Wearwolf XC Killer kittens part something Game over!

[claphamsa]

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RULES

We will use a 24 hour system with a 2pm EST deadline. ITS IMPORTANT TO USE CONDIDTIONALS IF YOU WONT BE AROUND! (We can discuss the timeing)

WW is a game of lying, deceit, and mauling. Especially mauling.

Each day you will vote for one person to lynch. The player who receives the most votes will be killed. In the event of a tie the longest-held unchanged vote will break the tie. In this game, you may NOT choose to vote for "no lynch" instead of someone specifically.

Each night the dogs will confer and submit one player they want to attack, and which dog will be committing the assault.

Undetermined number of cats and dogs to start the game.
Editing posts is forbidden.
There will be no quoting of of PM's received from the game director.
There will be no discussion of the game anywhere other than this thread.
PM's between dogs are allowed whenever. You may PM me at anytime for questions, or during the night phase with night actions. PM's between anyone else are forbidden.

VOTING

Votes for a player should be submitted in bold, for example:

Vote The Jackal

You may switch your vote with the following format:

Unvote The Jackal
Vote No Lynch

ROLES

Note that not all roles may be in the game.

Light Auras

Cat - You are a regular cat, you have no powers other than your vote in the group council. You win when the evil of the group is gone.

<st1:state w:st="on"><st1>Maine</st1></st1:state>Coon – You are a very large and strong cat, each night you may choose to protect one of them (including yourself), and they will be safe from dog Attack. You may not choose the same person two nights in a row. You win when the dogs are dead.

The Siamese - You were raised by an isolated, secretive group of druids who have taught you to read people's auras. Each night you may scan anybody and you will be told if their aura is dark or light. You win when the dogs are gone.


The show cat – You had a long career as a show cat and have won multiple blue ribbons, and will try your best to hide this fact from the Dogs and even the greedy kittens that surround you. However, because of your wealth, you can bribe the council to change a lynch decision from one person to another. You may only use this ability once. You win when the dogs are dead.

<st1><st1:state w:st="on">Chihuahua</st1:state></st1> – You are a dog, but no one can tell (that you are a dog). You win when the dogs win, but your aura will show up light.

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Dark Auras

Dog - You are a bloodthirsty, dog, intent on eating all the cats. Each night you will confer with the other Dogs and pick one cat to eat. You win when you achieve an even ratio with the kittens.

Leader of the pack - You are the leader of the dogs, if you are caught, you can chose to take any one other player with you.

Stray- You are a kitten, but after years of life on the streets you have seen enough to turn your fur white, and your aura dark. You may chose to follow anyone any night, and you will know what they are doing.<o></o>
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[claphamsa]

Who?

1.the Jackyl!
2. Packerfanatic- dead night 1 kitten
3. Poli
4. Daddy Torgo
5. Passacaglia
6. Danny -lynched day 1 kitten
7. Eaglesfan- dead night 2 kitten!
8. Schmidty- lynched day 2 DOG!
9. USFL Tecmo
10.Abe
11.Lathum

[The Jackal]

I'm in, fix your crazy ass formatting

[PackerFanatic]

In.

[claphamsa]

how?

[Poli]

In.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm in, fix your crazy ass formatting

what he said.

IN

[Passacaglia]

I N !

[Danny]

I'll join

[EagleFan]

I'm in, fix your crazy ass formatting

+1

In as well.

[The Jackal]

how?

Go check the parts of your post where these smilies are appearing, I can't edit it for ya.

[Schmidty]

I'll be in.........not that anyone will know.....

[USFLTecmo]

If you don't mind a rookie, I'll play.

[Passacaglia]

We love fresh meat.

[Danny]

Nice! Welcome to FOFC WW :)

[Abe Sargent]

Im in then

[Lathum]

In

( not crazy about the 9:00 AM PST deadline)

[EagleFan]

vote Lathum

[claphamsa]

Ill send out rules, ealry this afternoon! so you still have some time....

would anyone object to making the deadline 2 pm EST?

[Passacaglia]

Today?

[Passacaglia]

Oh, since roles are you this afternoon, I'm guessing you mean tomorrow for the end of day 1. I have no objection to that.

[Poli]

Other than it will make it extremely difficult for me to be online at a deadline? Oh no. No objection from me.

;)

[DaddyTorgo]

no massive objection from me. not my favorite time of day, but that's alright i'll prolly get offed early anyways

[The Jackal]

Pretty much any deadline is fine with me. And clap - you're missing Lathum in the signups list.

[Passacaglia]

As the cool kids say it, "Roman Numeral Fail" in this thread.

[The Jackal]

As the cool kids say it, "Roman Numeral Fail" in this thread.

XC for the win

[claphamsa]

:P

ok Poli whats your issue? I wanna get as many on as possible at deadline.... and first fall will be tomorrow!

[claphamsa]

Roles out in 15 or so!

[claphamsa]

all roles are out..... dont read anythign into my messages. im lazy and all

deadline 2pm Tuesday unless yalls come up with something different (im pretty open to any time early afternoon)

[PackerFanatic]

I am a fricking adorable kitten.

