WW LXXXI Highlander game thread ( D5 deadline 8:00 PM EST)

[Lathum]

There can be only one!!!!


Details to come, looking to start game 9/9 with roles to go out 9/8.

Will be a fairly straight forward game with some twists thrown in, everyone will have some sort of action each day.

There will be 2 deadlines, one for lynch @ 8:00 PM EST and one for night actions @ 11:00AM EST.

Rules will go up over the next couple of days

I will accept conditional deadline orders for people who may struggle with 2 times a day

[Lathum]

1. DaddyTorgo- killed in duel N3- highlander
2. Path12
3. NTNDeacon-killed in duel-highlander
4. AlanT- killed by wolves-N2-highlander
5. Narcizo- killed in a duel N1- highlander
6. Packerfanatic
7. Jackal
8. Saldana
9. Clap
10. Telle- killed in a duel N1- Ramirez
11. JEHeinze-lynched D4- Wolf
12. Mrs Schmidty- lynched day 1- wolf
13. Grammaticus-lynched-highlander
14. Illinifan- lynched day 2- highlander
15. Mustang-killed N4- Branda Wyatt
16. Barkeep-killed in duel-N4

[Lathum]

Werewolf Highlander- THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!

This is a semi- traditional game of werewolf. Every player is a highlander, a player in a mystical game where everyone is immortal. Many of you have lived hundreds of years and fought many battles with your sword.

The goal of the game is simple, be the last person alive. The only way you can be killed is by another highlander cutting off your head.

In addition to the roles listed below there will be wolves in the game wreaking havoc. The wolves are also highlanders and have all the individual win conditions and actions associated with that.

Game Cycles- For arguments sake each day in real life is a week in the game.

Day Actions- Traditional WW where each day a player is selected to be lynced. This takes place in NY city ( a location of signifigance later in the game). The deadline for this will be 8:00 PM EST.

There will be no ties and non voters will be punished. No lynch is not an option.

All roles will be revealed upon death.

Night Actions- Will be due by 11:00 AM EST- Wolves will submit their night target. In addition to that each player must select a city to travel to. The Cities are:

Seattle
Miami
San Fransisco
Dallas
Chicago
Boston
Washington DC
Philadelphia
Las Vegas


If you find yourself in the same city as another Highlander you will experience “the Quickining” An instinctive surge inside you that lets you know to get ready for battle. Once you engage in battle with another highlander the victor will absord the losers power, cut off their head, and the loser will be out of the game. Not all battles will result in death.

Battles

Each player will be assigned a strength number, simply put this is how strong you are. Numbers will range from 1-10

Each player will be given a speed number, each number will range 1-10.

Every player is given 30 power points to begin the game. Each night when you submit your location you must also submit the number of power points you wish to use.

The outcome of the duel will be determined by a players strength + speed+ power points. The player with the most points may win the duel. Certain outside factors may result in a draw. In the case of a draw the player does not get their power points used returned to them, so use them wisely. If a player does not duel they do not lose their power points for that night.

There will not be a duel every night for every player, outside factors may inhibit the quickening, based on what city you are currently in.
Once you defeat a player in a duel you then take control of their remaining power points.
If you are involved in 2 or more duels in a row you may find yourself tired.

EXAMPLE
Player A and Player B both find themselves in Dallas. Player A has a speed factor of 6 and a strength factor of 4. They use 4 power points for a total of 14.

Player B had a speed factor of 8 and a strength of 4. They use 6 power points for a total of 18. Barring any outside influence Player B will win the duel and take Player A’s remaining 26 points.




Non- Wolf Roles

Conner MacLeod- A wise, crafty , talented highlander. Can not be lynched.

Brenda Wyatt- The only non highlander in the game. You have excellent investigative skills and each night can scan one player to test their allegiance.


The Kurgan- You are the strongest, most powerfull Highlander. If lynched you may select one other player to take with you. If night attatcked you have an excellent chance of fighting off your attacker (s)

Ramirez- You are one of the oldest highlanders. You posses excellent sword skills and the ability to teach others. Each night you select one player to protect each night. You may not protect the same player 2 nights in a row. You may protect yourself.

All other players are elidgeable to be wolves.

Win conditions.

Ultimate win- Be the last remaining highlander alive. The final battle will be determined differently then all other battles and will require both parties to be online.

Minor Win- All wolves are eliminated from the game

Wolf Minor Victory- Eliminate all highlanders.

[DaddyTorgo]

OH FUCK YOU I AM SOOOOOOO IN

[path12]

Me too.

[path12]

Dola, I mean on the I'm in, not the oh fuck you.

[ntndeacon]

in as well

[Schmidty]

I'm in. I want to be the Kurgan (?).

[claphamsa]

sorry, smity, i called kurgen last night :D

[Narcizo]

Paternity leave and my course are over with so I'll give the stupid game another go. Deadlines probably won't be ideal but, hey, it can't get worse than the last time I played. One would assume/hope.

[PackerFanatic]

Sure, what the hey.

[RendeR]

In like a bad illness.

[The Jackal]

nice theme, i'm in

[saldana]

in

[saldana]

whoa..i just realized i am down about 400 posts

[Schmidty]

sorry, smity, i called kurgen last night :D

YOU HAVE NO PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!

[saldana]

apparently, werewolf posts no longer count on operations sports any longer

[Schmidty]

apparently, werewolf posts no longer count on operations sports any longer

That's fine, but I'd at least like to have a formal announcement.

[claphamsa]

oh yeah, I was at like 1300 last week now im back to 30 :)

[Telle]

I'm in.

[jeheinz72]

iNN

[claphamsa]

in fyi :P

[Lathum]

render is out obviously

[Schmidty]

render is out obviously

Why?

[Lathum]

Why?

he is boxed for a week

[saldana]

bump

lathum...maybe an OT thread announcement?

[Schmidty]

he is boxed for a week

Why?

[hoopsguy]

As far as I can tell, continued questioning of moderator decisions after the "asshatery" warning was posted.

