WW CXXXVIII EVIL DEAD: Dead By Dawn # MAIN CABIN # NETER all you want! GAME OVER!

[tyketime]

... Is Bhlloy really alone in the study for two days? That's weird.

You hear a blast of gunfire in the room next door.

I've been trying to figure out this "flavor". I wasn't sure if the room next door was the Study vs the Cellar. I would have thought if it was the cellar, we might have heard a sound "beneath us". So... if it in fact is the Study, I fear something may have happened to him.

But Autumn, keep in mind that to go from one room to another, investigate that room, and then return is a three day journey. If Bhlloy returns to the Main Room tomorrow, then we can reasonably suspect that sequence of events. I still want to know about the gunfire though...

[tyketime]

That is a strategy that can't possibly benefit the village. If you are positive all three of you were villagers and you hadn't encountered anyone else who had seemed fishy then you have to vote no lynch. Anything else is doing the Deadites work.
I gotta say dubb (and I did mention it in an earlier post), NONE of us ever even considered a "no lynch" scenario.

[dubb93]

I gotta say dubb (and I did mention it in an earlier post), NONE of us ever even considered a "no lynch" scenario.

I read back through page 3. Will re-read the rest later. I saw where you mentioned that, but it doesn't make you look any better in my eyes. "Sorry judge, in hindsight I probably shouldn't have done that." "Agreed, you are free to go."

Just doesn't work with me.

[Commo_Soldier]

Thing is with a scenario where NTN is being pushed as a candidate to save DV is that unless the baddies are allowed access to all threads (not inconceivable) one of the baddies must have been in the Yard and voted DV, which seems a bit of a stretch but also not inconceivable.

I think I agree with Danny - we ought to hang here for at least one more turn to let Bhlloy and anyone out in the yard catch up with us. The other option would be to go to the Yard to, hopefully, meet the people from the Woods, who are probably on the trail now and will be in the yard tomorrow.

Re-reading this entire thread for clues I've just come up with a case against chief that revolves around this. I believe it is entirely possible that wolves can check other threads. In fact look at chiefs posts from #169 on for about the next 10 or so posts. I believe he forgot he could check them and made a mistake by posting that he went back as I thought it was fairly obvious we were not to go back into rooms after we left them. Maybe this post and other attacks on him from Narc is why he was night killed. Additionally I really am skeptical of the whole ntn thing now that was brought up and am not sure if Autumn can be trusted, but as noted chief, for what ever reason voted for NTN, despite not ever being in the same room, too when he was night killed. To me he is just screaming wolf so much so that.

Vote Chief

I'd also be open for Autumn, but Chief just really sticks out to me.

[CrimsonFox]

http://www.monstershack.net/reviews/full/gfx/evildead/cellar.jpg

[CrimsonFox]

Things are happy and calm. No one has died for a few minutes. YOu sit around and tell stories.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ45AsqkRYd84idYDv_e2V0q049zEvce_HCigAxsbt4-gDWJMLaN6opUZIO

[CrimsonFox]

This is a NICE cabin!

http://inkandpixelclub.com/wp-content/uploads/images/snowwhite/sw3-01.jpg

[dzilla77]

Re-reading this entire thread for clues I've just come up with a case against chief that revolves around this. I believe it is entirely possible that wolves can check other threads. In fact look at chiefs posts from #169 on for about the next 10 or so posts. I believe he forgot he could check them and made a mistake by posting that he went back as I thought it was fairly obvious we were not to go back into rooms after we left them. Maybe this post and other attacks on him from Narc is why he was night killed. Additionally I really am skeptical of the whole ntn thing now that was brought up and am not sure if Autumn can be trusted, but as noted chief, for what ever reason voted for NTN, despite not ever being in the same room, too when he was night killed. To me he is just screaming wolf so much so that.

Vote Chief

I'd also be open for Autumn, but Chief just really sticks out to me.

This logic seems pretty sound to me also.

Vote Chief

[dzilla77]

Also, is there deadline tonight or is it Sunday or Monday? With the game being split between threads, the normal way of communicating deadlines is missing.

[CrimsonFox]

Monday. That's why I am posting info in every thread.

[Autumn]

Oh I can't forget. Autumn blatantly role fished. On day 3 he voted DV with the pretense of "I don't think anyone in this game has a role."

How is anyone supposed to disagree with that without role revealing. Clearly he was looking for a role reveal.

That is not role fishing, it's a comment about the game, and its rules, just like we make in every game of WW. I didn't ask "Does anyone think there are roles in the game? If so, please tlel me." I said that I didn't think there are roles. Each villager has a specialty, and there are items, it seems to me there are likely no regular roles.

[Autumn]

Simple. Autumn came flying into the woods with DV, Bug, Jackal, and I. At that point both Bug and Jackal had described NtN as having run off from their thread. They both said he had a disgusting appearance as he ran off with crazy hair and crooked teeth. Clearly he was a Deadite if he looked like that.

So we all agreed to vote him. Autumn shows up and claims that he doesn't believe there was anything to that. He thinks it was flavor. He then plays dumb for about the next 4 hours on everything else before eventually agreeing to vote NtN.

Part one. For those who were not there, we had 3 votes on NTN in our thread. At deadline, when results came up, we were told that NTN looked crazed and ran away. My interpretation at the time was that this was the result of the lynch. He disappeared from the thread, and I figured that CF's flavor for a lynch was going to be that we ran that person off, out of the game.

He was described as having funny teeth and hair. I have not seen these movies, so I did not realize that meant anything useful. He was not revealed as being bad, and subsequently disappeared, at lynch time, so I figured he was lynched and we weren't going ot get role reveals in this game.

When I showed up in their thread I disagreed with the idea of voting NTN because I thought he was likely dead. When I went back and read the rules I "backtracked" and realized we should have seen a corpse if he was dead, so I agreed he must still be in the game somehow.

I would like to point out that from the description here it doesn't sound like NTN was bad, or at least like we're not going to get any reveal of allegiance from death.

Dubb was very alarmed that I wasn't just going along wit the group on this, and that I then changed my mind when reading the rules on death. I don't believe that villagers need to go along with the group, and I believe that villagers should change thier minds when corrected by the rules. So that's that. I also don't believe a wolf shows up and argues for four hours about not voting another wolf.

[Autumn]

Later in the evening I mentioned a letter with gibberish I had found. At the time I didn't know it was in my inventory, I thought I discarded it. Autumn agrees with this and says he doesn't think it is an item b/c he saw one in his thread. Turns out I did have the letter. Autumn backtracks so heavily here I think he might have his own tire tracks on him.

All the while Autumn pushed us forward to the yard.

The next day Autumn again tried to corral us in here. Almost like he has an agenda to get us all here. He was overly pushy.

I was not pushy. I suggested where it would probably be best for us to go. Like a villager does, when playing Werewolf. I am not the kind of villager who sits back, doesn't suggest actions, and then picks apart other people's ideas. I don't think that's a useful strategy.

I did indeed see CF describe in the Road thread a parchment with strange writing, and the sound of strange voices. I then saw a face in the clouds, a wind pick me up and take me to the Woods. You know, Dubb, that I ended up in the Woods in the middle of the day, so it does not seem surprising that there was flavor text that went along with that action. The fact that it included a parchment, and you also found a parchment does not seem alarming to me. What I saw was not an item you could pick up. I'm glad you found an item you can pick up.

[Autumn]

Bug mentions he had a weapon but it was taken from him on N2 by the picture. He doesn't know what picture or why just that it took it. Autumn agrees with this assessment saying he has a weapon too and it could have been taken.

Bug says something along the lines of he had no idea it could be taken and called Autumn on the comment. I'm really not sure exactly what Autumn said here but it struck me as fishy too. I believe he also claimed to have seen the picture too? Said it could have taken his weapon but didn't?

I've explained this several times to you Dubb. I have an item. I had my item almost taken away from me during the lynch. So I know that it's possible to lose an item. Thus I said that I agreed that Bug was probably telling the truth. This is useful information for a villager to pass along, and how we help find the wolves. A wolf would not declare that he had an item and help vouch for another player.

[Autumn]

Autumn then went to say that every player in the game except for 2 had passed through the cabin and that we must head there. My comment was how the hell do you know that? I still don't know how in the hell he knows that. The guy had never been to the cabin. How does he know everyone except 2 players had been there? This was what put me over the top on him.

I have also explained this several times. Has it made sense to you, Jackal? I posted the list of information we've collected several times a day. By looking at the list it is obvious that Zinto and Mckerney were on either the trail or the woods. there is no other possible location for them to have traveled to, this is proven by the daily location information. We know where they started, we know where it's possible to travel, we know where we have been. That is the only place they could be, its some simple analysis of the location information.

And it is in fact why I've kept these detailed notes, so we could figure things like this out. I feel like you're just battering me, Dubb, for doing a good job as a villager. Would it be more useful if I had not kept those notes and we had no idea where anyone was, or what items they might have?

[Autumn]

Autumn and I also had an argument yesterday over my idea that areas would be closing each day at random to eventually "force" us all here. That was my idea on D2 and on D3 Autumn tried to play it off as his own.

Just something isn't adding up with this guy.

You disagree with me about what happened. If we were back in that thread we could solve the question. But disagreeing about what was said doesn't make me a wolf, any more than it makes you a wolf for disagreeing with me.

I'm sorry if these replies came off as heated, I'm finding it bothered me more than it probably should. I feel like all of these are really off target reasons to suspect me, and in fact are a good list of the well-formed analysis I've brought to the game. I obviously haven't explained them well to you, since you don't seem to understand any of the points I've made. Maybe Jackal can step in and let us know if I've made any sense to him.

[Autumn]

So, I guess Bug stayed in the Yard? I think maybe he forgot to put in an investigate order? I was thinking he was coming with us.

Day One

*Road - Autumn, The Jackal, Zinto, NTNdeacon, MrBug708
3 votes for NTN (jackal, mrbug, ?), 1 for mrbug (me) 1 for ?

*Trail - Darth Vilus, Dubb, Mauboy, Commo, Dzilla
3 votes for no lynch

*Yard - bhlloy, mckerny, J23
1-1-1 vote

Study - tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (finds spell here?), Narcizo
3 votes for Danny


Day Two

*Road - Autumn (later gone to Woods)

*Trail - Zinto, Mckerney

*Woods - The Jackal, MrBug (finds knife), Dubb (finds paper), Darth Vilus, (later Autumn)
4 votes for NTN (darth no show)

*Yard - Commo, Dzilla, Mauboy
3 votes for Darth

*Cabin - Bhlloy, J23, Danny, NTNdeacon (dies)

Study - Tyketime, Chief Rum, Narcizo


Day Three

Trail -

Woods - Darth Vilus (likely lynched)

*Yard - Jackal, Autumn, Dubb, MrBug708 (loses knife)
3 votes DV (no vote bug)

*Cabin - Commo, Mauboy, Dzilla, Narcizo (dies night 3), Tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (has knife, has spell), J23

Study - Bhlloy


Day Four

Cellar - Chief Rum, Mauboy

Cabin - Commo, Dzilla, Tyketime, Danny (later left), J23, Jackal, Autumn, Dubb

Yard - MrBug 708

Study - Bhlloy

Woods - (Zinto, Mckerney, Darth) (Danny?)



