, LT - Pulled Calf Muscle, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks.
Amos Zimmerman, LDE - Hyperextended Knee, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks.
Graham Terry, RB - Strained Quadriceps Muscle, Probable, full strength in about 3 weeks.
Johnnie Lang, TE - Dislocated Shoulder, Out, full strength in about 4 weeks.
Doug Booker, SLB - ACL Knee Surgery, Out, full strength in 2009.
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 06:04 PM
I think it is time for a change at RB - maybe go with the rookie Terry as more of a first-duty back, and relegate Greene to backup duty?
QuikSand
11-13-2006, 06:06 PM
File sent. If anyone else wants to run some games and do some tweaking, i'd welcome it. We have things set up in a pretty vanilla fashion right now -- but I don't see how much hope there is for this team, this year.
Not much to look forward to this season really and it really hurts to see the injury list littered with our kids.
I can probably run us through the rest of the season tonight, I'm doubting we have too much to discuss the rest of the way.
Doing some gameplan work, I'll run at least one stage tonight.
OK, I've made quite a few adjustments to the offensive plan. I'll post the saved plan to the yahoomail site along with the next quartet of games.
Front Office Football 2007
2008 Summary for Texarkana Armadillos
Year 2008
Record 1-7
Winning Pct. .125
All-Time 4-36
Winning Pct. .100
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Timothy Downs
Record 4-20
Winning Pct. .166
Off. Coord. C. Hansford
Def. Coord. B. Lucas
Texarkana Armadillos Team Rank
Rushes per Game 18.5 32
Rushing Yards 79.6 31
Yards Per Carry 4.30 3
Pass Attempts 38.3 1
Completions 22.8 2
Completion Pct. 59.5 15
Passing Yards 132.3 32
Yards Per Attempt 3.46 32
Yards Per Catch 5.81 32
Total Yardage Gained 189.5 32
3rd Down Conversions 28.2 27
Points Per Game 6.6 32
Pass Rush Pct. 5.8 31
Pass Defense Pct. 65.5 25
Turnovers 21 31 (T)
Turnover Margin -4 23 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 30.3 27
Rushing Yards 132.3 30
Yards Per Carry 4.37 30
Pass Attempts 31.9 14
Completions 20.6 25 (T)
Completion Pct. 64.7 28
Passing Yards 227.5 23
Yards Per Attempt 7.14 26
Yards Per Catch 11.03 24
Total Yardage Gained 343.4 28
3rd Down Conversions 39.8 28
Points Per Game 30.3 32
Pass Rush Pct. 6.7 11
Pass Defense Pct. 68.5 19
Turnovers 17 9 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 7 JAX 35
2 0 at CHI 30
3 3 at OAK 21
4 18 at PIT 41
6 3 CLE 34
7 7 at TEN 27
8 12 CIN 10
9 3 at BAL 44
10 at IND
11 at JAX
12 GBY
13 NJY
14 at DET
15 TEN
16 MIN
17 IND
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
16 S. Tellez QB 274 167 998 3.64 1 10 54.1
1 H. Burks QB 32 15 60 1.88 0 1 40.6
**Team --- 306 182 1058 3.46 1 11 52.1
$$Opp --- 255 165 1820 7.14 14 11 86.0
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
47 G. Terry RB 69 354 5.13 2 2
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49 A. Greene RB 64 202 3.16 1 2
**Team --- 148 637 4.30 3 12
$$Opp --- 242 1058 4.37 13 10
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
48 H. Holmes TE 55 37 202 5.46 3.67 0 1
86 B. Ballard WR 54 30 183 6.10 3.39 0 1
47 G. Terry RB 34 26 82 3.15 2.41 0 2
89 R. Cushing WR 44 24 181 7.54 4.11 0 2
88 A. Markiewicz WR 37 15 149 9.93 4.03 0 2
49 A. Greene RB 18 13 45 3.46 2.50 0 1
39 Z. Foreman FB 13 10 48 4.80 3.69 0 0
85 D. Hall WR 23 10 93 9.30 4.04 1 2
87 E. Diaz TE 13 8 52 6.50 4.00 0 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
57 R. Pinero OLB 48 13 2.0 1 0 1 69.8
53 L. Knoll ILB 48 20 3.0 0 1 0 73.9
93 B. Dux ILB 40 19 0.0 1 0 0 73.8
92 S. Abrams OLB 29 13 6.0 1 1 5 79.9
42 S. Wolfe S 27 8 0.0 0 1 0 77.6
23 D. Steidl S 26 9 0.0 1 0 0 71.0
24 N. Spearman CB 22 7 0.0 0 2 1 74.8
44 H. Clements S 22 13 0.0 1 1 3 82.1
55 R. Crumley ILB 22 12 2.0 2 0 0 77.5
26 H. Gerak CB 16 5 0.0 0 3 2 86.6
78 A. Altuna DE 16 12 2.5 6 0 0 82.5
75 W. Szymanski DT 16 5 0.0 3 0 0 81.2
94 C. Burks DT 14 4 0.5 3 0 0 82.5
95 B. Lopes DE 13 7 3.0 0 0 0 81.8
25 C. Hickman CB 13 6 0.0 0 1 3 82.6
58 A. Zimmerman DE 12 4 2.0 1 0 1 82.4
46 T. Dole CB 10 6 0.0 0 1 0 72.8
Only one injury, but it is a concerning one:
Jonathan Bickler, LT - Strained Foot Ligament, Out, full strength in about 2 weeks.
He had completed healed before coming back and now he's hurt again with a different injury.
Files up. Took longer than I planned on the game plan and I think it was to no avail. We're passing a little bit more than I hoped.
Tasan
11-13-2006, 08:55 PM
Finally got to look at the files. Wow on our 'stud' DT. I would not be suprised to see him do what Bobo did next season and 'finish' developing around where he's at right now. Guess that may be what we draft next season, again.
Nice to see our rookie RB's yards per didn't take a hit when he started getting more carries. He might be a decent back for us.