[Mrs. Schmidty]

Sign me up :)

[Grammaticus]

Is there a cap on this game, is it too late to get in?

[Narcizo]

I suspect a cap would be higher than 12 people.

[Lathum]

room for more.

[illinifan999]

I'll play.

[Lathum]

OK, guys, Rules will go out later today and roles tonight so there is still tiime for signups

[saldana]

Is there a cap on this game, is it too late to get in?

wow...its been a while for you, hasn't it?

welcome back

[Mustang]

OK, guys, Rules will go out later today and roles tonight so there is still tiime for signups

If you have room or need a backup, jot me down.

[Lathum]

If you have room or need a backup, jot me down.

your in!

[claphamsa]

15 aint too bad!

lets GIT ER DUN!

[Lathum]

OK, rules are up.

Still room for more players.

If you have any questions or feel I left something out let me know.

Also please bare with me, this is the first complex game I have hosted.

[Barkeep49]

Looks intriguing. I'll play.

[PackerFanatic]

Sounds sweet. I are excite.

[Lathum]

OK, signups are closed and roles going out.

Remember, under no circumstances are you to discuss any part of your PM.

Everyone will receive the same generic pm that will read

You are a Highlander, a sword weilding being from an era long ago.

Speed-
Strength-
Current Power Points-

[claphamsa]

do we get a bonus for posting in a bad scottish brouge? I can do haiku in it!

[saldana]

checking in.

[claphamsa]

isnt it too ealry?

[saldana]

i got my pm....

[Lathum]

OK, all PM's are out. Get in touch with me if you have any questions.

FIRST DEADLINE IS 11:00 AM EST TOMORROW. WE BEGIN WITH A NIGHT PHASE!

Everyone must PM me their city location and how many power points to use.

[claphamsa]

checking in! vainila! boooo

[PackerFanatic]

GO PACK GO!

[path12]

I wish I could type with a Scottish accent. Checking in -- good to be playing again!

[Grammaticus]

wow...its been a while for you, hasn't it?

welcome back

Yeah, it has been a while. Thanks for the welcome.

Looks like I'm an average immortal joe in this one.

[Grammaticus]

So, since we are starting on a night phase, anybody know if the wolves get to take a night kill out of the gate?

[DaddyTorgo]

I HEREBY UNOFFICIALLY CLAIM THE ROLE OF METHOS!

[ntndeacon]

checking in as a Joe Schmo immortal

[PackerFanatic]

Yay Packers!

[Narcizo]

I wish I could type with a Scottish accent. Checking in -- good to be playing again!

Given Christopher Lambert's accent in the film I think any effort you make at a Scottish accent will be in keeping with the film. (Who thought having a Frenchman play a Scot while having a Scot playing an, erm, Ancient Egyptian was it was a great idea)?

Anyway, with a likely night kill and duel kill every night and a lynch every day this will probably be over pretty quickly. Not sure there's too much to discuss until after the first deadline. 16 players in 9 locations means something's going to happen tonight.

[claphamsa]

Ok, lets see some duels!

[jeheinz72]

Checking in, regular highlander, I have no idea what this is all about so excuse the naivete'

[ntndeacon]

I am wondering how many duels we have tonight.

[Lathum]

morning all. deadline in 15 minutes.

It will take me a few minutes to process everything so please bear with me

[Lathum]

deadline

[Lathum]

You arrive in New york, something weighing heavy on your mind. It is bad enough there are highlanders trying to cut off your head but now you must meet with them and address this new problem, wolves. No one could have seen this coming.

You arrive in St. PAtricks Cathedral and the rest of your enemies are there. No one is missing. After some discussion it is decided each night you must kill someone who is suspected of being a wolf. There will be no reward for this, it is not a kill with honor.

As you exit the church you decided to check the weather report for today, it looks like storms are coming.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/recreation/golf/local/USNY0996?from=enhsearch_reg

Day 1 has begun. Deadline 8:00 PM EST.

PM's will be going out to everyone after I walk my dog, feed my dog, medicate my dog, brush my teeth, feed my cat. clean the litter box and medicate my cat.

[jeheinz72]

4. Schmidty
7. Jackal
10. Telle
12. Mrs Schmidty
14. Illinifan
15. Mustang
16. Barkeep

Whole lotta people who we haven't heard from yet since PM's went out. I'll be holding off on dropping a vote for now, but I tend to look at this sort of thing on Day One.

[claphamsa]

yeah! bad no checkeriners

so no duels? I R confused!

[PackerFanatic]

checkeriners.

Great word.

[ntndeacon]

I am confused as well. I am hopeful we get back those points we spent tonight.

[jeheinz72]

I am confused as well. I am hopeful we get back those points we spent tonight.

Agreed.

[Mustang]

15. Mustang

Whole lotta people who we haven't heard from yet since PM's went out. I'll be holding off on dropping a vote for now, but I tend to look at this sort of thing on Day One.

Was just waiting for an 'official' thread. I didn't think there was much to chatter about in the signup thread.

But, given that Lathum has posted the opening in here, guess this is the thread...

[The Jackal]

just checking in, tried to submit an order but I suppose I'm too late

[claphamsa]

just checking in, tried to submit an order but I suppose I'm too late


and this is strickty swords, keep the chainsaw at home!

[claphamsa]

checkeriners.

Great word.
thanks!

[jeheinz72]

Was just waiting for an 'official' thread. I didn't think there was much to chatter about in the signup thread.

But, given that Lathum has posted the opening in here, guess this is the thread...

Yeah lately the the signup threads have just evolved into the eventual game thread.

Good to have you checked in!

You too Jackal...I guess. ;)

[Narcizo]

No duel seems odd unless Lathum had already decided there weren't going to be any on Night 0 (which would make sense given the wording of his description - although it doesn't explain why we would have to go through the rigaramole of submitting orders). No night kills either apparently. So either we got very lucky with an early bodyguard block, Kurgen was targeted or the night was intended to be, basically, a free scan by the seer.

Anyway the deadlines aren't going to favour me in this game. I'll get back later this evening and see if there's anything more to go on.

