WW CXLI - The Legend Of Zelda The Village Wins

[Zinto]

The land of Hyrule is headed for dark times as Ganon has come from the dark realm once again to try and take over the land. Disguised as Ganondorf, king of the Gerudos he has gained access to the King in an attempt to feign peace and search for the key to his success the Triforce.

In order to take over Hyrule, Ganon knows that he must collect the three pieces of Triforce made by the goddesses who shaped the land. Power, wisdom, and courage and then the world will be conquered by him.

Only Link and Zelda can hope to save Hyrule but they will need help from the villagers of all races to help them see through Ganon's trickery.



Basic Werewolf Rules:
1. No editing of posts
2. No quoting of private messages
3. No discussion of the game outside of the thread

Voting:
To vote for someone bold your vote and put it into a separate line

Vote Zinto

To change your vote simply post an unvote and a new vote

Unvote Zinto
Vote Zinito

You may vote nightfall but once you do you can not change it

Vote Nightfall

You may vote No Lynch

Vote No Lynch

Deadlines:
Lynch:10 PM
Nigh Deadline:2 AM
No votes marked 10:01 will be accepted

[Zinto]

Good guys:
Link(The Martyr)- The hero of our story. He has reappeared time after time to stop Gannon each time he threatens Hyrule. Though inexperienced to begin his courage and will power have led him to victory every time he has been reincarnated.

Zelda(The Seer)- The princess of Hyrule. She has gone from damsel in distress to one of the most helpful people in Link's quest. She is the wisest of all the royalty in Hyrule and the only one who can see through Ganon's disguise.

The Citizens of Hyrule(The Village)- You maybe more concerned with games, horse riding, and a mysterious youth who keeps smashing your pots then the future of Hyrule but today your kingdom needs you will you be able to answer the call?

Bad Guys:
Ganondorf- The pig beast is a powerful sorcerer from the Dark World. He has the ability to shape shift and is currently disguised as the first male Gerudo in 100 years destined to be their king.

Gohma- One of Ganondorf's many minions. A giant arthropod with one eye.


Victory Conditions:
Good Guys win when all baddies have been eliminated.

Baddies win when they achieve a 1 to 1 ratio with the village.



Order of Night Actions:
1. Lynch
2. Night Actions that are not the kill
3. Night Kill
4. Item Pass

[Zinto]

List of the Awesome People Playing:

1.Mauboy-Martyred Night Two(Link)
2.CrimsonFox
3.Autumn-Lynched Day One(Gohma)
4.Tyrith
5.The Jackal
6.Danny
7.Chubby-Lynched Day Two(Villager)
8.Raiders Army
9.Narcizo-Night Killed Night One(Villager)

[Narcizo]

Vote the guy who was saying "Well eeexcuuuuuse me Princess" all the frigging time in that YouTube clip

[CrimsonFox]

Steve Martin?

[Zinto]

I am glad I accidentally deleted my rules and had to do that from memory so we shall see if I did not forget anything.

[Zinto]

Vote the guy who was saying "Well eeexcuuuuuse me Princess" all the frigging time in that YouTube clip

Just so everyone knows what this means:


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[mauchow]

in

[CrimsonFox]

in


But mau! It's Dangerous To Go Alone!

In :D

[Autumn]

Looks like fun. I'm in. I only played the original one so I will be imagining you all in 8-bit glory.

[hoopsguy]

Just so everyone knows what this means:


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I want that 1:49 of my life back.

[Tyrith]

I'll play. I may not be super active on some days next week - I'm off work, so I won't be at a computer all day.

[The Jackal]

I want that 1:49 of my life back.

You really watched the whole video? I got tired of it after about the fifth time he said it.

[hoopsguy]

You really watched the whole video? I got tired of it after about the fifth time he said it.

It was the "car wreck" phenomenon ... I wanted to look away, but for whatever reason I didn't.

[CrimsonFox]

It was the "car wreck" phenomenon ... I wanted to look away, but for whatever reason I didn't.

Here ya go, Hoops.

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[Autumn]

It was the "car wreck" phenomenon ... I wanted to look away, but for whatever reason I didn't.

You guys apparently don't know the Golden Rule of Werewolf - never click on a video CF posts.

[The Jackal]

You're a weird cat, CF. I like it.

And I'll join up for this game, I didn't get that job so I still have free time in my days.

[Autumn]

Maybe CF could run a game where he posts videos and we vote on which ones to lynch.

[Chief Rum]

Maybe CF could run a game where he posts videos and we vote on which ones to lynch.

In that case, can't we just go straight to voting CF for lynching?

[Narcizo]

In

[CrimsonFox]

You're a weird cat, CF. I like it.

And I'll join up for this game, I didn't get that job so I still have free time in my days.


Isn't that mesmerizing? People kept posting it when I was a forum moderator. As it is just a closed circuit there were various lengths of it. There's even a 10 hour version :).

It's a real polish song by a quartet of singers "animated with one of the (busty) characters from the anime "Bleach".


And hooray about the job, now you can play WW! I still think hoops should give me his job.

[CrimsonFox]

Maybe CF could run a game where he posts videos and we vote on which ones to lynch.