Front Office Football 2007
2008 Summary for Texarkana Armadillos
Year 2008
Record 1-11
Winning Pct. .083
All-Time 4-40
Winning Pct. .090
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Timothy Downs
Record 4-24
Winning Pct. .142
Off. Coord. C. Hansford
Def. Coord. B. Lucas
Texarkana Armadillos Team Rank
Rushes per Game 17.0 32
Rushing Yards 70.4 32
Yards Per Carry 4.14 8
Pass Attempts 37.7 2
Completions 21.6 6
Completion Pct. 57.3 27
Passing Yards 125.1 32
Yards Per Attempt 3.32 32
Yards Per Catch 5.80 32
Total Yardage Gained 173.0 32
3rd Down Conversions 26.4 32
Points Per Game 5.8 32
Pass Rush Pct. 5.1 31
Pass Defense Pct. 63.2 28 (T)
Turnovers 31 32
Turnover Margin -6 26
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 30.3 26
Rushing Yards 127.5 31
Yards Per Carry 4.21 29
Pass Attempts 33.6 19 (T)
Completions 22.3 32
Completion Pct. 66.5 31
Passing Yards 253.1 32
Yards Per Attempt 7.54 30
Yards Per Catch 11.33 30
Total Yardage Gained 362.3 32
3rd Down Conversions 41.4 29
Points Per Game 30.9 32
Pass Rush Pct. 7.2 19
Pass Defense Pct. 70.6 24
Turnovers 25 9 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 7 JAX 35
2 0 at CHI 30
3 3 at OAK 21
4 18 at PIT 41
6 3 CLE 34
7 7 at TEN 27
8 12 CIN 10
9 3 at BAL 44
10 6 at IND 34
11 0 at JAX 34
12 0 GBY 38
13 10 NJY 23
14 at DET
15 TEN
16 MIN
17 IND
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
16 S. Tellez QB 404 241 1424 3.52 2 14 53.7
1 H. Burks QB 48 18 77 1.60 0 2 28.5
**Team --- 452 259 1501 3.32 2 16 50.4
$$Opp --- 403 268 3037 7.54 25 16 93.0
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
47 G. Terry RB 95 465 4.89 2 3
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49 A. Greene RB 84 266 3.17 1 5
**Team --- 204 845 4.14 3 23
$$Opp --- 363 1530 4.21 16 14
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
48 H. Holmes TE 76 49 262 5.35 3.45 0 2
86 B. Ballard WR 76 42 296 7.05 3.89 0 4
89 R. Cushing WR 72 36 274 7.61 3.81 0 5
47 G. Terry RB 42 31 91 2.94 2.17 0 2
49 A. Greene RB 29 20 57 2.85 1.97 0 2
80 J. Lang TE 27 18 74 4.11 2.74 0 2
88 A. Markiewicz WR 46 18 179 9.94 3.89 1 2
85 D. Hall WR 36 15 123 8.20 3.42 1 2
39 Z. Foreman FB 21 14 51 3.64 2.43 0 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
53 L. Knoll ILB 73 24 3.0 0 3 1 78.2
57 R. Pinero OLB 64 21 2.0 1 1 2 72.5
93 B. Dux ILB 57 27 0.0 1 0 1 74.9
92 S. Abrams OLB 52 22 10.0 1 1 8 78.0
42 S. Wolfe S 43 12 0.0 0 1 1 76.1
44 H. Clements S 42 16 1.0 1 1 3 78.1
55 R. Crumley ILB 40 18 2.0 3 0 0 75.8
23 D. Steidl S 38 13 0.0 1 0 0 71.6
24 N. Spearman CB 33 13 0.0 0 2 1 73.7
26 H. Gerak CB 31 6 1.0 0 4 5 84.3
95 B. Lopes DE 27 10 5.5 2 0 0 81.7
75 W. Szymanski DT 26 6 1.5 4 0 0 81.7
78 A. Altuna DE 22 15 3.5 8 0 0 82.5
25 C. Hickman CB 22 7 0.0 0 1 3 77.8
94 C. Burks DT 17 6 1.5 3 0 0 82.5
58 A. Zimmerman DE 15 5 3.0 3 0 1 82.4
46 T. Dole CB 13 6 0.0 0 2 0 78.4
To end the pain:
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2008 Summary for Texarkana Armadillos
Year 2008
Record 1-15
Winning Pct. .062
All-Time 4-44
Winning Pct. .083
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Timothy Downs
Record 4-28
Winning Pct. .125
Off. Coord. C. Hansford
Def. Coord. B. Lucas
Texarkana Armadillos Team Rank
Rushes per Game 15.9 32
Rushing Yards 63.0 32
Yards Per Carry 3.97 11
Pass Attempts 38.4 1
Completions 21.7 6
Completion Pct. 56.5 26
Passing Yards 131.9 32
Yards Per Attempt 3.44 32
Yards Per Catch 6.08 32
Total Yardage Gained 172.7 32
3rd Down Conversions 25.3 32
Points Per Game 6.2 32
Pass Rush Pct. 5.0 32
Pass Defense Pct. 65.0 24 (T)
Turnovers 42 32
Turnover Margin -11 29
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 31.1 32
Rushing Yards 129.5 30
Yards Per Carry 4.16 27
Pass Attempts 33.6 24
Completions 21.9 32
Completion Pct. 65.2 31
Passing Yards 246.8 31
Yards Per Attempt 7.34 30
Yards Per Catch 11.25 30
Total Yardage Gained 358.5 31
3rd Down Conversions 40.5 29
Points Per Game 30.4 32
Pass Rush Pct. 7.5 21
Pass Defense Pct. 71.7 26 (T)
Turnovers 31 10 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 7 JAX 35
2 0 at CHI 30
3 3 at OAK 21
4 18 at PIT 41
6 3 CLE 34
7 7 at TEN 27
8 12 CIN 10
9 3 at BAL 44
10 6 at IND 34
11 0 at JAX 34
12 0 GBY 38
13 10 NJY 23
14 7 at DET 20
15 7 TEN 56
16 6 MIN 14
17 10 IND 26
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
16 S. Tellez QB 548 325 2014 3.68 3 20 53.4
1 H. Burks QB 66 22 97 1.47 0 2 29.7
**Team --- 614 347 2111 3.44 3 22 50.1
$$Opp --- 538 351 3948 7.34 34 20 92.6
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
47 G. Terry RB 120 514 4.28 3 4
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49 A. Greene RB 84 266 3.17 1 5
**Team --- 254 1008 3.97 4 32
$$Opp --- 498 2072 4.16 20 20
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
86 B. Ballard WR 112 62 503 8.11 4.49 0 7
48 H. Holmes TE 91 61 335 5.49 3.68 1 2
89 R. Cushing WR 114 55 410 7.45 3.60 0 9
47 G. Terry RB 51 38 118 3.11 2.31 0 2
80 J. Lang TE 41 26 120 4.62 2.93 0 2
85 D. Hall WR 55 26 182 7.00 3.31 1 3
49 A. Greene RB 29 20 57 2.85 1.97 0 2
88 A. Markiewicz WR 57 20 192 9.60 3.37 1 4
39 Z. Foreman FB 26 17 63 3.71 2.42 0 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
53 L. Knoll ILB 106 29 3.0 0 3 1 76.4
57 R. Pinero OLB 81 25 4.0 1 1 2 73.4
93 B. Dux ILB 80 35 0.0 1 2 2 76.4
92 S. Abrams OLB 74 26 14.0 3 1 8 77.0
42 S. Wolfe S 68 17 0.0 0 2 2 76.0
55 R. Crumley ILB 56 24 3.0 3 0 1 75.1
23 D. Steidl S 46 19 0.0 1 0 2 75.2
44 H. Clements S 43 16 1.0 1 1 3 78.2
26 H. Gerak CB 41 9 1.0 0 4 9 83.2
24 N. Spearman CB 41 13 0.0 0 2 2 75.1
75 W. Szymanski DT 33 9 2.5 6 0 1 82.5
95 B. Lopes DE 32 15 6.5 3 0 0 81.6
78 A. Altuna DE 29 18 5.0 11 0 0 82.2
25 C. Hickman CB 29 8 0.0 0 2 4 79.7
94 C. Burks DT 21 8 1.5 3 0 0 82.5
58 A. Zimmerman DE 21 10 3.5 6 0 1 81.8
46 T. Dole CB 17 9 0.0 0 2 1 78.7
Injury Report:
Anthony Greene, RB, is now 100%.
