Players getting converted to long snappers

[nilodor]

I've had this come up twice. Once I drafted a talented tight end, the second time a center and after the draft instead of being listed as a TE & C respectively they are listed as LS. If I try and convert them back to their positions they are terrible and retain about 25% of their ratings. I am using the historical files so I know the players are actually TE's and C's and not listed as LS. Any insights on what's going on? Is this a bug? The only thing I could think of would be a weight issue but they are still within the range that I can convert them back to the position they are supposed to have.

[Ben E Lou]

First guess: the game needs to have X number of long snappers per draft file so that positional requirements are met, so it is converting X number of tight ends and centers to long snapper to fulfill that requirement. Maybe a fix is to include long snappers in those files?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Just a thought... did you have a LS signed? When were they converted? In camp? Perhaps if you go to camp without a LS it will move the best long snapper on your roster to the position.

I have noticed "Long Snapping" as a rating for TE & C, but not all the time. Has anybody experimented to see the timing on things like this?

[Ben E Lou]

Oh, to piggyback on MGB there, if you have the AI set to handle the depth charts, it will make some position switches prior to training camp.

[nilodor]

First guess: the game needs to have X number of long snappers per draft file so that positional requirements are met, so it is converting X number of tight ends and centers to long snapper to fulfill that requirement. Maybe a fix is to include long snappers in those files?

This is my guess as well. I'm going to have to test it out.

I did have a LS signed, I handle all of my own depth charts so I don't think that is it. I did notice that both the players had long snapping attributes in addition to their position specific ones, so I'm not sure if those are linked.

[nilodor]

Actually it's a much larger issue than I thought. In the player file you can set someones position to LS, however in the draft files there is no option. I can only assume that players are randomly converted to LS. I don't have the draft file columns infront of me so I'm not sure if there is a long snapping rating (I don't think there is, there's a special teams one). Then basically players would randomly be assigned long snapping ability, like many other attributes, then some of them would randomly be converted to long snappers. It's certainly an issue for the historic leagues, not game breaking but it'd be a pretty big deal in the early years when the league is so watered down to have a talented center, tight end or linebacker converted to long snapper basically destroying all of their value. I've only played a handful of seasons and have already had it happen twice which is pretty annoying.

[MalcPow]

Actually it's a much larger issue than I thought. In the player file you can set someones position to LS, however in the draft files there is no option. I can only assume that players are randomly converted to LS. I don't have the draft file columns infront of me so I'm not sure if there is a long snapping rating (I don't think there is, there's a special teams one). Then basically players would randomly be assigned long snapping ability, like many other attributes, then some of them would randomly be converted to long snappers. It's certainly an issue for the historic leagues, not game breaking but it'd be a pretty big deal in the early years when the league is so watered down to have a talented center, tight end or linebacker converted to long snapper basically destroying all of their value. I've only played a handful of seasons and have already had it happen twice which is pretty annoying.

Just to be clear, you're only seeing this with custom player and draft files that you are loading into the game?

[nilodor]

Just to be clear, you're only seeing this with custom player and draft files that you are loading into the game?

Yes. Although I would assume it would be the same for anyone loading in TCY draft files.

[nilodor]

So an update. I did receive an email from solecistic support. Basically there is no control over which players will get converted to long snappers. From my playthroughs centres that get converted can still be used at centre without being converted from LS. They seem to perform ok and maintain their ratings. Although someone more familiar with the statistics is better perched to make a comment on that.