Werewolf CLXIII-Return of the Werewolf-Day Four Ends Friday 10 PM EST

[Zinto]

After years of hunting down and exterminating werewolves, a village of werewolf hunters returned home. Happy to see their families again and spend their free time doing stuff they loved. Unfortunately there have been a string of suspicious murders that look all too familiar to the trained eye. You thought you had got rid of all the werewolves you were wrong.....

[Zinto]

Basic Werewolf Rules:
1. No editing of posts
2. No quoting of private messages
3. No discussion of the game outside of the thread

Voting:
To vote for someone bold your vote and put it into a separate line

Vote Zinto

To change your vote simply post an unvote and a new vote

Unvote Zinto
Vote Zinto

You may vote nightfall but once you do you cannot change it and you can also not change your vote

Vote Nightfall

You may vote No Lynch

Vote No Lynch

Ties

You do not know what will happen if you tie the vote.

Deadlines:
Lynch: 10 PM
Night Deadline: 10 PM
No votes or night actions marked 10:01 or later will be accepted

Roles
Team Village
Seer-May scan any player of his/her choice every night except on Night 0 and finds out if they are a werewolf.
Hunter-If the hunter is the last villager alive with one werewolf than the village wins

Team Wolf
Two Werewolves
A Sorcerer-Wins with the werewolves but counts as a villager for victory conditions. May scan any player of his/her choice every night except on Night 0 and finds out if they are the seer. Does not know the identity of the wolves.

Victory
The village wins by ridding the world of the last werewolves and the werewolves win by achieving a 1:1 ratio

[Zinto]

Signup List:

1. DaddyTorgo
2. Chief Rum
3. Fontisian-Lynched Day Three-Werewolf
4. Britrock-Lynched Day Two-Sorcerer
5. Claphamsa-Lynched Day Three-Vanilla Villager
6. Autumn
7. The Jackal-Nightkilled Night Three-The Seer
8. Julio Riddols-Lynched Day One-Vanilla Villager
9. Suicane-Night Killed Night One-Vanilla Villager
10. KWhit/Jag-Nightkilled Night Two-Vanilla Villager

[DaddyTorgo]

I'M SO FUCKING IN!

[Chief Rum]

If this is just for newbies (like we talked about in the GM thread), I will sit it out, but if it's for anyone, I'll be in.

[Zinto]

If this is just for newbies (like we talked about in the GM thread), I will sit it out, but if it's for anyone, I'll be in.


Everyone can join. I figure if we get a few games rolling new people will join as we go but we really just need to try and get a game started.

[fontisian]

I'm in.

[britrock88]

In.

[Zinto]

Sweet. We are about half way to the minimum it would take to run a game. I am hoping for more though

[claphamsa]

fontisian was brien of tarth! lol!!!!

that game made more sense once i watched the show...

ill play i guess :) will never be around for deadline...

[Zinto]

Welcome, Clap. I will be sending out PMs to the everyone who has played a game recently later today to try and get a few more people.

[Autumn]

I'm in.

[The Jackal]

Sign me up

[Danny]

Id like to get in a game, but not so good timing. Major restructuring at work and I need to learn an entirely new position along with figuring out to balance a good portion of my old position along with it

[Julio Riddols]

Why not, lets party.

[Zinto]

We only need one more person. One more, one more.

[Suicane75]

Basic is music to my ears. I'm in.

[britrock88]

:party:

[Zinto]

Hooray! Roles will be going out sometime today and day one will be tomorrow.

[KWhit]

Room for one more?

I'll play if so.

[Zinto]

Yep we can make it work

[Zinto]

Signups are still open until I start sending out PMs for roles.

[Zinto]

The rules are updated

[Zinto]

Role PMs are going out

[Zinto]

Vanilla PM:

You are a vanilla villager. After years of fighting werewolves you are excited to be home.

[Zinto]

After years of fighting werewolves our band of heroes returned to their village. They had vanquished the werewolf who had the last case of Sanies Lupinus and finally got to rest. Unfortunately, after the first full moon a farmer and his live stock were slaughtered by what looked to be a very large wolf. It became apparent that you had in fact, not defeated the last werewolf but instead brought it to your home. With your family at risk will you be able to find the last werewolf before it is too late?

Day One Begins

[fontisian]

Hi guys!

Vote: Clap

I am Brienne of Tarth (The extra ne makes the name look distinguished).

[claphamsa]

man, im just some shmuck!

vote fontisian

cuz why not

[fontisian]

Schmuck is yiddish. Yiddish originated in Germany. From the 15th century onwards, werewolf stories were very popular in Germany. Therefore, clap is a werewolf.

(By the way, schmuck literally translates to penis.)

[claphamsa]

Schmuck is yiddish. Yiddish originated in Germany. From the 15th century onwards, werewolf stories were very popular in Germany. Therefore, clap is a werewolf.

(By the way, schmuck literally translates to penis.)

i knew the last part! JCC did some good~!

[Autumn]

Hey, trying to fix something on my computer, but should be around to post more in the morning!

[DaddyTorgo]

Awesome - game on!

[DaddyTorgo]

Schmuck is yiddish. Yiddish originated in Germany. From the 15th century onwards, werewolf stories were very popular in Germany. Therefore, clap is a werewolf.