Artie Bobo, NT, is now 100%.
Tito Dole, RCB - Strained Rotator Cuff, Probable, full strength in about 1 week.
Graham Terry, RB - Deep Thigh Bruise, Probable, full strength in about 1 week.
Heath Clements, FS - High Ankle Sprain, Questionable, full strength in about 2 weeks.
Sherman Aiston, RG - Concussion, Probable, full strength in about 3 weeks.
Brant Lopes, RDE - Abdominal Strain, Doubtful, full strength in about 3 weeks.
Playing Time Report:
Corwin Burks, NT - Disgruntled.
Marc Aranda, RB - Unhappy.
Lamont Samuels, WILB - Disgruntled.
Leslie Schultz, QB - Demanding Trade.
Jason Hindman, LT - Disgruntled.
Files up prior to the playoffs, not that we made it with our miracle 1-15 run. I'm just not sure if we have any housekeeping to do. Potential contract extensions and the like.
Tasan
11-13-2006, 09:26 PM
Does anyone understand why Abrams got so many sacks? Is he going to boom maybe?
Szymanksi ends the season 42/42. What a shame that was.
Does anyone understand why Abrams got so many sacks? Is he going to boom maybe?
Not sure, especially since our opponents never really had to pass that often so his sack opportunities should be low. Hell of a season though.
kingfc22
11-13-2006, 09:35 PM
1-15. Ouch
1-15. Ouch
Part of me says 1-15, wow.
kingfc22
11-13-2006, 09:39 PM
I'm really curious to see what Abrams ratings look like next season. What is his pass rush technique and pass rush strength ratings for anyone that has the game open?
SFL Cat
11-13-2006, 09:47 PM
MEDIA REPORT -- Clean House at Texarkana
I've been supportive of QuikSand in the past. I think he's got a tough job as the GM of the Texarkana football team. However, after what we've seen this past season, it's time for him to go and the rest of his staff with him.
We have a program obviously headed in the wrong direction, complete with a GM and staff that try to justify misstep after misstep. We need to get a GM and a coaching staff that has a clue about what they are doing. There are some quality candidates out there. I hear jbmagic is available. I also hear that Daivd of Maximum Football fame might be looking for his next gig. At the very least, he could give Texarkana a customizable offense; something the team lacked this past disaster of a season.
Tasan
11-13-2006, 09:54 PM
16/43 for technique and 27/27 for strength on Abrams pass rush numbers, as of week 4. Haven't gotten the last files yet.
21/43 technique and 27/27 strength to end the season.
Narcizo
11-14-2006, 02:08 AM
Abrams certainly seems to have good numbers, not just his sacks - I'm thinking it might be the WLB (who's great at pass rushing) flushes the quarterback out and Abrams nabs him. He doesn't get any hurries or whatnot though so to me it looks like a flaw in the game logic.
Anyway. First overall pick here we come. Maybe there'll be a decent quarterback available. Or a DT who won't bust.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:12 AM
Defensive stats are always weird to try to get a good handle on, in my view. A guy like SLB Abrams certainly seems like he's overperforming to me (obviously) but it's hard to say whether it's a matter of him being a typical creeper who plays over his head, or whether he's just the beneficiary of numbers resulting from us hving a bad overall defense. Actually, the same can be said for LB Knoll, another creeper player (just in case you have missed the 27 different debates so far about this type of player).
What sort of irks me is the notion that our strong-side linebacker is a sack machine, while the weak-side 'backer (the guy who actually has the monster rating in PR technique) is pretty mediocre there, again this year. By the book, WLB is supposedly a part of the standard pass rushing package from the 3-4 -- it's as if Pinero is hardly getting any pressure at all. I hate drawing conclusions from really small sample sizes, but something seems screwy here to me... probably worthy of a note in the bug thread.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:16 AM
ANother global thought -- I realize we have weak talent overall, but this offense just has to be killing us. I'm pretty muich convinced that if we lat our staff set the gameplan rather than emphasizing the short passing so much, that we'd be seeing far better results from our passing game -- maybe 5.0 - 5.5 yards per attempt rather than this abysmal 3.4. Not only are we lousy in personnel, but I think we are really hurting ourselves by being too predictable (and perhaps not set up with players who can really execute this specialty offense yet).
Narcizo
11-14-2006, 07:21 AM
I agree with that. Aren't West Coast offences meant to be have pretty specialist (and intelligent) players that we just don't have? I think we should probably look towards a more balanced offence.