I could just do that as a dynasty! :)

[Danny]

ill play

[Chief Rum]

And hooray about the job, now you can play WW! I still think hoops should give me his job.

Heh... yeah, 'cuz not getting a job is a "hooray" moment, lol. :)

[CrimsonFox]

Oh so contigency scan orders are worthless then...
So if my scan order is: Danny/Jackal and Danny gets NKed then my scan choice was still Danny. right?

Also will we know what the named characcters do before the game starts or is that hidden? (although I can kinda guess the good guys)

And all the vanillas are actually bodyguard dukes right?

[Zinto]

Oh so contigency scan orders are worthless then...
So if my scan order is: Danny/Jackal and Danny gets NKed then my scan choice was still Danny. right?

Also will we know what the named characcters do before the game starts or is that hidden? (although I can kinda guess the good guys)

And all the vanillas are actually bodyguard dukes right?


Is the contingency scan order common in these games because if that is more the norm then I will put it in the game.

You will not know the bad guys(they will be random bosses from the games) and depending on how many players we have then there will be a couple villagers with powers with generic names like Mayor or Judge and I will change the rules if they are inserted into the game.

[Zinto]

I am planning on sending out roles on Sunday night with the first deadline Monday. Depending on how may people join I might make this a more basic werewolf game.

[Autumn]

I'm not sure where CF saw anything about contingency orders, but I think conditional orders are up to you. I would tend to use conditional orders for games with one deadline, so yo'ure not scanning someone who was lynched. But with a four hour later night deadline, I don't think you necessarily need them.

[CrimsonFox]

I said that becvause of THIS:


Order of Night Actions:
1. Lynch
2. Night Actions that are not the kill
3. Night Kill
4. Item Pass

Thus scans happen BEFORE kills so it's very easy to waste a scan.
I think typically games have the NKs first and thus use the backup as the scan. Although I could be mistaken. There really isn't a "usually" anymore :) It's whatever you wanna do.

[Autumn]

I think it's usual to do kills last. That's what I've always considered "normal" at least. I'll be interested to see what others do.

[Narcizo]

Sorry Zinto - I've looked at my schedule next week and there's no way I can play - you'll have to pull me from the game.

[Danny]

yep, kills typically happen last

[Abe Sargent]

Was Listening to: Pristina, feat Annabel Adams, Can You Hear Us?

Now Listening To: Erasure, Take a Chance on Me

Next in Random Queue: Deep Forest, Sweet Lullaby

[Abe Sargent]

This stuff will not end, because I was killed poorly. It is my vengeance! :)

[Autumn]

How many days do we have to keep you alive before you stop? Because I'm willing to make this deal.

[CrimsonFox]

Abe HAS to join the game now! And I'm in on this deal! :)

[CrimsonFox]

I'll even stop posting movies.

[Abe Sargent]

I would just like to point out that lynching a guy day one under these circumstances is weak strategy:


1). 50/50 chance of any villager having a role
2). They post saying they are heading out for a dinner with friends for at last most of the night a few hours before deadline, and all of the movement comes afterwards, leaving little chance for a reveal.

Sad sad sad

[CrimsonFox]

You haven't been around lately but both of those things usually guarantee your lynching nowadays because no one believes anything anyone with the rash of fake reveals and wolves using real life as a reason they do ANYTHING. It's a new era. :)

[Abe Sargent]

Was Listening to: Pet Shop Boys, Integral

Now Listening to: Morcheeba, Wonders Never Cease

Next in Queue: Roxette, The Look

[Abe Sargent]

I said that becvause of THIS:



Thus scans happen BEFORE kills so it's very easy to waste a scan.
I think typically games have the NKs first and thus use the backup as the scan. Although I could be mistaken. There really isn't a "usually" anymore :) It's whatever you wanna do.

I do kills after scans, blocks, making items, interdictions, soothsaying, crazy granny and stuff.

[Abe Sargent]

The real question is whether to do scans pre- or post- conversion. I love conversion as a mechanic as long as you tell people it can happen in the opening rules. I've used it in Fightin' Fundies vs Them Gays, Red Death, Mine Wars, and more. But the real question is what to do when someone seers a person who is also targeted by a conversion. Who goes first, and in what order? Rough question, because either answer screws a side.

Do the wolves want to convert only to find that their precious conversion is outed before they can do anything?

Do the villagers want to find out that a person scanned by a seer has been a wolf on the same night scanned?

Ick.

[Abe Sargent]

Was Listening To: Chicago, Mongonucleosis

Now listening to: Sophie B Hawkins, Damn I wish I Was Your Lover

Next in Random Queue: Duran Duran, Notorius

[CrimsonFox]

Wolves usually have it hard enough I think. I'd give it to the wolves and let the village know ahead of time that's the order. That way they can argue about that possibility ad nauseum.