Love me.

[claphamsa]

oh yeah, and posting lolcats is encouraged :)

[Passacaglia]

Kitten here.

Iz not weerd « Lolcats ‘n’ Funny Pictures of Cats - I Can Has Cheezburger? (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/03/29/funny-pictures-mommy-sez-i-has-flair/)

[Lathum]

Clap, you may want to change in the rules where the deadline is listed it still says noon

[claphamsa]

done

[The Jackal]

http://deconstructedchristian.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/lolcat01.jpg

[Abe Sargent]

Lo all!

[Lathum]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3969/128829079053250710.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=128829079053250710.jpg)

[USFLTecmo]

Meow mix, meow mix, please deliver!

:D

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-please-identify-the-perpetrator.jpg

[Abe Sargent]

I'm about ready to vote myself, this is already annoying.

[Passacaglia]

Oy. I'll help you out then! :)

VOTE ABE SARGENT

[DaddyTorgo]

oh god. is this thread just going to end up full of cute lil lolcat pics?

i like lathum's - cuz it's RL and yet also lolcat. very funny.

*waves*

[Lathum]

I'm about ready to vote myself, this is already annoying.

whats annoying?

[DaddyTorgo]

mebbe he finds it annoying cuz he's a dog...surrounded by all these cats?

[Schmidty]

The 11 am deadline kind of sucks for me (and maybe other west coasters), but I'll deal.

[The Jackal]

If I recall, the lolcats pics died off after the first day last time and then were only used when hilariously appropriate.

[claphamsa]

That was actually 3-4 games ago.... I just love lolcats! :D

[DaddyTorgo]

The 11 am deadline kind of sucks for me (and maybe other west coasters), but I'll deal.

well FWIW i think 11am PST and 2pm EST are both times that mean that it's likely to be pretty quiet immediately before deadline.

i don't think i can play WW with you anymore without thinking of you as Hulk in the the Marvel game the first time around - :lol:

[Danny]

I like cats fine, but too many pics!

[Abe Sargent]

irl, cats make me sneeze and I prefer dogs. We raised papillions when I was a kid, took them to dog shows, showed them off, and won awards and stuff. It was awesome. I want a dog.

"When I get back to my small flat, I want to hear somebody bark. Oh. It can get lonely. And a cat's no help with that."

I Want a Dog
Pet Shop Boys

[Lathum]

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3598/128829234248953166.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=128829234248953166.jpg)

[Lathum]

VOTE ABE

[The Jackal]

Yeah, his last post could've easily been a chihuahua post..

[The Jackal]

Or/and he dislikes cats. Either way, not the best of decisions on his part.

[The Jackal]

I'm not sure I want to make a landslide just yet, so I'm gonna hold off on voting. But he's my leading candidate with nothin' else going on.

[Abe Sargent]

VOTE ABE

I would like for you to explian this vote please

[Lathum]

I would like for you to explian this vote please

maybe it's because you quoted Pet Shop Boys

[Abe Sargent]

maybe it's because you quoted Pet Shop Boys

Can you be more specific why quoting my second favorite band of all time causes you to vote for me?

[Lathum]

Can you be more specific why quoting my second favorite band of all time causes you to vote for me?

who is your favorite?

[Abe Sargent]

Depeche Mode

[Lathum]

your not doing yourself any favors

[Abe Sargent]

I'd still like for you to hammer down exactly why you voted for me. No maybes, nothing, just a specific reason.

[Danny]

Vote Passacaglia

No good reason, but I don't really see Abe being that obvious if he was a wolf or a chihuahua and don't want a runaway. Vote is subject to change.

[Lathum]

I'd still like for you to hammer down exactly why you voted for me. No maybes, nothing, just a specific reason.

in all seriousness it just seems like you are pulling a hide out in the open strategy

[Abe Sargent]

Again, I would like specifics. Exactly how so. Just tell me how.

[Lathum]

your whole, I am gonna vote for myself schtik

[Abe Sargent]

You think because I mention that I really disdain Lolcats that it is: a) a schtick, and b) a sign I am a wolf. Okay, now I know your reasoning. Very limited though it is. Would have preferred that the second person to place a vote on me, Day One, before any other candidate had a vote would, you know, mention this earlier, but I guess I had to really pull teeth just now.

[Abe Sargent]

I've been spending the last hour trying, unsuccessfully, to capture Mewtwo. Perhaps Lathum will read something into that. ;)

[Lathum]

wtf is mewtwo?

[The Jackal]

i agree with lathum for once, it must be the vodka

[The Jackal]

in all seriousness Abe, you do understand why that was a post that's going to raise eyebrows? I mean hell people pick on such minutia in this game on the first day, and there's a sorceror role that wants the dogs to know who they are asap, so..

[The Jackal]

well now i've confused myself.. is the chihuahua a sorceror role or a cunning wolf role? it seems like in the rules its a dog who counts as a dog, but the other dogs dont know them or what?