My limited experience of watching games really does suggest that the 1-4 yard range (and screen passes to some extent - although I've been lacking the personnel there as well) is a quick way of going 3 and out. I think short passes are something that should only be wheeled out in specific short yardage situations.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:22 AM
2008 Awards List<o></o>
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Award Player Team <o:p></o:p>
Player of the Year Kirk Gann IND <o:p></o:p>
Front Office Bowl MVP Victor Brewer STL <o:p></o:p>
Coach of the Year Not Yet Awarded <o:p></o:p>
Legend of the Game Not Yet Awarded <o:p></o:p>
Offensive Player of the Year Kirk Gann IND <o:p></o:p>
**Defensive Player of the Year Shaun Abrams TXA <o:p></o:p>
Offensive Rookie of the Year Drew Murray TEN <o:p></o:p>
Defensive Rookie of the Year Steven Foster BUF <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Quarterback Emmanuel Hatcher NED <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Running Back Kirk Gann IND <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Fullback Tommy Rivard BUF <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Tight End Andre Hughes OAK <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Wide Receiver Billy Joe Anderko CAR <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Wide Receiver Renaldo Grant DET <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Center Kelvin Issa SEA <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Offensive Guard Korey Tilley SFO <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Offensive Guard Marlon Webster IND <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Offensive Tackle Jon Bradley KCY <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Offensive Tackle Kris Bunten SFO <o:p></o:p>
**All-League First Team Punter Billy Joe Ludwig TXA <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Kicker Keith Woods CLE <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Defensive End Kennedy Samuels MIA <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Defensive End B.J. Aguillard OAK <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Defensive Tackle Albert Glenn TBY <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Defensive Tackle Robert Renfro NYK <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Inside Linebacker Stanley Stokes NOS <o:p></o:p>
**All-League First Team Outside Linebacker Shaun Abrams TXA <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Outside Linebacker Wally Gonzalez PHI <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Cornerback Bryan Stablein TEN <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Cornerback Arnold Norris SFO <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Safety Winston Greene PIT <o:p></o:p>
All-League First Team Safety Winston Gaynor IND <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Quarterback Antonio Mahon CAR <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Running Back Bryan Westbrook ARI <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Fullback Horace Tatum DAL <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Tight End Roger Lucas NED <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Wide Receiver Nicky Roberts NYK <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Wide Receiver Dustin Voncannon MIA <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Center Stan Turner STL <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Offensive Guard Mark Wright DEN <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Offensive Guard George Wojdylo ARI <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Offensive Tackle J.J. Ohle CHI <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Offensive Tackle Andre Silvan NED <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Punter Jackie Rawson WAS <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Kicker Kelvin Morris NYK <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Defensive End Billy Emmons DAL <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Defensive End Frankie Burroughs CLE <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Defensive Tackle Courtney Heinlein MIA <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Defensive Tackle Jonathan Simoneau DET <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Inside Linebacker Roman Alexander SEA <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Outside Linebacker Harry Gilmore DEN <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Outside Linebacker Earnest Kelly NJY <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Cornerback Anthony Terry TBY <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Cornerback Jeremy Wolf MIA <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Safety Artie Berlioz BAL <o:p></o:p>
All-League Second Team Safety Earnest Powell CAR <o:p></o:p>
League's Fastest Man Alan McCormick NJY <o:p></o:p>
League's Strongest Man Donnell Eccles STL
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:24 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">Texarkana Armadillos Player Report</td> </tr> <tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">(GT2008d-postcamp - GT2008e-end)</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td class="headr">Name</td><td class="headr">Pos</td><td class="headr">GT2008d-postcamp Current</td><td class="headr">GT2008d-postcamp Future</td><td class="headr">GT2008e-end Current</td><td class="headr">GT2008e-end Future</td><td class="headr">Overall Current Change</td><td class="headr">Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Howard</td><td>QB</td><td>23</td><td>28</td><td>25 (2)</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schultz, Leslie</td><td>QB</td><td>16</td><td>30</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Tellez, Stan</td><td>QB</td><td>12</td><td>52</td><td>21 (9)</td><td>52 (0)</td><td>9</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Waite, Hugh</td><td>QB</td><td>14</td><td>47</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Aranda, Marc</td><td>RB</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Garland, Marlon</td><td>RB</td><td>24</td><td>25</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Greene, Anthony</td><td>RB</td><td>32</td><td>46</td><td>35 (3)</td><td>46 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Marlin, Norm</td><td>RB</td><td>23</td><td>39</td><td>23 (0)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Terry, Graham</td><td>RB</td><td>31</td><td>42</td><td>33 (2)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Foreman, Zack</td><td>FB</td><td>25</td><td>43</td><td>28 (3)</td><td>43 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>McDaniel, Phillip</td><td>FB</td><td>16</td><td>34</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Diaz, Eric</td><td>TE</td><td>61</td><td>61</td><td>61 (0)</td><td>61 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Holmes, Harvey</td><td>TE</td><td>58</td><td>65</td><td>63 (5)</td><td>63 (-2)</td><td>5</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lang, Johnnie</td><td>TE</td><td>35</td><td>51</td><td>38 (3)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cushing, Roosevelt</td><td>FL</td><td>27</td><td>44</td><td>35 (8)</td><td>44 (0)</td><td>8</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Fabbrizzi, Dennis</td><td>FL</td><td>15</td><td>30</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Kramer, Frankie</td><td>FL</td><td>26</td><td>26</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Markiewicz, Artie</td><td>FL</td><td>18</td><td>34</td><td>25 (7)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>7</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ballard, Burt</td><td>SE</td><td>39</td><td>61</td><td>50 (11)</td><td>61 (0)</td><td>11</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hall, Daniel</td><td>SE</td><td>29</td><td>31</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>30 (-1)</td><td>1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Woodson, Grady</td><td>SE</td><td>24</td><td>24</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pascal, Marco</td><td>LG</td><td>37</td><td>70</td><td>53 (16)</td><td>70 (0)</td><td>16</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wallace, Bert</td><td>LG</td><td>13</td><td>52</td><td>20 (7)</td><td>52 (0)</td><td>7</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Warren, Tarlos</td><td>LG</td><td>20</td><td>36</td><td>22 (2)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Yardley, Carlton</td><td>LG</td><td>18</td><td>38</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Aiston, Sherman</td><td>RG</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bickler, Jonathan</td><td>LT</td><td>56</td><td>84</td><td>63 (7)</td><td>84 (0)</td><td>7</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hindman, Jason</td><td>LT</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>21</td><td>30</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wilkins, Kyle</td><td>LT</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cote, Bruce</td><td>RT</td><td>11</td><td>11</td><td>11 (0)</td><td>11 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>DeLamielleure, Kent</td><td>RT</td><td>32</td><td>33</td><td>38 (6)</td><td>38 (5)</td><td>6</td><td>5</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hindman, Jason</td><td>RT</td><td>21</td><td>31</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Whiting, Neil</td><td>K</td><td>52</td><td>55</td><td>57 (5)</td><td>57 (2)</td><td>5</td><td>2</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ludwig, Billy</td><td>P</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>39 (3)</td><td>39 (3)</td><td>3</td><td>3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Abrams, Terry</td><td>LDE</td><td>22</td><td>34</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Tyler, Rusty</td><td>LDE</td><td>16</td><td>27</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Zimmerman, Amos</td><td>LDE</td><td>33</td><td>63</td><td>38 (5)</td><td>63 (0)</td><td>5</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bobo, Artie</td><td>NT</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Corwin</td><td>NT</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Forbes, Julio</td><td>NT</td><td>32</td><td>32</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Szymanski, Wendell</td><td>NT</td><td>33</td><td>52</td><td>42 (9)</td><td>42 (-10)</td><td>9</td><td>-10</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Altuna, Albert</td><td>RDE</td><td>40</td><td>40</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lopes, Brant</td><td>RDE</td><td>21</td><td>61</td><td>28 (7)</td><td>61 (0)</td><td>7</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Abrams, Shaun</td><td>SLB</td><td>18</td><td>34</td><td>22 (4)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Crumley, Rickey</td><td>SILB</td><td>24</td><td>54</td><td>34 (10)</td><td>54 (0)</td><td>10</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Knoll, Leland</td><td>SILB</td><td>23</td><td>35</td><td>35 (12)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>12</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Polko, Kevin</td><td>SILB</td><td>34</td><td>38</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dux, Brett</td><td>WILB</td><td>38</td><td>59</td><td>55 (17)</td><td>59 (0)</td><td>17</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Samuels, Lamont</td><td>WILB</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Belanger, Grady</td><td>WLB</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pinero, Rufus</td><td>WLB</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Gerak, Howie</td><td>LCB</td><td>38</td><td>38</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hickman, Carlos</td><td>LCB</td><td>19</td><td>34</td><td>24 (5)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>5</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dole, Tito</td><td>RCB</td><td>18</td><td>29</td><td>21 (3)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schiller, Percy</td><td>RCB</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Spearman, Nicky</td><td>RCB</td><td>20</td><td>21</td><td>20 (0)</td><td>20 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Curtin, Winston</td><td>SS</td><td>16</td><td>46</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>46 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Steidl, Deion</td><td>SS</td><td>21</td><td>47</td><td>25 (4)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Clements, Heath</td><td>FS</td><td>21</td><td>42</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dawkins, Dale</td><td>FS</td><td>15</td><td>33</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wolfe, Shannon</td><td>FS</td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:25 AM
I have no idea why C El Nino is not showing up on these summaries... anyone spot other players missing?