[CrimsonFox]

And this is good to know that's how it usually works. I never really thought much about it as I don't think it's ever come up except for Narcizo scanning people and then going to bed and they reveal. ;)

[J23]

This stuff will not end, because I was killed poorly. It is my vengeance! :)

I'm tempted to sign up for the game to simply vote you for this, even if I don't have time to actively participate. :)

[Abe Sargent]

I haven't signed up, so HA! ;)

[CrimsonFox]

danny,m can you set something up to keep people from posting anything but the word "in"?
and once they do that THEN they can yammer? :)

[Zinto]

Yeah everyone should join!

[Zinto]

Sorry Zinto - I've looked at my schedule next week and there's no way I can play - you'll have to pull me from the game.


No worries Narcizo.

[Danny]

danny,m can you set something up to keep people from posting anything but the word "in"?
and once they do that THEN they can yammer? :)

Not officially, but I can threaten to send them nude pictures of myself.

[Abe Sargent]

Vote Hot Danny

[CrimsonFox]

That's true. Danny IS Hot.

VOTE HOT DANNY

[Chubby]

sure why not, i'm in

[CrimsonFox]

3536

This Halloween I went as a villager! :D

[Autumn]

Very nice, CF.

Zinto, I think you'll want to advertise on the off topic forum. Maybe tomorrow after Halloween we'll pick up some folks.

[Abe Sargent]

Was Listening To: Berri, Sunshine After the Rain


Now Listening To: Pet Shop Boys, Flamboyant


Next in Random Queue: Ani Lorak, Shady Lady

[Zinto]

Very nice, CF.

Zinto, I think you'll want to advertise on the off topic forum. Maybe tomorrow after Halloween we'll pick up some folks.


Will do. Crimson pmed me to do so but this weekend was super busy for me so I have not got a chance to do so yet. Honestly if we get one more person I will run a small game instead of a full size one.

[Raiders Army]

Got pinged by CF. I'll take a look at my schedule and see if I can play.

[CrimsonFox]

Anyone else think they can squeeze in a game? Come on, we need more peeps. (peep peep peep). Abe? You've been superlurking. :) Got time for a game?

[mauchow]

How do we go from 20 person games to minimal interest? Huh...

[CrimsonFox]

Let's blame Autumn! Yeah!

[Autumn]

Yeah, I scared them off pretty good.

In defense it was one of my games a year or so ago that sparked a new series of 20+ games. So I come out neutral.

[Zinto]

Alright so we are sitting at seven, so if two more people would like to join we can start today!

[Abe Sargent]

Anyone else think they can squeeze in a game? Come on, we need more peeps. (peep peep peep). Abe? You've been superlurking. :) Got time for a game?

I prefer "MEGALURKING!!!!!!!OMG!!!!!!"

[CrimsonFox]

Yeah, I scared them off pretty good.

In defense it was one of my games a year or so ago that sparked a new series of 20+ games. So I come out neutral.


Okay guys he's sorry and if you come back and join this game, Autumn promises NOT to dance naked in the thread.

[Autumn]

Also, CF promises not to post anything for the whole first day.

[CrimsonFox]

Then I'm out :(

[Abe Sargent]

These are very disappointing promises. I want naked dancing, I want CF to be super-mega-annoying poster and I need Danny's nude pics.

[CrimsonFox]

Okay I won't post any movies the whole game. I'll get theme out of the way now. In all it's great 8-bit glory, the best game theme ever:

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[CrimsonFox]

For those unfamiliar with the theme especially the original, here's a good example:

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I did find a complete max/min walkthru of it but the guy talks over it and is mega-annoying.

[Danny]

Maybe we would be best off running a small game or two as a break before we hit it back up with the long games. We've had one great big game after another, so it makes sense we would hit a lull at some point.

Zinto, let me know if this is ok with you. If you are someone else runs a small game, that does not impact your place on the signup list, so you can come back to this game.

[CrimsonFox]

Maybe we would be best off running a small game or two as a break before we hit it back up with the long games. We've had one great big game after another, so it makes sense we would hit a lull at some point.

Zinto, let me know if this is ok with you. If you are someone else runs a small game, that does not impact your place on the signup list, so you can come back to this game.

Confused at this. Zinto is running a small game, isn't he?

[Danny]

I don't know his plans for the game, but I don't see anything about it supposed to be a small game. Small games are usually 9-11 people and are simple in nature.

[CrimsonFox]

I don't know his plans for the game, but I don't see anything about it supposed to be a small game. Small games are usually 9-11 people and are simple in nature.


Ah, well he keeps saying he'll run it as a small game in the 9-11 people realm. Either in this thread or the one in the offtopic forum. I know he said it somewhere. But I think I see what you're saying.

[Autumn]

I promise to do role reveals next time everybody!

[CrimsonFox]

Okay Autumn, I challenge you to a 1 on 1 WW game, winner take all.

Let's go!

VOTE Autumn,

[Zinto]

Maybe we would be best off running a small game or two as a break before we hit it back up with the long games. We've had one great big game after another, so it makes sense we would hit a lull at some point.

Zinto, let me know if this is ok with you. If you are someone else runs a small game, that does not impact your place on the signup list, so you can come back to this game.


Yeah I am planning on making this a small game I just haven't got around to changing the rule set on the first page

[Autumn]

Okay Autumn, I challenge you to a 1 on 1 WW game, winner take all.