*Complete roster

Trail leads to Woods or Yard (or Road??)
Trail was investigated by Zinto, Mckerney

Road leads to Trail or Woods
*Road was investigated by Autumn+

Woods leads to Trail, Road or Yard
*Woods was investigated by Dubb+, Darth, Jackal, Mr.Bug+

Yard leads to Trail, Woods, Cabin
*Yard was investigated by Common, Dzilla, Mauboy

Cabin leads to Yard, Study, Cellar
*Cabin was investigated by Bhlloy, J23

[Autumn]

Slight edit for clarity

Day One

*Road - Autumn, The Jackal, Zinto, NTNdeacon, MrBug708
3 votes for NTN (jackal, mrbug, ?), 1 for mrbug (me) 1 for ?

*Trail - Darth Vilus, Dubb, Mauboy, Commo, Dzilla
3 votes for no lynch

*Yard - bhlloy, mckerny, J23
1-1-1 vote

Study - tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (finds spell here?), Narcizo
3 votes for Danny


Day Two

*Road - Autumn (later gone to Woods)

*Trail - Zinto, Mckerney

*Woods - The Jackal, MrBug (finds knife), Dubb (finds paper), Darth Vilus, (later Autumn)
4 votes for NTN (darth no show)

*Yard - Commo, Dzilla, Mauboy
3 votes for Darth

*Cabin - Bhlloy, J23, Danny, NTNdeacon (dies)

Study - Tyketime, Chief Rum, Narcizo


Day Three

Trail or Woods - Zinto, Mckerney

Woods - Darth Vilus (likely lynched)

*Yard - Jackal, Autumn, Dubb, MrBug708 (loses knife)
3 votes DV (no vote bug)

*Cabin - Commo, Mauboy, Dzilla, Narcizo (dies night 3), Tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (has knife, has spell), J23

Study - Bhlloy


Day Four

Cellar - Chief Rum, Mauboy

Cabin - Commo, Dzilla, Tyketime, Danny (later left), J23, Jackal, Autumn, Dubb

Yard - MrBug 708

Study - Bhlloy

Woods or Yard - (Zinto, Mckerney, Darth) (Danny in Woods?)



*Complete roster

Trail leads to Woods or Yard (or Road??)
Trail was investigated by Zinto, Mckerney

Road leads to Trail or Woods
*Road was investigated by Autumn+

Woods leads to Trail, Road or Yard
*Woods was investigated by Dubb+, Darth, Jackal, Mr.Bug+

Yard leads to Trail, Woods, Cabin
*Yard was investigated by Common, Dzilla, Mauboy

Cabin leads to Yard, Study, Cellar
*Cabin was investigated by Bhlloy, J23

[dubb93]

Vote Autumn

You don't want to argue, fine. I will leave it at that. BTW Jackal said he knows exactly what I am talking about when I called you out in the yard. IDK for a fact, but I don't think he's going to come in and label my fears as baseless.

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief - Commo_soldier (254) dzilla77 (258)
Autumn - dubb (269)

INVESTIGATES:
None

[CrimsonFox]

Someone tries to lighten the mood by playing a tune on the piano. It is a mournful and sad tune, in the key of D...minor, the saddest of all keys.
Another of you spins around and around to the music, dancing in a circle.

[Autumn]

Vote Autumn

You don't want to argue, fine. I will leave it at that. BTW Jackal said he knows exactly what I am talking about when I called you out in the yard. IDK for a fact, but I don't think he's going to come in and label my fears as baseless.

What does that mean, I don't want to argue? I just posted like a 12 page essay about each of your points. Do you have any response to my response? I feel I keep answering your questions but I never get anything back from you.

[dubb93]

That is not role fishing, it's a comment about the game, and its rules, just like we make in every game of WW. I didn't ask "Does anyone think there are roles in the game? If so, please tlel me." I said that I didn't think there are roles. Each villager has a specialty, and there are items, it seems to me there are likely no regular roles.

Was role fishing in the most blatant form and still is. There is no way for anyone to argue this short or role revealing. For some reason you seem to want this it would appear.

[dubb93]

Part one. For those who were not there, we had 3 votes on NTN in our thread. At deadline, when results came up, we were told that NTN looked crazed and ran away. My interpretation at the time was that this was the result of the lynch. He disappeared from the thread, and I figured that CF's flavor for a lynch was going to be that we ran that person off, out of the game.

He was described as having funny teeth and hair. I have not seen these movies, so I did not realize that meant anything useful. He was not revealed as being bad, and subsequently disappeared, at lynch time, so I figured he was lynched and we weren't going ot get role reveals in this game.

When I showed up in their thread I disagreed with the idea of voting NTN because I thought he was likely dead. When I went back and read the rules I "backtracked" and realized we should have seen a corpse if he was dead, so I agreed he must still be in the game somehow.

I would like to point out that from the description here it doesn't sound like NTN was bad, or at least like we're not going to get any reveal of allegiance from death.

Dubb was very alarmed that I wasn't just going along wit the group on this, and that I then changed my mind when reading the rules on death. I don't believe that villagers need to go along with the group, and I believe that villagers should change thier minds when corrected by the rules. So that's that. I also don't believe a wolf shows up and argues for four hours about not voting another wolf.

You are entitled to your beliefs and I mine.

[dubb93]

I was not pushy. I suggested where it would probably be best for us to go. Like a villager does, when playing Werewolf. I am not the kind of villager who sits back, doesn't suggest actions, and then picks apart other people's ideas. I don't think that's a useful strategy.

I did indeed see CF describe in the Road thread a parchment with strange writing, and the sound of strange voices. I then saw a face in the clouds, a wind pick me up and take me to the Woods. You know, Dubb, that I ended up in the Woods in the middle of the day, so it does not seem surprising that there was flavor text that went along with that action. The fact that it included a parchment, and you also found a parchment does not seem alarming to me. What I saw was not an item you could pick up. I'm glad you found an item you can pick up.

I just find it hard to believe that I see a parchment and you see one. That bug has a weapon so then you have one and then bug loses his and you say you could have lost yours. If I claim to live in medieval times will you claim to be a knight of the round table? Where does this end?

[dubb93]

I just find it hard to believe that I see a parchment and you see one. That bug has a weapon so then you have one and then bug loses his and you say you could have lost yours. If I claim to live in medieval times will you claim to be a knight of the round table? Where does this end?

Bug sees a picture that he knows nothing about and you back him up and claim to see the picture too.......Trying awfully hard to attach yourself to people here.

[dubb93]

I have also explained this several times. Has it made sense to you, Jackal? I posted the list of information we've collected several times a day. By looking at the list it is obvious that Zinto and Mckerney were on either the trail or the woods. there is no other possible location for them to have traveled to, this is proven by the daily location information. We know where they started, we know where it's possible to travel, we know where we have been. That is the only place they could be, its some simple analysis of the location information.

And it is in fact why I've kept these detailed notes, so we could figure things like this out. I feel like you're just battering me, Dubb, for doing a good job as a villager. Would it be more useful if I had not kept those notes and we had no idea where anyone was, or what items they might have?

Don't Backtrack Autumn. You said we need to go to the cabin bc every loving player except 2 had been there. I don't think you had nearly enough info at the time to know that every char but 2 had been to the main cabin room. How did you know those who started in the study had been there? How did you know the other two hadn't flown in. Was too dead on of a call with too many unknowns for me to believe it wasn't a slip up.

[dubb93]

You disagree with me about what happened. If we were back in that thread we could solve the question. But disagreeing about what was said doesn't make me a wolf, any more than it makes you a wolf for disagreeing with me.

I'm sorry if these replies came off as heated, I'm finding it bothered me more than it probably should. I feel like all of these are really off target reasons to suspect me, and in fact are a good list of the well-formed analysis I've brought to the game. I obviously haven't explained them well to you, since you don't seem to understand any of the points I've made. Maybe Jackal can step in and let us know if I've made any sense to him.

What if I stole you day decals, played them off as my own, and then argued with you that they were mine not yours. This just one day after saying arguing we didn't need them. Would that not strike you as odd?

[dubb93]

Decals=recaps

Flipping autocorrect

[dubb93]

Don't Backtrack Autumn. You said we need to go to the cabin bc every loving player except 2 had been there. I don't think you had nearly enough info at the time to know that every char but 2 had been to the main cabin room. How did you know those who started in the study had been there? How did you know the other two hadn't flown in. Was too dead on of a call with too many unknowns for me to believe it wasn't a slip up.

Loving=living

[tyketime]

I'm hoping to gain a better understanding of the objects and their effects today before tonight's vote.

So far, I think we have a gun and knife (not necessarily in the Main Room with us, but "in play"), as well as at least two parchments. What am I missing?

[tyketime]

I also hope Jackal gives us his non-biased opinion of the dubb vs Autumn debate.

[tyketime]

I would also say that there was a fairly strong opinion on Day 1 & 2 (at least in the Study) that we should all try to congregate together to gather information and stay stronger in numbers. But it doesn't seem like we've actually accomplished that yet. I posted it before, but I do want to look at those who continue to try to keep the group moving (and thus less likely to all be together in the same room). I know we have to balance investigations, and so I am interested in what the rest of you think. It just seems to me that Team Evil has the advantage if groups of 2-3 go their separate ways. Details can be lost or blatantly lied about if there aren't more witnesses to the actual crime.

[Autumn]

Don't Backtrack Autumn. You said we need to go to the cabin bc every loving player except 2 had been there. I don't think you had nearly enough info at the time to know that every char but 2 had been to the main cabin room. How did you know those who started in the study had been there? How did you know the other two hadn't flown in. Was too dead on of a call with too many unknowns for me to believe it wasn't a slip up.

I said that Zinto and Mckerney had to be in the trail or woods and that everyone else had to be in the cabin or beyond. So it made sense to go to the cabin. I am sorry that you remember this incorrectly, or cannot understand how I concluded it, but it is obvious from the info I have posted.

[Autumn]

I'm hoping to gain a better understanding of the objects and their effects today before tonight's vote.

So far, I think we have a gun and knife (not necessarily in the Main Room with us, but "in play"), as well as at least two parchments. What am I missing?

I have never found a parchment htat was an item that could be picked up. The force that moved me from the Road to the Woods included a parchment in CF's writeup. It's one fo the things I saw, just as at lynches we've seen weird things in the air.

I also have an item, a weapon, a shovel that I found on the Road. It seems to increase your effectiveness in a vote would be my guess from the messages I've gotten from CF.

[Autumn]

Bug sees a picture that he knows nothing about and you back him up and claim to see the picture too.......Trying awfully hard to attach yourself to people here.

I did not claim to see a picture. I said that we all saw an image of a face at lynch time. I get a message around lynch time every day that says something about me hitting at that image with my weapon, and it also says that I held on to my weapon. Therefore Bug's comment sounded valid, it sounded like he was striking at an image and lost his weapon.

Dubb, why don't you tell us about your item, what you've done with it, and how it's helped the village?

[Autumn]

I just find it hard to believe that I see a parchment and you see one. That bug has a weapon so then you have one and then bug loses his and you say you could have lost yours. If I claim to live in medieval times will you claim to be a knight of the round table? Where does this end?

So you find it hard to believe that there are more than one weapon in the game and that the rules apply the same to them? You find it hard to believe that you found an item, a magic parchment, in a game with magic spells, and that someone else might have seen one? I think if I say that I see swirling faces at lynchtime you're going to find that suspicious, or that I heard strange things from another room.

Your theory is that I am a wolf, and that instead of being quiet like Bug, or picking people apart like you, I have decided to claim I have an item (which you I guess don't think I do), claim to have seen an item in a writeup, all because of what? I want to draw attention to myself? I want to make up a series of lies that have gained me nothing? Your theory makes zero sense, Dubb. Why would I even say those things if they weren't true?