Narcizo
11-14-2006, 07:28 AM
Did we switch him from another position? If he was a guard in the "d" file then he won't show up.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:30 AM
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">Texarkana Armadillos Player Report</td> </tr> <tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td colspan="2" class="qbname">(GT2008e-end - GT2009a-start)</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr class="catbck" align="center"> <td class="headr">Name</td><td class="headr">Pos</td><td class="headr">GT2008e-end Current</td><td class="headr">GT2008e-end Future</td><td class="headr">GT2009a-start Current</td><td class="headr">GT2009a-start Future</td><td class="headr">Overall Current Change</td><td class="headr">Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Howard</td><td>QB</td><td>25</td><td>28</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>25 (-3)</td><td>0</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schultz, Leslie</td><td>QB</td><td>16</td><td>30</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Tellez, Stan</td><td>QB</td><td>21</td><td>52</td><td>21 (0)</td><td>52 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Greene, Anthony</td><td>RB</td><td>35</td><td>46</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>45 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Marlin, Norm</td><td>RB</td><td>23</td><td>39</td><td>23 (0)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Terry, Graham</td><td>RB</td><td>33</td><td>42</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Foreman, Zack</td><td>FB</td><td>28</td><td>43</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>42 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Diaz, Eric</td><td>TE</td><td>61</td><td>61</td><td>62 (1)</td><td>62 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Holmes, Harvey</td><td>TE</td><td>63</td><td>63</td><td>63 (0)</td><td>63 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lang, Johnnie</td><td>TE</td><td>38</td><td>51</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cushing, Roosevelt</td><td>FL</td><td>35</td><td>44</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>44 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Markiewicz, Artie</td><td>FL</td><td>25</td><td>34</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ballard, Burt</td><td>SE</td><td>50</td><td>61</td><td>50 (0)</td><td>61 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hall, Daniel</td><td>SE</td><td>30</td><td>30</td><td>31 (1)</td><td>31 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Woodson, Grady</td><td>SE</td><td>24</td><td>24</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pascal, Marco</td><td>LG</td><td>53</td><td>70</td><td>53 (0)</td><td>70 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wallace, Bert</td><td>LG</td><td>20</td><td>52</td><td>20 (0)</td><td>52 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Warren, Tarlos</td><td>LG</td><td>22</td><td>36</td><td>22 (0)</td><td>35 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Yardley, Carlton</td><td>LG</td><td>18</td><td>38</td><td>18 (0)</td><td>37 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Aiston, Sherman</td><td>RG</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bickler, Jonathan</td><td>LT</td><td>63</td><td>84</td><td>63 (0)</td><td>83 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hindman, Jason</td><td>LT</td><td>21</td><td>30</td><td>21 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Cote, Bruce</td><td>RT</td><td>11</td><td>11</td><td>11 (0)</td><td>11 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>DeLamielleure, Kent</td><td>RT</td><td>38</td><td>38</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Whiting, Neil</td><td>K</td><td>57</td><td>57</td><td>57 (0)</td><td>57 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Ludwig, Billy</td><td>P</td><td>39</td><td>39</td><td>38 (-1)</td><td>38 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Zimmerman, Amos</td><td>LDE</td><td>38</td><td>63</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>63 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Bobo, Artie</td><td>NT</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>26 (1)</td><td>26 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Burks, Corwin</td><td>NT</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Forbes, Julio</td><td>NT</td><td>32</td><td>32</td><td>31 (-1)</td><td>31 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Szymanski, Wendell</td><td>NT</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Altuna, Albert</td><td>RDE</td><td>40</td><td>40</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Lopes, Brant</td><td>RDE</td><td>28</td><td>61</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>60 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Abrams, Shaun</td><td>SLB</td><td>22</td><td>34</td><td>22 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Booker, Doug</td><td>SLB</td><td>
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</pre></td><td>28</td><td>49</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Crumley, Rickey</td><td>SILB</td><td>34</td><td>54</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>54 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Knoll, Leland</td><td>SILB</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Polko, Kevin</td><td>SILB</td><td>34</td><td>38</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dux, Brett</td><td>WILB</td><td>55</td><td>59</td><td>55 (0)</td><td>59 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Samuels, Lamont</td><td>WILB</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Belanger, Grady</td><td>WLB</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Pinero, Rufus</td><td>WLB</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Gerak, Howie</td><td>LCB</td><td>38</td><td>38</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Hickman, Carlos</td><td>LCB</td><td>24</td><td>34</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Dole, Tito</td><td>RCB</td><td>21</td><td>29</td><td>21 (0)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Schiller, Percy</td><td>RCB</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Spearman, Nicky</td><td>RCB</td><td>20</td><td>20</td><td>20 (0)</td><td>20 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Curtin, Winston</td><td>SS</td><td>16</td><td>46</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>46 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Steidl, Deion</td><td>SS</td><td>25</td><td>47</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Clements, Heath</td><td>FS</td><td>23</td><td>42</td><td>23 (0)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr class="stats" align="center"> <td>Wolfe, Shannon</td><td>FS</td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:32 AM
I re-signed LB Abrams (before he recognized his big stats effort) and released RB Aranda before launching the new season.
Files have been sent up to the staff hiring stage. Last season, there wasn't much input here -- so we will wait a bit, but then move on. Anyhone who wants input into front office staff (other than calling for my firing, that is), now would be a good time to catch up and get your two cents in.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:34 AM
We have no retirements, but the new-look Doug Booker is a far cry from the guy we invested a first round pick in. We are really catching some bad breaks here.