(By the way, schmuck literally translates to penis.)

This post is golden.

[Autumn]

All right, only ten players. These kind of games are tough, especially with a Sorceror. We have to get it right in one of the first two lynches or else we're really backed against a wall, particularly with no bodyguard.

Just throwing out a random vote at this point.

<b>VOTE THE JACKAL</b>

[Suicane75]

Vote: KWhit

No rhyme or reason, just don't feel like adding a 2nd vote to anyone.

[Zinto]

As of post 35:

Claphamsa 1-Fontisian(27)
Fontisian 1-Claphamsa(28)
The Jackal 1-Autumn(34)
KWhit 1-Suicane(35)

[britrock88]

vote DT

No checking in without voting!

[britrock88]

I have to say... I've been playing over at BGG since we went into hibernation. D1s over there are TRRBL. So it's good to have a nice, light-hearted D1 going here. :)

[claphamsa]

I was reading bitrocks post (the one where he voted) and werewolves of thunder came up on pandora.... very suspicios!

[Chief Rum]

Hey sexy people! At long last werewolf returns.

In order to avoid, britrock's targeting of non-voters, I will...

VOTE BRITROCK

[Chief Rum]

Plus, britrock betrayed us on another forum. Slay the traitor!

[fontisian]

Unvote
Vote Chief Rum

Why do you want to avoid britrock's vote, Chief?

Also, if you've got a problem with britrock playing on one other forum, you don't even want to know how many other forums I've been playing on.

[Zinto]

As of post 42:

Fontisian 1-Claphamsa(28)
The Jackal 1-Autumn(34)
KWhit 1-Suicane(35)
DaddyTorgo 1-Britrock(37)
Britrock 1-Chief Rum(40)
Chief Rum 1-Fontisian

[The Jackal]

VOTE DT

[britrock88]

unvote DT
vote Fontisian

Because Font had reasons! On D1! :p

[fontisian]

Hmm. Trying to save DT, britrock?

/puts on sherlock cap

[Chief Rum]

Unvote
Vote Chief Rum

Why do you want to avoid britrock's vote, Chief?

Also, if you've got a problem with britrock playing on one other forum, you don't even want to know how many other forums I've been playing on.

It's Day One, ya know!

[fontisian]

That's really not an answer.

[britrock88]

Hmm. Trying to save DT, britrock?

/puts on sherlock cap

unvote Font
vote DT

:eek:

[britrock88]

So, we've yet to hear from KWhit and Julio.

[britrock88]

Oh, and DT came by, but didn't vote. Meh.

[britrock88]

Right on top of a new page... seems like high time for a new tally.

As of post 51:

DaddyTorgo 2-Jackal(44), Britrock(49)
Fontisian 1-Claphamsa(28)
The Jackal 1-Autumn(34)
KWhit 1-Suicane(35)
Britrock 1-Chief Rum(40)
Chief Rum 1-Fontisian(41)

[britrock88]

Clap said he won't be around for deadline... that seems worth remember when we start to consolidate in a few hours.

[Zinto]

As of post 53:

Fontisian 1-Claphamsa(28)
The Jackal 1-Autumn(34)
KWhit 1-Suicane(35)
DaddyTorgo 2- Jackal(44), Britrock(49)
ritrock 1-Chief Rum(40)
Chief Rum 1-Fontisian

PS Thanks Brit :)

[Chief Rum]

Clap said he won't be around for deadline... that seems worth remember when we start to consolidate in a few hours.

Well, I won't either, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't target me. Same with clap, IMO.

That said, it does seem like not such a good idea to target someone who might end up being the seer and who is not around to reveal themselves at or near the deadline.

But I get a little edgy when we start handing out excuses to not go after certain players.

[fontisian]

unvote Font
vote DT

:eek:
:popcorn:

[KWhit]

Yo yo.

I'm here. Just a vanilla villager (of course I would say that, right?).

But anyhoo. Here I am.

[Julio Riddols]

SHHHHHH!!!!!

[Julio Riddols]

There are werewolves around.

[Julio Riddols]

Vote DT

[Julio Riddols]

Sorry to be hit and run but I have to entertain a toddler right now. I am playing the part of a character from Rayman Legends, Barbara. We're killing zombies and purple minions. These are not the behaviors of a wolf.

[fontisian]

I am so confused.

[fontisian]

But happy enough to do this:

Unvote
Vote Julio Riddols

[DaddyTorgo]

Whoops - need to get back into the habit of checking the WW forum.

Got a couple hours here, then headed out for a class at the gym until 9pm.

Not a fan of votes on me just because I popped around last night, but couldn't vote, since the game hadn't officially started I don't think.

Seems like something the wolves would hope folks overlook as they try to knock off a couple villagers early in a small game.

VOTE BRITROCK

[fontisian]

DT: Why are you voting for Britrock over Jackal and Julio?

[Chief Rum]

Okay, I am headed out, so my vote will have to stay here.

[fontisian]

We're two hours out from deadline. Anyone around?

[Autumn]

<b>unvote the jackal
vote chief rum</b>

[Autumn]

For tickling my wolf fancy.

[The Jackal]

I should be around, though the power in my building is being weird.

[fontisian]

Autumn: Do you have any reasoning?