[Autumn]

I would also say that there was a fairly strong opinion on Day 1 & 2 (at least in the Study) that we should all try to congregate together to gather information and stay stronger in numbers. But it doesn't seem like we've actually accomplished that yet. I posted it before, but I do want to look at those who continue to try to keep the group moving (and thus less likely to all be together in the same room). I know we have to balance investigations, and so I am interested in what the rest of you think. It just seems to me that Team Evil has the advantage if groups of 2-3 go their separate ways. Details can be lost or blatantly lied about if there aren't more witnesses to the actual crime.

As Dubb has pointed out, I have suggested the last couple days that we move towards the cabin, after making sure all areas have been investigated once. I suggested we move from the Woods to the Yard, since we had already seen the Trail, and again that we move from the Yard to the Cabin since i wanted us to meet up with everyone else and be able to check the vote history here. Mr. Bug stayed behind, which frankly I don't remember if he just forgot to put in an order, I don't remember him suggesting that anyone stay.

We should be able to look at the room movement chart and see who else has split up. I thought it was strange that Zinto and Mckerney stayed away from the cabin, Mckerney heading in the opposite direction, and Zinto still not making it here. Darth missed a day and so stayed behind, that's why we voted him the other day.

[Autumn]

Was role fishing in the most blatant form and still is. There is no way for anyone to argue this short or role revealing. For some reason you seem to want this it would appear.

This was not role fishing, no. You saying it is in stronger languages doesn't make it so. These sort of comments are what is getting under my skin. You do not possess some sort of authority to tell everyone in this game what is, or isn't so. It is your opinion, and in this case one that's way off track. Telling everyone in the game they're not able to argue otherwise is offensive to me.

[Autumn]

Thing is with a scenario where NTN is being pushed as a candidate to save DV is that unless the baddies are allowed access to all threads (not inconceivable) one of the baddies must have been in the Yard and voted DV, which seems a bit of a stretch but also not inconceivable.

I think I agree with Danny - we ought to hang here for at least one more turn to let Bhlloy and anyone out in the yard catch up with us. The other option would be to go to the Yard to, hopefully, meet the people from the Woods, who are probably on the trail now and will be in the yard tomorrow.

I saw you quoting this, above. I will point out that according to my notes, day two everyone in the Yard voted darth (Commo, dzilla, mauboy). I'm not sure if this is the day being referenced, but that's information you guys didn't have probably.

[The Jackal]

Honestly, I've been in the same room as Autumn for the entire game except for a few hours when he was in the road by himself and I have not been struck with the same level of certainty that dubb has been. Yes there were some things that didn't add up (such as seeing the parchment but not picking it up) and the way in which he was encouraging us not to vote for NTN, but I'm not willing to go much beyond saying it pinged me.

I feel like Autumn did a fair job of replying to what dubb has asked of him, and the chart he has been keeping, to my knowledge, does show that it was most likely everyone had been to the cabin.

Be that as it may, I'm not going to tell dubb to back off, he doesn't like the way Autumn has been playing and doesn't like the answers he's been giving and now there's enough back and forth in this thread for all of you to look at it in fairly the same way I have been.

I'm going to read what all's been posted today to see if there's any information I can offer that helps, but I think they've pretty much covered everything.

[Autumn]

Also I've seen a couple times in this thread that investigating another room takes 3 days. But in fact moving to a room counts as investigation. You shouldn't need to stay to investigate another day. I've asked CF this, and he said we don't know if staying longer will help find more, but a one day investigation should be enough to at least find items and find out if there are any other exits. At this point every area has been investigated at least once.

[The Jackal]

Was role fishing in the most blatant form and still is. There is no way for anyone to argue this short or role revealing. For some reason you seem to want this it would appear.

This point can't really be argued to a certain end. It was possibly role fishing, it was possible just a villager speculating on the nature of roles in the game. We know which way dubb saw it.

[The Jackal]

You don't want to argue, fine. I will leave it at that. BTW Jackal said he knows exactly what I am talking about when I called you out in the yard. IDK for a fact, but I don't think he's going to come in and label my fears as baseless.

Dubb can you clarify what part this was at? I remember agreeing with you that Autumn not picking up the parchment was questionable, but I'm not sure if you meant at a different point.

And Autumn, forgive me if you are repeating yourself, but as to the parchment you said finding it in a way acted as a transportation to our thread but you never actually picked it up? Did you recite it?

[Autumn]

Yes there were some things that didn't add up (such as seeing the parchment but not picking it up) and the way in which he was encouraging us not to vote for NTN, but I'm not willing to go much beyond saying it pinged me.

This will be the last time I harp on this, but since it keeps getting harped back to me, I feel like I have to answer this one last time. I know Jackal's read it in many threads, but people new in this thread keep hearing this chestnut.

I DID NOT FIND A PARCHMENT ON THE ROAD. In the middle of the day some event occurred which moved me from the Road to the Woods. I think a similar thing happened later to anyone who might have been on the trail, and then we saw Danny swept away last night.

When it happened to me there was a long description. I had been attempting to drive CF crazy by racking up like 50 posts in the thread when I was there alone. So I think he in turn decided to write a long entertaining text for me. There was a wind, and a fog, I saw a face in the clouds. I heard chanting in some strange language, I saw a vision (A VISION, NOT AN ACTUAL ITEM, JUST LIKE I DID NOT FIND A REAL FACE IN THE CLOUDS) of a parchment with strange writing, and probably other things. A wind picked me up and took me over the bridge and through the woods and smashed me into the tree. I made several George of the Jungle jokes and we had a good time with it.

When Dubb said he had a parchment, I said I could believe that since I had seen a description of a parchment, and it sounded like Dubb's. I felt his reveal was legit, and said so, since I thought that was useful information for other players to know.

I NEVER FOUND A PARCHMENT WHICH COULD BE PICKED UP.

[The Jackal]

Dubb also believed at one point that Autumn was trying to herd us towards the cabin. I never really got that feeling only because it was always my intention to go towards the cabin no matter what other people were doing, because well that's where the fun is!

[The Jackal]

Thank you, Autumn. I know this must be frustrating, it's tough to have someone with their sights set directly on you. I'm fairly calmed on the whole parchment issue.

[Autumn]

Whcih reminds me, has no one here investigated NTN's corpse? I think in the rules it said thdat you could. Actually I guess probably Danny did, since he ended up with Bug's knife that had been used on NTN.

In case there's more to see I will investigate here tonight. Hopefully people will come back and congregate here, though it would be useful at some point to read what has been said in the other threads.

<B>INVESTIGATE CABIN</b>

[The Jackal]

I was really only starting to get confused by Autumn because of how he was suggesting not voting for NTN, because from the description CF had given us and dubb's relaying of what deadites look like in the movies, it really did sound like NTN was a bad guy. It looks like he isn't though?

[The Jackal]

INVESTIGATE CABIN

[The Jackal]

I was really only starting to get confused by Autumn because of how he was suggesting not voting for NTN, because from the description CF had given us and dubb's relaying of what deadites look like in the movies, it really did sound like NTN was a bad guy. It looks like he isn't though?

I'll clarify this, Autumn wasn't suggesting NTN was good, persay, but that he felt CF's writeup was just flavor and that NTN might already be out of the game and we just didn't know it. He backtracked on that later though.

[The Jackal]

Honestly at this point I'm more willing to go with other people's reads on CR than follow dubb on to Autumn. I'm not really close to making a decision on whether or not I think Autumn has been lying to us or playing us. Sorry if you were expecting me to follow you fully dubb, but I need to think about it some more.

[Autumn]

And Autumn, forgive me if you are repeating yourself, but as to the parchment you said finding it in a way acted as a transportation to our thread but you never actually picked it up? Did you recite it?

To be clear, the only thing that seemed to cause me to move, if anything under my control, was putting in my investigation order. Some time after that I was moved by CF. My guess was that that area was just going to close that day, and he decided to do it mid day. Even though I saw a parchment I felt like that was probably just flavor, it didn't seem like anything to do with a spell, especially since it seemed the Trail got closed up the next day. It will be interesting to see if there was anyone on the trail when that happened.

I think we should probably not vote Zinto or Mckerney today, just because they could make it here and tell us what has happened in their threads. If they get lynched we'll have to leave to read their threads, or to see their corpses. Now that I think of it that way, lynching Darth probably wasn't a great idea for the same reason.

While on the subject of corpses, what are people's opinions about NTN's corpse. Do you think CF's description suggests he is good (just a regular corpse)? Or does it mean we won't be able to tell the difference between wolf corpses and villagers??

[Autumn]

I'll clarify this, Autumn wasn't suggesting NTN was good, persay, but that he felt CF's writeup was just flavor and that NTN might already be out of the game and we just didn't know it. He backtracked on that later though.

Yes, I went back and read the rules and realized there should be a corpse in the area if we had killed him. I still don't quite understand what happened though. NTN apparently had a special ability to allow him to escape the lynch? Is that what other people are assuming?

[The Jackal]

Or is it that there was a tie because NTN and no lynch both had 3 votes?

[Autumn]

Or is it that there was a tie because NTN and no lynch both had 3 votes?

But why did he get to leave the area? I agree, it should have been a no lynch. But he fled at lynch time, that must be a special ability right? I thought maybe he activated it thinking he would be lynched. I suppose he might have done that even if he was a villager. But when he arrived here, he claimed he didn't have any votes again him, I think.

It jsut seems strange that the corpse would not reveal his allegiance, but that when he ran from our area he was revealed as strange looking. If that was supposed to tell us he was a Deadite, wouldn't his corpse do the same?

[tyketime]

Also I've seen a couple times in this thread that investigating another room takes 3 days. But in fact moving to a room counts as investigation. You shouldn't need to stay to investigate another day. I've asked CF this, and he said we don't know if staying longer will help find more, but a one day investigation should be enough to at least find items and find out if there are any other exits. At this point every area has been investigated at least once.
I know I have been guilty of this assumption, Autumn. So I just restarted thread from beginning again, and here it is clearly spelled out:

Investigation:
Investigation acts like both moving and searching. It works like voting. You will be given options as to where you can investigate.
Format:
INVESTIGATE CLOSET
This will take you into the "closet" thread. You will also be told privately whether you find anything in the closet. Only one person will get the object if multiple people look there.


You are absolutely right. Sorry that I misunderstood this point...

[Commo_Soldier]

Just my thoughts before I head off to work. I agree that we should stay in a larger group, but I believe we have explored all we can in the main room of the cabin and think we should move to the yard next to meet with Danny and who ever else isn't here. That said we are going to have to do a lot of note taking if we ever do decide to leave this room so we don't lose everything that has happened here.

Finally the only person, to my knowledge, left in the cabin and not main room is Chief, if we decide to lynch him, I think we should all move to the yard. Only problem is we need it to be a runaway because if it is close than there will be some room for people to stay in the cabin because they thought someone else would be lynched.

[Autumn]

Just my thoughts before I head off to work. I agree that we should stay in a larger group, but I believe we have explored all we can in the main room of the cabin and think we should move to the yard next to meet with Danny and who ever else isn't here. That said we are going to have to do a lot of note taking if we ever do decide to leave this room so we don't lose everything that has happened here.

Finally the only person, to my knowledge, left in the cabin and not main room is Chief, if we decide to lynch him, I think we should all move to the yard. Only problem is we need it to be a runaway because if it is close than there will be some room for people to stay in the cabin because they thought someone else would be lynched.

The benefit I say to staying in this room is that it is central. People who come out of the cellar or study will come here. People who come out of the yard will come here. WE saw the Road and Trail thread disappear while we were out there, and I would bet the Woods thread will disappear before long. So I think it's easier for people to gather here than anywhere else.

