View Full Version : Defensive Help
Danoschar
11-21-2010, 06:00 AM
hi all,
I need some help with my defense on SP. I run the Albionmoonlight's 4-3 Cover 2 Bump and Run Defense, and I am using the version 6.3 for now.
However, my defense is getting destroyed a lot of the time - especially in the passing game. When setting up the defense for extreme passing situations, I don't have an option for 3 deep bnR or 4 deep bnr - I can only select 3 deep zone, or 4 deep zone.
Does anyone have a suggestion of what I can do? My cbs are all great in BnR, but not zone.
Please help, my offensive is always either 1 or 2.......
Thanks.
Dutch
11-21-2010, 07:17 AM
I'm going to suspect that your 2-deep BnR coverage is getting eaten alive by deep passing attacks. Check out this nifty little breakdown of formation strengths and weaknesses generated from info in the help file. Based on this, trying to emphasize the 2-deep BnR **against all offenses** is bad business.
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"poor TE's" means a TE that is not targetted often
Danoschar
11-21-2010, 07:26 AM
that is very helpful. I will have do some ammending. I am sick of wasting my amazing offense.
Hammer
11-21-2010, 12:12 PM
So you don't use M2M at all? Any more than 50% of any call and your asking for trouble. The offense will become familiar with the defense.
Danoschar
11-26-2010, 07:21 PM
No, I thought I would try the albionmoonlight to give me something to work from. Now I have seen its issues I can try and counter them. This is still my first ever game btw.
damelloman888
12-24-2010, 10:06 AM
hi all,
I need some help with my defense on SP. I run the Albionmoonlight's 4-3 Cover 2 Bump and Run Defense, and I am using the version 6.3 for now.
However, my defense is getting destroyed a lot of the time - especially in the passing game. When setting up the defense for extreme passing situations, I don't have an option for 3 deep bnR or 4 deep bnr - I can only select 3 deep zone, or 4 deep zone.
Does anyone have a suggestion of what I can do? My cbs are all great in BnR, but not zone.
Please help, my offensive is always either 1 or 2.......
Thanks.
The 3 deep and 4 deep puts all players in a zone -- there are not enough players underneath to b-n-r or m-f-m.
Find or corner who is good at zone for your 3rd cb and play nickle.
Dutch
12-24-2010, 12:24 PM
On the Dime package screen, it states "Nickel Cornerback & Dime Safety". That's always led me to believe that my Nickel should have good M2M skills and my Dime should have good Zone skills. All things being equal, that is. I'm probably wrong, but that's how I'll try and line it up if I'm thinking about it.
damelloman888
12-24-2010, 08:26 PM
On the Dime package screen, it states "Nickel Cornerback & Dime Safety". That's always led me to believe that my Nickel should have good M2M skills and my Dime should have good Zone skills. All things being equal, that is. I'm probably wrong, but that's how I'll try and line it up if I'm thinking about it.
You may be right, but if you play 3-deep, someone else beside a safty has to be in a deep zone... so if you are in regular... who is that? Probably a CB. If you are in nickle... probably your extra CB. If you are in dime... probably your extra safty.... you can never be sure in the game but I think so.
Dano said he has two great b-n-r corners... but he needs to "mix it up" so the opposing QB does not become familiry with his "cover-2".
You may be right, but if you play 3-deep, someone else beside a safty has to be in a deep zone... so if you are in regular... who is that? Probably a CB. If you are in nickle... probably your extra CB. If you are in dime... probably your extra safty.... you can never be sure in the game but I think so.
Dano said he has two great b-n-r corners... but he needs to "mix it up" so the opposing QB does not become familiry with his "cover-2".
If you are in your base defense the WLB/WILB is the player that is dropped back in 3-deep coverage.
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