Let's go!

VOTE Autumn,

Damn, I hope first vote isn't the tiebreaker.

[J23]

I'd jump in and play if I had some time to spare, but I'm getting crushed at work right now.

[hoopsguy]

I'd jump in and play if I had some time to spare, but I'm getting crushed at work right now.

I'm in same boat - won't be able to do WW for a couple of weeks.

[Raiders Army]

I'll play.

[Abe Sargent]

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/7/73/Lexington_Combat_Group.jpg

[Zinto]

We only need one more person!

[Narcizo]

This week is pretty much over so I can play.

[Zinto]

:)

[Zinto]

I am studying for an exam right now but once I finish class at around 6:45 I will update the rules and send out roles.

[Zinto]

Rules are updates and roles are going out now!

[Zinto]

Roles are all sent out vanilla PM looks like this:

You are a villager. You know something sinister is happening and you want to figure out what it is.

[Zinto]

First day deadline is Friday at 10 PM!

[Zinto]

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[The Jackal]

Something sinister is happening! Give me an ocarina!

[CrimsonFox]

That a serious theme there! :)

[Chubby]

plain old villager for once, working til 6pm EST today so i'll catch up on any rules changes and vote then

[Raiders Army]

I'm a villager. I know something sinister is happening and I want to figure out what it is.

Checking in. I don't have FOFC access at work but I can check in on my phone. Let's get a wolf today!

[Raiders Army]

Just a random vote right now:

VOTE CRIMSON FOX

Thanks for sending me the note to join!

[Narcizo]

Vote Raiders Army

Either you're a wolf trying to buy trust by quoting the villager PM that has been given a bit earlier in the thread or you're quoting the villager PM you got, which is just as bad.

Or, you know, you're just messing around somehow, so sorry about that one.

[CrimsonFox]

Just a random vote right now:

VOTE CRIMSON FOX

Thanks for sending me the note to join!


I guess I need to stop doing that. :)

[mauchow]

Good morning everyone, villager checking in.

[CrimsonFox]

Since I am a villager, need not worry. My friends will protect me.

Throwin out a random vote in the spirit of Autumn's vote early vote autu, I mean vote often policy...

VOTE TYRITH

[Autumn]

Hey, glad we're going already. I'm going to get some food and check to see any rule changes since I first read. Nine person game, this will be fast and furious! (no, don't anyone get the idea to make a Fast and Furious WW game).

[Danny]

Vote Autumn

For his dark knight game, haha

[Autumn]

All right, glad to see it's confirmed we have two bad guys. Had to be two, but I like when we're given the information and don't have to waste posts debating it. A martyr and a seer. Not a lot of firepower on the villager side, and if we vote wrong three times straight we're done, so we've got to really focus. Which means we need plenty of posting these first few days, I hope people step up. Looking at the player list I suspect we will.

[Danny]

And his masterful wolf performance the game before. He killed us all as the red death and then killed werewolf

[Autumn]

And his masterful wolf performance the game before. He killed us all as the red death and then killed werewolf

lol, I am the meta-werewolf! You thought me an innocent werewolf player, but no!

[Danny]

Wow no BG. I really hope there is no cunning wolf. It would make the seer worthless. For that matter, I think we have to hope neither wolf has a role as that would make the game awfully tough

[The Jackal]

Bad Guys:
Ganondorf- The pig beast is a powerful sorcerer from the Dark World. He has the ability to shape shift and is currently disguised as the first male Gerudo in 100 years destined to be their king.

Do we think this means cunning? I would doubt it in a small game, and the shapeshifting is probably just flavor, but wanted to throw it out there.

[Autumn]

Zinto forgot to mention ... no role reveals!

[Autumn]

Do we think this means cunning? I would doubt it in a small game, and the shapeshifting is probably just flavor, but wanted to throw it out there.

I think it's just the flavor for why we don't know he's the bad guy. Why we don't notice the bug guy is beyond me.

And the seer specifically says she can look through is disguise, so it's definitely not cunning.

[Danny]

Do we think this means cunning? I would doubt it in a small game, and the shapeshifting is probably just flavor, but wanted to throw it out there.

I really hope not. I really hate cunning wolves in a small two wolf game. It makes the seer have null value as he is just as likely to clear a wolf as to find one.

[Autumn]

I think we've got a very basic, two wolves, a seer. We've got the martyr who can keep the seer alive one more night. Werewolf, straight up.

I think the thing we have to avoid in these small games is anyone idling through. This is the sort of game where we can't afford to "remember" three days in that someone's playing.

[The Jackal]

I think it's just the flavor for why we don't know he's the bad guy. Why we don't notice the bug guy is beyond me.

And the seer specifically says she can look through is disguise, so it's definitely not cunning.

Good call on the seer description, looks like it's straightforward.

[The Jackal]

I will

vote mau

[Autumn]

CF - RA
RA - Narcizo
Tyrith - CrimsonFox
Autumn - Danny
Mauboy - The Jackal

Yay, more than half the roster has a vote!

[Tyrith]

Whee, we're all over the place so far. I'll just reciprocate the vote I took; this is a placeholder vote.