Some of us have been in all those threads out there, so we can give you guys info if you have questions. I've tried to track it all in my notes I've posted, in terms of people and votes and items.

[Autumn]

Just my thoughts before I head off to work. I agree that we should stay in a larger group, but I believe we have explored all we can in the main room of the cabin and think we should move to the yard next to meet with Danny and who ever else isn't here. That said we are going to have to do a lot of note taking if we ever do decide to leave this room so we don't lose everything that has happened here.

Finally the only person, to my knowledge, left in the cabin and not main room is Chief, if we decide to lynch him, I think we should all move to the yard. Only problem is we need it to be a runaway because if it is close than there will be some room for people to stay in the cabin because they thought someone else would be lynched.

Also, I think Mauboy is with Chief in the cellar, and Bhlloy is in the Study.

[J23]

INVESTIGATES:
Cabin - dzilla77, tyketime, Narcizo, Commo_Soldier, j23
Cellar - Chief Rum, mauboy


Chief and mauboy both went to the cellar, so there are at least 2 not outside that aren't in this room. I'd have to go back and double check the thread to see if anyone is still in the study.

Investigate Study

I've yet to go to the study and would like to go see the discussion that took place there. It would be useful to go to one place so we can all discuss the current goings on, but after the whole Autumn/Dubb/Jackal debate has shown, the stories we get after the fact can be interpreted quite differently than what is spelled out in the thread.

[Autumn]

Day One

*Road - Autumn, The Jackal, Zinto, NTNdeacon, MrBug708
3 votes for NTN (jackal, mrbug, ?), 1 for mrbug (me) 1 for ?

*Trail - Darth Vilus, Dubb, Mauboy, Commo, Dzilla
3 votes for no lynch

*Yard - bhlloy, mckerney, J23
1-1-1 vote

Study - tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (finds spell here?), Narcizo
3 votes for Danny


Day Two

*Road - Autumn (later gone to Woods)

*Trail - Zinto, Mckerney

*Woods - The Jackal, MrBug (finds knife), Dubb (finds paper), Darth Vilus, (later Autumn)
4 votes for NTN (darth no show)

*Yard - Commo, Dzilla, Mauboy
3 votes for Darth

*Cabin - Bhlloy, J23, Danny, NTNdeacon (dies)

Study - Tyketime, Chief Rum, Narcizo


Day Three

Trail or Woods - Zinto, Mckerney

Woods - Darth Vilus (likely lynched)

*Yard - Jackal, Autumn, Dubb, MrBug708 (loses knife)
3 votes DV (no vote bug)

*Cabin - Commo, Mauboy, Dzilla, Narcizo (dies night 3), Tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (has knife, has spell), J23

Study - Bhlloy


Day Four

Cellar - Chief Rum, Mauboy

*Cabin - Commo, Dzilla, Tyketime, Danny (later left), J23, Jackal, Autumn, Dubb

Yard - MrBug 708

Study - Bhlloy

Woods or Yard - (Zinto, Mckerney, Darth) (Danny in Woods?)



*Complete, confirmed roster

Trail leads to Woods or Yard (or Road??)
Trail was investigated by Zinto, Mckerney

Road leads to Trail or Woods
*Road was investigated by Autumn+

Woods leads to Trail, Road or Yard
*Woods was investigated by Dubb+, Darth, Jackal, Mr.Bug+

Yard leads to Trail, Woods, Cabin
*Yard was investigated by Common, Dzilla, Mauboy

Cabin leads to Yard, Study, Cellar
*Cabin was investigated by Bhlloy, J23

Cellar leads to ?
*Cellar was investigated by Chief Rum, Mauboy

[J23]

The benefit I say to staying in this room is that it is central. People who come out of the cellar or study will come here. People who come out of the yard will come here. WE saw the Road and Trail thread disappear while we were out there, and I would bet the Woods thread will disappear before long. So I think it's easier for people to gather here than anywhere else.

Some of us have been in all those threads out there, so we can give you guys info if you have questions. I've tried to track it all in my notes I've posted, in terms of people and votes and items.

What do you mean by the thread disappeared? They're clearly still there. Was the option to go there removed at some point that you know of?

[Autumn]

What do you mean by the thread disappeared? They're clearly still there. Was the option to go there removed at some point that you know of?

Yes, if you look in the forum, the Road thread andt he Trail thread are marked "closed". When we wre in the Woods we were told we could no longer go to the Road, and then when we were in the Yard we were told the Trail had closed in.

[J23]

Well that sucks. I was really hoping to be able to see some of the conversations that took place in the thread rather than people's summaries after the fact. Even if people are trying to be unbiased, it's pretty hard to take your impression out of it.

[J23]

Do we think more items will appear throughout the game in the different areas (those that remain open)? I just wonder if it is worth investigating the same area more than once as the game progresses.

[Autumn]

Well that sucks. I was really hoping to be able to see some of the conversations that took place in the thread rather than people's summaries after the fact. Even if people are trying to be unbiased, it's pretty hard to take your impression out of it.

Yeah I would say that is the most unexpected twist I'm finding in this game. It's really hard to have conversations and not have people be able to see the discussions, or even go back and confirm what was said yourself. It creates quite a dynamic because I too would love to go and see what has been said in other threads, ones I haven't been to and ones that I've since left, but we'll be running around in circles if we keep all doing that.

This will be me railroading everyone again, I guess, but I still will suggest that at least for one day we all stay here. It's the central location and I think everyone should end up here within a day unless people stop moving. Zinto and Mckerney should be in the Yard, unless they didn't move yesterday, which would be odd. I would assume bhlloy, chief and mauboy are all going to move here today.

If there is a reveal on lynch (which I'm unsure of) it really pays to have us all in the same room. Hopefully Zinto or Mckerney or Danny can make it back here and tell us what they saw (presuming Darth got lynched in the Woods).

[Autumn]

Do we think more items will appear throughout the game in the different areas (those that remain open)? I just wonder if it is worth investigating the same area more than once as the game progresses.

I'm not sure. Danny found a knife here after the initial investigation, but that was pretty clearly related to the corpse. Let's keep track of items now

Shovel - found on Road, first investigation
Knife - found in Woods, first investigation; later found in corpse in Cabin, how?
Parchment - founds in Woods, first investigation
Spell - found in Study, day one, how?

I wanted to ask Danny about his spell. I don't understand how he could have found it in the study, since he started there, and never investigated there. That seems to not follow the rules or other people's experiences. I'm also not sure how Danny got hold of the kinfe, if he actually did something or if it was just random.

[J23]

I think shooting to all be here in 2 days would be easy enough. With the woods thread being open, I'd assume that someone is still out there (maybe this is wrong?) so that would mean they could go to the yard tomorrow and then into the cabin the next day. Today, someone could go to the yard and leave a message for people to know to come to the cabin the following day.

[Autumn]

I guess I would add that most areas have been investigated multiple times, for example this area has been entered/investigated almost every day. So far we don't have anyone saying that they've found an item on a second investigation.

[J23]

If there is a reveal on lynch (which I'm unsure of) it really pays to have us all in the same room. Hopefully Zinto or Mckerney or Danny can make it back here and tell us what they saw (presuming Darth got lynched in the Woods).

When ntn's corpse showed up here it didn't seem to have any particular reveal.

[Autumn]

I think shooting to all be here in 2 days would be easy enough. With the woods thread being open, I'd assume that someone is still out there (maybe this is wrong?) so that would mean they could go to the yard tomorrow and then into the cabin the next day. Today, someone could go to the yard and leave a message for people to know to come to the cabin the following day.

Sure, tha'ts not a bad idea, leaving a message. It seemed like Danny was sent to the Woods by whatever moved him. So he's the furthest out at the moment. It will be interesting to see if the Woods are closed during the day. Road closed D2, Trail D3.

[Autumn]

When ntn's corpse showed up here it didn't seem to have any particular reveal.

Well, I'll have to look back but i Think it said something like "it looks like a regular corpse." Which seems like a no reveal, I agree, except that when NTN fled from the Road, he was described as having yellow teeth and crazy hair or something. If that was meant to imply him being a Deadite, (which I guess according to the movies it does), it's odd that wasn't mentioned about his corpse.

[tyketime]

I guess I would add that most areas have been investigated multiple times, for example this area has been entered/investigated almost every day. So far we don't have anyone saying that they've found an item on a second investigation.
I know I haven't. But in rereading the rules, CF does make mention that "items may end up back in a room". My guess is that all items were already in their starting locations. Do we have any confirmed usage of an item. I wonder if once an item is used, it returns back to the original location?

[Autumn]

I know I haven't. But in rereading the rules, CF does make mention that "items may end up back in a room". My guess is that all items were already in their starting locations. Do we have any confirmed usage of an item. I wonder if once an item is used, it returns back to the original location?

I'm not sure how spells work, but weapons can be used multiple times, but there is a chance of losing them. Bug lost the knife during the lynch, and Danny recovered it. I'm not sure if any spells have been used. I thought Dubb said he used his spell a couple of nights ago, but I haven't heard more about it.

[hoopsguy]

DO NOT NETER unless told!

[Autumn]

I'd like to say I have not netered at all, unless specifically asked to by CF.

[J23]

I'm not sure how spells work, but weapons can be used multiple times, but there is a chance of losing them. Bug lost the knife during the lynch, and Danny recovered it. I'm not sure if any spells have been used. I thought Dubb said he used his spell a couple of nights ago, but I haven't heard more about it.

I guess I missed the fact that Bug lost a knife during the lynch. I guess that makes whether or not Ntn was a good/bad guy potentially more important and what impact the knife might have had on his death.

[dubb93]

I'm not sure if any spells have been used. I thought Dubb said he used his spell a couple of nights ago, but I haven't heard more about it.

I no longer have my spell.

[Autumn]

I guess I missed the fact that Bug lost a knife during the lynch. I guess that makes whether or not Ntn was a good/bad guy potentially more important and what impact the knife might have had on his death.

For full disclosure, mine was the shovel that was indicated in the writeup too. I think the weapons must impact votes as CF has described something to that effect to me each lynch I've had my weapon. I presume they increase your vote, but there's a chance you lose it each time you use it.

[dubb93]

Don't we think someone has to go to the study and check on Bhlloy? I mean, what is he doing in there. Is he dead? I think we need to check on him. I'm willing to go, but I'm not going alone.

[Autumn]

Don't we think someone has to go to the study and check on Bhlloy? I mean, what is he doing in there. Is he dead? I think we need to check on him. I'm willing to go, but I'm not going alone.

Perhaps he thought, like tyke, that he needed to stay there to investigate it? Or he simply missed a day, like Darth did. Those are the only two non-nefarious reasons I can think of.

I'd suggest we wait a day, and hopefully gather most people here, before we split up again, but obviously I'm not going to suggest that very hard to you, Dubb ;-)

[dubb93]

Perhaps he thought, like tyke, that he needed to stay there to investigate it? Or he simply missed a day, like Darth did. Those are the only two non-nefarious reasons I can think of.

I'd suggest we wait a day, and hopefully gather most people here, before we split up again, but obviously I'm not going to suggest that very hard to you, Dubb ;-)

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!! :D

[dubb93]

In all seriousness I'm going somewhere. I'm not just going to stay here. I feel like moving on is the best way to keep gathering information rather than constantly needing people to relay it to me second hand.

[dubb93]

If no one else chooses cellar or study then I will go to the yard.

[dubb93]

There was a gunshot though Autumn. Most likely came from the study. No one knows though. If Bholly survived it we will have to take his word for what it was.