[Zinto]

As of post 71:

Fontisian 1-Claphamsa(28)
KWhit 1-Suicane(35)
DaddyTorgo 2- Jackal(44), Britrock(49), Julio(60)
Britrock 1-Chief Rum(40), DaddyTorgo(64)
Julio 1-Font(63)
Chief Rum 1-Autumn(68)

[Autumn]

I thought his post about Clap's deadline was something a wolf might write. That's all.

Unfortunately my new med is making me very tired and I've got to crash. I'll try to do better tomorrow.

[fontisian]

:/

I really don't like the way you only attacked Chief after he left for the day, when that post was made hours ago.

[claphamsa]

i am theoretically here... but i saw something... i need to unsee, so im drinking black Russians heavily.

psa/ ENSURE YOUR CATS ARE DEWORMED prior to adoption!

[Zinto]

30 minutes till deadline!

[britrock88]

DT: Why are you voting for Britrock over Jackal and Julio?

I don't mean to prevent DT from answering the question himself. However, I think he might have chosen me because I mentioned what disturbed him--that he had checked in and not voted--when I voted for him. But remember (!), this is D1, and I'm fooling around.

[DaddyTorgo]

Yes - this is true britrock - exactly that.


Anyways - here I am...home from my BJJ class.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'd very much not like to be voted out on D1 if that helps sway anyone's vote.

[fontisian]

britrock and DT: Well yeah, but Jackal and Julio bandwagoned without even stating any reasoning.

The level of activity today has been kind of depressing.

[fontisian]

I'd very much not like to be voted out on D1 if that helps sway anyone's vote.
My vote might be sway if you at least told me what you thought of Jackal and Julio's votes.

[britrock88]

I'm a little worried about what today's voting will offer us in the way of information, given that there are only 3 of us here at present.

[britrock88]

DT, I'm inclined to keep you alive because you showed up... have any inklings on Jackal/Julio?

[DaddyTorgo]

I just got home - I note that Julio's vote had nothing behind it, kind of just a hit-and-run from what I can see.

That's fishy to me. I think Jackel's vote for me was more understandable as a D1 type of vote, but I figured the 2nd or 3rd on me could be a wolf trying to get a bandwagon going. I'm fine with a move to Julio in that regard - if we do it QUICK.

[fontisian]

I agree with brit. I don't want to lynch the only people who are actually here. I would lynch Autumn, but that feels really hypocritical.

[fontisian]

I'm good with lynching Julio.

[britrock88]

If I see you move, DT, I'm right behind you. I'm worried about tie possibilities for both of us.

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE BRITROCK
VOTE JULIO

[britrock88]

unvote DT
vote Julio

[Zinto]

Deadline-Results won't be up for around twenty minutes just as an FYI.

[Zinto]

Sorry about that results incoming.

[Zinto]

Deadline Results:
Fontisian 1-Claphamsa(28)
KWhit 1-Suicane(35)
DaddyTorgo 2- Jackal(44), Julio(60)
Britrock 1-Chief Rum(40)
Julio 3-Font(63), DaddyTorgo(88), Britrock(89)
Chief Rum 1-Autumn(68)

[Zinto]

The day after you found the farmer it is decided after examining the remains that there must be a werewolf that has snuck itself inside the group of heroes. After a little debate arguing, it became clear that DaddyTorgo or Julio must be the culprit. In fact some even claim they saw a tuft of hair suspiciously growing out of Julio's ears. With that nugget of information reaching Britrock's ears he removes his axe and plunges it into Julio's chest.

Unfortunately, one month later on the full moon another person was torn apart by what looked to be a giant wolf. This time it was one of the members of the group Suicane. It seems the werewolf is trying to send you a message.

Lynch: Julio was a vanilla villager

Nightkill: Suicane was a vanilla villager.

[Zinto]

Day Two Begins

[DaddyTorgo]

Damn

[britrock88]

Yikes. No seer or hunter in the pair, at least.

[Julio Riddols]

MY SON WILL REGRET THIS WHEN HE GROWS UP.

[claphamsa]

so the ones around and talking at deadline were DT Bitrock, and Fontsian....Im betting at least one is a wolf.

[The Jackal]

Sorry that I missed the deadline last night.

VOTE DT

[Autumn]

All right, I am awake again. Let's try this. It would be natural to look at Font, for me, given that she was looking suspiciously at me. But I'm not surprised someone found my vote suspicious, so that doesn't sway me one way or the other there. The kill on Suicane is interesting, I'll look and see if there were any posts that might have brought it about, but I'm guessing it's one of those kills meant to make us confused.

[Autumn]

All right, Suicane basically posted nothing, so I think the wolves were probably just hoping to get lucky, and worse case scenario, not add any information to the village.

[claphamsa]

wait, font is a chick?

[fontisian]

so the ones around and talking at deadline were DT Bitrock, and Fontsian....Im betting at least one is a wolf.
I see the logic. Which one of us do you think is a wolf?

FYI: Font is an 18 year old female college student from Virginia, who enjoys speaking in the third person.

Sorry that I missed the deadline last night.

VOTE DT
This is the second time you've voted for DT without giving any reasoning. Care to explain why?

Autumn's refusal to OMGUS actually makes me feel a bit better about him.