[The Jackal]

its kind of important because if its a cunning role then any rationale i had for suspecting abe is out the window

[EagleFan]

Checking in, now it's time to go play with a ball of yarn.

vote Lathum

He posts a picture of a cat on a cruise. Any self respecting cat would never get that close to water. Nice try wolf boy.

[Poli]

Am I seeing that right? Just 11 of us?

Anyhow, no real reason or rhyme to this.

VOTE DANNY

For being the husband last friggin game.

[Abe Sargent]

in all seriousness Abe, you do understand why that was a post that's going to raise eyebrows? I mean hell people pick on such minutia in this game on the first day, and there's a sorceror role that wants the dogs to know who they are asap, so..

No I don;t. Lathum knows this, because I've played with him tons of times. I do not get or send signals, I don;t know how. I have never recieved a secret signal or message in a werewolf post ever. I have never tried to send one, ever. I wouldn't know where to start.

Lathum's got a picture posted with a dog in it!!! OMG, he must be canine!!!

Read whatever you want into whatever, but I have never gotten a secret message in a post, nor have I sent one. I wouldn;t know where to start or how.

[The Jackal]

well that's a lie right there because PB sent a message to you last game by voting for you right off. :)

[The Jackal]

but seriously, i'd like to either get clarification from clap or some discussion from other people about whether the chihuahua role is the sorceror or a cunning wolf .. my whole premise about abe's post was that the dogs dont know who the chihuahua is but after looking at the rules again.. i donno

[Abe Sargent]

Which I didn;t get until others pointed it out.

[Abe Sargent]

wtf is mewtwo?

Another reason why my Pokemon ww game is doomed to failure.

[Abe Sargent]

http://www.ugo.com/images/galleries/supersmashbroscharacters_games/supersmashbroscharacters_24.jpg

[claphamsa]

but seriously, i'd like to either get clarification from clap or some discussion from other people about whether the chihuahua role is the sorceror or a cunning wolf .. my whole premise about abe's post was that the dogs dont know who the chihuahua is but after looking at the rules again.. i donno


um should be pretty standard cunning wolf! does it not read like that?

must be the vodka!

[Lathum]

<st1><st1:state w:st="on">Chihuahua</st1:state></st1> – You are a dog, but no one can tell. You win when the dogs win, but your aura will show up light.


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.

[Lathum]

dola- the way I read it is that it is a hybrid of the 2. The rule says no one knows who he is, so I am assuming that includes the dogs.

[The Jackal]

um should be pretty standard cunning wolf! does it not read like that?

must be the vodka!

its just different, when you say something like "this role wins with the wolves" it usually suggests the wolves dont know who they are - but if its cunning then i've got little to no suspicion on abe

[Danny]

um should be pretty standard cunning wolf! does it not read like that?

must be the vodka!

I was thinking sorcerer myself, so the chihuahua counts as a dog and communicates with the dogs just like a regular cunning wolf?

[claphamsa]

yes cunning wolf.... Ill edit it!

[claphamsa]

edited..
I think this is the 8th time ive used this rule set and 4th here.... no one ever complained before! :P

[Danny]

So Lathum's and Jackal's reasoning for voting Abe is pretty much null in void now.

[Schmidty]

Vote Poli

Because it has to be done!!!

[Lathum]

So Lathum's and Jackal's reasoning for voting Abe is pretty much null in void now.

not at all, strengthens it if anything.

The cunning wants to get scanned early on.

[Danny]

I don't buy it, Abe was the cunning wolf in our last game and his play was nothing like it was just now. He could be a wolf, but I don't see his play as suspicious when he just was the cunning wolf and played nothing like that.

[Danny]

To further expand on that, I get the opposite vibe that I did in that last game where I pushed for his lynching.

[Lathum]

I don't buy it, Abe was the cunning wolf in our last game and his play was nothing like it was just now. He could be a wolf, but I don't see his play as suspicious when he just was the cunning wolf and played nothing like that.

Abe is one of the most hard core gamers on this board, I'm not saying he is a wolf, but if you don't think Abe would change up his play you are sorely mistaken

[Danny]

That's always possible, I haven't played with Abe much.

[Abe Sargent]

That's always possible, I haven't played with Abe much.

Please, don;t bring back QOTM

[The Jackal]

So Lathum's and Jackal's reasoning for voting Abe is pretty much null in void now.

mind you i never voted for abe

[The Jackal]

nor do i vouch for lathum even though i agreed with him originally ;)

[The Jackal]

i'll have some things to say when i wake up in the morning, night all

[Passacaglia]

irl, cats make me sneeze and I prefer dogs. We raised papillions when I was a kid, took them to dog shows, showed them off, and won awards and stuff. It was awesome. I want a dog.

"When I get back to my small flat, I want to hear somebody bark. Oh. It can get lonely. And a cat's no help with that."

I Want a Dog
Pet Shop Boys

Hmm. That makes me want to unvote you now. On the other hand, when I quoted "Shopping" by the Pet Shop Boys in the D&D game, you didn't give me any cool bonuses or anything, so maybe I won't.