[Autumn]

There was a gunshot though Autumn. Most likely came from the study. No one knows though. If Bholly survived it we will have to take his word for what it was.

That's a good point, I forgot about the gunshot. And only one person in there. That's weird.

I guess if bhlloy does come here, and someone's already going there to double check, we'll be sure to get the truth one way or another.

I wonder if there's some danger in being alone in an area. I just got moved when I was. But it would be interesting to see what has happened to bhlloy, darth, zinto, mckerney and danny, if any of them were alone and what happened.

I was about to say maybe that's when the wolves can get you, but Narc died right here, didn't he. I should go back and read that, it's been kind of overlooked, but I wonder if there were any clues there.

[Autumn]

Nothing really there in Narc's death.

The gunshot happened at 9:44, so before night deadline, which is interesting. It does say "next room" so I think that implies the study, definitely not the cellar. The gunfire happened after lynch, but before dawn. Maybe bhlloy has a weapon and that was the sound of him using it in the lynch vote?

[The Jackal]

UNINVESTIGATE CABIN
INVESTIGATE STUDY

I keep saying I want to go forwards, I actually forgot I was already inside the cabin and that would just be investigating the room we're in.

[The Jackal]

Are we agreeing to try and meet back here after tomorrow? I'll be tempted to go in the cellar but I guess it depends on who/what I see in the study.

[tyketime]

Whcih reminds me, has no one here investigated NTN's corpse? I think in the rules it said thdat you could. Actually I guess probably Danny did, since he ended up with Bug's knife that had been used on NTN.
INVESTIGATE CABIN
I thought we buried ntn's corpse in the Yard (Post #222).

[tyketime]

UNINVESTIGATE CABIN
INVESTIGATE STUDY

I keep saying I want to go forwards, I actually forgot I was already inside the cabin and that would just be investigating the room we're in.
Well I started in the Study, so I have lots of background for that room. But I think I want to wait one more day before moving. I'm expecting the Cellar dwellers to reappear (unless there is another way out of the house from the Cellar). If bhlloy doesn't reappear, I'm going to assume he's dead. I don't think I want to spend two days to confirm that. Of course, with a gunshot sound, presumably there's a gun in there. So if you stay the course and investigate the Study, I expect you'll have a gun to bring back and help us against the baddies.

[tyketime]

I wanted to ask Danny about his spell. I don't understand how he could have found it in the study, since he started there, and never investigated there. That seems to not follow the rules or other people's experiences. I'm also not sure how Danny got hold of the kinfe, if he actually did something or if it was just random.
This has pinged me as well. I'm not so sure I believe he was able to grab a spell as we simultaneously voted him out. I suppose it's possible of Investigations happen before lynchings, but that would seem highly unlikely (a player gets the item, and then gets lynched). On second thought, that sequence would not make sense to me.

[Autumn]

I thought we buried ntn's corpse in the Yard (Post #222).

Yes, I guess what I mean to say is did anyone investigate his corpse before that? I'm wondering A) if that could have told us something about his allegiance, and B) if that is how Danny got the knife, or if NTN might have had an item.

[dubb93]

Investigate Study

[Autumn]

This has pinged me as well. I'm not so sure I believe he was able to grab a spell as we simultaneously voted him out. I suppose it's possible of Investigations happen before lynchings, but that would seem highly unlikely (a player gets the item, and then gets lynched). On second thought, that sequence would not make sense to me.

My understanding is that no one should have found an item on day one. No areas were investigated until people moved at deadline. Danny said he found the spell in the study, but he moved to the main cabin area day 2, so if he found something it would have been here.

[tyketime]

INVESTIGATE CABIN

UNINVESTIGATE CABIN
INVESTIGATE STUDY

I keep saying I want to go forwards, I actually forgot I was already inside the cabin and that would just be investigating the room we're in.
I don't think you've mentioned anything in this thread about wanting to move forwards. As best I can interpret from the Autum/dubb postings, it was Autumn "leading" the effort to move on. Can anyone else in your group confirm you were also interested in moving on from room to room? Just trying to understand your shift in destinations - especially to a place no one else has mentioned (and with plenty of postings from Danny/Chief/myself) on what went on in that room the first few days.

[dubb93]

I don't think you've mentioned anything in this thread about wanting to move forwards. As best I can interpret from the Autum/dubb postings, it was Autumn "leading" the effort to move on. Can anyone else in your group confirm you were also interested in moving on from room to room? Just trying to understand your shift in destinations - especially to a place no one else has mentioned (and with plenty of postings from Danny/Chief/myself) on what went on in that room the first few days.

Quite frankly I find it odd you don't want anyone to go into that room. With Danny now flying out for some reason, Chief drawing most of the votes today, you advocating in prior days for random votes on people you hadn't contacted(all three of you started in that room afterall), and a mystery gunshot taking place I find it very odd you wouldn't want that room investigated by an outside source.

[Autumn]

I don't think you've mentioned anything in this thread about wanting to move forwards. As best I can interpret from the Autum/dubb postings, it was Autumn "leading" the effort to move on. Can anyone else in your group confirm you were also interested in moving on from room to room? Just trying to understand your shift in destinations - especially to a place no one else has mentioned (and with plenty of postings from Danny/Chief/myself) on what went on in that room the first few days.

In previous areas (woods, yard), it seemed Jackal was intent on moving forward towards the cabin. I don't remember him flirting with staying back or going a different way. I couldn't really say whether he was interested in heading beyond the main cabin room though, we never talkd about that that I recall.

[J23]

I think Jackal explained earlier in this thread that he went along w/ Autumn's "push" to move to the cabin because he was planning on heading here anyway.

[tyketime]

Quite frankly I find it odd you don't want anyone to go into that room. With Danny now flying out for some reason, Chief drawing most of the votes today, you advocating in prior days for random votes on people you hadn't contacted(all three of you started in that room afterall), and a mystery gunshot taking place I find it very odd you wouldn't want that room investigated by an outside source.

Hmmm... I didn't say I didn't want him to, just asking the motivation. I am suspicious of anyone looking to split the group up.

[dubb93]

Hmmm... I didn't say I didn't want him to, just asking the motivation. I am suspicious of anyone looking to split the group up.

Well then add Jackal and I to the suspect list.

I want more information and I want to acquire that information first hand. I would rather not have to take info 2nd had and then try and determine if they are telling the truth or are acting wolfish.

[J23]

I'm pretty sure I'm already investigating the study too, so add me on the list too!

[CrimsonFox]

Minor detail correction for this thread. The list of players above has a sentence changed to "may be updated during the game, but not necessarily with info from other threads." It previously said "Will not be updated" but this was changed prior to the game starting in all the other threads. I missed this thread accidentally. It has now been fixed.

[Autumn]

Victims
Victim #1: Darth Vilus
Victim #2: Autumn
Victim #3: Chief Rum
Victim #4: Danny
Victim #5: Zinto
Victim #6: J23
Victim #7: Narcizo - Dead - Human
Victim #8: bhlloy
Victim #9: MrBug
Victim #10: ntndeacon - Dead...Human
Victim #11: dzilla77
Victim #12: mckerney
Victim #13: dubb
Victim #14: The Jackal
Victim #15: mauboy
Victim #16: Commo_Soldier
Victim #17: tyketime

This list will not be updated during the game. You are free to make your own assumptions and discoveries and post your own lists as you wish.

I had noticed this change in the list, and asked CF about it. And so this suggests that both of these guys were villagers.

[J23]

Of those with votes, I'm hesitant about voting Chief or Autumn. Chief because he's one of only two people currently in the cellar and Autumn because he has been pretty helpful so far and has been pretty convincing to me w/ the answers he's given to dubb's questions/accusations (and I feel like Jackal has backed him up at least somewhat).

I don't have a great feel for a different lynch target, but I'm leaning towards Mckerney or Darth.

Darth because he is still alive after seeming to get most of the votes yesterday. 3 votes from the yard group, 2 from the cabin group. Either someone else got 5 votes or something else was in play here.

Mckerney because he seems to have moved away from other people rather than trying to join together. This might just be exploring, but still just doesn't sit right to me.

[Autumn]

I guess that's obvious with Narc, but I'm so excited to see some info, I just don't care!

[Autumn]

Of those with votes, I'm hesitant about voting Chief or Autumn. Chief because he's one of only two people currently in the cellar and Autumn because he has been pretty helpful so far and has been pretty convincing to me w/ the answers he's given to dubb's questions/accusations (and I feel like Jackal has backed him up at least somewhat).

I don't have a great feel for a different lynch target, but I'm leaning towards Mckerney or Darth.

Darth because he is still alive after seeming to get most of the votes yesterday. 3 votes from the yard group, 2 from the cabin group. Either someone else got 5 votes or something else was in play here.

Mckerney because he seems to have moved away from other people rather than trying to join together. This might just be exploring, but still just doesn't sit right to me.

Why do you think Darth is still alive?

I'm worried about voting people that far astray because we might not ever see their corpse and find their allegiance.

[J23]

Well... that might explain why I thought DV was still alive.

It also looks like Narc and ntn are both listed as human, which I'm assuming is good? That wasn't there last time I looked I don't think.

[J23]

I didn't realize Crimson had stopped updating the listing in the thread.

[Autumn]

I didn't realize Crimson had stopped updating the listing in the thread.

Yeah I hadn't bothered going back and looking earlier, but I just did now and noticed the human listing.

Now we need some theories about why and how NTN fled the room.

And it seems the description we saw about him was not meant to display his evilness. I originally thought it was just CF being silly, and maybe it just happened to sound too similar to the Deadites? Or maybe they're just going to look human.

I haven't watched these movies - are there other sorts of creatures we should expect to see? Maybe there are human bad guys, but also other types of bad guys?

[The Jackal]

To answer what someone said last page, yes I've always been intent on heading towards the cabin. I definitely want to keep us all near each other but my main motivation for heading onwards was just to keep with the fun spirit of the game, and that's really it. That's what I've said the whole time.

[CrimsonFox]

The rocking chair in the corner starts to rock on its own. It then turns and aims itself towards the group, rocking with a horrible creaking sound. You go up to it as it rocks and try to stop it. As you reach your hand out, it stops before you touch it.

[dubb93]

Well if memory serves me the people turned into Deadites due to the book of the dead being read aloud. I even seem to remember Ash(the main character) turning into a Deadite at one point, but that didn't last very long at all.

The movies were all over the place, but I don't seem to remember there being human bad guys, just humans who turned into Deadites, although turning into a Deadite in the movie didn't mean you wouldn't turn back in a human. The movie wasn't clear on how they turned back, they just did.

For werewolf purposes I can't imagine someone turning into a Deadite and then turning back into a human. That just sounds crazy.

[tyketime]

I've never seen the movies, so I hope there are no crazy mechanics like that.

[tyketime]

Now we need some theories about why and how NTN fled the room.
Somehow I thought spells were in play. That's my guess for you moving mid-day as well. Unless it is a power of Evil...

[Autumn]

It couldn't have been a spell, I don't think, since it was Day One and nobody should have had an item yet.

I think he must have had a special ability. Or I guess one of the bad guys could have used a power on him. But why? Or maybe someone had some sort of duke ability?

Wait, now I forget. Did Danny get moved randomly Day One too?

[tyketime]

Why do you think Darth is still alive?

I'm worried about voting people that far astray because we might not ever see their corpse and find their allegiance.
I certainly understand your point there Autumn. And it sucks voting for players I haven't even bumped into yet. So which direction do we vote then?