[claphamsa]

OMGUS?

if i was guess it would be bitrock, but ill admit its just a guess :)

woo VA! now you need to move north!

[DaddyTorgo]

Yeah - I think one of the 3 on me at one point yesterday was a wolf.

Seems odd for Jackal to do it twice without explanation knowing that'd draw attention. I'm thinking britrock now.

I'm no wolf that's for sure.

[DaddyTorgo]

We have 3 vanilla villagers, 2 roled villagers, 1 sorcerer, and 2 wolves left, right?

[The Jackal]

I mean, I didn't really have a reason behind my D1 vote - pretty much random.

After seeing the movement away from him yesterday, I figured I'd see what might happen with him as a candidate again today.

[britrock88]

Yeah - I think one of the 3 on me at one point yesterday was a wolf.

Seems odd for Jackal to do it twice without explanation knowing that'd draw attention. I'm thinking britrock now.

I'm no wolf that's for sure.

And, in fairness, I also voted you twice, though both votes were yesterday.

[britrock88]

FYI: Font is an 18 year old female college student from Virginia, who enjoys speaking in the third person.

You're checking so many boxes for this forum. :lol:

I concur with your reads in the rest of this post, too.

[britrock88]

JAG! I see you down there, not playing... :(

[Zinto]

As of post 110:

DaddyTorgo 1-Jackal(99)

[britrock88]

D1... hope we can nab a baddy today and have this come in handy tomorrow.

Time Voter Type Votee Tally
17:29 fontisian vote claphamsa 1
18:01 claphamsa vote fontisian 1
08:36 Autumn vote The Jackal 1
09:53 Suicane75 vote KWhit 1
10:19 britrock88 vote DaddyTorgo 1
11:17 Chief Rum vote britrock88 1
11:34 fontisian unvote claphamsa 0
vote Chief Rum 1
12:02 The Jackal vote DaddyTorgo 2
12:05 britrock88 unvote DaddyTorgo 1
vote fontisian 2
14:14 britrock88 unvote fontisian 1
vote DaddyTorgo 2
16:00 Julio Riddols vote DaddyTorgo 3
16:07 fontisian unvote Chief Rum 0
vote Julio Riddols 1
16:39 DaddyTorgo vote britrock88 2
18:52 Autumn unvote The Jackal 0
vote Chief Rum 1
20:53 DaddyTorgo unvote britrock88 1
vote Julio Riddols 2
20:53 britrock88 unvote DaddyTorgo 2
vote Julio Riddols 3

[britrock88]

Hmm... thinking numbers. We're at 6-2 for parity and 5-3 for alignment.

[britrock88]

A mislynch today would require the village to figure out where to vote unanimously tomorrow and hope the tie doesn't screw us. The wolves could NK their sorc, potentially, so that'd be a help.

[britrock88]

Thinking about it, and I have precious little idea about where to go for the lynch today.

[britrock88]

Summon KWhit to start? We need village voices.

Vote KWhit

[The Jackal]

Not going to be able to contribute as much as I'd like over the next day or two - travel industry + big storms = busy busy.

But I really don't have much to add at the moment anyways -we're definitely going to need some luck. I don't see a compelling reason to move off DT - he's not exactly pinging me one way or the other, but it would lend clarity to D1 at the very least.

[DaddyTorgo]

Hmm... thinking numbers. We're at 6-2 for parity and 5-3 for alignment.

Nice repost of my thoughts above.

[DaddyTorgo]

Not going to be able to contribute as much as I'd like over the next day or two - travel industry + big storms = busy busy.

But I really don't have much to add at the moment anyways -we're definitely going to need some luck. I don't see a compelling reason to move off DT - he's not exactly pinging me one way or the other, but it would lend clarity to D1 at the very least.

My theory that one of the three of you on me is a wolf was a wolf is IMO more solid. Hell - I'm even thinking it's probably not you since your D1 vote was random, but was more likely to be the #2 or #3 guy to try to get momentum going towards me.

[Autumn]

Well, we need some options. I do hope Kwhit shows up, but for now I'll go back to Chief.

<b>VOTE CHIEF RUM</b>

[Chief Rum]

Why is no one else talking about the fact we had a two vote pile on on Julio at the end, resulting in the lynch of a good guy?

[Chief Rum]

Well, we need some options. I do hope Kwhit shows up, but for now I'll go back to Chief.

<b>VOTE CHIEF RUM</b>

Is there a compelling reason for your vote?

[fontisian]

OMGUS?

if i was guess it would be bitrock, but ill admit its just a guess :)

woo VA! now you need to move north!
OMGUS means Oh My God, You Suck (for voting me).

I'm good here. It's already cold enough outside.

Jackal: Fair enough. Do you have any scum suspects?

You're checking so many boxes for this forum. :lol:

I concur with your reads in the rest of this post, too.
?
What reads? I gave one read (that Autumn looks a little more towny).

My theory that one of the three of you on me is a wolf was a wolf is IMO more solid. Hell - I'm even thinking it's probably not you since your D1 vote was random, but was more likely to be the #2 or #3 guy to try to get momentum going towards me.
You realize that number 3 was Julio, right? That really only leaves britrock. Do you think he's scum?