[Lathum]

If a player does not duel they do not lose their power points for that night.


per the rules

[Grammaticus]

just checking in, tried to submit an order but I suppose I'm too late

What kind of order did you try to submit?

[Grammaticus]

Lathum, are we now in the city we indicated in the PM? Can we choose the same city each night?

[DaddyTorgo]

Nobody came to SF with me? Shame - I was looking forward to a duel on the Golden Gate Bridge at night and taking someone's head!

[claphamsa]

DT its mathematically impossible for us to all be in diff cities......

[DaddyTorgo]

well i got a PM saying that essentially that nothing happened - so unless the duels are going to show up just in the thread and not in the PM's I think I'm all alone.

[ntndeacon]

I had a feeling somone was in my city, but the feeling went away. So I bet that it was planned for no duels the zeroth night.

[The Jackal]

What kind of order did you try to submit?

just tried to move between cities, but that'll have to wait

[DaddyTorgo]

and i don't want to short-shrift Lathum's PM: I went to Pier 39 and alcatraz and took in a Tim Linecum win, but no duel.

[Lathum]

Lathum, are we now in the city we indicated in the PM? Can we choose the same city each night?

everyone returns to NY City for the lynch phase.

You may return to the same city the following night

[claphamsa]

Nothing happened with me. I fluttered... but no duel. i got distracted. As im sure most of yalls did!

[Mustang]

If someone doesn't select a city or doesn't send an action, is the city randomized or is there a default?

[jeheinz72]

I also fluttered but my instincts told me it wasn't right and I settled down.

Do we think this is a game where it's best to say what city we're in? Part of me thinks yes, but part of me thinks that even the good guys want to outlast the good guys anyhow, so a death doesn't necessarily mean a wolf.

[Lathum]

OK

everyone who submitted night actions should have gotten a PM.

Everyone still has 30 power points

[Lathum]

If someone doesn't select a city or doesn't send an action, is the city randomized or is there a default?

their city and number of power points used will be randomly selected, however, should they dual they will lose automaticly. I don't think it is fair to reward innactivity.

[claphamsa]

jsut to be sure... by the end of the day we need to vote, we need to pick a city, and weneed to pick power points. right?

[DaddyTorgo]

correct clap

[Lathum]

jsut to be sure... by the end of the day we need to vote, we need to pick a city, and weneed to pick power points. right?

correct clap

that is not at all correct.

The day phase ends at 8:00 PM EST, the only thing that happens then is a lynch.

The night phase begins at 8:01 with a deadline of 11:00 AM EST. That is when you pick a city and choose how many power points you use.

[Grammaticus]

I felt a flutter but it went away really fast. I had a sandwich and took in a baseball game. Did some sight seeing and all that stuff.

[Lathum]

Game Cycles- For arguments sake each day in real life is a week in the game.

Day Actions- Traditional WW where each day a player is selected to be lynced. This takes place in NY city ( a location of signifigance later in the game). The deadline for this will be 8:00 PM EST.

There will be no ties and non voters will be punished. No lynch is not an option.

All roles will be revealed upon death.

Night Actions- Will be due by 11:00 AM EST- Wolves will submit their night target. In addition to that each player must select a city to travel to. The Cities are:

Seattle
Miami
San Fransisco
Dallas
Chicago
Boston
Washington DC
Philadelphia
Las Vegas




per the rules

[claphamsa]

that is not at all correct.

The day phase ends at 8:00 PM EST, the only thing that happens then is a lynch.

The night phase begins at 8:01 with a deadline of 11:00 AM EST. That is when you pick a city and choose how many power points you use.

ah, ok thanks!

[path12]

I had a fluttering also, so somebody was in Miami I'd imagine.

[claphamsa]

I guess since we are all back in NY now... we can say where we were with no repercussions. I played slots in Vegas!

[jeheinz72]

I had a fluttering also, so somebody was in Miami I'd imagine.

I was in Miami. Your fluttering probably went away Path because you didn't want to meet your maker in a duel! :p

[PackerFanatic]

Vegas baby!

I had me a good time in Vegas :)

[Mustang]

Wolves are essentially Highlanders too right?

[ntndeacon]

I did not get to a baseball game, but went to see the Eagles instead.

[PackerFanatic]

Wolves are essentially Highlanders too right?

From reading the rules, it sounds like that is the case. Everyone is a highlander, and wolves are just evil ones.

[Barkeep49]

I saw a baseball game myself yesterday.

[jeheinz72]

Updating my list:

4. Schmidty
10. Telle
12. Mrs Schmidty
14. Illinifan

[Mustang]

Updating my list:

4. Schmidty
10. Telle
12. Mrs Schmidty
14. Illinifan

Just the ones that haven't checked in right?

[jeheinz72]

Correct. I figure today is as crapshoot as it gets, and if we're to err, I'd prefer to err on the side of someone who isn't contributing.

[PackerFanatic]

Was anyone else in Vegas with me? The tone of my PM sounds like there was, but I am just curious.

[claphamsa]

I said I was!

[Narcizo]

I also fluttered but my instincts told me it wasn't right and I settled down.

Do we think this is a game where it's best to say what city we're in? Part of me thinks yes, but part of me thinks that even the good guys want to outlast the good guys anyhow, so a death doesn't necessarily mean a wolf.

My impression is that we would duel anyone in the same location if possible. What you're saying happened does suggest that we have some control over it, although who knows what's that based on. I doubt that duels will only be wolves vs villagers as that would be pretty powerful for the villagers - maybe there was a night 1 amnesty.

I think villagers should have in mind that none of us will get a major victory if the wolves win. We should be looking to eradicate the wolves first and foremost and then worry about the major victory after that.

I'm only really going to get one more shot at posting here before deadline. Hopefully someone will say something super-incriminating and I'll be able to vote for them, as I hate random day one votes.

[Barkeep49]

I'm going to vote for one of the absentee players. So I'll start by

Voting Mrs. Schmidty

She can be around during the day, where as the others haven't played for a bit or are more night time people.