[Autumn]

I have no idea who to vote. Frankly, nobody's struck a wolf chord to me yet. Of the guys I've seen most of - Jackal, Bug and Dubb, none of them have struck me as wolfish. If I had to pick one fo the three I'd pick Jackal, just because he's playing kind of the friendly middleman, I could see that as being a wolf thing.

But I'm not going to vote one of them. I'd like to vote someone in the room though, both so we see their corpse and so they can defend themselves.

Out of those, I'm not sure what I've heard, if anything, from Dzilla, so I'm throwing him out there just for that reason. I hope to be back before deadline, and I'll see what he says, and look back to see what he's said.

<b>VOTE DZILLA</b>

[tyketime]

Wait, now I forget. Did Danny get moved randomly Day One too?
No. We all decided to Investigate the Study and stayed in the room. As part of the lynch result, Danny disappeared (and showed up in Main cabin).

[Autumn]

No. We all decided to Investigate the Study and stayed in the room. As part of the lynch result, Danny disappeared (and showed up in Main cabin).

Oh that's what I mean. So he also got moved here because of the lynch. So it seems liek the same thing happened to him as happened to NTN, part of the tie, I guess.

So the only weird thing is the description of NTN. Was there any sort of description of Danny in the writeup? Maybe CF was just being funny and is now shaking his head at us.

[Autumn]

Okay, I checked, nothing from Dzilla since Saturday I think. I'd prefer a better reason to vote someone, but I've got to go put hte kids to bed.

[dzilla77]

I'm here, just been a busy day today (and there wasn't much posted Sunday that warranted a response).

[J23]

Vote Mckerney

Since DV is likely dead, I'm going to go with the other guy that had me a bit suspicious that I mentioned earlier.

[dzilla77]

For the record, because they were made on Saturday, Chief has two votes and Autumn has one.

[dzilla77]

It seems like there is a move to investigate the study. While I'd prefer to keep the group together, if we are not going to do that I might as well see another location and another thread.

Investigate Study

[tyketime]

Since the majority want to move to the Study, I'm inclined to join. I'd rather not stay in the Main Room by myself or with just one other. I've said it before, and I will repeat it. I think we are safer in numbers. My only reluctance is that I expect those in the Cellar to return to the Main Cabin tomorrow. With most of us moving into the Study, we won't be able to get their Intel until the following day.

INVESTIGATE STUDY

[Autumn]

I think only 3 out of 7 people were heading for the study, Tyke, so you would be just as safe staying here.

I don't think it makes sense to have everybody move there, when this location is much more central. So I guess I'll wait here anyway and see who moves this way.

[Autumn]

Vote right now is

mckerney 1
dzilla 1
chief 2
autumn 1

Hard to say who people in other threads are going to be voting for.

[tyketime]

I think only 3 out of 7 people were heading for the study, Tyke, so you would be just as safe staying here.

I don't think it makes sense to have everybody move there, when this location is much more central. So I guess I'll wait here anyway and see who moves this way.

My count shows 4 (Jackal, J23, dubb, dzilla) going to Study.

You're staying here.

I don't think Commo posted an investigation.

[tyketime]

If Commo stays in Main Room, then I'll stay as well. But if not, then I'll stay with crowd and head to Study.

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, Jackal, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal

[tyketime]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, Jackal, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal

CF: Jackal switched from Cabin to Study. dzilla also asked to investigate the study.

[tyketime]

As far as my vote - I think most people here have been helpful. I have a couple minor suspicions, but no glaring wolf signs. Truth is, I know so little from the other areas that it does make a vote more difficult.

But to Autumn's point, if we pick somebody out in the Trail/Woods, it could be a couple more days before we got confirmation, right?

So... I'm gonna vote with one of my original suspicions:

VOTE CHIEF RUM

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal

i knew that...

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, Jackal, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal

[tyketime]

I wish Commo would confirm staying in Study...

[tyketime]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, Jackal, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal
Striiike Two!

Jackal is only in the Study, as well as dzilla.

Commo has not committed yet

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal

I copied the wrong blob. :) is this right?

[Autumn]

It's a crazy split vote, and I'm not sure I want to switch to Chief, which might be our only shot at getting a lynch, when I don't think I've ever even been in the same thread as him. I'd rather at least get his side of things. Then again a no lynch isn't much use. Then again a lynch isn't much use if we can't see all the vote histories. Grr, why won't you guys all get in one room!

[CrimsonFox]

The clock on the wall ticks away noisily, then stops....and freezes in midair.

[Autumn]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal

I copied the wrong blob. :) is this right?


You're kidding, right?

[tyketime]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb
cabin - Autumn, Jackal

I copied the wrong blob. :) is this right?

Almost puppetmaster... Put Jackal with Study investigators leaving Autumn alone in Cabin (with undecided Commo).

[Autumn]

It would be crazy to lynch Chief and send no one to the cellar.

*sigh*

[Autumn]

<b>unvote dzilla
vote chief rum

uninvestigate cabin
investigate cellar</b>

[tyketime]

It would be crazy to lynch Chief and send no one to the cellar.

*sigh*
Well, wouldn't those still in the Cellar see the crime before they reappear in the Main Room (if they are headed back this way...)?

[Autumn]

Hopefully this gets us a lynch and I can go and find out what the result was, and what they were up to down there.

[Commo_Soldier]

Investigate Study

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385)
Autumn - dubb (269)
dzilla77 - Autumn (369)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb, Jackal
cabin - Autumn

oh now i get it.

[tyketime]

unvote dzilla
vote chief rum

uninvestigate cabin
investigate cellar
Autumn - you're setting yourself up for being alone... not always a good sign!

[Autumn]

Well, wouldn't those still in the Cellar see the crime before they reappear in the Main Room (if they are headed back this way...)?

Well, Chief would be dead if we lynch him. and so only Mauboy would. But if he doesn't think to look at the listing before he leaves, or if he and Chief were wolves, we might not find out.

[tyketime]

Switch back Autumn, and I will too

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385), Autumn (395)
Autumn - dubb (269)

mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb, Jackal, commo
cabin - Autumn

[Commo_Soldier]

Uninvestigate cabin
investigate study

[Commo_Soldier]

Damn

[Autumn]

Autumn - you're setting yourself up for being alone... not always a good sign!

I'm sure people will decide it's all kinds of suspect. But I don't think it makes sense to not send anyone. I've got a weapon, I feel fine going by myself, and for all we know Mauboy and/or Chief will be staying there.

[tyketime]

Switch back Autumn, and I will too
Sorry - in the quick refresh, I read Commo as staying in Main. No way would I stay in Main alone with one other player...

[Commo_Soldier]

Wait, nevermind, I investigated what I wanted.

[tyketime]

OMG - this was brutal. I couldn't refresh quick enough...

[Commo_Soldier]

Be back shortly, got held up at work for 75 more minutes than I wanted to.

[tyketime]

Wait, nevermind, I investigated what I wanted.
You're killing me Commo...

Wait... I was just joking - not being literal...

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Commo_Soldier (254), dzilla77 (258), tyketime (385), Autumn (395)
Autumn - dubb (269)
mckerney - J23 (374)

INVESTIGATES:
study - tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb, Jackal, commo
CELLAR - Autumn

DEADLINE

[Commo_Soldier]

Just incase I miss it reading through the past two pages, has someone posted what items were in this game at some point and who had the item last?

[Autumn]

Shovel (autumn) - found on Road, first investigation
Knife (MrBug - Danny) - found in Woods, first investigation; later found in corpse in Cabin, how?
Parchment (Dubb) - founds in Woods, first investigation
Spell (Danny) - found in Study, day one, how?

[Autumn]

I'll post this now for any new people about to come in.

Day One

*Road - Autumn, The Jackal, Zinto, NTNdeacon, MrBug708
3 votes for NTN (jackal, mrbug, ?), 1 for mrbug (me) 1 for ?

*Trail - Darth Vilus, Dubb, Mauboy, Commo, Dzilla
3 votes for no lynch

*Yard - bhlloy, mckerney, J23
1-1-1 vote

Study - tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (finds spell here?), Narcizo
3 votes for Danny


Day Two

*Road - Autumn (later gone to Woods)

*Trail - Zinto, Mckerney

*Woods - The Jackal, MrBug (finds knife), Dubb (finds paper), Darth Vilus, (later Autumn)
4 votes for NTN (darth no show)

*Yard - Commo, Dzilla, Mauboy
3 votes for Darth

*Cabin - Bhlloy, J23, Danny, NTNdeacon (dies)

Study - Tyketime, Chief Rum, Narcizo


Day Three

Trail or Woods - Zinto, Mckerney

Woods - Darth Vilus (likely lynched)

*Yard - Jackal, Autumn, Dubb, MrBug708 (loses knife)
3 votes DV (no vote bug)

*Cabin - Commo, Mauboy, Dzilla, Narcizo (dies night 3), Tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (has knife, has spell), J23
2 votes Darth, 2 votes Mauboy, 1 vote Chief

Study - Bhlloy


Day Four

Cellar - Chief Rum, Mauboy

*Cabin - Commo, Dzilla, Tyketime, Danny (later left), J23, Jackal, Autumn, Dubb
4 votes Chief, 1 vote Autumn, 1 vote mckerney

Yard - MrBug 708

Study - Bhlloy

Woods or Yard - (Zinto, Mckerney, Darth) (Danny in Woods?)


Day Five

Study - Commo, Dzilla, Dubb, Jackal, J23, Tyketime
Cellar - Autumn
Yard -
Cabin -

*Complete roster

Items

Shovel - found on Road by Autumn, first investigation
Knife - found in Woods by MrBug, first investigation; later found in corpse in Cabin by Danny, how?
Parchment - founds in Woods by Dubb, first investigation
Spell - found in Study by Danny, day one, how?

Areas

Trail leads to Woods or Yard (or Road??). Closed D3.
Trail was investigated by Zinto, Mckerney

Road leads to Trail or Woods. Closed D3.
*Road was investigated by Autumn

Woods leads to Trail, Road or Yard
*Woods was investigated by Dubb+, Darth, Jackal, Mr.Bug+

Yard leads to Trail, Woods, Cabin
*Yard was investigated by Common, Dzilla, Mauboy

Cabin leads to Yard, Study, Cellar
*Cabin was investigated by Bhlloy, J23

Cellar leads to ?
*Cellar was investigated by Chief Rum, Mauboy

[Autumn]

I guess I didn't really think through the timing of the lynch reveal, so maybe you were right Tyke about not needing to go to the cellar. It just seems chancy to hope that they pick up the information we want though, and depend on Mauboy to report it accurately.

[Commo_Soldier]

http://www.monstershack.net/reviews/full/gfx/evildead/inside.jpg

From behind a closed door, a man's voice speaks. It is a tinny voice. One of kindness and authority. It sounds as if it were a recording.