I have no idea why C El Nino is not showing up on these summaries... anyone spot other players missing?
I've found him to be pretty unpredictable.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:36 AM
We also need to contemplate a player to send to the European league... any thoughts there? Sounds like it's best used on a guy who is going to see major playing time in this coming season.
Maybe DE Zimmerman or Lopes? QB Stan Tellez? G Bert Wallace?
Warhammer
11-14-2006, 07:42 AM
I'd say Tellez is the one to send, we need a good QB.
A few thoughts on the offense, which style of WCO are we modelling this on? Philadelphia runs a WCO and they go downfield a bit, out to the 12-15 yard range on throws. The San Fran offense of the 80s kept everything 10 yards and in from what I remember. Just something to think about.
The other part is the formations, when I think of WCO I think Pro formations and single back sets. You're also throwing close to 60% of the time in normal situations, are we approaching this?
Just some random thoughts.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 07:45 AM
I'd say Tellez is the one to send, we need a good QB.
Not sure if that's a supported statement, or a self-contradicted one.
If we think Tellez is really a guy who can run this offense for the long haul, then I'd certainly agree to send him. If we think that we really need to invest in a *good* QB, then maybe Tellez slides to be our backup this year, and investing in his development would be a waste.
Personally, I'm hoping there's a monster QB in this draft, and that we can just use the 1.1 pick and lock down that position. I'm thinking we need to really, really work on the offense right away.
Barkeep49
11-14-2006, 07:47 AM
I have no real qualms with our HC although I think we can do much better at the other staff positions and don't see a reason to constrain ourselves with house rules there.
I think I'd send Zimmerman since he has the most upside, but any of the guys mentioned would probably be fine to send over.
Not sure if that's a supported statement, or a self-contradicted one.
If we think Tellez is really a guy who can run this offense for the long haul, then I'd certainly agree to send him. If we think that we really need to invest in a *good* QB, then maybe Tellez slides to be our backup this year, and investing in his development would be a waste.
Personally, I'm hoping there's a monster QB in this draft, and that we can just use the 1.1 pick and lock down that position. I'm thinking we need to really, really work on the offense right away.
If there is a monster QB, I'd support taking him. As is, I'm in a toss up between Tellez and Zimmerman.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 08:01 AM
Interesting issue looming for free agency. Arizona has stud RB Bryan Westbrook without a contract - I'm guessing they tag him again to keep him around.
Whoever they tag, the Cards are going to see a number of quality free agents departing for the open market. Among them, most notably for us, might be 14th year QB Lewis Woodson -- our scout rates him 61/61 overall, with strong ratings in key areas fore a short passing offense:
http://www.fof-ihof.com/upload/QuikSand/qbwoodson.jpg
If we are interested in seeing any kind of results on the field, this is probably a guy we have to consider very seriously. Certainly just a patch-over, but with an offense in as terrible shape as ours, and short-term cap space out the wazoo, he'd make an awful lot of sense.
Barkeep49
11-14-2006, 08:01 AM
Also, unless there is a Peyton Manning player I would be in favor dumping the first pick.
Barkeep49
11-14-2006, 08:03 AM
Considering that our WRs seem to be among our growth players, looking at ratings jumps, I think a good QB and a gameplan modification could yield HUGE offensive improvements. So, in other words, I would not be opposed to signing Woodson.
I'd say Tellez is the one to send, we need a good QB.
A few thoughts on the offense, which style of WCO are we modelling this on? Philadelphia runs a WCO and they go downfield a bit, out to the 12-15 yard range on throws. The San Fran offense of the 80s kept everything 10 yards and in from what I remember. Just something to think about.
The other part is the formations, when I think of WCO I think Pro formations and single back sets. You're also throwing close to 60% of the time in normal situations, are we approaching this?
Just some random thoughts.
The plan I put in last night was more San Fran style. Used mostly short throws and used the pass in place of the run quite a bit.
Formations were skewed towards mostly pro sets and single back but with 2 TEs a fair amount as well.
I definitely think we need to use the 11-15 yard pass more than we have been.
It's hard to say if the current plan is any good or not since we really don't have the personnel we want yet. I would agree with Quik that if we used an AI plan, we probably have 3-4 wins.
Woodson looks like a very short term solution for us. Shurg, if we want to go that route, we could probably sign another 4-5 veterans as well.
Don't have time this morning to look at coaches. I do think we need to keep an open eye for a new DC type to show up.
Barkeep49
11-14-2006, 08:07 AM
Woodson looks like a very short term solution for us. Shurg, if we want to go that route, we could probably sign another 4-5 veterans as well.
I'm only for it because I think it might also help our WRs achieve THEIR full potential.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 08:09 AM
Woodson looks like a very short term solution for us. Shurg, if we want to go that route, we could probably sign another 4-5 veterans as well.
Well, due to the initial allocation draft, there just hasn't been much significant talent in open free agency in this career, so we haven't been all that tempted. The only good free agents have been the neglected RFAs, which we decided not to exploit.
I'm fine if we deliberartely decide to just build from within... but if we're open to veteran additions, this will probably be the first year where we have multiple real quality players to choose from.
Warhammer
11-14-2006, 08:12 AM
One of the things I am very interested in with the new version is if you can get by with an average QB. If we get a great 80/80 QB are we really going to learn anything about the passing game? If we can make things work with a 52/52 guy, that's a completely different animal.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 08:15 AM
I thinkk we are pretty far away from having to worry about whether our talent level (at QB or anywhere else) is too good to let us draw any conclusions.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 08:46 AM
I'd be interested in hiring Derri Merrim as our head coach.
(Anyone think there might be a weird truncation bug with staff names? Derri, Andr, and Samm all show up quickly, and all three look like they might have lost the last letter of the first name)
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 09:25 AM
I hired Derri Merrim as our head coach, and Will Montgomery as our DC, who looks a bit better than our previous DC.
I sen DE Lopes to the summer league - he seems to have more unrealized potential than Zimmerman.
I declined to use the franchise tag on anyone -- TE Holmes and LB Pinero were the obvious candidates, but we have plenty of cap space to pursue them if we choose to do so, without a loyalty hit.
