Signing players who's contracts expire at the end of the year

[flair1234]

It seems that you can only do this during the regular season, and that when you do you are effectively renogiating the contract for that year.

Is there an option I am missing that would allow to to negotiate with my existing players before the free agency period or to negotiate their to start the following year.

[Raiders Army]

You can do it in the playoffs as well. After the FOF Bowl is played, you can't renegotiate any more.

[GMO]

I would like that too, but you can renegotiate in FA period 1.

[TitansGuru]

I would like that too, but you can renegotiate in FA period 1.


Only with RFA's. If a player who becomes an UFA has their contract expire, he is open to test the market. Jim should add the ability to renegotiate these guys immediately after the season before their contracts are up. As it is now, the contracts expire at the end of the season which is not accurate.

[MizzouRah]

Seems more players in this version definitly want to test the FA market. I'm having pretty big turnover ratios so far compared to FOF 2k4

[QuikSand]

I think there becomes a too-wide exploit available if a player signed to a one-year deal can then "renegotiate" in the same year. Right now, players are already all too willing to accept one year deals, at least in many cases. Adding to that the ability to then have exclusive renagotiating rights would probably be too much of an incentive for silly one year deals.

It's true, in real life a team can call up any player, any time, and talk about any possible contract changes. In the game, the practical way to keep things manageable is to have some degree of restriction. One new contract per team, per year, doesn't seem unreasonable, and it curtails some meaningful potential abuses as well. I don't think it's a bad design decision, all told.

[MizzouRah]

I'm not complaining, it's made it harder for me to keep my team together and obviously.. Jim has to find ways to make the game more challenging, which in my book is a good thing.

[QuikSand]

And, for what it's worth (since the terms seem to be geting confused in this thread):

Re-negotiate = work out a new deal with a player who is under an existing contract with your team

Negotiate = offer a contract to a player not currently signed, and see if he rejects it, accepts it, or (if appropriate) waits to hear from other teams


When a veteran player was under contract with you, and the contract has since expired, he heads into the free agent period without a contract. Since stage 1 is for re-negotiations only, he will not entertain your offers then -- you will instead have to negottate with him in stage 2 and beyond, as part of the open market.

Hope that helps, in case there was confusion about all that.

[Narcizo]

I'm not complaining, it's made it harder for me to keep my team together and obviously.. Jim has to find ways to make the game more challenging, which in my book is a good thing.

Jim said something to the effect that he will be looking at the number of one year contacts being asked for by players on your team in an IHOF thread somewhere. Or other. I suspect it's not possible on Wall Street but on the normal level (and thus in MP leagues) it's possible to reneg those players to longer contracts fairly easy.

[MizzouRah]

Jim said something to the effect that he will be looking at the number of one year contacts being asked for by players on your team in an IHOF thread somewhere. Or other. I suspect it's not possible on Wall Street but on the normal level (and thus in MP leagues) it's possible to reneg those players to longer contracts fairly easy.

Interesting.

[TitansGuru]

Just to make sure that I wasn't misunderstood, because I might have been. I was just saying that there should be time after the bowl allotted to allow you to renegotiate with players on your team. For instance, I lost Pacman Jones before I realized that you have to renegotiate existing contracts before the bowl game. As far as renegotiating guys that have been signed to one year contracts, that's a whole different story.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

Jim said something to the effect that he will be looking at the number of one year contacts being asked for by players on your team in an IHOF thread somewhere. Or other. I suspect it's not possible on Wall Street but on the normal level (and thus in MP leagues) it's possible to reneg those players to longer contracts fairly easy.

This may be right. All of my starters in MP on one year deals are looking to up for 4-5 seasons.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

You can do it in the playoffs as well.

Yeah, but with the new version, this can be tricky since salary is already paid and so if you are right up against the cap it may not work for a certain player.

[mac]

I try to use up any cap space by resigning players in their last year just before the end of the season.
There is a slight loophole in that the players dont "realise" that they have been paid a full years salary so strange things happen like this

A player currently paid 2M this year and 4M next year will reject a renegotiated salary offering 3M this year and 3M next year. Even though he is actually recieiving a check for 1M and he might not recieve next year if he is cut.(I think in the NFL such a proceedure after week 10 would be counted as a signing bonus and prorated.)

On the other hand a good player currently making 4M might demand a five year contract with 10M bonus and salary of 1M,4M,4.5M,5M 5.5M . But as he has already been paid 4M it will cost you 4M (hence the hasmark in fof07. but if you increase year 1 to 4M and reduce the bonus by 2-3M he will usually accept even though you are offering him money he has already earned. This is reasonable behavior at the start of the season but makes no sense at the end of the season. I think the contrct model needs some kind of weekly clock.

A slightly related problem is that the salaries paid to players signed midseason is the same as that of players who play the full season which is wrong. e.g. If you have two players A and B on the minimum salary (say 340k) If you cut player B after week 10 you get back 140K (340- 10wX20k) but if you sign player C to replace him he gets the full 340k the same as A. It also means you cant sign C unless you have 340k in cap space. THis is a loophole that needs to be fixed.

While I'm rambling in the NFL 4th year players and older are guaranteed their salaries if they are cut in midseason. Also in the NFL I think you can only renegotiate a contract once a year so teams cant keep cutting your salary.