This is Professor Raymond Knowby dept of Ancient History, log entry number 2. I believe I have made a significant find at Castle Kantok, having journeyed there with my wife Henrietta, my daughter Annie and Associate Professor Ed Getz. Noturum Demonta, The Book of the Dead. My wife and I brought the book to this cabin where I could study it undisturbed. It was here that I began the translation. The book speaks of spiritual prescence, a thing of evil that roams the forests in the dark bowers of man’s domain. It is through the recitation of these passages that this dark spirit is given license to possess the living. Included here are the phonetic pronunciations of those passages:

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[/FONT][/COLOR][I][COLOR=darkred][FONT=&quot]
Kanda...Es-trata...Ta-toon...Hazan[/FONT][/COLOR][/B]

[I][COLOR=darkred][FONT=&quot]sobar...Ear-Grets, Gat,[/FONT][/COLOR][/I]

[I][COLOR=darkred][FONT=&quot]...Nos-feratos...Amantos...Kanda![/FONT][/COLOR][/I]

[B]Faces appear again, some of which you have seen before, some new to you. They play out in mid air like weird opening credits. At first you are all seen, then it zooms in on faces, flipping rapidly. None of your pictures are there. It keeps going back to one face many times. You step forward. ntndeacon shakes his head as he looks at it and steps forward. It keeps going by and he looks more frightened, his eyes wide. His picture is there. Suddenly he is jolted by a horrible feeling and screams in pain. Then the screaming stops. He turns back to you and has a knife stuck in his chest. As you look in shock, something metal slices through the movie, like the end of a shovel. It slices ntn's head clean off. It soars across the room rolling through the air past you and out a window. You hear it continue to roll. ntn's corpse stands there. Then falls over. His corpse looks like a normal corpse.
[/B]


[B]The smell from the corpse in the middle is kind of gross. You have decided to bury it outside. It is the right thing to do. You had to find the head in the yard. You plant a cross made of sticks at the head of it. THen you go back inside and close the door. [/B]

[B]From the other room you hear the tinny voice of an older scholarly gentleman. It sounds like a recording.[/B]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]Last night Henrietta tried to kill me.[/B][/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]I know now, that my wife has
become host to a kandarian demon.[/B][/COLOR]

[COLOR=DarkRed][B]
I cannot bring myself to dismember
my wife, yet I know that I must, to
halt the evil that lives within her.[/B][/COLOR]


[B]You look around not knowing what to do next. You try and calm yourself but that does no good. The blood on the floor all rolls back up the chimney and is gone as if it were never there. There are no noises like before. THen a faint rushing as you continue to listen to the track.[/B]


[I][COLOR=DarkRed]It is October 1, 4:33 p.m. Henrietta
is dead. I could not bring myself
to dismember her corpse. But I
buried her.[/COLOR][/I]

[I][B]
I . . . buried her . . . in the
cellar.[/B][/I]

[I][B] God help me, I buried her in the
earthen floor of the fruit cellar![/B][/I]

[B]The window breaks open completely and there is an rushing around the room. It zigs and zags with eerie suonds from scraping to cackling to horses neighing to dogs barking to a child laughing. It grabs one of you in its tracks. Danny is pushed through the air and is ridden out of the room through the window, bonking his head on the window ledge and saying ow. You watch as he is hurtled away into the woods.[/B]

Consolidating some what I believe are important posts for people to re-read.

[Autumn]

Wow so maybe we need to dig up the corpse and dismember it? I missed that the first time.

[Autumn]

For which we undoubtedly need the shovel and the knife. Perhaps we all need to congregate in the cabin, with those items. I don't know what the spells do but they may be necessary also.

[CrimsonFox]

The circle of faces appears again. You are agitated and horrified at being here. Someone swings something into the faces. There are screams and a shotgun blast. There are noises below you, screaming and a ruccous, then all is quiet.

[Autumn]

I may stay in the cellar if that seems the case once I get there. If Danny returns with the knife, come down too Danny. And those with spells, if you think you might need them.

[Commo_Soldier]

So, I'm lead to believe the following roles are probably in this game, question is do we see them as good or bad.

Professor Raymond Knowby
Henrietta
Annie
Associate Professor Ed Getz.

Also the following item, do we think this can be used for good or only bad?
Item: Noturum Demonta, The Book of the Dead

[CrimsonFox]

Tick...tick...tick...tick...tick....the clock ticks....night actions due by 7:30 PM PST/10:30 ESTItem passing and use due then too.

[Commo_Soldier]

Wow so maybe we need to dig up the corpse and dismember it? I missed that the first time.

One other possibility as she was the start of the undead and is no longer buried, so maybe just the shovel is needed. Then it becomes did she start in the cellar on Day one?

[Autumn]

One other possibility as she was the start of the undead and is no longer buried, so maybe just the shovel is needed. Then it becomes did she start in the cellar on Day one?

But it sounds like his mistake was not dismembering her. It sounds like that's the way to stop her completely. And it makes sense if all the items serve some purpose like that.

I'm operating on the idea that there is a corpse buried there that is allowing the evillness to happen. If there is an actual player who is that person, that's a different matter. We'd have to make sure we collect the corpse when we kill her, and have the right items.

[Commo_Soldier]

Looks like no one started in the cellar so maybe we dig and see if she is buried.

As for corrections.

Day One, Trail. Dubb said he voted for DV, but I will check to verify this. Also there was one vote for Mau, can't remember who, but it was either DZ or DV.

Items it would appear that a shotgun is in play and the book of the dead. Do we think the book of the dead can be a good thing to have/destroyed? I've never seen the movies, but I'd assume we want it out of evil hands.

I'll post this now for any new people about to come in.

Day One

*Road - Autumn, The Jackal, Zinto, NTNdeacon, MrBug708
3 votes for NTN (jackal, mrbug, ?), 1 for mrbug (me) 1 for ?

*Trail - Darth Vilus, Dubb, Mauboy, Commo, Dzilla
3 votes for no lynch

*Yard - bhlloy, mckerney, J23
1-1-1 vote

Study - tyketime, Chief Rum, Danny (finds spell here?), Narcizo
3 votes for Danny

Items

Shovel - found on Road by Autumn, first investigation
Knife - found in Woods by MrBug, first investigation; later found in corpse in Cabin by Danny, how?
Parchment - founds in Woods by Dubb, first investigation
Spell - found in Study by Danny, day one, how?

[Autumn]

Looks like no one started in the cellar so maybe we dig and see if she is buried.

As for corrections.

Day One, Trail. Dubb said he voted for DV, but I will check to verify this. Also there was one vote for Mau, can't remember who, but it was either DZ or DV.

Items it would appear that a shotgun is in play and the book of the dead. Do we think the book of the dead can be a good thing to have/destroyed? I've never seen the movies, but I'd assume we want it out of evil hands.

Do you see some evidence of the book besides it being mentioned by the dude in the recording? There's no evidence that it's necessarily an item we can pick up in the game, right? (not that it couldn't be).

Or maybe the parchments simply are parts of that?

[The Jackal]

Whoops, I just realized I never put in a vote for CR when I investigated. Don't think it would have made a difference anyways, but still my bad.

[The Jackal]

So a gun went off again? This should be interesting when we get down there.

[Commo_Soldier]

Hmm, just thought of something. The professor said he needed to dismember her, but couldn't. Does that mean we will have to dismember the dead, or will shooting them be enough?

[Autumn]

Hmm, just thought of something. The professor said he needed to dismember her, but couldn't. Does that mean we will have to dismember the dead, or will shooting them be enough?

That's what I'm saying, I think either there is one corpse down there which we must dig up and dismember, or possibly we just have to dismember any bad guys we lynch. Which means we definitely don't want ot be lynching them far away from us.

[The Jackal]

I never saw the evil dead movies but from what I remember from Army of Darkness, the book of the dead has the capability of producing very bad things if the person wielding it wants it to be that way (or screws up the pronunciation because he's bruce campbell). I imagine if its in the game we simply don't want it in the wrong hands or worse things will start to happen.

[Commo_Soldier]

Do you see some evidence of the book besides it being mentioned by the dude in the recording? There's no evidence that it's necessarily an item we can pick up in the game, right? (not that it couldn't be).

Or maybe the parchments simply are parts of that?

I'm almost positive the book is in this game. It was clear in the first post on the recording it was brought to the cabin, so it should be here, but what is interesting is no one has mentioned it, I wonder if it is already in evil hands.

So a gun went off again? This should be interesting when we get down there.

There are screams and a shotgun blast.

[Autumn]

So a gun went off again? This should be interesting when we get down there.

I think someone has a gun as a weapon, and it's therefore going off every lynch, just the way the knife and the shovel are part of our lynch votes.

At least that's how it seemed this time, though I think last time the gunshot came later than lynch, but maybe that was just when he processed results?

[Commo_Soldier]

Autumn, do you have the shovel and are you able to dig in the Cellar? If not, do we know who has the shovel?

[Autumn]

Autumn, do you have the shovel and are you able to dig in the Cellar? If not, do we know who has the shovel?

I have the shovel. I will try to see if I can dig, although I'd kind of rather have Danny and the knife with me when I do ;-)

[Autumn]

So, if I end up dying tonight, villagers, make sure you get hold of that shovel! The wolves might try to kill the people with items and get them in their clutches to keep us from doing the dirty work. I will pass the shovel tomorrow to keep that from happening.

[Commo_Soldier]

So, if I end up dying tonight, villagers, make sure you get hold of that shovel! The wolves might try to kill the people with items and get them in their clutches to keep us from doing the dirty work. I will pass the shovel tomorrow to keep that from happening.

Now that I know it won't matter because it is to late for night actions to change. I had a chainsaw, but could not use it. I've not said anything for that reason and wanted to wait to pass until I felt like I could reasonably trust someone. While I didn't feel to good about you 72 hours ago, I think it is likely you're a villager. So there is now a chainsaw coming your way. Hopefully this will help you defend yourself and dismember the body should there be one.

[Autumn]

Thanks, commo, that sounds better than a knife

[CrimsonFox]

A rattle on the cellar door. You hear a demonic voice all around you. Another rattle and a force against the cellar door. You get on top of it but tries to push out. You climb on top and then three of you are on top but it is strong. It's eye pops out and flies across the room into someone's mouth. The cellar then explodes. A hideous tree-creature erupts out. Its eyes glaze white. Its is all gnarled and bulbous and branchlike. A horrible noise coming from its mouth. Then hovering above the ground, it speaks ”We are the things that were and shall be again! it laughs. A voice comes out of his mouth. "Spirits of the book." "We want what is yours! LIFE!"
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[COLOR=DarkRed][B][COLOR=#C00000]He grabs som[COLOR=Black]eone by the head and flings them against the wall, then another. A couple of you charge forward and beat it and chop it into bits and again and again. It leaks out green goo everywhere and finally falls back down into the cellar.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/B][/COLOR]

[CrimsonFox]

Autumn gulps then heads off down into the cellar.

[CrimsonFox]

tyketime, J23, dzilla77, dubb, Jackal, and commo all go into the study and squeeze past bhlloy coming out.

[CrimsonFox]

The front door creaks open. It is Mr Bug, Zinto, and mckerney.

[mckerney]

Hello again bhlloy.

For information we have, it's not much. All we learned outside of the cabin is that DV was lynched and he was a human. None of us voted for anyone yesterday except for Zinto who seemed to be forced to vote for himself.

[MrBug708]

Ok now

[bhlloy]

Hey guys. It was lonely in there all by myself. I didn't find anything that interesting in there, so it was a wasted couple of days from that point of view.

I wish I had something to add here... seems like you guys have done a good job piecing together the recording and putting a theory forward.

[CrimsonFox]

hoopsguy, stop NETERing. If you NETER one more time, you're out of the game!

[CrimsonFox]

With this game, the WW forum has passed a quarter of a million posts. Happy Quartmil everyone! (and they can't ALL be from me)

[Zinto]

Well I am confused and I am not sure if voting someone today is a good idea either. For now I am going to just stay here.

Investigate Cabin

[mckerney]

Investigate Cabin

Vote J23

I have no idea what to do at this point either, but figure I'll go with my anyone voting for me must be a wolf belief.

Also there's been a lot of discussion on items in this thread, so I suppose I can say that I have an axe.

[mckerney]

Dammit, did that wrong.

Univestiage Cabin

Investigate Study

[Zinto]

I also have a parchment that I can not read so there is that.