[Passacaglia]

maybe it's because you quoted Pet Shop Boys

Oh, and he's drawing heat for it? That's it.


UNVOTE ABE SARGENT
VOTE LATHUM

[Passacaglia]

mind you i never voted for abe

I think Danny meant me. Although I didn't have any actual reasoning for my vote, other than lets get rid of the whinger.

[DaddyTorgo]

hmmmm

[PackerFanatic]

VOTE LATHUM

Not much else to go on day 1. He seems to be stirring the pot a little too much this early on.

[DaddyTorgo]

lathum/abe/danny hmm? those are the 3 options

[DaddyTorgo]

Vote Count

Abe - Lathum (51)
Pass - Danny (62)
Lathum - EagleFan (73), Pass (100), PackerFanatic (103)
Danny - Poli (74)
Poli - Schmidty (89)

[DaddyTorgo]

did a little vote count, was surprised to see the movement meant that things are trending away from Abe and towards lathum. Note that Pass voted for Abe initially (40) and then switched to Lathum (100), and that's the only movement so far.

[Lathum]

interesting little run there

[Abe Sargent]

I want to hold off on my vote until later, because I may have to use it defensively.

[Lathum]

VOTE LATHUM

Not much else to go on day 1. He seems to be stirring the pot a little too much this early on.

I don't understand this logic at all.

Stirring the pot early on gives us information down the road. Would you rather have everyone just do a hit and run vote? I know if I was a wolf that is what I would want.

[Lathum]

A couple of interesting early observations.

The little run on me, makes it even more interesting that Pass had voted for Abe early on, then Abe gets another vote and Pass jumps off of him and onto me. Unless Pass knows something what does it matter who he votes for, we are all flying blind day 1, why switch votes?

Danny voting for Pass and Pass instead of returning the favor and making it 2 votes on Danny he puts a vote on me, now why is that? Then Packerfanatic puts a 3rd vote on me, plus Abe still has his vote, this is putting us close to a potential runaway/

When Schmidty voted there were already 4 candidates who had at least 1 vote, why introduce a new candidate by voting Poli?

[Lathum]

Oh, and he's drawing heat for it? That's it.


UNVOTE ABE SARGENT
VOTE LATHUM


actualy I explain myself later on in the thread, yet you chose to ignore that and are using this as a week excuse, you seem very wolfy to me right now

[Passacaglia]

actualy I explain myself later on in the thread, yet you chose to ignore that and are using this as a week excuse, you seem very wolfy to me right now

You didn't explain anything -- you even furthered my case for you by dissing Depeche Mode as well!

[Abe Sargent]

I don't understand this logic at all.

Stirring the pot early on gives us information down the road. Would you rather have everyone just do a hit and run vote? I know if I was a wolf that is what I would want.

You did a hit and run vote until I pulled it our of you. Seems a little silly to be dissing someone else for doing the same.

[DaddyTorgo]

let's try to bring it a bit closer. I get what you're saying Lathum.

VOTE DANNY

[Lathum]

I'd still like for you to hammer down exactly why you voted for me. No maybes, nothing, just a specific reason.

in all seriousness it just seems like you are pulling a hide out in the open strategy

Again, I would like specifics. Exactly how so. Just tell me how.

You didn't explain anything -- you even furthered my case for you by dissing Depeche Mode as well!

I guess you decided to skip over this portion of the thread

[DaddyTorgo]

Vote Count

Abe - Lathum (51)
Pass - Danny (62)
Lathum - EagleFan (73), Pass (100), PackerFanatic (103)
Danny - Poli (74), DT (114)
Poli - Schmidty (89)

Still to vote: Abe, Jackyl, USFL Tecmo

[Passacaglia]

I guess you decided to skip over this portion of the thread

I wouldn't say I skipped it -- just ignored it. I think you're making something out of nothing, and my vote has nothing to do with that.

[Lathum]

You did a hit and run vote until I pulled it our of you. Seems a little silly to be dissing someone else for doing the same.

after I voted I explained myself, yes you had to pull it out of me, but I was just having a little fun with you.

Pass' vote is WAY different, I am sorry, but unvoting someone on day 1 is gonna draw you heat considering if you are a villager you should be viewing the other 10 players with equal suspiscoun.

The only reason you should have to unvote day 1 is self defense. Anything else makes it look like you know more then the average villager.

And my response was to PackerFanatic saying I was stirring the pot, IMO that is a good thing on day 1, gives us something to analyze down the road.

[Passacaglia]

Oh, I think I see the disconnect here. When I said "You didn't explain anything" I meant that you didn't explain away your diss on the Pet Shop Boys.

[Lathum]

UNVOTE ABE
VOTE PASS

mostly self defense

[Lathum]

Oh, I think I see the disconnect here. When I said "You didn't explain anything" I meant that you didn't explain away your diss on the Pet Shop Boys.