[fontisian]

Why is no one else talking about the fact we had a two vote pile on on Julio at the end, resulting in the lynch of a good guy?
Three votes, if you count me. It might have happened because we were the only ones around.

But if you want to talk about it, you could share your thoughts right now.

[DaddyTorgo]

OMGUS means Oh My God, You Suck (for voting me).

I'm good here. It's already cold enough outside.

Jackal: Fair enough. Do you have any scum suspects?


?
What reads? I gave one read (that Autumn looks a little more towny).


You realize that number 3 was Julio, right? That really only leaves britrock. Do you think he's scum?

That's where I'm leaning today, yes.

VOTE BRITROCK

[Chief Rum]

Three votes, if you count me. It might have happened because we were the only ones around.

But if you want to talk about it, you could share your thoughts right now.

While you certainly should not get a pass, you placed your vote on Julio some five hours before the deadline. DT and brit did their little switcharoo with 7 minutes to go.

[Chief Rum]

I am a little uncomfortably because DT has now voted for britrock (his supposed conspirator in the vote switch), but then for DT, the Julio vote is self-defense vote as well. While DT is not a comfortable villager in my mind, he is on slightly more solid ground than britrock.

So I will return to my britrock pick from yesterday.

VOTE BRITROCK

[britrock88]

?
What reads? I gave one read (that Autumn looks a little more towny).

Well, not multiple reads, I guess. But you had acknowledged clap's logic in thinking one of you/me/DT is a wolf due to our deadline presence, and you had question Jackal for voting DT twice without explaining much. I was with you on those points, too.

[britrock88]

2 votes for me, 1 for DT, 1 for CR, 1 for KWhit? Hrmph.

[The Jackal]

Why is no one else talking about the fact we had a two vote pile on on Julio at the end, resulting in the lynch of a good guy?

In essence it was a move away from DT, so the question begs - do we think it was wolf desperation? Not unheard of in a small game for one wolf to help the other on D1.

I don't feel like the voting smacked of desperation - there was so little going on near deadline that it makes it kind of hard to analyze.

I'm going to comb through posts to see if anything sounded funny.

[claphamsa]

VOTE BRITROCK

said he seemed the most suspicious... and i need to flee the storm

[Zinto]

As of post 131:

DaddyTorgo 1-Jackal(99)
KWhit 1-Britrock(116)
Chief Rum 1-Autumn(120)
Britrock 3-DaddyTorgo(125), Chief Rum(127), Claphamsa(131)

[JAG]

JAG! I see you down there, not playing... :(

I'm waiting for a super complicated game that makes people talk a lot about the rules and strategy, and where afterwards I hate you (maybe not necessarily the last one).

[DaddyTorgo]

I ought to be around from now till deadline with just a brief interruption to travel home, so I'm happy to discuss yesterday/today/whatever.

[Chief Rum]

It appears that conversation has come to a standstill.

[Zinto]

Yawn

[DaddyTorgo]

Booo - need more conversation!!!

[fontisian]

Bah, sorry. I came down with a cold.

[Autumn]

No compelling reason, Chief, no. But I certainly don't think so poorly of Brit that I think he needs to be piled on at this moment. The worst thing to do in such a small game is decide on a victim too early.

[DaddyTorgo]

The worst thing to do in such a small game is decide on a victim too early.

This is true.

[The Jackal]

In re-reading the thread, nothing stuck out particularly, but some random thoughts:

Brit and font have posted a lot, but aside from that it's pretty quiet.

I feel good about Autumn but can't get a read on CR, though that's not uncommon.

KWhit has barely posted - makes it tough to think anything about him.

If one of or both of DT/brit aren't wolves for me it would mostly be a stab in the dark at this point. I feel okay with where my vote is.

[Autumn]

We must bemissing some votes still, right?

[Zinto]

One hour until deadline, make sure you get your night actions in!

[Zinto]

Also, I PMed KWhit and I will probably look to replace him tomorrow if he doesn't show up tonight.

[Chief Rum]

We must bemissing some votes still, right?

KWhit's, as noted. And surprisingly, font hasn't vote. Maybe she is holding it for deadline?

[fontisian]

Huh, I'm not voting. Ugh, my head's feeling very fuzzy. Probably the cold.

I guess I'm ok with a britrock lynch? I don't really have any gut feelings. I think I had some earlier, but I was stupid and didn't write them down.

[Autumn]

I'll stay where I am for the moment then. I expect the vote will move off of Kwhit, and I guess I feel better about a Chief vote than a DT vote at the moment. i don't see any reason to pile on Brit.

[fontisian]

Wait, I remember it now! Remember this exchange:
vote DT

No checking in without voting!
VOTE DT
unvote DT
vote Fontisian

Because Font had reasons! On D1! :p
Britrock unvoted from DT the moment another person joined him on the wagon. I thought that was kind of weird at the time, but add in this:

I don't mean to prevent DT from answering the question himself. However, I think he might have chosen me because I mentioned what disturbed him--that he had checked in and not voted--when I voted for him. But remember (!), this is D1, and I'm fooling around.

and the the end of the day shenangins, and the only reason they can't scum together is if it's just too obvious.

Vote: britrock

[DaddyTorgo]

Font - you saying that makes you think Jackal and brit are the wolves?

Just trying to be clear of what your "read" on that was. No rush - I understand you don't feel well.

