Salary Cap bug

[Bode]

I posted this in the bug thread, but wanted to post it here too in case other players could add more to help solesmic fix this bug. This is happening in version 6.0d.

Ok. I started a new career with version 6.0d. There are still some major problems with the AI's salary management. This is 10 years into the game, and while this is the worst case so far, it's happening to at least 1 team every year.

Right now the salary cap in my year 2017 is $146,600,000.
Here is Dallas cap lost next year $166,230,000.
Here is their cap used next year $218,290,000.

This happened because Dallas released a bunch of draft picks from previous seasons who became break out stars. Why they released them I do not know. They did this after the rookie draft. In the second phase of free agency.

I believe this issue was thought to have been solved, but it appears to still be a major issue. This appears like it will be a game breaking issue. I have no idea what will happen next year when Dallas starts the season $10,500,000 over the salary cap in lost cap space. It will just make the problem worse for them if they release players.

[PSUColonel]

Anyone else see this problem? This sounds pretty serious if true.

[Front Office Midget]

Not with 6.0d yet, but I have only run a few seasons.

[Havok]

i've not see anything that extreme, but i still see SERIOUS AI salary cap problems.

10th year WR's getting 4 year deals with huge signing bonuses for example.


My salary cap is at 114 million right now and on dam near every team there are some WTF roster things going on. I look though most teams and it seems like 50% of their cap room is tied up in 2-3 players most of the time. I've seen LT's with a roster hit of over 20 million and like 16 million of it being bonus money.

more examples

Indy has a 57/57 10th year guard making 14.5 million a year for the next 2 years. And over 9 million of that per season is bonus money. No guard that i know of makes anywhere near that.

Tennessee has an 8th 73/73 RB with 5 years left on his contract for around 87 million. 53 million of it is bonus money. They also have a 71/71 9th year guard making 16 million a season for 2 more years. 9 million a year in bonus money.

STL - 8th year 77/77 QB just signed a 5 year 159 million dollar extention. They will now be hit with 128 million in bonus money over the next 5 years. 28 million against the cap this season, 22 next season, then it jumps to 36 million, 38 million and like 41 million againts the cap. Your talking 1/4 to 1/3 of your TOTAL cap space for 1 guy.

ARI - Matt Leinert currently costs 45 million vs the cap this season. Thats over 1/3 of their cap space.

Cle just resigned a 7th year 58/58 CB for 6 years 57 million. He now has 40 million in bonus money over 6 years. 91 run defense, 46 m2m, 69 zone, 48, bnr, 40 play dia, 66 int, 45 endurance. Thats hardly worth that kind of money in my opinion.


anyway im just giving a few examples, these were the only teams i looked at and every one i found some problems. Remember im in 2018 but the salary cap is only 114 million.

[Axxon]

i've not see anything that extreme, but i still see SERIOUS AI salary cap problems.

10th year WR's getting 4 year deals with huge signing bonuses for example.


My salary cap is at 114 million right now and on dam near every team there are some WTF roster things going on. I look though most teams and it seems like 50% of their cap room is tied up in 2-3 players most of the time. I've seen LT's with a roster hit of over 20 million and like 16 million of it being bonus money.

more examples

Indy has a 57/57 10th year guard making 14.5 million a year for the next 2 years. And over 9 million of that per season is bonus money. No guard that i know of makes anywhere near that.

Tennessee has an 8th 73/73 RB with 5 years left on his contract for around 87 million. 53 million of it is bonus money. They also have a 71/71 9th year guard making 16 million a season for 2 more years. 9 million a year in bonus money.

STL - 8th year 77/77 QB just signed a 5 year 159 million dollar extention. They will now be hit with 128 million in bonus money over the next 5 years. 28 million against the cap this season, 22 next season, then it jumps to 36 million, 38 million and like 41 million againts the cap. Your talking 1/4 to 1/3 of your TOTAL cap space for 1 guy.

ARI - Matt Leinert currently costs 45 million vs the cap this season. Thats over 1/3 of their cap space.