[PackerFanatic]

I said I was!

Sorry I missed that, skimmed the posts too quickly :)

[Narcizo]

Correct. I figure today is as crapshoot as it gets, and if we're to err, I'd prefer to err on the side of someone who isn't contributing.

Not a huge fan of this line as people might have genuine reasons for going missing and if they have a role they won't be able to reveal that role if they're put under pressure. Also targeting non-shows is often the line of least resistance taken by wolves to get an easy lynch.

[PackerFanatic]

Not a huge fan of this line as people might have genuine reasons for going missing and if they have a role they won't be able to reveal that role if they're put under pressure. Also targeting non-shows is often the line of least resistance taken by wolves to get an easy lynch.

That is my thinking too - I think we should be able to get something out of the people that have been around, at least more than those who haven't. It won't be much, we all know that, but no point in just throwing votes to people that aren't here, unless of course you don't care who dies (wolf)

[jeheinz72]

So I'm better off going after someone who is contributing and would have to reveal if they had a role anyhow?

Sorry, I don't buy that line of thinking. I just don't see the net benefit of it.

[jeheinz72]

Additionally, in a game like this where villagers are going to off villagers, it's to the wolves advantage to just keep quiet for the onset to see how things shake out.

Hell our seer and our bodyguard could both go to the same city for a duel on Night one and we could lose one that way.

[Narcizo]

So I'm better off going after someone who is contributing and would have to reveal if they had a role anyhow?


Well, let's be honest, there hasn't really been a whole lot of contributing yet. I mean is there really a big difference between someone saying "checking in" and someone not posting at all?

Yes they would have to reveal their role and thus save themselves and leaving the wolves and the bodyguard the decision of whether they're going to be targeted. As opposed to someone who forgot the start time or who has lost internet connection and would consequently not have that opportunity to reveal.

Lathum's said non-contributors are going to lose their duels automatically, so if you're really worried about your list not showing up chances they should be killed in duels pretty quickly.

[jeheinz72]

Lathum's said non-contributors are going to lose their duels automatically, so if you're really worried about your list not showing up chances they should be killed in duels pretty quickly.

He said people who didn't send an action would lose automatically, not non-contirbutors. There's a difference there.

What I'm saying is, it's not exactly a bad wolf ploy here to keep pretty mum starting out, send whatever action they need to and let villagers off villagers for a few days and then re-assess. We've already seen that people are just going to naturally go to the same cities and if I'm interpreting things correctly, duels happen whether intentional or not. Heck, if you and I pick the same city tonight Narc we could be in a duel. The wolves have to be seeing that as being to their advantage and could/should be striving to just stay alive.

[Mustang]

I was in Vegas and my pants fluttered. Probably because of the strippers...

[saldana]

i went to san francisco, but was apparently the only person in the gay bar district.(i hate lathum)

[jeheinz72]

Hahaha, that's awesome.

[DaddyTorgo]

hahah that's awesome saldana.

on another note - deadline is 8pm so i will be getting in at least a prelim vote before i leave work, because i have to go home and work on possibly repairing my laptop, and if i can't fix it (unlikely by 8pm i'd say) I won't be on till after that

[DaddyTorgo]

are there any votes out there yet, or am i casting the first stone?

[jeheinz72]

BK voted for Mrs. Schmidty

[path12]

I was in Miami. Your fluttering probably went away Path because you didn't want to meet your maker in a duel! :p

Hmm. I thought it was probably just the rum.

[path12]

I'll toss out another no show so far and then get back to work.

VOTE ILLINIFAN

[DaddyTorgo]

because he's a trixy player and I can have a hard time getting a read on him.

*the usual "random D1 vote subject to change" disclaimer*

hopefully i'll be able to get on from my phone and see what's up before deadline

VOTE NTNDEACON

[illinifan999]

Sorry I didn't check in, just didn't really feel the need. I just got home from my classes now so that's why I didn't contribute anything today. I resisted my urge last night and saw the cubbies play.

[jeheinz72]

Not to attempt to implicate illini here, but his happening to show up within 4 minutes of getting heat for not checking in is prizzactly what I was getting at earlier.

[ntndeacon]

Additionally, in a game like this where villagers are going to off villagers, it's to the wolves advantage to just keep quiet for the onset to see how things shake out.

Hell our seer and our bodyguard could both go to the same city for a duel on Night one and we could lose one that way.

Our seer won't get killed in a duel. Isn't she the only non highlander out there?

[Narcizo]

Got zero time to say much. My usual ploy is to add my vote to someone else's to try and shake things up and avoid lots of single votes. For no other reason than that, and the usual "dangerous UTR player" business. This change won't be moved because I'm going to bed.

Vote NTNDeacon

Incidentally I was also in SF. Didn't get a tingle which at first I thought might be significant but if Saldana was also there and didn't feel anything maybe it isn't. Or maybe it is and we just don't know why.

[Barkeep49]

Sorry I didn't check in, just didn't really feel the need. I just got home from my classes now so that's why I didn't contribute anything today. I resisted my urge last night and saw the cubbies play.
I got nearly an identical message except I was seeing the Sox (horrors of horrors). I am wondering if we should take that to mean this happened to each other?

[Lathum]

just a note. Any references to attending a sporting event last night were just for flavor.

However going forward, they may have some signifigance.

[jeheinz72]

Our seer won't get killed in a duel. Isn't she the only non highlander out there?

Ah gotcha, is that how it'd work? I honestly don't know enough about the backstory here.

Same principle applies, our BG and the unlynchable guy could meet up and BAM one dies.

My general point here is that there are going to be more deaths than normal that are completely out of our control. That's a wolf advantage situation.

[jeheinz72]

Vote Mrs. Schmidty

No sense spreading this out further and given illini has checked in, I'm going Mrs. S

[Lathum]

current vote count

Mrs Schmidty 2 ( Barkeep 109, Heinze 133)
NTNDeacon 2 ( Daddytorgo 125, Narc 129)
Illinifan 1 (Path 124)

[Mustang]

Our seer won't get killed in a duel. Isn't she the only non highlander out there?