Texarkana Armadillos Player Report
(GT2009a-start - GT2009b-startFA)
<table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos</td><td>GT2009a-start Current</td><td>GT2009a-start Future</td><td>GT2009b-startFA Current</td><td>GT2009b-startFA Future</td><td>Overall Current Change</td><td>Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr><td>Burks, Howard</td><td>QB</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>23 (-2)</td><td>23 (-2)</td><td>-2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Schultz, Leslie</td><td>QB</td><td>16</td><td>30</td><td>23 (7)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>7</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Tellez, Stan</td><td>QB</td><td>21</td><td>52</td><td>27 (6)</td><td>42 (-10)</td><td>6</td><td>-10</td></tr><tr><td>Greene, Anthony</td><td>RB</td><td>35</td><td>45</td><td>34 (-1)</td><td>39 (-6)</td><td>-1</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Marlin, Norm</td><td>RB</td><td>23</td><td>39</td><td>24 (1)</td><td>34 (-5)</td><td>1</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Terry, Graham</td><td>RB</td><td>33</td><td>42</td><td>36 (3)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Foreman, Zack</td><td>FB</td><td>28</td><td>42</td><td>35 (7)</td><td>41 (-1)</td><td>7</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Diaz, Eric</td><td>TE</td><td>62</td><td>62</td><td>61 (-1)</td><td>61 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Holmes, Harvey</td><td>TE</td><td>63</td><td>63</td><td>64 (1)</td><td>64 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Lang, Johnnie</td><td>TE</td><td>38</td><td>51</td><td>46 (8)</td><td>50 (-1)</td><td>8</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Cushing, Roosevelt</td><td>FL</td><td>35</td><td>44</td><td>33 (-2)</td><td>39 (-5)</td><td>-2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Markiewicz, Artie</td><td>FL</td><td>25</td><td>34</td><td>61 (36)</td><td>61 (27)</td><td>36</td><td>27</td></tr><tr><td>Ballard, Burt</td><td>SE</td><td>50</td><td>61</td><td>48 (-2)</td><td>58 (-3)</td><td>-2</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Hall, Daniel</td><td>SE</td><td>31</td><td>31</td><td>30 (-1)</td><td>30 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Woodson, Grady</td><td>SE</td><td>24</td><td>24</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Pascal, Marco</td><td>LG</td><td>53</td><td>70</td><td>59 (6)</td><td>68 (-2)</td><td>6</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Wallace, Bert</td><td>LG</td><td>20</td><td>52</td><td>30 (10)</td><td>46 (-6)</td><td>10</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Warren, Tarlos</td><td>LG</td><td>22</td><td>35</td><td>25 (3)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Yardley, Carlton</td><td>LG</td><td>18</td><td>37</td><td>22 (4)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>4</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Aiston, Sherman</td><td>RG</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Bickler, Jonathan</td><td>LT</td><td>63</td><td>83</td><td>77 (14)</td><td>83 (0)</td><td>14</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hindman, Jason</td><td>LT</td><td>21</td><td>30</td><td>27 (6)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>6</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Cote, Bruce</td><td>RT</td><td>11</td><td>11</td><td>12 (1)</td><td>12 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>DeLamielleure, Kent</td><td>RT</td><td>39</td><td>39</td><td>34 (-5)</td><td>34 (-5)</td><td>-5</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Whiting, Neil</td><td>K</td><td>57</td><td>57</td><td>52 (-5)</td><td>52 (-5)</td><td>-5</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Ludwig, Billy</td><td>P</td><td>38</td><td>38</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>-4</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Zimmerman, Amos</td><td>LDE</td><td>38</td><td>63</td><td>47 (9)</td><td>60 (-3)</td><td>9</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Bobo, Artie</td><td>NT</td><td>26</td><td>26</td><td>24 (-2)</td><td>24 (-2)</td><td>-2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Burks, Corwin</td><td>NT</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Forbes, Julio</td><td>NT</td><td>31</td><td>31</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Szymanski, Wendell</td><td>NT</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td>40 (-2)</td><td>40 (-2)</td><td>-2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Altuna, Albert</td><td>RDE</td><td>40</td><td>40</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lopes, Brant</td><td>RDE</td><td>28</td><td>60</td><td>34 (6)</td><td>53 (-7)</td><td>6</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Abrams, Shaun</td><td>SLB</td><td>22</td><td>34</td><td>38 (16)</td><td>38 (4)</td><td>16</td><td>4</td></tr><tr><td>Booker, Doug</td><td>SLB</td><td>28</td><td>49</td><td>25 (-3)</td><td>39 (-10)</td><td>-3</td><td>-10</td></tr><tr><td>Crumley, Rickey</td><td>SILB</td><td>34</td><td>54</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>49 (-5)</td><td>0</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Knoll, Leland</td><td>SILB</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>39 (4)</td><td>39 (4)</td><td>4</td><td>4</td></tr><tr><td>Polko, Kevin</td><td>SILB</td><td>34</td><td>38</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Dux, Brett</td><td>WILB</td><td>55</td><td>59</td><td>50 (-5)</td><td>56 (-3)</td><td>-5</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Samuels, Lamont</td><td>WILB</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>40 (-1)</td><td>40 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Belanger, Grady</td><td>WLB</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>32 (-1)</td><td>32 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Pinero, Rufus</td><td>WLB</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>46 (-1)</td><td>46 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Gerak, Howie</td><td>LCB</td><td>38</td><td>38</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Hickman, Carlos</td><td>LCB</td><td>24</td><td>34</td><td>23 (-1)</td><td>30 (-4)</td><td>-1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Dole, Tito</td><td>RCB</td><td>21</td><td>29</td><td>20 (-1)</td><td>25 (-4)</td><td>-1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Schiller, Percy</td><td>RCB</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Spearman, Nicky</td><td>RCB</td><td>20</td><td>20</td><td>24 (4)</td><td>24 (4)</td><td>4</td><td>4</td></tr><tr><td>Curtin, Winston</td><td>SS</td><td>16</td><td>46</td><td>20 (4)</td><td>38 (-8)</td><td>4</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Steidl, Deion</td><td>SS</td><td>25</td><td>47</td><td>23 (-2)</td><td>41 (-6)</td><td>-2</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Clements, Heath</td><td>FS</td><td>23</td><td>42</td><td>21 (-2)</td><td>34 (-8)</td><td>-2</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Wolfe, Shannon</td><td>FS</td><td>51</td><td>51</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>51 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 09:26 AM
Welcome to the team's long term plans, Artie!