Cle just resigned a 7th year 58/58 CB for 6 years 57 million. He now has 40 million in bonus money over 6 years. 91 run defense, 46 m2m, 69 zone, 48, bnr, 40 play dia, 66 int, 45 endurance. Thats hardly worth that kind of money in my opinion.


anyway im just giving a few examples, these were the only teams i looked at and every one i found some problems. Remember im in 2018 but the salary cap is only 114 million.

A lot of these are opinion calls. Heck, I'd kill for that last guy on my team. We have the cap room, two crappy CB's, nothing available in FA and the one guy we splashed the cash on has been doubtful for the last two seasons with arthritis.

I have 4 of my 5 starting OLINE that I started the game with and I'm in 2012. I'm afraid you'd consider my team busted too if you looked at their salaries but we were 15-1 last season and are currently 9-1 this one and still have cap space.

The QB with the 30 million dollar salary is insane but I felt insane when I signed my guy for 15 million a year for six years. I'd never have done that in 2k4 so I'm not really able to judge this accurately but...

my undrafted FA QB had to start the past 6 games for me since my stud went down for his first injury ever and he's 5-1 and number 4 in the league in QB rating. Maybe I am insane paying the first guy 15 million. :D

[Havok]

well whats your salary cap in 2012?? like i said mine is only 115 million so alot of those prices seem insane.

but your right... its an opinion thing i guess. Im just trying to base it somewhat on the NFL and while im no expert. I can't recall anyone forking out this kind of cash for over the hill guards, 30 year old RB's and then having QB's take up 1/3 of your cap space.

also like i said, those were the only teams i looked at. Im sure there is a hell of alot worse out there.

[Axxon]

i've not see anything that extreme, but i still see SERIOUS AI salary cap problems.

10th year WR's getting 4 year deals with huge signing bonuses for example.


Dola, I knew I'd forgotten the reason I posted in the first place.

I do this now since a retiree only counts two seasons as SB. If I can land/keep a stud player by gambling with a high SB that may not even count I'll consider it. I have a SLB who is a 10th year guy, still rated in the mid 70's ( though decling ) that I signed to a 4 year deal with a high SB. He's leading the team in tackles still and is worth the money. I've already factored in the price of cutting him in two years since I tend to have been running 5-10mil under the cap this career.

[Axxon]

well whats your salary cap in 2012?? like i said mine is only 115 million so alot of those prices seem insane.

but your right... its an opinion thing i guess. Im just trying to base it somewhat on the NFL and while im no expert. I can't recall anyone forking out this kind of cash for over the hill guards, 30 year old RB's and then having QB's take up 1/3 of your cap space.

also like i said, those were the only teams i looked at. Im sure there is a hell of alot worse out there.

I can't recall it being 2018 either. ;)

As I said, I agree about the QB.

I don't have the game since you can't put it on an external drive but that's about where my cap is. I'm using a fictional roster too.

I've noted a lot of guys I'd never spend the money that the AI is spending on in my career but since the patch no team has went through super cap hell and I've never won the superbowl so I'm happy with this career. I've seen the cap hell pre patch and it appears that it may be still happening which sucks but it was always more about the releasing of huge capped guys to get under the cap not overpaying, which I hope that Jim doesn't change because frankly, I'll over pay if the computer won't if I need the guy.

There's not enough quality FA's in my universe to build a super team and I like it. I've read threads where there still are. I'm glad I haven't hit it and I hope I don't either but until then, the computer is managing the cap in this career, kicking my butt come playoff time and keeping the better players making me groom my own which I've been doing well. :)

[Havok]

Wel this game still rocks.... i just think alittle bit more tweaking might be in order. Im VERY cheap when it comes to the salary cap so maybe thats why some of these prices seem crazy to me.

Guards for example are easy to draft/build. You can grab 2nd/3rd future studs all the time. I currently have a 8th year, 67/67 all-pro guard that im paying 3.8m a year. He wants a 3 year 13 million dollar extention which he will certainly get. My other guard is a 10th year 56/56 guard who's on the decline. He has 1 year left at 3.5 million then i'll dump him.

So while im paying 3.5 - 5 million for dam good guards, the computer is forking out 16 million a year for old slightly above average guards. Thats why i brought this up.

The only guy on my o-line that i throw serious money at is LT's. My current one is 71/71 and he's making around 9 million a year.