Appears so.

Of course, that means that possibly one of you guys is a female in disguise.

[PackerFanatic]

VOTE ILLINIFAN

I just want to keep it close.

[Mustang]

PackerFan beat me too it so, rather than break a tie

VOTE TELLE


Note going forward, I'll probably be rather inactive from 5:30 - 8:30 PM CST for this game...

[jeheinz72]

Strangeness.

[illinifan999]

Not to attempt to implicate illini here, but his happening to show up within 4 minutes of getting heat for not checking in is prizzactly what I was getting at earlier.


As I said, I had just gotten out of class.

[jeheinz72]

As I said, I had just gotten out of class.

I know and I believe you (hence picking Mrs. S over you) but I was using that to illustrate my point.

[claphamsa]

is heinze buggin anyone else? I decided to do an afternoon brew.... since I went nuts and left work early! so ill be around somewhat.

[claphamsa]

fyi ill probably vote for illini or ntn. ntn always kinda scares me... duno why

vote ntn.

i can change it later

[jeheinz72]

is heinze buggin anyone else? I decided to do an afternoon brew.... since I went nuts and left work early! so ill be around somewhat.

141 posts for the standard Heinz attack. That's a new record in patience for you. :D

[jeheinz72]

FYI I'm leaving in a half-hour and won't be back until the morning.

So don't count on me to break the tie! :p

[claphamsa]

hey, i didn't vote for you :P

[claphamsa]

and somehow, spell check now works here!

did you know spell check is 2 words?

[jeheinz72]

Haha

[ntndeacon]

dang it! I am good go elsewhere.

Vote Mrs. Schmidty

[saldana]

interesting how easily we formed up into a three horse race, and then the spurious telle vote dropped in out of no where

[claphamsa]

are you the only one around who hasnt voted
?

[jeheinz72]

Heinz out.

[path12]

and somehow, spell check now works here!

did you know spell check is 2 words?

Clap, if you start spelling correctly my head just may explode.

[path12]

One must stay true to one's day one philosophy (most times, anyway)

UNVOTE ILLINIFAN
VOTE MRS SCHMIDTY

[Mustang]

Strangeness.

No stranger than you randomly picking someone that hasn't checked in

[Mustang]

interesting how easily we formed up into a three horse race, and then the spurious telle vote dropped in out of no where

And if I would have voted for one of the three it would have been 'Interesting how it was all tied up and suddenly it wasn't any more'.

Everyone else is voting for people that haven't shown up and Telle was on this list too still (I believe) so, just making it a 4 person non-showing-upper race.

[Grammaticus]

I may not be back before 8pm. I'm throwing out a vote to somebody who did not check in.

Vote Schmidty

doesn't mean anything else at this point.

[Barkeep49]

PackerFan beat me too it so, rather than break a tie

VOTE TELLE


Note going forward, I'll probably be rather inactive from 5:30 - 8:30 PM CST for this game...
Why should you not break a tie?

[Lathum]

current vote count

Mrs Schmidty 4 ( Barkeep 109, Heinze 133, path 153,ntndeacon 148)

NTNDeacon 3 ( Daddytorgo 125, Narc 129, clap 142, )

schmidty 1 (grammaicus 156)

illnifan 1 (packerfanatic 136)

telle 1 (mustang 132)

[illinifan999]

Vote Telle

[saldana]

Vote Telle


this stinks...i hate throwaway votes like this one...now i just have to decide if you put it out there to keep the vote off one of the leaders, and if so, which one.

[Barkeep49]

We've got a two horse race and people seem to think that some longshot, at this late date, is going to pull through for them.

[saldana]

vote ntn

[Lathum]

current vote count

Mrs Schmidty 4 ( Barkeep 109, Heinze 133, path 153,ntndeacon 148)

NTNDeacon 4 ( Daddytorgo 125, Narc 129, clap 142,saldana 162 )

telle 2 (mustang 132, illinifan 159)

schmidty 1 (grammaicus 156)

illnifan 1 (packerfanatic 136)

[ntndeacon]

And if I would have voted for one of the three it would have been 'Interesting how it was all tied up and suddenly it wasn't any more'.

Everyone else is voting for people that haven't shown up and Telle was on this list too still (I believe) so, just making it a 4 person non-showing-upper race.

Umm pardon me? I do believe I have been in the thread off and on all day. So the votes for me were certainly not viewing me as a nonparticipant. I think all of them viewed me as a "trixy" player.

[PackerFanatic]

UNVOTE ILLINIFAN
VOTE MRS SCHMIDTY

Breaking the tie, interested to see what happens.

[Lathum]

deadline

[Lathum]

final vote count

Mrs Schmidty 5 ( Barkeep 109, Heinze 133, path 153,ntndeacon 148, packerfanatic 165)

NTNDeacon 4 ( Daddytorgo 125, Narc 129, clap 142,saldana 162 )

telle 2 (mustang 132, illinifan 159)

schmidty 1 (grammaicus 156)



no vote Schmidty, Mrs Schmidty, Telle, Jackal

[Lathum]

You all gather in the front of St Marys and discussion ensues about who could possibly be the wolf menace.

After some discussion it is determoned it must be MRs. Schmidty, eventhough she hasn't said a word.

You all grab her and drag her out to the back alley, no one commits murder on holy ground. One of you unsheaths a sword and expertly slices off Mrs Schmidtys head. Right before her death she screams a primal howl, Mrs Schmidty was a wolf!!

deadline for night actions is 11:00 AM EST

list of cities below

Seattle
Miami
San Fransisco
Dallas
Chicago
Boston
Washington DC
Philadelphia
Las Vegas

[Lathum]

Schmidty,Telle, and Jackal are all deducted 10 power points for not voting.

[saldana]

excellent, a wolf on day one!

[illinifan999]

Now that's what I call a great start!

[Grammaticus]

Sweet, now I wish I had voted for her.

[claphamsa]

wow neato!

[claphamsa]

i hope I run into one of them nonvoters!