[Zinto]

More than likely I am going to end up voting myself again. I believe I have done so the last two days(one of which I was on the trail by myself where I almost got killed by thorns).

[MrBug708]

I had a knife at one time, but the picture ate/took it (whatever that means)

investigate cabin

[CrimsonFox]

You look about the cabin and are comforted by some nice meloncholy piano playing. An eerie tune but it is better than silence. Then as you look back at the piano you realize no one is playing. You stare at the piano, afraid to approach it. Something outside catches your eye. You see a freshly dug grave with a makeshift cross and from that a skeletal arm emerges and waves at you. It snaps its fingers to the beat of the music.

[Zinto]

Another quiet day and it looks like we are more then likely not going to get a vote going so I will throw the second vote on J23 since I guess not voting will not help the village more than me voting.

Vote J23

[CrimsonFox]

The skeleton rises from the grave all decrepit and decaying. It is ntn's corpse. It spins and dances in a haunting skeletal ballet. His head pops up and rolls up to the skeleton. With a nimble foot, ntnskelly kicks the head up and it lands correctly in place. The body spins around and around while the head of ntn stays in place. Then the skeleton dose a swan leap and gracefully ballets into the woods.

[CrimsonFox]

You stare out the window at this gruesome site.

[CrimsonFox]

Suddenly ntn appears at the window, his eyes glazed white. He grabs hold of your head and headbutts you several times. "You will die. You will join us!" he shrieks. He opens his mouth in a biting motion and leans in to bite you....and you wake up sitting on the couch and in the rocking chair and such. ntn is no where in site.

[CrimsonFox]

You look around and heave a sigh of relief. Then a head drops into Zinto's lap. It is ntn. He looks fairly normal, he actually looks better than normal aside from being a head. He looks up at Zinto. "Hey there! WOuld you like a bite to eat?" and he bites Zinto on the hand. Zinto pounds on the thing and wedges the head in the piano, but nothing works. He then sticks it on the shards of glass and pokes its eyes and opens the door, winds up and throws the head off into the distance and shuts the door.

[CrimsonFox]

Zinto looks down at his hand. Ouch that hurts. darnit. The cracked hand opens a palm and smacks him in the face. It punches him again and then tries to choke him. It decides to vote for him too.

Zinto votes zinto

[CrimsonFox]

Sorry, it didn't use the proper format.
It punches zinto against for that.

zinto unvote j23
zinto vote zinto

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:

Zinto - Zinto (450)
j23 - mckerney (462)

INVESTIGATES:

cabin - zinto, MrBug
Study - mckerney

[CrimsonFox]

The hand gets really mad and hits Zinto in the back of the head knocking him down, it then tries dragging him over to the foreplace. It then changes its vote

unvote zinto
vote commo_soldier

[CrimsonFox]

VOTES:

commo_soldier - Zinto (464)
j23 - mckerney (462)

INVESTIGATES:

cabin - zinto, MrBug
Study - mckerney

[Zinto]

Dang these black eyes I am giving myself are not looking good.

[MrBug708]

investigate Cabin

investigate Woods

[MrBug708]

Oops

uninvestigate Cabin

investigate Woods

[CrimsonFox]

you may only investigate one place for your next investigate move. I'm taking the second one. WOODS

[bhlloy]

I'll go somewhere I haven't gone before

investigate woods

[CrimsonFox]

bhlloy, you don't see a way to the woods from here. Only to the yard, cellar, and study.

[CrimsonFox]

Many people enter the room as mckerney leaves to the study. tyketime, dzilla, j23, jackal, and dubb all arrive from the study. Then mauboy plods up the stairs into the room. He's a bit shaken. You close the cellar room behind him. bhlloy and zinto and bug are there looking pretty frazzled. Zinto has black eyes and a bloody nose.

[CrimsonFox]

You look around the room at each other. You feel as if you're about to crack up.

[CrimsonFox]

The deerhead on the wall cranes its neck and looks down at you laughing, its eyes glazed totally white.

[CrimsonFox]

And all of the following happens:

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[mauchow]

Oh, man, I forgot how creepy that deer was and how great that scene was.

[CrimsonFox]

With that, the shotgun in bhlloy's hands goes off. It shoots the head of ntn that had jumped back on the windowsill. It splatters across the yard out front.

[tyketime]

Well hell, that was some screwup by you guys in the Study!

I didn't want to vote Commo because he was the only one who stood by me all day. And when he didn't know his "expertise", I suspected he had a real role. Seems like the weapons and spell experts knew who they were. When he didn't, it signalled to me he had a real role. I sure didn't know he was Annie, but sheesh...

I took lots of notes, so I plan to review them. I will especially look at the ones who pushed a vote in his direction.

My first two suspects will be dzilla and dubb. Sorry - you guys got some serious explaining to do...

[mauchow]

Okay as for what happened down in the cellar --- chief and I went down together and he died by what I assume is the lynch last night. Chief was a bad dude, so good job for all those that voted him out last night. He was Getz and turned into an evil tree monster thingy. Evil, evil, evil.

Then Autumn came down last night. I was gone most of the day so I was not able to really talk much with him.

He was still alive as I came up the stairs.

I'll try to be as helpful as I can with everything - but it was pretty uneventful down there for us aside from CR dying last night.

CR voted for Danny last night, too, by the way.

[tyketime]

Looks like most of the gang is here in the Main Room. Time to sync up all our notes and clean this mess up.

[tyketime]

Okay as for what happened down in the cellar --- chief and I went down together and he died by what I assume is the lynch last night. Chief was a bad dude, so good job for all those that voted him out last night. He was Getz and turned into an evil tree monster thingy. Evil, evil, evil.
Thanks Mau... that's what a couple of us surmised. I suspected he was the lead vote-getter. The description wasn't precise, but you've confirmed for us what happened in the Cellar.

[CrimsonFox]

The deer laughs again and then suddenly reaches out and catches dzilla77 in his mouth. It lifts him off the ground leaving him hanging and flailing, grasping at the beast. The deer begins to chew. dzilla screams as more of his body is sucked up into the deer mouth a nibble at a time. black liquid pour out of the deers mouth, but he continues to be eaten by the mounted deer head. You grab him and pull the rest of him down. THe deer laughs at you.

You look head on into its dead white eyes. "I will swallow your sooooooooooooooooooooooooooul! Join us! Join us...in here....get in mah belly!!!!!!!!!!!!"

It's tongue lashes out and grabs the rest of dzilla who disappears into its mouth. Various things are dropped. at this violent activity. The deer licks his lips, then returns to being an ordinary deerhead on an ordinary wall.

[tyketime]

Then Autumn came down last night. I was gone most of the day so I was not able to really talk much with him.

He was still alive as I came up the stairs.
Hmmm... doesn't look like the description include that Autumn came with you from the Cellar. Where is he? Why didn't he come back into the Main Cabin with you?

[mauchow]

I voted Tyke tonight - and IIRC Autumn had a vote on Tyke and then unvoted and ended up on nobody.

[dzilla77]

Well hell, that was some screwup by you guys in the Study!

I didn't want to vote Commo because he was the only one who stood by me all day. And when he didn't know his "expertise", I suspected he had a real role. Seems like the weapons and spell experts knew who they were. When he didn't, it signalled to me he had a real role. I sure didn't know he was Annie, but sheesh...

I took lots of notes, so I plan to review them. I will especially look at the ones who pushed a vote in his direction.

My first two suspects will be dzilla and dubb. Sorry - you guys got some serious explaining to do...

Well, I was the second vote on CR (on Saturday). I see that you voted him as well as commo. Autumn made a late switch too.

Can't speak for dubb, except that I did scan him and he was good.

[mauchow]

Hmmm... doesn't look like the description include that Autumn came with you from the Cellar. Where is he? Why didn't he come back into the Main Cabin with you?

he was alive as I was coming back up - he stayed down in the cellar for tonight.

[mauchow]

meaning, he wasn't lynched.

[tyketime]

Victims
Victim #1: Darth Vilus
Victim #2: Autumn
Victim #3: Chief Rum
Victim #4: Danny
Victim #5: Zinto
Victim #6: J23
Victim #7: Narcizo - Dead - Human
Victim #8: bhlloy
Victim #9: MrBug
Victim #10: ntndeacon - Dead - Human
Victim #11: dzilla77 - Dead - Human, Professor's student.
Victim #12: mckerney
Victim #13: dubb
Victim #14: The Jackal
Victim #15: mauboy
Victim #16: Commo_Soldier - lynched - Annie
Victim #17: tyketime

This list may be updated during the game, but not necessarily with info from other threads. You are free to make your own assumptions and discoveries and post your own lists as you wish.

OK - looks like dzilla was a good guy. For those of you who were not in the Study, dzilla and I had a showdown today. I'm sure lots of others will chime in (there were 6 of us in the Study). But after further discussion, we both backed down, and unvoted each other. Now it's time to look at my notes to see who was pushing for me as well as Commo (who was Annie).

[Commo_Soldier]

The deer laughs again and then sudden reached out and catches dzilla77 in his mouth. It lifts him off the groun leaving him hanging and flailing, grasping at the beast. The deer begins to chew. dzilla screams as more of his body is sucked up into the deer mouth a nibble at a time. black liquid pour out of the deers mouth, but he continues to be eaten by the mounted deer head. You grab him and pull the rest of him down. THe deer laughs at you.

You look head on into its dead white eyes. "I will swallow your sooooooooooooooooooooooooooul! Join us! Join us...in here....get in mah belly!!!!!!!!!!!!"

It's tongue lashes out and grabs the rest of dzilla who disappears into its mouth. Various things are dropped. at this violent activity. The deer licks his lips, then returns to being an ordinary deerhead on an ordinary wall.

Well, I was the second vote on CR (on Saturday). I see that you voted him as well as commo. Autumn made a late switch too.

Can't speak for dubb, except that I did scan him and he was good.

Before you start talking too much, in case you missed it I believe you were night killed.

[tyketime]

he was alive as I was coming back up - he stayed down in the cellar for tonight.
Did he give you a reason why he stayed in the Cellar? Was there other discussion about objects, bodies, anything else from down in the Cellar?

[CrimsonFox]

It's cool. He knows. He was typing while I was typing.

[tyketime]

Before you start talking too much, in case you missed it I believe you were night killed.
Yup - I just copied in the Victim List freshly updated by CF with your description...

[dubb93]

Tyke seemed to know Common was good. Only one way he could know that.

vote tyke

[mauchow]

Did he give you a reason why he stayed in the Cellar? Was there other discussion about objects, bodies, anything else from down in the Cellar?

He wants to do some digging around and suggested someone with a knife or chainsaw to come downstairs to help him out.

[tyketime]

Can't speak for dubb, except that I did scan him and he was good.

Looks like his dying statement was your vindication.

So how sure are you now that Jackal & J23 are both clean? You felt strongly towards the end of the day that the only possible Evil beings were Commo and myself. Obviously Commo was clean. I was the only one that refused to vote for him. So... where do we go from here?

[dubb93]

We kill you tyke. That is where we go.

[tyketime]

Tyke seemed to know Common was good. Only one way he could know that.

vote tyke
dubb - take a breath and read your notes. You seem very quick to jump to conclusions. I saw the signal that he had a role. I didn't know which one, but he was either a wolf (which you ALL believed and were wrong) or a roled good player.

[tyketime]

We kill you tyke. That is where we go.
Well that would be a mistake...

[mauchow]

Good night.

[tyketime]

dubb - Look at the evidence here, as well as your notes from the Study. I voted Chief Rum two times, and he turned out to be Evil.