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loregnum
05-15-2014, 04:01 PM
The whole QB/passing part of this game is IMO a massive step back from the last FOF. Jim has commented on his apparent disdain for modern NFL passing and it shows in this game with lousy passing stats almost league wide season after season. To go with that there are hardly any good to great QBs (rated over 50) outside of the current top real guys. Some can say this is realistic but it isn't. I've got two single player leagues going and one is 9 seasons and the other is over ten and I haven yet to see a stud QB be drafted which just adds to the 1950s like passing performances. Please show me where in the NFL there isn't a great QB drafted in a span like that. These leagues will soon be full of max 40 or 45 rated QBs. How is that realistic?

I was really excited when I heard this game was being made but I am quite disappointed with it. To go with the lousy passing there are lousy kickers, boosted pick 6 figures and AI controlled teams cheat when it comes to restructuring contracts as seemingly EVERY SINGLE player on an AI controlled team will restructure and take the base minimum and have all their previous base amounts turned into a signing bonus thereby letting every team get out of temporary cap hell and keep pushing the salaries off into the future only to probably get away with paying the final bill when the player retires. Yes, I know players in real life do this but not EVERY SINGLE WELL PAID PLAYER.

I have seen a team in one of my leagues somehow free up over 40 mil in cap space by doing this and go from being incredibly over the cap to being one of the best teams with space. Show me where this happens in the real NFL.

The coach draft is a poor idea to me and there are just many other issues that I don't care for. I don't "suck at the game" as I am making the playoffs each year so that isn't my complaint. It's stuff that isn't realistic and is a step back from the excellent FOF 2007.

I see that the OOTP guys are making a football sim next year and I sure hope it will be great and be what I hoped FOF 7 was going to be.

Hammer
05-15-2014, 04:44 PM
Perhaps some valid points, but I think what Jim has done has made the game much, much better. Much more challenging and therefore enjoyable. But then I share his disdain for modern NFL passing, its not football to me.

molson
05-15-2014, 07:54 PM
It definitely plays different than the modern NFL, but I don't mind that at all.

What does concern me is the lack of game-generated top-level QBs. I'm 7 seasons into my game, and only 4 new, game-generated QBs have higher than a 50 future potential.

Solecismic
05-15-2014, 10:34 PM
I don't want to tell a customer he's wrong, because if a customer isn't getting as much enjoyment as he had hoped, I'm listening rather than reacting.

But I do want to correct what I think is an unfair characterization of my decision process. This is the item on my blog where I discussed my decision to center on the late '00s rather than 2013 with the latest release. Not the 1950s, nor is there disdain for the modern game.

Football Frontier » Blog Archive » The Challenges of Pigskin Simulation in a Bull Market (http://www.solecismic.com/frontierblog/?p=668)

I think commenting is closed now because I have an anti-spam setting that closes comments ten days after an item is posted.

Also, AI teams aren't cheating. They heavily use the cap-out rule, which is available to human GMs. When players retire, there is a cap hit from using this approach. You do see a lot of this in the NFL. Why wouldn't a player accept cash up-front for the upcoming season, if nothing else changes?

cartman
05-16-2014, 08:06 AM
I have seen a team in one of my leagues somehow free up over 40 mil in cap space by doing this and go from being incredibly over the cap to being one of the best teams with space. Show me where this happens in the real NFL.


The Cowboys did this very thing in the offseason. After the Super Bowl, they were projected to be $20-25 million over the cap. They made some cuts, restructured some contracts, and are now sitting with $12-15 million in cap space available.

Firefly
05-16-2014, 09:25 AM
Man, that cap-out strategy will blow in your face like a nuclear bomb. If you think it's a cool idea you're in for a nasty awakening.

Also, I'm not seeing that lack of great QBs. My own QB in his first season in FOF7 had the best season of his career and another guy passed for 5400 yards. That's not too bad, is it!