[path12]

I think that's the first time we've ever gotten a no-show wolf day 1. Cool!

Or whatever stands for "cool" in Scottish. All I could think of was "ach" or "hoot mon", neither of which seemed to work.

[Barkeep49]

i hope I run into one of them nonvoters!
I hope I run into someone who doesn't submit an action. The autowin would be sweet.

[Barkeep49]

I hope I run into someone who doesn't submit an action. The autowin would be sweet.
Dola: Though I really hope that everyone submits an action.

[claphamsa]

too true!

[PackerFanatic]

That is super fantastic.

[Schmidty]

I'll do this as a Pm.

[claphamsa]

so..... everyone put in their city?

[claphamsa]

nothign to see here. move on move on.

[Mustang]

Umm pardon me? I do believe I have been in the thread off and on all day. So the votes for me were certainly not viewing me as a nonparticipant. I think all of them viewed me as a "trixy" player.

My fault. Although, I would have still voted for Telle doing it at the time I did. I knew I wouldn't be around to change so, I was more trying to even up the vote.

[Lathum]

schmidty is out so I will be finding a replacment for him. I have one lined up, just need to get in touch with him.

[claphamsa]

wow, u R prepared....

[Barkeep49]

FTR, if it's slow at work tomorrow, and I'm still alive, I plan on tracking who has claimed to been where. Seems like important info to know.

[Lathum]

ok

Schmidty and I both think it best for him to not play this game.

AlanT is taking over for him.

I apologize things deteriorated the way they did. That wasn't my intent

[Mustang]

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

ain't gonna be the Schmidty's

[Schmidty]

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

ain't gonna be the Schmidty's

:(

[Mustang]

:(

In all fairness, I was going to say that after the first death no matter who. :)

[Alan T]

Hey guys, just checking in. Lathum asked me to fill in so here I am. I'm pretty busy, so probably won't be my normal chatty self. I skimmed through the thread but haven't really looked too much at the conversation from yesterday in great detail.

I'm pretty much assuming right now my only real concern tonight is to pick a location to travel to and decide how much to spend on any possible duals.. I'll catch up on the rest some time tommorrow in between conference calls.

[DaddyTorgo]

did i miss when things deteriorated? i better go back and see

yay for getting a wolf!

and glad to see that ntn views being "trixy" as a compliment

[DaddyTorgo]

oooh i just realized something - idk if sharing what i realized is the best idea though as i'm sure some others have realized it as well

[DaddyTorgo]

oh - DT realized that he hadn't looked at the forum outside of the thread for this game. lol

[illinifan999]

And DT has me confused now lol

[Narcizo]

Yay for getting a wolf.
Boo for it looking like I was trying to protect a wolf.
And boo for meta-game arguments.

[Narcizo]

Votes

Mrs S by Barkeep (136)
Illifan by path (124)
NTN by DaddyTorgo (125)
NTN by Narcizo (129) 2-1-1
Mrs S by Heinz (133) 2-2-1
Illifan by Packer (136) 2-2-2
Telle by Mustang (137) 2-2-2-1
NTN by clap (142) 3-2-2-1
Mrs S by NTN (148) 3-3-2-1
Unvote Illi by Path (153) 3-3-1-1
Mrs S by Path (153) 4-3-1-1
Schmidty by Gramm (156) 4-3-1-1-1
Telle by illi (159) 4-3-2-1-1
NTN by Saldana (162) 4-4-2-1-1
Unvote Illi by Packer (165) 4-4-2-1
Vote Mrs S by Packer (165) 5-4-2-1

Which looks good for all of the Mrs S voters barring NTN, but particularly good for Packer and Path. Unless NTN is also bad, in which case I don't think anything can really be read into it. While it's not unheard of for there to be 2 wolf candidates in a day one vote it seems pretty unlikely, so I'll go with the assumption that Path and Packer should get a lot of trust, Heinz a fair bit and Barkeep a bit (it's not unheard of for wolves to cast the first vote on another wolf).

Can't help but feel that clap, Sal and myself come out looking bad from the voting. I made a case for not voting for a no-show early on while all our votes could be construed as save attempts (an early one in my case). Of course there's a chance that the wolves decided fairly early not to make any attempt to save Mrs S. Mustang, illi and Gramm's votes all looked like throwaway votes. While there's the no-shows to consider as well.

[saldana]

tbh, i made the tie on purpose with every intent of breaking it myself if no one else did...i was interested in seeing if there would be movement at the deadline to save one player or another.

to me, the most incriminating vote of the day was illinifan...he came in and dropped the telle vote, then left again...that really muddled the waters by making it 4/3/2 when instead, he could have put it to 4/4.

he will likely be getting my vote today, assuming my head is still attached to my body

[The Jackal]

Schmidty,Telle, and Jackal are all deducted 10 power points for not voting.

blows, visiting my friend and didn't have internet access between yesterday afternoon and now .. that's why i didn't get a vote in for people that are wondering, but i already had a movement submitted so we'll see what happens with that

ill be traveling most of today but ill try and pitch in

[Narcizo]

tbh, i made the tie on purpose with every intent of breaking it myself if no one else did...i was interested in seeing if there would be movement at the deadline to save one player or another.


Well, of course, you would say that. :) As it happens that's pretty much how I would have played it as well but I'm just saying that you shouldn't be surprised if people think it looks suspicious. You have to pay the price (of distrust) for tying up the vote against a wolf.

Not sure what to make of illifan's vote although I would like to hear an explanation as to why he thought he should start a third candidate rather than voting for one of the two main ones at that stage. It does seem odd. Then again were he a wolf wouldn't he just have voted for NTN? I know wolves don't all want to link their votes and be too overt about saving a team member but I have a hard time seeing him voting anywhere but on NTN at that stage were he a wolf.

[illinifan999]

I didn't vote for Mrs. S because it looked like she was going to get lynched already, and I don't really feel that NTN is a wolf, so rather than put a tie on someone I don't think is a wolf and possibly have them get lynched, I tried to get a 3rd candidate going.