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[Lathum]

I wouldn't say I skipped it -- just ignored it. I think you're making something out of nothing, and my vote has nothing to do with that.

and what exactly does your vote have to do with?

You unvoted Abe and moved to me, in an uniformed villagers eyes we should be equal variables.

You never gave any hard core reason for moving to me, so really whats the difference who goes?

[Passacaglia]

and what exactly does your vote have to do with?

You unvoted Abe and moved to me, in an uniformed villagers eyes we should be equal variables.

You never gave any hard core reason for moving to me, so really whats the difference who goes?

I already said in the thread earlier. I unvoted Abe because he quoted the Pet Shop Boys, and voted for you because you gave him crap for it. Other than that, you're right -- there's no difference.

[DaddyTorgo]

Vote Count

Abe - 0 now
Pass - Danny (62), Lathum (120)
Lathum - EagleFan (73), Pass (100), PackerFanatic (103)
Danny - Poli (74), DT (114)
Poli - Schmidty (89)

Still to vote: Abe, Jackyl, USFL Tecmo

[Lathum]

I already said in the thread earlier. I unvoted Abe because he quoted the Pet Shop Boys, and voted for you because you gave him crap for it. Other than that, you're right -- there's no difference.

that is the worst reason to unvote and vote someone on day 1.

[Passacaglia]

that is the worst reason to unvote and vote someone on day 1.

How could that be if, as you said, it makes no difference?

[Lathum]

How could that be if, as you said, it makes no difference?

hence my point.

If it makes no difference why the movement?

The only reason to move is to save someone.

[Lathum]

USFL, I see you in the thread and you havent voted yet, what are your thoughts?

[Passacaglia]

hence my point.

If it makes no difference why the movement?

The only reason to move is to save someone.

Just to have a little fun. I like fun.

[Abe Sargent]

From my perspective, The only reason to move is to save someone.

Fixed!

[USFLTecmo]

USFL, I see you in the thread and you havent voted yet, what are your thoughts?

This is a lot more action on day one than any of the very few games I've played. Lots to take in, but none of it seems to point one way or the other to anyone thus far. Looks like I have some thinking to do.

[DaddyTorgo]

This is a lot more action on day one than any of the very few games I've played. Lots to take in, but none of it seems to point one way or the other to anyone thus far. Looks like I have some thinking to do.

lol


WELCOME TO HOLLYWOOD!

[USFLTecmo]

I think tying it up is a good thing to do here, see what shakes out. I'll stick around, though, and I won't let this end in a tie if I can possibly help it.

VOTE DANNY

[DaddyTorgo]

okay i'm going to stay in thread but i've done like nothing at work all day so i gotta wor a bit

[DaddyTorgo]

*work a bit

[Passacaglia]

In the event of a tie the longest-held unchanged vote will break the tie.


Just an FYI on the tie-breaker rules, for those curious.

[The Jackal]

Hmm.

[The Jackal]

I think tying it up is a good thing to do here, see what shakes out. I'll stick around, though, and I won't let this end in a tie if I can possibly help it.

VOTE DANNY

Problem with tying it is that it's not really a tie. Lathum's still dead by one post at the moment. I'm not getting a wolf vibe off Lathum thus far, so in deciding between Danny and Pass, its a matter of who I want to put pressure on..

VOTE PASS

[Passacaglia]

Wow, just read the wikipedia entry for the USFL. What a bunch of stupid decisions all over the place. I remember seeing the Michigan Panthers play the Houston Gamblers, which I guess must have been May 6, 1984, since that's the only time Houston played in the Silverdome. Since I was 7, I had no idea the league was only in its second season -- I just knew it was a league that wasn't as good as the NFL.

[Passacaglia]

Problem with tying it is that it's not really a tie. Lathum's still dead by one post at the moment. I'm not getting a wolf vibe off Lathum thus far, so in deciding between Danny and Pass, its a matter of who I want to put pressure on..

VOTE PASS

Okay, the pressure's on me -- what do you want that pressure to do?

[The Jackal]

Okay, the pressure's on me -- what do you want that pressure to do?

Sweat? I donno. Either your hand is going to be forced or votes are going to move around. Its unfortunate that not everyone will be around at deadline, but lessee what shakes up.

[DaddyTorgo]

Vote Count

Abe - 0 now
Pass - Danny (62), Lathum (120), Jackyl (138)
Lathum - EagleFan (73), Pass (100), PackerFanatic (103)
Danny - Poli (74), DT (114), USFL (133)
Poli - Schmidty (89)

Still to vote: Abe

[Passacaglia]

Sweat? I donno. Either your hand is going to be forced or votes are going to move around. Its unfortunate that not everyone will be around at deadline, but lessee what shakes up.

Are you talking about forcing my hand to switch my vote for Danny? Yeah, as it is now, it probably would be forced. So it's definitely pressure, but in a way, it kind of takes the decision-making out of it for me. Then again, maybe you all have had enough of my decision-making anyway, with my earlier vote-switching.