VOTE CRIMSONFOX

[Tyrith]

Vote Raiders Army

Either you're a wolf trying to buy trust by quoting the villager PM that has been given a bit earlier in the thread or you're quoting the villager PM you got, which is just as bad.

Or, you know, you're just messing around somehow, so sorry about that one.

I don't really get this vote at all, personally.

[CrimsonFox]

Do we think this means cunning? I would doubt it in a small game, and the shapeshifting is probably just flavor, but wanted to throw it out there.

I was thinking it meant that as well Jackal. The whole disguise thing. That smacks of cunning. I don't think it's Abe;s shapeshiufter unless autumn has managed to shift INTO another game. That would be brilliant.

[CrimsonFox]

We're almost on our way to having each person receive a vote from someone else. Way to spoil it Tyrith. I should vote for you for spoiling that.

[The Jackal]

The seer description allays my fears about a cunning role, CF.

[Tyrith]

We're almost on our way to having each person receive a vote from someone else. Way to spoil it Tyrith. I should vote for you for spoiling that.

Feel free. :p

[Narcizo]

Aye I expect two vanilla wolves, a basic seer and martyr to allow the seer to reveal and survive one night. Bodyguards are considered a bit of a luxury in your standard games elsewhere, they're not the norm they seem to be here it would be a real advantage in a small game like this.

Agree - we have 3 days to hit a wolf or we lose. Matyr instead of bodyguard means that the game has a maximum of 4 nights or so.

[Autumn]

I was thinking it meant that as well Jackal. The whole disguise thing. That smacks of cunning. I don't think it's Abe;s shapeshiufter unless autumn has managed to shift INTO another game. That would be brilliant.

That would be an awesome idea, feeding into my meta-Werewolf game.

[Narcizo]

Added to that if we don't hit a wolf on day one or two there's really no margin for error on day three - as 3:2 means that only one villager has to be wrong and we lose. Don't think we can count on getting a wolfie on day one which makes day two a clutch day for us.

[Narcizo]

I hate small games because they're so unforgiving in terms of misses. Well that and the fact that you really need to be around to react to things during the day which I can't be. And the roads. And indoor plumbing.

[Raiders Army]

Sometimes my humor is missed. :(

[Raiders Army]

Hopefully we can get lucky today or wolf will misstep in the voting. I agree with such a small number of players we're going to have to hit a wolf on day 1 or 2. There's little room for error.

[CrimsonFox]

I hate small games because they're so unforgiving in terms of misses. Well that and the fact that you really need to be around to react to things during the day which I can't be. And the roads. And indoor plumbing.

(and peace)

[CrimsonFox]

Sometimes my humor is missed. :(


Which part should I think is funny? The part where you voted for me or the part... no, I kind of stopped there. :)

[Tyrith]

The smaller the game, the higher the variance. But that's okay - it's just inherent in the setup. It's a nice change of pace to not have to commit to something for two weeks.

[Tyrith]

I do think at some point today we need to consolidate. The lynch happening on someone with three votes is going to guarantee a bad result for us.

[CrimsonFox]

I do think at some point today we need to consolidate. The lynch happening on someone with three votes is going to guarantee a bad result for us.

Well that much is obvious but you seem a little overzealous to get me lynched. It's still morning.

[Narcizo]

I do think at some point today we need to consolidate. The lynch happening on someone with three votes is going to guarantee a bad result for us.

Not necessarily. And there's a long way to go (for the rest of you). I think with Autumn and Danny onboard there's little chance of someone getting lynched with three votes.

[Autumn]

Deadlines are EST, Zinto?

[Autumn]

We'll certainly have to consolidate but I think all of us are hoping to see something to give us a vote. Five out of nine have votes, so we've probably got a wolf out there somewhere.

[Autumn]

I don't think we've seen Chubby, right?

[Autumn]

Or Mauboy?

[CrimsonFox]

I've seen mauboy he just hasn't voted. He said hi I think.

[Narcizo]

I don't really get this vote at all, personally.

What's not to get?


2. No quoting of private messages



You are a villager. You know something sinister is happening and you want to figure out what it is.

I'm a villager. I know something sinister is happening and I want to figure out what it is.


Either Raiders is a wolf, the seer, the martyr or a big fat cheaty cheater. ;)

[Narcizo]

Chubby checked in and then said he'd be around later or some such.

[Narcizo]

Unvote Raiders
Vote Tyrith

[Autumn]

I'm hoping to hear from Chubby and Mauboy before I vote. We need to make sure not to consolidate so early in a small game that the wolves don't have to sweat anything.

[Zinto]

Deadlines are EST, Zinto?


Yes they are.

[CrimsonFox]

We should rename the game. It's now: The Legend of Zinto

[Autumn]

I think we shoudl name it I Can't Believe Nobody's Posted. That's what I've been calling it for the past three hours.

[CrimsonFox]

But it's not butter either.

[Narcizo]

Aye Crimson's being very quiet. Obviously something up with that.

[Tyrith]

What's not to get?