[Narcizo]

I can't really get that to add up. If you thought Mrs S was going to get lynched anyway, what's the point of trying to start up a third candidate. If you're basing your vote on them not having checked in (which is all you've got to go on for either Mrs S or Telle) then I can't see a reason to try and split the no-show vote. Particularly if you feel that NTN isn't a wolf. If you really have any reason to think NTN isn't a wolf (ie have a degree of feeling above the base 75-80% chance he isn't a wolf) then you should be voting for Mrs S to make sure he doesn't get lynched.

[illinifan999]

My degree of feeling that he isn't a wolf is that high. I thought Mrs. S was going to by lynched, so I wanted to vote for a 3rd party and see if that would start up some discussion. I got my wish, and it did, unfortunately I started up the discussion on myself. :(

[jeheinz72]

No stranger than you randomly picking someone that hasn't checked in

Well, that's the Strangeness I meant actually. Multiple people jabbed at me for doing that strategy, including you and then lo and behold, like 3/4ths of the votes go to people on that list.

Still catching up though, so I have no idea how much I should actually toot toot here. :p

[jeheinz72]

Votes

Mrs S by Barkeep (136)
Illifan by path (124)
NTN by DaddyTorgo (125)
NTN by Narcizo (129) 2-1-1
Mrs S by Heinz (133) 2-2-1
Illifan by Packer (136) 2-2-2
Telle by Mustang (137) 2-2-2-1
NTN by clap (142) 3-2-2-1
Mrs S by NTN (148) 3-3-2-1
Unvote Illi by Path (153) 3-3-1-1
Mrs S by Path (153) 4-3-1-1
Schmidty by Gramm (156) 4-3-1-1-1
Telle by illi (159) 4-3-2-1-1
NTN by Saldana (162) 4-4-2-1-1
Unvote Illi by Packer (165) 4-4-2-1
Vote Mrs S by Packer (165) 5-4-2-1

Which looks good for all of the Mrs S voters barring NTN, but particularly good for Packer and Path. Unless NTN is also bad, in which case I don't think anything can really be read into it. While it's not unheard of for there to be 2 wolf candidates in a day one vote it seems pretty unlikely, so I'll go with the assumption that Path and Packer should get a lot of trust, Heinz a fair bit and Barkeep a bit (it's not unheard of for wolves to cast the first vote on another wolf).

Can't help but feel that clap, Sal and myself come out looking bad from the voting. I made a case for not voting for a no-show early on while all our votes could be construed as save attempts (an early one in my case). Of course there's a chance that the wolves decided fairly early not to make any attempt to save Mrs S. Mustang, illi and Gramm's votes all looked like throwaway votes. While there's the no-shows to consider as well.

I'm curious as to why I only get a fair bit of trust compared to path and PF. I made a solid vote to make it 2-2-1 when I could've gone 3-1-1 or 2-1-1-1. Realistically for the village if one things NTN is villager than I made the ideal vote.

Oh, and the whole fact that I championed the whole voting for non-check-in people in the face of criticism. ;)

[jeheinz72]

Though looking again now I see more of your point. Path and PF made damn gutsy calls breaking ties. Ignore my selfish POV.

Carry on!

[claphamsa]

We usually ignore you heinzeie!

(notice usually is spelled right!, yay firefox!)

[Narcizo]

I'm curious as to why I only get a fair bit of trust compared to path and PF.

Because of the chess game, a fair bit of trust is all you're ever getting from me. :)

[jeheinz72]

Because of the chess game, a fair bit of trust is all you're ever getting from me. :)

Haha, that's probably pretty fair. :)

[illinifan999]

So my car got towed last night. Awesome.:mad:

[path12]

My degree of feeling that he isn't a wolf is that high. I thought Mrs. S was going to by lynched, so I wanted to vote for a 3rd party and see if that would start up some discussion. I got my wish, and it did, unfortunately I started up the discussion on myself. :(

Curious as to why you would have such a feeling about someone on day 1. Could you elaborate?

[Lathum]

writeup/ PM's on the way. Just have to take my dog out

[jeheinz72]

That sucks illini

[Mustang]

Well, that's the Strangeness I meant actually. Multiple people jabbed at me for doing that strategy, including you and then lo and behold, like 3/4ths of the votes go to people on that list.


I know its the strategy in the beginning just because there is nothing else to go off of and I don't particularily like it. I fell victim to it once and had to spend the rest of the game defending myself because I couldn't be around on day 1 because some unforeseen event came up.

Given that, that is why I still voted for Telle. Figured most people were voting that way anyways.

(has to be a more interesting starting point somewhere.. just haven't found it yet since most 1st day kills are either people not checking in or people successful in previous WW games, but that is a discussion for another thread...)

[path12]

I've always used not checking in as a basis for my day 1 vote. But I'm on record as hating day 1's anyhow. I think most times it ends up between two villagers who are parsing too carefully.

[Lathum]

you are all enjoying the city of your choice, when subbenly your sight is clouded and your brain fills with powerfull images.

Somewhere there is a dual.

The majestic sight of the golden gate bridge looks like an observer in the background. Suddenly the image comes into focus. Saldana's sword moves with the gracefull flow like water, slashing blows at Telle. She counters his attacks and swoops in. Saldana nimbly steps aside and twirls, the punk tail of his overcaot spinning behind him, almost in slow motion. Telle overbalances and in one swift arc saldanas arm shoots down, his sword not even an extension, almost a pert of him.

The blade slices Telles head off in one swift motion. Purpleish-blue lighting scatters everywhere and absorbs into saldana. He collaps exausted, yet more powerfull looking.

You are all stunned, as you look are Rameriz lying headless on the ground.

[jeheinz72]

Ok, so Saldana killed Telle, and Telle was Ramirez, our bodyguard.

Smooth move Ex-Lax.

[DaddyTorgo]

hmm - real quiet

[DaddyTorgo]

damnit Sal! you killed the BG!

[Lathum]

just as soon as your sight clears another vision appears. This time it is a back alley behing the imposing figure of the abondaned texas stadium.