[DaddyTorgo]

Are you talking about forcing my hand to switch my vote for Danny? Yeah, as it is now, it probably would be forced. So it's definitely pressure, but in a way, it kind of takes the decision-making out of it for me. Then again, maybe you all have had enough of my decision-making anyway, with my earlier vote-switching.

you could switch and vote for lathum too ya know and win the tiebreaker. just pointing that out

[DaddyTorgo]

and Abe still needs to vote...

[The Jackal]

i'm interested to see what Abe does

[Passacaglia]

Personally, unless someone else shows up and switches their votes, I think the real pressure is on Abe and Danny.

If Abe votes me or Lathum, he pretty much puts the nail in the coffin there. If he votes Danny, then Lathum gets screwed (assuming that Danny shows up to move his vote). And if he votes outside of those three, he's guilty of chickening out (a valid strategy that I employed last game), and the lynch is left to whatever happens with me and Danny.

As for Danny, if he shows up, he's got to sense that I'm on the block now, and I'd be looking to vote him to save myself. His best way to save himself, IMO, is to vote Lathum, but the vote counts are low enough that he could bring in a 4th candidate and see what flies there -- though my guess is that not many people would be looking to join him in switching this late. So maybe he doesn't have that many options after all.

[Passacaglia]

you could switch and vote for lathum too ya know and win the tiebreaker. just pointing that out

O RLY? :)

[Schmidty]

When Schmidty voted there were already 4 candidates who had at least 1 vote, why introduce a new candidate by voting Poli?

Because it's tradition for the first day.

[The Jackal]

Pass can double vote? ;)

[Passacaglia]

Pass can double vote? ;)

I once had a cat with only 3 legs, so if anything I should only get 3/4 of a vote, rather than two. :)

[The Jackal]

Because it's tradition for the first day.

It's also deflection when it gets to that many candidates. First person to put the second vote on someone usually gets heat.

[DaddyTorgo]

O RLY? :)

didn't know if you realized that or not...lol

but i agree with your assesment of the situation and i think it could potentially tell us a lot

[DaddyTorgo]

okay okay - i just obviously cannot read...lol

[Passacaglia]

didn't know if you realized that or not...lol

but i agree with your assesment of the situation and i think it could potentially tell us a lot

I guess I was just trying to say that I'm already on Lathum, so I can't really switch to him.

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah yeah i'm a stoop

[Schmidty]

It's also deflection when it gets to that many candidates. First person to put the second vote on someone usually gets heat.

Meh. I always vote Poli on day 1. If it looks bad, oh well. I'll never break tradition damnit!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

I once knew a man with a wooden leg named Smith...

[The Jackal]

Aren't we a lively bunch.

[DaddyTorgo]

I once knew a man with a wooden leg named Smith...

What was the name of his other leg??

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
:lol:

[DaddyTorgo]

hosers. no Mary Poppins fans in the house?

[Lathum]

interesting development here.

I could move my vote off Pass and cast it to Danny giving myself some room, but I just dont get a wolf vide from Danny.

[Passacaglia]

interesting development here.

I could move my vote off Pass and cast it to Danny giving myself some room, but I just dont get a wolf vide from Danny.

There'd be no reason for you to do that to save yourself, anyway, unless Abe votes for you and Danny switches from me to you. What is it about Danny that doesn't give you this vibe, anyway?

[Lathum]

There'd be no reason for you to do that to save yourself, anyway, unless Abe votes for you and Danny switches from me to you. What is it about Danny that doesn't give you this vibe, anyway?

he hasn't done anything to stand out, as opposed to you who flip flopped for no valid reason.

Right now I am standing pat, if I go down so be it.

[Passacaglia]

I wonder if we should start talking about what would happen if Abe doesn't show up to vote. I'm thinking we might have all villagers here. If we didn't, would the wolves have let this happen? I'd been thinking they might be waiting for Abe's vote (since that's what I'm doing), but they'd have to know that voting to save someone after Abe votes would be suspicious.

[Passacaglia]

he hasn't done anything to stand out, as opposed to you who flip flopped for no valid reason.

Right now I am standing pat, if I go down so be it.

I would say that generally, wolves try not to stand out.

[The Jackal]

We certainly could have 3 villagers here, but I donno if there's anything to go on as far as a good candidate to switch votes to.

[Passacaglia]

Well it looks like Abe is here anyway. You're up, dude.

[Abe Sargent]

Wow, you guys really put me on the hot spot didn;t ya?

[Lathum]

Wow, you guys really put me on the hot spot didn;t ya?

I suggest you vote Passacaglia

[Passacaglia]

I suggest you vote Passacaglia

I suggest you vote for Door #2.

[Abe Sargent]

Well, I don;t see Danny as a legit candidate.

Passa sort of defended me, which I'm always suspicious of

I really feel like I had to work hard to get Lathum to open up and then he diced into another for not being detailed when he himself was not initially.

Vote Lathum

[Abe Sargent]

Normally I prolly would have voted Poli, cause I don;t like people voting due to previous game issues.

[Passacaglia]

Let's do this thang.