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 09:27 AM
Nice +4 bumps in potential from our three defensive creepers, too.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 09:35 AM
Right now, I think we have several young players who are really worth building around:
LT Bickler
WR Markiewicz
WR Ballard
DE Zimmerman
LB Abrams
LB Knoll
LB Dux
This isn't an awful foundation -- of course, it would be better if we had a stud LB and a monster DT to go along with them, too.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 09:36 AM
...and you'll never guess what's staring us in the face as a pretty clear #1 pick overall for this draft. A great-looking DT. *sigh*
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 09:43 AM
If you're curious, go have a quick look at QB Bruce Carter, who got drafted at 5.14 by the Bills last year. He's now rated 46/56 overall, and his skills have morphed into a perfect match for a short-passing gameplan. (Though his accuracy is still his low point, a 45 isn't quite as bad as the apparent near-void we saw on draft day)
Learning... was there a way to really know this guy would get good? I lobiied halfheartedly for him, mostly because he was fast... but I really had no idea he'd turn into a serious player like this. Started 11 games as a rookie, and put up *far* better stats than anything we have seen on this team. *shurg*
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 09:54 AM
Here is our new logo if you guys like it:
http://www.prodeportes.com/fof2k7/logos/fictional/armadillos.bmp
Quoted for ease of re-patching.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 10:18 AM
Whoever they tag, the Cards are going to see a number of quality free agents departing for the open market. Among them, most notably for us, might be 14th year QB Lewis Woodson -- our scout rates him 61/61 overall, with strong ratings in key areas fore a short passing offense:
Never mind... teh Cards tagged the QB, and left their RB to fend for himself in free agency, among others.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 10:24 AM
We probably need to make a decision about veteran free agents, as a matter of philosophy.
If we are trying to play for the betterment of the team at any coast, then there are several guys we would certainly want to pursue. But doing so would certainly dent this mostly-empty-cupboard experiment we are undergoing with many young players, and I think that would be a loss.
I'm open to going either way, but I'm seeing several impact free agents out there who could turn this team in a very different direction very quickly.
Narcizo
11-14-2006, 10:30 AM
Welcome to the team's long term plans, Artie!
:cool:
I rule.
And it looks like Abrams might not actually be a bug after all.
I think there's probably a lot of great players hiding in the lower end of the draft but poor scouting means that no-one will ever find them - you need to be prepared to use playing time on them.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 10:40 AM
:cool:
I rule.
And it looks like Abrams might not actually be a bug after all.
I think there's probably a lot of great players hiding in the lower end of the draft but poor scouting means that no-one will ever find them - you need to be prepared to use playing time on them.
You get all the credit for your man Artie, as far as I'm concerned. Glad you took the time to track that patch of guys.
The other two I signed, I'm pretty sure, but I confess they were just picked up based on curretn ratings and their affinity signs -- nothing too complicated there.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 10:48 AM
For affinity purposes, assuming we decide to stick with our stremlined system there, it looks like we'll need to re-sign RB Aranda -- there's nobody else in the right affinity group who fits the bill there. And he limits the range of veterans we could sign -- including ruling out Westbrook, the best player in the entire market.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Okay then. Absent any broad input, I may go ahead and do a first round of rookie intereviews, like I did last season -- I'll do 40-45 of them, and will leave some space for anyone else who looks intriguing afterward.
I won't make any serious FA offers, as we are (I judge) still in limbo about whether we want to go after serious veterans. (We actually have done so up to this point, but have been restrained not by a rule by rather by a shortage of quality additions) I may note a few guys who would make appropriate additions if we want to go down that path.
I'll do some interviews, and perhaps advance a few stages, and send out a new file in time for the evening crowd. This seems like a pretty important point in our decision-making, so I don't want to rush things -- it's just tough to judge whether the silence is a result of people not being interested, or just not being available.
I'll try to get the fairly straightforward stuff out of the way, so we can focus on our big decisions -- Draft at 1.1? If so, whom? Trade down? Trade for a veteran player? Sign big money free agents?
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 01:52 PM
LB Rickey Crumley got a good deal of playing time last year (56 tackles on 727 plays), and seems to be developing nicely. If we are fairly committed to the "build from within" philosophy, perhaps it's time to give him a starting job -- like the weak-side LB job, in place of older veteran Pinero.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 02:03 PM
Looking at what we have on hand, it seems to me that a coverage scheme of primarily BNR, with some MTM is the best fit for what we have on hand. The only DB who really doesn't fit with that scheme is CB Perdcy Schiller, who was inactive all last seaosn anyway. S Wolfe isn't ideal there, but he's a decent all around player and a strong affinity, and at safety we don't have a lot to work with as it stands.
Let's have that guide us generally as we evaluate DBs, which I think we definitely have to do for this draft class. We coule *really* use an impact improvement in our secondary.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Unrestricted free agents:
TE/FB Harvey Holmes
LB Rufus Pinero (OLB mentor)
LB Lamont Samuels (affinity)
LB Kevin Polko (ILB mentor)
RG Sherman Aiston
NT Juulio Forbes (affinity)
If anyone on this list is a priorntiy for us to keep, make it known now, before we sim ahead into the free agent market, where they might get other offers.
I'd be inclined to try to keep Pinero at least, and perhaps Polko as well -- our young LB corps can use all the help it can get in developing, and both guys are good enough to play, at least on this team.
I actively want Holmes off the team and out of the business of sucking up so many passes... but I feel I'm in the minority there. We do have two good young tight ends, though, both of whom have affinities with our WR/TE leader.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 02:11 PM
New file sent. I did about 40 interviews with logical candidates, and advanced past the reneg stage so we can at least see what free agents are demanding.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 02:28 PM
If we decide that we want to pursue targeted veterans for this team, here are some thoughts:
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QB Sammie Fleming is a standout at the “timing” skill, which supposedly leads to YAC, which this team desperately needs. Decent other ratings, and he’d be a triple affinity (though it might not even register, since his personality rating is so low).
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QB Glen Tygart is a mentor, a triple affinity guy, and would be a suitable backup – he has a good timing rating also, though his short passing skills are suspect.
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WR Austin Heinrich would be an impact third WR for us, playing in the slot – mentor and affinity guy. Comes off a big injury, though. Similar goes for WR Brant Cooksey.
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LT Andy Winters would give us a guy worthy of starting at RT, or more likely as a solid backup to both starting tackles – and a strong affinity
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CB Jeff Henry would be a starting-caliber addition to our coverage team, strong in BNR (87) and loose man (61), plus he’d have a position affinity with our leader Gerak. Injury risk, though.
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CB Anthony Terry has no affinity, but would be our best DB immediately upon signing, strong run stopper and very good in our coverages. Personality is a red flag.
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Not exactly a revolution, as there are downsides to nearly all these guys – but if we want to tread in, these are guys we ought to look at.
QuikSand
11-14-2006, 03:57 PM
So, I'm trying to look at Artie the Smarty, and figure out what we make of him now, with the new light being shed on the meaning of red/green bars and the "experience level:" rating. Artie is rated 61/61 by our scout now, with hardly any green showuing above his current red bars. But in his experience picture, I see him being only about 50% developed.
I guess that means that when we condier his current ability, it's more or less like he's an old-style 30/60 player, who would still have had a lot of green left in his bars, and not so much red.
At least, that's one theory. Still a dynamite player, but it does appear that the patch application had a lot to do with his gigantic change in ratings.
I don't know if these issues are what's causing the silence here. Maybe we've just run out of steam with the daytime crowd. I'd be glad if someone wanted to do some stages this evening... I have certainly said enough already with my octodola or whatever it's up to now.
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