[fontisian]

You and brit. Did you just try to set up a mislynch on Jackal after brit flips scum?

[DaddyTorgo]

You and brit. Did you just try to set up a mislynch on Jackal after brit flips scum?

Definitely not.

I'm not a wolf. 100% guarantee you of that.

My vote's not moving. Only reason it moved yesterday was (a) self defense, AND (b) because the other option was equally fishy in the "there must be a wolf on me" sense.

[Zinto]

As of post 151:

DaddyTorgo 1-Jackal(99)
KWhit 1-Britrock(116)
Chief Rum 1-Autumn(120)
Britrock 4-DaddyTorgo(125), Chief Rum(127), Claphamsa(131), Font(148)

[Zinto]

Jag has replaced KWhit. Please give him a warm welcome!

[DaddyTorgo]

WELCOME JAG!

[fontisian]

Hi JAG!

[JAG]

Morbidly hoping I get NK'ed to set a record for shortest time ever in a WW game.

[JAG]

Only up to beginning of D2, but feel ok about DT /= wolf, brit puts down some risky votes if he's a wolf.

[JAG]

No vote, not really going to matter with the runaway. Not thinking this is a good lynch though.

[Zinto]

Deadline

[Zinto]

Final Day Two Vote Tally:

DaddyTorgo 1-Jackal(99)
KWhit 1-Britrock(116)
Chief Rum 1-Autumn(120)
Britrock 4-DaddyTorgo(125), Chief Rum(127), Claphamsa(131), Font(148)

[Zinto]

After some mild debate and some of the members of the werewolves slayers voting it is decided that Britrock is behind Suicane's death. In fact DaddyTorgo reminds everyone of how Britrock and Suicane often bickered back and forth during your travels. "Who else would target Suicane first?" he asked everyone. And with that the consensus is made and this time it is Fontisian who is tasked with the execution of the accused. Everyone is shocked as Britrock's lifeless body transforms into someone elses before each of your eyes. It seems that some sort of dark magic had tricked you into thinking that your friend Britrock was still alive. Instead some kind of magician or sorcerer laid at your feet now.

Britrock was the sorcerer.

[DaddyTorgo]

Well in some sense that's a plus, given that the sorcerer could find and out the seer.

[DaddyTorgo]

Although of course they did count for us.

Typically in bigger games I'm all in favor of finding the traitor-role early, but in a small game like this I guess it's probably not as advantageous.

[Zinto]

Now believing that these werewolf attacks were actually just the sorcerer using foul magic life goes on as normal. Unfortunately tragedy strikes once again on the night of the full moon, and you awake to find the remains of Jag torn up just like the farmers and Suicane. It seems that everyone had just wanted to hope that this nightmare was over. Unfortunately, it seems like it has just started.

Jag/KWhit was a vanilla villager.

Day Three Begins

[The Jackal]

VOTE CR

[The Jackal]

Would like to hear what he has to say

[fontisian]

Good enough for me.

Vote: DaddyTorgo

[JAG]

Morbidly hoping I get NK'ed to set a record for shortest time ever in a WW game.

Record attained, 14 minutes of life!

Good luck village.

[The Jackal]

unvote cr
[b]vote font[/b

[DaddyTorgo]

Good enough for me.

Vote: DaddyTorgo

:confused:

[The Jackal]

fudge

[The Jackal]

unvote cr
vote font

[fontisian]

It's possible that scum intended to shoot KWhit, but it's far more likely that they switched the kill to JAG when he subbed in. Only who were around could have done that. We're not lynching outside of me, DT and Jackal toDay.

[DaddyTorgo]

It's possible that scum intended to shoot KWhit, but it's far more likely that they switched the kill to JAG when he subbed in. Only who were around could have done that. We're not lynching outside of me, DT and Jackal toDay.

Switching the kill to a replacement is silly. It always takes replacements longer to catch up to what's going on and it's real tough to get a good read on the game as a replacement. Also, if they were seer-hunting a KWhit seer would be a non-worry as he wouldn't have made any of his scans so they'd be better off going after somebody who'd been active.

[fontisian]

That's ... actually a fair point. Still, there isn't exactly much to catch up on.

Why do you think JAG was killed, then?

[DaddyTorgo]

That's ... actually a fair point. Still, there isn't exactly much to catch up on.

Why do you think JAG was killed, then?

I have no idea. Misdirection play is the best thought I can come up with.

I was a wolf there is a 0.0% chance I'd allow a NK on KWhit/JAG at this point. I'd pick someone like CR or Autumn who had checked in and voted but was more UTR, because you figure someone like me/you is going to draw attention and votes over the next couple days anyways as a result of leading the discussion.

[fontisian]

Unvote

DT: I disagree with you but I think you believe what you're saying. I'll sleep on it.

[DaddyTorgo]

And really, barring a seer striking lucky at this point they're...one more missed lynch away from victory in a best-case scenario.

If the seer can (ideally) finger one wolf, or even can provide a COT of 3 people (them plus two villagers) then we're at the point they ought to come out by my thinking, right? Or is my math off?

[claphamsa]

wow.... that fucking sucks.

but why did bitrock not reveal who he scanned....