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE DANNY

[Lathum]

WTF was that Pass?

[Abe Sargent]

?

[Abe Sargent]

Unvote Lathum
Vote Pass

[Abe Sargent]

That's just way too wierd

[DaddyTorgo]

Vote Count

Abe - 0 now
Pass - Danny (62), Lathum (120), Jackyl (138), Abe (177)
Lathum - EagleFan (73), PackerFanatic (103)
Danny - Poli (74), DT (114), USFL (133), Pass (174)
Poli - Schmidty (89)

[Passacaglia]

That's a bad move.

[Abe Sargent]

Come on, move off Lathum and onto Danny/passa, because this has gotten really weird really fast.

[Passacaglia]

My take is that Abe made the vote to save Danny, so Danny has to go. Either that, or we're all-villager here.

[Lathum]

My take is that Abe made the vote to save Danny, so Danny has to go. Either that, or we're all-villager here.

why the late switch?

[Passacaglia]

Come on, move off Lathum and onto Danny/passa, because this has gotten really weird really fast.

huh?

[Passacaglia]

why the late switch?

Doesn't the post you're quoting answer that? Abe voted for you to save Danny, so I think we need to see what's up with Danny.

[Abe Sargent]

huh?

Tie right now, so Lathum's not going, the two on Lathum can force either you ro Danny to go. So long as someone bites it. No ties.

[The Jackal]

There aren't any ties. Longest standing vote wins.

[Passacaglia]

Tie right now, so Lathum's not going, the two on Lathum can force either you ro Danny to go. So long as someone bites it. No ties.

I already posted the tiebreak rules -- longest held vote gets the lynch.

[Abe Sargent]

There aren't any ties. Longest standing vote wins.

Thanks, didn;t see that.

[The Jackal]

Which means your vote on Pass seals his fate as of now, Abe.

[Passacaglia]

Does my move really seem like something a wolf would do here? Abe votes to save Danny, then when I vote FOR Danny, he pushes me.

[Passacaglia]

Which means your vote on Pass seals his fate as of now, Abe.

Hi The Jackal -- you can change your vote.. :)

[Passacaglia]

We got 4-4 now, The Jackal, your vote can change it all up.

[Abe Sargent]

Which means your vote on Pass seals his fate as of now, Abe.

I figured that out when I saw it. Damn it! I don;t know what's going on and I'm the middle of trying to kick out two of my residents for threatening the life of a third, so I'm in and out. Fine, you guys figure this out. I never wanted to be kingmaker anyway.

Unvote Passa
Vote Poli

It's who I wanted to vote for all along. Like , love it, hate it, whatever. Move on.

[Passacaglia]

Lathum -- why would I do this, if I were a wolf? To save you? You *know* that's not true. The villager play here would be for you to switch to Danny.

[Abe Sargent]

I'll be back later. I'm out.

[claphamsa]

Abe - 0 now
Pass - Danny (62), Lathum (120), Jackyl (138)
Lathum - EagleFan (73), PackerFanatic (103)
Danny - Poli (74), DT (114), USFL (133), Pass (174)
Poli - Schmidty (89), abe (194)

[DaddyTorgo]

yoinks!

[claphamsa]

deadline... I have lots of PMs so keep calm

[Passacaglia]

Nothing like an interesting Day 1 Deadline! :)

[DaddyTorgo]

that was hmmm....unusual

[claphamsa]

Danny is lynched... hes a kitten

Packerfanatic is night killed... hes a kitten


Pms going out

[The Jackal]

Very interesting.

[The Jackal]

Bah, that sucks. At least we didn't lose any roled players though.

[Passacaglia]

Danny is lynched... hes a kitten

Packerfanatic is night killed... hes a kitten


Pms going out

Ah, crap.

[claphamsa]

Ok, think i got all pms out.. let me know if i missed you....

[DaddyTorgo]

damnit - but what Jackel said

[Lathum]

flip flopping all over the place then sealing a villagers fate doesn't look so good PAss

[The Jackal]

Schmidty killed PF. I'm the stray.

Early reveal, but we need to nail a dog here.

VOTE SCHMIDTY

[Abe Sargent]

After that shindig, I trust Lathum more and will not be voting him today.

[Abe Sargent]

Vote Schmidity

[Passacaglia]

flip flopping all over the place then sealing a villagers fate doesn't look so good PAss

Again Lathum, think about what my motive would have been if I were a wolf. You were the one in the lead when I made the switch -- was I saving you? Don't tell me that's what you think!

[Passacaglia]

VOTE SCHMIDTY

[Passacaglia]

After that shindig, I trust Lathum more and will not be voting him today.

Can you elaborate on that?

[Abe Sargent]

If Lathum were a wolf, he would have had plenty of opportunity for more self serving actions then. Instead he just watched the fireworks.

[Danny]

Hmmm, bad time to miss deadline

[Abe Sargent]

I trust Lathum pretty strongly as a result.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty killed PF. I'm the stray.

Early reveal, but we need to nail a dog here.