Either Raiders is a wolf, the seer, the martyr or a big fat cheaty cheater. ;)

He didn't quote his PM, he quoted the post Zinto put as the default villager PM. I just took it as him saying he was a vanilla villager.

[CrimsonFox]

I'm too busy posting in the child abuse thread and the not hot poppy montgomery thread.

[Tyrith]

Well that much is obvious but you seem a little overzealous to get me lynched. It's still morning.

Did I say anything about consolidating on you? :P It's a Friday in a small game, I don't think we can safely assume everyone is still going to be around this evening. I'd rather not let everything hang out until an hour before the deadline.

[Autumn]

I'd rather not too, but I was hoping to hear more from everybody before we bothered consolidating. I should be around tonight so I'll continue holding on. Chubby at least should have plenty to say when he shows up ;-)

[CrimsonFox]

if we make it to 500 posts, i'll be impressed.

[Chubby]

Vote Raiders Army

it's a crapshoot and Narc unvoted him so why not?

[Zinto]

if we make it to 500 posts, i'll be impressed.


Getting to 500 posts is over rated

[Zinto]

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Raiders-Chubby(152)
Tyrith-Crimson(100), Narcizo(140)
Autumn-Danny(102)
Mauboy-Jackal(113)


Yet to Vote: Mauboy, Autumn

[mauchow]

Hey guys, sorry about that. Had a busy day at work.

[Raiders Army]

Either Raiders is a wolf, the seer, the martyr or a big fat cheaty cheater. ;)

Technically, I didn't quote anything verbatim. Jeez, sometimes you can't say anything...

[Raiders Army]

Which part should I think is funny? The part where you voted for me or the part... no, I kind of stopped there. :)

Okay...I was going to move my vote off you, but now it's going to have to stick in self-defense! I would be willing to look in Narcizo's direction though...

[Raiders Army]

Oops. I thought I had two votes. I'll move off CF.

UNVOTE CRIMSON FOX
VOTE NARCIZO

For giving me crap about trying (unsuccessfully) to be humorous and also because I had a feeling you were a wolf in the last game I played with you!

[Raiders Army]

Hrm. Pretty quiet in here.

[mauchow]

vote narcizo

I'm going on what his initial post was, which Tyrith also pointed out. THat's about the only thing I've seen all day thats pinged interesting to me.

[Autumn]

Well, you guys have failed to do anything interesting to help me out. On to vote in a moment.

[Autumn]

What was it about Narc's initial post? that he voted RA?

Frankly, I'm not likely to vote Narc, since he's not around at deadline. Kind of a problem if he's a wolf, but I think if people want to vote him they need to do it early in the day so he has a chance to talk.

Should be a quick read through the day's posts and see if anything jumps out at me.

[Tyrith]

Okay, this isn't what I was hoping for today - no one has more than two votes at this point.

[Autumn]

Well, nothing really, of course. But two people rubbed me the wrong way somehow, CF and Jackal. And since CF has a vote, I'll go there for now. He's hard to figure out, so not bad to put some pressure early anyway.

<b>VOTE CRIMSON FOX</b>

[Tyrith]

My vote is going somewhere more productive than this.

UNVOTE CRIMSONFOX

[Tyrith]

Wow, cross-post fail...so if I vote for CF, I have two, CF has two, and Narc has two. Self defense vote then, it seems.

VOTE NARCIZO

[Autumn]

grrr

[Autumn]

Well, we have some time for others to show up and consolidate. I don't really get a wolf vibe from Tyrith, but I am not likely to vote Narc when he could be one of our roled villagers just as easily as a wolf, and isn't here to say so.

[Tyrith]

Outside of meta reasons I'm pretty content with my vote. I'd also switch back to CF. Rather not kill RA today because of meta reasons also.

[Autumn]

Rather not kill RA today because of meta reasons also.

Are we still in the Al Davis mourning period?

[Autumn]

Oh man, for real? This quiet on day one? I've got some stuff I want to do and I guess if nobody's in here talking I'll go do it.

[Raiders Army]

Outside of meta reasons I'm pretty content with my vote. I'd also switch back to CF. Rather not kill RA today because of meta reasons also.

Awww...thanks! I'm not sure what those reasons are though!

[Raiders Army]

but I am not likely to vote Narc when he could be one of our roled villagers just as easily as a wolf, and isn't here to say so.
Did he say he wasn't going to be here? I didn't catch that.

[Raiders Army]

Ahhhh...it doesn't matter to me much anyhow. I'm going to stick on him. I don't have a better candidate at this point.

[mauchow]

Narcizo lives on the other side of the world.

[Raiders Army]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[mauchow]

unvote narcizo
vote autumn

I'm getting the feeling he's a wolf. I'm gonna go ahead and go all in on this one. I usually get pretty good reads of Autumn

[Raiders Army]

Okay...three way tie...right?

[Raiders Army]

Wow, cross-post fail...so if I vote for CF, I have two, CF has two, and Narc has two. Self defense vote then, it seems.

VOTE NARCIZO

Okay, going back to this post. I get this then. It seemed weird you voted with me and then moved with me again. I see from this post why.

[Raiders Army]

Chubby or Jackal can break the tie. I'll sit it out for another ten minutes, but if they don't show up, I'll switch my vote and break it.

