Great Combine QB

[TCY Junkie]

Had great combine (graded 8.0) including 99 in position drill. After camp had 56 for potential and starting second season had 28 for potential. I have never seen anything close to this. I fly through the seasons just to draft and my scout keeps putting him second or third string and I have to adjust my depth chart. I would sim the first week or two or three and every time I would have someone else starting because his rating is so low. I decided to change the position of the qbs in front of him. I know I could just change the global options to do the depth charts myself but I like to sim the whole season at a time. I will post his stats in a minute.


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[TCY Junkie]

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[Raiders Army]

What were his 40 time, bench press, shuttle, Solecismic test, etc.?

[RedKingGold]

Looks like he got smacked with the volitility stick (with a 99 volitility, not too much of a shock).

[TCY Junkie]

His solecismic test was 50. His other combines where all red and bars all full except for the bottom two. His adjusted was 9.2 and if the volitility caused the drop and keep dropping to rated 22 why has he performed much closer to his combines than the rated 22. He lead all rookies in each drill except for being 2nd in the 40 yard dash.

I was building a team for running when i noticed him and didn't even export the combine data but all his combines were off the charts (sad to say this but I got so excited I forgot to record his combines). I guess volitility made him not as good as his combines say, but he is no where near 22.

The extreme scouting error on this player and no way to correct it is by far my biggest complaint about this great game.

[Autumn]

FWIW, couldn't you lock his position in the depth chart?

[TCY Junkie]

When you have coach resets depth chart prior to each game marked yes, it overrides it and puts the higher rated guy first string. Like I said I like to get many seasons in and look at season and career records, that is why it becomes time consuming when the best guy you ever seen in a combine becomes a 22 rated guy and performs very good.

[Autumn]

So, if you check off the Lock checkbox, that doesn't count if you have it set to have the coach change depth chart? I didn't realize that, I always do my own. That's too bad, I assumed those checkboxes would be handy for someone in your position.

Did you try hiring a new scout?

There's also the possibility that he just performs well despite his ratings. I certainly see that a lot in my league. Still, it would be nice of the computer recognized that. What kind of performance have you seen out of the other QBs?

[TCY Junkie]

Changed scout from average to good in qb and i think he dropped from 26 to 22 potential. This was his third year when he was not fully developed.

Thes qb has 0's for medium and long passing, A little to much error I think, but I guess if you play long enough you see scouts make these kind of errors ( I just wish the would ADJUST their rating of him after seeing how he performs.

Also on depth charts, if you could lock him in and sim the season it would be nice but it might create problems if he gets injured. Thats the only thing I could think of with the depth chart lock.

[Ben E Lou]

How are your receivers?

This doesn't look like scouting error at all. It looks like, as RKG said, your guy took a massive ratings loss due to his volatility, and because you're the human player, he's putting up decent numbers because you probably have great receivers and cohesion.

[RedKingGold]

Looking at his stat's closely I think that what happened was:

1. When he was drafted, he was an 38/80 type of player
2. After TC, he got whacked with the volitility stick of death
3. After getting hit with the voltility stick, it usually changes to core rating/value of the player (perhaps he is now 26/55 or something like that)
4. Scout error causes him to look 24/24 when he is really 48/48 (approximate values)

Also, along with what SD said, if you have pretty good receivers, they can make a mediocre QB look like a pretty good QB.

[TCY Junkie]

Looking at his stat's closely I think that what happened was:

1. When he was drafted, he was an 38/80 type of player
2. After TC, he got whacked with the volitility stick of death
3. After getting hit with the voltility stick, it usually changes to core rating/value of the player (perhaps he is now 26/55 or something like that)
4. Scout error causes him to look 24/24 when he is really 48/48 (approximate values)

Also, along with what SD said, if you have pretty good receivers, they can make a mediocre QB look like a pretty good QB.


Very good receivers but the tight end and running back stink. The computer signed a qb rated 55 and i decided to stimulate a couple of times with him and my team was always under 500 and the qb rated about 80. I didn't simulate multiple times with good combine qb so maybe he has been lucky.
I agree with everything you said and think he performs between a 55 and 70 rated qb. Mainly I just want to be able to lock him in and sim his career. I guess I caught the worst ends of voltility and scouting error on the best combine guy I have seen thus making me want to be able to lock in a low rated guy and sim the season.

[beargrowlz]

he got whacked with the volitility stick of death

Nice turn of a phrase. I like.

[dj_morton]

Looks like he got smacked with the volitility stick (with a 99 volitility, not too much of a shock).

:D

[Yaguar]

I have an identical case.

Roger Staubach, drafted at 7/42 in the mid-first round, reaches 56/56 as he goes into the training camp before his fourth year. Comes out of it at 31/31, rated as the 60something-best QB in the league. Passes at his career-average rating anyway, which is third best all time, slightly under 100.

I'm wondering whether I can get an alleged "31/31" QB into the Hall of Fame.