VOTE SCHMIDTY

Unbelievable. I'm the f-ing stray, and I followed Lathum last night and he was clean.

So, either there are two strays, or the Jackal is a dog.

VOTE JACKAL

[Passacaglia]

If Lathum were a wolf, he would have had plenty of opportunity for more self serving actions then. Instead he just watched the fireworks.

What self serving actions could he have done?

[Schmidty]

I'm really pissed about this. I've never had a false-reveal turned on me. What the hell was he thinking? How did he find out my role, and why would he expose himself this early? To cause confusion?

I'm stumped.

[Danny]

I know I'm dead, but it's funny watching you guys argue over who the stray is. Role check please

[Lathum]

hmm, ok

Can Jackal and Schmidy each reveal why they chose the person they followed?

[Lathum]

VOTE JACKAL


wanna keep things close

[PackerFanatic]

But...I...

damnit!

Go villagers :)

[Danny]

NVM, I had the role wrong. I'll go back to being dead now

[The Jackal]

I'm really pissed about this. I've never had a false-reveal turned on me. What the hell was he thinking? How did he find out my role, and why would he expose himself this early? To cause confusion?

I'm stumped.

I came out this early because we're two kittens down and I saw no need to withhold information. Fake being pissed as much as you want. There'd be no reason for me to reveal this early in the day unless I'm telling the truth.

[Schmidty]

I followed you because of the back-and-forth between you, Abe and Pass. I figured that one of you is a dog, so I just picked you.

[The Jackal]

hmm, ok

Can Jackal and Schmidy each reveal why they chose the person they followed?

I followed PF because he was very quiet and put a vote in the middle of things, I figured he'd be a decent change at being a quiet wolf or a wolf target.

[The Jackal]

*chance

[The Jackal]

Especially since there's normally no mechanism for a wolf to know if he was spied on by the spy role.

[Schmidty]

I came out this early because we're two kittens down and I saw no need to withhold information. Fake being pissed as much as you want. There'd be no reason for me to reveal this early in the day unless I'm telling the truth.

Play it cool. Good job.

I don't get this whole situation. And regardless of what you said, I am pissed because I'm confused as hell.

Is there a hidden "Suicide Bomber" role or something?

[Danny]

Good luck kitties

[Passacaglia]

I followed PF because he was very quiet and put a vote in the middle of things, I figured he'd be a decent change at being a quiet wolf or a wolf target.

Uh...hmm.

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY

[Abe Sargent]

No way I believe there are two strays in this game.

[The Jackal]

Uh...hmm.

UNVOTE SCHMIDTY

Uh.. why?

[Passacaglia]

Uh.. why?

Who did you follow?

[The Jackal]

You can all ask me whatever you like.. I've explained why I chose PF and I was lucky enough to choose the person that got killed. I could've slow played it and tried to get Schmidty out without revealing, but I also explained why I revealed this early.

[The Jackal]

Who did you follow?

PF?

[Schmidty]

Uh.. why?

You know why. Go ahead and fake surprise, maybe it'll muddy up the water for your pack of doggies. Methinks you made a bad move.

[The Jackal]

At least you're making it interesting, Schmidty.

[The Jackal]

Even if they ended up lynching me, you'd be next. And I'm sure I'll be a night kill either tonight or the next. But that's fine with me, gives the seer more time.

[Schmidty]

Well, I need to go take a shower and eat. I'll be back later.

[The Jackal]

And I highly suggest we get this lynch right because going down 0-2 is never good, even if they were un-roled players.

[The Jackal]

Well, I need to go take a shower and eat. I'll be back later.

Food sounds good. Ditto.

[Passacaglia]

PF?

Oh, I get it. I thought that you had to follow Schmidty to get this info, and that you said you followed PF mistakenly. Looking at the rules, it still seems like that's the case. Wouldn't you have had to follow Schmidty to find out what Schmidty is doing?

[Passacaglia]

Stray- You are a kitten, but after years of life on the streets you have seen enough to turn your fur white, and your aura dark. You may chose to follow anyone any night, and you will know what they are doing.


I guess I can see it either way, thinking about it more.

[Lathum]

Stray- You are a kitten, but after years of life on the streets you have seen enough to turn your fur white, and your aura dark. You may chose to follow anyone any night, and you will know what they are doing.<o></o>


Schmidty killed PF. I'm the stray.

Early reveal, but we need to nail a dog here.

VOTE SCHMIDTY


OK, something doesn't add up.

You claimed you followed Packerfanatic, yet the role states you will know what the person you followed is doing. The way I read the role you would have to have followed the killer. It just seems to powerfull a role otherwise.

You have 10 people to follow, if you select either the killer or the victim you will identify the killer? Plus we have a seer and a BG, seems a tad unbalanced.

[The Jackal]

Since I was following PF, I saw what happened to him. That's usually how I've seen spy roles work.

[Lathum]

me and Pass are on the same page here

[Passacaglia]

me and Pass are on the same page here

Now THAT's weird.