[DaddyTorgo]

wow.... that fucking sucks.

but why did bitrock not reveal who he scanned....

sorcerer was the traitor/collaborator role not the seer.

[claphamsa]

well.... WOO me for knowing he was bad!

[claphamsa]

/me goes to read the rules

[DaddyTorgo]

Only one here...la di da

[DaddyTorgo]

/takes potshots off the village walls at the wolves in the woods, trying to keep them at bay

[DaddyTorgo]

I could use some help here everyone!

[claphamsa]

shooting at walls?

[DaddyTorgo]

No - shooting from the walls...at the wolves in the woods. They're allied with the werewolves we've got hiding here in the village...I'm trying to drive them off.

[Chief Rum]

VOTE CR


Would like to hear what he has to say


What would you like to know?

[Lathum]

glad this got going...

[Zinto]

As of post 189:

Fontisian 1-Jackal(172)

[claphamsa]

so the first night Font voted with Bit, and it looked suspicious to me.... and bit was bad!

vote fontisian

[Autumn]

Jackal, why the quick vote on Chief, and why the switch to Font?

[britrock88]

I'm waiting for a super complicated game that makes people talk a lot about the rules and strategy, and where afterwards I hate you (maybe not necessarily the last one).

;)

Now believing that these werewolf attacks were actually just the sorcerer using foul magic life goes on as normal. Unfortunately tragedy strikes once again on the night of the full moon, and you awake to find the remains of Jag torn up just like the farmers and Suicane. It seems that everyone had just wanted to hope that this nightmare was over. Unfortunately, it seems like it has just started.

Jag/KWhit was a vanilla villager.

Day Three Begins

:p

Carry on. :)

[Autumn]

And really, barring a seer striking lucky at this point they're...one more missed lynch away from victory in a best-case scenario.

If the seer can (ideally) finger one wolf, or even can provide a COT of 3 people (them plus two villagers) then we're at the point they ought to come out by my thinking, right? Or is my math off?

I believe you're right. I can't see any reason for the seer to keep quiet at this stage unless they have been scanning people who died. In that case, might as well keep quiet as we're unlikely to believe you anyway.

[DaddyTorgo]

I believe you're right. I can't see any reason for the seer to keep quiet at this stage unless they have been scanning people who died. In that case, might as well keep quiet as we're unlikely to believe you anyway.

Actually I think even if they've been scanning people who are dead at least if they out themselves we can at least either put them on a "good" list or it will force a wolf counter-reveal and we'll have a 50/50 shot.

[Autumn]

<b>VOTE CHIEF RUM</b>

[Autumn]

Third time's a charm?

[Chief Rum]

No compelling reason, Chief, no. But I certainly don't think so poorly of Brit that I think he needs to be piled on at this moment. The worst thing to do in such a small game is decide on a victim too early.

Do you have a compelling reason now or is this just some weird fixation?

[Autumn]

Well, so far I haven't voted for a villager, so my record is looking better and better.

I don't have a compelling reason, just my best read at the moment.

[Chief Rum]

Well, so far I haven't voted for a villager, so my record is looking better and better.

I don't have a compelling reason, just my best read at the moment.

Well, actually you have, just it hasn't been proven to you just yet.

[The Jackal]

Sorry guys - storms = so busy at work.

[The Jackal]

I voted CR because I wanted to try to get him talking, providing analysis, etc

But the "good enough for me" and timing of font's vote so quickly into the day just struck me in the wrong way, like trying to start a run on someone and/or discouraging conversation with a target that we don't have a clear-cut case on.

[Chief Rum]

The fontisian-DT-britrock voting from Day One (the late switch) still seems suspicious to me, and it turns out brit was the sorcerer. But per the rules, the sorcerer does not know the identities of the wolves. And clearly from their nightkill choice, the wolves did not know britrock was the sorcerer.

So I am moving away from that direction of thinking. But that led me to consider the one person getting very little talk here: claphamsa. He feels a little under the radar for me, which is unusual, IMO.

Autumn and The Jackal come off as villagerish to me, and I am not interested in dog piling on font or in joining with her on DT. Let's see if this gets any traction.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[fontisian]

so the first night Font voted with Bit, and it looked suspicious to me.... and bit was bad!

vote fontisian
I thought you said you were reading the rules clap. :/

Sorry, I definitely was not thinking clearly last night.

Thoughts: 1.The JAG kill doesn't make sense, but considering the similarity to the Suicane kill, it doesn't mean that there has to be scum among DT and Jackal.

2.We're at mylo and the seer should claim if they have a guilty check or if someone they checked as town is under fire.

3. I don't understand what Autumn is doing. It feels unlike him, but we haven't played in long enough that I may just not remember what a normal Autumn feel like. Still, the idea that he hasn't voted for town only holds true because he has abstained from all wagons.

[DaddyTorgo]

Going to follow Chief's lead for now.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[fontisian]

I voted CR because I wanted to try to get him talking, providing analysis, etc

But the "good enough for me" and timing of font's vote so quickly into the day just struck me in the wrong way, like trying to start a run on someone and/or discouraging conversation with a target that we don't have a clear-cut case on.
I think the "good enough for me" was refering the fact that brit flipped sorcerer? He wasn't a wolf, sure, but that was still much better than lynching a townie.