JeHeinze and Narcizo are locked in a fierce battle. Rain is pouring down as streaks of lighting accent there sword blades.

hmm, you think to yourself. I just checked the Dallas weather, only a 60% chance of rain.

Narcizo takes advantage of a momentery laspe in Heinze's concentration and strikes a blow to the side of his head, heainze stumbles back, dazed.

Narcizo swoops in for the kill but Heinz was faking. Heinze leaps forward, supprisingly quick for a big guy, and thrusts his sword through narcizos stomach. Graps his face and throws him to the ground. Pulls him up by his hair and sends the blade of his sword throug his neck.

As with Saldana, Heinze absorbs lighting all into his body, and seems to grow larger.

Narcizo was a highlander.

[illinifan999]

Well I guess it's a good thing I didn't start a run on Telle at the end then. Was she inactive or did she submit night actions?

[Alan T]

So does no PM mean nothing exciting happened, or just not all of the PMs are out yet?

[jeheinz72]

Sorry there Narc old chap

[DaddyTorgo]

man we're going to all off each other real quick in this game. i think there can't be more than like 2 wolves because of that. i think even 3 to start might have been too much - so maybe we're down to just one?

[Lathum]

Those of you who haven't dueled or survived your duel arrive in New York, same as last week.

You all discuss the duels that you witnessed. Ranirez will be missed, he was a mentor to many of you.

There is a silver lining however, it seems the wolves did not strike.

Day 2 has begun. PM's going out now.

Deadline 8:00 PM EST.

[Lathum]

Telle did not submit a night action and her random city chosen put her in the same city as saldana. The circumstanced were right for a duel. Which she lost.

I am posting this info because I don't think it would be fair for saldana to ssuffer the speculation that it may have been a BG block gone wrong.

[Lathum]

PM's ging out now

[Mustang]

man we're going to all off each other real quick in this game. i think there can't be more than like 2 wolves because of that. i think even 3 to start might have been too much - so maybe we're down to just one?

Kind of what I was starting to wonder. Not sure of the non wolf kill.

Either -

A. A name wasn't submitted
B. Wolfs can't kill when engaged in a duel
C. Ramirez blocked it
D. Wolfs can only kill when in the same city as their intended victim

[Mustang]

Was posting before Lathum posted his comments.

Kinda rules out my C option

[path12]

So......sounds like Heinz and saldana are more powerful now? Anything you guys would like to share? Was there some enhancement to your abilities?

[DaddyTorgo]

i bet saldana is fuckin whomp-ass powerful

[PackerFanatic]

Kind of what I was starting to wonder. Not sure of the non wolf kill.

Either -

A. A name wasn't submitted
B. Wolfs can't kill when engaged in a duel
C. Ramirez blocked it
D. Wolfs can only kill when in the same city as their intended victim

It sounds like D might be the best option here.

[jeheinz72]

So......sounds like Heinz and saldana are more powerful now? Anything you guys would like to share? Was there some enhancement to your abilities?

Nothing major really. I just got his power points. Though I'd rather not divulge how many I used or absorbed for obvious reasons.

[jeheinz72]

Lathum - Can there be multiple duels in the same city?

[jeheinz72]

Kind of what I was starting to wonder. Not sure of the non wolf kill.

Either -

A. A name wasn't submitted
B. Wolfs can't kill when engaged in a duel
C. Ramirez blocked it
D. Wolfs can only kill when in the same city as their intended victim

I'd also add E. There is some sort of cap on kills per night

Frankly that was my thought going into the night, that there has to be some sort of preventative measure against something like 5 villager deaths in the same night.

[Lathum]

all PM's are out

[jeheinz72]

Lathum - Can there be multiple duels in the same city?

Reason I ask this, is because maybe (and it'd be tricky) we rig the locations of everyone each night. I don't know if it's in the villages best interest to have all of these duels where we lose people ala Telle our BG and Narc, a strong player.

We could send one person each to 8 cities and then have our least trusted folks all head to the 9th city and let God sort 'em out. We'd get the benefit of a wolf possibly losing a duel and we'd possibly minimize our self-carnage.

[claphamsa]

Nothing major really. I just got his power points. Though I'd rather not divulge how many I used or absorbed for obvious reasons.
you started with 30 and got his 30...its in the rules :P

[jeheinz72]

you started with 30 and got his 30...its in the rules :P

But I used some as well in order to win the duel, as did he to participate in it.

So I'm at 30 minus what I used plus what he didn't use.

[claphamsa]

hmmmm, rereading the rules....

[Lathum]

Lathum - Can there be multiple duels in the same city?

no, not until the end

[claphamsa]

it appears this follows..... did you lose the points you used? or just the points amount he used +1?

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah - he's right claphamsa.

[Lathum]

you started with 30 and got his 30...its in the rules :P

But I used some as well in order to win the duel, as did he to participate in it.

So I'm at 30 minus what I used plus what he didn't use.

hmmmm, rereading the rules....

this made me laugh

[jeheinz72]

it appears this follows..... did you lose the points you used? or just the points amount he used +1?

I don't know, I just get my new total, not a ledger of it.

[claphamsa]

Note, too self... do not use all 30 again tonight :)

[Mrs. Schmidty]

I thought I would make a quick post as to explain my inactivity. I apologized already to Lathum and my fellow wolfies, but just so the group knows, our daughter was pretty sick over the weekend and into yesterday - running a high fever and such. I was pretty focused on her and also working late and going in early, so honestly, I flaked. Sorry to my fellow WWers. I usually am a nighttime poster, but not inactive in votes and night action etc.
Hope to see you guys next game!

[jeheinz72]

It happens Mrs. S, I hope your daughter is feeling better!

[path12]

No worries, Mrs. S. I'm just glad we caught you early! ;)

[Mustang]

It sounds like D might be the best option here.

That was my least likely option given the # of cities. If you have 5 people left and 1 wolf, makes it harder on the wolf to win actually.

I'd agree with the option E though (cap limit). With 15 people (I think it was 15 people left last night), you have the potential for 7 duels which would be alot.