[Raiders Army]

C'mon villagers! We can't let the wolves win due to apathy!

[Zinto]

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Crimson- Autumn(164)
Raiders-Chubby(152)
Tyrith-Crimson(100), Narcizo(140)
Autumn-Danny(102),Mauboy(177)
Mauboy-Jackal(113)
Narcizo-Raiders(158), Tyrith(166)

[Tyrith]

Self-defense again.

UNVOTE NARCIZO
VOTE AUTUMN

[Raiders Army]

Okay...I got engrossed in the Survivor Thread. Thanks Tyrith for breaking the tie. I'll leave it alone then.

[mauchow]

Did we determine what the tie-breaker is? No lynch

[mauchow]

No lynch? I meant to say..

[Raiders Army]

I'm out for the night. Good luck to us!

[mauchow]

RA, go ahead and assume Autumn is a self defense vote as well.

[Raiders Army]

Huh?

[mauchow]

If autumn was here he'd vote tyrith, so it'd be tied again.

[Raiders Army]

Oh. I see. :)
UNVOTE NARCIZO
VOTE AUTUMN

[Raiders Army]

Okay, for real, I'm out.

[mauchow]

Thanks.

[mauchow]

*crosses fingers*

[Zinto]

Deadline

[Zinto]

Vote Count:

Crimson- Autumn(164)
Raiders-Chubby(152)
Tyrith-Crimson(100), Narcizo(140)
Autumn-Danny(102),Mauboy(177),Tyrith(183),Raiders(191)
Mauboy-Jackal(113)

[Autumn]

Wow, guys, that was bs. I leave because noone but me is around to discuss and you blindside me?

[Autumn]

Honestly, the one night in several months I'm not sitting here at my computer working and decided to go relax. That's lame.

[mauchow]

Sorry man, I saw your ID online at 8:45..

[Autumn]

I was keeping it reloading on the iPad while I was playing Madden, to see if anybody was doing anything. I never saw any activity and stopped paying attnetion.

[Autumn]

How do you guys know I'm not the seer? That's a pretty ridiculous move by the village, really. It's no wonder we have killed off our major roles in almost every game lately. Oh well, I guess I'll go back to what I was doing.

[Zinto]

After a day of deliberation, you decide there is something sinister about Autumn, not only has he laughed at each and every one of you about your pots being smashed but he has been leaving weird eggs everywhere. So with that you take Autumn to the guillotine and discover:

Autumn was Gohma

[Zinto]

Night actions due at 2 AM

[mauchow]

Fuck yeah. Sorry Autumn, I swear, for some reason I can read you.

[mauchow]

And now for me to die.

[mauchow]

If I die - please take a look at Raiders Army.

[mauchow]

In my opinion for now...

Good:

Me
Tyrith

Okay:

Danny

Unknown:

The rest..

[mauchow]

I think we could also agree Autumn's vote of CF could put him in the okay category, leaving us with these to look at for tomorrow:

Jackal, Chubby, RA and Narcizo.

[mauchow]

Now I know how Autumn feels, talking to himself - except I'm not a wolf. Na-nana-boo-boo.

[Danny]

Sweet! Sorry for not being around much

[Danny]

I had gut feeling with autums first post or two but really just luck

[CrimsonFox]

back. sorry i flaked. had to go to bed. was up > 24 hours. Trying to get my sleep schedule back. That was kinda crappy doing that to autumn especially when he was trying to generate some chatter but at least he was a wolf. :)

We COULD be done by tomorrow.

[Zinto]

Deadline

[Zinto]

You awake to find Narcizo's lifeless body surrounded by a bunch of chickens. Some of you think that he made the mistake of kicking one chicken too many times, till it called his friends and they made short work of Narcizo, while others think that something much, much worse happened.

Narcizo was a villager.

[CrimsonFox]

Well mau, Gannon shortened your list for you. Thanks GannoN!

[CrimsonFox]

Was going to vote Raiders, but because of his total driveby

VOTE CHUBBY

[Danny]

back. sorry i flaked. had to go to bed. was up > 24 hours. Trying to get my sleep schedule back. That was kinda crappy doing that to autumn especially when he was trying to generate some chatter but at least he was a wolf. :)

We COULD be done by tomorrow.

Nothing crappy in a 9 person game. No one gets leeway as there is no time to see how things work out.

[Danny]

Narc seems like an odd choice with Mau, Tyrith and I out there. I guess they thought he was the seer?

[Danny]

The wolf is not raiders army, he was around made posts between the second and third vote for Autumn. I think if he was Autumns wolf buddy he puts down his vote there for sure, either on Autumn to buy trust or on someone else to help Autumn.

[Danny]

So going with the idea that Mau, Tyrith, Raiders and I are unlikely to be wolves, that leaves three people.

Chubby, Crimson and Jackal

[Danny]

Well, nothing really, of course. But two people rubbed me the wrong way somehow, CF and Jackal. And since CF has a vote, I'll go there for now. He's hard to figure out, so not bad to put some pressure early anyway.