I'm fairly certain I thought it was clear cut at the time. Now, I can see that I was oversimplifying the issue.

[The Jackal]

There's six of us left, right? That means if we miss on the lynch and the wolves put through a NK the game is over

[DaddyTorgo]

There's six of us left, right? That means if we miss on the lynch and the wolves put through a NK the game is over

Yes. Hence why Autumn and I pointed out that it probably makes sense for the seer to come forward.

IMO - worst case scenario, even if they've only scanned dead people they'll either put themselves on a "safe" list or force a counter-reveal by a wolf in which case we'll have a 50/50 shot instead of the 33% shot we have right now.

[mauchow]

Shoot forgot to sign up. Oh well my available time has been sporadic with work.

[Chief Rum]

There's six of us left, right? That means if we miss on the lynch and the wolves put through a NK the game is over

How does that work with the Hunter? I am not so sure it is game over if we lynch the wrong person tonight.

That said, I agree, I think the seer should come forward.

[claphamsa]

The fontisian-DT-britrock voting from Day One (the late switch) still seems suspicious to me, and it turns out brit was the sorcerer. But per the rules, the sorcerer does not know the identities of the wolves. And clearly from their nightkill choice, the wolves did not know britrock was the sorcerer.

So I am moving away from that direction of thinking. But that led me to consider the one person getting very little talk here: claphamsa. He feels a little under the radar for me, which is unusual, IMO.

Autumn and The Jackal come off as villagerish to me, and I am not interested in dog piling on font or in joining with her on DT. Let's see if this gets any traction.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

i could go back to the good old days of incoherent rage if you like :)

[Chief Rum]

i could go back to the good old days of incoherent rage if you like :)

Could you please? Thanks. :D

[fontisian]

Not happy with the clap lynch.

Vote: Autumn
Do something.

[Autumn]

Vote count? We're like 2-2-2 or something aren't we?

[Autumn]

Well, until that moment I guess.

Why don't you like a Clap vote, Font?

[fontisian]

Gut mostly. His Day 1 and Day 2 stuff read like town. I would vote for him if the only other option was a lynch on myself, but short of that, I want to look elsewhere.

2-2-1-1, I think.

[DaddyTorgo]

The lack of a seer reveal is nuts. Basic math people.

[claphamsa]

can we get a vote count?

[claphamsa]

wait, do we have another 6 days? so confused

[Zinto]

Fontisian 2-Jackal(172), clap(191)
Clap 2-Chief(203), DaddyTorgo(205)
Autumn 1-Font(213)
Chief Rum 1-Autmn(196)

[Zinto]

wait, do we have another 6 days? so confused

No I just forgot to change the thread name, we have about 15 minutes

[fontisian]

Anyone feel like switching to Autumn with me?

[Autumn]

<b>Unvote chief rum
Vote fontisian</b>

[Autumn]

I feel worse about font than clap.

[claphamsa]

im feeling good about lynching Font! dunno why....

[fontisian]

Clap: Since you're around, would you mind answering my question?

[fontisian]

Ah, it wasn't a question. Never mind then.

Clap: Your logic doesn't make sense because scum wouldn't have known that brit was a sorcerer.

[claphamsa]

would l like to switch to autumn? cuz i think you are a wolf

[claphamsa]

Ah, it wasn't a question. Never mind then.

Clap: Your logic doesn't make sense because scum wouldn't have known that brit was a sorcerer.

i tend to fail at logic :)

[fontisian]

Anyone feel like switching to Autumn with me?
I'll take that as a no one.

Unvote
Vote: Clap

[claphamsa]

so we have a 3 3 tie?

[fontisian]

No, fuck this.

Unvote
Vote: Autumn

Clap, DT and Chief, please join me. Like hell a town Autumn would have put us at a tie and then disappeared.

[Chief Rum]

Actually Autumn put you ahead and you tied it (before your vote switch)

[fontisian]

Guys, three minutes left. Come on!

[Autumn]

I did not put us at a tie.

[fontisian]

Actually Autumn put you ahead and you tied it (before your vote switch)
As he knew I would. Obviously.

Switch your vote.

[fontisian]

I did not put us at a tie.

What do you call putting us at 2-3 when my vote is not on a main wagon?

[Autumn]

Voting for who I think is a wolf.

[fontisian]

Damn it, guys.

Unvote
Vote: Clap

[Chief Rum]

I am on clap. Me switching my vote does no good. Besides I still think clap is the right vote.

[Chief Rum]

What happens in case of a tie?

[claphamsa]

but im not a wolf... font is

[fontisian]

It does when Autumn is more likely to be a wolf than clap!

[claphamsa]

ugh, im sure we all die now.

[claphamsa]

if there is a double kill, i say CR is the second wolf... once i come up inocent

[fontisian]

Nah, Chief is likely town. If clap flips scum, lynch Autumn. If clap isn't scum, whelp...

[Chief Rum]

Honestly I don't want a voucher from either of you guys. Maybe if we're lucky we have both wolves.

[Zinto]

Deadline Results

Fontisian 3-Jackal(172), clap(191), Autumn(223)
Clap 3-Chief(203), DaddyTorgo(205), Font(239)

[Autumn]

This should be good.

[fontisian]

No game is complete without a tie, and some moderator retribution.