<b>VOTE CRIMSON FOX</b>

This leads me to eliminate Crimson. That would leave Jackal and Chubby. Right now leaning Jackal based on this, but will look some more.

[Danny]

Vote Jackal

I think Autumn mentions his fellow wolf along with his vote target to potentially set something up for later. I see that done and do it myself. Bring up your ally as someone suspicious, but not drop the vote there.

[CrimsonFox]

Now I know how Autumn feels, talking to himself - except I'm not a wolf. Na-nana-boo-boo.

stick your head in doo doo

[Chubby]

I'm plain Jane villager so I don't mind being offed to save Link or Zelda.

Vote Jackal

self defense

[mauchow]

When is the next deadline?

[CrimsonFox]

heh. Ah yes it IS Saturday.

[mauchow]

I might be going against my own logic today - We'll see. I'll keep an eye out on everything before voting.

[Raiders Army]

Well, I'm glad we got Gohma...although my vote had little to do with it in the end. Sorry you're gone Narc, although it's a strange kill. I would've voted for him today.

Are we doing a vote today?

We only have Gannon left; I've never played Zelda so all I can think of is Rich Gannon. I don't particularly like him so much any more because he has been saying a lot of bad things about the Raiders since he retired...so it works for me that he's a bad guy. :)

[The Jackal]

Sorry for missing the time leading up to the deadline, had a kitchen problem to take care of and my girlfriend and I are both sick. Dang ear infection. Turns out to be a pretty good result and if I have to die it's alright because I'm not the seer or martyr, so the village is in good shape.

When is the next deadline?

[The Jackal]

I guess if I'm going between CF and Chubby I should roll with Chubby based on Autumn's vote.

vote chubby

[mauchow]

I'm curious to hear the results of the seer last night. I wonder if that person chose one of the three being discussed today so that this list may be cut down by one more person.

[mauchow]

I would not be surprised if the seer scanned Narcizo, too. Which of course would suck.

[Zinto]

The next deadline is up to you guys, I assumed Monday would probably be the preferred choice.

[The Jackal]

Yeah I'm guessing Monday is best.

[Tyrith]

Yeah, I would rather wait until Monday as well.

[Zinto]

Monday it is

[Danny]

The wolf is jackal. Game, set, match

[Danny]

Just for the record though I am not the seer

[CrimsonFox]

93 bots. :( This poor forum. :(

[mauchow]

The wolf is jackal. Game, set, match

Care to expand?

[The Jackal]

The wolf is jackal. Game, set, match

Sorry Danny, your gut is off on this one

[The Jackal]

I'll take a look at the vote chart tomorrow when I have more time, I'm not necessarily convinced the wolves avoided each other D1. I remember the last small game I was in I was a wolf with mau and we avoided each other D1 and it really should have cost us the game if not for stubborn play by the village.

In general you are always tempted as a wolf with only one partner to avoid that person as long as possible for preservation sake, but when Autumn was on the block like that it may be interesting to go back and look at how it happened.

[CrimsonFox]

I'm sticking with Chubby. I think he's our man.

[mauchow]

I'd personally like to add Danny into the mix of things. He's the one I was talking about going against the grain with. Just odd behavior all around. I'm not ready to vote him today but I'll definitely have him in the back of my mind.

[Danny]

I'd personally like to add Danny into the mix of things. He's the one I was talking about going against the grain with. Just odd behavior all around. I'm not ready to vote him today but I'll definitely have him in the back of my mind.

I always like when someone points out me having odd behavior as a reason for me being a wolf when I am much, much more likely to avoid that as a wolf.

That said, I was not around yesterday and it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility that I laid down an early vote on a fellow wolf. That said, you can bet I would have checked back in if I was a wolf.

[Danny]

I'd personally like to add Danny into the mix of things. He's the one I was talking about going against the grain with. Just odd behavior all around. I'm not ready to vote him today but I'll definitely have him in the back of my mind.

And quite frankly, a vote for anyone other than Jackal or Chubby seems like a bad play today.

And people still don't get it that I say certain things to see how people react.

[mauchow]

And quite frankly, a vote for anyone other than Jackal or Chubby seems like a bad play today.

And people still don't get it that I say certain things to see how people react.

vote danny

[Danny]

vote danny

Yeah, great vote :rolleyes:

[Danny]

I'd have to believe that the remaining wolf likely jump on Chubby or Jackal after the initial vote was placed. It's interesting that both Jackal and Chubby jumped on each other after the initial vote was placed. I strongly believe the last wolf is among those two. I'm actually not 100% sold on Jackal and may be switching.

For the record, I 100% believe Mau is a villager.

[Danny]

Looking more into the night kill choice. I have to believe our wolf did not check in between the lynch and the night kill. In this small a game, there is no way a wolf leaves the trusted players (such as Mau) alive and killing someone who will be a primary suspect the following day. Most likely the wolf had no idea Autumn was going to be lynched and they had a standing pre lynch order.

This fits both Chubby and Jackal as well and would eliminate Mau, Crimson and I. Even take me out if you want, this is is more evidence Crimson is not the wolf. I also don't believe the wolf jumps out with the first vote the following day.